I had watermeal that came back every summer. After spending thousands of dollars and couldn't kill it, I drained my pond and sprayed the bottom. Lake filled back up and watermeal free for 5 years now!
One of the best informative videos I have ever seen very informative... thank you for not dilly-dallying around and getting right to the point and the script on the screens was great and the music was pretty good thank you so much for sharing.... excellent end result
Nice dock. Need to invest in an aerator for the pond though. I just built a 10'x16' swim platform in much the same manner. Used 2"x6" PT fir framing to reduce weight of the dock frame. Also used eight 63gal black pickle barrels. With less deck framing weight, and higher buoyancy of the 63gal barrels, the decking frame stands 12" without load. And can hold about 1,200lbs load before bottom of frame comes close to water. A fun project for sure!
Great pier! It can be used as a raft for a mini dredger to clean the lake from mud. To do this, you need a motor pump for dirty water and a suction nozzle Bagermaster
Awesome job..planning on building one and watching many videos but this one is the best..very informative and good details. Congrats.. Only questions is...is this dock really half the size of the pond?
Thank you for the question and for the kind words! We did inspect the barrels for any obvious problems. Also, the bungs on these barrels had O-ring seals (not sure if that's standard, but ours had them). The only prep we did was adding pipe dope to the bung threads for added leak protection. Also, I suppose you could rotate the barrels to make sure the bungs aren't under water, but that might be a temporary fix with wave action and other factors that move the barrels around. This was our first attempt at this, so we definitely aren't the experts. If anyone has suggestions on barrel prep, please feel free to reply. Thanks!
It turned out great. My only suggestion would have been to use 2x10 instead of 2x12 for the perimeter. The 2x12 boards do a great job of hiding the 'ugly' barrels, but they also come much closer to being in constant contact with water - which can only decrease the life of the skirting. But then again, I have yet to build one of these ... so FWIW.
Great comment! We actually did some buoyancy calculations before construction, and we thought it would ride higher than it does (oops, at least it floated). Then we figured the dock weight would drop considerably as the pressure-treated wood dried out, making the dock float higher. After a year, it might be floating an inch or two higher than in the video. Thanks for watching!
Nicely done. If I ever help you out next time can I be the guy holding the rope while everyone else is lifting? Looks like a great job for me. ;). Seriously though, great DIY video, Fogies!
Thanks for the kind words, and for the questions! The final decking dimensions were roughly 16' x 12', but we made the framework a little smaller (to allow for decking overhang, and so we could clean up the ends of the 2x framing boards). So the frame dimensions were more like 15.5' x 11.5'. We attached the 2x10 joists to the longer (15.5') sides, meaning all the joists were just under 11.5' long. Regarding the 2x10 spacing, we left a 24" gap between joists where the barrels went, and there were four barrel gaps. That left three 26" gaps between barrel gaps. We didn't want unsupported decking spanning 26", so we added a joist in the center of the non-barrel gaps. If you look at 01:55, you'll see the 24" barrel gap nearest the truck, then a 26" gap with a joist in the center, then another 24" barrel gap, etc. Hope this helps!
The dock is doing great! Over the past couple of years It has seen some high winds, heavy snows, and temperature extremes. But it's still strong and floating high and level. The decking looks a bit weathered, but that's expected because it never gets shaded and is constantly exposed to the elements. Thanks so much for the comment, and good luck with your dock!
Hey, did you prepare the wood in some way? I mean impregnate it or smth? while there are a lot of contact with water. Also what kind of wood did you use maybe pine?
Thanks for the question! We used pressure-treated pine because it resists rot and insects better than untreated wood. Many people use pressure-treated wood for decks, fences, and other outdoor projects.
Hey fellas, nice work on the dock. I haven't built one of these since I was in high school, but this is the exact size I was considering going with for our neighborhood park. That said, There's going to be very few people stepping up to help, but many who will have their "concerns" and "what ifs". To keep costs down I'm going to use 2x10 at 16" OC. that will put the dock more "on" the barrels then over them. Did you feel the 2x10s with the 12 barrels still allow a stable platform? I guess I should also mention I'm only using composite decking, so it won't be near as solid on top as yours since you used 2x's for the decking. Thanks in advance!
Thank you! Sorry for missing this comment and for the late reply. We used 2x12s for the perimeter and 2x10s for the joists and it is pretty stable. But there is a little flex even with the 2X decking. I have seen other videos where people space their joists closer and rest the frame "on" the barrels, so it's difficult to say what works best, especially over time. Good luck on the build!
We anchored the corners left and right of the walkway to the shore using steel cable. Also the walkway is anchored to posts on the shore. We hope that's enough to keep it from drifting. Thanks!
Hope you see this. How exactly did you install the pin joint? It shows you drilling the holes on the 4' gangplank but the pipe is 5'. Not sure how to physically install it. Using this as a guide to help my son with an Eagle Scout project. TIA
Hello, see if this drawing helps. www.fishingfogies.com/images/dock.png It shows where we drilled all the aligned holes for the pin joint. We drilled through both posts, but only halfway through the post on the left. We also drilled through each joist. Then we inserted the "pin" (galvanized pipe) through the right post, through all joists, and into the left post. We cut the pipe length so that it didn't stick out of the right post. Then we "capped" the right post with a board to keep the pipe in. Sorry we didn't include these details in the video. Thanks so much for the question, I'm sure it'll help others!
We paid $40-ish per drum. Seems like everything is more expensive now. I think we found ours on Craigslist (some guy nearby). Good luck! Thanks for the kind comments!
Thanks for the question! I suppose the best way would be to buy dock hardware made to pin a walkway to structure on the shore. In our case we sank two 6x6 posts in concrete just wide enough to straddle the walkway. Then we made a custom "hinge" joint using galvanized pipe. If you look at 6:10, you'll see we used a hole saw to cut holes through each joist near the end of the walkway. We made similar holes through the posts, cutting completely through post #1 but only halfway through post #2. We lined up the holes and slid the galvanized pipe through post #1, through all the joists, then halfway into post #2. We cut the pipe to length and screwed a cover over the hole we made in post #1, which keeps the pipe from coming out. The hardest part of all this was measuring and remeasuring before cutting to make sure all the holes were in-line and level. Whew, it would have been so much easier to buy some dock hardware. Hope this helps.
Your barrels are too high in your doc they're not supposed to be flushed with the top you need to put your choices to where your barrel touches a quarter of the way on the barrel and strap them down
I was wondering about that also, but they did add 2x10 cross pieces above the barrels to prevent them from hitting the top decking. I've seen videos doing what you describe but I'd worry about the barrels shrinking with temp changes and/or the wood warping and allowing the barrels to slip higher than a quarter of the way if nothing is on top to stop them.
It can be a challenge when the waters that supply your pond, are not under your control (but instead a neighbor or several neighbors) who have cattle &/or, don't manage there own pond, that's upstream. This causes all the animal manure & uncontrolled vegetation from other people, to contaminate your own place, with zero livestock & constantly working with pool skimming nets & safe chemicals to help w/o damage to aquatic life. Ask me how I know 😏. We literally had 6+ different kinds if algae, before our new pond was 9 months old. Thks to livestock & uncontrolled waters up grade from us. The blue dye does help. I've looked into different forms of aeration including windmill style. Power to just to far away to make it affordable for us. I believe solar for us is best, but requires the panels to be about 70 yards from water to get enough sun light due to tree 🌳 during the summer. Looks like you have alot if trees as well. Thks for the video! Nice job! 👍 I really like how you built it large enough so several can fish from it safely. I gotta build ours this yr.
I had watermeal that came back every summer. After spending thousands of dollars and couldn't kill it, I drained my pond and sprayed the bottom. Lake filled back up and watermeal free for 5 years now!
One of the best informative videos I have ever seen very informative... thank you for not dilly-dallying around and getting right to the point and the script on the screens was great and the music was pretty good thank you so much for sharing.... excellent end result
Thanks so much for the kind words! We really appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts.
Nice dock. Need to invest in an aerator for the pond though. I just built a 10'x16' swim platform in much the same manner. Used 2"x6" PT fir framing to reduce weight of the dock frame. Also used eight 63gal black pickle barrels. With less deck framing weight, and higher buoyancy of the 63gal barrels, the decking frame stands 12" without load. And can hold about 1,200lbs load before bottom of frame comes close to water. A fun project for sure!
I saw that, too. I can’t afford electrical service, though, so our county extension suggested sterile grass carp. They do a great job!
@@dottiedavis355 ask the extension office about Blue Pond Shade Dye
I have to go 60 feet out! The hardware is gonna put me in the poorhouse!
Great no nonsense video. Thanks for posting.
That's a long way! Hope all goes well with your dock. We appreciate the comment!
Awesome build fellas,looking at doing a similar style dock on my new pond..
Thanks so much!
Great pier! It can be used as a raft for a mini dredger to clean the lake from mud. To do this, you need a motor pump for dirty water and a suction nozzle Bagermaster
Thanks for the tips!
Nice job yall I wish I could have all of your help with mine tomorrow lol, thanks for the video
Thanks so much! Hope your build goes well.
Awesome job..planning on building one and watching many videos but this one is the best..very informative and good details. Congrats..
Only questions is...is this dock really half the size of the pond?
Thanks for the kind comments. LOL, the pond is large, but you can't really tell from the camera angles.
nice solid build! looks good!
Thank you!
Awesome construction. Very informative video
Thanks so much!
Looks real good
Thank you!
Was there any prep work done to the barrels to ensure their water-tight performance? Very nice video.
Thank you for the question and for the kind words! We did inspect the barrels for any obvious problems. Also, the bungs on these barrels had O-ring seals (not sure if that's standard, but ours had them). The only prep we did was adding pipe dope to the bung threads for added leak protection. Also, I suppose you could rotate the barrels to make sure the bungs aren't under water, but that might be a temporary fix with wave action and other factors that move the barrels around. This was our first attempt at this, so we definitely aren't the experts. If anyone has suggestions on barrel prep, please feel free to reply. Thanks!
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It turned out great. My only suggestion would have been to use 2x10 instead of 2x12 for the perimeter. The 2x12 boards do a great job of hiding the 'ugly' barrels, but they also come much closer to being in constant contact with water - which can only decrease the life of the skirting. But then again, I have yet to build one of these ... so FWIW.
Great comment! We actually did some buoyancy calculations before construction, and we thought it would ride higher than it does (oops, at least it floated). Then we figured the dock weight would drop considerably as the pressure-treated wood dried out, making the dock float higher. After a year, it might be floating an inch or two higher than in the video. Thanks for watching!
good job!
Thanks!
Well done!
Thanks so much!
Nicely done. If I ever help you out next time can I be the guy holding the rope while everyone else is lifting? Looks like a great job for me. ;). Seriously though, great DIY video, Fogies!
That was a good weekend boys!
Yeah it was, and we're still friends somehow! We need a reunion trip to fish and swim off it now.
Two questions....what is the overall size of the dock and what is the spacing on the 2 x 20 joists? Great video - thanks for posting.
Thanks for the kind words, and for the questions! The final decking dimensions were roughly 16' x 12', but we made the framework a little smaller (to allow for decking overhang, and so we could clean up the ends of the 2x framing boards). So the frame dimensions were more like 15.5' x 11.5'. We attached the 2x10 joists to the longer (15.5') sides, meaning all the joists were just under 11.5' long. Regarding the 2x10 spacing, we left a 24" gap between joists where the barrels went, and there were four barrel gaps. That left three 26" gaps between barrel gaps. We didn't want unsupported decking spanning 26", so we added a joist in the center of the non-barrel gaps. If you look at 01:55, you'll see the 24" barrel gap nearest the truck, then a 26" gap with a joist in the center, then another 24" barrel gap, etc. Hope this helps!
Excellent video, how is it doing after two years...?
I am going to start building one and your video is the best I found so far.
Thank you 👍
The dock is doing great! Over the past couple of years It has seen some high winds, heavy snows, and temperature extremes. But it's still strong and floating high and level. The decking looks a bit weathered, but that's expected because it never gets shaded and is constantly exposed to the elements. Thanks so much for the comment, and good luck with your dock!
@@fishingfogies thank you for the update 👍
NIce design guys! did you or do you feel the need to add water to some of the barrels to add stability or is stable enough with empty barrels.
Great question! The dock seemed pretty stable with empty barrels so we did not add water. Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
Hey, did you prepare the wood in some way? I mean impregnate it or smth? while there are a lot of contact with water. Also what kind of wood did you use maybe pine?
Thanks for the question! We used pressure-treated pine because it resists rot and insects better than untreated wood. Many people use pressure-treated wood for decks, fences, and other outdoor projects.
@@fishingfogies Understood, thanks. I will "steal" your project this summer for sure :)
Hey fellas, nice work on the dock. I haven't built one of these since I was in high school, but this is the exact size I was considering going with for our neighborhood park. That said, There's going to be very few people stepping up to help, but many who will have their "concerns" and "what ifs". To keep costs down I'm going to use 2x10 at 16" OC. that will put the dock more "on" the barrels then over them. Did you feel the 2x10s with the 12 barrels still allow a stable platform? I guess I should also mention I'm only using composite decking, so it won't be near as solid on top as yours since you used 2x's for the decking. Thanks in advance!
Thank you! Sorry for missing this comment and for the late reply. We used 2x12s for the perimeter and 2x10s for the joists and it is pretty stable. But there is a little flex even with the 2X decking. I have seen other videos where people space their joists closer and rest the frame "on" the barrels, so it's difficult to say what works best, especially over time. Good luck on the build!
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What would you recoment to keep the dock from drifting like in a lake?
Thank you in advance
We anchored the corners left and right of the walkway to the shore using steel cable. Also the walkway is anchored to posts on the shore. We hope that's enough to keep it from drifting. Thanks!
Posts pounded or screwed into the lake bottom with slip rings. Anchors also work.
Looks like you need Blue Pond Shade Dye
What was the total cost of the project?
The total cost was around $3500, but that was before the recent skyrocket in lumber prices. Thanks for asking!
Hope you see this. How exactly did you install the pin joint? It shows you drilling the holes on the 4' gangplank but the pipe is 5'. Not sure how to physically install it. Using this as a guide to help my son with an Eagle Scout project. TIA
Hello, see if this drawing helps. www.fishingfogies.com/images/dock.png It shows where we drilled all the aligned holes for the pin joint. We drilled through both posts, but only halfway through the post on the left. We also drilled through each joist. Then we inserted the "pin" (galvanized pipe) through the right post, through all joists, and into the left post. We cut the pipe length so that it didn't stick out of the right post. Then we "capped" the right post with a board to keep the pipe in. Sorry we didn't include these details in the video. Thanks so much for the question, I'm sure it'll help others!
that didn't look like pressure-treated wood. Was it?
Definitely all pressure treated wood. Thanks for asking!
How did you attach the barrels permanently? I notice you said twine but is it just set on them otherwise?
You are correct, the twine was temporary. Once in the water it's just the boards holding the barrels in place. Thanks!
Any tips on finding blue plastic barrels at a low cost? Currently $66/barrel on EBay. Nice video, thanks!
We paid $40-ish per drum. Seems like everything is more expensive now. I think we found ours on Craigslist (some guy nearby). Good luck! Thanks for the kind comments!
I'm in Canada, I just picked up 12 barrels for $15/barrel, Edmonton
How did you pin the walk way in place?
Thanks for the question! I suppose the best way would be to buy dock hardware made to pin a walkway to structure on the shore. In our case we sank two 6x6 posts in concrete just wide enough to straddle the walkway. Then we made a custom "hinge" joint using galvanized pipe. If you look at 6:10, you'll see we used a hole saw to cut holes through each joist near the end of the walkway. We made similar holes through the posts, cutting completely through post #1 but only halfway through post #2. We lined up the holes and slid the galvanized pipe through post #1, through all the joists, then halfway into post #2. We cut the pipe to length and screwed a cover over the hole we made in post #1, which keeps the pipe from coming out. The hardest part of all this was measuring and remeasuring before cutting to make sure all the holes were in-line and level. Whew, it would have been so much easier to buy some dock hardware. Hope this helps.
I’m not sure I like it. I better bring my fishing pole over to test it out😂🤣
LOL! No doubt a fishing pole would help you decide. Thanks!
Who’s the old guy?
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Great if you have a tractor
Way overbuilt. Its like this was going to have to withstand highwinds and boat strikes.
Your barrels are too high in your doc they're not supposed to be flushed with the top you need to put your choices to where your barrel touches a quarter of the way on the barrel and strap them down
I was wondering about that also, but they did add 2x10 cross pieces above the barrels to prevent them from hitting the top decking. I've seen videos doing what you describe but I'd worry about the barrels shrinking with temp changes and/or the wood warping and allowing the barrels to slip higher than a quarter of the way if nothing is on top to stop them.
A dock in a sewage pond.
Managing pond vegetation with downstream farming and livestock concerns isn't easy, but we're making headway.
@@fishingfogies I'm just busting your balls man, nothing personal.
It can be a challenge when the waters that supply your pond, are not under your control (but instead a neighbor or several neighbors) who have cattle &/or, don't manage there own pond, that's upstream. This causes all the animal manure & uncontrolled vegetation from other people, to contaminate your own place, with zero livestock & constantly working with pool skimming nets & safe chemicals to help w/o damage to aquatic life. Ask me how I know 😏.
We literally had 6+ different kinds if algae, before our new pond was 9 months old. Thks to livestock & uncontrolled waters up grade from us. The blue dye does help. I've looked into different forms of aeration including windmill style. Power to just to far away to make it affordable for us. I believe solar for us is best, but requires the panels to be about 70 yards from water to get enough sun light due to tree 🌳 during the summer. Looks like you have alot if trees as well. Thks for the video! Nice job! 👍 I really like how you built it large enough so several can fish from it safely. I gotta build ours this yr.