Which ones? I think there's only like, 1 war movie I can vaguely remember a Spider-Man actor in; but I don't usually watch sports movies, so I have no clue about the girls ones other than this one.
So hang on - Weird-ass love triangle - Characters talk like complete psychopaths - Tennis both as a metaphor and as a character trait somehow - 'Just two hours of the most unlikeable people being unlikeable' ...I hate to admit it, but you've sold me on this film
@@englishatheart girl, the world doesn't revolve around you, Zendaya is a much loved actress, even if you don't like her let's normalize moving on from things we don't like, instead of being hateful
@@JesusChrist-vb8cq Again, the world doesn't revolve around you, that may be your opinion and that's okay, but critics, directors and producers disagree and continue to hire her, she has two Emmys and many fans You may not like her, but keep your hate to yourself, because it wouldn't be cool for someone to comment mean things on your Instagram photos just because they didn't like your face 🤷🏿♀️
@@JesusChrist-vb8cqshe’s pretty good to be fair, dunes just weird eastern fetishism shit anyway, love when pple take whatever aesthetic from the middle east but don’t care about the people living there living or dying bc of american tax dollars being spent on war mongreging ..anyways
I was having the same thoughts. I first saw her when I was in college. And I just finished college. There's no way I finished college ten years ago. No way.
A mother role? Um you got that from a married woman with a daughter cheating on her husband with his ex best friend and threatening to leave him if he loses a tennis match? What I got is Tashi is a narcissist and toxic. Not a "mother role"
I know Zendaya is hot but goddamn no human is worth 13 years of mind games after a few months I’d be like “you know what there’s billions of other people on this planet I’m out”
I feel like the actual moral of this story is "A hot piece of ass isn't worth all this bullshit." Everyone in this film makes terrible life choices over and over again for garbage reasons like lust, anger, or jealousy and they'd all be happier if they each went their separate ways instead of manipulating each other in this awful triangle.
@@Phyrre56 not necessarily. they'd also all be happier with each other around, even if only in the form of friendship. this is implied through the entire movie as in that every time two characters were alone they'd talk about the third one that was not present. even the poster for the movie, with Art and Patrick reflecting on Tashi's glasses, showing that they are not suitable for any exclusive relationship between just two of any of them.
One of the best scenes. Unfortunately rest of movie doesn’t have the depth of that moment. Tashi would’ve been a more interesting character if she had more guilt over manipulating Patrick and Art. It’s like ok she just wants to watch “good tennis” but ummm she has a whole family now
I think to her, it’s not just watching good tennis. Playing/watching tennis is what gives her the most pleasure in life. Doesn’t get it from relationship with Art. She was desperate and usual manipulation wasn’t working. I doubt she would feel remorse. A lot of cheaters don’t until they get caught and she did it for her perceived higher stakes. When she was younger she still was manipulative, but was more for fun and trying to improve their game. She also didn’t want to get between friends. Now she doesn’t have any real options to continue closely in the game. I think she was doing what she had to do.
Biggest problem for me was the movies marketing. I forgot it was even about tennis because every promo talked about how sexy zendaya was in the movie, they didn’t care about the plot or performances. All the promos said was hey you think zendaya is hot, wanna see her in her underwear then watch this movie. That kept me away it felt like that was all the movie had going for it
I thought this was literally a movie based around Zendaya acquiring a male harem. I had no idea it was about tennis until I clicked on this video and looked at the comments.
I thought it was going to be a movie about a Tennis player who after getting her her injured, tried to take back some sense of control by sleeping with the two guys
I actually went into the movie knowing it was about tennis and starred Zendaya and didn’t know much else. I tend to avoid most promos for any movie I decide to see.
A whole bunch of people started being misogynistic, (but ‘ironically’ so that makes it okay,) when that first teaser trailer dropped, like there was a whole bunch of people who were treating a role in a movie as cheating.
I got ads for this movie that showed Zendaya kissing two guys on a bed. Based entirely on that, there is absolutely no reason I would ever believe this was about tennis. I thought it was some kind of female fantasy rom-com.
that was the point i think, they wanted to advertise it as something overly sexual so people would be drawn to it for that reason. if a movie is sexual it brings in a certain audience that comes in looking for one movie, but gets something deeper
@@4musketeers226 I am ashamed that people my age overwhelmingly like such vulgarity in their entertainment. I am not that way. While I do like intense action and violence, I like it in the context of justice, not just mindless, senseless violence present in entertainment geared toward my peers. And unlike my contemporaries, I don't like sexual content of any kind. I wish there was more mainstream entertainment tailored to my tastes, not that of my generation.
The way I hated Tashi and mainly just felt bad for Art. Yeah he tried to split them up when he was 19 but they both could see what he was doing and only fought because Tashi kept talking about tennis during their intimacy. Then he just wanted to retire and be a dad to his daughter. And the scene where hes cuddling with his daughter? Likely because shes the one person in his life he doesnt have to compete for the affection of and she loves him with or without tennis.
I felt bad for Tashi. She had her entire future ripped away from her and was used as a trophy for Patrick and Art to compete over. Also, Art is just as manipulative as Patrick and Tashi, he just took the "woe is me, I'm such a passive nice guy" route. He couldn't motivate himself, or take responsibility for himself, so he manipulated Tashi into doing it for him. Even after says he wants to retire, and she accepts, he turns around and tries to get her to light a fire under him for his match with Patrick. He was a snake too, he just wasn't as obvious about it.
Felt like he was watching it through the same lens as the Disney shows he does reviews on…completely ignoring nuance of what makes “unlikable” characters interesting.
@@Yellowfrick no it’s because he’s a straight man. If you were queer, you knew the second those two looked at each other that they were into each other. I watched it with a group of queers and we all immediately clocked it.😭🤣
@@Yellowfrickyou can’t just dictate someone else find an unlikable character interesting just because you did. He’s entitled to find her unlikable in an irredeemable way. At least make a case for why she’s supposedly so interesting despite being unlikable because I sure as hell didn’t see it
Or, and how about this, they all love each other in some ways and how you say it just flattens the characters, as well as the message of the story, it being that they all need each others, together.
@@CJ-simeonxsick I know. God I know. I swear if I see one more person saying that Tashi never loved any of the guys, or that Art and Patrick just should be together without her, I'm gonna scream.
I liked that the point of the movie wasn't who would end up with Tashi, but over all three leads redescovering their passions for tennis and each other.
While I get the concept of that, in execution I think it was handled incredibly unrealistically. It took finding out his wife cheated on him with his ex best friend, what, 12 hours ago, for him to rediscover his passion for his friendship and the sport? Like 5 minutes after he found out about it? I was gripped for the whole movie but that ending took it away so fast
bro this movie is dog water acting is dog water concept is dog water. you have bad taste. try watch pulp fiction or the town or no country for old men.
Honestly I just want the kid to not go to tashi when she and art get divorced, I feel like she'd force her daughter into tennis and try to live vicariously through her as so many parents do
Personally, it was kinda refreshing to see a movie that only ever showed male nudity when there are so many movies and shows out there which only exploit the female nudity for viewership.
@@aloofedup6448 100% agree no doubt. What I wanted to say was that there are so many shows and movies that only specifically show female nudity, one movie showing only male nudity is pretty unique. I have often seen men excited to see something that shows female nudity and make remarks about the bodies of the actresses. If the industry really wanna show nudity as art, it shouldn't just be about women to gain male viewership.
The reason that they usually show women but not men is because everyone finds the female form appealing, even gay men and straight women. and sex sells. That is why women are all over advertising regardless of what is being sold.
Alex totally missed the big rainbow🌈 in this movie. How can you watch the churros scene and not realize that this was never just a fight for Tashi? It's basically a toxic 3-way relationship in which the boys too are manipulating to win the girl, while also kinda want each other. Tashi was the one who put them against each other and got them together to see her hardcore tennis. It's super weird and messy, but I just love it!😂
These dudes literally talk about one of them teaching the other one how to jerk off, but somehow it's the random bite of churro that everyone gets stuck on.
Okay but the running gag where Alex runs off to do other things because someone is screaming for a while but instead it's awkward silence made me laugh. Nice way to subverted our expectations
Nah, the actual point of the movie is that Art and Patrick both "secretly" want to do the DEVIL'S TANGO, but they've both repressed that part of their sexuality, so their beef with each other over Tashi is just a way of letting out their frustration.
The random techno music had me and my friend dying of laughter in the theater. Nothing like a heartfelt moment with techno music blasting in the background 💀
I loved the movie, but I do not understand how I saw so many Redditors praising the soundtrack. The worst part was at the end. That last match was golden, and I love how you watch these men basically have an entire conversation without speaking a word. But there's one part where like four bars of music will play, it'll go silent for a second, and then it repeats those same bars. And that happens SO MANY TIMES. I was just like, "hit the damn ball already so Trent will know he's allowed to do something new with the music now."
It represented “the match” if you realize between every moment where they are playing with each other or making moves, it’s all a game Tashi is playing symbolized by that same music
Same! The track "match point" helps me writing a paper like some coffein kick and now it's playing on repeat and I think it will stay in my study playlist now for a while hahaha
Tashi: My life revolves around tennis. Art: My life revolves around Tashi. Patrick: My life revolves around fucking with Art. THAT is what this movie boils down to really.
Art is probably the closest thing to a good guy in this - he's just in love with his wife and isn't seeing the red flags that she's basically insane since her injury and doesn't love him. Tashi and Patrick are both deplorable people who need boatloads of therapy.
@@Phyrre56ok so no he’s really as bad as the rest, he tried to get with her even tho she was with his friend, he knew she didn’t love him, he knew that if he wanted to keep her he had to play tennis and win since she was basically using him to keep that dream of hers alive, BUT HE KNEW THAT, and he took it to be with her. And it really wasn’t the injury that drove her insane, she was before, she was always this „red flag“ but a self sustaining one, which ended when she got injured, she’s basically a parasite feeding on art. But art is letting that parasite feed on him while knowing it’s one. And let me be honest, art needs as much therapy as the rest.
God yall need media literacy classes. They are ALL obsessed with each other. Tashi's relationship and love of tennis was forever altered to include both Art and Patrick upon meeting them because she loves them: they represent everything tennis was to her, what it is and what it can be they ate literally her everything lmao. The same goes for them for her and with each other. It's a true love triangle and every sense of the word where like the director Luca states "all the corners touch".
I watched this movie an immediately thought “I wonder if Alex Myers’s made a video on this” and luckily you did. Because I really needed to hear other people be as confused as me
If you followed along throughout the movie with its metaphorical story telling you kinda knew what was gonna happen afterwards. That’s kinda the whole point of the movie is to fully understand their characters and what they truly want. I truly don’t understand how straight people are gonna enjoy this movie when there’s so much queer context they probably just don’t understand.
@@tyrannosaurusvex5703 I knew my brother was gay when he was 5... He's 22 now and I've supported him his whole life. FUCK OFF with the bullshit that I can't understand this story because I myself am not queer. Imagine ending Return of the King at Aragon's charge "because you knew where it was heading" 🤣 Bad story telling is bad story telling.
Him with that long hair . He looked so freaking cute . He literally looked like a tennis player . And the way he transformed his body later was amazing 😊
you should watch it because he misrepresents and/or eludes certain important points like Tashi saying whoever wins the match they had the next day after making out would get her number
I watched the movie and then watched this video. Imo the video misrepresents the movie, like a lot. Many things are edited to elude different things, things explained in the movie aren't shown here in order to set up a joke, etc. The movie was pretty damn good.
@genieinthepot2455 does it cliffhanger the ending or is there closure. I have small kids and don't have a ton of time to watch movies alone so I don't want to waste it on an undeserving film.
@@kp2223 depends on how you look it imo. There is closure for the emotional aspect of the film but the more on the nose relationships of the film is more up in the air.
@@taelgii There are literally people who are saying they saved money by watching this video but this review isn't even what the movie actually is. If you ask me he should honestly stick to the simpler dumbass Disney/Netflix schlock if he's not even going to try. It also brings into question his integrity with his other videos/content since he's fine putting the same amount of effort into a clearly different movie style than what he's used to/usually reviewing. But I get it, it works to lie these days you get paid a fat stack even if it's just straight up untrue. Not like anyone is fact checking the movies anyways.
I LOVED every messy, complicated, toxic, co-dependent minute of this movie! It's not cookie cutter at all. IMO, the music was used to convey the emotions of the characters versus the actual spoken words. Best film I've seen in the last few YEARS!
I thought it was weird that the guy who was so hungry and had to sleep in his car had me feeling so sorry for him, actually had a really rich family and she called him out for cosplaying be poor
He makes that silence seem like it was way longer than it actually was. And considering these guys were definitely into each other, they both were still hard after she left. Hell we even see it lol Tashi was really trying to get both of these guys, mainly Art, to actually reach their true potential, which they finally do at the end and she gets what she's always wanted from them, some good tennis. They get their friendship back and she gets the tennis playing she's always wanted. Honestly these 3 are just one big messy throuple that need to figure their shit out. The movie isn't that subtle with it's homoerotic subtext and the fact that both Patrick and Art are into dudes as well as girls and into each other.
If you watched the full scene that wasn’t shown in the trailer they were three way making out and she just slowly backed off and they didn’t notice they were only making out with each other
The techno isnt random, its when tashi or art got in “the zone”, often when theyre playing tennis. In act three the techno plays over patrick when he starts to get serious in modern day. My cousin found the sound design jarring too but i thought it was interesting! Ill never get used to the tennis moans though 😂
@@williamdixon-gk2sk No same 😂 but then I remembered the dark hair guy munching on something crispy while talking to the blond so I thought "maybe that's it?"
There "tennis is love" (btw, "love" means nothing in tennis) conversation reminds me of a debate we got into with the tennis team about what the most mentally hard sport is. Their argument was tennis because you have to mentally square off with your opponent. Long distance track's point was "we kick our own asses to run in circles for no apparent reason. No one's even chasing us." Game, set, match. We win!
I was genuinely just waiting for you to cover this movie, I didn't watch it, was just waiting for you to make a video on it because your reactions are always hilarious. As usual, worth it.
This is the kind of movie you have to watch by yourself, sorry. Alex did not do a good job summarizing because there are important parts that he left out (not to mention he edited clips in a weird manner that misintrepets a lot of the film).
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580and the review was weird as hell. He misrepresents a lot of the movie, definitely not a review. More like just using clips of a movie to make a sketch.
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580 didn’t say that was his job but people in the comments are outright saying they’re not watching the movie simply because of his opinion on the movie. i’m saying this is the kind of movie you need to form your own opinion rather than taking someone else’s word
What makes me laugh is that the guy who wrote Challengers is the husband of the woman who wrote Past Lives. And I feel like this is his confession that they should have actually ended up a thruple.
As much as I love all the nice background work you put in your videos, the moment I realized it was a poster of Barbie Princess and the Pauper at 16:04 I just cracked up😂
She always comes off so abrasive with her characters. Like she's too cool to be loved or cared about. Like being a strong person makes it so you can't have feelings. IDK I've only seen her in a few things and she just seems so serious all the time.
I know, even when she voiced Lola bunny in Space jam 2, it was the exact same thing. Either she has no range or Hollywood isn't giving her anything more to work with...
I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks this! She's great, no doubt, but her characters always have such a closed off attitude that it reads as a bit more obnoxious than intriguing
"This movie is 2 hours of just the most unlikeable people being unlikeable"! How I feel about a lot of films and tv shows where there is no character you can root for because they are all bad people.
I really really like this movie tho, I love the camera angles, the story, the characters' development, and how they use the Sport to tell us a story ✨️🛐
“The ball controls the player” is such a hilarious non-sports fan metaphor. The whole joy of sports is being better able to control where the ball goes than your opponent.
The music take is nuts. I think the soundtrack is incredibly well-fitting and original. Trent Reznor and Aticus Ross are some of the best working composers and I loved the score.
agreed! i thought the music properly captured the mood of the scenes, making us, the audience anxious when needed and filling the mood when it was necessary.
I had the opposite opinion. It was so goddamn repetitive. Every scene: *Slo-mo of someone standing or walking while some techno blares in the theater* If you go to 14:00 that’s basically the whole movie
I don’t think the music is necessarily bad it’s just overused at moments where the slow mo was too overdone and the whole movie was dragging on especially at the end.
im not a big techno fan but the music was amazing imo, really gets your heart pumping. and both of these guys are like the beauty standard, what are you talking about.
@@rachel5399you’re right. Beauty is subjective. Just leave it at that. I’m sure they’re the beauty standard for someone. And in the movie they’re both physically very fit and attractive. Just like it’s fine for you to not think this, it’s fine for others to think this.
Thank you for mentioning the music!!! I was freaking out every time it started and the sound system in the cinema was not that good... my head was about to explode
When your wife has following characteristics @s follows: *Manipulators *Cheater *Sadist *Psychopath *unsympathetic But you still love her, or say you are be fooling yourself
As a Teacher I totally understand what Greene is saying. Coaches and Organizations think the same way. Most players, once the smoke of getting knocked out settles reflect, and say to themselves "there are some things to build upon".
the movie is just three people being terrible to each other and also incredibly horny for one another lol. Its like a train wreck you can't look away from.
Challengers masters the art of storytelling through directing, acting, and cinematography. The story? Uhhh two guys and a girl ~don’t~ (?) have a threeway. Oh and there’s some tennis too.
idk if it's because i literally spent almost 20 years of my life deep in the tennis world (trained since 5 and competed for over a decade) but i find the hoopla and horniness around how people are now talking about it so cringey. my brain cannot see anything sexy or romantic about it when all my experience reminds me is "sweat in your eyes, coaches shouting at you while you're dehydrated doing drills, playing in the rain on clay courts to get us in tip top shape to win in any conditions, scraped legs and elbows from stumbling on the hard court, and being Sore"
Of course MJs kid wants to watch spider verse 💀
Fun fact, you can hear the first 2 minutes of that movie in the background. The director is shameless
Interesting
@@JeskidoYTcool
i laughed
@@JeskidoYTthe director is Francis Gallagher ?
We now have three Spider-Man girlfriends in tennis movies and three Spider-Men in war movies.
Haha yes
Which ones?
I think there's only like, 1 war movie I can vaguely remember a Spider-Man actor in; but I don't usually watch sports movies, so I have no clue about the girls ones other than this one.
@@NekoEcho13 Andrew Garfield is in Hacksaw Ridge. Idk about the other two lol. Does Infinity War count?
@@syrefayne8922 Tobey , Brothers and Holland Cherry
I got Hacksaw Ridge and The Good German, but what war movie was Tom Holland in?
We all knew this thumbnail would win
Tom Holland: And now... this world shall know Pain!
yo face would win
yep i voted for it xD
Same
Yep 😂
I knew which one would win as soon as I saw the three options
So hang on
- Weird-ass love triangle
- Characters talk like complete psychopaths
- Tennis both as a metaphor and as a character trait somehow
- 'Just two hours of the most unlikeable people being unlikeable'
...I hate to admit it, but you've sold me on this film
😂😂
Maybe you just have a cuk fantasy
Wha- why? I gotta know
Okay, the ball metaphor was pretty cool
@@kinman3051it’s a good movie tbh, it tells the story it wants to tell pretty well
Zendaya said “im too likeable. Time to play a character everyone will hate me for” 😂
"Too likable." Eh, I've never cared for her.
@@englishatheart girl, the world doesn't revolve around you, Zendaya is a much loved actress, even if you don't like her
let's normalize moving on from things we don't like, instead of being hateful
julialopes6881 no she isn't. She tucked in dune 2 an her role in spider man is a joke. But go on.
@@JesusChrist-vb8cq Again, the world doesn't revolve around you, that may be your opinion and that's okay, but critics, directors and producers disagree and continue to hire her, she has two Emmys and many fans
You may not like her, but keep your hate to yourself, because it wouldn't be cool for someone to comment mean things on your Instagram photos just because they didn't like your face 🤷🏿♀️
@@JesusChrist-vb8cqshe’s pretty good to be fair, dunes just weird eastern fetishism shit anyway, love when pple take whatever aesthetic from the middle east but don’t care about the people living there living or dying bc of american tax dollars being spent on war mongreging ..anyways
"May thy racket chip and shatter."
"May THY racket chip and shatter."
- Had to reply to this reference as soon as I saw it!
May thy racket chip and shatter
I love the internet😂
Tell me you don't have letterboxd without saying it.
Lmao
Seeing Zendaya in a mother role i surreal to me since the first time i've ever seen her was in that dancing show on diseny channel when I was 12.
Shake it up was peak
And she virtually hasnt aged since that role so she just looks like a teen mom.
Understandable, she's like... 27. Basically became a mom straight out of college, per movie timeline...
I was having the same thoughts. I first saw her when I was in college. And I just finished college. There's no way I finished college ten years ago. No way.
A mother role? Um you got that from a married woman with a daughter cheating on her husband with his ex best friend and threatening to leave him if he loses a tennis match? What I got is Tashi is a narcissist and toxic. Not a "mother role"
I know Zendaya is hot but goddamn no human is worth 13 years of mind games after a few months I’d be like “you know what there’s billions of other people on this planet I’m out”
Her characters seduction was so real 😊
What man? You don't like a mentally abusive, cheating SO? Why not?
I feel like the actual moral of this story is "A hot piece of ass isn't worth all this bullshit." Everyone in this film makes terrible life choices over and over again for garbage reasons like lust, anger, or jealousy and they'd all be happier if they each went their separate ways instead of manipulating each other in this awful triangle.
I mean they got a pretty good career. So not everything's bad
@@Phyrre56 not necessarily. they'd also all be happier with each other around, even if only in the form of friendship. this is implied through the entire movie as in that every time two characters were alone they'd talk about the third one that was not present. even the poster for the movie, with Art and Patrick reflecting on Tashi's glasses, showing that they are not suitable for any exclusive relationship between just two of any of them.
that scene where tashi comes back to art sleeping with their daughter was so sad
so sad
Why?
One of the best scenes. Unfortunately rest of movie doesn’t have the depth of that moment. Tashi would’ve been a more interesting character if she had more guilt over manipulating Patrick and Art.
It’s like ok she just wants to watch “good tennis” but ummm she has a whole family now
@@florencembah2626I don't know maybe cause she just cheated on her f***ing husband
I think to her, it’s not just watching good tennis. Playing/watching tennis is what gives her the most pleasure in life. Doesn’t get it from relationship with Art. She was desperate and usual manipulation wasn’t working. I doubt she would feel remorse. A lot of cheaters don’t until they get caught and she did it for her perceived higher stakes. When she was younger she still was manipulative, but was more for fun and trying to improve their game. She also didn’t want to get between friends. Now she doesn’t have any real options to continue closely in the game. I think she was doing what she had to do.
That hug at the end was FANTASTIC! All the missing time and friendship got summarized in that hug.
Patrick still slept with Arts wife tho. Idk if I'd consider that fantastic
Tashi got away cheating, so what will you say about that?
Biggest problem for me was the movies marketing. I forgot it was even about tennis because every promo talked about how sexy zendaya was in the movie, they didn’t care about the plot or performances. All the promos said was hey you think zendaya is hot, wanna see her in her underwear then watch this movie. That kept me away it felt like that was all the movie had going for it
I thought this was literally a movie based around Zendaya acquiring a male harem. I had no idea it was about tennis until I clicked on this video and looked at the comments.
I thought it was going to be a movie about a Tennis player who after getting her her injured, tried to take back some sense of control by sleeping with the two guys
@@SvanTowerMansame 😭😭 if i knew it was actually about tennis sooner i wouldve been so invested
I actually went into the movie knowing it was about tennis and starred Zendaya and didn’t know much else. I tend to avoid most promos for any movie I decide to see.
A whole bunch of people started being misogynistic, (but ‘ironically’ so that makes it okay,) when that first teaser trailer dropped, like there was a whole bunch of people who were treating a role in a movie as cheating.
When that little girl said, “Mommy can we watch SpiderVerse?” I felt that.
Me too
"No because I'm not in that one."
It made me feel ancient. Like, “oh god, this roughly 8 year old child is old enough to watch and enjoy Spiderverse, my mortality is upon me”
They should watch no way home
@@Ironbanner12 That reference would've gone even better.
I got ads for this movie that showed Zendaya kissing two guys on a bed. Based entirely on that, there is absolutely no reason I would ever believe this was about tennis. I thought it was some kind of female fantasy rom-com.
Read that first line as "I got abs for this movie." Was rather confused.
that was the point i think, they wanted to advertise it as something overly sexual so people would be drawn to it for that reason. if a movie is sexual it brings in a certain audience that comes in looking for one movie, but gets something deeper
I guess
Honestly was such a dis-service to movie.
@@4musketeers226 I am ashamed that people my age overwhelmingly like such vulgarity in their entertainment. I am not that way. While I do like intense action and violence, I like it in the context of justice, not just mindless, senseless violence present in entertainment geared toward my peers. And unlike my contemporaries, I don't like sexual content of any kind. I wish there was more mainstream entertainment tailored to my tastes, not that of my generation.
The way I hated Tashi and mainly just felt bad for Art. Yeah he tried to split them up when he was 19 but they both could see what he was doing and only fought because Tashi kept talking about tennis during their intimacy.
Then he just wanted to retire and be a dad to his daughter. And the scene where hes cuddling with his daughter? Likely because shes the one person in his life he doesnt have to compete for the affection of and she loves him with or without tennis.
I felt bad for Tashi. She had her entire future ripped away from her and was used as a trophy for Patrick and Art to compete over. Also, Art is just as manipulative as Patrick and Tashi, he just took the "woe is me, I'm such a passive nice guy" route. He couldn't motivate himself, or take responsibility for himself, so he manipulated Tashi into doing it for him. Even after says he wants to retire, and she accepts, he turns around and tries to get her to light a fire under him for his match with Patrick. He was a snake too, he just wasn't as obvious about it.
@@efghd2624 Tashi felt as manipulative even when she was young. Tashi is the biggest a hole in my opinion.
the way he totally missed the whole art x patrick subtext and also pure text...crazy
Felt like he was watching it through the same lens as the Disney shows he does reviews on…completely ignoring nuance of what makes “unlikable” characters interesting.
@@Yellowfrick no it’s because he’s a straight man. If you were queer, you knew the second those two looked at each other that they were into each other. I watched it with a group of queers and we all immediately clocked it.😭🤣
@@Yellowfrickyou can’t just dictate someone else find an unlikable character interesting just because you did. He’s entitled to find her unlikable in an irredeemable way. At least make a case for why she’s supposedly so interesting despite being unlikable because I sure as hell didn’t see it
@@Yellowfrick he tries hiis best but like has others things he needs to do aswell ya know
What’s funny to me the entire movie is how they used the same moan soundboard whenever they hit the ball
I noticed that too🤣
Patrick loves Art, Art loves Tashi and Tashi loves Tennis so what can we say 🤷
Or, and how about this, they all love each other in some ways and how you say it just flattens the characters, as well as the message of the story, it being that they all need each others, together.
@@mayadargeon2172Thank you for saying this that quote has been driving me crazy😭
@@CJ-simeonxsick I know. God I know. I swear if I see one more person saying that Tashi never loved any of the guys, or that Art and Patrick just should be together without her, I'm gonna scream.
@@mayadargeon2172 ill leave you if you lose is love?
@@MrWill1729 to be honest, they all are toxic. just in different ways. all in all, their expression of love can barely be called love
I liked that the point of the movie wasn't who would end up with Tashi, but over all three leads redescovering their passions for tennis and each other.
agreed plus Tashi isnt a great person anyway lol
Yes! You get it.
While I get the concept of that, in execution I think it was handled incredibly unrealistically. It took finding out his wife cheated on him with his ex best friend, what, 12 hours ago, for him to rediscover his passion for his friendship and the sport? Like 5 minutes after he found out about it? I was gripped for the whole movie but that ending took it away so fast
bro this movie is dog water acting is dog water concept is dog water. you have bad taste. try watch pulp fiction or the town or no country for old men.
@@lordofcheez5
Do you know any other descriptors?
Also, full disclosure, haven't seen the movie yet.
Honestly I just want the kid to not go to tashi when she and art get divorced, I feel like she'd force her daughter into tennis and try to live vicariously through her as so many parents do
Personally, it was kinda refreshing to see a movie that only ever showed male nudity when there are so many movies and shows out there which only exploit the female nudity for viewership.
i said the same thing. it was interesting to see a switch up like that
Exploiting nudity out of either is ridiculous
@@aloofedup6448 100% agree no doubt. What I wanted to say was that there are so many shows and movies that only specifically show female nudity, one movie showing only male nudity is pretty unique. I have often seen men excited to see something that shows female nudity and make remarks about the bodies of the actresses. If the industry really wanna show nudity as art, it shouldn't just be about women to gain male viewership.
@@ruchirachoudhary5339 Well said.
The reason that they usually show women but not men is because everyone finds the female form appealing, even gay men and straight women. and sex sells.
That is why women are all over advertising regardless of what is being sold.
I don't know if that zoom into Art's "man butt" was you or the film, but it was hilarious.
it wasnt that close up in the movie
it was alex 💀💀
@@chance757 Then he's a comedic genius because I laughed out loud.
He really picked the thumbnail we picked
Teamwork at its finest
I love democracy
I love how most people are gonna look at this comment and have no clue what yr talking about.❤😂
@@BrandonPilane if they didn’t see the poll Alex posted 😅
THE SILENCE LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I've read this comments WHILE THAT SILENCE WAS HAPPENING
I’m not there yet but now I’m excited
HELP I JUTS GOT THERE
Alex edited it to make it drawn out. I promise it wasn't that awkward if you actually watch the movie
The silence is deafening
Alex totally missed the big rainbow🌈 in this movie. How can you watch the churros scene and not realize that this was never just a fight for Tashi? It's basically a toxic 3-way relationship in which the boys too are manipulating to win the girl, while also kinda want each other. Tashi was the one who put them against each other and got them together to see her hardcore tennis. It's super weird and messy, but I just love it!😂
These dudes literally talk about one of them teaching the other one how to jerk off, but somehow it's the random bite of churro that everyone gets stuck on.
Oh, I caught onto it with the MMF relationship...
I really love this kind of analysis 😂😂😂 I screamed with the churros scene and the super weird sauna scene too
Sooooo much phallic symbolism
Yep, essentially that 3-way makeout scene was a microcosm of the entire movie
The animation in these has really been improving. He didn’t have to add that fluid little leg swing at 4:46 but it looks so clean.
Okay but the running gag where Alex runs off to do other things because someone is screaming for a while but instead it's awkward silence made me laugh. Nice way to subverted our expectations
That‘s exactly what I thought😂
Mean Girls OG was the first movie he used this gag on! 😂
Is it just me, or was anyone else waiting for Art and Patrick to just dump her and skip off into the sunset together holding hands (and rackets)?
Reall
It would've made a much healthier relationship for sure. Screw Tashi. Or wait no, don't screw her. Unless...
Nah, the actual point of the movie is that Art and Patrick both "secretly" want to do the DEVIL'S TANGO, but they've both repressed that part of their sexuality, so their beef with each other over Tashi is just a way of letting out their frustration.
WAIT HWTA
😂😂😂 My headcanon:
The director of Call Me By Your Name, everybody
I thought the same too
lol that makes no sense
I love how Alex just eventually gets tired of saying “devil’s tango”
6:52 took me OUT, that drawing was everything hahaha
6:44
“Walmart brand Ross Lynch”
Gold 😆
Lmaooo😅😅😂😂
But itssss trueeeeeee
@@TaylorTot-13 it really is. Which is why it’s funny 😆
That explains why he's attractive to me lol I've loved Ross Lynch since 2017
The ultimate victory has been yaoi all along!
Sport yaoi strike again
isnt yaoi about boys raping each other lol
You get it!! ☝🏾🤪
Challengers is another one of those movies where I had the plot in my head completely wrong, haha.
The random techno music had me and my friend dying of laughter in the theater. Nothing like a heartfelt moment with techno music blasting in the background 💀
I loved the movie, but I do not understand how I saw so many Redditors praising the soundtrack. The worst part was at the end. That last match was golden, and I love how you watch these men basically have an entire conversation without speaking a word. But there's one part where like four bars of music will play, it'll go silent for a second, and then it repeats those same bars. And that happens SO MANY TIMES. I was just like, "hit the damn ball already so Trent will know he's allowed to do something new with the music now."
I watched it online and thought either I was getting hacked or someone added it for copyright reasons. Had to pause the film and check 😂
the music played whenever the two characters were playing a "game" just like tennis.
It represented “the match” if you realize between every moment where they are playing with each other or making moves, it’s all a game Tashi is playing symbolized by that same music
Me and my sister thought the same. I kept saying 'this fucking music' 😂😂
I have not stopped listening to this soundtrack since it came out
Same it’s fucking amazing
Same. I’ve listened to the score more than 100 times now its so good
Same! The track "match point" helps me writing a paper like some coffein kick and now it's playing on repeat and I think it will stay in my study playlist now for a while hahaha
I love how Alex uses "man butt scenes" as general time slots in the movie
I did laugh out loud when her daughter wanted to watch Spiderverse xD
Tashi: My life revolves around tennis.
Art: My life revolves around Tashi.
Patrick: My life revolves around fucking with Art.
THAT is what this movie boils down to really.
Patrick meant that metaphorically and literally
Art is probably the closest thing to a good guy in this - he's just in love with his wife and isn't seeing the red flags that she's basically insane since her injury and doesn't love him. Tashi and Patrick are both deplorable people who need boatloads of therapy.
@@Phyrre56ok so no he’s really as bad as the rest, he tried to get with her even tho she was with his friend, he knew she didn’t love him, he knew that if he wanted to keep her he had to play tennis and win since she was basically using him to keep that dream of hers alive, BUT HE KNEW THAT, and he took it to be with her. And it really wasn’t the injury that drove her insane, she was before, she was always this „red flag“ but a self sustaining one, which ended when she got injured, she’s basically a parasite feeding on art. But art is letting that parasite feed on him while knowing it’s one. And let me be honest, art needs as much therapy as the rest.
God yall need media literacy classes. They are ALL obsessed with each other. Tashi's relationship and love of tennis was forever altered to include both Art and Patrick upon meeting them because she loves them: they represent everything tennis was to her, what it is and what it can be they ate literally her everything lmao. The same goes for them for her and with each other. It's a true love triangle and every sense of the word where like the director Luca states "all the corners touch".
I watched this movie an immediately thought “I wonder if Alex Myers’s made a video on this” and luckily you did. Because I really needed to hear other people be as confused as me
Ending the movie without closing a single storyline or tying to any loose ends was a bold choice of the writers
If you followed along throughout the movie with its metaphorical story telling you kinda knew what was gonna happen afterwards. That’s kinda the whole point of the movie is to fully understand their characters and what they truly want. I truly don’t understand how straight people are gonna enjoy this movie when there’s so much queer context they probably just don’t understand.
@@tyrannosaurusvex5703 I knew my brother was gay when he was 5... He's 22 now and I've supported him his whole life. FUCK OFF with the bullshit that I can't understand this story because I myself am not queer.
Imagine ending Return of the King at Aragon's charge "because you knew where it was heading" 🤣
Bad story telling is bad story telling.
You talking about how Mike Faist isn’t that attractive like he’s not the one from the movie everyone fell in love with..
Right??? Alex it's just a hater 😂
Him with that long hair . He looked so freaking cute . He literally looked like a tennis player . And the way he transformed his body later was amazing 😊
Alex is straight so his tastes in men is understandably bad.
Ion see it, but my cup of tea cant be everyone's
Mmm I agree with Alex. To each their own but I don't really see it
Watch the movie in the cinema ❌
Watch the movie here ✅
you should watch it because he misrepresents and/or eludes certain important points like Tashi saying whoever wins the match they had the next day after making out would get her number
I watched the movie and then watched this video. Imo the video misrepresents the movie, like a lot. Many things are edited to elude different things, things explained in the movie aren't shown here in order to set up a joke, etc. The movie was pretty damn good.
@genieinthepot2455 does it cliffhanger the ending or is there closure. I have small kids and don't have a ton of time to watch movies alone so I don't want to waste it on an undeserving film.
@@kp2223 depends on how you look it imo. There is closure for the emotional aspect of the film but the more on the nose relationships of the film is more up in the air.
@@genieinthepot2455 thank you, I appreciate the candor
Lmfaoooo the awkward silence part took me out 😂
Because Alex edited it that way the scene in the movie isn't nearly as drawn out
@@personperson573we know. We’re laughing at this video, not the movie.
@@taelgii No people are misinterpreting and watching the movie THROUGH this video hence forming their opinion on a non-existent film.
@@taelgii There are literally people who are saying they saved money by watching this video but this review isn't even what the movie actually is.
If you ask me he should honestly stick to the simpler dumbass Disney/Netflix schlock if he's not even going to try. It also brings into question his integrity with his other videos/content since he's fine putting the same amount of effort into a clearly different movie style than what he's used to/usually reviewing.
But I get it, it works to lie these days you get paid a fat stack even if it's just straight up untrue. Not like anyone is fact checking the movies anyways.
@@personperson573 wtf are you yapping about. Move on.
this comment section makes me feel so smart omg😭
Everyone is stupid and doesn't understand the basic ideas of the story its mind numbingly embarrassing 🤦🏾
I LOVED every messy, complicated, toxic, co-dependent minute of this movie! It's not cookie cutter at all. IMO, the music was used to convey the emotions of the characters versus the actual spoken words. Best film I've seen in the last few YEARS!
100% agree, I’ve seen it 3 times already!
Agreed! I just watched it and couldn’t look away from the screen for a second. I was just totally engrossed in the story.
I agree with everything you just said!!!
Okay you did the perfect animation at 7:42 - I laughed out loud and had to replay the scene. Thank you, good sir. ♥
The actor who plays Patrick has also played Charles in The Crown.
The guys had more chemistry with each other than with her lmaooo Zendaya slayed though,,,or rather her wardrobe
Yeah, that's what I thought the movie twist was going to be. Zendaya seemed not great in this role.
@@Sora1925to be honest though, most of Zendaya’s roles are mediocre. Except maybe Euphoria which actually showed her acting range.
@@Sora1925she produced this movie surprisingly, her magnum opus accordingly
Lmao that's the point
that was the point? She hates both of them while both men loves each other.
I thought it was weird that the guy who was so hungry and had to sleep in his car had me feeling so sorry for him, actually had a really rich family and she called him out for cosplaying be poor
Alex this is CRAZY girl, Art is so fine 😭
This movie was so hot
Real😭😭
The FINEST
He makes that silence seem like it was way longer than it actually was. And considering these guys were definitely into each other, they both were still hard after she left. Hell we even see it lol Tashi was really trying to get both of these guys, mainly Art, to actually reach their true potential, which they finally do at the end and she gets what she's always wanted from them, some good tennis. They get their friendship back and she gets the tennis playing she's always wanted. Honestly these 3 are just one big messy throuple that need to figure their shit out. The movie isn't that subtle with it's homoerotic subtext and the fact that both Patrick and Art are into dudes as well as girls and into each other.
How a girl gonna convince you to make out with you bro???😅😅😅 They wanted to do that before now they just got an excuse
Ong😂😂😂😂😂
Haven’t you heard? It’s not gay if it’s in a 3 way
@@stargold222 that wasn't a 3 way tho she just watched them... That's just gay with an observer
If you watched the full scene that wasn’t shown in the trailer they were three way making out and she just slowly backed off and they didn’t notice they were only making out with each other
@@clayongunzelle9555 ok just a joke
The techno isnt random, its when tashi or art got in “the zone”, often when theyre playing tennis. In act three the techno plays over patrick when he starts to get serious in modern day. My cousin found the sound design jarring too but i thought it was interesting! Ill never get used to the tennis moans though 😂
One of your best animations ever bro that awkward 3 way scene was funny af😂😂
Your animations are getting so good and even funnier 🤣
I’m ngl I absolutely loved how sexy the movie was without being raunchy or storyless it was actually so refreshing
Right... there was a bunch of man butt... which is fine but woman butt would be beyond the pale... right? GTFO, the show wasn't good.
calling mike faist and josh o'conor mid is CRAZY WORK alex😭😭
You can tell he's straight 😭
I guffawed at that statement. Those men are definitely good looking. Great even
Idk but i agree with him
They mid to me my bad 😭😭
Someone said they look unseasoned 💀
The fact that the chiro scene was improvised makes it better
Whats a chiro?
i wanna say they meant churro? lmao @@williamdixon-gk2sk
@@dinoeatingpeople dang, I for sure zoned out and thought it was like some Tennis thing I never heard of.
@@williamdixon-gk2sk No same 😂 but then I remembered the dark hair guy munching on something crispy while talking to the blond so I thought "maybe that's it?"
@@dinoeatingpeople in my defense "chiro" is a wild phonetic misrepresentation of churro.
I will be on his page and scroll around and have passed this 3 times and now I'm like: Alright. Let's challenge this."
There "tennis is love" (btw, "love" means nothing in tennis) conversation reminds me of a debate we got into with the tennis team about what the most mentally hard sport is. Their argument was tennis because you have to mentally square off with your opponent. Long distance track's point was "we kick our own asses to run in circles for no apparent reason. No one's even chasing us." Game, set, match. We win!
Thanks for reviewing Challengers! Everyone wouldn't stop talking about it but I was too lazy to look it up lol
I WAS SCREAMING THE WHOLE TIME IN THE THEATER HOW ART IS LITERALLY ROSS LYNCH. THANK YOU ALEX
Art is NOT Ross Lynch 😂😂
I was genuinely just waiting for you to cover this movie, I didn't watch it, was just waiting for you to make a video on it because your reactions are always hilarious.
As usual, worth it.
This is the kind of movie you have to watch by yourself, sorry. Alex did not do a good job summarizing because there are important parts that he left out (not to mention he edited clips in a weird manner that misintrepets a lot of the film).
@@aly5453it's not his job to summarize, he does reviews and commentary
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580and the review was weird as hell. He misrepresents a lot of the movie, definitely not a review. More like just using clips of a movie to make a sketch.
@@CuteAnimalVideos2580 didn’t say that was his job but people in the comments are outright saying they’re not watching the movie simply because of his opinion on the movie. i’m saying this is the kind of movie you need to form your own opinion rather than taking someone else’s word
4:49 That leg crossover just gets me every time 🤣 I would love to know how man butts plays into the metaphor.
I feel like you tried many new little animation things and rythmes in this episode, and I think the result is great and really funny!
Keep going😊
What makes me laugh is that the guy who wrote Challengers is the husband of the woman who wrote Past Lives. And I feel like this is his confession that they should have actually ended up a thruple.
That's hilarious
What's even better is that that guy in particular is the same one who made the Potion Seller video
@@grimoireweissfan6969 I've not heard of that. Clearly I need to check it out.
🤯
@@grimoireweissfan6969 yappp
As much as I love all the nice background work you put in your videos, the moment I realized it was a poster of Barbie Princess and the Pauper at 16:04 I just cracked up😂
She always comes off so abrasive with her characters. Like she's too cool to be loved or cared about. Like being a strong person makes it so you can't have feelings. IDK I've only seen her in a few things and she just seems so serious all the time.
I know, even when she voiced Lola bunny in Space jam 2, it was the exact same thing. Either she has no range or Hollywood isn't giving her anything more to work with...
@@albislopezshe picks the wrong roles imo. She either wants to be a sexy adult or a teenager
it's called having a lack of range 😅
that being said i will continue to adore and support her.
When I think about it this is so true even in that Disney dance show she was kinda serious
It’s a shame honestly
I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks this! She's great, no doubt, but her characters always have such a closed off attitude that it reads as a bit more obnoxious than intriguing
"This movie is 2 hours of just the most unlikeable people being unlikeable"! How I feel about a lot of films and tv shows where there is no character you can root for because they are all bad people.
I really really like this movie tho, I love the camera angles, the story, the characters' development, and how they use the Sport to tell us a story ✨️🛐
I love how Alex still puts images of Charlie meets pumpkin on his animations lol that's so wholesome 🥰
I am gonna be thinking about that scene of Art and Patrick sharing food for a while. (As well as the entire movie)
and it was improvised
Same (about the entire movie.) I've watched it more than once, but these comments had me feeling like an outsider lmfao.
Watching the movie : 😑
Watching your reaction : 😀
nah cmon a banger of a movie
The characters are really unlikable I was disappointed tbh
The movie was boring watching alex react to it is really fun
@onem4040 are we children? not every character has to be a linkable hero
@@theaizereMe when I paid 30$ for a sandwich and trying to convince myself it’s good:
I didn't rlly grt the ending before, but now that I do, man that's cool, I love this movie!
What is it again
“The ball controls the player” is such a hilarious non-sports fan metaphor. The whole joy of sports is being better able to control where the ball goes than your opponent.
The music take is nuts. I think the soundtrack is incredibly well-fitting and original. Trent Reznor and Aticus Ross are some of the best working composers and I loved the score.
Trent Reznor did the soundtrack? That explains the techno music..
you're in the minority then, i've heard most people saying the soundtrack is too obnoxious. it felt obnoxious even while watching the review
agreed! i thought the music properly captured the mood of the scenes, making us, the audience anxious when needed and filling the mood when it was necessary.
I had the opposite opinion. It was so goddamn repetitive.
Every scene: *Slo-mo of someone standing or walking while some techno blares in the theater*
If you go to 14:00 that’s basically the whole movie
I don’t think the music is necessarily bad it’s just overused at moments where the slow mo was too overdone and the whole movie was dragging on especially at the end.
7:21 don't you talk about my boy Mike Faist like that😭😭😭😭
and Josh O'Connor. That man is fine.
@@abrahamt4946u big mad. How dare people not think a basic white guy is good looking.
@@CalebItachoi all jokes and opinion!
im not a big techno fan but the music was amazing imo, really gets your heart pumping. and both of these guys are like the beauty standard, what are you talking about.
fr nine inch nails did it well
The "beauty standard" 😂😂😂 you have some very LOW standards.
Beauty is subjective, but these two men are not the male beauty standard, what are YOU talking about.
@@rachel5399you’re right. Beauty is subjective. Just leave it at that. I’m sure they’re the beauty standard for someone. And in the movie they’re both physically very fit and attractive. Just like it’s fine for you to not think this, it’s fine for others to think this.
Thank you for mentioning the music!!! I was freaking out every time it started and the sound system in the cinema was not that good... my head was about to explode
I absolutely love what you do and your sense of humor. You watch movies for us, so we don't have to. Thank you!
That transform animation was really quite hilarious
At the end of the movie she should've got with Waluigi, the real best tennis player
I have been laughing for a while at that "transform!" animation
When your wife has following characteristics @s follows:
*Manipulators
*Cheater
*Sadist
*Psychopath
*unsympathetic
But you still love her, or say you are be fooling yourself
How down bad are you that you will still love a bxtch like that.
This face is what killed me💀💀💀💀 6:37
As a Teacher I totally understand what Greene is saying. Coaches and Organizations think the same way. Most players, once the smoke of getting knocked out settles reflect, and say to themselves "there are some things to build upon".
I never thought I would see the day that Alex Meyers would talk about a movie directed by Luca Guadagnino.
The "Is that a threat?" line caught me off guard. LMAO. That was glorious.
6:45 😂😂😂😂😂 you are hilarious I have followed you for two years and every time I watch your video I just laugh the whole time.
"Aw yeah well tennis is like $e×... if one person is bad the whole game suffers" 😂
the movie is just three people being terrible to each other and also incredibly horny for one another lol. Its like a train wreck you can't look away from.
You can pretty easily. It was a terrible movie.
@@thomgizziz Difference between bad and not for you
@@personperson573yes there is a difference. And this movie was bad lol
@@deepfriedokra by your words doesn't mean it's objectively bad though
@@personperson573Difference between shit taste and bad film.
I see he listened to the poll😂 amazing thumbnail
TASHI HIT HIM WITH THE HAN SOLO 'I know" THE WRONG WAY. PFTTTTTT
Challengers masters the art of storytelling through directing, acting, and cinematography. The story? Uhhh two guys and a girl ~don’t~ (?) have a threeway. Oh and there’s some tennis too.
2:24 I love how we got Mj( Zendaya)’s kid asking to watch spider verse, and of course she said yes😂😂😂
I absolutely loved the soundtrack! I think it definitely kept that energy up, and you always feel like you're watching a match.
Glad I partook in choosing the thumbnail
idk if it's because i literally spent almost 20 years of my life deep in the tennis world (trained since 5 and competed for over a decade) but i find the hoopla and horniness around how people are now talking about it so cringey. my brain cannot see anything sexy or romantic about it when all my experience reminds me is "sweat in your eyes, coaches shouting at you while you're dehydrated doing drills, playing in the rain on clay courts to get us in tip top shape to win in any conditions, scraped legs and elbows from stumbling on the hard court, and being Sore"
You experienced it. They didn't. Of course y'all would have different opinions.
@@mal_348 i mean... yeah, duh? and i'm just expressing my opinion so what's your point?
@@gab.bee123 you seemed mad pissed.
lmao the only "pissed" person is you for some reason @velmad, why so aggro
@@justAiose ??
LOVED The soundtrack I was dancing in my seat everytime lol. Also it’s now on my gym playlist
best description so far I've seen of the movie was a comment on tiktok saying "It's about 2 guys in love and a girl in love with tennis"