understand now why I've not seen a lot posted. looking forward to seeing more on Idler rebuild, I never thought I'd enjoy watching the building of a Sculling oar but I must admit it was enjoyable to watch. cheers.
Just a comment so that you know that you are missed!!! I hope that when the timing is right for you, these videos might be restarted so that we can continue to follow the restoration of Idler!!! I pray that all is well with you and yours!
Just thought I'd write and say hi. Hope everything's going well with you and yours and looking forward to seeing your progress on Idler when you have time again. All the best...
Hey, Thank you for thinking about Idler and the project! I can confirm that it is still ticking along and has been gathering a bit of momentum the past few months! which is good! Im hoping to start releasing videos again soon.. but i cant promise any dates. but id like to think there'd be a video up by the start of the summer. :D
Hi, It's nice to see you again. Quite funny hear you talking about heavy work. I've seen 40kg chinese women mowing their boats like this. Full of cargo. :)
Hello and cheers with a swig of cheap bourbon from olde Cape Cod! I've watched your entire catalog and I can honesty say that this channel is borderline criminally undersubscribed. The production quality, craftsmanship, and persona is top notch and equal to A2A, The Art Of Boatbuilding, and many others. I hope that the algorithm eventually favors you because its well deserved. CHEERS!
Haha, I hope you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for the generous feedback, you really are too kind! Im really glad you enjoyed the project thus far. I know its been a while but i am looking forward to resuming filming soon! so stick with me! :D
Hi! great to see someone building a sculling oar! I made one a few years ago for my 26 foot keeler (a raven 26, 2.5 tonne fiberglass sloop) not as nice as yours, but I could get 1.5 knots! I had a larger blade than you, flat on the back, curved on the front. set off center so the lanyard didn't interfere with the tiller. I originally had a straight oar, rotating it by hand, but my hands got sore. Then I cut the shaft, and bolted on a new one at an slight (5 degree?) angle. Mine pivoted on a pin on the transom with a socket in the oar, later I added more sockets so I had "gears" just moving the pivot could make a big difference. I think maybe it was 20cm from top to bottom socket. I'm sorry I can't give more accurate details, am a long way from that boat currently. I didn't use it very often because although I was sailing engineless, if there was even a little bit of wind it was easier to sail, but several times it did get me to a point I could drop anchor and sleep, or across the bay, and once into and out of a small marina - without hitting anything! (the one time I took that boat into a marina)
Great to see you again. I was wondering if everything was ok but the "baby on board" explained everything. Congratulations. Also nice to see the Lomonds again in the background...
Thank you, im glad you know tge area! Idler is still here and im plodding away getting what i can done when i can. Difficult with the baby however. Id like to see the project pick up the pace abit in the next few weeks as the wain finds his balance. Thank you for your patience! 👌🏻
Thanks bud, i hear you 100%, Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration; so it will happen! Thank you for you patience! 🙌
My wife sailed on “Le Glenan” in 1981, when Glenans had bases in Ireland. She was a 45’ wooden cutter with a crew of 10. She had no motor but could go into places like Derrynane in Kerry with her sculling oar. People took turns sculling.
Great video, great build. I’m a little fuzzy on how you determined the over all dimension’s to best suit your boat. Oh and by the way it’s awesome to see you are grooming some young new crew members.
Thank you! Thank you for watching, the oar was largely determined by eyeing up the length of a side of a triangle. One side: being from the waterline to hip height when standing in the cockpit. The shaft length is the length from this height back over the transom to meet the waterline again. I then added the “blade to this length that i determined by eye. Shaft thickness was on the cautious side of extra strength. But i am sure i could reduce the thickness and thus weight of the oar by quite a-bit having spent some time playing with it now. Hope that makes sense?
As a former (Canadian) coast guard officer I echo your comments that RNLI and similar services are not really there to get foolish folks back to shore but unfortunately it’s a major component of the job these days. Missed the Idler episodes and hope to see you back at it soon
Hi, thank you for your support! Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration are still here so it will happen! Thank you for your patience!
I’ve been sculling since I was a teen in the sea scouts. When it clicked, I immediately figured out how to scull in reverse. Glad to hear your comment on that too. We always had the sculling eye(?) off-centre on starboard, to keep it out of the way of the tiller and the mainsail sheet. Any particular reason yours is centered?
Great point, and something i didnt cover in the episode. I would have liked an off centre rowlock for exactly the reason you stated and it might be possible following changes to the outboard cover in the boat. But at present with her narrow pintail and taffrail the only place that allows for enough movement if the oar is from a central location. Unfortunalty! - idlers will be offset 👍
Thanks for this video. I am going to build a sculling oar this spring for our 28 ft Bristol Channel Cutter. I was going to take an oar building class but now I don't feel I need to. What kind of wood did you use, and how did you derive the angle of the blade to the shaft?
Haha, brilliant! i hope im not to late in the feedback department to help you! The wood is regular building pine. They call it redwood here fro some reason, but i think that's yellow pine in the states. I used this because it was cheap and would do the job. You want a straight grained, light evergreen species, Spruce, larch, a variety of pines... its not an exact science and there are pros and cons to different woods that are to much for this post. The angel was determined by the hight of the transom from the water level. vs the length of the shaft relative to the rowlock (pivot point. Basicaly i lay a straight spar in the rowlock, positioned the handle where i wanted it and at the right hight. Then went aft, then eyeballed where it ought to bend to drop the blade into the water within a reasonable length of the transom. Youll want the pivot point to be roughly in the middle of the oar with the heavier end outboard. Hope some of that helps. Let me know if you would like any more info. Cheers, Nick
I think the sculling. oar would be more efficient if the blade had a 15 or 20 degree hinge between blade and shaft like a fishes tail in not fixed on one plane it bends at the start of the stroke then flicks through 40 degrees to start the next stroke.
Hi Marlon, i see your thinking and i reckon that that would be a considerable engineering problem… however if you reimagine a skulling oars motion more like that of a snake swimming than a propeller turning it appears (to me at least less inefficient)… Food for thought at least 😊
Hey, Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration are still here so it will happen! Thank you for your patience!
Bravo and thank you for your comments on seamanship. Loved the scene with the wee one strapped to you, i lived many happy yearsdoing projects like that!
Haha thank you! Norway FTW! 😎🤙🏻 Thank you for the understanding on the Children! They are wonderful and cant wait for the boat to be finished; well the one that can speak anyway 🤣. I hope i dont keep her waiting to much longer!
Yeah a big sculling oar is def gona move a smaller sail boat. "How to sail oceans" he has an old double ender he has no engine and sails everywhere. Sculling his way in and out. Tho he did recently make a lil outboard mount. He holds it on his thigh/waist to use whole body to push it. Technique is critical with sculling
understand now why I've not seen a lot posted. looking forward to seeing more on Idler rebuild, I never thought I'd enjoy watching the building of a Sculling oar but I must admit it was enjoyable to watch. cheers.
Just a comment so that you know that you are missed!!! I hope that when the timing is right for you, these videos might be restarted so that we can continue to follow the restoration of Idler!!! I pray that all is well with you and yours!
Hey! Im working on a wee short just now just to keep you all up dated, it should be with you in a few days! 💪🏻👍 thank you so much for your patience!!
Family first, Idler will wait for you and reward you in good time.
Thank you for your patience and understanding! 🤙🏻
Just thought I'd write and say hi. Hope everything's going well with you and yours and looking forward to seeing your progress on Idler when you have time again. All the best...
Hey, Thank you for thinking about Idler and the project! I can confirm that it is still ticking along and has been gathering a bit of momentum the past few months! which is good! Im hoping to start releasing videos again soon.. but i cant promise any dates. but id like to think there'd be a video up by the start of the summer. :D
Hi, It's nice to see you again. Quite funny hear you talking about heavy work. I've seen 40kg chinese women mowing their boats like this. Full of cargo. :)
They are made of stouter stuff than me! 🤣
FINE BUSINESS!!! CHEERS from HERE! Westcoast Canada!
Hello and cheers with a swig of cheap bourbon from olde Cape Cod! I've watched your entire catalog and I can honesty say that this channel is borderline criminally undersubscribed. The production quality, craftsmanship, and persona is top notch and equal to A2A, The Art Of Boatbuilding, and many others. I hope that the algorithm eventually favors you because its well deserved. CHEERS!
Haha, I hope you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for the generous feedback, you really are too kind! Im really glad you enjoyed the project thus far. I know its been a while but i am looking forward to resuming filming soon! so stick with me! :D
Nice video!
Thank you!
Hi! great to see someone building a sculling oar! I made one a few years ago for my 26 foot keeler (a raven 26, 2.5 tonne fiberglass sloop) not as nice as yours, but I could get 1.5 knots! I had a larger blade than you, flat on the back, curved on the front. set off center so the lanyard didn't interfere with the tiller. I originally had a straight oar, rotating it by hand, but my hands got sore. Then I cut the shaft, and bolted on a new one at an slight (5 degree?) angle. Mine pivoted on a pin on the transom with a socket in the oar, later I added more sockets so I had "gears" just moving the pivot could make a big difference. I think maybe it was 20cm from top to bottom socket. I'm sorry I can't give more accurate details, am a long way from that boat currently.
I didn't use it very often because although I was sailing engineless, if there was even a little bit of wind it was easier to sail, but several times it did get me to a point I could drop anchor and sleep, or across the bay, and once into and out of a small marina - without hitting anything! (the one time I took that boat into a marina)
Perfect back to basics
Just wondering whether you are going to post more content . Loved the series
Hey! Im working on a wee short just now just to keep you all up dated, it should be with you in a few days! 💪🏻👍 thank you so much for your patience!!
Great to see you again. I was wondering if everything was ok but the "baby on board" explained everything. Congratulations. Also nice to see the Lomonds again in the background...
Thank you, im glad you know tge area! Idler is still here and im plodding away getting what i can done when i can. Difficult with the baby however. Id like to see the project pick up the pace abit in the next few weeks as the wain finds his balance.
Thank you for your patience! 👌🏻
@@BothanboatsIdler When I was little, my uncle lived in Lochgelly, he now lives just outside of Markinch...
My gran was Lochgelly 🤙🏻
Thanks for the lesson on sculling. I missed your videos. I'm anxious to see more work on Idler. Cheers !
Thanks bud, i hear you 100%, Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration; so it will happen! Thank you for you patience! 🙌
This is just so cool , thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Happy to see you back, it's been a few years since I did any sculling and never on anything bigger than a tender .
Glad to be back (ish)
My wife sailed on “Le Glenan” in 1981, when Glenans had bases in Ireland. She was a 45’ wooden cutter with a crew of 10. She had no motor but could go into places like Derrynane in Kerry with her sculling oar. People took turns sculling.
Wonderfull story 😍 thanks for sharing
Was going to ask about your children. Then they made cameo appearances! Excellent video.
Thank you so much!
Lovely job on the Yuloh. Right what you say at the end.
Thanks Dale! 🤙🏻
this is so cool man
Great video, great build. I’m a little fuzzy on how you determined the over all dimension’s to best suit your boat. Oh and by the way it’s awesome to see you are grooming some young new crew members.
Thank you! Thank you for watching, the oar was largely determined by eyeing up the length of a side of a triangle. One side: being from the waterline to hip height when standing in the cockpit. The shaft length is the length from this height back over the transom to meet the waterline again. I then added the “blade to this length that i determined by eye.
Shaft thickness was on the cautious side of extra strength. But i am sure i could reduce the thickness and thus weight of the oar by quite a-bit having spent some time playing with it now.
Hope that makes sense?
Mithril? Like the Elvish metal Bilbo’s chain mail vest was made from?
Yup! 🤣🤣
As a former (Canadian) coast guard officer I echo your comments that RNLI and similar services are not really there to get foolish folks back to shore but unfortunately it’s a major component of the job these days.
Missed the Idler episodes and hope to see you back at it soon
Hi, thank you for your support! Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration are still here so it will happen! Thank you for your patience!
I’ve been sculling since I was a teen in the sea scouts. When it clicked, I immediately figured out how to scull in reverse. Glad to hear your comment on that too.
We always had the sculling eye(?) off-centre on starboard, to keep it out of the way of the tiller and the mainsail sheet. Any particular reason yours is centered?
Great point, and something i didnt cover in the episode. I would have liked an off centre rowlock for exactly the reason you stated and it might be possible following changes to the outboard cover in the boat. But at present with her narrow pintail and taffrail the only place that allows for enough movement if the oar is from a central location. Unfortunalty! - idlers will be offset 👍
Excellent. I was looking to make a yuloh. I've a much better understanding of the design now.
Brilliant! Im glad the video was of use!
i wonder how similar to yours are those used by the gondoliers in Venice.
I dont know actually! Something to investigate 🧐👍
Row lock is very different
Is that a Westerly? I had a 1976 Centaur for 12 years
Yes, bombproof little boat, its a westerly 25 - the early version of the Windrush. Great wee thing!
Very popular Westerly the Centaur, my Father own 2 of them during his later sailing days and I have sailed on 4 different ones.
YAY!!
Thanks for this video. I am going to build a sculling oar this spring for our 28 ft Bristol Channel Cutter. I was going to take an oar building class but now I don't feel I need to. What kind of wood did you use, and how did you derive the angle of the blade to the shaft?
Haha, brilliant! i hope im not to late in the feedback department to help you!
The wood is regular building pine. They call it redwood here fro some reason, but i think that's yellow pine in the states. I used this because it was cheap and would do the job.
You want a straight grained, light evergreen species, Spruce, larch, a variety of pines... its not an exact science and there are pros and cons to different woods that are to much for this post.
The angel was determined by the hight of the transom from the water level. vs the length of the shaft relative to the rowlock (pivot point. Basicaly i lay a straight spar in the rowlock, positioned the handle where i wanted it and at the right hight. Then went aft, then eyeballed where it ought to bend to drop the blade into the water within a reasonable length of the transom.
Youll want the pivot point to be roughly in the middle of the oar with the heavier end outboard.
Hope some of that helps.
Let me know if you would like any more info. Cheers, Nick
I think the sculling. oar would be more efficient if the blade had a 15 or 20 degree hinge between blade and shaft like a fishes tail in not fixed on one plane it bends at the start of the stroke then flicks through 40 degrees to start the next stroke.
Hi Marlon, i see your thinking and i reckon that that would be a considerable engineering problem… however if you reimagine a skulling oars motion more like that of a snake swimming than a propeller turning it appears (to me at least less inefficient)…
Food for thought at least 😊
Oh, I think it was Dwarf-made.
What's happening to the idler. Is it on hold right now
Hey, Idler has been sort of paused for the last few months while the little one finds his feet. Ive been doing bits and bobs but no great advances. The desire and means to complete the restoration are still here so it will happen! Thank you for your patience!
Bravo and thank you for your comments on seamanship.
Loved the scene with the wee one strapped to you, i lived many happy yearsdoing projects like that!
Aww glad to hear it! Thank you!
When Scotland leaves the UK the laws of the sea will be kept like europe.
Fantastisk T-shirt while sculling bragds Viewer in Norway ( makes perfekt sense to priortize two children responsibilities now!)
Haha thank you! Norway FTW! 😎🤙🏻
Thank you for the understanding on the Children! They are wonderful and cant wait for the boat to be finished; well the one that can speak anyway 🤣. I hope i dont keep her waiting to much longer!
Yeah a big sculling oar is def gona move a smaller sail boat. "How to sail oceans" he has an old double ender he has no engine and sails everywhere. Sculling his way in and out. Tho he did recently make a lil outboard mount. He holds it on his thigh/waist to use whole body to push it. Technique is critical with sculling
I love his channel, its superb and he has some “proper” seamanship! 👌🏻
Парень, жив ли ты?