IDW Sonic: Tangle & Whisper #3 | A Comic Review by Megabeatman

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  • Whisper's tragic backstory is revealed. And I do mean tragic. #sonicthehedgehog #idwpublishing #tanglewhisper3

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  • @cyberprime9355
    @cyberprime9355 5 років тому +64

    The loss of The Diamond Cutters was quite a tragedy, crowded and slaughtered like victims of a horror film.
    The variable wispon, mask, and even the wisps are all that's left of them.
    Mimic's dehydration may be the punishment Eggman enforced onto him. He also showed a little fear when Metal Sonic was being dangled over his head.
    But, in the midst of the darkness, Whisper and Tangle actually becoming friends was a warm moment, perhaps because Tangle reminds her of happier times.

    • @fantasykaijugeeks5452
      @fantasykaijugeeks5452 2 роки тому +1

      To honest with such a reputation that the diamond cutters had it was only a matter of time before Eggman send his more sinister machines onto them. Sure their deaths were brutal enough because they’re *Shadow* androids…but they got a somewhat quick and clean job, instead of the slow one by one “I will relish as I watch the life leaves your eyes” of Metal Sonic.

  • @ls_rus4666
    @ls_rus4666 5 років тому +46

    Sonic: why won't you die!?
    Eggman: nanomachines, son!

    • @JessePrower
      @JessePrower 5 років тому +11

      Given the zombot stuff going on in the main series, this is kind of fitting

    • @sufi09853
      @sufi09853 6 місяців тому

      🎶 in the end, I realized you were just like me. Trying make history.🎶

  • @devanarcher7054
    @devanarcher7054 5 років тому +22

    Like the E-Series robots between Adventure and Omega, and showing a "normal" design for the bird badniks in Forces, I love the new unused Wispon designs

    • @adrianleonce455
      @adrianleonce455 5 років тому +2

      While I do like that we got some new Wispons for the unused Wisps, I do wish their designs were shaped like the Wisps. What I loved about the Wispons from Forces in that their designs were able to resemble to shape of the Wisps they are based on.

    • @devanarcher7054
      @devanarcher7054 5 років тому +1

      @@adrianleonce455 oh wow you're right, how did I forget about that X_X

  • @ScatterbrainPete
    @ScatterbrainPete 5 років тому +20

    Cool. Didn't expect those Metal Gear Solid references to pop up in the comic. Reminds me of the time when Ian himself was playing Sonic Forces during a livestream. I actually joined the chat there and, just for fun, decided to post some MGS quotes during those "codec call" cutscenes in the game and he actually read them out loud during the stream. I wonder if that somehow influenced him. If it did, man, I should've gone with quotes from Sly Cooper.

  • @travisherndon94
    @travisherndon94 5 років тому +52

    You know that would explain why Whisper gave shadow a sour look back when they were fighting Neo metal Sonic.

  • @mimik173
    @mimik173 5 років тому +26

    2:31 Smithy did better a wisp tralator that Tails. The honor for the fox is down.

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap 5 років тому +11

      They may have taken notes from Tails or binary code isn't that hard to translate?

  • @baileymaloney3595
    @baileymaloney3595 5 років тому +34

    Press F to pay respects to the Diamond Cutters.

  • @johnathonturner2279
    @johnathonturner2279 4 роки тому +21

    You know how the saying goes: Nothing good ever comes of tentacles.

  • @eldiegollador7271
    @eldiegollador7271 5 років тому +27

    Whisper... my poor baby girl. :'(

  • @proceededspy1370
    @proceededspy1370 5 років тому +9

    So did the wisps faceplant into the ground to leave their signature?

  • @lorddarkraser1704
    @lorddarkraser1704 5 років тому +15

    I'm surprised that the diamond cutters will only appear in this issue i prefer to see them in the other issues and by that i said that i really want them to survived the backstabing of mimic

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 5 років тому +12

    If the IDW sonic series becomes a game, they better have a secret boss based on Solid Snake!

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +3

    I have to applaud Tangle in this issue. She really WAS a true friend to Whisper who only wanted to turn down her help for her own protection.

  • @adrianleonce455
    @adrianleonce455 5 років тому +12

    I guessed Whisper had a sad story to tell based on her actions in her debut issue, but DAMN. Didn't expect it to be this sad. I just want to give this wolf a hug.

    • @jasonharris3502
      @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +1

      Believe me,friend. You're not the only one.

    • @topsychoforyou1203
      @topsychoforyou1203 4 роки тому +4

      I literally bought a $100 whisper plush just so that I can give her a hug.

  • @kunlesanders
    @kunlesanders 5 років тому +16

    So that's why Whisper hated Shadow the Hedgehog, because of the Shadow Androids.

    • @johnathonturner2279
      @johnathonturner2279 4 роки тому +10

      I don't think she hates him. In fact, I recall Whisper saying she knows it isn't his fault.

    • @rjhicks9353
      @rjhicks9353 4 роки тому +7

      looking at shadow reminds her of the incident but ya she said she doesn't blame real shadow because it wasn't his fault

  • @lonelywolf5659
    @lonelywolf5659 5 років тому +15

    Revolver Ocelot huh I hope he comes back with somebody else's arm. And be like whisper it's been too long.

  • @eggboy1773
    @eggboy1773 4 роки тому +4

    Holy shit these comics are amazing

  • @Z0nor
    @Z0nor 5 років тому +8

    Am I the only one ho thinks that the Tangle & Whisper comics are better then the Sonic IDW comics?

  • @megacrashthehedgehog5377
    @megacrashthehedgehog5377 5 років тому +10

    Well now I understand why Whisper gave Shadow one heck of a glare back in that previous issue.

  • @phan7286
    @phan7286 5 років тому +9

    This so Tragic..Mimic is Responsible to Ended like hes own Crew.Even tho those Shadow Robot came from Dr.Eggman and it made Neo Roboticized.Especially, poor Whisper she a had pain,lost love once and had his own Friend The Wisp tho left behide, but she Keep moving forward with the new Crew/Allies ;The Resistance and Tangled the Lemur

  • @Benicthehedgehog
    @Benicthehedgehog 5 років тому +19

    I get the feeling that once this metal virus is taken care of, Whisper needs to talk to Shadow and inform him as well as the rest of Team Dark about Eggman still having Shadow Androids that need to be destroyed. Plus I get the feeling that once Whisper decides to inform Shadow, he might help her heal since he knows the pain of loosing the ones you care about better than anyone.

    • @kunlesanders
      @kunlesanders 4 роки тому +2

      I wish that could be the case.

    • @xanderman1201
      @xanderman1201 4 роки тому +1

      While I would love an arc about Shadow and Whisper having to work together to take out the remaining Shadow Androids and learning to empathize with each other in the process, if word on the web is true about how SEGA is forcing him to be characterized, I sincerely doubt they'll be able to give him the emotional depth needed in the comics to pull it off well.

    • @williamharmon4039
      @williamharmon4039 4 роки тому +1

      @@xanderman1201
      Yeah.
      Apparently Shadow getting infected by the Zombots was at least partially because Sega vetoed the originally story plan for him because they wanted a cocky asshole rival like Vegeta.
      The original plan was supposedly to have him release his inhibitor rings and use the energy to hold off the virus.

    • @SteveCrafts2k
      @SteveCrafts2k 4 роки тому

      @@williamharmon4039 which ones, the arm rings, or ALL of them?

    • @williamharmon4039
      @williamharmon4039 4 роки тому +1

      @@SteveCrafts2k
      Aren't the arm rings the only inhibitors?

  • @Joey64YT
    @Joey64YT 5 років тому +6

    This was a great issue. One of my favorite storys with the comic exclusives.

  • @therandomnpc1655
    @therandomnpc1655 4 роки тому +1

    The hoverbike Mimic drove looked really simular to an ex-gear from the first riders game called "omnipotence" it grants every type ability to a single character
    Just a fun fact fun

  • @Snaaaaap
    @Snaaaaap 5 років тому +8

    Here's hoping they reveal how Tangle got Whisper to open up when everybody else couldn't because you would think she'd just push everyone away. Especially someone like Tangle. Usually in nature it would be because she reminded her of one of her former friends (Diamond Cutters). Whisper is probably one of or the best written character in this book right now with this issue of the mini series pulling all the pieces (from previous issues) together.
    Also, yeah, I wonder what happened to mimic's face?

  • @mimik173
    @mimik173 5 років тому +11

    Don't trust the octo who once wears a mask.

  • @FrostTheHobidon
    @FrostTheHobidon 5 років тому +12

    I hate Mimic even more

    • @sonar6175
      @sonar6175 5 років тому +5

      Well he killed 3 of his best friends and is trying to kill whisper to save himself
      Yeah me two lol

    • @sonar6175
      @sonar6175 5 років тому

      Tbh, me two

    • @cyberprime9355
      @cyberprime9355 5 років тому

      @@SonicAndre2 It may become worse than that, Given what Eggman is implying. Mimic has Metal Sonic dangling over his head courtesy of Eggman. Given that he may be dehydrated since that day(most likely his punishment), it may result in his termination.

    • @cyberprime9355
      @cyberprime9355 5 років тому

      Agreed, Frost. But Mimic knows this is do or die. But, we'll see how that pans out.

    • @FrostTheHobidon
      @FrostTheHobidon 5 років тому +1

      @@sonar6175 He also did it because Eggman offered him money as any greedy crook would.

  • @connorbambridge1676
    @connorbambridge1676 5 років тому +9

    Did no one notice that mimic's bike was the omnipotent bike from sonic riders

  • @mileshk8083
    @mileshk8083 4 роки тому +8

    This is the issue I was waiting for. They made Tangle the audience here, and we saw the events that made Whisper the character we know and love, and this issue only made me love her even more.
    I was also surprised with Smithy's genius technology. Tails could only translate the Wisp language, but Smithy was able to invent a mask that only help them talk to Wisps directly, but also networking with the teams masks so everyone could see everyone. Everyone had a specific role in the Diamond Cutters, but I never felt that someone was the best or the worst there - they were balanced and they could work together.
    The addition of the Shadow Androids was really clever and I hope this could have some connection with the humans, since the Shadow Androids made their debut in Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. Now we understand how Mimic was able to travel from place to place - courtesy of the Omnipotence EX-Gear.

  • @sonicanon2434
    @sonicanon2434 5 років тому +10

    I wonder why Whisper speaks so quietly now, is it by choice or did she receive an injury to her throat that damaged her vocal cords?

    • @averymerrick
      @averymerrick 5 років тому +9

      By choice.

    • @jasonharris3502
      @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +4

      You can pretty much thank Mimic for that. He took everything away from her,which mentally scarred her to forever say things in a whisper.

  • @BaneofCid
    @BaneofCid 4 роки тому +4

    It's a good and touching story for sure. but I don't think it actually works in the Sonic continuity. the wispons were made by the resistance as far as the games said so working with that for Whispers gun is fine. but a mask that allows you to talk to the wisps doesn't sound right. even Tails had a hard time figuring out how to talk to them and he is a genius. seems to me like it's a bit of a plothole. but other then that it was a good issue with good character moments. although I would like to see Tangle and Whisper do more with the main cast.

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +3

    The Diamond Cutters truly were an efficient and well-cordinated team. It's a shame that Mimic shattered it into pieces with his betrayal.

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +3

    Now I want to see a little story featuring Whisper's Wisps and their inner thoughts.

  • @capbottle1483
    @capbottle1483 5 років тому +5

    Tangle kind of reminds me of Batgirl from DC Super Hero Girls 2019. She's very energetic, yet willing to help a friend out. Also, great review and great issue.

  • @robinfire0772
    @robinfire0772 5 років тому +4

    Honestly thought the squad was a Tf2/Overwatch at first instead of Metal Gear. Then again I don't play much Metal Gear to begin with

  • @alimowla3204
    @alimowla3204 5 років тому +10

    smithy is using a gatling gun, i think it's obvious what that is a reference to.

    • @thegoodmudkip3652
      @thegoodmudkip3652 5 років тому +1

      "RUN COWAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!"

    • @alimowla3204
      @alimowla3204 4 роки тому +6

      @Daniel von Strangle
      well, all the diamond cutters are based on members of the rogue fox-hound unit from metal gear solid 1,
      slinger the ocelot is revolver ocelot.
      mimic the octopus is decoy octopus.
      claire voyance the psychic of the group is psycho mantis.
      whisper is sniper wolf.
      smithy here is the bulkiest of the group and he uses a gatling gun, just like vulcan raven who's also the bulkiest member of his squad and wields a, well, vulcan cannon, which is a gatling style gun.

    • @thegoodmudkip3652
      @thegoodmudkip3652 4 роки тому +2

      @@alimowla3204 I think Smithy's gattling gun is a reference to the Heavy's minigun from Team Fortress 2

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +2

    5:01-That's what I wished would happen in this miniseries and it didn't disappoint. A beautiful and touching moment of friendship and coming from Whisper was an added bonus. It shows that Tangle truly HAS earned her friendship as well her trust. It would have even more adorable if her Wisps joined in on their hug as well.

  • @cyberprime9355
    @cyberprime9355 5 років тому +7

    The question is: Will Whisper actually kill Mimic for his cowardly, insidious action? It would be fair considering what Mimic did. We will find out in November 13th. I think it is on a friday.
    UPDATE: it doesn't fall on a friday. It is a wednesday. My apologies.

    • @sonicanon2434
      @sonicanon2434 5 років тому +2

      That's my birthday lol. Thanks for the gift IDW! -if the issue doesn't get delayed-

    • @averymerrick
      @averymerrick 5 років тому

      Knowing how heroes 🦸‍♀️ operates, no. But karma will take care of him.

    • @cyberprime9355
      @cyberprime9355 5 років тому +2

      @@averymerrick You never know. Sometimes, it may come that if its the only to stop them permanently. Creates the same cycle of Sonic and Eggman's schtick.

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap 5 років тому

      I don't think he needs to die and just get thrown in jail. We need more in the rouge gallery than Eggman for an ongoing comic like this.

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +2

    I wonder why they're called the Diamond Cutters? The name IS really cool though.

  • @TheRasp10
    @TheRasp10 5 років тому +5

    *see whisper and tangle hug....
    i ship it

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +8

    Excellent review! I sure as heck do take pity on Whisper, its a shocker the reason she gave Shadow a disgusted look was due to the fact Eggman used Shadow Androids to kill off her team. I do hope this miniseries does get an epic conclusion...!

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 5 років тому

      Hello Robin.
      Yeah, this miniseries was dark.
      I am not a big fan of this tone in my Sonic stories.
      There is little fun in Sonic stories these days.
      I don't like that.
      I want fun adventures not Steven Universe drama.
      Edit: I don't hate that show.

    • @59rlmccormack
      @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +4

      Its ok to have a light tone and a dark tone! It doesn’t hurt to do that!

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 5 років тому +1

      @@59rlmccormack I respect your opinion.
      I also like stories with dark tone
      (I read the Devilman manga,)
      But when I think of Sonic, my mind doesn't focus on grim/dark atmosphere.

    • @59rlmccormack
      @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +1

      Hey man, fun fact, when I write stories, there are times where I try to be dark!

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 5 років тому +1

      @@59rlmccormack Interesting.
      Goodbye Robin.
      I won't return to Sonic comics until the Zombots arc is over.
      See you later and take care ^_^

  • @Johnkon75
    @Johnkon75 4 роки тому +2

    Did they make a team fortress 2 thing

  • @kaizon565
    @kaizon565 4 роки тому +2

    it's true that whisper is based on a mgs, but I think she is more based on Lisbeth and
    Sinon from Sword art online 1 & 2. Please put my comment in your next video at the end of issue 4. love your videos, also look up the their back story's on Sword Art online wiki.

  • @TheInker
    @TheInker 3 роки тому +1

    Whisper kept the video of the Diamond Cutters' last moments so it would motivate her in her pursuit of revenge.
    How many times has she watched all of her friends die?

  • @mrhide1002
    @mrhide1002 4 роки тому +4

    Sniper Wolf anyone?

  • @JezElectro13
    @JezElectro13 2 роки тому +1

    if Diamond Cutters may be inspired by Metal Gear Solid, i can't wait to see anthropomorphic Snake. SNAKE!

  • @mysteriouslymysterious316
    @mysteriouslymysterious316 4 роки тому +3

    8:46 Nope, I hope they don't take him down once and for all. That guy is an awesome villain and I wan't to see more of him in the future. They can beat/defeat him, but I don't wan't them to permanently get rid of him through imprisonment or execution. He needs to be able to make a comeback in the future.

    • @mysteriouslymysterious316
      @mysteriouslymysterious316 4 роки тому

      @@brettthewolfhunter5151
      Nah, they can't permanently get rid of Mimic, the guy is way too good for that. Mimic is an awesomely dark villain and getting rid of him "once and for all" would be bad writing and a waste of an interesting/good character. I think it would be much better if Mimic gets defeated, but can still come back in the future to give our heroes a decent challenge.

  • @meganinten0078
    @meganinten0078 5 років тому +5

    Yeah....
    This was tragic.
    Too much for my taste.
    Sonic comics don't have fun moments these days.
    I am not a big fan of that.
    I want fun adventures not Steven Universe drama.

    • @59rlmccormack
      @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +3

      Dude, why do you hate dark tones in Sonic?

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 5 років тому

      @@59rlmccormack When I read sonic stories I do it to escape the harsh reality.
      Am I a pussy? Maybe.
      But I have read/watched stories with dark tones, like Berserk or Devilman.
      Sonic comics should have fun.
      Just my opinion

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap 5 років тому +5

      I wouldn't call it Steven Universe drama because Steven almost always befriends his enemies in the end. XD
      But anyway I think the Sonic comics need a little drama. We just need to have things turn out happy in the end. That's what I expect for this comic anyway. Although, I agree that the Diamond Cutters didn't deserve such a grim end. Before the Annual and mini comic I was thinking Whisper was always a solo act.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 5 років тому

      @@Snaaaaap Lol.
      My Little Pony and Steven Universe have something in common.
      They befriends their enemies in the end.
      Anyway, if you like this dark tone in Sonic that is fine.
      I didn't like it.
      Just my opinion.
      Have a nice day.

    • @Snaaaaap
      @Snaaaaap 5 років тому

      When I mean by "drama" I don't necessarily mean a dark tone, but conflict in that the hero/antagonist are challenged by, so that things aren't easy for them all the time. Nice day to you, too.

  • @joey-jw3rj
    @joey-jw3rj 4 роки тому +1

    When I first saw Whisper, I thought of Quiet from MGSV because she's a sniper that has little to no dialogue, but the Sniper Wolf comparison makes so much more sense. I didn't realize Slinger was an Ocelot so there's are Revolver Ocelot reference, Mimic is obviously supposed to be Decoy Octopus, the FOXHOUND member that didn't get a boss fight in MGS1, Claire Voyance is a psychic which i guess is enough to be Psycho Mantis (if only she had psychokinesis as well), Smithy can be seen as either Vulcan Raven or Heavy from TF2 with that gattling gun, Diamond Cutters could be a reference to Diamond Dogs, and in Issue 23 of the main IDW run, Eggman and Starline are seen trying to control the zombots through short-wave radio frequencies and one of the frequencies that the two try is 141.12, that's Otacon's Codec number throughout the entire Metal Gear Saga. Sega's showing more love for Metal Gear through these small Easter egg than Konami is right now.

  • @orientallegendcomics1316
    @orientallegendcomics1316 4 роки тому +1

    3:25 why does it look like the Shadow Android is giving a Cat face?

  • @calebartboy7620
    @calebartboy7620 5 років тому +1

    I don’t know ENY of the metal gear characters ecsept snake because smash bros

  • @timthewarlord2304
    @timthewarlord2304 5 років тому +5

    Phantom pain and if anyone make a fan art of whisper in quiets outfit i’ll be impressed

    • @RexWort
      @RexWort 5 років тому +1

      ....pervert....

    • @timthewarlord2304
      @timthewarlord2304 4 роки тому +1

      Rex Wort No I’m not a pervert I just wanna see what She would look like in it

    • @edadankmemes
      @edadankmemes 4 роки тому +1

      Tim The Warlord That's exactly what a pervert would say...pervert.

    • @timthewarlord2304
      @timthewarlord2304 4 роки тому

      Edwin Nah Just saying what I see

  • @antonissa8345
    @antonissa8345 5 років тому +3

    Finally

  • @jasonharris3502
    @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому

    To me I hear Kevin Michael Richardson,Nika Futterman and Yuri Lowenthal voicing Smithy,Claire Voyiant and Slinger.

  • @lorddarkraser1704
    @lorddarkraser1704 5 років тому +8

    I prefer that when claire voyange, slinger and smithy were sealed in that room with the shadow Androids, team dark was there to destroy those pieces of junk with chaos spears(shadow)
    heart bombs(rouge)
    and heavy weaponry(Omega)

    • @lorddarkraser1704
      @lorddarkraser1704 5 років тому +1

      I REALLY prefer that scenario than that thrash. Someone writes to miss Stanley on this.
      I prefer that the diamond cutters are alive not dead, i REAAAALLY want the team to be alive and not dead.

    • @electromagneticpsychopath4973
      @electromagneticpsychopath4973 4 роки тому

      @@lorddarkraser1704 sorry bud, but not everything is all rainbows and sunshine

  • @SteveCrafts2k
    @SteveCrafts2k 4 роки тому

    That moment when Sega went full Grimdark.

  • @ghettodemiking5552
    @ghettodemiking5552 5 років тому +2

    Whisper thinks that shadow is an Android or she thinks that shadow works for eggman

  • @averymerrick
    @averymerrick 5 років тому +2

    Damn.

  • @williamharmon4039
    @williamharmon4039 4 роки тому

    It's really cool how the Diamond Cutters were referencing FOXHOUND. The other two fit that as well.
    Smithy resembles Vulcan Raven, being a huge and intelligent guy armed with a Gatling gun-like weapon. His bio describes his cloak as Raven Black.
    Claire Voyance references Psycho Mantis, both being the psychic member of their respective groups. Her bio also notes that her weapon is named Mantis.

    • @Clerk57
      @Clerk57 4 роки тому

      I read somewhere that supposedly Claire Voyance was actually supposed to be a Mantis instead of a Howler Monkey but SEGA vetoed it. Which I can understand.

  • @МаксимХижняков-л9х
    @МаксимХижняков-л9х 4 роки тому +1

    Waiting Task Force 282?

  • @МаксимХижняков-л9х

    Slinger-Who sling the Revolvers or Deagles.
    Marksman-Who shot from half-automatic rifle.
    Slinger the Bobcat-Shoots from Marksman rifles

    • @МаксимХижняков-л9х
      @МаксимХижняков-л9х 4 роки тому

      Sorry:Special operations Task Force 141-Slinger the Ocelot!
      You Pretty good, but i know you brother, Whisper.

    • @МаксимХижняков-л9х
      @МаксимХижняков-л9х 4 роки тому

      PS:I'm not shocked, if appeared members from Task Force 282, where Dutch "Gadget" McTalsa, Captain Jonny Pay,Seymour "Banshee" Raul, Kayn "Gantz" Derek and Garrick "Teach" Sanders, is a members from Task Force 141 from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare.

  • @franciscaaraos1812
    @franciscaaraos1812 4 роки тому

    Mimic shapeshift his own face to make himself more scary
    . Confirmed in a twitter of Evan Stanley

  • @معتزدعاء-ز5غ
    @معتزدعاء-ز5غ 11 днів тому

    😢

  • @Grey8270
    @Grey8270 2 роки тому

    Honeycomb

  • @themostneontwig9759
    @themostneontwig9759 4 роки тому +2

    Ok about Mimic's mouth. Artist Evan Stanley stated on her tumblr that those markings on Mimic's face are his own doing (using his shapeshifting ability). He apparently thinks they make him look scarier.

    • @jasonharris3502
      @jasonharris3502 4 роки тому +2

      THAT makes more sense. I admit,that was pretty clever of Evan.

  • @59rlmccormack
    @59rlmccormack 5 років тому +1

    Great video!

  • @VampHoppi
    @VampHoppi 5 років тому

    1st

  • @rynobehnke8289
    @rynobehnke8289 5 років тому +2

    So this was much better than what the main Book has to offer but while Character writing is good and all do I have one massiv problem.
    You see this story would be fine if it would stand on its own but it does not it existed in the same world that Main book takes place as well as a world in which Sonic Forces happened.
    These 2 factors together create a big issue namely that Eggman's actions and by extension the story it self makes very little sense.
    You see for the flashback to the past do we deal with the issue that Eggman really wouldn't have made a deal with anybody because during forces did he really not need to if the Diamond cutters really did annoy him this much would he simply send Infinite over and he would have made short process with them because lets be real here Infinite was really really powerful because he has such massiv energy sources like the Death Egg powering him.
    And this issue does carry over into the future this story has to happen after the Battle for Angle Island which in turn means that Eggman is at this point in the timeline already spreading the Metal Virus (keep in mind he did start production/development of it right after he was back to being Eggman) so why would he still make any deals with Mimic when he has a world consuming Virus and a Chaos emerald powered Face ship under his belt (this is getting especially problematic when we remember when this story happened according to Cream's maps in the main book).
    So really the base of the story is pretty weak.
    Well at least its not anywhere near as glaring as it is in the main book.

    • @ls_rus4666
      @ls_rus4666 4 роки тому

      Did you notice, that infinite is never mentioned in this comic. I think they cut him out because of his backstory (NOTWEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!!!!!!!!!!!).

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 4 роки тому

      @@ls_rus4666 I personally thing its properly more along the lines of there aren't allow to use him (why else would Sumo have chosen Zavok over Infinite if it wasn't that he isn't allowed to be used?)
      I mean yes Shadow just murdering his Team isn't all that nice but there pretty much did the same thing to Wispers team here so I hardly believe that his backstory is the reason here.
      This ignoring of him regardless of reason is obviously a problem because well Wispers story would be pretty impossible with Infinite around and Forces plot would also be impossible without him and yet does the Comic tells us that both have happened.
      Also is it just me or is Wisper all things considered an Anti-Infinite?
      Both lost there team tragically.
      Both were the sole survives.
      Both Team's were for hire.
      Both became far stronger after there Team dies
      But one is evil and tries to cast his past away but there other one is Good and is all out for vengeance.

    • @ls_rus4666
      @ls_rus4666 4 роки тому

      @@rynobehnke8289 I agree, but I think they allowed to use zavok but not infinite because of game's backlash. It is common that something is never expanded upon because of hate from fans.

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 4 роки тому

      @@ls_rus4666 I actually thing its because Infinite is supposedly dead after Eggman recalled him in Forces because Sega always bans the usage of Dead Characters (like Emerl or Black Doom)

    • @ls_rus4666
      @ls_rus4666 4 роки тому +1

      @@rynobehnke8289 think*
      And yeah, that is SEGA for ya. "F**king s**t up since 2006!"