Martin is a lucky man, getting a master class in Ilurship. Good to see you out again. Sculling is on my to do list, but I still need to get a bit more proficient at rowing first.
This is tantalising, Roger! My boat has been in a (one hundred year old farmer's) barn for winter, it comes out on April 1st and I'm itching to get sailing again. This film doesn't help! Lovely stuff!
Just where you beached, I walked with my wife and the dog two years ago :-) Nice to see another video from you, Roger - just today I thought that long time there wasn't one. And by the way, sculling in German is called 'Wriggen'
And »Fasten fenders and hang them overboard!« should be something like »Fender festmachen und über Bord schmeißen!« A more genteel verb for »schmeißen« is »werfen«. And the shortest command for that kind of activity is »Fender raus!«. Any competent crew will understand.
Addendum: my friend Brian has been helping me from the start of building of the Oughtred Auk. It’s been an amazing project we have learned a ton together and we’ve had a lot of fun! If you read this Brian, THANK YOU! ✌️🤩
Good to see another video from you! I would request that you open a store and sell lovely buoyancy vests to those of us subject to US Coast Guard restrictions! Thanks for your posts.
Nice Sculling tuition video. Never had a slot on my Albacore, so in the past on the rare occasions which called for a bit of a scull, I used to wonder, "is this right?" Don't think I ever got it right enough to my satisfaction. But it got me to that somewhere else, so I must have been doing something ok. On Avel Dro, I'm always impressed by the boat's ability to just get up and go. Granted, it's not designed to win races, but it doesn't hang about either. About as good a sea worthy cruiser dinghy that I've ever seen.
Thank you, Roger, for this "tutorial." I wonder if you can compare this technique with that of the Venetian gondoliers you may have seen while you were there.
Thanks for the sculling tutorial and another fine video. Well done Martin! Glad to see you out on the water ... alas, my sailing ground is still frozen with 25 cm's of snow on the way tonight!
It's the old wisdom of "Don't think and drive" (Who says it was "drink"?) that shows its full meaning again. My first yards of sculling are always catastrophic as I start with that what Martin called the "intellectual approach".
Hello Roger, thanks for another amazing vid! It‘s like having a day off, enjoying your footage including compassion, knowledge and friendlyness.. stay blessed
Wonderful film again, Roger, and very inspirational! It made me believe that after a winter of maintenance and repair work on my 44 year-old steel 27-footer, another summer of boating life may be just around the corner. Well, almost. A few jobs still need to be done. 🙂
Roger, I notice the rudder is in and just swinging freely. This doesn't get in the way? I built a sculling notch in my Oughtred Tammie Norrie, but I've never gotten the hang of it. Great to watch somebody go from beginner to pro!
If my forearm is at or below the oar, I can just barely scull. When I see Roger do it with his arm above the oar it's amazing. It's easier with the Yuloh I made, but my boat is so light weight it's difficult to keep going in a straight line.
Lovely to see Douarnenez, those nice cafés and Avel Dro again. It would have been nicer to learn sailing this way rather than the regatta way in modern dinghies in the FFV. Pity I didn't know you back in 2008 when I took up sailing.
Well done! And perfect timing as I was just reading the sculling tutorial in your book last night! 🤩 There appears to be a bit of a figure eight pattern which helps with the wrist action?? I’m nearly done building my Oughtred Auk and am looking forward to trying this when summer arrives. Thanks Roger!
Very enjoyable and informative as usual! Could you elucidate on the advantages and disadvantages of the mainsail having no boom? Your rig seems very easy to use and store and less likely to bonk one's head.
Because Francois Vivier models his boats on the traditional Breton fishing boat he has adopted the boom-less or "standing" lug rig, known as the mainseiner rig in Breton. The mainseiner is extremely simple, meaning you can tend to nets, lobster pots and long lines of herring and mackerel without having too much string to 'worry' about. The sail tends to be over the side of the boat, outside of the gunnels, meaning less crouching under a boom. There is less likelihood of bumping your head and/or getting knocked overboard. Raising and lowering the sail for reefing is easier without the weight of a timber boom. BUT The sail is less efficient, and technically the boat will not sail as fast. Why you would be interested in speed in a wooden boat that can weigh nearly a quarter of a tonne is a moot point, but one which people raise in defence of the 'balanced' or lug sail with boom. Francois' boats come with four different rigs which you can choose from (Roger's is the classic design - the mainseiner). 1. Standing lug without boom. 2. Balanced lug with boom 3. Lug yawl (mainseiner with a second rear mizzen mast) 4. Lug sloop, mast set further back near centre board with a bow sprit and a jib hung off the single mast. I went with the lug yawl, still pondering the wisdom of this, the mainseiner is so much simpler, but having one big sail does mean more reefing when the wind is unpredictable. Letting the mizzen sail flap a about in a squall being preferable to having to drop the main and reef during a blow when the wind could die minutes later. Swings and roundabouts really!
The rig has no name in Breton that I know of, because it is just normal. But a single lugsail is called the “misaine” in French. Lug rigged fishing boats anywhere in the world never had booms, to my knowledge.
thanks for the lesson. I use thoul pins, they're harder to bounce out of than a notch, and they have a bit of line at the top to make sure . you're awesome as alwsys
Roger, I just acquired a Peep Hen, a little 14' fiberglass cat boat style dinghy and would like to add a sculling notch and oar for when the iron wind fails. How long is a typical sculling oar? Dependent upon height above waterline? Is there a formula? Thanks in advance. I have very much enjoyed your videos - especially a Rogue Mariner!
What is the largest boat a normal person can reasonably scull? Proper sculling, I mean, single oar standing at the stern. Is it possible scull a 30' fibreglass sailing boat, for example; or a 38' steel narrowboat? (mild current and wind conditions, say)
I feel sorry for you so here's the Shaw and Tenney rule for oar length copied straight from the internet. "Measure the distance between the center of the port and starboard oar sockets, which hold the oar locks on each gunnel. This is called the “span” between the oarlocks. Divide the span by 2, and then add 2 to this number. The result is called the “inboard loom length” of the oar. Multiply the loom length by 25, and then divide that number by 7. The result is the proper oar length in inches. Round up or down to the closest 6” increment." I presume you measure the span in inches too.
I started doing kayak with all these fancy paddles and I knew there were some ways to row a canoe from one side only and keep it straight and even turn so I was wondering why people dont do that in kayaks. Turns out it's the fault of these modern paddles. Natives who invented the kayak use double bladed paddles but they are shape like conventional paddles and oars and they can scull and do other maneuvers much better then any one can with these modern paddle. They are also much more efficient and less stressful to the body meaning one can row for much longer with these traditional paddles then with a modern one and do more distance over all even tough the speed is slower. Turns out the simple shape used for thousands of years is still a good design.
@@ingogroth6777 Und bist Du einer von diesen? Ich frage, weil ich für das spezielle Hobby im deutschen Internet keine Kontakte bzw. Internetseite finde. Habe ein entsprechendes Boot und dümple allein damit umher.
@@busterholmes4934 Hallo! Ja, ich bin auch Mitglied in der DCA. Ich habe allerdings auch noch ein größeres Boot... Auch in Deutschland gibt es Wanderjollen, es wird nur kaum von solchen Reisen berichtet. Die Internet-Site "Wanderjolle" ist nicht gepflegt, und auch im Segeln-Forum ist das eher eine Randerscheinung. Viele "fliegen vielleicht auch gerne unterm Radar". Vor allem haben wir perfekte Reviere: Schlei, Müritz, Eider, Flensburger Förde, Bodden usw. - dort gibt es auch immer wieder Wanderjollen mit Zelten...sind halt nicht organisiert. Ich bin auf der Kieler Förde zuhause. Melde Dich doch mal in der DCA an. Die vierteljährlich erscheinenden Newsletter sind eine Inspiration und Du kannst schauen wer noch so aus Deutschland dabei ist (1 Welsford Navigator...z. B.). Viele freundliche Grüße
I made my oars lighter than Francois' plans. I thought that was why they were floating out of the notch. I'm going to see if I can use a cord across the notch to hold the oar in place to see if I can get the hang of it. Thanks for explaining this.
As a British registered vessel in foreign waters I have to fly an ensign. Next year the boat will have to become French again though, but I’m putting off dealing with that.
I feel like I've just had a 20 minute vacation. And I rather enjoyed my time. Thank you for that.
agreed
Welcome back Roger. You a legend for keeping the tradition and more.
Thank your very much, Roger…. I saw your videos … I bought your book… and now I build a Cornish lugger 17… greetings from Hamburg
Always a pleasure to see your videos pop up. I thoroughly enjoy the pace.
Well done, Martin. Quick work of learning a useful skill, and a natural “deckie” as well!
Peaceful video for an Easter afternoon in Texas. Thank you. 🇨🇱
Thank you Roger. I hope your life is as relaxing as your videos.
Congrats Martin you're a real seaman !
Sculling and sailing luggers are for the real ones !
Thanks to you, I'm making a Dinghy too. Greetings from Turkey Amasra...
Martin is a lucky man, getting a master class in Ilurship. Good to see you out again. Sculling is on my to do list, but I still need to get a bit more proficient at rowing first.
The bit about the sculling race was amazing! Relatively easy money!
I'm always amazed by the simplicity of this rig. So user friendly.
Great video and information . Thanks for sharing.I like all the information your sharing
Well done Martin. You too Rog.
Splendid, thank you 👍🏽😀
Well done both of you. Missed the beautiful Illur.
glad to see you back Roger. Was beginning to worry about your long absence.
This is tantalising, Roger! My boat has been in a (one hundred year old farmer's) barn for winter, it comes out on April 1st and I'm itching to get sailing again. This film doesn't help! Lovely stuff!
Thanks Roger. I missed this when it was published mate.
I think we were actually afloat when it did.
Just where you beached, I walked with my wife and the dog two years ago :-)
Nice to see another video from you, Roger - just today I thought that long time there wasn't one.
And by the way, sculling in German is called 'Wriggen'
And »Fasten fenders and hang them overboard!« should be something like »Fender festmachen und über Bord schmeißen!«
A more genteel verb for »schmeißen« is »werfen«.
And the shortest command for that kind of activity is »Fender raus!«. Any competent crew will understand.
I am so happy to see you again! Wonderful video, as always! Many Thanks!
Nicely done, lads.
Addendum: my friend Brian has been helping me from the start of building of the Oughtred Auk. It’s been an amazing project we have learned a ton together and we’ve had a lot of fun! If you read this Brian, THANK YOU! ✌️🤩
Wonderful to see our favorite dinghy cruising celebrity on the water again! Looks like you and Martin had a great day! 👍
I rewatch alot of videos just to listen to roger ....it does feel like a vacation
Good to see another video from you! I would request that you open a store and sell lovely buoyancy vests to those of us subject to US Coast Guard restrictions! Thanks for your posts.
Thank you very much for the video. I especially like your sea trips!!!
Nice Sculling tuition video. Never had a slot on my Albacore, so in the past on the rare occasions which called for a bit of a scull, I used to wonder, "is this right?" Don't think I ever got it right enough to my satisfaction. But it got me to that somewhere else, so I must have been doing something ok. On Avel Dro, I'm always impressed by the boat's ability to just get up and go. Granted, it's not designed to win races, but it doesn't hang about either. About as good a sea worthy cruiser dinghy that I've ever seen.
Great video Roger! Very timely for me as I'm just now thinking of how to add a sculling socket to my transom.
i am so glad you are ok - i missed these - and it been a while....
Thank you Roger! Just what I was looking for. A good instruction video as I'm struggling a bit with sculling my Doris5M. Regards from Belgium!
Thank you, Roger, for this "tutorial." I wonder if you can compare this technique with that of the Venetian gondoliers you may have seen while you were there.
Thanks for the sculling tutorial and another fine video. Well done Martin! Glad to see you out on the water ... alas, my sailing ground is still frozen with 25 cm's of snow on the way tonight!
its a pity we dont see much of what the blade is doing in the water
Gut gemacht beides! And a nice idea for a video.
I love your channel, thank you very much!
Such a simple and beautiful life!!! I am envious!!!!
Early season, no one around.....good times.
Really nice video i will try sculling aswell this season
My good Sir, I have tried this many times only to lose my steering oar!! I only hope I can get this skill down pat!!
delightful
Meine Meinung nach, Martin ist fast wie ein Profi !
It's the old wisdom of "Don't think and drive" (Who says it was "drink"?) that shows its full meaning again. My first yards of sculling are always catastrophic as I start with that what Martin called the "intellectual approach".
Hello Roger, thanks for another amazing vid! It‘s like having a day off, enjoying your footage including compassion, knowledge and friendlyness.. stay blessed
I believe Martin had a good time.
Wonderful film again, Roger, and very inspirational! It made me believe that after a winter of maintenance and repair work on my 44 year-old steel 27-footer, another summer of boating life may be just around the corner.
Well, almost. A few jobs still need to be done. 🙂
Great teaching, great able student, lovely story and footage. Good to see you out on the water again.
Great Video !
Enjoyed the video!! Thanks
Hello from said Milford Haven.
Having watched this channel for years, I get the feeling that Roger has never had seasickness in his life😂
Oh he has. He has indeed.
@@RogerRoving
Don´t trust a sailor who never has been seasick! 😜
Roger, I notice the rudder is in and just swinging freely. This doesn't get in the way? I built a sculling notch in my Oughtred Tammie Norrie, but I've never gotten the hang of it. Great to watch somebody go from beginner to pro!
Is that the port of Douarnenez ? Still looking a bit chilly there, but picturesque & a good boat ramp by the looks of it!
Nice episode. Enjoyed the practical lesson and the music was very nice.
If my forearm is at or below the oar, I can just barely scull. When I see Roger do it with his arm above the oar it's amazing. It's easier with the Yuloh I made, but my boat is so light weight it's difficult to keep going in a straight line.
Lovely to see Douarnenez, those nice cafés and Avel Dro again. It would have been nicer to learn sailing this way rather than the regatta way in modern dinghies in the FFV. Pity I didn't know you back in 2008 when I took up sailing.
Well done! And perfect timing as I was just reading the sculling tutorial in your book last night! 🤩 There appears to be a bit of a figure eight pattern which helps with the wrist action?? I’m nearly done building my Oughtred Auk and am looking forward to trying this when summer arrives. Thanks Roger!
Very enjoyable and informative as usual! Could you elucidate on the advantages and disadvantages of the mainsail having no boom? Your rig seems very easy to use and store and less likely to bonk one's head.
Because Francois Vivier models his boats on the traditional Breton fishing boat he has adopted the boom-less or "standing" lug rig, known as the mainseiner rig in Breton.
The mainseiner is extremely simple, meaning you can tend to nets, lobster pots and long lines of herring and mackerel without having too much string to 'worry' about.
The sail tends to be over the side of the boat, outside of the gunnels, meaning less crouching under a boom.
There is less likelihood of bumping your head and/or getting knocked overboard.
Raising and lowering the sail for reefing is easier without the weight of a timber boom.
BUT
The sail is less efficient, and technically the boat will not sail as fast.
Why you would be interested in speed in a wooden boat that can weigh nearly a quarter of a tonne is a moot point, but one which people raise in defence of the 'balanced' or lug sail with boom.
Francois' boats come with four different rigs which you can choose from (Roger's is the classic design - the mainseiner).
1. Standing lug without boom.
2. Balanced lug with boom
3. Lug yawl (mainseiner with a second rear mizzen mast)
4. Lug sloop, mast set further back near centre board with a bow sprit and a jib hung off the single mast.
I went with the lug yawl, still pondering the wisdom of this, the mainseiner is so much simpler, but having one big sail does mean more reefing when the wind is unpredictable.
Letting the mizzen sail flap a about in a squall being preferable to having to drop the main and reef during a blow when the wind could die minutes later.
Swings and roundabouts really!
The rig has no name in Breton that I know of, because it is just normal. But a single lugsail is called the “misaine” in French. Lug rigged fishing boats anywhere in the world never had booms, to my knowledge.
thanks for the lesson. I use thoul pins, they're harder to bounce out of than a notch, and they have a bit of line at the top to make sure . you're awesome as alwsys
Thank fuck you’re back Roger! I’ve had withdrawal symptoms it’s been so long since you last posted!
What length of oar do you use, and do you use a lanyard/tether?
Roger, I just acquired a Peep Hen, a little 14' fiberglass cat boat style dinghy and would like to add a sculling notch and oar for when the iron wind fails. How long is a typical sculling oar? Dependent upon height above waterline? Is there a formula? Thanks in advance. I have very much enjoyed your videos - especially a Rogue Mariner!
Seems to be - like you- a pretty nice guy..😊.
Ha when I saw the title I thought his name was Martin Sculling
My thoughts. Who is Martin Sculling and what did you teach him lol?
Turns out he's German so probably Schulling.
Great tuition - I was expecting a detailed analysis of wrist twisting and pressure phase technique, pas du tout! `stop thinking, just feel it`
Hi Roger, small question what is the little machine you are using to navigate on your boat in this clip
What is the largest boat a normal person can reasonably scull? Proper sculling, I mean, single oar standing at the stern. Is it possible scull a 30' fibreglass sailing boat, for example; or a 38' steel narrowboat? (mild current and wind conditions, say)
What is the length of this boat your using?
Could you come teach me next time your in Portsmouth harbour? 😂😂
How long should the oar be? I've tried this with some success on my boat but the oar is 6 feet long and it seems possibly a bit too short.
I feel sorry for you so here's the Shaw and Tenney rule for oar length copied straight from the internet.
"Measure the distance between the center of the port and starboard oar sockets, which hold the oar locks on each gunnel. This is called the “span” between the oarlocks. Divide the span by 2, and then add 2 to this number. The result is called the “inboard loom length” of the oar. Multiply the loom length by 25, and then divide that number by 7. The result is the proper oar length in inches. Round up or down to the closest 6” increment."
I presume you measure the span in inches too.
What's the vessel in the background around 14:40? looks like a Zulu.
It is Telenn Mor, the Douarnenez replica fishing Lugger. Replica of the boats you’d have seen here from the beginning of the C20th.
@@RogerRoving Thanks for that.
Why is the leather part of the oar not in the notch when sculling
The notch is lined with leather.
I started doing kayak with all these fancy paddles and I knew there were some ways to row a canoe from one side only and keep it straight and even turn so I was wondering why people dont do that in kayaks. Turns out it's the fault of these modern paddles. Natives who invented the kayak use double bladed paddles but they are shape like conventional paddles and oars and they can scull and do other maneuvers much better then any one can with these modern paddle. They are also much more efficient and less stressful to the body meaning one can row for much longer with these traditional paddles then with a modern one and do more distance over all even tough the speed is slower.
Turns out the simple shape used for thousands of years is still a good design.
Are there any people from Germany in the DCA?
Yes, a few
@@ingogroth6777 Und bist Du einer von diesen? Ich frage, weil ich für das spezielle Hobby im deutschen Internet keine Kontakte bzw. Internetseite finde. Habe ein entsprechendes Boot und dümple allein damit umher.
@@busterholmes4934 Hallo!
Ja, ich bin auch Mitglied in der DCA. Ich habe allerdings auch noch ein größeres Boot...
Auch in Deutschland gibt es Wanderjollen, es wird nur kaum von solchen Reisen berichtet. Die Internet-Site "Wanderjolle" ist nicht gepflegt, und auch im Segeln-Forum ist das eher eine Randerscheinung. Viele "fliegen vielleicht auch gerne unterm Radar".
Vor allem haben wir perfekte Reviere: Schlei, Müritz, Eider, Flensburger Förde, Bodden usw. - dort gibt es auch immer wieder Wanderjollen mit Zelten...sind halt nicht organisiert. Ich bin auf der Kieler Förde zuhause.
Melde Dich doch mal in der DCA an. Die vierteljährlich erscheinenden Newsletter sind eine Inspiration und Du kannst schauen wer noch so aus Deutschland dabei ist (1 Welsford Navigator...z. B.).
Viele freundliche Grüße
I made my oars lighter than Francois' plans. I thought that was why they were floating out of the notch.
I'm going to see if I can use a cord across the notch to hold the oar in place to see if I can get the hang of it.
Thanks for explaining this.
Roger changed his music!
Martin doesn't like to laugh. :)
Strange Roger I don't remember you flying a flag on your boat. before..
As a British registered vessel in foreign waters I have to fly an ensign. Next year the boat will have to become French again though, but I’m putting off dealing with that.
ua-cam.com/video/NIUnyJyW-p0/v-deo.html :))
en français dans le texte, vive la godille, merci amis britishs
Remove the word sculling and replace with another word and it becomes histerically funny.
Guess the word...😂
Luther King
@@sailormarttiki3197
No.
Ends in. ing
Your videos are so good and inspirational, a huge thank you from Australia🦘