Roald Dahl books censored: 'You should be ASHAMED' - David Starkey clashes with Rebecca Reid
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David Starkey is totally correct! This woman doesn't realise how utterly ridiculous most of her arguments were. Kids are mollycoddled too much these days, emotionally stunted and unable in a lot of cases to deal with life.
All her arguments were either wrong or just plain lies. The most notable one is that she accused Roald Dahl of saying that ugly people are all bad and beautiful people are all good. That is an absolutely outrageous misrepresentation of what Mr Dahl said - in fact, he said quite the opposite in The Twits - he said that it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, if you have a good heart then this will shine out and make you look lovely! So Ms Reid is, with all due respect, a foolish woman who has been indoctrinated by foolish people.
Precisely - she evidently wants to raise naive adults who cannot think for themselves because 'Mummy' has controlled their every waking moment, and even their minds, since birth. Her children certainly won't be the better for it.
@@Scripture-Man well said she is a typical brainwashed fruitcake a example of left wing education
@@Scripture-Man Rebecca Reid an example of filling quotas in education
Go to America where everything is sugar-coated. You don't adopt, you 're-home; ' you don't talk to someone, you 'share' with them; you don't convert anything, you 're-purpose' it; an illegal alien is 'undocumented;' a connection is a 'nexus;' a janitor is a 'sanitary engineer;' someone who is crippled was first 'handy-able' but at last count was 'physically disadvantaged;' the list goes on and on, becoming more and more delusional and ridiculous as time passes.
If Dahl's books are so 'bad' how did those of us that read, unsupervised ever survive !?!
This woke nonsense has to stop.
Her agreement has no logic.
You know you can still freely buy the original right? It's not been taken off the shelves, they've just made a new edition...it really is nothing to get worked up into hysterics about...
@@michaelcoward1902 thin end of a wedge.
Coward by name, coward by nature.
@@michaelcoward1902we can be worked up by the intention behind censoring children's books, with or without your permission thanks!
God Bless David Starkey. A true British original and a national treasure.
I mainly agree with him, but what he said about the Quran is completely wrong. What he described is in the Bible but not in the Quran
@@mssami1664 go and read willy wonka book
@@mssami1664Read verse 34 Surat Al Nisa. It teaches husband s can lightly hit their wives if they suspect high handedness from their wives.
@@belledecaucase go
read willy wonka book ease ur brain
Unless you are unquaxed. He doesn't like that sort of person.
I read Roald Dahl when I was a kid. Devoured it,every book over and over again. I'm not a racist,I'm not nasty,I'm not a phobe of any sort. I just thank god I grew up then and not now.
Even If you were a racist, nasty, phobe, or whatever we are called, etc... I doubt it'd be Dahl's influence.
I said the same as this. This utter madness has made me produce videos looking at how we solve this problems. Kindle will AUTOMATICALY edit the works of Roald Dalh. This is first. Today I read the UK Government want to ban Orwell 1984 and other works as they "promote" extremism This madness must stop as what comes next is literally everything 1984 warns us about.
@@pocalypsetours How does anyone think "Shall we ban 1984" without thinking "hang on a second"? World is nuts.
why thank a fictional person some believe live in the sky but I'm glad I grew up in the 80'3/90's!
Exactly. I read the Witches, it scared the shit out of me, and i moved on with my life
I love that "You adjust to the classic, the classic should not adjust to you". Thank you Dr Starkey.
I’m a granny & Totally 100% agree with Mr Starkey , I’m quite a bit older than him....He may not have children but he knows what he’s talking about....As for the young woman in the blue dress, all I can say is “What nonsense!” If she has kids, she’s teaching them to grow up to be ‘spineless’ by wrapping them up in tissue paper & cotton wool. ....
So instead of ERASING THE PAST TO FIT THE PRESENT, how about monitoring all of the crap that young kids are allowed by their CONCERNED parents to watch on the internet...Maybe read out loud the classics to their children while stopping to explain the BAD words....
If a parentless child takes a classic book out of the library & doesn’t understand a particular
word ....do what millions have done before...Ask the librarian or a teacher to explain ...or look it up in a dictionary.
Maybe this ignorant woman is unaware that going back to the 1940s in U.K. after World War 2 ,( if there was a library still standing) this is what children did after being deprived of one parent or another, either from bombings or being killed in action....this obviously is still going on all over the world today....IMO 🇨🇦🇬🇧
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As a kid growing up in the 70's I was a member of the Penguin book club and read alot of Dahl's books before I was 11 with no teacher or parent telling me their interpretation. I can't think of anything more disturbing and dull than listening to an adult telling me what the author really meant...Just bloody patronising!
Brainwashing...
Agree, my younger daughter born in 1968, once a reader, read any book she could get hold of, whatever she pleased. Why sensor books? Rewrite them? Ridiculous!!
Well said. You have obviously learnt the whole purpose of Dahls books
That reminds me of a great scene in Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield. After him perhaps paying Vonnegut to help write a report on his own work.... the professor flames the paper she received saying "...doesn't know the first thing about Vonnegut".
So the moral of the story: read and absorb your own perspective on anything before believing any professor - or new age soapbox minder.
@@Joyce-Mackey One of the lovely things about reading is the constant thirst for knowledge, either from the Story or the words used within the story. You begin to self teach and question what words mean. The whole thing just opens the mind up to other possibilities. Dahl's mischief was brilliant for Children!
Under no circumstances should anyone feel they are in the position to edit another writer’s work, change the language, the rhythm and thoughts. It’s outrageous!
Read a different child’s book, in that case - just find something else. All authors should be able to write as they choose, without limit on their creativity and imagination - as mentioned by Queen Consort Camilla a few days ago 👍👍
Starkey is right - it’s pathetic!
They have already done it to Catch-22, abhorrent vandalism
@@stephencollins9062 - it’s a slippery slope to ‘thought police’ and an utterly homogenised world - both in literary context and spoken word too. We all need to hang on to the original works!
@@carys4231 - it’s not a “slippery slope to”, it’s a cliff we’ve already leapt off. Just most don’t realise it yet.
Yeah... but this points at q motive for me. Allowing publishers to make money from a franchise that would otherwise become valueless.
The discussion then becomes about how to protect the "cultural commons feom capitalism'. Don't buy it and moan us one defence. Banning the book seems extreme.... so then you get into mandating labelling and how much you should do it. The conservative equivalent of misinformation.
Yep, just consign it all to the bin. Not worth the time to edit.
That Rebecca woman is infuriating on a level seldom seen. What a genuinely disturbing mindset.
To use one of their replacement words, she is "enormously" fervent. 😂
She should just lock herself in a room with Postman Pat books which the only "safe" books I can think of off the top of my head.
She sounds like a Leftwaffe Social Worker.
But they claim that a child knows if they're 'transgender', but need guidance over a children's book??? Contradictions galore.
Haha great point.
Exactly
And Rebbeca is thoroughly pro transgenderism. What an awful hypocrite she is!
Kids can't read words but grooming them to be trans is ok lol 😂😂 these clowns make clown world interesting but dangerous
I bet she is all for pervy cross-dressers reading their version of books to little children!
David is 100% correct..authenticity is being banned by the look of things
Not on my watch!
I think she's 100% wrong instead. The concept that a publisher should take on the role of a parent and rewrite fiction is disturbing.
My point of agreement is that perhaps the content of a book should be made clear to the parent.
he def out foxed her at the end lmao
It's called Cultural Marxism.
Leave our classics alone.
Whatever you think of him, Starkey's ability to elucidate a point is impressive. He nails it in the first 30 seconds.
Facts not feelings. So much more efficient.
and then slam dunks it with the korans teaching children to hate everybody that disagrees. but it does teach how to divorce little girls 65:4 that havent started their periods
She outed herself talking about "The Twitts"
“A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”
The opposite of how she was trying to characterize it.
Absolutely vile person.
Also Snow White. The grief-stricken prince believed she was dead. He was kissing her goodbye, not forcing sexual advances on her. How is this halfwit unable to understand stories for barely literate children?
I was about to say
You are right. It is figurative. People such has her can't tell the difference between what is real and what is figurative, nor can they tell the difference between make believe and reality. They should not be allowed within a million miles of an imaginative child.
Its such a shame to see such a fun idea/concept get absolutely defiled.
_Exactly_ , right?
Dear Rebecca....Write your own woke books by all means and see if you can sell them. Do not have the audacity to interfere with the books written by our loved successful and talented writers. You have no right! Dahl would be rotating in his grave and do everything in his power to stop you and you know it well enough....Books which have been interfered with in this way should have a warning printed in bold letters on the front cover: "THIS WORK WRITTEN BY A SOMEBODY HAS BEEN ALTERED BY A NOBODY".
Well said 👏👏👏
Oh wow, what a brilliant and truthful warning that would be!!
Love it. So true.
So kids can't read fat or ugly but can be read to by a giant transvestite in stockings and a basque.
You are absolutely right
Your dad?
@@louminarty Grow up, you’ve just embarrassed yourself.
@@Baglady111 He embarrasses himself on a pretty regular basis.
Exactly Steph. 🤷
I love listening to David Starkey........he talks sense in a world gone crazy. He is so articulate.....probably because he's grown up reading the great books of classic literature.......something that is disappearing in today's schools sadly.
@Andrew barry
There are some suggestions out there that point to the Bard having Homosexual tendencies. Just saying!
This man is a life saver, pure common sense, how can you disagree with him.❤
The only person who has any right to change these books is the Author.
Surely if the author changed the book it would need a new title as it would no longer be the same as the original and thus break some kind of law to market it as the same?
James and the giant peach. Woke edition...
@Grey Voice I don't thing so, but they might want to label it as amended for clarity.
This. 100%.
@Iflyfree always I was wondering if that was possible if the people doing it owned the rights?
People like her are what is wrong with this world. We are descending into complete madness.
We are not descending into madness... We have reached peak madness.
@@timecapsule. Think you are right.
She should write her own books for her children then, and keep them, her children, away from Dahl's books.
I'm sorry for her kids. Wokery is a state of mind. Twisted mind.
Look at the vitriol on her face.
Stop whining and buy Bitcoin. It solves this nonsense
Go David go, a man with common sense.
fewer and fewer of them terrifyingly !!
Yes!!! Long live David!!!
He has both a frighteningly powerful intellect and considerable common sense. Why else would he have been cancelled?
Yes and very rare these days!
“Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”
― Heinrich Heine
I love how she was terrified to answer the Qur'an question, what a dishonest fool she is.
No, it was just a stupid question
@@MsDidi38
Why?
Well, who wouldn't be terrified to answer that question. Do you want to be bl*wn up?
@@MsDidi38 It wasn't that stupid, it showed her up for the cowardly fool she is
@@MsDidi38 It was a great question, and it uncomfortably exposed her.
When you don't challenge children, you get adults like Rebecca Reid
So true. Obviously "karen" wasn't told no by her useless parents and now we ha0pve overgrown spoilt kids.
That's a frightening thought
Spot on
Indeed. Soft, indulgent and weak adults.
Yeah, I bet her parents never smacked her. That kind of neglect leads to this level of foolishness.
We shouldn’t be censoring any books people can make their own minds up
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I am an avid reader and have been since I was at primary school. My mother was also very well read and the only time we discussed reading material was to recommend to the other, but even then it was only in my adult years. What I read as a child was whatever friends recommended and I needed no help or influence from a parent. My interpretation of material was, and is, my own; this skill I have is from a lifetime of practise in thinking for myself.
This woman is talking out of the place where the sun don't shine.
Exactly,she's talking as if children today are incapable of thinking for themselves,which I think is wrong.
I don’t think the average person on the left or right wants this to happen. Someone is stoking this culture war for power.
Correct the thin edge of the wedge, big brother comes for children, a short step then to censor adults
Brilliant David. You Always come up trumps. She just wants to be noticed.
No, no, no censorship, stop changing things to protect feelings, it is ridiculous.
People need their feelings to be challenged!
The whole point of a book is people have these personalities/differences etc. why should we censor that?? It’s a STORY!!!
It's not even about other's feelings, because no one is genuinely offended. It's all about virtue signalling.
I agree it's the people themselves that has the issues of being offended with all things . 🙄
@@milly4556 personalities and differences are not confined to stories and books.
They exist within the human condition, and are usually the sources for STORIES !
I read Enid Blyton as a working class child and it opened up a world that was totally alien to me. I loved them because of that. God this women is bats!
“bats” 😂🤣😂🤣
As I recall any violence in Enid Blyton's books was different animals having a fight. In this way she avoided people fighting.
Are you aware that Bliyton has been messed with ? , must be 20 years ago now, ironically I think pictures stopped showing noddy and big ears sleeping in the same bed ,also something about a policeman no longer dishing out spankings in toy town , Iam just going by memory JB but my memory is quite good , I think it was on kaliedascope on radio 4 , what a silly cow that woman is , good what Starkey said though I dont like his politics
@@philipchurchill6508 I think we need to keep old books as written. It is then possible to determine what was acceptable at that time. In this way you can look back and see how people thought back then.
Yes I was brought up on Enid Blyton it gave me the inspiration I needed.
That woman is everything that's wrong with the world today. How absolutely infuriating.
I wish George Carlin was still alive. He would have a field day with these freak show idealists.
She also looks like someone who has been insulted many times.
I truly despise people like her
She works for The Guardian. Nuff said.
@@robertmac9057: Says it all.
I thoroughly agree with Starkey.
We live in a world where it’s inappropriate to show kids Dahl books but it’s ok to allow them to transition into another sex. Madness
And be read soft and fluffy books by transvestites whilst learning it's ok to be a THEM.... what a mess!
madnesss
Ms Reid's arguments are the perfect example of what that madness has become.
The talking points are all there...pathological empathy to point of self deletion
Gender isn't biological sex. It's "madness" that you Lee still don't understand the difference. Get an education son.
"Don't read Dahl books but here's a phone with an internet connection.. ...go and play"
“Did the Toad consent?” What on earth is this World coming too? Good on you David.
Does Rebecca understand these are stories, and are not real life?
Nope she is just one of those people that takes offense for the sake of taking offense...
The woke interpret everything as real life
No....next question...
Woke hate everything that counters their ideology.
@@greyvoice7949 she takes offence because its very lucrative at the minute.
I feel sorry for her children 😢
Roald Dahl never said that about 'ugly' people, he said this :
*If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that
person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets
uglier and uglier until it gets so ugly you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly.
You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and
stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your
face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely* from The Twits
Love this !
Did he happen to mention anything about degenerates? I'm asking for a friend.
Come on now you cant be coming with sense and context around here! You should know better
You see, this message I just read for the first time in a long time. I had completely forgot about it but in 1 take, I understood what he meant, well I interpreted it my way I suppose.
I read it as he is saying be positive and it will shine through to others. Be happy and even be confident can all apply.
There are thousands of self help books written that all have these same messages. Will they be edited lol.
We are truly in the age of 'the offended' Time for Ricky Gervais to step and make a film about it.
Thank you! I was so frustrated hearing her say that. And then to go on and call him intellectually dishonest!
This woman can ban books for the children in HER home, but she should butt out of interfering with other people's choice of reading material for THEIR children. My children were raised with all the Classic stories as well as more modern ones. They knew they were STORIES and not real! They always recognized who the good people were and who the baddies were.
LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!! 📖📚
I was an incredibly sensitive child and I grew up reading Dahl books and I loved them. My son, who struggles with reading, loves them. David is 100% correct. There is nothing in a Dahl book that requires such dramatic sensorship. This woman needs to calm down!!
This woman needs to solve her own, personal issues instead of having classic books cancelled because she can't handle certain things (which aren't that "traumatizing" really). Oh god, the insanity.
Same here. I loved Dahl's books. I love my Tales of the Unexpected d.v.d. set and I am just embarking on his books for adults. These "sensitivity readers" (or censors as they were once known) are patronizing self-righteous puritans.
Maybe it was her that took such offence to the word ‘fat’ being used
It's great to see so many people who don't buy into the nonsense. It's very telling how she completely misunderstood the passage in the twits about pretty Vs ugly people. It means her whole argument is moot. If she can't understand children's books she's not capable of criticising them.
It seems obvious to me that the lady, like everyone else who has a problem with the books, has never read a Roald Dahl book in her life.
I wonder if she knows of Roald Dahl's adult books? (That's rhetorical!).
Leave Enid Blyton books alone. Stupid woke MADNESS
Dr Starkey is ABSOLUTELY right. This new pathetic generation is catastrophising absolutely everything. It is going to end up in a REVOLT from the children who've had enough of all this dumbing down.
'Pathetic' is the word alright.
that's how the political left can control the story line , and feed the children with their ideas
I agree, i have a feeling that their's going to be a huge pushback, in which we will see a huge cultural shift from the new gen. Against this Extreme wokeism and I'm moderately liberal myself.
The kids won't revolt lol. Lack of intelligence breeds apathetic attitudes. They don't care about history. They care about the Kardashians, fame & getting rich from streaming
The debate became “intellectually dishonest” when they chose someone who is ‘intellectually bankrupt’ to try and debate Starkey on this subject. As an older chap, it sends a shiver down my spine that women like this are in charge of raising future generations. What kind of weak and feeble minded people are we producing where we have to use censorship to protect their fragile little minds? We’re not doing children any favours by ‘protecting’ them from words.
Absolutely!
I recently listened to a discussion on Radio 4 where a young woman in charge of student welfare and curriculum at a University, was stating that it is right that an Archaeology Degree has warnings before lectures that the images and lecture will show bones .. she felt it was highly necessary to protect students from being upset..
What he said about the Quran is completely wrong. What he described is in the Bible but not in the Quran
@p blossom the makes no sense. When people eat KFc, there are bones there? So, in her stupid logic there should be a warning before going to KFC 🍗
@@mssami1664 BS on your part!
I hate to point this out but MEN are also responsible for raising children, the fact you ignore this sends a shiver down my spine.
can you imagine walking into an art gallery, look at a painting and think "I don't like that bit of the painting" and get out your own paints and paint over it?!?!? it's madness. utter cultural vandalism
Absolutely, it's like the guy who buys a historic house and proceeds to rip everything out and turn it into a Barratt shoebox.
It has been done.
@Steve Mceveryman
That's a perfect analogy.
Omg don’t give thes3 idiots @ny ideas
A man of intellect…….and a woman of none
She’s only offended because most of the words apply to her
This comments wins
Bravo 👏🏻
i CONCUR, WELL SAID.
Truth
She'll be the next princess in the new
Princess and the frog
You CANNOT change an author’s writing. This is DESPICABLE
Anyday now they'll be retouching the paintings of the great masters...
I agree with what you said:
"You CANNOT make adjustments to an author’s writing. This is TOTALLY LAME"
Totally agree this is getting disgusting now.
@@1rickslater I'm not sure what the Bible has to do with my little gag above, but as a keen Bible translator myself, I have no problem with Bible translations! Jesus commanded His followers to make disciples of all nations, which you can't do if they can't even read the Bible! :D
@@1rickslater Ah yes, I see. I agree with you about adaptations being fine. But IMHO there's a fundamental difference between creating a new adaptation or interpretation of a work, and just plain editing the original as is being done here!
One is creative, adding something new to the artistic pool; the other is destructive, removing or censoring the original.
I'm personally very happy that they made a "new" Superman in 1978, and a "new" Batman in 1989, instead of sticking with the old versions! :D Many such tales can be re-told time and time again in different ways with broad new interpretations, using new media and new storytelling techniques, suitable for a new audience. And that's all perfectly good fun.
But what you really must not do is go back and permanently change the original work simply because you disagree with what the author wrote. To re-publish a man's books, with his name on them, yet containing new words he never wrote. That's terrible! Only the original author is entitled to make those changes. Only George Lucas has the right to modify the narrative of his Star Wars trilogy.
As for the Bible, it's fascinating you should mention that, as it's a subject I am particularly zealous about. And let me just say a few words in case you find this interesting…
I wasn't raised Christian, and didn't used to think the Bible was anything significant, perhaps wondering if there was some truth to parts of it, though I discounted the parts which seemed too incredible to be real.
However, in my life, God has taken me through a series of profound spiritual revelations. He has spoken to me, made Himself known to me, with signs and visions, and I've had my eyes opened to so much. I've done almost a 180° turn in my life, in terms of what I believe, and all my values.
I've come to realise that the Bible isn't some hap-hazard collection of ancient, irrelevant texts, randomly cobbled together and modified countless times. Nor is it some fallible creative work of folklore written by men with outdated ideas-even though it may (deceptively) appear so.
The Bible is, in fact, the eternal, inerrant, spiritual word of God, where every sub-book, chapter and verse is present and correct, with its compilation having been overseen by God's guiding hand across time and space.
So while the Bible was written by human beings, God Himself is the true author, working through them. (Kind of like how in Transformers Bumblebee speaks by re-tuning the radio, compiling other men's words to get his own message across!)
I've also come to learn that the Bible is provably true, containing hundreds of predictions which came true, often with astounding accuracy, plus scientific detail that no one at the time could have verified but we now know to be true. The text itself also has amazing mathematical properties which prove it to be divine!
So while I'm all in favour of translating or modernising the vocabulary of the holy texts, the words themselves are extremely precious - perfect and divine, and should therefore never be changed, removed, or added to.
In fact, God Himself warns against editing the Bible - right at the very end of the Bible, the third verse from the end:
"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
If anyone's still reading this…wow! You have some patience! :D I've got videos coming soon(ish) so feel free to keep an eye on my channel :-)
Actually, what the author says in the Twits is that you have supposedly ugly facial features but that beauty can still shine through if you are a beautiful character, and vice versa, because it's what's on the inside that counts.
It is really shameful that Rebecca can't even understand a children's book.
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You are 100% right. I also found it quite ironic that she mentioned fairy tales such as Cinderella. In Revolting Rhymes, Roald Dahl opens his version of Cinderella with the lines "I guess you think you know this story.
You don’t. The real one’s much more gory.
The phoney one, the one you know,
Was cooked up years and years ago,
And made to sound all soft and sappy"
That would be too deep for these snowflakes - read the whole thing and think about the real meaning of the text.
she probably hasnt even read any dahl
@Wasssup Dawwwg Well said. She's a hypocrite.
The sad thing is that poor Dahl isn't here to defend himself.
Least he died being loved than alive to see himself twisted into something we all know he isn’t anyway
My brother was born in 1974, and he grew up reading stuff like Danny the Champion of the World, Fantastic Mr Fox, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Witches, The Twits, George’s Marvellous Medicine - these were classics that should never be touched by the woke generation. Nothing in these stories was ever offensive. These stories entertained an entire generation of children, including myself, and I’m 28. They are a product of their time - true but the author’s words should never be edited or altered. I can pretty much guarantee that nobody was ever harmed, offended, disturbed or left utterly traumatised from reading any of these stories!
It’s truly pathetic what has happened to the world today. The woke generation will be the downfall of decency & humanity itself. I guess that’s the whole point…
@whatnextincomo 'sweet sugar dumpling - let me tell you something' - great to be reminded of that song 😄
Plus, glad you could sing songs like that in those days and no one got offended!
They would not have been better written today with the cowardice of self censorship
I wonder if children still read Struwwelpeter. Full of gruesome fates for children who misbehave. I loved it when I was young.
Another thing about this Woke cenship debate on Roald Dhal books is fear of reading orginal books and fairy stories not only is triggering, but innocent children could be emotionally become damaged and end up in harming others because fairy stories explore/,have dark themes about them,
It's interesting funny I grow up reading all kinds of stories books from Enid Blyton famous five gang /,secret seven books ect,
I even read Virginia Andrews Gothic dark theme
Story book flowers in Attic
No way in hell would 😳 that book be viewed as Acceptable today,
Too controversial theme,
I found it at Car boot sale
I was a child in 70s/80s
Anybody rember that story book at all?
And I was never emotionally triggered or damaged by any of these books
Think we can all agree reading these books in 60s/70s/ 80s as kids didn't turn US into the weirdo generation that exists today.
Meanwhile kids now are potentially exposed to absolutely "everything" imaginable on social media........but thats ...OK.
@@webbo9798 no it isn’t “OK” but I really hope that you understand the difference between social media and books?
@@melb5996 I'm simply making the comparisons in terms of whats being exposed to kids on social media as opposed to a few innocent books - yes I do know the difference
No the internet fame game turn ppl into wet attention seeking lettuces
Well Said !
I love David Starkey, he was cancelled by the woke left because he speaks the truth. He made that large Woman look daft.
Not large. Fat.
You are a ''full''. He does not speak the truth all the time.
@@adetolaayodele3425But it is HIS truth. Ha 😂 🫢 you can’t have it both ways.
@@adetolaayodele3425 groomer spotted.
...it isn't hard to do!
The Prince kissed Snow White goodbye when she died. He wasnt trying to violate her ffs!! Get a grip!!!
She’s the same upper middle class sort, that welcomes in people with attitudes from the stone age
Words in Charlie's and the chocolate factory are too much for her, but islamic undocumented men in hotels near school? Everything is fine.
Sick of these morons.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” - George Orwell, 1984.
Spot on.
Orwell was so prescient on so many issues that are now afflicting our modern society. Sadly, if things continue this way, there will be no more Orwells or other great thinkers, because our children will not understand true history, will not be able to think beyond the present and will not feel free to express any challenging thoughts or ideas. As Starkey says, it is the return of the Puritans, and cancel culture is the modern term for blasphemy. Particularly pernicious is the way this is being disseminated by so many so called academics in Universities and colleges, and whereas this cancer really started there, it is now seeping down to ever younger in the education system, as well as being transported into the wider world as these students going into work and take up management roles. Critical thinking skills should be taught at an early age so that children are not so fragile that they cannot entertain differing thoughts or be challenged to understand the hard realities of life.
The parallels between the book 1984 and what society is becoming is truly terrifying.
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Rebecca Reid telling people what they'll be offended by 🤷🤦
Bloody hell !!
I think myself and my children can think for ourselves what we'll be offended by or not, thank you.
What's the world come too
My eyes are offended every time she is dragged out by GB News.
Shouldn't GB news issue a Rebecca warning, before she's on 🤔🤣🤣
@@melb5996 attention seeking at its highest
She has to tell you what you'll find offensive about Roald Dahl's books, because if you ACTUALLY READ THEM you won't find the things she says. She's actually lied about it. Like when she said "The Twits" says that ugly people are all evil. Actually, it says the opposite - Roald said that it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, if you have a good heart that will shine through and make you look lovely. But Ms Reid is a liar.
I’ve never heard of this woman but she sounds like a complete nit wit. It should be up to the parents what books their kids read, I grew up with Enid Blyton and it didn’t do me any harm.
Can we not cancel this woman. Never heard of her
David Starkey the voice of common sense as always
Everybody gets offended. That’s just part of life. David is spot on.
Yeah...for example look at all these Gbeebies viewers who are in the absolute pit of outrage because a new version of a book came out...Ooh it doesn't fit their politics and now they're all throwing their teddies out the pram and bursting into tears...even though you can still buy the original version literally anywhere.
Sad thing is, you Gbeebies viewers don't even realise that you are the worst offenders of outrage culture...Literally every single day you're red faced and ranting about something new...
@@michaelcoward1902 The issue though is that the books were politicised in the first place, sure there were messages in Dahls books, as well as almost every book in existence, but millions of children over the years have read them and almost all of them have turned into decent adults. Now, some people think that they need to shelter children as they are afraid these works might offend somebody. If people don't take a stand at this point then these kinds of people will only continue and will become bolder and bolder in what they do. And that is a fact of human nature. If there wasn't such backlash then there would only just be the one new version.
@@michaelcoward1902 a new version of the book not written by the author perhaps the person rewriting it should try writing something original of their own
@@michaelcoward1902 Your surname is very fitting. Imagine thinking that people objecting to cultural revisionism are in the wrong. You're also being rather disingenuous when you say one can buy the original edition any time.
If true, then children will have access to it, thereby rendering the revisionist version ineffectual in its stated purpose.
Accordingly, you and I both know that the purpose of this new edition is to supplant prior versions in the cultural canon, in which case those earlier versions will be increasingly hard to come by, per the *actual* intent of the changes being made.
The only red face here is yours, courtesy of your communist apologia.
Kids are looking at graphic porn and nobody is saying anything. It’s gross
Tik Toc is more dangerous than Roald Dahl.
Mark the children who are looking at pornography are suffering abuse and need help.
"She's being kissed without her consent" these people are INSANE. If they themselves do not want to read it, fine. Other than that they can take a running jump. They're driving me to despair.
Precisely. They can take a long walk on a short pier.
She even suggested that kissing the frog was wrong. Its a make believe story for heavens sake. These people have lost their senses.
Exactly, how many princesses do you find asleep 😆
@@stellamcniell7928 lol. Brilliant 👏🏼
Obviously not understanding the symbolism of rebirth in the kiss.
I'm a book dealer, none of mine will ever be censored, I have just cancelled cancelled culture, their sorted!!
Well done
I work for a charity popping books online to sell.. its sad how many beautiful books are deemed non sellable due to the odd word or phrase..
Well done 👏 Keep our literature safe and intact
@@pblossom3757 to me, that's their problem, and, there's always people out there who appreciate our true history, and the thing is with history, it always always repeats itself, don't give up
@@Enl1thened1 🙌🌟🙌
I read all the Roald Dahl books as a kid and thought they were just fun stories. That’s it. Kids don’t need babying.
The old gentleman is very courageous indeed. He isn't politically correct st all. Very rare in today's generation
Dr Starkey is right. The way it is going The Hunch Back of Notre Dam' will become 'The Gentleman in the Bell Tower with a bad back.' ludicrous
@whatnextincomo Good point, I meant the
Gentleperson or moving object in Bell Tower ☺
Or the retired plumber with tinnitus and a third place in a Charles Laughton lookalike contest with 2 entries.
The woke mob is treating Western culture as the hunchback.
The word bad might offend though and they may not identify as a gentleman. 😏
@@rontwentyone Good point, Ill try , a back with complications allegedly and gentleperson or moving object in bell tower hearing aid may facilitate😄
I find the woman's opinion insulting. Even as a child I understood the historical context with which books were written. Children aren't stupid unlike these sensitivity grifters.
I cannot believe we are having this conversation
Yeah, sad isn’t it that we’ve come to this.
Freedom of speech should be the same as Freedom of the written word. Some say words and write words not everybody likes. Don't read or listen, It's so easy...
Yet visual media is easily accessible & watched by children in most homes. They can see nudity, listen to profanity, be exposed to graphic violence & highly sexualised content. Where’s the censorship brigade in this space?
If you don’t want your child to read Dahl, don’t purchase it.
Yes, a great example of this is CHILDREN'S MAGAZINES! I mean just go and look on any newsagent's shelf at the magazines being aimed at 7-year-olds and you will see the WORST, most explicit kind of adult content being pushed at them - obscene adult acts such as Ariana Grande, whose music is one sexual expletive after another. Our country clearly does NOT think there's anything wrong with children being exposed to graphic sexual entertainment, and yet Roald Dahl is censored for NO REASON!?
When asked what's the worst thing about his books, Rebecca lied and claimed that Roald Dahl's book "The Twits" says that ugly people are all evil, and beautiful people are all good. When in fact Mr Dahl said the EXACT OPPOSITE. He said that it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, if you have a good heart, that will shine through and make you look lovely. However, Ms Reid is part of a pack of liars who distort the truth and clearly don't give a damn about children, or they would be objecting to the contents of children's magazines.
I've tried to get these horrific "children's magazines" banned, but I don't have the power. My complaints are ignored. It's going to take a lot of people with a lot of money and influence to solve this problem, possibly someone like JK Rowling, who, I think, DOES care about people.
It’s fine for her to have her own views on the books, but it’s not fine for her to impose them on everyone else.
Amen
+1
Wokists are terrified of freedom and want to curtail it....these people are satanists
Exactly ...she can have her own views .....but what gives her the right to set her self up as the moral guardian of society ....NONE....GO AWAY 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I 100% agree
If they censor Roald Dahl where do you stop. This world is going crazy.
Exactly, next step adult works
Dr Seuss will be next. Veganidiots will declare war on 'Green eggs and ham'.
Silly women; ever learning but unable to come to the knowledge of the truth. Truly.....they should be ashamed.
When did Roald Dahl ever upset a child. Every child has the fondest memories of his books. We need to learn resilience
Exactly. His books brought nothing but laughter and fun. There's a reason kids still love them 80 years later....she's got some nerve trying to change the words of a literary giant like Roald Dahl. Unbelievable.
There are many fans who are in their 20s or 30s don't see anything upsetting about the books. What more they grew up with his books. Roald Dahl was emphasizing the Aesop lessons elements. The word "fat" was referring to one of the antagonists' self-absorbed attitude of being too greedy about food. As for the gore in a certain fairytale twist stories, I believe it's a figurative speech rather than a glorification of violence.
Exactly. I loved reading his books as a kid and never found anything in the least bit offensive. This is just another case of the left choosing to be offended and trying to spoil it for everyone else.
Sticks and stones is what we were taught growing up. And that offence is taken, not given. These children have no mental fortitude and the whole of society will suffer as a result.
When Starkey finally departs, he will never be replaced…
He needs to be cloned.
@@JwayT who isnt cloned these days.
Well he's got to be by somebody.
the same for Britain and its values ! These social marxists just want to burn everything down so that they can replace it with their insane unlivable Dogma and Total control of Everything and Everyone !
V FOR VENDETTA COMMING TO LIFE UNTIL THE LEFT CENSOR'S IT AS WELL 👿👿
Rebecca is the perfect example of woke madness.
The man impressed me massively. His argumentation is really great, respect.
She's repulsive in many ways,......and then she opens her mouth.
no feminist hate and trying to erase anything that is not flattering to the female gender
The modern-day witch burners the modern-day zealots are the woke mob, they have the Iq of rocks and a desire to feel self-righteous. They are pulling apart society.
If she is who I think she is, then I saw Milo Yionnapolis dismantle her once and it was beautiful!
Read all the Roald Dahl as a child and never thought that it's ever affected my life . I remember watching the exorcist uncut as a child and instead of the cut version because it was better !! She's a prime example of the mampy pampy frightened generation
The Twits does not say if you have an ugly face you are an ugly person. It says if you only have ugly thoughts, eventually you become ugly. It's as if people jump in and criticise that as bad without even reading the book.
yes. she totally missed the point. Dahl's point was that even if you're physically ugly, if you're a nice person your inner beauty shines through
There was a lot of ejaculating at Greyfriars.
I was a voracious reader as a young child and read anything that I could get my hands on including of course Enid Blyton and Roald Dahl. Both my parents were "around" but they were "absent" in the sense that they did not censor nor explain to me what I was reading. Looking back I couldn't think of anything worse! The Famous Five made me want to be part of a gang and go exploring for adventures; Roald Dahl made me giggle with the absurdity of his tales. Neither of these authors meant that I grew up to be a racist or an unkind person. These books instilled in me a love and wonder of reading which led me onto C.S Lewis, J R R Tolkien and S E Hinton.
Absolutely correct comment. Strangely Tolkien was broadcast on the Home service and it was magnificent. So much so that I could not get into the books for years. Imagination is a wondrous part of our makeup.
You wrote exactly my childhood too + I had some wacky teachers who suggested HS Thompson & Hemingway when I was 11ish,thank god the new censors weren’t around as my life would not have been as enriched as it is 👍
Great comment,
same here!
I "survived" and I think I am thriving as a human because I read all those wonderful books. They challenged me, they made me laugh and google, dream, hope, love, learn... Gee, this woke world is the new Inquisition!
Absolutely agree with you. We got "lost" in these stories, used our imagination and remembered all the wonderful good endings
@@noeleneroodt783 Absolutely! We were transported into other dimensions, with words that made us change the way we felt, thought, spoke and laughed. It was magical, our parents trusted us and were happy for us!
These books were my refuge, they made me so happy,
Sometimes they took my breath away and I would reread whole passages because I liked what I was discovering so much...
I felt protected as if the author had intended them for me, and knew I existed.
I don't want the woke army to protect my children from these delicious books, could they please mind their own business? No one is forcing them to read them for heaven's sake!
Have a good Sunday evening, dear ones!
Well said Dr Starkey. Let children enjoy reading.
In the words of Basil Fawlty, ‘ This is exactly how Nazis Germany started!’
Sick of people taking offence at anything and wanting to force their feeble offence on others through censorship!
Yep they cant live and left live , question is who is funding these loonies who have got nothing better to do with their time
Precisely! The censorship of the past are acts taken by c_(comment censored by UA-cam)_ts!!
Ironically, many comments will be censored by some soppy dingbat numpty from UA-cam!!
I knew she was going to bottle the Koran question as soon as Starkey mentioned it.
There are a lot of questions they would never answer... Book burning or book censorship for instance... Both have the same desired effect.
Did you notice her eyes darting frantically around the room as the hamster wheel in her head went into overdrive? Glorious.
What he said about the Quran is completely wrong. What he described is in the Bible but not in the Quran
She looked like someone who was told their plane is about to crash.
@@mssami1664 Why single out the Quran? Has he never read the Old Testament?
I didn’t have an adult to explain Roald Dahl to me. I found his books in the library when I was about 8, The Fantastic Mr. Fox was the first book ever that I couldn’t put down. I developed a lifelong love of reading because of his books, and never once discussed them with adults. Even as a child I understood that books are different than reality.
Yes of course you understood that. These mentally retarded social justice warriors can’t figure that out.
Imagine reading books written by these sorts of people now as a child.... scary. "The Frog and the lovely Them"
I think that children are brighter and more sensible than these creatures give them credit for.
All these children will grow up as even worse snowflakes. Every book has good and evil as long as there is a moral in the end.
She is so pushy to an elderly man she has no empathy for others opinion.
Rebecca Reid speaking at her usual fast rate, so no one will actually pick up on the utter nonsense she is spouting. I don't think I'd want to pick up any of her novels. May I direct her to the Saki short story Toys of Peace.
“Read a Roald Dahl book in a safe way” 😂 don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Does she mean sitting on a chair, rather than on the road in traffic? I used to read safely sitting down or laying in bed! Not sure how much more of this woke nonsense I can take, DS sso correct calling it pathetic
@@ursulagrenter5537 Highwire reading 🤭
I burst out laughing when she said about withholding Snow White because it due to kissing a passed out person. Absolute 🤡
No more kiss of life I guess!
This broad is truly a pathetic excuse for a human being and an embarrassment to the female s@x..she should be withheld from serious discussions as shes unfit to be taken with any kind of seriousness or fruitful thought..all I saw was everything she said seemed to be motivated by misplaced feelings which is actually very toxic...people like her are dangerous and are the same individuals who will put a bloke in a female prison because he says hes a wom@n now. 🤦♂️
In the case of White v Prince X at the Old Bailey....
What about the ending to Romeo and Juliet and kissing a corpse....
I've always imagined that, as a man, waking up find someone gently touching you intimately in a sensual manner would be quite nice. Unless you're in prison of course.
i can see why she doesn t like the word fat
When books censors are less mature than the actual kids
Precisely.
C_(comment censored by UA-cam)_TS!!
Snow white was not passed out. She was under a spell that only a prince could break that’s pretty explanatory right there in the tale
The important question wasn’t addressed - who’s job is it to decide what’s offensive and what isn’t? It’s not anybody’s apart from the individual who chooses to read it. The word puritanical doesn’t go far enough - it’s tyrannical to choose and decide what’s right for others to read.
Yes the individual and the rights of the individual are never taken into account as people push these agenda's.
But look at the whole travesty that was Covid where you could not question it all... Constant removal/cancellation of people , censorship everywhere and it seems we are headed into darker waters.
Yes, good point. The activists that call for this are the ones who would decide, in their world. Thank goodness people are standing up about it. Too much of this goes under the radar.
Except you can still buy the original...So you're literally worked yourself up into shrieking hysterics over absolutely nothing...
Rebecca's argument seems to be that ALL children need sensitivity readers to decide what's best for them because SOME children don't have parents. Presumably they aren't orphans wandering the streets at risk of nothing but hurty words in books designed for children. Idiotic doesn't even cover it.
@@michaelcoward1902 You’ve missed the point with that comment I’m afraid - it’s not the compromise that’s the important part, it’s the thinking behind the action that’s the concern for people (that and the fact that one of Britain’s most beloved authour’s works have been tampered with).
They always look like her. Have you noticed?
Love listening to David Starkey. When I was growing up in junior school we used have a story book session where a teacher would read a chosen book to the class, I can still remember James and the Giant Peach being read to us. Wonderful.
I loved the terrified look of fear on her face when confronted with the “Do you want the Quran censored?” question! Lol 😂
Exactly what I thought. Its funny how's Reading Dahl books is damaging for children however teaching children that men can become women and women can become men is fine. The world is bonkers
@@bradleyharris8064 only western world pal we got these problems
@@bradleyharris8064 Yup, the books they are fighting over in the States include graphic descriptions of sex with graphic novel versions and curse words. Those are being pushed on children by the same people who think depictions of witches are harmful because of misogyny. This is not about protecting the kids. This is about pushing 'allowed' messages to kids.
@@xenondoro8573 The far left is really damaging our society. Have you seen the parents taking there children to 'Drag acts' honestly makes me feel sick.
@@bradleyharris8064 Not to mention that there are lunatics out there who seem to think that reading Books like "Lord of the Rings" and "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" makes you an "Alt-Right" person
Snow White and the other Grimms fairy tales are archetypal stories that carry a message about human character and morality. Yes they are sometimes frightening but those of us who grew up on them survived. Keep up the good work Dr Starkey
Even if it was scary, we still knew it was just a story. That's what made them so delicious! 😁
The Twits didnt say if you're ugly you're a bad kid at all. I thought it was a good message, that as an adult I still often think about - that if you try to live a miserable life and be miserable to others, over time your face becomes miserable as well!! It teaches children to try to be as positive as they can be!!
Roald Dahl books have NOT left a trail of traumatised kids, but have encouraged kids to read because guess what, kids like the content! That's why Roald Dahl has lasted the test of time.
Rebecca Reid's example from The Twits shows that she has completeely misunderstood what she was reading. She states that, "In The Twits there is a whole passage about if you are a nice person, you will have a nice face and look nice." The point Dahl actually makes is that regardless of your physical appearance, if you are beautiful on the inside it will shine through. She's wanting to remove the books most wholesome and profound message!
Frightening isn’t it. I think this the result of Blair’s university system.
Yes that's exactly what he meant and it was something that sticks with you.
Gosh, yes, l actually think l remember this message from reading Dahl / hearing it read as a child. It’s like a distant hazy memory, but it was something about how your face looks beautiful if you are beautiful on the inside. It’s stuck with me for 30-odd years!
@@mysticjen379 That's exactly what has happened. He opened the doors to the masses with the promise of a higher education. What he really did was drive their soft heads into the hands of hardline marxists and Fabian socialists who filled their heads with their stupid fantasies that don't work in the real world.
Exactly what I was going to comment. Well said.
“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”
That is the original quote Rebecca, you've completely misunderstood/not read the book properly. If you're going to quote something to make a point, at least get it right. Dahl was saying it doesn't matter how you look, if you have good thoughts you will always looks lovely, so you're completely wrong about this part being toxic.
Like how the fuck did Camilla Tominey not have orthodontic treatment in her youth, by 2005? Why is she from 1973 as well?
@@therespectedlex9794 it was very hard to find a dentist on the nhs in those days, I remember them well, they all went private, almost overnight!
@@harrietkinloch7451 Bull shit! And I meant 1999, because she's a couple of years older, not younger, than me. There was plenty of NHS jaw and chin stuff to go round, in the 90s and 2000s. What the fuck is 'she'?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 to the person who posted Dahl's actual quote
Brilliant comment!
Country is to soft nowadays
That woman is out of her mind. I was an avid reader as a child and read all the versions of Cinderella, including the one where the step sisters chopped off their toes. I was not damaged as a result!
Whenever I read something I found weird or curious, I used to talk with my Mom about it. Those discussions are honestly some of my most cherished memories. I am one of ten children, so it was really the only time I had an opportunity to talk one on one with my mother.
Last year I read my kid the chopped off fingers version. He seems more than alright. Even though we're portuguese and he's only 8, he's reading fluently in English as well thanks to Roald Dahl. We have multiple editions in both portuguese and english. The first book he wanted to read by himself was The Twits. This year they presented a book at school and he did The Witches, with most kids having read small and much more childish books with little plot in them. Part of their charm is how these books were written and how that makes the experience enjoyable for children... Not that I'm a fan of Piers Morgan, but the I don't think it's unfair to draw comparisons to China... it's all quite sad to watch
I totally agree with this. I read the foot-chopping version as a child and I was like 'that sister was stupid, you shouldn't be doing that' and in no way, shape or form was traumatized.
She actually said, "did the frog consent". That's all you need to know about her.
Now it’s Ian Fleming. It’s disrespecting the author and the reader. We’re quite capable of judging the context of books and their chronological provenance.
Leave alone, simple as that.
This is one seriously screwed up woman. She actually says she would never read her kid Snow White because the Princess did not consent to being kissed by the Prince. 🤣
AMEN!
I feel sorry for her kids!!
She's the same with everything. If it's pathetic she's all over it.
I thought you were joking until I actually heard her say it. God help us!
Yeah that was she lost me in the debate. 😆
Absolutely NO book should be censored or re-written.
The modern-day witch burners the modern-day zealots are the woke mob, they have the Iq of rocks and a desire to feel self-righteous. They are pulling apart society.
Here here!
Your opinion doesn't matter "Borough Gal".. do you not realise this yet??
We had Balzac's "Father Goriot" as one of the Literature class reading and most of us had to read it from book series printed (1961) during USSR reign. Balzac was considered not appropriate for communist readers, so the only way for it to get printed was to have lengthy pro-communist foreword. That was a way to bypass restrictions on content. It worked only 'cause everyone involved in translating and printing wanted uncensored books. There were plenty of books catering the worker/communistic political ideology and didn't need forewords to pass inspection.
I was born after the USSR and frankly don't want to give up freedom of speech or expression. The art created during that time period is a painful lesson on the oppression of art and the clever way artists learned to defy that (or got erased sometimes with their families, if discovered).
I'm not sad that the art from USSR period was created, but sad due to so much being left unread/unseen cause one representative painting/book sums up that period and to experience the rest is waste of time..
@@87stevan and your opinion of my opinion doesn’t matter either….or haven’t you realised that, so bore off!