The defense going with a mental immaturity strategy doesn’t align with the premeditated SA that occurred, being mentally more “4 or 6” years old doesn’t match the s3xual component of this crime he said he knew what he was doing and he knew he was going to do it when he lead her there. This wasn’t just a fantasy he actually did all of these things to someone he knew loved and trusted him, adult court is the only place for him.
I’m assuming he’ll be put in an adult prison until he’s 18 and will be put in a juvenile one until then. He’s still too young to be put in with men surely?
Only in the USA and other western countries keep treating teenage like babies in pampers 😂😂it time these old outdated minor laws being updated why are we still living on laws 200 or 300 is making no sense 🤔
I wouldn’t say I agree entirely because children don’t have the same rights as adults do, but being a minor should definitely not give you a free pass to break the law.
Children don't belong in adult court, if they did we wouldn't have a juvenile system. I guess I don't really understand how R-ing & K-ing a 10 year old is an "adult" thing to do, seems pretty immature to me.. he deserves prison & he should probably be put into a psychiatric facility indefinitely but it seems pointless to have a juvenile court system just to charge & sentence 14 year Olds as if they're adults when their brains don't fully develop for at least another decade.
@@ick.zostedthe juvenile court system is for kids who get in trouble. Trouble stealing, trouble fighting, etc ... When you murder and assault a 10 year old girl's body, you deserve to be treated like the monster you are, with true repercussions.
@@refinnej5302 My point was, if you think a 14 year old should be tried as an adult, then following that same logic, I guess they should be able to do all those other things. They are adults, right?
he clearly needs help, but that doesn't mean he has the right to be free when he's treated or have less sentence bcuz he's a child. he should to be locked up forever.
Oh there will be plenty of people who will say oh no, he was just a boy and "the brain isn't fully developed until age 25" A 14 yr old surely knows that SA and taking the life of another is wrong, you don't have to be 25 to figure that out
There are always investigations into the history of serial killers, asking if there were any warning signs when they were children. If this isn’t the mother of all warning signs, what possibly could be?
Not even surpised . Of course his parents were wrong one's , they almost always are with these wrong one kids . It's almost always the apple and the tree
not all crimes are adult crimes. this one seems very complex and i would consider this an adult crime, but we can't ignore that children's brains are not yet fully developed. some crimes are not thought through and are based in immaturity and a child's lack of experience.
@@angienagtalon9691That’s why he is not being considered for the death penalty, but that’s as far as it goes! This was an egregious, incomprehensible crime that he committed against a little tiny girl! He knew what he did was wrong but did it anyway and defiled her body after the murder! This was an adult crime so he should be tried as an adult!!
I remember when this happened. She was just visiting her Aunt. He followed her and it was premeditated. She was a baby. Condolences 💐 once again to her father and loved ones.
I don't hate land mines. They can't help what they are. But I do fear them. If I find a land mine on my property I'll call the cops and have it disposed of because it is unsafe for people to be near it. A land mine is a dangerous, soulless killer. This kid is a land mine.
What a horrible death this innocent young girl must have experienced. If this POS is capable of this act at 14, imagine how many other crimes he would have committed once he got older.
It used to be you were warned to be wary of strangers now you have to teach your children to be just as wary of family members who happen to be predators. What an insane world we live in.
@@shelch Secondo la mia modestissima opinione, questi ragazzi che commettono questa tipo di crimini, non sono spinti da forti pulsioni sessuali, che non riescono a mitigare,ma sono ispirati da modelli comportamentali che vivono in famiglia e vedono nella società che ha ancora forti radici nel modello patriarcale PS. Certamente c'è anche la persona con forti turbe mentali.
I don’t believe he has his emotional state was that of a 4 year old. He knew how to hurt her, kill her and cover it up. He is smart regardless and is disability doesn’t excuse it.
@@Francina-g5o Probably because they are being careful to not violate Wisconsin Stat. § 938.299(1)(a): ... a representative of the news media who wishes to attend the hearing for the purpose of reporting news without revealing the identity of the juvenile involved and other persons requested by a party and approved by the court may be present.
They also say she is allegedly his cousin, but they can't confirm that due to privacy concerns. It is the same as saying that she is his cousin, but because she is his cousin, we cannot say
His family will fight and fight and fight and get him out and he will do it againq, and again, and again. That's the sad part about it these parents just won't accept did their babies now a monster
Grim. Two children's families & friends lives wrecked. I wonder i the boy's pedophilic father preyed on his own son or involved his son in any of his pedophilic acts? Would this change his sentencing?
These doctors give me pause with those diagnosis that he is not safe to be around others. To hear a doctor say “ he will grow out of it” is mind blowing
It’s confirmed it’s her cousin. The family of Lily (also the family of Carson) have made posts asking for people to not demonize his immediate family. They’ve actually shown a pretty honorable amount of sympathy for his parents and even him himself.
Carson's dad spent time in prison for having child 🌽. I went to school with his dad. I didn't suspect anything then, but yeah. He wasn't a great person. Unfortunately, there's a lot going on with that extended family.
Absolutely true, but far too many of these kids don't know beforehand that they will be sentenced to jail, probably for life, for murder. Many think they will get a slap on the wrist as they have for prior convictions. They don't think about consequences.
6:52 LAW AND CRIME. I love you but this was almost too far. Jesse says this poor angel was found covered with leaves, so the next photo you use of her is her in a LEAF PILE?!?!? Are you fvcking kidding me???? The ad breaks are less tone-deaf, but this is FAR WORSE. Get a clue.
I looked for this comment. Totally despicable and definitely INTENTIONAL editing. That was NOT a coincidence. I feel disgusted by this-somebody did that on purpose, did they think we wouldn’t notice or care???
His mental health should only be a factor if he had hurt her in like a fit of rage or like a psychotic break, but even if this wasn’t planned autism and depression have nothing to do with what he did. Especially if he was keeping up in school without additional services
He was definitely her cousin, they confirmed that when the crime occurred. She went to her aunt's house and the perpetrator, her cousin, was walking her home.
ASD children "don't understand"? I am a special education teacher working with children with autism. We have a nonverbal au student who's around 7. They liked LIKED to push until we made interventions so every time they pushed they had an immediate redirection/"punishment" that was suitable for the kid. Hasn't pushed in over a year. 🙄🙄
I mean imagine being a nonverbal child with severe special needs and when people talk about you it was about all those times they punished you... You're definitely not the hero You Think You Are, I don't need to know what's wrong with your statement to know something isn't right. You're giving off the vibe a lot of the group home staff did where they were really lite abusers but always talks about how they were actually helping us... Your statement was solely about all those times you had to punish a nonverbal child, there's something seriously wrong with them developmentally if they're nonverbal. Abuse... 😂
So sad for Lily’s family. They’ll never get her back, no matter what happens. She was just a kid on her bike, thinking she was safe with him walking her home. He utterly betrayed her trust. Horrifically. Now he has destroyed her family’s and well as his own family’s lives, his own future. RIP Lily.
It's time for culpability in cases like these to be extended to the parents of these 'sick' 'juveniles'. PARENTS are responsible for civil damages their kids do so why not the criminal acts???? Somebody explain to me please............
Yet kaivon washington is accused of r@ping two drunk women and a 12 year old girl and you want to throw him a parade Didn't madison brooks end up dead at the end of the night
Many cases of minors committing crimes nowadays… they are mostly not insane… so the justice system must act and send the RIGHT message… crime is crime and JAIL is the punishment.
I remember this story like it was yesterday yes he need to go to adult court nothing less is this was minority. They wouldn’t be talking about juvenile court.
Ok it’s wrong we all know that…. But he was 14 … and they say that he was thinking like an adult…….. let that sink in … the next time someone says a child under 18 doesn’t think like an adult …. Show them all the videos putting children in adult courts and then tell them to say that children don’t think like adults and act like adults and want to be like adults…
Download the FREE Upside App at upside.app.link/sidebar to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas.
If he's capable of this at 14 he's a monster!
Lock him up for life!
The defense going with a mental immaturity strategy doesn’t align with the premeditated SA that occurred, being mentally more “4 or 6” years old doesn’t match the s3xual component of this crime he said he knew what he was doing and he knew he was going to do it when he lead her there. This wasn’t just a fantasy he actually did all of these things to someone he knew loved and trusted him, adult court is the only place for him.
@@Myosotis.journaling Very well said 👏
I completely agree!
Blame the parents he's just a kid. during his childhood something went wrong
Since when were 14 yrs old was considered an adult?
@@__-nd5qiAmerica
Adult choices deserve adult consequences. If he didn't want to go to adult prison, he should have thought about that before doing what he did.
I’m assuming he’ll be put in an adult prison until he’s 18 and will be put in a juvenile one until then. He’s still too young to be put in with men surely?
Only in the USA and other western countries keep treating teenage like babies in pampers 😂😂it time these old outdated minor laws being updated why are we still living on laws 200 or 300 is making no sense 🤔
I wouldn’t say I agree entirely because children don’t have the same rights as adults do, but being a minor should definitely not give you a free pass to break the law.
Children don't belong in adult court, if they did we wouldn't have a juvenile system. I guess I don't really understand how R-ing & K-ing a 10 year old is an "adult" thing to do, seems pretty immature to me.. he deserves prison & he should probably be put into a psychiatric facility indefinitely but it seems pointless to have a juvenile court system just to charge & sentence 14 year Olds as if they're adults when their brains don't fully develop for at least another decade.
@@ick.zostedthe juvenile court system is for kids who get in trouble. Trouble stealing, trouble fighting, etc ... When you murder and assault a 10 year old girl's body, you deserve to be treated like the monster you are, with true repercussions.
His name is Carson Peters-Berger. Carson Peters-Berger is the accused
They show his face but couldn't show his name 🤷🤦🤦
@@amcc5887you legally can’t reveal a minors name
He's still a kid. u don't need to write his name on social media
@@godhg9694 Is you mad? Why is you defending a kid who is crystal guilty?
@swallowedinthesea11 I think they said why, "he's still a kid."
14 committing murder and necrophilia SA. Sickening. Adult crime Adult TiME.
14 year olds should also be able to drink, smoke, drive, marry, and serve in the military as well.
@@justthatgirl-ct4jo you don't have to brag that you're a horrible parent.
@@justthatgirl-ct4joI don’t even think people under 25 should be getting married or having kids or that type of stuff.
@@refinnej5302 My point was, if you think a 14 year old should be tried as an adult, then following that same logic, I guess they should be able to do all those other things. They are adults, right?
@@hudsongraham649 I agree. They also shouldn't be tried as an adult for the exact same reasons you wouldn't want them doing the rest of that stuff
What a horrible crime against Lily 😢. Throw away the key…he will never be rehabilitated😡
How do u know
he clearly needs help, but that doesn't mean he has the right to be free when he's treated or have less sentence bcuz he's a child. he should to be locked up forever.
Oh there will be plenty of people who will say oh no, he was just a boy and "the brain isn't fully developed until age 25" A 14 yr old surely knows that SA and taking the life of another is wrong, you don't have to be 25 to figure that out
He does not need help. He's a monster.
And we're just seeing this part but we don't know if that mf was touching her...
He should never be released and I stand by that.
Your a horrible person
A 14 year old boy knows what he is doing. He should be charged as an adult. 😢
It's his parents fault, something went wrong during his childhood.
Depends on situation but in this case I think yes he knew.
There are always investigations into the history of serial killers, asking if there were any warning signs when they were children. If this isn’t the mother of all warning signs, what possibly could be?
What?
Lolzz
Yr ridiculous
@@007nadineLnothing ridiculous about it
Exactly! His cousin would just be his first victim if he is allowed back into society.
He's already killed that's not a sign it's a crime lol I see what you're trying to say but it's just not working lol
autism is not an excuse and neither is depression - he INTENTIONALLY lured that little girl to her unaliving. bad seeds cant be fixed.
You, are why the electoral college exists. Needs to exist. Congratulations. ⌚
Why are people saying a word rhat diminishes the act.He murdered her.
@@eh-i1841 I thumbs downed that comment and am here after I got a notification for yours.
CARSON PETERS-BERGER is his name. Wtf??? And, his dad is a convicted PDF file and registered SO(ffender), as well. The apple and all.
ugh that makes it even worse. how despicable.
My word how horrific
Not even surpised . Of course his parents were wrong one's , they almost always are with these wrong one kids . It's almost always the apple and the tree
Omg 😮
The apple don't fall far from the tree
I feel like all crimes are adult crimes..... but this is not a mistake... you cant be soft on someone who planned and executed a killing..
not all crimes are adult crimes. this one seems very complex and i would consider this an adult crime, but we can't ignore that children's brains are not yet fully developed. some crimes are not thought through and are based in immaturity and a child's lack of experience.
@@angienagtalon9691That’s why he is not being considered for the death penalty, but that’s as far as it goes! This was an egregious, incomprehensible crime that he committed against a little tiny girl! He knew what he did was wrong but did it anyway and defiled her body after the murder! This was an adult crime so he should be tried as an adult!!
Adult crimes should automatically allow adult trials even for children. Absolutely horrific.
This line of thinking has never made sense to me. How does harming someone else turn a child into an adult?
Pure evil
One Word ..... Monster
he had an evil spirit in him..he was sick blame the parents
One word ..... forgive
A very adult thing to do so he should be charged as an adult. Period 🇨🇦
When you're 14 years old you know wrong from right there's no excuses
I agree. There's no rehabilitating this dude! If he was let out his crimes would probably escalate!✌🏼
I remember when this happened. She was just visiting her Aunt. He followed her and it was premeditated. She was a baby. Condolences 💐 once again to her father and loved ones.
He’s should be locked up forever. If this is what he’s doing at 14 like naw this guy should not be allowed out
Nope. He commutes a big boy crime he deserves to be charged as an adult..! PERIOD.
That little girl never had a chance. She had nothing but terrible people around her.
Poor child, this is horrific
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Autism is no excuse. He was more than capable of knowing better.
It is people with ASD mind works difficult
I don't hate land mines. They can't help what they are. But I do fear them. If I find a land mine on my property I'll call the cops and have it disposed of because it is unsafe for people to be near it. A land mine is a dangerous, soulless killer. This kid is a land mine.
I like it! What you said, not the crime.😆
Damn you see that kid's happy face on the thumbnail and can't imagine that happening to her. Truly evil monsters out there.
It’s so sickening.Old enough to think of doing such a thing.He planned it.He should be given life,with no parole.Poor girl,to have him for a cousin.
It was his intention? I’m guessing he thought he would get a slap on the wrist because of his age , oh well he thought wrong.
I don’t think he was thinking about anything beyond killing that poor girl.
What a horrible death this innocent young girl must have experienced. If this POS is capable of this act at 14, imagine how many other crimes he would have committed once he got older.
Already tainted by evil.
Try him as an adult and jail him for life!
Crime deserves punishment.
It used to be you were warned to be wary of strangers now you have to teach your children to be just as wary of family members who happen to be predators. What an insane world we live in.
No, it's always been that way. You're around family more than strangers. Most CSA cases involved a family member or family friend.
RIP beautiful Lily 💔 how absolutely heartbreaking
Needs to be in prison for life! No exceptions!
Sure let’s use ASD as a defense…. Tf???????
autism is the go to excuse for all bad behavior nowadays.
It’s ADD
@@skyeblu1722No it's not. It was called ASD several times during the video.
@skyeblu1722 wrong ASD is something different there is a ADD but also a ASD (Autism spectrum disorder )
Just Sick and disturbing
Committing adult things!!! Deserves adult prison!!
Nope I disagree !
@@user-zv8gd3jl7q you must have a son just like him🤢🤮
I'd say this wasn't even an "adult" thing but a thing only a MONSTER would do.
@@shelch
Secondo la mia modestissima opinione, questi ragazzi che commettono
questa tipo di crimini, non sono spinti da forti pulsioni sessuali,
che non riescono a mitigare,ma sono ispirati da modelli comportamentali che vivono in famiglia e vedono
nella società che ha ancora forti radici nel modello patriarcale
PS. Certamente c'è anche la persona con forti turbe mentali.
He isn't an adult. Therefore this isn't an "adult thing." Clearly people of all ages commit heinous crimes.
You have to be accountable and responsible for your actions no matter how old you are.
He should be locked up for a very long time
RIP, Lily
She was his cousin
"never investigated a child's death, but i've been involved with them" uhh sir, what are u saying here? LOL
Yeah definitely sounded serial killerish lmao
@@TheFifthOfNovember93A Freudian slip? No. He’s probably assisted another agency with a case.
Probably meant he wasn’t lead investigator but due to his position, oversaw the cases
He should get help but he should also remain locked up hopefully
Life sentence!😢
I don’t believe he has his emotional state was that of a 4 year old. He knew how to hurt her, kill her and cover it up. He is smart regardless and is disability doesn’t excuse it.
SHE WAS HIS COUSIN ‼️😢😢🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤬 WHY SHOW HIS PICTURE THEN ⁉️ HE DID A ADULT CRIME HE SHOULD DO ADULT TIME ‼️
Showed his picture but can’t say his name 🙄
C@@Francina-g5o, unbelievable isn't it 🤦🤦🤷🤷🤷
Yes I had a feeling that I knew this case, I was listening but they seem to not said it in this video, strange
@@Francina-g5o Probably because they are being careful to not violate Wisconsin Stat. § 938.299(1)(a): ... a representative of the news media who wishes to attend the hearing for the purpose of reporting news without revealing the identity of the juvenile involved and other persons requested by a party and approved by the court may be present.
They also say she is allegedly his cousin, but they can't confirm that due to privacy concerns. It is the same as saying that she is his cousin, but because she is his cousin, we cannot say
His eyes look evil in his school picture.
He's evil! He should never be out...
He's a child who mad a mistake are you perfect
Ive been waiting to hear about this case. Its horrific. I heard about it when first reported. Justice for Lilly❤
That photo of her with the shirt reading “Justice” just tore me apart 😢
Justice ameen
The people crying for the murderer wouldn't be ready to put him in with troubled youth if it were their daughter! Sick
His family will fight and fight and fight and get him out and he will do it againq, and again, and again. That's the sad part about it these parents just won't accept did their babies now a monster
Never see the sun again.
No redemption.
Grim. Two children's families & friends lives wrecked. I wonder i the boy's pedophilic father preyed on his own son or involved his son in any of his pedophilic acts? Would this change his sentencing?
Life without parole..next
How could you possibly be so heart less. He's a baby who made one poor decision. Your acting like you never done anything wrong
After hearing the crimes of his father, I wonder if he himself was a victim?? Not that it excuses his actions, but it would explain them.
These doctors give me pause with those diagnosis that he is not safe to be around others. To hear a doctor say “ he will grow out of it” is mind blowing
You do not outgrow pdfila
Doctors, judges, professionals of high up, make make mistakes and errors in judgement alot more then anyone would like to admit
Predators don't grow out of it. They do it again as soon as they are free again
It’s confirmed it’s her cousin. The family of Lily (also the family of Carson) have made posts asking for people to not demonize his immediate family. They’ve actually shown a pretty honorable amount of sympathy for his parents and even him himself.
his dad is a pdfile.
Carson's dad spent time in prison for having child 🌽.
I went to school with his dad. I didn't suspect anything then, but yeah. He wasn't a great person. Unfortunately, there's a lot going on with that extended family.
So heartbreaking
Prayers for her family
If they notice a pattern then why are they allowed to have custody of their children when they have these kinds of convictions?
What a disgusting monster!🤮
"It was his intention"....😒
He can't be rehabilitated
Prison for life
He shouldn't have committed the crime if he was afraid of adult prison. You are showing his face, but you can't share his name.
He has a sweet face. That might not help him, if he ends up in prison
Absolutely true, but far too many of these kids don't know beforehand that they will be sentenced to jail, probably for life, for murder. Many think they will get a slap on the wrist as they have for prior convictions. They don't think about consequences.
Googled it and multiple source reported Carson Peters-Berger he is. Now the fact that name is changeable for him...
@margaretlumley1648 Not a sweet face. Smirking and scary.
needle
Don’t ask why he why he went back .
The legal system cherry picking is why criminal justice reform is a thing.
Wood chipper
This is "Demonic"
Jesse is such a genuine guy ❤
Mike Meyers. Watch the Rob Zombie iterations and you will see this kid.
Why do the courts allow media to show his picture but not say his name?
He sounds like an up and coming Ted Bundy !!! Evil lives 😮.
Blaming it on Autism is BLOWING MY MIND 😡🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
This is her cousin for gods sake. Her first cousin.
I don't have kids but if I did, and my daughter was murdered by a family member, I don't think I could ever forgive them
Usual Suspect 😊
LOL his IQ was soooooo high!!!
Huh? Male you mean?
@@Kite166 Yours clearly isn't.
Ok kiddo. Look up stats. 😂
@@spacemanspliff7983 no the anglo saxon
6:52 LAW AND CRIME. I love you but this was almost too far.
Jesse says this poor angel was found covered with leaves, so the next photo you use of her is her in a LEAF PILE?!?!? Are you fvcking kidding me????
The ad breaks are less tone-deaf, but this is FAR WORSE. Get a clue.
I looked for this comment. Totally despicable and definitely INTENTIONAL editing. That was NOT a coincidence. I feel disgusted by this-somebody did that on purpose, did they think we wouldn’t notice or care???
His mental health should only be a factor if he had hurt her in like a fit of rage or like a psychotic break, but even if this wasn’t planned autism and depression have nothing to do with what he did. Especially if he was keeping up in school without additional services
You already showed his picture why not his name?
Legality they don’t want to get sued
His name is Carson Peters-Berger
He was definitely her cousin, they confirmed that when the crime occurred. She went to her aunt's house and the perpetrator, her cousin, was walking her home.
I think CPB should be charged in adult court. I hate to say it, but things kind of offenders cannot be rehabilitated. They will reoffend. Always.
ASD children "don't understand"? I am a special education teacher working with children with autism. We have a nonverbal au student who's around 7. They liked LIKED to push until we made interventions so every time they pushed they had an immediate redirection/"punishment" that was suitable for the kid. Hasn't pushed in over a year. 🙄🙄
What’s your point?… “special needs” is evolving daily, we are all in the spectrum…
I mean imagine being a nonverbal child with severe special needs and when people talk about you it was about all those times they punished you... You're definitely not the hero You Think You Are, I don't need to know what's wrong with your statement to know something isn't right. You're giving off the vibe a lot of the group home staff did where they were really lite abusers but always talks about how they were actually helping us... Your statement was solely about all those times you had to punish a nonverbal child, there's something seriously wrong with them developmentally if they're nonverbal. Abuse... 😂
Prison justice 😡
Oh my heart 😩😭💔
Who failed him?
The father
You know, you know........ is this guy educated.
So sad for Lily’s family. They’ll never get her back, no matter what happens. She was just a kid on her bike, thinking she was safe with him walking her home. He utterly betrayed her trust. Horrifically. Now he has destroyed her family’s and well as his own family’s lives, his own future. RIP Lily.
It's time for culpability in cases like these to be extended to the parents of these 'sick' 'juveniles'. PARENTS are responsible for civil damages their kids do so why not the criminal acts???? Somebody explain to me please............
He's guilty as sin!
He needs to be in prison till atleast his 50s .
No for life, period.
Yet kaivon washington is accused of r@ping two drunk women and a 12 year old girl and you want to throw him a parade
Didn't madison brooks end up dead at the end of the night
Many cases of minors committing crimes nowadays… they are mostly not insane… so the justice system must act and send the RIGHT message… crime is crime and JAIL is the punishment.
adorable girl, hate stories like this
chippewa falls represent :/
Adult crime deserves adult time! People act so ignorant when it comes childrens ability to know right from wrong!
I never heard she was SA, I was same age and she was my friend, I still miss her to this day, fly high lilly❤
Children are innocent? I don’t care how old he is? Contradictory ?
I remember this story like it was yesterday yes he need to go to adult court nothing less is this was minority. They wouldn’t be talking about juvenile court.
Ok it’s wrong we all know that…. But he was 14 … and they say that he was thinking like an adult…….. let that sink in … the next time someone says a child under 18 doesn’t think like an adult …. Show them all the videos putting children in adult courts and then tell them to say that children don’t think like adults and act like adults and want to be like adults…
Off topic, but I never noticed before how much the WI and Maine accents sound alike, similar vowel inflections; trippy.