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@@cj7073 With the introduction of its 14th Gen processors just last month, Intel introduced a new feature called Application Optimizer, or APO for short. It's a new scheduling technology to help boost frame rates in select games-very few select games, in fact, as there are just two that support APO today. But that's not the only way this feature is limited: It's a 14th Gen exclusive and Intel says it has no plans to roll it out to older chips. APO is supported in Rainbow Six: Siege and Metro Exodus and Intel says you can expect up to a 20% increase in performance in the latter with APO enabled. That's pretty much backed up by figures from Hardware Unboxed.
Just I upgrade my pc (yesterday) from Ryzen 7 1700x to Ryzen 9 7950x3d and is a difference like night and day. 35467 on Cinebench R23 with the processor stock .
I built a 13700k system on the last Prime day and I like it. It was my first Intel system since a 4790 cpu pc. I was all Ryzen for 5yrs, I still have the 5800x3d for my gaming pc. (I still own the Intel 4790 cpu system.)
if only Ryzen's iGPUs had a feature rich encoder/decoder block like intel's... If 7800X3D had 4:2:0, 4:2:2 & 4:4:4 8bit and 10bit H.264, H.265, VP9 and AV1 decoders and encoders it would be BY FAR the best CPU below $500 for video editors that also want play games & and use as little power/wattage as possible
I have trouble understanding why NLEs are refusing to address the iGPU features that are there. Ryzen 7000 has the same encoders/decoders as an RDNA2 GPU, but the only software that'll use it is handbrake.
I'm coming from ryzen 2600 for photo editing for my freelance job. Thinking of and upgrade for video editing and your channel helps me so much since I'm so lost at the recent hardware. Best subscribed ever!
Hey man, amazing content. I plan to buy i7-14700k, can you recommend me which cooling system I should use? AIO or AIR? And if so, which models are best for i7-14700k. I want to avoid my cpu overheating. I play video games and do some hobby work in unreal engine 5.
Just bought one , I'm not this guy lol but you want AIO , air will run pretty hot. Surprisingly though for games it does pretty well on most titles 38-55 across all games. I have a couple year old kraken x62 280mm AIO, used thermal grizzly in kryonaut extreme paste on it . Seems solid. If you have to go air for monetary reasons get a big noctua dh15 for it , use good paste. Should be ok in games but any kind of stress test cinebench etc you will get quite warm , cinebench pushed. Mine to about 83-85c before it settled.
@@brettberry9846 oh awesome. Yea I thought to go with AIO. Is it possible to get 38-55 in cinebench with AIO, or you need custom water cooling for that?
@@nemanjagavrilovic8812 honestly not sure of something that would keep this chip that cool on cinebench they just get warm regardless from the power draw . A 280 or 360mm would be ideal I'd just go with that. Cinebench is only if you care about the scores doesn't mean much for gaming just a thing to do. I bench my systems once then just use em. More out curiosity.
I'm guessing tdp/heat between the 13700 and 14700. The extra p-cores may not play well sharing power with the iGPU and it's crippling GPU stats while giving multicore tasks extra cores (and probably speed). I would guess it was a tuning decision under the assumption that most people using a 14700k will probably have a discrete GPU anyway, so reduced iGPU wouldn't be noticed (not sure how that might affect quicksync encode and decode though, but even the weakest 11th gen quicksync is still super powerful so probably not much). Since only the 14700k got a boost in cores, I could see it also being the SKU that got more tuning attention. Maybe with yields they have a ton of 14700k dies and they want a little extra incentive for people to go 14th gen instead of save a few dollars with a 13700k
I bought this CPU on launch and coming from an i7 6850k, it was worth it to me, but I don't know if it's worth it for creators with "last gen" hardware (12th Gen Intel, 5000 series AMD), This CPU for me feels like a slightly worse 13900k, my synthetic scores are very close to it, while running cooler. Great CPU.
Bro, you released this video today, but I think you made it several days back. Now there is an APO improvement already released for the 14th Gen, and you need to check the benchmarks based on that. There is approximately 20% boost in performance after switching on APO on games and some other productivity softwares, as I heard.
After some testing 14th gen seems to be no different for memory from 13th gen. A 'good' 13th gen CPU and good memory seems to be equal and sometimes better than 14th so it's all RNG on that one. For the average "XMP and go" user there is pretty much no difference. I still disagree with the power limit (or lack thereof) on motherboard thing. In my opinion the default should be spec on creator/workstation motherboards with the option to change that if you want. The fact that you might actually get less performance out of the box because the motherboard defaults can cause throttling even with some AIO's on the 700/900 CPU's is silly especially because a lot of people won't know what the problem is or how to fix it, or even that there is a problem.
My 14700k w/o an undrvolt and power limits would draw up to 260w in some games and get to 93c with a 280mm aio 😂 I mean it didn't throttle....right? Lmao
@@Wawawalulu best of both world there, I've worked on a couple 13700k systems that throttled with 360 AIO's 'out of the box', setting proper power limits generally fixed the issue though.
I really need help, and hoping you or some of your viewers can chime in. I recently got the Gigabyte Z790 Pro X all white motherboard, and want to buy the new Corsair Dominator Titanium Ram, but I never understood single or dual ram memory slots. I’d like to max out the memory, or is that a bad thing to run 4 sticks, and just stick with 2 sticks of 96GB? Thanks
Your numbers for Davinci Resolve seem way lower compared to what Puget Systems got for the 14700k in their testing and you both are using similar test benches and running the exact same test. They found the 14700k beating out the 13900k in the extended, overall, and fusion scores.
I think it's pretty simple really: whichever is cheapest at the moment. There seems to be basically no difference in performance even though there are 4 more E-Cores, maybe some BIOS or driver updates can squeeze a bit more, but doesn't seem to be the case. I'm building a new PC after a loooong time, was looking for the 13700K, but then the 14700K dropped in price for Black Friday bellow the 13th gen, and got that instead
I'm about to build a I7-14700k based system, but I am scared about Intel's instability issues now. I only edit occasionally in Davinci Resolve. Will a Ryzen 9 7900x handle that? They will be paired with a RTX 4070TI SUPER and 64Gb RAM
you will be just fine with a ryzen 9 I bought a ryzen 9 7950x from a 12th gen i7 for 350 recently and it works like a champ I wouldn't recommend intel because what if something went wrong than intel wouldn't replace your product.
Hi! I'm planning to get this processor for faster export times in Lightroom Classic. I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600 and exporting 1000 raws from my Nikon Z5 24mp takes 47min to finish. How much of an improvement will I get if I upgrade to 14700k? Need your help and advice because it's either I upgrade my PC or get a Macbook Pro 14. Not doing much Video Editing, just lots of photos in Lightroom Classic.
If 3050 and arc a750 are same price..which one should take for graphics design and 3d animation works.Which will perform better in adobe sofware? Thanks.
Would it be possible to do another run around XMP @ $ DIMMs on the 14th-gen? An improved IMC should [maybe?] allow for DDR5-6400 with four slots, right? -bZj
I have 14700KF. It's very stable at all P cores 5,7GHz and all E at 4,5GHz, temperatures are pretty low, performance is great. But I cannot go any further with it, even one core at 5,8 cause crash. I use OC Genie on MSI Z790-A, and probably I need to boost voltage to OC it even more, but im newby in in and I can't figure it out yet. It looks like 14 gen doesn't need CPU brackets! Mine fit perfectly in the socket, moderate pressure, no bend at all
Great video as always mate, but I've got an honest question that has really been bugging me, I'd be grateful if you could answer it. I see a lot of difference with the official puget systems benchmarks on their site. There the 14700k beats in every category the 13700k and specifically as a video editor (davinci resolve), the 14700k obliterates in fusion the 13700k on their site, and on every other dr specific benchmark. Why's there such a big difference with your results? I mean I know there can be a sample variation at max 4% between 2 same cpus, but we are talking way more than that. Thank you!
is this a good build? Case: Antec Performance 1 FT CPU: Intel Core™ i5-14700K GPU: ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Mobo: ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30 SSD: Samsung 990 PRO Series - 2TB Gen4 PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2 AIO: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360
That is a very good build. I have a similar build in my shoppinglist, but with Kingston Fury 2TB Nvme and 5600 CL36 RAM. I mostly use Davinci Resolve so I am considering to step down to i5 13500 to shave off 250 € and only a about 5% perfomance.
7:00 Hindsight 2024, the motherboard defaults damage both 13/14th gen i9 and cause instability. Likewise for some 14th gen i7 depending on your silicon lottery. I currently lowered my PL1 and PL2 on my 14700k to 253/253W and waiting if other people running higher wattage haven't had accelerated degradation.
So, for 33% more power (100w almost) you get 5-10% more performance (and doesn't win every time either) with the 14700K compared to the 7900X. So, what is the price difference as well. Doesn't sound or look like a very good deal to me. It will cost more to run, more to cool, and more heat in my room.
Could you do a review of 14-th Gen non k CPU's when they become available? This 14 generation is very confusing, not much gains and still very power hungry. I am thinking about the non k chips, especially the 14900 as an upgrade. I have the 12400. My friend has the 12600k and also ponders upgrading to the 14900 non k. Basically we wonder if there is an upgrade path without committing to the insane wattages that characterize the 14 gen k chips.
i have a question i am running i7 6700k and let say i went with the i7 14700k with a asus rog max z790 dark zero mother board not doing any oc with ddr 5 6400mhz with a psu 1000w evga will that setup be ok with out the cpu getting hot
In my country 13700kf‚ 13700k‚ 14700kf‚ and 7900 (non-X) are pretty much the same price. 14700k and R9 7900x are like 20 USD (converted from local currency) more expensive. So, I guess 14700kf should be the one to go with or the 14700k if the iGPU is needed.
@@musik847.1 most softwares supports dGPU‚ that's why I've said "So‚ I guess 14700kf should be the one to go with or the 14700k if the iGPU is needed".
The tiny last gen Ryzen 5 5600X3D using 16GB 3200Mhz DDR4 RAM can match or beat a Ryzen 9 7950X in quite a few games despite it's 32 super fast cores and mega high speed DDR5 RAM. We need more low cost cache loaded CPUs for the pure gamer! Ryzen 5 7600X3D, we need that.
I upgraded to the 14700k from 13700k a month ago when it became available and have been pleased with the overall results. 3% improvement in single core and 18% improvement in multicore in Cinebench 23. I use it in audio mixing environments and is working superbly. I feel like this is the ideal product in the socket 1700 family with the i9 products pushing the realistic current, clocking and thermal limits a little too hard. Combine that with 4 more E cores and somewhat refined memory timings and you've got the winner, 14700k in my book. I thnk this one will take me a good bit further into the future than previous generational uplifts have.
looks like my i5 13500 after i3 530 will be fine for some time and will upgrade to 14700k if i need to since my msi mag b760 mortar D5 will handle that cpu too easily
I know Amd fangirls insist it is impossible to change a motherboard. I run a 7 year Masters degree in changing motherboard and not just putting in new cpu.
I'm looking for a new system and the limited possibilities for upgrading with intel in the future make me look at a 7900X. Then again, it'll most likely be five years from now that I'll be upgrading again and things might have changed so much I'll need a new motherboard anyway.
@@ErikSmitsPhotography The FALACY regarding upgrade paths is AMD soywhimp rubbish. There are Master degree available to change a motherboard ,, just 7 years ,,, SARCASM. it is fairly simple to change a mobo and selling a used cpu and mobo TOGETHER is actually easy
@@ErikSmitsPhotography you wont be 5 years on same cpu especially if you will go with new gen gpus., everybody think same with 5950x and 5900x and now this cpus are simply pointless after 3 years for buying as used or new if you can find them !! 14700k as i see its too much expensive and basically are like 7950x in price but not in performance/productivity and power consumption are double higher then 7950x and for 5 months zen5 comes and 7950x will still have some value so selling it and add some money and buying something like r7 9900x which would have less cores but faster then 7950x will be pretty fine
brother, please a recommendation for a computer for 4k 10 bit video editing. I am between a core i7 13 generation with a 4070 and 32 GB of ram or some mac. maybe mac mini M2 pro or mac studio M2 max 32gb
Actually, though I'm glad that the 14700 has good specs and is considered a good chip. However, when comparisons are involved, the machine I am replacing was old, using an i7-2600. So IF I have to compare total throughput, I'm winning even if the 14700 a dog. (The old box started to fall apart; it was time to be merciful and put it out of its misery.)
i consistently get 35,500+ score on Cinebench R23 with my 14700kf undervolted by 0.150 and power limited/capped to 253W if anyone wants to try that and get a boost because 33,440 that is in this video is way too low.
This is why I keep complaining about the out of the box power defaults on creator motherboards (and in general). Setting in spec power limits can make a noticeable difference in performance when actually taxing the CPU and it isn't throttling.
@@theTechNotice And thats something that I wish was explored more by Intel, even if it is just a pentium change with the 1P+4/6E on laptop. I also wonder how many of their CPUs are binned down like AMD's 5600x3D.
hey man i currently have old pc with i7 4790k processor now i am building new pc for davinci and premiere and lil bit of gaming so which one you suggest to buy ( i prefer i7 lineup) i am looking for best performance in least power consumption possible (efficient) thanks! been your sub since long time🙂
13700/13700k and b760/z690 combo could be a good deal now as there's no other upgrade path better next year with lga 1700 socket. 14900k next year will be left in the dust for sure by a core 5 cpu with big node change from intel
I still feel this "14th" gen shouldn't be. With the 4th gen, they released a couple updated items, the 4790k and 4690k, that just slightly clocked up the previous 4770k and 4670k. Intel should have done this same thing with these, as the 13950k and 13750k, for example. This "14th" gen really isn't one. Then again, for this generation, and for gaming, the 7800X3D is still the best bang for the buck.
Why would Intel produce such insanely power hungry CPU's that require humongous coolers? Makes no sense to me. Why not give the consumer a normal 80-90 watt CPU or at least a choice of one. A normal 6 or 8 core chip with one or two e-cores. Is this going to be some trend? Numerous cores and ridiculous power draws? I hope not.
14700k are 13700k with 4 more cores and threads and some clock boosts that is it basically but that will not be enough vs zen5 which would come somewhere in april-may 2024
price of 14700k are way above of r9 7900x while performance are not so way above and am5 mobo have future in zen5 ,6 upgrading while 14th gen are on dead mobo
ryzen piss on any Intel cpu., we see how Intel is "good" when they only changed numbers and give some clock boost and nothing else for 12,13,14gen with 2-3x higher consumption!! no wonder their sales of cpu are garbage @@tilapiadave3234
only dumbo pays so much money for cpu obn dead motherboard and for 5 months zen5 will come which would totally piss any I)ntel cpu in everything, even lower ones so r5 9600x will wipe floors with 14900k/ks in gaming !! RIP Intel!! only bad will be that AMD would have again domination and higher prices because of lack of competition @@tilapiadave3234
in UK amazon are 20-25 pounds difference on your links beetween 7950x and 14700k and 120pounds more 14700k costs over 7900x and of course 14700k are on dead mobo and AM5 will be alive for zen5 and 6 @@theTechNotice
obviously you cpu will be fine but your Motherboard will be cooked. it's best to stay under 90c even if you have high end motherboard, 85c For low-mid range motherboards
e cores suck, completely pointless and all you do is disable them for better performance. Then you have to lock all cores because boosting hurts performance and as we found out, degrades the CPU. These new CPUs are a mess :/ Just give us all performance cores, all cores locked on a silicon lottery winner with a good mem controller as I'm sick of having to buy about 10 to get one good one and then spending months getting refunds.
I got in a fist-fight and my lip was cut, and I ruined the hoody lol literally wore it twice!! Pfffft. This country has too many woke maniacs prowling the streets :) I guess I have to get another one now! Lol. Good job they actually look nice or I would be pissed about having to straight away buy a second set. Did enjoy that gold on grey though, probably go for that again.
@@theTechNotice nah he's a woke maniac that's what he needs me to do... So he can put videos out saying "SEE I TOLD YOU JEWS ARE EVIL" :) I was wearing a bodycam so he's just getting a little visit from police... And his life is already a wreckage so I do not require any revenge lol. Seriously this guy, I feel sorry for his wee dog. The dog looks at him like "why am I not holding YOUR lead?". And I know exactly how he feels!
14th Gen is absolute garbage. AMD's lineup is MUCH better and, in my workloads, beats Intel most of the time and if it loses it's by a very little bit. Zen 5 comes next year and can fit in the same socket will completely beat Intel's line up in all benchmarks.
Ok………IT’S NOT A 20 core cpu. The “e” cores are not real cores. The only cores that should be counted are the (p)erformance cores. I’m really tired of UA-camrs counting these (e)fficiency cores as real cores. Smoke and Mirrors.
same here its shocking how many dont know this. iam sure they are on the payroll or inv3estors pushing this junk. dlss and fsr are also selling points these days lol. more lanes are now an upgrade lol ai stuttering upscaled games are making me stick to my old native dx11 i7 7700k with gtx1080ti ddr4 2 x 32 gb no latency 16pci lanes. i came from consoles to get 1440 native 120fps 144hz to 240hz not to upgrade to downgrade upscaled and off chip multi tasked gAames now the judgement is fps with fsr its a fraud to sell to idiots
Each e-core is roughly the same performance as a i7 7700 core. der8auer already did an e-core video showing this. this ruse that they are not real cores has been debunked long time ago. A shame u people keep spreading these lies
@@mitchmurray2260 Not lies dude and I’m not an “AMD PERSON”. I’m a high end gaming rig builder who builds and tunes both. I can unequivocally tell you that “e” cores are NOT true cores regardless of what Der Bauer says. They are useless for gaming and you said it yourself…….”equivalent” to 7700k CPU. That’s a long way from a 12th, 13th, or 14th gen core. So yeah……….half cores. “E” cores are Intel’s answer to AMD’s core count……….which is all “Performance” cores BTW. If Intel were to manufacture an all “P” core CPU it would burn up faster then space debris entering our atmosphere. Their present architecture cannot support higher core counts and the power draw is ridiculous. From my point of view ………… AMD has surpassed Intel taking all things into consideration. Heat and power draw is killing the present Intel architecture and getting more then 2 gens out of a platform is a must. The AM4 platform will go down in history as one of the best platforms ever. There’s no denying that.
again, you should delete this video. First at all the 13700k cannot be faster than the 14700k. Do you have a degree in IT? or computer science? man you need to so you can understand proper testing procedures and best practice, and impacts of going one way or another. Your review is wrong.
me rocking a i77700k z260 gtx1080ti NATIVE 4k capable but on average 180fps at 1440 dont want dlss or fsr or upscaling, i came away from console to get away from 1080 60fps upscaling to get into pc gaming. sad how its going backwards, they had to rewrite crysis to work on modern pc cpus and cards WHY? because they cant run it LOL. AAA gaming is not AAA gaming anymore sticking with dx11 on old and not buying console ports at low res . im done with upgrading to a pointless fraud by all these companies .
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Depends on your workflow! :)
why dont you actually test these "specs" to see what is better. specs mean little these days. some do way more, some do way less.
talking about memory.
I actually bought the 14700k and I came from ryzen 9 3900x and it's been an insanely awesome upgrade. I actually got 34k on cinebench R23
nice bro now you will slowly get the apo features for most famous application and then you will be more happy
@@ItsDeeno69 what is that? can u expand on it?
@@cj7073it optimizes e core efficiency in two games so far
@@cj7073 With the introduction of its 14th Gen processors just last month, Intel introduced a new feature called Application Optimizer, or APO for short. It's a new scheduling technology to help boost frame rates in select games-very few select games, in fact, as there are just two that support APO today. But that's not the only way this feature is limited: It's a 14th Gen exclusive and Intel says it has no plans to roll it out to older chips.
APO is supported in Rainbow Six: Siege and Metro Exodus and Intel says you can expect up to a 20% increase in performance in the latter with APO enabled. That's pretty much backed up by figures from Hardware Unboxed.
Just I upgrade my pc (yesterday) from Ryzen 7 1700x to Ryzen 9 7950x3d and is a difference like night and day. 35467 on Cinebench R23 with the processor stock .
I went to a 14700K from a 9940X... which is really a 7940X (Skylake-X). Yeah, the performance leap was astounding.
Aged like milk. Sorry for your loss.
@@bodasactra LOL I mean.... fair point. On a 14700K now. The performance leap was astounding lmao.
I built a 13700k system on the last Prime day and I like it. It was my first Intel system since a 4790 cpu pc.
I was all Ryzen for 5yrs, I still have the 5800x3d for my gaming pc. (I still own the Intel 4790 cpu system.)
if only Ryzen's iGPUs had a feature rich encoder/decoder block like intel's...
If 7800X3D had 4:2:0, 4:2:2 & 4:4:4 8bit and 10bit H.264, H.265, VP9 and AV1 decoders and encoders it would be BY FAR the best CPU below $500 for video editors that also want play games & and use as little power/wattage as possible
I am running 7900xtx in my media workstation, but sure hoping for an APU or next zen cpu to include all that. I have enough use cases already
I have trouble understanding why NLEs are refusing to address the iGPU features that are there. Ryzen 7000 has the same encoders/decoders as an RDNA2 GPU, but the only software that'll use it is handbrake.
why aren’t you just running it over your gpu?
I'm coming from ryzen 2600 for photo editing for my freelance job. Thinking of and upgrade for video editing and your channel helps me so much since I'm so lost at the recent hardware. Best subscribed ever!
Hey man, amazing content. I plan to buy i7-14700k, can you recommend me which cooling system I should use? AIO or AIR? And if so, which models are best for i7-14700k. I want to avoid my cpu overheating. I play video games and do some hobby work in unreal engine 5.
Just bought one , I'm not this guy lol but you want AIO , air will run pretty hot. Surprisingly though for games it does pretty well on most titles 38-55 across all games. I have a couple year old kraken x62 280mm AIO, used thermal grizzly in kryonaut extreme paste on it . Seems solid. If you have to go air for monetary reasons get a big noctua dh15 for it , use good paste. Should be ok in games but any kind of stress test cinebench etc you will get quite warm , cinebench pushed. Mine to about 83-85c before it settled.
@@brettberry9846 oh awesome. Yea I thought to go with AIO. Is it possible to get 38-55 in cinebench with AIO, or you need custom water cooling for that?
@@nemanjagavrilovic8812 honestly not sure of something that would keep this chip that cool on cinebench they just get warm regardless from the power draw . A 280 or 360mm would be ideal I'd just go with that. Cinebench is only if you care about the scores doesn't mean much for gaming just a thing to do. I bench my systems once then just use em. More out curiosity.
I'm guessing tdp/heat between the 13700 and 14700. The extra p-cores may not play well sharing power with the iGPU and it's crippling GPU stats while giving multicore tasks extra cores (and probably speed). I would guess it was a tuning decision under the assumption that most people using a 14700k will probably have a discrete GPU anyway, so reduced iGPU wouldn't be noticed (not sure how that might affect quicksync encode and decode though, but even the weakest 11th gen quicksync is still super powerful so probably not much). Since only the 14700k got a boost in cores, I could see it also being the SKU that got more tuning attention. Maybe with yields they have a ton of 14700k dies and they want a little extra incentive for people to go 14th gen instead of save a few dollars with a 13700k
I bought this CPU on launch and coming from an i7 6850k, it was worth it to me, but I don't know if it's worth it for creators with "last gen" hardware (12th Gen Intel, 5000 series AMD), This CPU for me feels like a slightly worse 13900k, my synthetic scores are very close to it, while running cooler. Great CPU.
Gonna upgrade to this from my i7 2600
i7 2600? wtf man... ;d
The 13600K is only $270.00 right now on Amazon. Just got 3 of them.
pricing of 14700k are much closer to 7950x then to 7900x with this prices on UK Amazon
Zen 4 prices are pretty good in the UK, glad mobo prices are trickling down aswell
Bro, you released this video today, but I think you made it several days back. Now there is an APO improvement already released for the 14th Gen, and you need to check the benchmarks based on that. There is approximately 20% boost in performance after switching on APO on games and some other productivity softwares, as I heard.
Its an extremely limited release. Its not useful until it applies to a wider range of use cases
APO works on exactly 2 games right now so not really worth it unless you happen to play those 2 games.
What do you think about the bigger latency from intel 12th gen onward?
Still SMASHES AMD
@@tilapiadave3234 We don't talk about that xD I have AMD and it's true. I'm waiting for 15th gen to buy an i7.
After some testing 14th gen seems to be no different for memory from 13th gen. A 'good' 13th gen CPU and good memory seems to be equal and sometimes better than 14th so it's all RNG on that one. For the average "XMP and go" user there is pretty much no difference.
I still disagree with the power limit (or lack thereof) on motherboard thing. In my opinion the default should be spec on creator/workstation motherboards with the option to change that if you want. The fact that you might actually get less performance out of the box because the motherboard defaults can cause throttling even with some AIO's on the 700/900 CPU's is silly especially because a lot of people won't know what the problem is or how to fix it, or even that there is a problem.
My 14700k w/o an undrvolt and power limits would draw up to 260w in some games and get to 93c with a 280mm aio 😂
I mean it didn't throttle....right? Lmao
@@Wawawalulu best of both world there, I've worked on a couple 13700k systems that throttled with 360 AIO's 'out of the box', setting proper power limits generally fixed the issue though.
I really need help, and hoping you or some of your viewers can chime in. I recently got the Gigabyte Z790 Pro X all white motherboard, and want to buy the new Corsair Dominator Titanium Ram, but I never understood single or dual ram memory slots. I’d like to max out the memory, or is that a bad thing to run 4 sticks, and just stick with 2 sticks of 96GB? Thanks
Your numbers for Davinci Resolve seem way lower compared to what Puget Systems got for the 14700k in their testing and you both are using similar test benches and running the exact same test. They found the 14700k beating out the 13900k in the extended, overall, and fusion scores.
Just bought one and delided it. Fantastic cpu and temperature is great when delided
I think it's pretty simple really: whichever is cheapest at the moment.
There seems to be basically no difference in performance even though there are 4 more E-Cores, maybe some BIOS or driver updates can squeeze a bit more, but doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm building a new PC after a loooong time, was looking for the 13700K, but then the 14700K dropped in price for Black Friday bellow the 13th gen, and got that instead
Nice!
I'm about to build a I7-14700k based system, but I am scared about Intel's instability issues now. I only edit occasionally in Davinci Resolve. Will a Ryzen 9 7900x handle that? They will be paired with a RTX 4070TI SUPER and 64Gb RAM
you will be just fine with a ryzen 9 I bought a ryzen 9 7950x from a 12th gen i7 for 350 recently and it works like a champ I wouldn't recommend intel because what if something went wrong than intel wouldn't replace your product.
Not only that but you could get a Ryzen 9 7900x for cheaper now before zen 5 drops so I would recommend it or you can wait to see if zen 5 is faster.
Just get 14700k and lock cores. You’ll have 0 iisues
Hi! I'm planning to get this processor for faster export times in Lightroom Classic. I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600 and exporting 1000 raws from my Nikon Z5 24mp takes 47min to finish. How much of an improvement will I get if I upgrade to 14700k? Need your help and advice because it's either I upgrade my PC or get a Macbook Pro 14. Not doing much Video Editing, just lots of photos in Lightroom Classic.
I initially went to a 13700k from my 8700k, but then saw MIcro Center had the 14700k for only $20 more so I returned the 13 and got the 14.
If 3050 and arc a750 are same price..which one should take for graphics design and 3d animation works.Which will perform better in adobe sofware?
Thanks.
Would it be possible to do another run around XMP @ $ DIMMs on the 14th-gen? An improved IMC should [maybe?] allow for DDR5-6400 with four slots, right?
-bZj
I have 14700KF. It's very stable at all P cores 5,7GHz and all E at 4,5GHz, temperatures are pretty low, performance is great. But I cannot go any further with it, even one core at 5,8 cause crash. I use OC Genie on MSI Z790-A, and probably I need to boost voltage to OC it even more, but im newby in in and I can't figure it out yet.
It looks like 14 gen doesn't need CPU brackets! Mine fit perfectly in the socket, moderate pressure, no bend at all
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Great video as always mate, but I've got an honest question that has really been bugging me, I'd be grateful if you could answer it. I see a lot of difference with the official puget systems benchmarks on their site. There the 14700k beats in every category the 13700k and specifically as a video editor (davinci resolve), the 14700k obliterates in fusion the 13700k on their site, and on every other dr specific benchmark. Why's there such a big difference with your results? I mean I know there can be a sample variation at max 4% between 2 same cpus, but we are talking way more than that. Thank you!
for some reason his results are always different to others, i’m not sure if he isn’t biased at this point
is this a good build?
Case: Antec Performance 1 FT
CPU: Intel Core™ i5-14700K
GPU: ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
Mobo: ASUS Prime Z790-A WiFi 6E
RAM: CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL30
SSD: Samsung 990 PRO Series - 2TB Gen4
PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2
AIO: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360
@Immortal__ so please tell me what to change!
That is a very good build. I have a similar build in my shoppinglist, but with Kingston Fury 2TB Nvme and 5600 CL36 RAM. I mostly use Davinci Resolve so I am considering to step down to i5 13500 to shave off 250 € and only a about 5% perfomance.
use R9 7900 same price
14700k is an i7 not a i5.
7:00 Hindsight 2024, the motherboard defaults damage both 13/14th gen i9 and cause instability. Likewise for some 14th gen i7 depending on your silicon lottery. I currently lowered my PL1 and PL2 on my 14700k to 253/253W and waiting if other people running higher wattage haven't had accelerated degradation.
Hmm. Could it be the unit you had for review that showed Devinchi slower on the 14700?
36200 on stock 14700k, your result seems a bit low, i guess you should change your cooling to something better?
and here am i still using i5 2400 with no issues at all
So, for 33% more power (100w almost) you get 5-10% more performance (and doesn't win every time either) with the 14700K compared to the 7900X. So, what is the price difference as well. Doesn't sound or look like a very good deal to me. It will cost more to run, more to cool, and more heat in my room.
and no shitty AMD latency
❤ ur videos! I used to consider myself "techtarded" now I'm comfortable enough to SPEC out and build my own cpu
Great to hear!
Could you do a review of 14-th Gen non k CPU's when they become available? This 14 generation is very confusing, not much gains and still very power hungry. I am thinking about the non k chips, especially the 14900 as an upgrade. I have the 12400. My friend has the 12600k and also ponders upgrading to the 14900 non k. Basically we wonder if there is an upgrade path without committing to the insane wattages that characterize the 14 gen k chips.
i have a 13600K i' m very pleased with this beast, gonna upgrade on Arrow Lake tho
i have a question i am running i7 6700k and let say i went with the i7 14700k with a asus rog max z790 dark zero mother board not doing any oc with ddr 5 6400mhz with a psu 1000w evga will that setup be ok with out the cpu getting hot
U going to run it at full 100 most the time?
Maybe tell us what cooler you're thinking so your question is coherent 😂
wich is the best/good enough cooler for 13900 k ?
ASUS ROG Ryuo III 240 ARGB is an excellent cooler !
18:00 thats a ton of thermal O.o or dont?
This is pretty much what I've been hearing.
That this is just another refresh of the LGA1700 platform. Oh well!
In my country 13700kf‚ 13700k‚ 14700kf‚ and 7900 (non-X) are pretty much the same price. 14700k and R9 7900x are like 20 USD (converted from local currency) more expensive. So, I guess 14700kf should be the one to go with or the 14700k if the iGPU is needed.
He talks about not buying the kf variant because it doesn't include the iGPU which matters a ton for editing software.
@@musik847.1 most softwares supports dGPU‚ that's why I've said "So‚ I guess 14700kf should be the one to go with or the 14700k if the iGPU is needed".
How you got 33.5k in r23 while I get 36k? No OC
The 14 GEN is not a new GEN it's a refresh. I don't care what intel calls it
Yep
will ddr4 ram make a huge performance difference compared to ddr5 ran ?
in norway 14700k is like 35 usd more expensive than 13700k so for that price i go for 14700k
Call me old-fashioned, but I still hold out with my 18-Core Haswell-EP in 2023. :)
The tiny last gen Ryzen 5 5600X3D using 16GB 3200Mhz DDR4 RAM can match or beat a Ryzen 9 7950X in quite a few games despite it's 32 super fast cores and mega high speed DDR5 RAM. We need more low cost cache loaded CPUs for the pure gamer! Ryzen 5 7600X3D, we need that.
So this review was made six months ago. Does your opinion remain the same?
Can you run 14700K at 6 GHz with Gigabyte Aero G Z790? Thank you.
I upgraded to the 14700k from 13700k a month ago when it became available and have been pleased with the overall results. 3% improvement in single core and 18% improvement in multicore in Cinebench 23. I use it in audio mixing environments and is working superbly. I feel like this is the ideal product in the socket 1700 family with the i9 products pushing the realistic current, clocking and thermal limits a little too hard. Combine that with 4 more E cores and somewhat refined memory timings and you've got the winner, 14700k in my book. I thnk this one will take me a good bit further into the future than previous generational uplifts have.
looks like my i5 13500 after i3 530 will be fine for some time and will upgrade to 14700k if i need to since my msi mag b760 mortar D5 will handle that cpu too easily
only problem with 14700k are that it is on dead motherboard and if you have AM5 or even not it will be fine for Zen5 and 6 too
I know Amd fangirls insist it is impossible to change a motherboard. I run a 7 year Masters degree in changing motherboard and not just putting in new cpu.
I'm looking for a new system and the limited possibilities for upgrading with intel in the future make me look at a 7900X. Then again, it'll most likely be five years from now that I'll be upgrading again and things might have changed so much I'll need a new motherboard anyway.
so you play tetris or super mario bros from early 2000 on your 7 year old mobo and even older cpu @@tilapiadave3234
@@ErikSmitsPhotography The FALACY regarding upgrade paths is AMD soywhimp rubbish. There are Master degree available to change a motherboard ,, just 7 years ,,, SARCASM. it is fairly simple to change a mobo and selling a used cpu and mobo TOGETHER is actually easy
@@ErikSmitsPhotography you wont be 5 years on same cpu especially if you will go with new gen gpus., everybody think same with 5950x and 5900x and now this cpus are simply pointless after 3 years for buying as used or new if you can find them !! 14700k as i see its too much expensive and basically are like 7950x in price but not in performance/productivity and power consumption are double higher then 7950x and for 5 months zen5 comes and 7950x will still have some value so selling it and add some money and buying something like r7 9900x which would have less cores but faster then 7950x will be pretty fine
brother, please a recommendation for a computer for 4k 10 bit video editing. I am between a core i7 13 generation with a 4070 and 32 GB of ram or some mac. maybe mac mini M2 pro or mac studio M2 max 32gb
13700k with 4070ti ;)
@@theTechNotice thxbbro, and motherboard Z690 Asus Pro Art nice !
yea, just bought a 13 gen laptop with a 4070 and a amd 5900x with an 4080, not going to upgrade anytime soon. maybe a late model Amd cpu.
Actually, though I'm glad that the 14700 has good specs and is considered a good chip. However, when comparisons are involved, the machine I am replacing was old, using an i7-2600. So IF I have to compare total throughput, I'm winning even if the 14700 a dog. (The old box started to fall apart; it was time to be merciful and put it out of its misery.)
Please next time also do benchmark for cinema 4d as well cause Ii use c4d not blender, thank-you
C4D is cinebench results :) Check out R23 and R24 scores in this video.
@@theTechNoticeow thank you🙏
i consistently get 35,500+ score on Cinebench R23 with my 14700kf undervolted by 0.150 and power limited/capped to 253W if anyone wants to try that and get a boost because 33,440 that is in this video is way too low.
This is why I keep complaining about the out of the box power defaults on creator motherboards (and in general). Setting in spec power limits can make a noticeable difference in performance when actually taxing the CPU and it isn't throttling.
The 1:05 14700k is the only CPU from 14th gen that you can try to call a "generational upgrade"
yep, kinda!
@@theTechNotice And thats something that I wish was explored more by Intel, even if it is just a pentium change with the 1P+4/6E on laptop. I also wonder how many of their CPUs are binned down like AMD's 5600x3D.
I agree the performance is disappointing and as you said the best outcome of the 14th gen release is that the price of the 13th gen will come down.
hey man i currently have old pc with i7 4790k processor now i am building new pc for davinci and premiere and lil bit of gaming so which one you suggest to buy ( i prefer i7 lineup) i am looking for best performance in least power consumption possible (efficient) thanks! been your sub since long time🙂
13700/13700k and b760/z690 combo could be a good deal now as there's no other upgrade path better next year with lga 1700 socket. 14900k next year will be left in the dust for sure by a core 5 cpu with big node change from intel
It will, but that's expected. Still nice to talk about the current gen though.
I have the 12700K. I am waiting for the 15700K.
Hows the electricity bill bro? Does it hike fast as well?
I still feel this "14th" gen shouldn't be. With the 4th gen, they released a couple updated items, the 4790k and 4690k, that just slightly clocked up the previous 4770k and 4670k. Intel should have done this same thing with these, as the 13950k and 13750k, for example. This "14th" gen really isn't one.
Then again, for this generation, and for gaming, the 7800X3D is still the best bang for the buck.
Bro what is happening with the gpu scores. That doesn’t make sense
Please do overclock performance of 14900k
14700 CPU TDP 300W WAT?
problem is a gaming computer today has to be a content creation tool also that is where the i9 4900k shines
Yep
Didn't you tell us that all the variants ending with K are garbage for creators, was that the "F", "KF", or, is this one something special?
the 'F' is the one to avoid :)
Are there still i3 cpus?
yes, but not 14th gen
whats the point in 3% faster 🤣🤣 thats like you counting your french-fries on your plate.
AV1 HARDWARE ENCODING?
Probably better to wait for amd cpu this January or wait for a year for alderlake.
we all waitting Intel Fukker lake
19:22 Thermal Paste 👀
I almost sold my 13700K to replace it with 14700K 😅
Why would Intel produce such insanely power hungry CPU's that require humongous coolers? Makes no sense to me. Why not give the consumer a normal 80-90 watt CPU or at least a choice of one. A normal 6 or 8 core chip with one or two e-cores. Is this going to be some trend? Numerous cores and ridiculous power draws? I hope not.
12600k is a good pick then :)
Why u use B760 on K version and not use cpu and ram on 100% with BCLK=99.8Mhz and spread spectrum enable?)
Isn't i9 better than i7 in longevity ??
for this gen,no,only 2 in 10 i9s are,which is not surprising, hopefully next gen will be better
14700k are 13700k with 4 more cores and threads and some clock boosts that is it basically but that will not be enough vs zen5 which would come somewhere in april-may 2024
In UK 14th Gen is cheaper than 13th . . . at the moment
Sweet!
14700k was same price as 13700k for me in uk rn. that’s why i got 14, no brainer
price of 14700k are way above of r9 7900x while performance are not so way above and am5 mobo have future in zen5 ,6 upgrading while 14th gen are on dead mobo
if you are incapable of changing a motherboard then maybe you deserve Ryzen :)
I'm looking at the price of 14700k vs 7900x they're pretty much the same within 20 usd on amazon US....
ryzen piss on any Intel cpu., we see how Intel is "good" when they only changed numbers and give some clock boost and nothing else for 12,13,14gen with 2-3x higher consumption!! no wonder their sales of cpu are garbage @@tilapiadave3234
only dumbo pays so much money for cpu obn dead motherboard and for 5 months zen5 will come which would totally piss any I)ntel cpu in everything, even lower ones so r5 9600x will wipe floors with 14900k/ks in gaming !! RIP Intel!! only bad will be that AMD would have again domination and higher prices because of lack of competition @@tilapiadave3234
in UK amazon are 20-25 pounds difference on your links beetween 7950x and 14700k and 120pounds more 14700k costs over 7900x and of course 14700k are on dead mobo and AM5 will be alive for zen5 and 6 @@theTechNotice
This is a great CPU. Like really good. Just buy it and thank me later
AMD will always be the second best bastard child in the house, but they're a good second best bastard child.
obviously you cpu will be fine but your Motherboard will be cooked. it's best to stay under 90c even if you have high end motherboard, 85c For low-mid range motherboards
If aim using air cooled system AMD is the only way to go
Ryzen 7950X time .....
a cpu that will be rekt by new midrange ryzen at the beggining of next year lmao
7900 here.. no regrets...
too silly to know the difference :)
e cores suck, completely pointless and all you do is disable them for better performance. Then you have to lock all cores because boosting hurts performance and as we found out, degrades the CPU. These new CPUs are a mess :/ Just give us all performance cores, all cores locked on a silicon lottery winner with a good mem controller as I'm sick of having to buy about 10 to get one good one and then spending months getting refunds.
I got in a fist-fight and my lip was cut, and I ruined the hoody lol literally wore it twice!! Pfffft. This country has too many woke maniacs prowling the streets :)
I guess I have to get another one now! Lol. Good job they actually look nice or I would be pissed about having to straight away buy a second set. Did enjoy that gold on grey though, probably go for that again.
Flipping heck! I should start selling baseball bats!
@@theTechNotice nah he's a woke maniac that's what he needs me to do... So he can put videos out saying "SEE I TOLD YOU JEWS ARE EVIL" :)
I was wearing a bodycam so he's just getting a little visit from police... And his life is already a wreckage so I do not require any revenge lol.
Seriously this guy, I feel sorry for his wee dog. The dog looks at him like "why am I not holding YOUR lead?". And I know exactly how he feels!
14th Gen is absolute garbage. AMD's lineup is MUCH better and, in my workloads, beats Intel most of the time and if it loses it's by a very little bit. Zen 5 comes next year and can fit in the same socket will completely beat Intel's line up in all benchmarks.
nextorage is belong to SONY
nice!
What a joke, who needs more than 8 e cores? ROFL
More e cores is essentialy useless. Especially for gaming where u wanna disable ecores for maximum performance
Ok………IT’S NOT A 20 core cpu. The “e” cores are not real cores. The only cores that should be counted are the (p)erformance cores. I’m really tired of UA-camrs counting these (e)fficiency cores as real cores. Smoke and Mirrors.
Why would you say the e-cores are not 'real cores'?
same here its shocking how many dont know this. iam sure they are on the payroll or inv3estors pushing this junk. dlss and fsr are also selling points these days lol. more lanes are now an upgrade lol ai stuttering upscaled games are making me stick to my old native dx11 i7 7700k with gtx1080ti ddr4 2 x 32 gb no latency 16pci lanes. i came from consoles to get 1440 native 120fps 144hz to 240hz not to upgrade to downgrade upscaled and off chip multi tasked gAames now the judgement is fps with fsr its a fraud to sell to idiots
Each e-core is roughly the same performance as a i7 7700 core. der8auer already did an e-core video showing this. this ruse that they are not real cores has been debunked long time ago. A shame u people keep spreading these lies
@@mitchmurray2260 Not lies dude and I’m not an “AMD PERSON”. I’m a high end gaming rig builder who builds and tunes both. I can unequivocally tell you that “e” cores are NOT true cores regardless of what Der Bauer says. They are useless for gaming and you said it yourself…….”equivalent” to 7700k CPU. That’s a long way from a 12th, 13th, or 14th gen core. So yeah……….half cores. “E” cores are Intel’s answer to AMD’s core count……….which is all “Performance” cores BTW. If Intel were to manufacture an all “P” core CPU it would burn up faster then space debris entering our atmosphere. Their present architecture cannot support higher core counts and the power draw is ridiculous. From my point of view ………… AMD has surpassed Intel taking all things into consideration. Heat and power draw is killing the present Intel architecture and getting more then 2 gens out of a platform is a must. The AM4 platform will go down in history as one of the best platforms ever. There’s no denying that.
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again, you should delete this video. First at all the 13700k cannot be faster than the 14700k. Do you have a degree in IT? or computer science? man you need to so you can understand proper testing procedures and best practice, and impacts of going one way or another. Your review is wrong.
me rocking a i77700k z260 gtx1080ti NATIVE 4k capable but on average 180fps at 1440 dont want dlss or fsr or upscaling, i came away from console to get away from 1080 60fps upscaling to get into pc gaming. sad how its going backwards, they had to rewrite crysis to work on modern pc cpus and cards WHY? because they cant run it LOL. AAA gaming is not AAA gaming anymore sticking with dx11 on old and not buying console ports at low res . im done with upgrading to a pointless fraud by all these companies .
lol you're so misinformed 😂
Always fun to hear what youtubers have to say, so much filler with 0 correct info on matters.
These new intel i7 processor are 10nm, and apple are 3nm. what your thought on it. should be go for 10nm or 3nm.