@@sprinkle1943i use my knife's sharpening stone 😂 it works well, especially the ones used to make fine edges 😂 U can also use rough plastic covers some notebooks have. Just slide the lead in a circular motion while rotating the pencil I don't like the built in ones because they don't make longer points
We have a whole video on our channel about exactly this! I use the pointer for 2mm but will bust out the sandpaper block for larger graphite in clutches.
I was i troduced to this lead holder in the early 90's. It was a provided to us for our HS Drafting Class. I returned to it ten years ago and the design, from what I can remember, has not changed.
I got set off of Amazon for like 25 bucks with the shipping. I have not seen drafting pencils in my local hobby shop maybe you can find them at a home improvement store?
I've seen this pencil (Staedlers drafting mechanical pencil) around some art shops and some office supply stores like OfficeMax/Depot (though as the comments above say - they can also be found at Michaels or Amazon). It can be a bit pricey though, so I recommend getting a cheaper Pentel mechanical pencil to start out with - Pentel's pencils unfortunately aren't like the drafting pencils where you can turn them on their side to shade, but they're great for having an art supply that's a little less expensive (save for the different grade lead refills).
They're not that great. Staedtler red and blacks, the Mars Lumographs and a bit surprisingly Rexel pencils are very responsive. So many influencers seem obsessed with hawking unnecessary new things that are no better than the traditional tools. It makes for easy content provision and keeps the biz going.
I just got my first mechanical pencil I love it. The weight of it and the mixture of easily erasable lines and sharp looking lines for more than sketching is really good. It actually helped improve my art.
I started using that lead holder because of David Finch, and i literally can't imagine not using it when drawing now (which probably isn't good but a little superstition never hurt lol)
Rotring rapid pro 2mm with 6h leads for detailed laying down and a blackwing 602 or mitubishi 9850 for everything else. ( not cheap but just two tools) 😊 its a beautiful combo but dont be fooled, the final results from a cheap H&B pencil set can be just the same. Happy sketching 😂
Would also recommend people look into getting a Pentel Sharp 500 or Pentel Graphgear 1000 mechanical pencil alongside the Staedlers drafting mechanical pencil. The Pentel ones might not be the best to turn the lead on it's side to shade, but they're great for fine detail drawings, rough underlying sketches, hatching/crosshatching, and for having easily accessible pencils on hand. Fair warning that the Staedlers drafting pencil and the Pentel Graphgear are a little more expensive (though the Graphgear is worth it for the pencil grip and lead grade indicator), while the Pentel Sharp is cheaper and can be found in any art/office supply store.
I also use just mechanical... The cheapest and it works fine. I am in an art group and I always recommend to learn shading and lining with what ever they've on hand instead of searching for the magic pen which not exists
Nothing wrong with a cheap pencil! This isn't about any one brand or anything. Just putting forward the option of thicker lead holders for the added benefits they have versus the other tools. As long as people find a thing that works for them, that's the important part! That's why this video's titled with an "I".
I dislike mechanical pencils, because either the lead breaks, the mechanism that pushes the lead out breaks, or i eat all of the leads before i get to use them
Gosh, I remember proko being what out me in these bad boys. They became an art staple and I remember getting in trouble various times in school for having these 😂 Good times.
It's a first to feel ahead of you 🤣 I happen to use those long-living pencils for about 30 years now. I always loved the balance in the hand. It was a present from my grandfather. Simple, but perfect. Later I bought 2 more with finer leads. Never regretted to have invested in the good quality.
I'm considering buying a mechanical pencil, but something in me doesn't want to hold something "artificial" when drawing traditionally. I'm still buying it tho.
It'll be a change in feel. That heft mentioned in the video can be a big difference at first but it becomes a comfortable feel very quickly. Most of the quality companies behind these tools finely honed how it'll feel in your hand and have made them ergonomic.
I am using it after seeing your recommendation almost an year ago. It's a great and must have tool for artist. Do Staedtler have 6B and 8B lead as well?
Do you know if there's a difference between cheaper pencil lead and more expensive? staedtler at least in Canada for a pack of 12 2mm is $14 when other brands are like half that price
More expensive brands typically feel smoother, break less and are more consistent in the scale of hardness. You don't have to strictly get Staedtler, though. There are other brands that might be the choice of those who work in the genre of art you like. Hope you find one that works well for you!
@@ProkoTV thank you. I guess the only way to know is to shop around. I haven't tried a lot of other brands. But I'll keep in mind that the more expensive ones will break less
@ProkoTV i didnt think you would actually respond, well do you have anything to draw in a sketch book to help one get better? Im personally bad at drawing people, full bodys, and manga characters, i wanna get better
@@Serene_Sag3 You just identified what you should be drawing! You'll know your weaknesses better than we ever could. Try going through our playlist on figure drawing to improve your skill with drawing full bodies. That'll be a gratifying one to learn and then you can apply the skills you learned to honing other skills you want to build.
If you poke through our channel, you'll see we definitely love a traditional wood pencil for use with the overhand grip. But if we were picking just one to carry with us, it'd be a 2mm lead holder. Glad you have one that you like most too!
I use all different types of hardnesses for different purposes. For graphite, this is my most common set I pair with a lead holder. Working with charcoal, I'll use different hard esses than graphite. The brand name is never mentioned here and is not an ad.
That's not typically called a mechanical pencil, it's called a lead holder. And do not buy any lead sharpener that isn't japanese. Don't do it. I've used that specific sharpener, it's god awful. I stand by the 'mitsubishi uni' series.
We're okay with people using either term, as people who use lead holders and clutches daily. We're trying to share a useful tool with the wide world of art beginners. As for the country thing, Japanese companies make GREAT art tools! But there are just as many trash art products companies from Japan as anywhere else. Staedtler is my choice for quality and is also the choice for plenty of mangaka, even.
This is just the one we use. The company's name is never even said. The logo on the pencil isn't even shown? lol It's just on the front of the lead because that's also the same side of the package where the hardness of the lead is while we talk about lead hardness.
You can also use the metal stopper on the back of it as a sharpener if you didn't know.(gotta tap the dust out pretty often) Give it a try!
That’s the only way I do it. I can’t afford the sharpener 😭
@@sprinkle1943i use my knife's sharpening stone 😂 it works well, especially the ones used to make fine edges 😂
U can also use rough plastic covers some notebooks have.
Just slide the lead in a circular motion while rotating the pencil
I don't like the built in ones because they don't make longer points
Having a block of wood with a scrap of wet & dry sandpaper (about 800 grit) glued to it is also convenient to quickly sharpen the lead as you work.
We have a whole video on our channel about exactly this! I use the pointer for 2mm but will bust out the sandpaper block for larger graphite in clutches.
Ah Staedtler Lead holder and the lead sharpener combo. Really good, I definitely like the blue and read leads for drawing.
Been using 2mm for years, it's my go-to every time
I was i troduced to this lead holder in the early 90's. It was a provided to us for our HS Drafting Class. I returned to it ten years ago and the design, from what I can remember, has not changed.
That kind of mechanical pencil is so rare to find here 😢
I got set off of Amazon for like 25 bucks with the shipping. I have not seen drafting pencils in my local hobby shop maybe you can find them at a home improvement store?
They can also be found in Michael’s in the pencil section.
I've seen this pencil (Staedlers drafting mechanical pencil) around some art shops and some office supply stores like OfficeMax/Depot (though as the comments above say - they can also be found at Michaels or Amazon). It can be a bit pricey though, so I recommend getting a cheaper Pentel mechanical pencil to start out with - Pentel's pencils unfortunately aren't like the drafting pencils where you can turn them on their side to shade, but they're great for having an art supply that's a little less expensive (save for the different grade lead refills).
They're not that great. Staedtler red and blacks, the Mars Lumographs and a bit surprisingly Rexel pencils are very responsive.
So many influencers seem obsessed with hawking unnecessary new things that are no better than the traditional tools. It makes for easy content provision and keeps the biz going.
Check drafting/architechure supply, thats where i got em
I just got my first mechanical pencil I love it. The weight of it and the mixture of easily erasable lines and sharp looking lines for more than sketching is really good. It actually helped improve my art.
It is called a drafting lead holder. Draftsmen used them before the advent of AutoCad. They are popular with many artists. I use the 4H and HB lead.
i have had my eye on this one since the Proko drawing fundamentals talked about it a year ago.
😊 I don't know why but I really loving Pencils more after watching PROKo !
We're glad to share that pencil love!
Ohhhhh! That’s my own personal favorite pencil as well! I’ve used one for years. Nice to see it having a moment in the spotlight here. 😆🎉
I bought one of these. No. I went back to Staedtler red and blacks. Quality pencils.
Where did you get those? They look great!!
Ahhh, that pristine knurling feel, just the best.
Short, easy and useful. Thanks.
I started using that lead holder because of David Finch, and i literally can't imagine not using it when drawing now (which probably isn't good but a little superstition never hurt lol)
I have a rotoring 2mm mechanical pencil and I love it!
Nice!
Rotring rapid pro 2mm with 6h leads for detailed laying down and a blackwing 602 or mitubishi 9850 for everything else. ( not cheap but just two tools) 😊 its a beautiful combo but dont be fooled, the final results from a cheap H&B pencil set can be just the same. Happy sketching 😂
btw for anyone whos to broke for this but by some chance has the faber castle 2.0mm it also has the sharpener thingy on the cap (only on newer models)
Would also recommend people look into getting a Pentel Sharp 500 or Pentel Graphgear 1000 mechanical pencil alongside the Staedlers drafting mechanical pencil. The Pentel ones might not be the best to turn the lead on it's side to shade, but they're great for fine detail drawings, rough underlying sketches, hatching/crosshatching, and for having easily accessible pencils on hand.
Fair warning that the Staedlers drafting pencil and the Pentel Graphgear are a little more expensive (though the Graphgear is worth it for the pencil grip and lead grade indicator), while the Pentel Sharp is cheaper and can be found in any art/office supply store.
There are a lot of great options out there. Thanks for sharing what you like!
Man I'd love to see a sketchbook and artbook tour by stan
The top metal button to extend lead is the sharpener too. That's what the hole on top is for.
Yeah, but it's a doodoo lead pointer lol
But not everyone starting out could afford both. "Or, if you can't get the sharpener yet, there's one on top that comes in handy!"@@ProkoTV
Drafting pencils for sketching, interesting. I hope you have a separate pencil for each grade.
I like wood pencils, they just feel so comforting idk
I also use just mechanical... The cheapest and it works fine. I am in an art group and I always recommend to learn shading and lining with what ever they've on hand instead of searching for the magic pen which not exists
Nothing wrong with a cheap pencil! This isn't about any one brand or anything.
Just putting forward the option of thicker lead holders for the added benefits they have versus the other tools.
As long as people find a thing that works for them, that's the important part! That's why this video's titled with an "I".
@@ProkoTV absolutely and the same counts for my I 😊 Just want to double your words kinda like 😅
I dislike mechanical pencils, because either the lead breaks, the mechanism that pushes the lead out breaks, or i eat all of the leads before i get to use them
You had in the first half but that second 🤣
Gosh, I remember proko being what out me in these bad boys. They became an art staple and I remember getting in trouble various times in school for having these 😂 Good times.
Was that a culinary grate you really-purposed for your pencils?
It's a first to feel ahead of you 🤣 I happen to use those long-living pencils for about 30 years now. I always loved the balance in the hand. It was a present from my grandfather. Simple, but perfect. Later I bought 2 more with finer leads. Never regretted to have invested in the good quality.
it’s satisfying to eventually make the pencil extremely tiny though. that’s the joy in having graphite pencils.
Nothing wrong with that if you enjoy it!
@@ProkoTV i do absolutely love my mechanical pencils too! Thanks for making such helpful content it’s helping improve my art skills ✨ ❤️
Ive been using the pencil I found on the floor at the dentist office
What about using the back sharpener,mine have one at the back !
Me too when i use them. when i use mechanical pencil if i was holding a pencil it did not feel right
I had that exact pencil, then it broke 😭 it was so good and now I’ve got a bunch of the led packs sitting in my pencil case
I got the scrikss graph x its heavy..not used to this much heavy pencil...
Some of this types of mechanical pencils have a sharpener on the push button cap! Even the dollar store ones
I USE THAT!!!
Sand paper is my lead pointer
I'm considering buying a mechanical pencil, but something in me doesn't want to hold something "artificial" when drawing traditionally. I'm still buying it tho.
It'll be a change in feel. That heft mentioned in the video can be a big difference at first but it becomes a comfortable feel very quickly.
Most of the quality companies behind these tools finely honed how it'll feel in your hand and have made them ergonomic.
I've abandoned using pencils because some sharpeners don't work. I am glad i still use my mechanical pencil
Didn't know they came THICC too😅
I am using it after seeing your recommendation almost an year ago. It's a great and must have tool for artist. Do Staedtler have 6B and 8B lead as well?
Have, yes. Use, not as commonly as those mentioned here.
Would 8B or even 10B give you that super dark tone that you might want or will 4B do the trick?
This comes down to your personal preference. For Stan, he uses those laid out here for the look he's trying to achieve.
Do you know if there's a difference between cheaper pencil lead and more expensive? staedtler at least in Canada for a pack of 12 2mm is $14 when other brands are like half that price
More expensive brands typically feel smoother, break less and are more consistent in the scale of hardness.
You don't have to strictly get Staedtler, though. There are other brands that might be the choice of those who work in the genre of art you like.
Hope you find one that works well for you!
@@ProkoTV thank you. I guess the only way to know is to shop around. I haven't tried a lot of other brands. But I'll keep in mind that the more expensive ones will break less
what is this pencil called
really is the best pencil
HB is equivalent to the #2 pencil, IIRC
Yep!
I use 2B for everything
i wish i could keep my staedtler forever. sadly it turns to verdigris in less than a year. :(
But you still have to buy 4 pencils.
Best way to sketch is ball point pen and nobody can tell me otherwise
Youngling Slayer 🤝 Galaxy Ruiner
I personally just like using 1 lead or "pencil" for the whole drawing, is that okay?
Absolutely!
@ProkoTV i didnt think you would actually respond, well do you have anything to draw in a sketch book to help one get better? Im personally bad at drawing people, full bodys, and manga characters, i wanna get better
@@Serene_Sag3 You just identified what you should be drawing! You'll know your weaknesses better than we ever could.
Try going through our playlist on figure drawing to improve your skill with drawing full bodies. That'll be a gratifying one to learn and then you can apply the skills you learned to honing other skills you want to build.
@@ProkoTV thanks ill try that
they have 4 b lead what mm
This is much better than that guy who spits all over his work. Never feature that guy again
We'll definitely be doing more videos with Rembert in the future. He's an incredible talent.
Sorry you disliked that one tidbit.
Where can i find those pencils
They're sold in most art supply stores and online
I always thought you were more of a wooden guy
I love a wooden pencil! But lead holders and clutches are awesome.
That heft and being able to refill it are great.
I like wood
Mee twoo I love technical pencils I m geting a another today
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agreed
And you can save up the graphite dust and apply it with a little make-up brush. Get some easy light tones.
Nah wood pencils are better but ots your opinion but i like wood because you can carve it
If you poke through our channel, you'll see we definitely love a traditional wood pencil for use with the overhand grip. But if we were picking just one to carry with us, it'd be a 2mm lead holder.
Glad you have one that you like most too!
Gasp! Blasphemy! jk. These are they only acceptable "mechanical pencil" types. Lead holders. The thin ones aren't great.
I have no idea what this video is….
It's about the last pencil I'll ever need! lol
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Buying Link .
This isn't that kind of video. What brand you choose is up to you. We're just recommending the idea of a mechanical pencil/lead holder.
Is.this an ad? He actually uses a 6b for the darks on the portrait of the guy proposing to his girlfriend. Do they not do those anymore?
I use all different types of hardnesses for different purposes. For graphite, this is my most common set I pair with a lead holder.
Working with charcoal, I'll use different hard esses than graphite.
The brand name is never mentioned here and is not an ad.
Great Staedtler ad! What about lead holders with 5.6mm thickness?
Not an ad. We never mention their name, even.
Stan's main larger clutch is from Koh-I-Noor
Promo say something Ukrainian?
Huh! Blasphemy!
That's not typically called a mechanical pencil, it's called a lead holder.
And do not buy any lead sharpener that isn't japanese. Don't do it.
I've used that specific sharpener, it's god awful.
I stand by the 'mitsubishi uni' series.
We're okay with people using either term, as people who use lead holders and clutches daily. We're trying to share a useful tool with the wide world of art beginners.
As for the country thing, Japanese companies make GREAT art tools! But there are just as many trash art products companies from Japan as anywhere else. Staedtler is my choice for quality and is also the choice for plenty of mangaka, even.
Ad
This is just the one we use. The company's name is never even said.
The logo on the pencil isn't even shown? lol It's just on the front of the lead because that's also the same side of the package where the hardness of the lead is while we talk about lead hardness.
Me thinks you protest too much