I just bought 13900k last week but after seeing this video I think my choice wasn't bad at all, it'd be nice to have 14900k as it has similar price but if you already have 13900k it's perfectly fine
SOLD! Targeting an *_Intel 14th gen 14900k_* now when that price comes down. That was such a close run though with the previous gen effort. But since it's an option it's gotta be the ever-so-slightly quicker 14th gen. Even though I like stuff with 13 on or in the name cuz I am odd like that :D Appreciate it bro! When it's finished I shall go visit the store. I also feel like, the entire disaffected LLT audience will end up over here. This is what he used to wish to be before the Chinese Inquisition took control. The quality in production is similar but you didn't add all that annoying flashing marquee subtitle text and those irritating gimmicks and jump-cuts. This is now the best place for p2p excellence :)
Came across your channel randomly. Glad to see you putting an emphasis on real world editing and testing results. Not enough videos on stuff like this! You got subscribed person here for years to come! Great stuff!
Intel called it "refresh" for a reason and being upfront with that. Props to intel engineers. Screw haters. I got me 14900k and happy I didn't pay $1000 for 13900ks
I am so happy with an i7 13700k, do not need anything else! now if you want to upgrade from an 8th gen or less then yes, you need to! life changer! will render a 4-minute video in 1 minute, not 30 minutes not two hours like back in the core 2 duo days, not like a q6600, not like a i7 4770k, that is ancient now! Thanks bro! great upgrade for the same price as last year's launch!
I'm very happy you show cased the 14900k with the 12900k. Most reviewers only compared it alongside the 13th gen stuff. It seems for me coming from 12th gen to 14th gen is worth it. If I'm lucky I can get around 30-40% the cost of the new 14th Gen by selling my 12th gen.
I was wrong The 13900K with AI overclocking on the Z790 Aorus Master becomes an even more compelling choice. Its significantly lower cost, power consumption, and quieter operation offer remarkable value and efficiency for your 3D rendering and animation work. The AI overclocking can potentially boost performance further without requiring extensive manual tweaking or the risks associated with pushing a higher-TDP CPU to its limits. Its got to be the 13900K
I still believe you should have tested these CPUs with the Multi-Core Enhancement "feature" disabled at BIOS. While it is true that most people don't know about it and hence, they'll just keep it at enabled by default, it is also true that most people don't watch tech reviewers channels before buying a new CPU and I, for one, definitely don't recommend anyone to keep Multicore enhancement enabled because it is essentially overvolting your CPU by making it go above the rated spec, which can significantly reduce the overall lifespan of the CPU.
@Tech Notice Great video i was wondering did you turn off Bit locker when testing? As Windows 11 causing performance issues with SSDs, particularly NVMe SSDs. This issue has been observed in various updates, with some users experiencing significant slowdowns in read and write speeds. Disable BitLocker encryption: If you don't require BitLocker encryption, disabling it can significantly improve SSD performance. However, this will remove the security benefits of encryption. The impact on read speeds is generally less severe, with some benchmarks showing a reduction of around 5-10%. However, the overall impact on SSD performance can still be noticeable, especially for tasks that involve frequent data writes.
Its been about 8 weeks since AMD released the 7800/7700xt gpu's and i still can't find a single review about how it works for creators :( yet intel release new cpus (that seem to do nothing exciting) and get lots of reviews everywhere 😢😢😢
Do any of these tests take into account the Quick Sync capability provided by Intel vs. AMD without it, in using Davinci Resolve? Aspiring video creator here: Per the Puget Systems tests, how significant is it that Davinci Resolve supports so few codecs on the AMD GPUs vs. Intel?
Exploring this subject as a creator proves challenging due to the numerous variables involved. When delving into 3D rendering, the potential power savings on extended renders may be a factor to consider, albeit in specific scenarios. The increased power consumption, with a base power draw (TDP) of 125W, contrasts with the 13900K's 65W TDP. This discrepancy might influence my preference towards the 13900K.
I think for content creators... Mmm. Intel doesn't upgrade the UHD770. This is one of the more important things to look at. More speed in the timeline, that's the point for me.
My 13900K has a relatively weak IMC but can run G.Skill 7200MTs RAM at 7000 on an Asus Z790 Hero (7200 gives single bit errors once every 2 hours on average). So... I expect the 14900K to easily run it at 7200MTs or faster. I'm waiting on the 14900KS to upgrade my 13900K. I'm guessing a January 2024 release.
The main reason for using a contact frame is to improve the cooling performance of the CPU cooler. The contact frame helps to distribute the pressure of the cooler evenly across the CPU, which can help to improve heat transfer and reduce temperatures. This can be especially important for high-performance CPUs like the Core i9-14900K that generate a lot of heat. So if you are using a high-performance CPU like the Core i9-14900K or are experiencing overheating issues, using a contact frame may help to improve cooling performance.
Unfortunately not - because of the China situation. That said when America gets it's own chi fab up and running that will slash prices across the board without affecting US profits. The perfect storm for Chinese companies!! They will lose their advantage!
Pretty much depending on your workload. If I wasn't already running a decent Zen2 system which is realistically still "ok" to use for work - I would be sticking with probably 7800X3D or something instead. But I am backing Intel for this generation as it's less for gaming and mainly as a video station. AMD definitely won the last 2-3 generations of CPU's before this though. Intel maybe able to get their nose in front if they can offer some good January discounts...
7950X3D is still all things considered, amongst the top 3 performance CPU's in my opinion.Even the very top most expensive CPU is not a million miles away from this one given the price/perf ratio. Thought I will be definitely swapping back to Intel on my build this year, that's not because the current AMD did not perform - far from it! Just I require the media engines this time and AMD' are a wee bit behind. Like you say unless you are chasing that final 1-2%, you will not worry about losing such a small slither when it's like £200-300 cheaper or more. I feel like AMD have to work very hard to lose that popular spot in the CPU market. Zen2 and 3 are so damn strong!
Starts from $1500 (24 core / 48 thread) - To be honest, I thought the pricing was going to be worse. Hope the MB will land at a reasonable price as well. For reference, with a bit of luck you can find a "opened - never used" Epyc 74F3 (Zen3 Milan) which has the same cores/threads for around $1500 but then you are stuck with DDR4 and PCIe 4
@@JayzBeerz It's cheap if you look at the server version. I know they are not directly comparable. Well I hope not because that is priced at $11.800 RRP 😅 Downside with the high core count is that your base frequency is quite low - You really need software that scales well to get the most out of that processor
Are you using original test scores on older CPU's? My performance on a 12600K/RTX3080 keeps improving with subsequent releases of Davinci Resolve. My standard score has increased from about 2100 to nearly 2500 over the past 10 months based solely on Davinci upgrades.
Hey, thanks for the reviews as usual, how does this 14900k compare to the ryzen 7950x with these new power limits applied to keep them stable? What cpu would you recommend for a video editing system at the moment, maybe wait a few days and see what happenes with the new amd releases?
@@STKReacts Interesting, yeah the x3d versions are excellent gaming cpus but the 3d v cache isn't great for productivity it seems. Will have 5i see how the new non x3d chips perform for productivity or wait for the new Intels to see if they have sorted out their issues. Hopefully my machine will hold together until then, it's been really struggling.
These are all fine and dandy, but the 13th and 14th gen I9s have reliability issues, so the 12th is still the way to go unless you like replacing CPUs. The 13th gen is a flat out disaster when you factor in the the oxidation issues, on top of the microcode issues. Sure, the 13th and 14th gen I9s are faster, but only until they fail. Those are a waste of money in my book.
Pretty much - it is almost like 14gen is just better binned silicon than 13th, and has a slight bandwidth and memory speeds advantage. So I am coming from older Zen2 AMD APU coupled with 4000mhz RAM on AM4; and going straight up to 14th Gen Intel 14900k with the fastest RAM I can grab. Actually represents great value since I waited a wee bit longer on the AM4.
As a multimedia designer, this is the video I was waiting for. Everyone else is obsessed with gaming benchmarks. I'm upgrading from the 12900KF to the 14900K. I think it will be a nice upgrade.
@heyyyyooooo if my system was setup for AMD, I would go with them. Since this is probably the last intel chip on this platform, I'll probably be up for a new motherboard soon.
@@little_fluffy_clouds In my country 7950x or 7900x are more expensive than when they came out so it is more of a mental thing to not choose them since I'm getting ripped off for something I could've bought 6 months ago for less.
I’m still running 5950X at 5GHz stable, I don’t mind 13900k or 14900k for the right price, but I’m not sure if I even going to see the difference from my 5950X, for multi tasking it is more then enough and even some games are more stress on the GPU and not on CPU, if you want faster windows experience, then you should looks in to Gen 4 NVMe, or raid two NVMe, Gen 5 has issues, I had 990 pro and it died on me, so I had to step back to 980 Pro , works brilliant
@@Atlan_tis990 Pro is Gen 4, not gen 5. Samsung issued a firmware update to fix a 990 Pro issue where the SMART disk health counter was ticking down far too quickly. Mine’s been rock solid after the firmware update in my 7950X + RTX 4090 system.
Any chance we can get a revisiting of four DIMMs at XMP on these new 14th-gen CPUs? Can they run at 6400MT/s with 4 DIMM of the common G.Skill CL32s? 4x16GB or 4x32GB, maybe? -bZj
What if I am adapting my 80GB of DDR3000mhz ? I wonder which CPU runs best with disregard to the memory? (Strictly Photoshop and Lightroom CLassic). Coming from a 6850K
If you are working with other workflows that you have full utilization of CPU the 105watt is by fat too bad as it is not translating in performance in comparison to AMD. Also, video creators are far less than artists, architect and mechanical engineers.
There will always be something better coming. Get what's best now. Period. Either that or you can wait wait wait, I build so often it doesn't matter, I will build a new PC this year and another PC next year more than likely, it's just my hobby. It's what I do 🤣🤣
there is a problem where my games keep on crashing i tried everything changing ram power supply reinstall windows also the driver my gpu is a 4070 and i have intel 14900k idk what to do i searched it is because the cpu can someone help
I love my AMD system, but I don`t have quicksync........can you please look into using intel Arc GPUs as a second GPU for quicksync.......the A580 is looking good to me @ only $180 for quicksync and AV1
Will there be new creator motherboards for the 14900k? I'm curious about any new memory architecture on them that may be a bit more dialed in? What are your thoughts on the matter?
Your data is completely different from other site, how? Do you just invent this data from air? 14900 vs 13900 on blender Is opendata on blender site. Tracking on 7950x better? Are you serious 😂
@@theTechNotice Will you be reviewing the Threadripper 7000 series CPU? Right now I’m debating between i9-14900K or Threadripper. Thanks for the excellent. Videos :)
@@theTechNotice going by the spec sheet for supported xmp and your reasoning for limiting ram clock for each CPU doesn't make too much sense when xmp is already an overclock in of itself. And then saying 14th gen probably has better IMC compared to 13th (which is most likely true) defeats the purpose of going off supported on the spec sheet. For example, the 12900k can definitely still run 6000 xmp the kit intended. Throwing in a variable like that was just silly to me because better silicon for IMC is more about the threshold of its highest manual overclock and artificially limiting supported xmp of the ram kit to separate the tested CPUs against each other isn't the right way to get that point across. I see what you were trying to do and the data probably wouldn't get skewed too much if you kept the same XMP for each CPU, i just thought it was kind of silly to do
Basically the same cpu with a new name. The latest 13900k chips would be running the same improved 10nM process node, so it's just a marketing boost to fill the gap while the next gen socket is released
Man i don't want bother you but... like all you deep testing because they are mostly in the "content creation" area than the "gaming" (i hate those invasive YT videos about gaming computers). But because of that (content creation) you always forget the "music creation" that is a big part of the "content creation" (what are videos or a 3D animation without music?!?). ANNNDDD... is a very "mission critical" part of the "content creation"... expecially about the NIGHTMARE of all the "computer musician": realtime latency using VST's (both instruments and efxs) bith in the recording process and the post-prod mixing process. I know that LATENCY is a multi-variable parameter (it depends from cpu, ram, i/o ports if it is USB, thunderbolt, or a pcie board, and the software DAW, VST optimization, audio interface used) BUT as other many test you do you can "set" a testing platform (RME is a very good standard to chose about audio interfaces and maybe Reaper or Cubase a good standard about software DAW) and you can cover this very important area of the pc "content creation". As a hint i can say that in this area the single-core power and the P-core power are the most important (i.e. the i9 14900k with the 6Ghz single core power seems to be the best nowdays!). Just my 50cents for you channel (that i love and follow anyway, couse i'm interested in 2D, 3D and video editing too!)
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Testing two cpus at the same ram speeds will not show memory controller differences, it will just show core scaling differences. They make those specs so that even if you have a bottom 1% cpu or a cheap motherboard, you won't complain to them. For the most part you can run 7200 easily (with two sticks) on 13th gen with a decent motherboard, or 6400 if you have a cheaper motherboard. If you have an expensive motherboard with 2 dimm slots you should be able to run 7600 on a 13th gen cpu. 14900k could be on average 200mhz better similar to the 13900ks.
Amazing how we have been strung along for decades with this tech, when all of it, even the refinements and what we have zero access to , even in thought has been held back from the public.
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Good news: 13th gen price cuts
nope
10 € difference here :s
Actually they’re more expensive than the 14900k now lol
I just bought 13900k last week but after seeing this video I think my choice wasn't bad at all, it'd be nice to have 14900k as it has similar price but if you already have 13900k it's perfectly fine
More than fine if you got it for less than retail.
overclock it and get that same performance!
@@SniperWolf2024 exactly
SOLD! Targeting an *_Intel 14th gen 14900k_* now when that price comes down. That was such a close run though with the previous gen effort. But since it's an option it's gotta be the ever-so-slightly quicker 14th gen.
Even though I like stuff with 13 on or in the name cuz I am odd like that :D Appreciate it bro! When it's finished I shall go visit the store. I also feel like, the entire disaffected LLT audience will end up over here. This is what he used to wish to be before the Chinese Inquisition took control.
The quality in production is similar but you didn't add all that annoying flashing marquee subtitle text and those irritating gimmicks and jump-cuts. This is now the best place for p2p excellence :)
Came across your channel randomly. Glad to see you putting an emphasis on real world editing and testing results. Not enough videos on stuff like this! You got subscribed person here for years to come! Great stuff!
His data are fake
Thanks for including the 12900k.
Intel called it "refresh" for a reason and being upfront with that. Props to intel engineers. Screw haters. I got me 14900k and happy I didn't pay $1000 for 13900ks
I am so happy with an i7 13700k, do not need anything else! now if you want to upgrade from an 8th gen or less then yes, you need to! life changer! will render a 4-minute video in 1 minute, not 30 minutes not two hours like back in the core 2 duo days, not like a q6600, not like a i7 4770k, that is ancient now! Thanks bro! great upgrade for the same price as last year's launch!
@ZinayH mannnn I can’t wait to leave the haswell platform lol luckily I never encountered any of the issues with the cpu!
@@pilau I never did other. I just got some bad motherboards.
I'm very happy you show cased the 14900k with the 12900k. Most reviewers only compared it alongside the 13th gen stuff.
It seems for me coming from 12th gen to 14th gen is worth it.
If I'm lucky I can get around 30-40% the cost of the new 14th Gen by selling my 12th gen.
Not if you are a true pro.. or a real paid youtuber!
Basically the same as you jump from gen 12 to gen 13, with extra 2% performance that you could get with 13 gen OC
I'd say hold it until 15 gen release as it has the same socket
I was wrong The 13900K with AI overclocking on the Z790 Aorus Master becomes an even more compelling choice. Its significantly lower cost, power consumption, and quieter operation offer remarkable value and efficiency for your 3D rendering and animation work. The AI overclocking can potentially boost performance further without requiring extensive manual tweaking or the risks associated with pushing a higher-TDP CPU to its limits. Its got to be the 13900K
INTEL 14900k - 350 watts 😂
Threadripper 96 core 350 watts
I still believe you should have tested these CPUs with the Multi-Core Enhancement "feature" disabled at BIOS. While it is true that most people don't know about it and hence, they'll just keep it at enabled by default, it is also true that most people don't watch tech reviewers channels before buying a new CPU and I, for one, definitely don't recommend anyone to keep Multicore enhancement enabled because it is essentially overvolting your CPU by making it go above the rated spec, which can significantly reduce the overall lifespan of the CPU.
will it still overvolt the CPU if i manually set the voltage?
I'm glad I recently got the 13900k.
AMD announcing new Threadrippers after the 14th gen launch is awesome and hilarious! Can not wait!
That is odd that you got so little from the ram
I can do 6600 and that is with 4x16GB c32
I prefer 6400 cl32 and tight timings, though
Please make a video on 14600K Premiere Pro timeline performance...
Have a look at the 13600k performance and that's it :)
Thank you for including 12th gen data.
@Tech Notice Great video i was wondering did you turn off Bit locker when testing? As Windows 11 causing performance issues with SSDs, particularly NVMe SSDs. This issue has been observed in various updates, with some users experiencing significant slowdowns in read and write speeds. Disable BitLocker encryption: If you don't require BitLocker encryption, disabling it can significantly improve SSD performance. However, this will remove the security benefits of encryption. The impact on read speeds is generally less severe, with some benchmarks showing a reduction of around 5-10%. However, the overall impact on SSD performance can still be noticeable, especially for tasks that involve frequent data writes.
What would you say about the new AMD threadripper pro 96 cores and is it worth upgrading comparing them to ryzen and intel chips?
Its been about 8 weeks since AMD released the 7800/7700xt gpu's and i still can't find a single review about how it works for creators :( yet intel release new cpus (that seem to do nothing exciting) and get lots of reviews everywhere 😢😢😢
Do any of these tests take into account the Quick Sync capability provided by Intel vs. AMD without it, in using Davinci Resolve? Aspiring video creator here: Per the Puget Systems tests, how significant is it that Davinci Resolve supports so few codecs on the AMD GPUs vs. Intel?
The thing is , right now the 14700 is for almost all purposes at striking distance of the 13900 , while costing some 150-170 less.
So weird the architecture didn't change one bit. Just another intel chip requiring a small nuclear plant to power.
I like your bit less of a taunting approach to this generation compared to other channels i watch.
Flash git, this last month or so of videos has been _proper flexin'_ the old creative muscles. Appreciate the effort, v impressive as ever 😎🤞
Do you still need to buy the thermal grizzly thermal guard metal piece for 14th gen ?
Exploring this subject as a creator proves challenging due to the numerous variables involved. When delving into 3D rendering, the potential power savings on extended renders may be a factor to consider, albeit in specific scenarios. The increased power consumption, with a base power draw (TDP) of 125W, contrasts with the 13900K's 65W TDP. This discrepancy might influence my preference towards the 13900K.
Same as 13th
I think for content creators... Mmm. Intel doesn't upgrade the UHD770. This is one of the more important things to look at. More speed in the timeline, that's the point for me.
Your music is louder than your voice my dear man :P Still the greatest Intel release xD
We need the overclock performance of 14900k
My 13900K has a relatively weak IMC but can run G.Skill 7200MTs RAM at 7000 on an Asus Z790 Hero (7200 gives single bit errors once every 2 hours on average). So... I expect the 14900K to easily run it at 7200MTs or faster. I'm waiting on the 14900KS to upgrade my 13900K. I'm guessing a January 2024 release.
Would you still recommend a contact frame with the 14th Gen?
The main reason for using a contact frame is to improve the cooling performance of the CPU cooler. The contact frame helps to distribute the pressure of the cooler evenly across the CPU, which can help to improve heat transfer and reduce temperatures. This can be especially important for high-performance CPUs like the Core i9-14900K that generate a lot of heat. So if you are using a high-performance CPU like the Core i9-14900K or are experiencing overheating issues, using a contact frame may help to improve cooling performance.
I wouldn't hold my breath on those price drops
Unfortunately not - because of the China situation. That said when America gets it's own chi fab up and running that will slash prices across the board without affecting US profits. The perfect storm for Chinese companies!! They will lose their advantage!
How about the i9-13900KS - is that actually still faster than the new 14th gen? untill they bring out a special edition of that of course...
So AMD has the Performance/Watt Crown
Pretty much depending on your workload. If I wasn't already running a decent Zen2 system which is realistically still "ok" to use for work - I would be sticking with probably 7800X3D or something instead.
But I am backing Intel for this generation as it's less for gaming and mainly as a video station. AMD definitely won the last 2-3 generations of CPU's before this though.
Intel maybe able to get their nose in front if they can offer some good January discounts...
There should be some real discounts next year close to zen5 release if u decide to stay on intel tho 😊
great review bro!
What would be your opinion on the 14700k, would the extra 4 ecores justify the extra price?
my 7950x 3d works just fine , i see no reason to worry over small numbers .
7950X3D is still all things considered, amongst the top 3 performance CPU's in my opinion.Even the very top most expensive CPU is not a million miles away from this one given the price/perf ratio.
Thought I will be definitely swapping back to Intel on my build this year, that's not because the current AMD did not perform - far from it! Just I require the media engines this time and AMD' are a wee bit behind.
Like you say unless you are chasing that final 1-2%, you will not worry about losing such a small slither when it's like £200-300 cheaper or more. I feel like AMD have to work very hard to lose that popular spot in the CPU market. Zen2 and 3 are so damn strong!
@@DailyCorvidrumors said about ryzens 8000 q1 24 maybe consider that?
This is a refresh so no upgrade from 13th Gen IMO.
I got a 12900 so it seems the discounted 13900K is a much better option than the 14900K
Have similar 12900KF, I feel it does everything I need. Can still cool on air comfortably. I feel some upgrades would have to go AIO perhaps also.
i have 13600K currently (only gaming) i have hopes for Arrow Lake, i don' wanna switch to AMD😊
AMD 7th Gen HEDT is what I can’t wait for. They gonna be expensive though.
Starts from $1500 (24 core / 48 thread) - To be honest, I thought the pricing was going to be worse.
Hope the MB will land at a reasonable price as well.
For reference, with a bit of luck you can find a "opened - never used" Epyc 74F3 (Zen3 Milan) which has the same cores/threads for around $1500 but then you are stuck with DDR4 and PCIe 4
@@Hansen999 the pro with 96 cores and 192 threads is going for $4,999.99. WOW!
@@JayzBeerz It's cheap if you look at the server version. I know they are not directly comparable. Well I hope not because that is priced at $11.800 RRP 😅
Downside with the high core count is that your base frequency is quite low - You really need software that scales well to get the most out of that processor
I just bought a i9-14900kf, it was actually cheaper than the 13th gen. That's the only reason I did it.
13 th gen is not compatible with the upcoming thunderbolt 5. you need to have the 14900k along with a thunderbolt 5 compatible motherboard.
Are you using original test scores on older CPU's? My performance on a 12600K/RTX3080 keeps improving with subsequent releases of Davinci Resolve. My standard score has increased from about 2100 to nearly 2500 over the past 10 months based solely on Davinci upgrades.
Hey, thanks for the reviews as usual, how does this 14900k compare to the ryzen 7950x with these new power limits applied to keep them stable? What cpu would you recommend for a video editing system at the moment, maybe wait a few days and see what happenes with the new amd releases?
I had a 13900k and I had issues with it so I went with 7950x3d but I feel like it’s slower in Davinci rendering and playback feels stuttery
@@STKReacts Interesting, yeah the x3d versions are excellent gaming cpus but the 3d v cache isn't great for productivity it seems. Will have 5i see how the new non x3d chips perform for productivity or wait for the new Intels to see if they have sorted out their issues. Hopefully my machine will hold together until then, it's been really struggling.
These are all fine and dandy, but the 13th and 14th gen I9s have reliability issues, so the 12th is still the way to go unless you like replacing CPUs. The 13th gen is a flat out disaster when you factor in the the oxidation issues, on top of the microcode issues. Sure, the 13th and 14th gen I9s are faster, but only until they fail. Those are a waste of money in my book.
13400f or ryzen 5 7600 paired with 3060 ti.. or 4060 ,, which one will be better for editing and gaming ? tell me ur suggetions.
waiting for the 14700k review 😎
I skipped from the 10900h to the 14900k. I will never buy a CPU without an iGPU.
So 14800k and 13800k are the same cpu
Pretty much - it is almost like 14gen is just better binned silicon than 13th, and has a slight bandwidth and memory speeds advantage. So I am coming from older Zen2 AMD APU coupled with 4000mhz RAM on AM4; and going straight up to 14th Gen Intel 14900k with the fastest RAM I can grab.
Actually represents great value since I waited a wee bit longer on the AM4.
Batman approves the 14900K 👍🏻
increase of the power for 14th gen is just as samll as Price differents between 12 3th and 14th
Just came from microcenter all i9 13900k are sold out, only i9 14900k and i9 12900k are in stocks🤦🏻♂️
In Poland 13700K costs a little bit less now than what I payed for 13600K one year ago 😅
As a multimedia designer, this is the video I was waiting for. Everyone else is obsessed with gaming benchmarks. I'm upgrading from the 12900KF to the 14900K. I think it will be a nice upgrade.
İ think bad amd more strong
@heyyyyooooo if my system was setup for AMD, I would go with them. Since this is probably the last intel chip on this platform, I'll probably be up for a new motherboard soon.
can you keep the same motherboard?
@gosman949 more than likely intel's next generation will require a new motherboard.
@@SooksVI then that is the one to wait for. I thought it was going to be this year.
So if you had to choose good am5 mobo and a midrange chip to wait until 8950x or go all out on 14th gen, what would you choose?
lol , 13900K and 14900k and 7950X are still a space rocket , no idea where you would use it at that max capabilities 😅
No reason to wait. 7800X3D for gaming or 7950X for content creation are the best options, just go for it
@@little_fluffy_clouds In my country 7950x or 7900x are more expensive than when they came out so it is more of a mental thing to not choose them since I'm getting ripped off for something I could've bought 6 months ago for less.
I’m still running 5950X at 5GHz stable, I don’t mind 13900k or 14900k for the right price, but I’m not sure if I even going to see the difference from my 5950X, for multi tasking it is more then enough and even some games are more stress on the GPU and not on CPU, if you want faster windows experience, then you should looks in to Gen 4 NVMe, or raid two NVMe, Gen 5 has issues, I had 990 pro and it died on me, so I had to step back to 980 Pro , works brilliant
@@Atlan_tis990 Pro is Gen 4, not gen 5. Samsung issued a firmware update to fix a 990 Pro issue where the SMART disk health counter was ticking down far too quickly. Mine’s been rock solid after the firmware update in my 7950X + RTX 4090 system.
Any chance we can get a revisiting of four DIMMs at XMP on these new 14th-gen CPUs? Can they run at 6400MT/s with 4 DIMM of the common G.Skill CL32s? 4x16GB or 4x32GB, maybe?
-bZj
I would have much more preferred 10 or 12 p-cores at lower frequencies for better overall responsiveness than all the garbage e-cores.
What if I am adapting my 80GB of DDR3000mhz ? I wonder which CPU runs best with disregard to the memory? (Strictly Photoshop and Lightroom CLassic). Coming from a 6850K
14900k is the best overall procedsor in the market...nothing can do both gaming and productivity as good as the 14900k
If you are working with other workflows that you have full utilization of CPU the 105watt is by fat too bad as it is not translating in performance in comparison to AMD. Also, video creators are far less than artists, architect and mechanical engineers.
There will always be something better coming. Get what's best now. Period. Either that or you can wait wait wait, I build so often it doesn't matter, I will build a new PC this year and another PC next year more than likely, it's just my hobby. It's what I do 🤣🤣
Is it better than 7950x 3d? In rendering/editing etc
for gaming 3 to 5 fps more with 14900k than 13900k
there is a problem where my games keep on crashing i tried everything changing ram power supply reinstall windows also the driver my gpu is a 4070 and i have intel 14900k idk what to do i searched it is because the cpu can someone help
I love my AMD system, but I don`t have quicksync........can you please look into using intel Arc GPUs as a second GPU for quicksync.......the A580 is looking good to me @ only $180 for quicksync and AV1
I have 5800x and RTX3070.......will adding the A580 help?
Will there be new creator motherboards for the 14900k? I'm curious about any new memory architecture on them that may be a bit more dialed in? What are your thoughts on the matter?
Yes 790E boards. WiFi 7 and higher RAM speeds.
@@JayzBeerz and faster USB outputs!
Which generation CPU will require a new motherboard?
Your data is completely different from other site, how? Do you just invent this data from air?
14900 vs 13900 on blender Is opendata on blender site. Tracking on 7950x better? Are you serious 😂
I bought the Windows Key but I didn't receive the code! Can you suggest any way to resolve 😢
contact their support, sometimes it takes some time to see the code on your purchase orders :)
Nice new editing
I'm curious, does the 14900k run as hot as a 13900k?
At least as hot 🔥
What’s the Best Value CPU ? ( Price-to-Performance ) Which CPU checks all the Boxes ?
How does this compare to the upcoming THREADRIPPER 7000 Series ?
Who knows.... 😇
@@theTechNotice Will you be reviewing the Threadripper 7000 series CPU? Right now I’m debating between i9-14900K or Threadripper. Thanks for the excellent. Videos :)
I'm good with my 13700k
My R9 7900X gets 126 single core and 1728 multi core on R24
Your reasonings for ram testing memory that way for the different CPUs is kind of silly
Could you unpack that comment for me?
@@theTechNotice going by the spec sheet for supported xmp and your reasoning for limiting ram clock for each CPU doesn't make too much sense when xmp is already an overclock in of itself. And then saying 14th gen probably has better IMC compared to 13th (which is most likely true) defeats the purpose of going off supported on the spec sheet. For example, the 12900k can definitely still run 6000 xmp the kit intended. Throwing in a variable like that was just silly to me because better silicon for IMC is more about the threshold of its highest manual overclock and artificially limiting supported xmp of the ram kit to separate the tested CPUs against each other isn't the right way to get that point across. I see what you were trying to do and the data probably wouldn't get skewed too much if you kept the same XMP for each CPU, i just thought it was kind of silly to do
Woohooo new video 🕺🪩
Basically the same cpu with a new name. The latest 13900k chips would be running the same improved 10nM process node, so it's just a marketing boost to fill the gap while the next gen socket is released
Planning for a 13600k, hoping for 13700k to drop down with the release of 14th gen
Edit: just checked the prices here, it went up 💀
7800x3d is falling in price xD
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 yeah, idk which one is better in productivity but I'm leaning towards 13700k because it has a cheaper platform for now
Man i don't want bother you but... like all you deep testing because they are mostly in the "content creation" area than the "gaming" (i hate those invasive YT videos about gaming computers).
But because of that (content creation) you always forget the "music creation" that is a big part of the "content creation" (what are videos or a 3D animation without music?!?).
ANNNDDD... is a very "mission critical" part of the "content creation"... expecially about the NIGHTMARE of all the "computer musician": realtime latency using VST's (both instruments and efxs) bith in the recording process and the post-prod mixing process.
I know that LATENCY is a multi-variable parameter (it depends from cpu, ram, i/o ports if it is USB, thunderbolt, or a pcie board, and the software DAW, VST optimization, audio interface used) BUT as other many test you do you can "set" a testing platform (RME is a very good standard to chose about audio interfaces and maybe Reaper or Cubase a good standard about software DAW) and you can cover this very important area of the pc "content creation".
As a hint i can say that in this area the single-core power and the P-core power are the most important (i.e. the i9 14900k with the 6Ghz single core power seems to be the best nowdays!).
Just my 50cents for you channel (that i love and follow anyway, couse i'm interested in 2D, 3D and video editing too!)
new same
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I'm preparing to build one, are my interpretations correct?
i9-14900K - Memory Specifications,
- Max Memory Size 192 GB
- Memory Types Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s, Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s
🔴 So max for i9 14900K is DDR5 5600 OR DDR4 3200 ?
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🟩 Music Production Computer
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⚫ First System DDR-5 (Mobo limit 7600-CPU 5600)
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⚫ Mobo 01 = 192 GB, Max DDR5-7600 {= 259 EU =},
GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX socket 1700 (Thunderbolt 1)
max 192 GB RAM, PCIe 5.0 x16, PCIe 4.0 x16, PCIe 3.0 x16 - 6x SATA3, 4x M2,
4x USB-A 2.0, 3x USB-A 3.2 (5 Gbit/s), 2x USB-A 3.2 (10 Gbit/s), 1x USB-C 3.2 (10 Gbit/s)
⚫ Ram 01 = 96 GB (= 286 EU =) Trident Z5 NEO RGB, EXPO
G.Skill 96 GB DDR5-5600 Kit, 40-40-40-89 At 5600 MHz, 2x 48 GB DDR5-5600
🟥 Physical clock speed = 2800 MHz
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🟢 Second System option DDR-5 (Mobo limit 7600-CPU 5600)
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🟢 Mobo 02 = 128 GB, Max DDR5-7600 {= 219 EU =},
GIGABYTE Z790 GAMING X socket 1700 (Thunderbolt 1)
max 128 GB RAM, PCIe 5.0 x16, 2x PCIe 3.0 x16 - 6x SATA3, 4x M2,
4x USB-A 2.0, 3x USB-A 3.2 (5 Gbit/s), 2x USB-A 3.2 (10 Gbit/s), 2x USB-C 3.2 (10 Gbit/s)
🟢 Ram 02 = 64 GB (= 197 EU =) Vengeance, XMP
Corsair 64 GB DDR5-5600 Kit, 40-40-40-77 At 5600 MHz, 2x 32 GB DDR5-5600
🟥 Physical clock speed = 2800 MHz
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🟪 Third System option DDR-4 (Mobo Limit 5300-CPU then limits it to 3200)
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🟪 Mobo DDR4 Z790 = 128 GB, Max DDR4-5300+ {= 209 EU =}
MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 socket 1700 (NO Thunderbolt)
max 128 GB RAM, PCIe 5.0 x16, PCIe 4.0 x16, PCIe 3.0 x1, 6x SATA, 4x M2
4x USB-A 2.0, 2x USB-A 3.2 (5 Gbit/s), 1x USB-A 3.2 (10 Gbit/s), 1x USB-C 3.2 (20 Gbit/s)
🟪 Ram 05-A = 64 GB (= 168 EU =) Beast RGB (2x 128 GB = 336)
Kingston FURY 64 GB DDR4-3200 Kit, CL16 20-20 (2x 32 GB)
🟥 Physical clock speed = 1600 MHz
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⚫ Option 1 = 545 EU = 96 GB DDR5-5600, GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX (1x PCIe 4.0 x16 Extra)
🟢 Option 2 = 416 EU = 64 GB DDR5-5600, GIGABYTE Z790 GAMING X (1x USB-C 3.2 Extra)
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Intel has itself a pig in lipstick. This is eleventh gen all over again, only worse.
BRO HOW DO I PAY YOU I BEEN ASKING YOU THIS FOR OVER 2 YEARS :D LOL!!!!
I can't find your store or Patreon or anything to throw you some dollars...
Take my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hah
- found ya It's time.... you Noticed lol
I went for a Hoody and a Tshirt in sports grey, along with a little kickback for yourself as a thankyou Christmas extra 👍
I will review these two things on my channel too in January! See how you stack up against the other stuff I have lol it's tshirt war! I feel you definitely have LTT beat their merch is too garish for me, I much prefer the subtle approach. So I finally got you your $$$ after saying for 2 years I will throw you a bone .
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Could you tell I am Jewish LOL A couple of gold coins two years in the making. I will twiddly my curly locks whilst I consider your product, and say Oy Vey Oy Vey 🤣🤣🤣
You need a die ram... your speeds suck, you probably have m die.
In late 2024, Intel's Arrow Lake will use TSMC's 3nm node and will crush AMD into the ground.
Testing two cpus at the same ram speeds will not show memory controller differences, it will just show core scaling differences. They make those specs so that even if you have a bottom 1% cpu or a cheap motherboard, you won't complain to them. For the most part you can run 7200 easily (with two sticks) on 13th gen with a decent motherboard, or 6400 if you have a cheaper motherboard. If you have an expensive motherboard with 2 dimm slots you should be able to run 7600 on a 13th gen cpu. 14900k could be on average 200mhz better similar to the 13900ks.
Amazing how we have been strung along for decades with this tech, when all of it, even the refinements and what we have zero access to , even in thought has been held back from the public.
Zed mother boards? Is this a newer or different version from the z700 series?
I just found a deal on Amazon on the Dell 8960 with last Gen 13 I7 for $1300. $600 off becausse it's last gen . I can't wait to play on it.