@@edwardnashen5960 That’s such a good question. I’m guessing they only paid for her for exactly what would cover her travel, room, and food for publicity trips around the world and very little profit.
Until March 1973, Joan Crawford was paid $ 50,000.00 a year in salary, plus a private secretary and the use of a jet plane provided by Pepsi Cola. When she had retirement forced upon her, she retained the $ 50,000.00 a year as her retirement. She lost her private secretary and the use of a jet plane.
Perhaps see it as instead of her being this faded star, how about see it as the motivational story of an actress who loved her career so much that she took whatever role she could so she could keep doing what she loved. Im not a fan of her life outside of acting as I believe she was a rather nasty woman but I don’t think we should pity her for this role and rather respect her for Plowing through
Dusty Blue: You make a very good point. She loved what she did and she was a survivor. When you really look into it, her later years weren't that bad at all.
Casting Joan in a "B" movie like this is like taking a beautifully preserved classic car, and modifying it with 26 inch rims, donked-out interior, and a rattle can paint job.
She never learned to handle money wisely and despite Alfred Steele's success in making Pepsi Cola competitive with Coca Cola, he was even more foolish in handling his personal finances as Joan. When he died in April 1959, he left Joan with debts she had to pay for, including the home that Louis B. Mayer bought for her in 1929.
I just looked it up, and St. Joan of Brentwood got $50,000.00 for Trog. In '70, the most expensive Cadillacs and Lincolns were around seven thousand. Lincoln doesn't really make fine cars, anymore. But the most expensive version of the Continental, is $64,000, today - roughly nine times the 1970 price. So, Joan got, adjusted for inflation, about $450,000.00 for doing Trog. Not bad, really...
Either way a pretty nice paycheck. Jennifer Lawrence only only $250,000 for the first hunger games and even though she wasn't an established star yet, it was still a multi-million dollar production.
Jennifer Lawrence can't hold a candle to Miss Joan Crawford. Also Jennifer Lawrence's attitude and treatment of fans is absolutely deplorable while Crawford always had time for a fan and appreciated her fans support.
$450,000 for trog? and she dressed in an old van? and had to get a cab from the airport because the budget wouldn't allow? that amount sounds very iffy to me.
ALL of which had better production values than Trog. Joan (rhymes with Groan) didn't even read the script. She only saw the salary and the title. I LOVED Trog. When I was 8.
For a major Hollywood Queen Bee, doing TV movies would be tantamount to TV stars doing porn in the millennium. Unlike today where BOTH are shrugged off.
@@infonut quite a few movie stars had careers in TV when older. Robert Young. Joan Blondell Eve Arden Lucille Ball Doris Day. Joan did The Lucy Show and Night Gallery Bette Davis did Perry Mason and It Takes a Thief etc. So they did do some TV work
It is so sad. Even if Joan crawfords roles had become a joke and her work was scarce. She should have still been treated as a Hollywood legend. I mean she is Mildred pierce for Christ sake! The same woman who was in films in 1925! The same woman who had every man in Hollywood lusting over her. And here she is washing in a sink in a bathroom and changing in a camper van. Makes me angry :( RIP Queen Crawford
Trog was not that bad of a film. And many stars, especially those doing independent films find themselves dressing in cars and vans. Some established stars like Ben Afflect say they sometimes do independent films for almost no salary and no private dressing room just for the chance of acting in a superior script.
sad for joan she should have went after more tv roles like a night time soap etc... really if betty davis was working in the 70's on tv why not joan. yes I know she did night gallery and ensight but so few
@@billhoskoformayorofsaintpa1295 Good grief! Do you think she would have accepted making this film under such shabby conditions were she not desperate for money. Making this movie, "TROG," for God's sake, was a definite low point in her career regardless of how well she might have been paid. You must know nothing about Hollywood or her career.
All these different points of view of Joan Crawford, ultimately she was a complex but this feels this was the personal Joan she didn’t share with the world. as much as I love the clips, Where can I watch the full series?
@@MrClassic-wm2yc Did you even watch Bette and Joan ? Are you familiar with the Golden Age of Hollywood or Crawford and Davis's treatment ? If you do but can't see how an industry dominated by rich men between the SO VERY sex equality oriented 1920s and 1970s affected the lives of those actresses and pushed for their downfall then you are tone deaf. The real toxicity is not acknowledging the power dynamics, displays of domination and trying to ignore them. You are part of the problem.
i know this series took HUGE LIBERTIES on the truth of crawford and davis, but at least in this particular point of the making of "TROG" did crawford really REALLY not have a dressing room? did she really have to wash and change in a broken down van? i find that very very very hard to believe...
I keep flashing back to Mommie Dearest when she's on her hands and knees, scrubbing the floor and all pissed off and squawking at Helga, "WHEN YOU SCRUB THE FLOOR, YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE PLANT!" Geez Louise, that British limeyvan is filthy. Bet it's full of dried up scone crumbs and old tea bags too. Poor thing has a lot of scrubbing to do.
Poor Joan wanted this to be a more serious film instead of the campy thing it turned out to be. I doubt she would have signed contract if she knew. Probably would have resorted to playing a grandmother in something more dignified.
I love Joan Crawford, but, I feel she held on to her film career for way too long. Katharine Hepburn once said that (during this period of time) she stayed away from doing any Hollywood films because the script (all too often) called for her to be "swinging an axe." Katharine turned to Broadway plays with great success. Given the estate that Joan left, I really don't think that lack of money was any real issue for her - although, I do get it that some folks feel "poor" (for whatever reason) when they are not.
I hate this scene. How could they do that to her. Her acting was brilliant as usual but the film itself was garbage. Clearly, nothing like how they pitched the project to her to get her to do it.
"He has no hair on his arms or his legs...." Yeah... the first thing I noticed, too! Youd' think even an inbecile could cast a hairy actor to play a neanderthal man.
Jessica is outstanding as Joan Crawford.
The absolute disrespect this woman received time and time again is astounding.
It is awful. The woman should have retired, but I guess she needed the money. Where did money from Pepsi fit in?
@@edwardnashen5960 That’s such a good question. I’m guessing they only paid for her for exactly what would cover her travel, room, and food for publicity trips around the world and very little profit.
Until March 1973, Joan Crawford was paid $ 50,000.00 a year in salary, plus a private secretary and the use of a jet plane provided by Pepsi Cola. When she had retirement forced upon her, she retained the $ 50,000.00 a year as her retirement. She lost her private secretary and the use of a jet plane.
Joan Crawford is and will always be a STAR.
This just broke my heart!
Sad way to end a decades long, illustrious career.
Oh, but what a career!
EagleRockers ...my mouth fell open
Perhaps see it as instead of her being this faded star, how about see it as the motivational story of an actress who loved her career so much that she took whatever role she could so she could keep doing what she loved.
Im not a fan of her life outside of acting as I believe she was a rather nasty woman but I don’t think we should pity her for this role and rather respect her for Plowing through
Dusty Blue: You make a very good point. She loved what she did and she was a survivor. When you really look into it, her later years weren't that bad at all.
My favourite tv show in years!!!
Casting Joan in a "B" movie like this is like taking a beautifully preserved classic car, and modifying it with 26 inch rims, donked-out interior, and a rattle can paint job.
Did you really use a car as a comparison to a lady? Wow I'm sure you didn't mean it like that.
She should have turned it down. I agree how the industry treated her was despicable in the last years.
Joan was beyond "rattled".
@@wmmricvawmmricva8917 .. When you blow your money on needless luxuries and ridiculous waste than this result is not only expected, it's entertaining.
She never learned to handle money wisely and despite Alfred Steele's success in making Pepsi Cola competitive with Coca Cola, he was even more foolish in handling his personal finances as Joan. When he died in April 1959, he left Joan with debts she had to pay for, including the home that Louis B. Mayer bought for her in 1929.
I'm surprised she didn't turn around and fly back home to Los Angeles.
She was living in New York at that time
She's a professional. In a league of her own.
...She in fact needed the money, so leaving wasn't an option.
She signed a contact. Shes a pro.
she was always positive ( except around children)
Jessica Lange nailed it!
For what Trog is, it’s actually a pretty good movie. Joan Crawford made it that way.
What the ???
I love how this show looks
I just looked it up, and St. Joan of Brentwood got $50,000.00 for Trog. In '70, the most expensive Cadillacs and Lincolns were around seven thousand. Lincoln doesn't really make fine cars, anymore. But the most expensive version of the Continental, is $64,000, today - roughly nine times the 1970 price. So, Joan got, adjusted for inflation, about $450,000.00 for doing Trog. Not bad, really...
The inflation calculator online says $326,480.16
The inflation calculator almost always underestimates inflation. The OFFICIAL rates of inflation are deliberately inaccurate.
Either way a pretty nice paycheck. Jennifer Lawrence only only $250,000 for the first hunger games and even though she wasn't an established star yet, it was still a multi-million dollar production.
Jennifer Lawrence can't hold a candle to Miss Joan Crawford. Also Jennifer Lawrence's attitude and treatment of fans is absolutely deplorable while Crawford always had time for a fan and appreciated her fans support.
$450,000 for trog? and she dressed in an old van? and had to get a cab from the airport because the budget wouldn't allow? that amount sounds very iffy to me.
‘’Trog’’ is her only film I cannot, cannot get through. ‘’Berserk’’ was painful enough.
Remember Mamacita ..... she had to take it just to keep the goddamn lights on !!!!
I loved this series. ❤❤
Bette Davis herself starred in a few so-so made for TV horror movies toward the end of her career.
ALL of which had better production values than Trog. Joan (rhymes with Groan) didn't even read the script. She only saw the salary and the title.
I LOVED Trog.
When I was 8.
You did very well in the part, David. What short shrift your character gave Miss Crawford.
I love the Raindrops are falling on my head opener .
It's a shame she didn't do Made for TV movies which were great in the 70s.
I agree, I grew up on the abc movies of thew week, they were great!
For a major Hollywood Queen Bee, doing TV movies would be tantamount to TV stars doing porn in the millennium.
Unlike today where BOTH are shrugged off.
@@infonut quite a few movie stars had careers in TV when older. Robert Young. Joan Blondell Eve Arden Lucille Ball Doris Day. Joan did The Lucy Show and Night Gallery Bette Davis did Perry Mason and It Takes a Thief etc. So they did do some TV work
TROG!! The greatest movie ever made
It is so sad. Even if Joan crawfords roles had become a joke and her work was scarce. She should have still been treated as a Hollywood legend.
I mean she is Mildred pierce for Christ sake! The same woman who was in films in 1925! The same woman who had every man in Hollywood lusting over her.
And here she is washing in a sink in a bathroom and changing in a camper van.
Makes me angry :(
RIP Queen Crawford
Tom Cross
In your opinion yes :)
Trog was not that bad of a film. And many stars, especially those doing independent films find themselves dressing in cars and vans. Some established stars like Ben Afflect say they sometimes do independent films for almost no salary and no private dressing room just for the chance of acting in a superior script.
sad for joan she should have went after more tv roles like a night time soap etc... really if betty davis was working in the 70's on tv why not joan. yes I know she did night gallery and ensight but so few
Now you know why Garbo left films when she did. She saw the writing on the wall when her last film received less than stellar reviews and box office.
@@sierria64 Good grief. She DID numerous TV roles.
Poor Joan. She knew she had hit rock bottom in Hollywood..
Good grief. She did just fine and was paid well for the film.
@@billhoskoformayorofsaintpa1295 Good grief! Do you think she would have accepted making this film under such shabby conditions were she not desperate for money. Making this movie, "TROG," for God's sake, was a definite low point in her career regardless of how well she might have been paid. You must know nothing about Hollywood or her career.
Joan, as always, gave it her all.
Heartbreaking.
This show was so well-done.
Lange is amazing!!!
All these different points of view of Joan Crawford, ultimately she was a complex but this feels this was the personal Joan she didn’t share with the world. as much as I love the clips, Where can I watch the full series?
Great work, David 👍🏽
They still had to pay the light bill!
Poor Joan!
Even divas have expiration dates.
Karl Lieck; everyone has no matter who you are.
I have been a fly on the wall in low budget b movies that had better conditions than that for their EXTRAS!
I can't even watch this, it's so awful. Joan Crawford was made into a joke and then treated like one by the male Hollywood establishment. Disgusting.
male?
or please, return to your feminist cave, you are just a person who brings problems.
I'm sorry, feminist or LGBT?
I can not differentiate toxicity.
@@MrClassic-wm2yc Did you even watch Bette and Joan ? Are you familiar with the Golden Age of Hollywood or Crawford and Davis's treatment ? If you do but can't see how an industry dominated by rich men between the SO VERY sex equality oriented 1920s and 1970s affected the lives of those actresses and pushed for their downfall then you are tone deaf. The real toxicity is not acknowledging the power dynamics, displays of domination and trying to ignore them.
You are part of the problem.
@@radiowavemonitor7871 How about you fuck off rude ass, unable to formulate a speech, injurious asshole
@@robinr4697 ... Hedda Hopper dominated too. And she's not a dangler.
i know this series took HUGE LIBERTIES on the truth of crawford and davis, but at least in this particular point of the making of "TROG" did crawford really REALLY not have a dressing room? did she really have to wash and change in a broken down van? i find that very very very hard to believe...
Another cigarette-free clip! THANK YOU!
the cigs are the best part
Oh Joan, you should never have been reduced to this
Its DRAMA. Good grief.
No easy way down...
Why is everyone feeling so sorry for her? She didn't have to agree to do it, jeeze, shes just spoile and accustomed to having everything, too bad....
"Trog" was a bomb.
She did not take taxis, that`s not true, she always hired limousines!
Too bad Feud didn't feature any of Joan's work in Berserk.
She should have quit after What Happened To Baby Jane
Sure. And of course you were there to pay her bills.
@@BillHosko ... "THERE IS ROOM FOR THIRTEEN FAMALIES IN THIS ONE HOUSE"!
My heart bleed peanut butter.
So sad for her to have to end her career like this…
I keep flashing back to Mommie Dearest when she's on her hands and knees, scrubbing the floor and all pissed off and squawking at Helga, "WHEN YOU SCRUB THE FLOOR, YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE PLANT!" Geez Louise, that British limeyvan is filthy. Bet it's full of dried up scone crumbs and old tea bags too. Poor thing has a lot of scrubbing to do.
Poor Joan wanted this to be a more serious film instead of the campy thing it turned out to be. I doubt she would have signed contract if she knew. Probably would have resorted to playing a grandmother in something more dignified.
She was paid WELL for the film. She knew what she was doing and lived life on her terms. This drama, over-dramatized many things.
I love Joan Crawford, but, I feel she held on to her film career for way too long. Katharine Hepburn once said that (during this period of time) she stayed away from doing any Hollywood films because the script (all too often) called for her to be "swinging an axe." Katharine turned to Broadway plays with great success. Given the estate that Joan left, I really don't think that lack of money was any real issue for her - although, I do get it that some folks feel "poor" (for whatever reason) when they are not.
Poor Joan, did she really need the work?
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I hate this scene. How could they do that to her. Her acting was brilliant as usual but the film itself was garbage. Clearly, nothing like how they pitched the project to her to get her to do it.
"He has no hair on his arms or his legs...." Yeah... the first thing I noticed, too! Youd' think even an inbecile could cast a hairy actor to play a neanderthal man.
By this point in her career, she was verging on broke, so she needed the money, which is why she had to do such a flimsy film...unfortunately.
Sad
yo UK film expenses still she had a job and a nice flat same with bette they didn't starve !🙂
I saw "Trog" yeas ago...the movie, the acting, etc were all utterly dreadful.
I actually own that movie somewhere among my DVDs. The way those women were treated is just insupportable.
Sad that she ever needed to keep it “going” so badly that she did horrid cheapo movies like Trog.
TROG was a cheap joke of a movie. it SUCKED!