Mastering The Roadhog Mirror Meta ft. Shanghai Dragons - Pro Overwatch

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  • Опубліковано 13 жов 2020
  • During the Overwatch League Grand Finals weekend, the pick and playmaking of Roadhog became a focal point of various compositions.
    Teams who were able to craft tactics around this hero and figure out ways to mirror and counter their opponents knowing full well what they would probably be facing became a highlight of the finals.
    In today's video, we take a look at how the Shanghai Dragons became masters of the grand finals meta and how they executed a variety of mirror compositions versus the Seoul Dynasty.
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  • @Akshonesports
    @Akshonesports  3 роки тому +186

    Hey everyone, in case you're wondering, we have some more grand finals content in the pipeline that you can look forward to this month!

  • @OmicronGaming
    @OmicronGaming 3 роки тому +683

    Still blows my mind that this team used to be 0-42 and is now a top team

    • @Fretful_
      @Fretful_ 3 роки тому +2

      Hi and true

    • @eamonhanson212
      @eamonhanson212 3 роки тому +6

      PLEASE MAKE OW CONTEENNNNNTTT

    • @thehsushoe
      @thehsushoe 3 роки тому +71

      It's not really even the same team as the 0-42 team. The only people from that team are Fearless and Geguri

    • @Piso97
      @Piso97 3 роки тому +1

      Really wanted them to win the whole thing

    • @okibelieveyou.4743
      @okibelieveyou.4743 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah top team

  • @makinnongoldie7184
    @makinnongoldie7184 3 роки тому +395

    I still can’t believe that this is the same team that set a new world record for biggest loss streak

    • @Tuesmort
      @Tuesmort 3 роки тому +62

      It's not the same team at all, the only player that was in both s1 and s3 is fearless and he's improved a lot

    • @Ethan-mp7wr
      @Ethan-mp7wr 3 роки тому +28

      @@DaFrozenWaffle But they're both eternally benched

    • @aizatalfateh
      @aizatalfateh 3 роки тому +11

      @@DaFrozenWaffle but both of them didnt really have any impact on the changes since both of them almost never play

    • @Tuesmort
      @Tuesmort 3 роки тому +1

      @@DaFrozenWaffle Oh, mb then. Anyways those two aren't played quite often, shanghai almost always play the same 6 players

    • @ch1ck3nc4nfly8
      @ch1ck3nc4nfly8 3 роки тому

      Sadly they lost i]to Seoul in the rematch of the Grand Finale

  • @russangoat7812
    @russangoat7812 3 роки тому +274

    How dose he say hog and ball torture with a straight face

    • @Virsu
      @Virsu 3 роки тому +36

      professionals have standards

    • @percy9073
      @percy9073 3 роки тому

      CBT lul

    • @shreyanshsingh379
      @shreyanshsingh379 3 роки тому

      The way Mr. Egg said sensual delight with a straight face

    • @theitalianmexican1035
      @theitalianmexican1035 3 роки тому +4

      He probably didn’t at first. Kept redoing it until he said it enough to not find it funny.

  • @saltytea7367
    @saltytea7367 3 роки тому +152

    I'm a big fan of teams using these kinds of comps so creatively. Thanks for the video if it wasn't for you guys I wouldn't be into OWL

    • @david_t_2128
      @david_t_2128 3 роки тому +1

      Same, the only reason I follow owl is cause of these vids

  • @bomidash5872
    @bomidash5872 3 роки тому +47

    I don't even play or watch overwatch but I still love your analysis videos. I NEVER MISSED ONE!

  • @bacca9998
    @bacca9998 3 роки тому +20

    Behind the akshon:It was crunch time
    Me: presented by cheese-it grooves

  • @juliancontreras3064
    @juliancontreras3064 3 роки тому +18

    The way they are using the dragons ost from the animated short adds a top tier level of epic ness

  • @thealiagator111
    @thealiagator111 3 роки тому +23

    That "Dragons" music from 3:11 to 3:45, tho...

  • @shreyanshsingh379
    @shreyanshsingh379 3 роки тому +50

    Akshon should not say "Shampoo" and "Some Weaboo" consequently in the Patreon shout out section

    • @DecibelthePanda
      @DecibelthePanda 3 роки тому +8

      some weeaboos could use some shampoo tbh

  • @S1erra107
    @S1erra107 3 роки тому +18

    Look, all I'm saying is the use of Halo and Overwatch music has made my day
    Your editor needs a raise for his music selection. Sonic Unleashed OST, MHA, Halo, excellent use of OW's own OST, so good.

    • @worried5131
      @worried5131 3 роки тому

      What music are they using around 3:30 ?

    • @fleta4112
      @fleta4112 3 роки тому +1

      @@worried5131 Overwatch-Dragons.

    • @S1erra107
      @S1erra107 3 роки тому

      @@worried5131 The music from Overwatch's Dragon's cinematic

  • @spookedmangoes8118
    @spookedmangoes8118 3 роки тому +25

    i thought everyone called hog/ball “hog and ball torture”

  • @EK-pz6vl
    @EK-pz6vl 3 роки тому +31

    the fact that fearless played this well on hog makes me even more surprised that shanghai ran stand1 in the finals.

    • @treycoomes5447
      @treycoomes5447 3 роки тому +3

      yeah, i always assumed that they ran stand because fearless under performed on hog, dont know what they were thinking.

    • @icecubeeli1468
      @icecubeeli1468 3 роки тому +2

      it makes no sense at all, i think thats the number 1 reason they didnt make the grandfinals

  • @zombiikiller2266
    @zombiikiller2266 3 роки тому +18

    Always look forward to more Akshon content.

  • @crazypenquin98
    @crazypenquin98 3 роки тому

    This is probably my favorite UA-cam channel and def the best overwatch league one. Keep up the amazing work Akshon!

  • @randirafaeli
    @randirafaeli 3 роки тому +4

    This owl was so fun to watch, many great storylines and all. I'm looking forward to next season.

  • @kreeze5911
    @kreeze5911 3 роки тому +4

    This video is straight up just perfect

  • @skeiwvaiaidtsujakala8722
    @skeiwvaiaidtsujakala8722 3 роки тому

    man am i excited to watch some of these videos on playoffs/grands

  • @herminator9586
    @herminator9586 3 роки тому +2

    I’m really looking forward to the Final Four Analyze videos. Especially finals

  • @thereeceter6600
    @thereeceter6600 3 роки тому +2

    These are some amazing and interesting videos on UA-cam! ❤️

  • @joeshmoe735
    @joeshmoe735 3 роки тому

    5:40 the phrase spy check brings me joy

  • @mirage9236
    @mirage9236 3 роки тому +9

    Its funny cause Shangai tried this against the shock and got stomped when they did it lol (last map Busan is what im referencing)

  • @personwhoplayvideogames3333
    @personwhoplayvideogames3333 3 роки тому +6

    I'm so surprised that Shanghai didn't win the grand finals or this

  • @YTFB
    @YTFB 3 роки тому

    Your breakdown is insane 👍🏼👌🏻

  • @SEEN-sc3sf
    @SEEN-sc3sf 3 роки тому +1

    Great video as always!

  • @ms13177
    @ms13177 3 роки тому

    Hats off to the dragons. They really did practice many comps. Also hats off to the Akshon for the godly videos

  • @mihaelsenolt5378
    @mihaelsenolt5378 3 роки тому +1

    0:43
    HOG AND BALL TORTURE

  • @Arcullius
    @Arcullius 3 роки тому

    I love these analysis videos ssssoooooo much

  • @oogaga2638
    @oogaga2638 3 роки тому +3

    Hog and ball torture got me 😂

  • @artloverivy
    @artloverivy 3 роки тому +1

    1:56 Leejaegon’s perfectly timed damage boost tho

  • @digomendigo2839
    @digomendigo2839 3 роки тому

    5:45 "spy-checked" this made me smile

  • @Harold-gi6ue
    @Harold-gi6ue 3 роки тому

    It’s so awesome being early to these great videos

  • @otozinclus3593
    @otozinclus3593 3 роки тому +1

    0:40
    This comp is not a Dive comp, it got played as a Brawlcomp with Winston instead of Rein to force midfight faster

  • @Kethra430
    @Kethra430 3 роки тому

    Awesome channel

  • @nigelgorospe9013
    @nigelgorospe9013 3 роки тому

    I love Akshon content

  • @lukas123ka7
    @lukas123ka7 3 роки тому +1

    epic music

  • @indyrakthabut2441
    @indyrakthabut2441 3 роки тому +3

    Hog and ball torture combo I'm so dead😂😂😂

  • @naps1259
    @naps1259 3 роки тому

    HOG AND BALL TORTURE IM DYINGGGG

  • @ibus1502
    @ibus1502 3 роки тому

    0:45 hog and ball tourture

  • @thjummes4017
    @thjummes4017 3 роки тому

    Next week we'll see a video about how dynasty mastered the hog comp and how they beat shanghai in the final 4

  • @synarchy8377
    @synarchy8377 3 роки тому

    This game is wild just seeming like a simple hero shooter but it’s a mini game of ever changing chess with no set way to play it

  • @tacocharxking1464
    @tacocharxking1464 3 роки тому +1

    I was waiting for the grand finals video...

  • @karstonholmes2907
    @karstonholmes2907 3 роки тому

    I normally can follow what is going on and what they are describing but these fights were so chaotic. Love it though

  • @rowenwoelke1673
    @rowenwoelke1673 Рік тому +1

    Bro said hog and ball torture with full seriousness

  • @yellow4833
    @yellow4833 2 роки тому

    “Hog and ball torture” lol

  • @funky9704
    @funky9704 3 роки тому

    Im still gasses about the Shock’s back-to-back championship

  • @aisaaka
    @aisaaka 3 роки тому +30

    Ayyyyyyy were all early so you guys dont have to say first or early

  • @HoveringZero
    @HoveringZero 3 роки тому

    HOG AND BALL TORTURE I fucking LOST it

  • @justketra2780
    @justketra2780 3 роки тому

    Question are you going to do behind the akshon for other games just wondering

    • @Akshonesports
      @Akshonesports  3 роки тому

      Yup! We have more videos in the works at the moment although we can't promise that we will cover every single match of the grand finals weekend like we did here.

  • @lagavr4693
    @lagavr4693 3 роки тому +5

    I personally thought Seoul played this better

  • @WilliametcCook
    @WilliametcCook 3 роки тому

    7 or 8 of the players in these teams are just named words
    lip, void, fits, profit, marvel, gesture, creative, fearless

  • @markangelogarcia2584
    @markangelogarcia2584 3 роки тому

    is that a nano blading genji bein insta give by a roadhog hook combo w/mercy boost & discord????
    sorry i got a bad screen quality

  • @timitalvenheimo5904
    @timitalvenheimo5904 3 роки тому

    I lohe these videos👍

  • @jheymann69
    @jheymann69 3 роки тому

    They gotta be regretting letting Fearless go, the man is doing gigantic things in Dallas and Fate is getting exploited bad this season imo. Love the videos sir!

  • @LiveActionKimPossibleRufus
    @LiveActionKimPossibleRufus 3 роки тому +1

    We really calling it the Hog and Ball torture comp

  • @onepunchman6981
    @onepunchman6981 3 роки тому +24

    Sadly they couldn't adapt enough we deserved a Shanghai Shock final

    • @Tuesmort
      @Tuesmort 3 роки тому +3

      We didn't derserve shit we're just the viewers shanghai got boomed that's all

    • @darkwolf1739
      @darkwolf1739 3 роки тому +4

      I mean shock already beat the dragons, if they cant beat competition in their region then they dont deserve to be in the finals. Dynasty beat them and deserved to atleast try to beat the shock which they only met in the finals

    • @babygay3095
      @babygay3095 3 роки тому +3

      The two best teams got to the finals... And we got an amazing grand finals like we've never seen before... Shanghai just happened to not be strong enough to make it at the time

    • @TheESPN3
      @TheESPN3 3 роки тому

      they should have stayed with fearless. The coach overthought their own strategy putting stand1 in

    • @babygay3095
      @babygay3095 3 роки тому

      @@TheESPN3 stand1 was really good tho... we cant put the blame on him he played amazing... but yeah maybe the roster changes had an impact on teamwork... even tho diem and stand1 were top tier

  • @novacorp7110
    @novacorp7110 3 роки тому

    Wonder why they played Stand1 instead of fearless on hog

  • @xshadowwreckerx7561
    @xshadowwreckerx7561 3 роки тому

    I think Seoul should also be praised in this match

  • @Fin756
    @Fin756 3 роки тому

    “The fight doesn’t look any better for the Seoul” great video tho👍

  • @HelloHi0123
    @HelloHi0123 3 роки тому +3

    "Fearless hog will likely to be shanghai secret weapon". Stand1 plays hog the entire finals lmao

    • @icecubeeli1468
      @icecubeeli1468 3 роки тому +1

      it was the reason they didnt win the whole thing imo

    • @HelloHi0123
      @HelloHi0123 3 роки тому +1

      @@icecubeeli1468 so very true

    • @icecubeeli1468
      @icecubeeli1468 3 роки тому

      @@HelloHi0123 like people were complaining about leejaegon throwing on a few maps, which he was, but imo stand1s hog was the bigger issue, he just wasnt that good at it

  • @ruairiwalsh4925
    @ruairiwalsh4925 3 роки тому +1

    I watched this in school 😂😂 (the finals I mean)

  • @samwise2356
    @samwise2356 3 роки тому

    Something I never thought I'd here
    "Hog and ball torture"

  • @user-bm7ow3fs1i
    @user-bm7ow3fs1i 3 роки тому +1

    If Blizzard made a mobile version of Overwatch, man I'd probably die out of excitement to play

  • @xeasonchan9401
    @xeasonchan9401 3 роки тому +2

    I felt sad while fearless couldn't play hog in the grand final, witnessing his teammate lose against dynasty and shock on the bench.

    • @okibelieveyou.4743
      @okibelieveyou.4743 3 роки тому +1

      @Hector Sosa they chose stand1 because the team thinks he plays roadhog better

    • @razoredge8284
      @razoredge8284 3 роки тому

      same

    • @razoredge8284
      @razoredge8284 3 роки тому +1

      that was a one of Shanghai's many mistakes, Stand1 looked like Plat1 in the grand finals lmao

    • @xeasonchan9401
      @xeasonchan9401 3 роки тому

      yeah maybe stand1 performed better while training, but I believe fearless is the player that could bring us clutch performance under pressure.

  • @kalamari3351
    @kalamari3351 3 роки тому

    so practically Shanghai Dragons is Mimasaka Subaru (probably just 3 people got that reference)

  • @kelvinkinyanjui3545
    @kelvinkinyanjui3545 3 роки тому

    Hog and Ball torture 😳

  • @vaports6984
    @vaports6984 3 роки тому

    Akshon review plays are the best of owl content

    • @Akshonesports
      @Akshonesports  3 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the kind words!

    • @vaports6984
      @vaports6984 3 роки тому

      @@Akshonesports keep up the PogU vids akshon crew

  • @JulienWasTaken
    @JulienWasTaken Рік тому

    they really named it hog and ball torture 💀

  • @an4r4k34
    @an4r4k34 3 роки тому

    DID HE SAY HOG AND BALL TORTURE

  • @cadesanderson6896
    @cadesanderson6896 3 роки тому +1

    The Dragons are just Spys from TF2 but they are a whole team instead of one person

  • @BBoy-bx2qz
    @BBoy-bx2qz 3 роки тому

    6:39-6:43 Damn right

  • @MrPeeps2345
    @MrPeeps2345 3 роки тому

    They really said hog and ball torture comp in an analysis video

  • @lordolayz_3091
    @lordolayz_3091 3 роки тому

    Hog and ball torture I see what you did there 0:43

  • @ruhcello9451
    @ruhcello9451 3 роки тому

    "anything you can do i can do better, i can do anything better than you"

  • @CHOPPERFAN34
    @CHOPPERFAN34 3 роки тому

    0:43 against what

  • @Kir1_blancGaming
    @Kir1_blancGaming 3 роки тому

    I still can't understand why they put stand1 instead fearless on hog

    • @breemo1319
      @breemo1319 3 роки тому

      fearless is very very good on hog but stand1 is god tier hog

  • @vulcan930
    @vulcan930 3 роки тому +1

    Can I just point out the fact that fearless dominated on hog but got benched by stand1

  • @gking08
    @gking08 3 роки тому

    Hog and ball torture comp 💀

  • @thatafknoob7813
    @thatafknoob7813 3 роки тому

    Im still so mad that they didn't bring in the fearless hog for grand finals. he looked so good

    • @dragonfistX200
      @dragonfistX200 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah no offense to stand1 he was pretty good but fearless is one that help shangai beat seoul in the hog mirror. It wouldn't have hurt to sub fearless in at least once

    • @aizatalfateh
      @aizatalfateh 3 роки тому +1

      @@dragonfistX200 but maybe during the 3 weeks break they realized that stand1 hog is much better than fearless?

    • @TheESPN3
      @TheESPN3 3 роки тому

      @@aizatalfateh the coach overthought it. Fearless was part of the six that dominated APAC the whole year so I dont know why you would suddenly sub in stand1 and ruin all the chemistry. Even if stand1 was a better hog, fearless was their main piece in their team success.

  • @jacobvarney2754
    @jacobvarney2754 2 роки тому

    0:43 did he say hog and ball torture?

  • @nephalemmadeline
    @nephalemmadeline 3 роки тому

    This is like when the hero pulls out the final weapon
    I hate this moment. WHY DIDNT YOU USE YOUR COMPOSITION AND JUST WIN THE FIRST 3 MAPS

  • @animalbeast6564
    @animalbeast6564 3 роки тому

    No best hog is cyx and harblue

  • @sawyerphillips692
    @sawyerphillips692 3 роки тому +1

    Hog and ball torture. Subtle.

  • @NarcomaOW
    @NarcomaOW 3 роки тому

    Apparently not mastered enough :(

  • @thenotsogreatape933
    @thenotsogreatape933 3 роки тому

    He said it he said hog and ball torture it’s a w guys

  • @monke7914
    @monke7914 3 роки тому

    You know how the term C9 means you walked off the point? Well what if copying the other team’s composition and improving it was called “pulling a dragon?” Unless it already is and I’m an idiot

  • @datman879
    @datman879 3 роки тому +7

    I wouldn’t say they “mastered” the comp 😅

  • @michaelpeterson4066
    @michaelpeterson4066 3 роки тому

    OMG @1:49

  • @koalazenek6690
    @koalazenek6690 3 роки тому

    I dont understand how someone can dislike your videos

  • @blueice9169
    @blueice9169 3 роки тому +1

    The “joke” at the start was really crass I expect more

    • @whitlatch1999
      @whitlatch1999 3 роки тому

      Nah don’t be a baby and grow up

    • @blueice9169
      @blueice9169 3 роки тому

      @@whitlatch1999 name calling VERY smart contribution to the topic of quality in the video. Try to bring points about the topic ratherthan shut down the conversation with a label

    • @justjac769
      @justjac769 3 роки тому

      The hog and ball torture?

  • @TheHaz713
    @TheHaz713 3 роки тому

    And then Shanghai play Stand1 instead of Fearless for Grand Finals :)

  • @sambeelman4191
    @sambeelman4191 3 роки тому +3

    Fearless is good, but I think their rematch in the grand finals losers bracket showed that Gesture is the best hog player in OWL

    • @shreyanshsingh379
      @shreyanshsingh379 3 роки тому +4

      Super hog outplayed him

    • @gloop9400
      @gloop9400 3 роки тому +4

      super wants to know your location

    • @dragonfistX200
      @dragonfistX200 3 роки тому +1

      But they didn't play fearless on hog in losers grand finals, they played stand1

    • @sambeelman4191
      @sambeelman4191 3 роки тому +2

      @@shreyanshsingh379 I love super but I don’t think he would have won against Gesture if he didn’t have the clearly better team behind him.

    • @cohen9846
      @cohen9846 3 роки тому +1

      @@sambeelman4191 only reason why i think super did better than gesture is that gesture was given a lot more to work with since creative was playing ana, he got sleeps to help him, nades to increase his healing and survivability, and pretty much all the nanoes, super had to just live with zen/mercy heals with moth pocketing striker half the time and he still managed to keep up with gesture, super himself admitted on stream that he objectively thinks shock were playing the meta wrong and the only reason it worked is that viol2t is just that good at zen,

  • @squigglysquare7836
    @squigglysquare7836 3 роки тому +1

    You know hog was broken when he one shot a nanno genji

    • @djohnthesalty
      @djohnthesalty 3 роки тому +2

      With a 60% damage boost. ~250 dmg average on a genji. multiply by 1.6 to 400/2 = 200 dmg. Roadhog's max damage before the buff was 300. He could do this shit way before the buff, you just need healers with not totally abysmal reaction time and 2 minutes in the training range practicing one shots, not factoring in the hook.
      The buff just makes it easier. Genji was dead whether roadhog had the buff or not.

    • @squigglysquare7836
      @squigglysquare7836 3 роки тому

      @@djohnthesalty it still dumb tbh

  • @altraxia2074
    @altraxia2074 3 роки тому

    “mastered” pepelaugh

  • @monger6726
    @monger6726 3 роки тому

    Is no one going to talk about you using the theme from genji and Hanzo’s short?

  • @strangefate_1703
    @strangefate_1703 3 роки тому

    Why would you do a video on semi finalists 😶

  • @jknyphausen
    @jknyphausen 3 роки тому

    Hog and ball torture... bro

  • @austinbush9731
    @austinbush9731 3 роки тому

    You should look at rainbow six siege. It has a lots of plays in pro league that you could look at.

  • @dierlesss
    @dierlesss 3 роки тому

    *sad genji noises*

  • @b0ld651
    @b0ld651 3 роки тому

    I dont understand why they put lip on widow when they have diem who is a far better widow.