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- What are inverted fullbacks?
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Used well, inverted full-backs can facilitate extreme attacking pressure while also shoring up the defensive structure, allowing teams to dominate possession and pin teams in their own half to devastating effect.
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#invertedfullbacks #mancity #pepguardiola
You guys could probably get this video series published as a book at some point
@Alek H completely agree with you on that
Great Idea man... I'D Love to read such stuff and keep the primary data for future reference
An audio book from the lows of staff and how they help with the team all the way up to how teams work at the business level, would be huge metaphorically and literally.
*textbook
Sai Kiran what do you mean by that? Honest question btw
Don’t know if you’ve ever done anything on asymmetric formations. I’d be really interested to see you cover that topic.
Inverted Fullbacks
- Build Up (For Zone14 Passing)
- Coverage (Anchor)
- Compactness (Counter Pressing)
- Defensive (Pull Away Opposite IF) (Isolate Opposite WB)
Wingbacks = defensive players who act as wingers when the team has posession.
Inverted backs = defensive players who act as box to box midfielders when the team has posession.
MrGlennJohnsen no. The inverted backs don’t act as box to box midfielders. They act as defensive midfielders who sometimes get forward.
Up next introverted wingers. They always try and create personal space in forward areas
introverted? are they shy? , think you mean inverted
@@MR-yo4kh no it was a bad joke. Bc they want personal space not just space
Chris and Katie Brooke your hella gay cuh
Almighty_Kaiser ok
😂 the shy winger... will attack you but never start a conversation with you
Thanks tifo for uploading regularly cause it's really helpful in these circumstances
Really appreciated
in 2002 Brasil played 352 with Cafu and Roberto Carlos playing Right and Left mid-field, respectively.
I was so early that tifo football was still known as umaxit
Manas Bhardwaj so that wasnt just a lost memory
Manas Bhardwaj i remember when they changed their name but I completely forgot what their old name wss
Thanks I wanted to remember the name and couldnt
Ahhh the times where they didn't base their videos on the athletic articles
Manas Bhardwaj Fuck wow
This series helps with my FM20 team. Thanks tifo!
Same for me
Fm is a calculating game I think. it counts all players overall attributes vs the other teams attributes and then put them in a randomized calculator to make results. While completely ignoring the stats of different players different attributes like height, stamina, mentality which i think is the most important attributes of a player.
@@akashjefe dude tactics also play a very big role the players role are the main things used to calculate result not just overall attributes otherwise big teams will always win and underdogs wont stand a chance
@@issamasghar5203 you are wrong brother. You do a test like Put best slow paced defender's in your team and play them in a high line and chose your rival team which have low Quality players but with higher pace. And see the results.
@@akashjefe i know stats matter but tactics also affect the results i did a few tests myself used different tactics for same match and the results were a way apart
The first time I saw an inverted full was the way Bielsa played Sorin in his Argentina National side....
Makes you appreciate PES even more.
yeah man. at first I thought this was just opposite footed fullbacks and now I see that's "False fullbacks". love them at pes
Yeah. It's a lovely tactic to have. The AI always seem to know when to drift centrally and when to stay out wide. PES forever!
@@brinydemon0321 forever huh?
Football is chess. At any given moment your team and the opposition have spaces of strength and weakness depending on where the players are situated on the pitch. No matter what new tactic comes out there will always be a weakness created elsewhere as a by product in some other area of the pitch. If somebody tried to use this tactic against me i would put wide forwards out on the flanks in line with their two CBs and try to get the ball to them as quick as possible. That's the areas that are left very exposed by the "inverted fullbacks"
Great video! Also I never even thought about the reason why fullbacks commonly have shirtnumbers 2 & 3, but it makes a lot of sense.
Maybe a video on the origins of each number/position would be nice?
Coming soon actually. Two weeks probably
Michael Cox did it on The Athletic so that’s probably where they’ll get the material from. Amazing read btw.
@@Tifo Can't wait for it. I also really want to know why no. 10 is commonly used by midfielder (AM) while no. 9 is commonly used by furthest forward (box forward instead of supporting)
@@andrenapitupulu9499 Thats easy cause of the 4 4 2 probably a 10 and a 9
@@MappingFreak By that order, 9 should be used by supporting striker, and 10 by target man, but it happened the other way around...
More of these and more coach analysis
once again its a proof that Guardiola's Bayern Munich team is by far the best team in the history from a tactical point of view. i ve never watched a more tactical team than that team, they played every formation possible all the way from a 433, 4231, 343, 2341, and sometimes 12141 and shifting throughout the game from a system to another.
i am not saying there are the best in history, nor they he succeed in his mission at Bayern, on the contrary i think he went a step further
Pep Guardiola looks like a bald Jürgen Klopp
Yeah but not even Liverpool fans think he's a genius and will call him a bald fraud... Pfft
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld Plain stupidity from them
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld not everyone, I, a liverpool fan think he's a very good coach and has incredible tactics
@@_jakeng_1086 Same
I swear these videos are so helpful with no football going on due to this virus outbreak. Literally my favorite YT channel.
As i am writing this Jurgen Klopp has just started using Trent AA as an inverted full back and Liverpool have beaten Leeds 6-1 away. It would be interesting to see how Klopp uses inverted full backs in his system.
I think you miss a big point here. Inverted full-backs are only practicable if your wide forwards are more comfortable out wide on the touchline rather than cutting inside during build up. Eg Robben-Ribery and Sterling-Sane.
Funny how Robben likes to start near the touchline but then always ends up cutting in halfway across the pitch to shoot 😂
Philipp Lahm is literally the most intelligent footballer I've ever seen. The guy could be a world class striker😂
yeah, u r quoting it from Pep''s testi on lahm
The guy could be a world class anything I'm pretty sure.
@@helmialfathseptiana6383 what a tool 🤣 Nicely called out. Hate it when people try to sound knowledgeable by using other people insights as trying to act like they thought of it. @BayernNow you utter bellend lol "Philipp Lahm is literally the most intelligent footballer I've ever seen. The guy could be a world class striker😂"
Can’t doubt Lahm‘s football iq
@@rooneye @Helmi might not have replied to the OP with any offense at this supposed show of intellect. Seeing how the OP is a Bayern fan he just quoted it and Helmi pointed it out.
Another excellent and informative video Tifo :)
Haha i read the title as “WHY ARE INVERTED FULLBACKS” was like woooaah thats deep 🤤
Ole exposed the high fullbacks by creating 3 v 2 against the centre backs when balls were launched into the channel.
Shakhya Halder lol you dont get a trophie gor doing that idiot
Stephen James Stephen he is correct u knob.
@@stephenjames227 he never said you did get a trophy for that, he simply stated how Ole exposed this tactic used by Pep three times this season. stay bitter
@@stephenjames227 Damn you're a bit dull aren't you
@@tylerheslop1218 The tactic only worked because not a single City player took United seriously, didnt really look like they cared about losing tbh. Already knew CL is the only thing that matters.
It's interesting how with the inverted fullbacks playing their role, the system comes to resemble the OG 2-3-5, thus the fullbacks taking on the role of halfbacks and the centrebacks the role of fullbacks
Edit: Should've watched the video till the end first :D
I've been saying for years that instead of persisting with what has become a nonsensical nomenclature we really ought to start calling them what they are - classical wing-halves, and give the name of full-back back to those players for whom it was meant. Alas, I suspect it's a lost cause.
Cancelo is the most recent.. Lahm was another very intelligent inverted full back... My favorite was Juan Pablo Sorin.. Under Bielsa and Pekerman, the Argentine was on another level...
Had great success with an inside full back on FM19
Great work once again! Keep it up guys!
I am a big fan of this tactic, thank you so much for explaining it more.
I'd love it if there was a "what this works best against" and "what is best used against this" for future vids. I know there's a bit at the end on pros and cons. But a relation to formation or examples from matches would be great.
I'm not questioning the definition of inverted full backs here, but I feel like you guys portrayed them too narrowly. Like, I get their function, but in the cases you guys pointed out, all teams use passing centre backs. And in your animation, the full backs and the defensive midfielder are giving no condition for that to happen.
Anyway, great video as always
Literally the only reason I'm getting through quarantine is you guys
Thanks for this great video. You explain things that help my son on the pitch and were never explained by any coach. I guess they never had the knowledge. I really appreciate your videos.
What do you call fullbacks who do both during games? .... Complete Wingbacks? I play at a much lower level :-D ... but I definitely do both, when there is no winger occupying "my flank" I push up the side to provide a crossing option, if there is one I never overlap, I push inwards instead to assist in the build up or provide cover. Our most advanced midfielder is in charge of overlapping from the inside in both flanks.
It rarely works out ... but it´s fun to try.
Zinchenko is actually used as a wing-back. His strengths are pace, dribbling and crossing. Walker on the other hand does play inverted.
Wow great video, guys! Informative, subtle and not too long. Subscribed
Joao cancelo currently play this position very well at City now
What are full backs? Carlos/Cafu then Marcelo/Alves
Im trying the 5-2cm-2am-1stk in FM
Using the inverted wingers the formation shape changes to a 3-2iw-2cm-2am-1
The 2 am can stretch the defense by going wide, while 1 or both cm go up
I struggle against low block teams and creating opportunities even though my team has an easy time controlling the match
Any feedback is welcomed✌
JustMe what kind of tempo are you playing at? Could be worth slowing it down against low block teams
@@jamesreid8356 its already slow with short passing since I already have the number advantage in every sector except the attack
This Channel is turning me into a Football manager
Brilliant explanation of a complicated concept.
Congrats!
bielsa does this with stuart dallas at leeds still. at times dallas pretty much has a free role in the middle of the park, phillips stays deep and the centre halfs push beside him
Alaba and Lahm are players Pep wish he had at City as nobody but these 2 carry out the inverted fullback role with composure. Would also think Raphael Guerriero and Joshua Kimmich would have been the closest to those two fullbacks.
The backing track is pleasant to the ears
Make a whole series like this it would be sensational
people called it as "false Fullbacks" on Pep's srategy
Yeh we’re using the term that’s more common in English but you’re right. In Germany that’s what they’re called
While in England, Pep's also known as the "false manager".
@@fooaloysius7179 but the PL has the most competition in the world. theres no surprise that pep isnt clean sweeping everything like he did in other leagues.
anyone knows the tactical instructions for inverted fullbacks on the defence?
Correct me if I'm wrong or add on to help me understand better.
1) During the transition when the team loses possession, the inverted full backs press to win the ball back quickly.
2) If they fail to win the ball quickly and the opposition chooses to recycle the ball (ie not go for a transition to attack) do the inverted full backs:
2.1) drop diagonally to cover the wing to form a flat 4 and the more offensive players also drop to restore their defensive organisation.
2.2) Or do they sit centrally in their "inverted fullback positions" to act as a 3 man central defensive players to add an additional line of defence in front of the 2 centre backs
I would think point 1 is definitely correct but I'm unsure if they perform point 2.1 or 2.2. I would think if the opposition chooses to exploit the wide spaces, the inverted fullbacks will be the ones responsible to follow them out wide and restore a flat 4. But what if the opposition chooses to recycle the ball, this gives time for the inverted fullbacks to decide to sit centrally or drop to form a flat 4. So they have this option and I'm unsure which they would choose
The concept of inverted fullbacks doesn't explain Guardiola's obsession to run the game with 11 midfielders.
Philipp Lahm is the best example of this. In the 2014 season, Guardiola converted him into a defensive midfielder.
I mean what kind of a microcosm do you have to live in to take the best right-back in the world at the time and slot him in at CDM, in a team that is already overloaded with midfielders.
This conversion to a CDM also nearly cost Germany the 2014 world cup. Löw was so hellbent on copying the Bayern system, for the first games, that he completely overlooked, the defensive repercussions. With Lahm in CDM, the team lacked a defensive anchor at right-back. This became especially clear in the game vs Algeria, in which Germany only survived because of Neuer.
But looking at the other games, especially vs France, Brazil and Argentina, because Lahm was playing right-back again the defence was much more stable and that really helped in securing the world cup.
Also, I had the feeling that especially playing for Germany Lahm best games were as a wide offensive pushing right back, delivering crosses into the box. Klose's headed goal vs Australia in the 2010 world cup is a good example.
this series is gonna be great
You gotta admit Marcelo popularized this what R Carlos Cafu started
Him and Dani Alves
Cafu and Roberto Carlos didn't start this. This has been sorta required of Brazilian full backs since Nilton Santos and Djalma Santos in 58.
Can't say about Golden Age....but I believe Overlapping Fullback started in mid 70's with fully revolutionized in 90's
Well... thats a very European point of view. The truth is in Brasil we've had full backs or side backs overlaping and reaching the goal line for crosses and shots waaaaaaayyyyy before R.Carlos and Cafu. You see, before the late 90s Brazilian teams could aford to keep their players. Its wasnt that common for star players to make a move to Europe. Especially side backs, who had a lot more liberty on Brasilian teams than they would have in Europe, where they were still playing fullback.
@@diegoackley5054 Europeans think football was always stronger there than South America. From mid 50's until 1980, south america was much stronger in National leagues and World Cups. Brazil and Argentina had half of best players in the world, just two countries winning almost everything.
If this is a possession based tactic, what causes certain teams that are similar in tactic to fall apart? Is it all a waiting game and a narrow window of error being capitalized upon? I'm trying to figure out why a Team like Liverpool tend to struggle for goals against defensively minded teams like Atletico?
Great content as always, best place to learn about football tactics and more
Another great video.
Btw can you make a video of shirt numbers in other positions please?
Very helpful video. But anyone knows what half back means? I'm new to football tactics and these terms just blow up my mind.
A defensive midfielder who plays in front of 2 centre backs. When the opposition have the ball the half back drops deep and plays as a third centre backs in between the 2 centre backs. When the team have possession he plays as a traditional defensive midfielder
Thank you so much for your help.
Who's here after poch converted cucurella to inverted fullback ✋
Another vid to make me think about my team on PES
Could‘ve maldini play as a inverted fullback?
Definitely
Oh, Tifo, Tifo,
You should know,
Putting Trent and Robbo,
In the same sentence as Cafu and Roberto,
Is a big no-no!
nothing wrong there. putting Robbo and Trent in the same sentence as Cafu and RC doesnt mean they achieve the same heights in their career.
Trent is actually pretty technical and intelligent, his natural position is as a DMF, but you're also right because defensively he's suspect , otherwise he's better compared to Robertspn who's a generic Fullback
Alaba and Kimmich can compare. Trent might already be the best RB in the world at 21 so I don’t see the big deal in comparing him to RC and Cafu
Just check out Roberto Carlos and Cafu or Maldini and Tassoti. That's all you need to know about how to play as a right back and Left back
Interesting how Trent Alexander-Arnold's role has changed from paradigm attacking fullback as mentioned here to essentially an inverted fullback/playmaker.
He used to be a midfielder, that helps quite a lot
Great video Alex!
Ange Postecoglu uses this
Jock Stein’s Celtic used full-backs as attacking outlets in the 60s and 70s. Celtic’s first goal in the 1967 European Cup final was scored (from open play!) by our LB, Tommy Gemmell
Great Video Guys 👍🏻
Everyday content.... Yes!!
I like to see a vídeo about the 3-3-4 of Cagliari.
2.30 so tactics have come full circle because that’s the 2-3-5 formation you started this with
90 years ahead of his time apparently
I think Jonny or Doherty did the same thing for Wolves. Doherty tends to be in the final third too.
It’s a good thing Trent and Robbo are world class at attacking, cause the pair cannot defend
Mac Daddy420 yet scousers will keep saying how both of them have revolutionised the fullback role. TAA gets rinsed easy.
Robbo is good enough
@Idle Hands Stop making shit up it wasn’t Liverpool fans who said that Trent and Robbo have “revolutionised” the full back role it’s the media. However in premier league history Trent and robbo are the best of fullbacks your gonna see the assists they are getting is remarkable. Also it’s a myth that Trent can’t defend literally the last time a player really Skinned him was rashford and zaha and that was 2 years ago. Nobody talks about how Trent pocketed sane, neymar or ronaldo do they. Also AWB isn’t really a great fullback if he’s always going to ground is he which shows he has poor positional sense......
@Mac Daddy420 I mean trent and Robbo are part of the defence that has like the 2nd best defensive record in the league. If they cannot defend why have Liverpool only lost one game in the prem this season.....
@@sultanqurban4615 mate. Calm down. I was just makin a joke.
Emptyforwards
Do 3-6-1 false 9 against pep analysis
Can you do a "Seattle Sounders FC tactics explained"?!?
If TAA and Robertson are inverted fullbacks, how come do they have so much assists. Like they are always in a position where they are crossing the ball into the box. I am a bit confused..
So we are going back to 2-3-5 huh?
this has already been happening for some time
Do a Real Madrid video please
Marcelo and Dani Alves are the best in that position,sometimes i even wonder what position these 2 guys play in their teams...
Neither are inverted fullbacks
@@Blueeey zinchenko, Walker, kimmich,alaba are inverted fullback.
@@mmbyron so wingbacks?
What are they?
@@mmbyron Yes,or like Marcos Alonso. Chelsea played with a back 3 and wingbacks to cover Marcos Alonso cos he doesn't have the pace to run up and down but he hugs that touchline
2-3-5 formation is crazy 😂
Amazing
I disagree that the 4-3-3 doesn't have natural width. Totally depends on if the right and left forwards are playing as wingers or not.
I wish this was the position I played in HS!
Love it
Talk about a Mobile Striker
i’m sorry but that guardiola is criminal
In 2002, Brazil played in 3-5-2 system. Cafu and RC were not full backs, more precisely Outside MF.
in contemporary terminology wouldn't they be considered neither fullback nor outside MF, but wing backs? usually what i remember hearing when a team playing 3 at the back is discussed.
More a 3421 with Cafu and Carlos as wing backs
What I wrote is not my opinion. I've just repeated what Scolari (Brazil 2002 coach) explained a lot of times to the press here in Brazil.
Sorry but that Pep drawing is cursed😂
*Cancelo has entered the chat*
No wonder defenders in an Arsenal team and Ozil got their form back imediately Arteta became coach. Thanks to Niles and Saka
no disadvantages, then!
This is how Pep wins a league by 100 points with Fabian Delph at leftback
It is criminal how you avoided to mention Zidan's Real Madrid which highly relies on advanced full backs.
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YOu mention about the numbers for full backs being different across the world specially for the right back...TELL US THEN!
Soon
Pep guardiola in the video looks more like Klopp without hair
Yep but no Liverpool fan is willing to call Pep a genius and just call him a bald fraud like everyone else.. Nvm
Tromp Village
I love inverted fullbacks!!
yo
Can we get a wolves video please.
They are full-backs a bit inverted towards goal.
Phillip Lahm is the best inverted fullback
You mention pep but not mention conte with Alonso & moses
exactly ... Conte was doing it before Pep
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