Nomifactory is actually fun to play as everyday package. GT:NH is just a challenge. I failed at it but will try again, there is something appealing there. As long as it's honestly advertised it's ok IMHO. About Supersymmetry - some things are just for nerds.
The current version of susy can be completed in 300-400 hours(atleast for me), same for whole nomifactory, and only GTNH rn gives you 4000+ hours of *gameplay*. And in my opinion, playing Greg is more interesting the more time you spend building your base. So only GTNH can give you the FULL EXPERIENCE of Greg. But along the way you will forget what grass looks like. But a samurai has no goal, only a path.
I am happy, I genuinely don’t know why, but I am, it’s not really the huge difficulty spikes and the long waits that get to me, indeed, it is almost the opposite, vanilla Minecraft is what I couldn’t get myself into, but then I realized why I didn’t stay on one world after I reached iron, I don’t just tolerate huge goals, I NEED huge goals to keep me motivated, the more I have to work on the better, I HATE not having a goal so much that I deliberately hinder my progress towards my last goal so I don’t have a point at which I have one goal and after that I’d have nothing, and having nothing, in my experience, is so much worse than being swamped with work because boredom, for how often I’ve had to sit through it, it is the bane of my existence, and since I don’t know how to make my own goals, I need a mod to spoon feed them to me
i dunno bout yall but grinding to make 25 machines for one chemical chain is what makes it fun for me, I love setting up machines and seeing all of them light up knowing that I am finally finished with that processing chain
I'm old enough to remember the original Industrial Craft with its exploding machines, tiered lossy power lines, and finicky crafting recipes. I was so glad when the big tech packs got more sensible mods like thermal expansion and mekanism etc. When I learned some crazy guy named Greg thought the worst parts of IC were the best parts, and expanded them to be even worse, i had the shocking realization that I was a dumb normie.
my "favorite" part of IC (and i think IC2 the times i played tekkit or w/e) was this very common scenario Me: "I would like to move this machine. i will break the block with my pickaxe because thats what i do in the funny block game to pick up stone/metal things" IC: "go fuck yourself, heres a machine casing instead. have fun with that expensive crafting recipe again, IDIOT. remember your wrench next time, MORON" why anyone thought this was an acceptable mechanic, even in Ye Ancient Alpha Days, is beyond me
GT6 is really the way to go for a realistic feeling of progressing through technological ages. GTNH and TFC do a good job of simulating this but in my opinion GT6 perfects it. Technological Journey is also a good example. It's a lot like SUSY.
I think the key to something like Gregtech is to kinda just play it how you normally play Minecraft, while remembering in the back of your head that you've got a long-term goal and maybe the stuff you build could house what you need. People get super goal-focused with mods like this and I don't really understand why.
tbf i agree 100%, but i still find it fun and not hard, also nomi has an expert mode that changes the gameplay quite a bit, re-adding steam age, making some recipes harder, and disabling some mods and features like deep mob learning and snad being super fast, which do change the experience a bit
Yo I was looking up Gregtech stuff and found this video. I remember seeing you in the recent igblon video. I'm not even done with the video, and holy sh*t it's good.
The stone age GT you were describing is a large part of gregtech 6, it's really fun My only complaint is just how much mining, manual smelting, and coal consumption you have to go through to get even a small amount of resources, so i never got out of the steam age I'm probably just doing something wrong though, I'll come back to it eventually
@@robson6924 That does help, but even large amounts of it burn really quickly, and you've constantly gotta be keeping the coke ovens going to produce enough, it's just a chore and a half
Bro thought desire (HV circuits) came without inherent suffering (Polyethylene / Epoxy line) He mad as hell 😂 (Please help I'm in LV GTNH and I don't want to make an EBF oh god)
Maybe instead of cutting out thousands of hours of experience, try making each milestone that player reaches more rewarding, that will give more motivation for players.
Omnifactory is where I started, and that was a good place to start. I agree with dreammasterxxl that the early game is enough and we don’t need more of it. I also like that that magic mods are there but for the most part are not mandatory or central to progression. But is it fun? Well, when I play I get into a time warp where hours seem to just vanish. On saying that, I am stalled a bit at LuV. I’ve been running out of glowstone of all things and that has annoyed me. By now I feel I should have mostly infinite basic resources, but I don’t. Bees? IC2 crops? Meh.
while you are correct about the bricked blast furnuce. When you get your first hammer and forestry crafting table(which the forestry crafting table is available before the BBF) makes the process much much easier. A process that may take 1-2 hours turns it into a 30 minute deal
youre never forced to use it, unless youre a completionist going for the gregstar. anyway it would be a lot easier than GTNH because you can automate all your power and resources outside of greg tech using the other ATM9 mods. its actually weird its in the pack at all since playing with other tech mods with easy resources defeats the purpose of it.
Суперсимметрия того стоила, однозначно! Лучший модпак в майнкрафте был создан вашей командой с Zalgo и planetme. Даже с внутренними конфликтами вы прекрасно справились со своей задачей, я очень надеюсь на то что удастся как либо сделать контент интереснее без удаления 80% контента... Пожалуйста, сохраните весь контент, кто то должен был перенести научную отрасль в майнкрафт и я рад что нашлась такая команда энтузиастов! На крайняк спросите у chatgpt как можно сделать интереснее какие либо аспекты геймплея))
We did, but there were many issues like zalgo saying that he didn't want to add the custom dungeons, planet insisting on a 24/7 chemistry only policy, and that making good world gen and custom mechanics actually takes a lot of time. Maybe in a few years I'll rejoin, or make a new pack, but I've left the team.
I like gregtech in general and find it fun. But I'm also the kind of person who can play on a vanilla world for a year and also have fun. If I was super goal oriented I could understand finding it all super tedious, but I've been slowly plinking away at HV and I'm also into EV. I've been at it for 6 months casually, mostly focused on automating things and getting better at building. I also don't assume I'll "beat the pack", and just set myself the long term goal of "unlock AE2". Once I get that I'll probably set a new one.
I made it to UEV in about 1200 hours then stopped. Just couldn't be fucked with building out a giant infrastructure and figuring out the techtech fiber power multi blocks. Would highly recommend IC2 crops as once you got a farm going (can be automated in MV) it's like having a quarry for anything that you can't use the miners on.
Ftb interactions is perfect imo because it condenses a lot of gregtech down. It's still gregtech and still takes hundreds of hours to complete. But hundreds is better than thousands
I'm playing Nomifactory expert mode right now (HV tier) and I have a love-hate relationship with that modpack XD I usually start playing it, get overwhelmed/bored/annoyed, quit, think about it and go back to it later XD Gregtech to me, is like hitting your head against the wall, until the wall breaks. That brings me satisfaction (and a lot of headache 8P)
6:34 expect its not, where are all the thermodynamical equations and electrode potentials required to even know will the reaction equalize to the product side or is it just energetically unprofitable to take place
That's why I kinda prefer to stick with Impact, which focuses much more on automation and technological challenges. all the magic related stuff is completely turned off (no mobs at all and no nether and end dimensions). and with their approach to ore generation on steam age and electric ages, it is kinda fun. but still waiting for questbook to be in. sitting in their discord all the time for questions during gameplay is not so cool.
That's the problem gregtech doesn't really play nice withheld rest of the tech mods. For multi lock processing Immersive Engineering and Create are the modern players all the fun much less headache why would you gregify that?
I wish there was a factory game that took logic. idk about fun i dont really care. all factory games are just about getting x to y, it doesn't take much thought.
The background music is too good to the point that I finished the vid without knowing anything ya said lol but ye most greg modpacks are either boring or a waiting fest.
Ok im just gonna not pick here it took up till the 200bce to make steam engines. It just took use alot longer to figure out how to use them for more thank a party trick. And we also lost them for a while too so we didn't know how to make em.
To me, it is fun for a few factors, the progress made to reach a certain objective/goal, and since my father is an electrician/engineer, i really started getting attached to this so called "Modpack for masochists", if i should be called a masochist for enjoying the progress i made, optimize it, improve it, and discover new things, so be it. TL:DR For me, yes, it is fun
Regian, my friend... You missed all the opportunities these packs give you! These modpacks allow you to connect better with Morbius! You missed the true essence of any modpack: Passion? Love? Fun? No. Morb
gregtech 5 and its derivatives are simply too repetitive - age tiers, while unlocks new processing chains, is just a chase for bigger voltage numbers. that's why it's not so much fun. multiblocks are cool though, but there aren't many cool ones - all the fun and good-looking stuff is in the endgame, sadly
sussy went way to slow for me. i got to lv and the fact that you cant make super conducters easily made me want to rip my skin out. And because you need to space out your machines because of the drill being massive it is a massive problem. it was just such a drag to get anywhere i dident find it that fun
Just buy a new house that doesn't have only one room so my parents aren't there 24/7! Just buy self confidence to talk in my second language! Yes I can totally just buy that.
recording each fucking voiceline takes more than 10 seconds. Maybe like half an hour for an 8 min video. I once took 2 hours to record a 30second audio message to my crush and she rejected me.
Nomifactory is actually fun to play as everyday package. GT:NH is just a challenge. I failed at it but will try again, there is something appealing there. As long as it's honestly advertised it's ok IMHO.
About Supersymmetry - some things are just for nerds.
The current version of susy can be completed in 300-400 hours(atleast for me), same for whole nomifactory, and only GTNH rn gives you 4000+ hours of *gameplay*.
And in my opinion, playing Greg is more interesting the more time you spend building your base. So only GTNH can give you the FULL EXPERIENCE of Greg.
But along the way you will forget what grass looks like. But a samurai has no goal, only a path.
you should definitely play gregtech again, suffering is what makes life worth living
One must imagine the gregtech player happy.
I am happy, I genuinely don’t know why, but I am, it’s not really the huge difficulty spikes and the long waits that get to me, indeed, it is almost the opposite, vanilla Minecraft is what I couldn’t get myself into, but then I realized why I didn’t stay on one world after I reached iron, I don’t just tolerate huge goals, I NEED huge goals to keep me motivated, the more I have to work on the better, I HATE not having a goal so much that I deliberately hinder my progress towards my last goal so I don’t have a point at which I have one goal and after that I’d have nothing, and having nothing, in my experience, is so much worse than being swamped with work because boredom, for how often I’ve had to sit through it, it is the bane of my existence, and since I don’t know how to make my own goals, I need a mod to spoon feed them to me
i dunno bout yall but grinding to make 25 machines for one chemical chain is what makes it fun for me, I love setting up machines and seeing all of them light up knowing that I am finally finished with that processing chain
Yout put in to words perfectly.
I listened to Stained brutal calamity so many times that I thought I had it on while watching the video, great taste sir!
I'm old enough to remember the original Industrial Craft with its exploding machines, tiered lossy power lines, and finicky crafting recipes. I was so glad when the big tech packs got more sensible mods like thermal expansion and mekanism etc. When I learned some crazy guy named Greg thought the worst parts of IC were the best parts, and expanded them to be even worse, i had the shocking realization that I was a dumb normie.
my "favorite" part of IC (and i think IC2 the times i played tekkit or w/e) was this very common scenario
Me: "I would like to move this machine. i will break the block with my pickaxe because thats what i do in the funny block game to pick up stone/metal things"
IC: "go fuck yourself, heres a machine casing instead. have fun with that expensive crafting recipe again, IDIOT. remember your wrench next time, MORON"
why anyone thought this was an acceptable mechanic, even in Ye Ancient Alpha Days, is beyond me
GT6 is really the way to go for a realistic feeling of progressing through technological ages. GTNH and TFC do a good job of simulating this but in my opinion GT6 perfects it. Technological Journey is also a good example. It's a lot like SUSY.
I think the key to something like Gregtech is to kinda just play it how you normally play Minecraft, while remembering in the back of your head that you've got a long-term goal and maybe the stuff you build could house what you need. People get super goal-focused with mods like this and I don't really understand why.
Because its fun to go for one goal like reaching the base material of the next voltage level for example.
On GTNH this is not possible bro Im sorry but you literally have to do the quests or you just die.
tbf i agree 100%, but i still find it fun and not hard, also nomi has an expert mode that changes the gameplay quite a bit, re-adding steam age, making some recipes harder, and disabling some mods and features like deep mob learning and snad being super fast, which do change the experience a bit
Snad is still super fast, it grows with each redstone pulse
This entire video will go over my head
You got me with the theme song in the background
7:00 I think I recongnize that music
Stained, Brutal, Greg
Yo I was looking up Gregtech stuff and found this video. I remember seeing you in the recent igblon video. I'm not even done with the video, and holy sh*t it's good.
I'm happy someone does GT content. Thank you.
making a gregtech colony on multiplier fun tho
The stone age GT you were describing is a large part of gregtech 6, it's really fun
My only complaint is just how much mining, manual smelting, and coal consumption you have to go through to get even a small amount of resources, so i never got out of the steam age
I'm probably just doing something wrong though, I'll come back to it eventually
just use creosote oil for fuel
@@robson6924 That does help, but even large amounts of it burn really quickly, and you've constantly gotta be keeping the coke ovens going to produce enough, it's just a chore and a half
@@mushroomtaco9992 in gregtech you never stop producing basic materials and just put 4 coke ovens and you have creosote oil
so this video made me realize you and igblon are not the same person
...
I think
Bro thought desire (HV circuits) came without inherent suffering (Polyethylene / Epoxy line) He mad as hell 😂
(Please help I'm in LV GTNH and I don't want to make an EBF oh god)
Maybe instead of cutting out thousands of hours of experience, try making each milestone that player reaches more rewarding, that will give more motivation for players.
Omnifactory is where I started, and that was a good place to start. I agree with dreammasterxxl that the early game is enough and we don’t need more of it. I also like that that magic mods are there but for the most part are not mandatory or central to progression. But is it fun? Well, when I play I get into a time warp where hours seem to just vanish. On saying that, I am stalled a bit at LuV. I’ve been running out of glowstone of all things and that has annoyed me. By now I feel I should have mostly infinite basic resources, but I don’t. Bees? IC2 crops? Meh.
I think that GregTech is fun! I love feeling the spirit of Greg coming inside of me!
I would have phrased that differently.
What is the background song playing during the Nomifactory section?
1 month late but its starbound menu theme
no technological journey mention :heart_break:
while you are correct about the bricked blast furnuce. When you get your first hammer and forestry crafting table(which the forestry crafting table is available before the BBF) makes the process much much easier. A process that may take 1-2 hours turns it into a 30 minute deal
i did the last 2 bbfs in the questbook in 15 minutes
This Video enlarged my knowledge by aproximately 103837%
What about Technological Journey?
real, that modpack is always forgotten about and I think it might be the biggest one
Fun modpack currently at EV
I'm playing on gregtech community pack modern, is that a good place to start?
Im playing atm9 and have avoided gregtech but the pack forces you to use it at somepoint, this video has made me dread that day
youre never forced to use it, unless youre a completionist going for the gregstar. anyway it would be a lot easier than GTNH because you can automate all your power and resources outside of greg tech using the other ATM9 mods. its actually weird its in the pack at all since playing with other tech mods with easy resources defeats the purpose of it.
Nomifactory also have an expert mode
Суперсимметрия того стоила, однозначно! Лучший модпак в майнкрафте был создан вашей командой с Zalgo и planetme. Даже с внутренними конфликтами вы прекрасно справились со своей задачей, я очень надеюсь на то что удастся как либо сделать контент интереснее без удаления 80% контента... Пожалуйста, сохраните весь контент, кто то должен был перенести научную отрасль в майнкрафт и я рад что нашлась такая команда энтузиастов! На крайняк спросите у chatgpt как можно сделать интереснее какие либо аспекты геймплея))
We did, but there were many issues like zalgo saying that he didn't want to add the custom dungeons, planet insisting on a 24/7 chemistry only policy, and that making good world gen and custom mechanics actually takes a lot of time. Maybe in a few years I'll rejoin, or make a new pack, but I've left the team.
@@Regian Буду ждать и твоего возвращения!!!
I like gregtech in general and find it fun. But I'm also the kind of person who can play on a vanilla world for a year and also have fun. If I was super goal oriented I could understand finding it all super tedious, but I've been slowly plinking away at HV and I'm also into EV. I've been at it for 6 months casually, mostly focused on automating things and getting better at building. I also don't assume I'll "beat the pack", and just set myself the long term goal of "unlock AE2". Once I get that I'll probably set a new one.
what about gregtech impact??
Regian, did you participate in coding supersymmetry?
I did, with the help of my friend chat GPT.
I made it to UEV in about 1200 hours then stopped. Just couldn't be fucked with building out a giant infrastructure and figuring out the techtech fiber power multi blocks.
Would highly recommend IC2 crops as once you got a farm going (can be automated in MV) it's like having a quarry for anything that you can't use the miners on.
Ftb interactions is perfect imo because it condenses a lot of gregtech down. It's still gregtech and still takes hundreds of hours to complete. But hundreds is better than thousands
SCal's theme during the part about Supersymmetry's nerdy things makes this a very ironic moment. Luckily, i'm a nerd
This is all a pure Calamity
I'm playing Nomifactory expert mode right now (HV tier) and I have a love-hate relationship with that modpack XD I usually start playing it, get overwhelmed/bored/annoyed, quit, think about it and go back to it later XD Gregtech to me, is like hitting your head against the wall, until the wall breaks. That brings me satisfaction (and a lot of headache 8P)
6:34 expect its not, where are all the thermodynamical equations and electrode potentials required to even know will the reaction equalize to the product side or is it just energetically unprofitable to take place
You should go into Greg6, its the greg i like to play more so im biased
I don't know how to play but i watch your videos because gregfun
supersymmetry is worth it 🤞
Chill packs like Nomi Ceu, TJ, and those are fun for multiplayer and goofing with your friends, but gtnh and susy are for challenge seekers
I’ve really been enjoying GTNH, to me it’s what I want in minecraft
critique: this is literally all of minecraft
That's why I kinda prefer to stick with Impact, which focuses much more on automation and technological challenges. all the magic related stuff is completely turned off (no mobs at all and no nether and end dimensions). and with their approach to ore generation on steam age and electric ages, it is kinda fun. but still waiting for questbook to be in. sitting in their discord all the time for questions during gameplay is not so cool.
very interesting, it doesnt need to be you but someone should make a video exploring on why tech minecraft is fun.
That's the problem gregtech doesn't really play nice withheld rest of the tech mods.
For multi lock processing Immersive Engineering and Create are the modern players all the fun much less headache why would you gregify that?
@@gillsmoke im playing a modpack with gregtech and create and the sad thing is create stops existing at the end of LV
Anyone know a mc mod pack that's like nomifactory uce that has elements of adventure like enigmatica 2 expert extended
I love gregtech bc its hard and takes long and if only my pc could run supersymmetry i would play it 24/7 bc its even harder than normal gregtech
I wish there was a factory game that took logic. idk about fun i dont really care.
all factory games are just about getting x to y, it doesn't take much thought.
The background music is too good to the point that I finished the vid without knowing anything ya said lol but ye most greg modpacks are either boring or a waiting fest.
Do you think its more fun to make a GregTech modpack than to actually play it?
Ok im just gonna not pick here it took up till the 200bce to make steam engines. It just took use alot longer to figure out how to use them for more thank a party trick. And we also lost them for a while too so we didn't know how to make em.
I just find gtnh relaxing (im only upto steam age but going for as many quest completes as i can do)
I showed my modpack noob friend Nomi ceu. Now he is asking me every day to login to the world haha
Klen room of klenliness
cool
3:54 I really hope you didn’t just sit and wait the last time you played nh, you don’t do 1 single thing at a time in gtnh especially early game 💀
To me, it is fun for a few factors, the progress made to reach a certain objective/goal, and since my father is an electrician/engineer, i really started getting attached to this so called "Modpack for masochists", if i should be called a masochist for enjoying the progress i made, optimize it, improve it, and discover new things, so be it.
TL:DR
For me, yes, it is fun
Gregblock was fun :(
Yes
Regian, my friend... You missed all the opportunities these packs give you! These modpacks allow you to connect better with Morbius! You missed the true essence of any modpack:
Passion?
Love?
Fun?
No.
Morb
funny
hot take
i think tfg is fun as long as you dont play on hardcore and die while mining right after finally making it to the steam age and lose hours of work
I think a simple "no" would have sufficed
What do you think about Greg tech if you even played it?
I think it's fun
i love greg bcz its complex fun isnt in greg thet means fun isnt gregy
It's literally ikea gameplay
gregtech 5 and its derivatives are simply too repetitive - age tiers, while unlocks new processing chains, is just a chase for bigger voltage numbers. that's why it's not so much fun. multiblocks are cool though, but there aren't many cool ones - all the fun and good-looking stuff is in the endgame, sadly
sussy went way to slow for me. i got to lv and the fact that you cant make super conducters easily made me want to rip my skin out. And because you need to space out your machines because of the drill being massive it is a massive problem. it was just such a drag to get anywhere i dident find it that fun
Regianus
Gregian
you can't fail (if you don't blow up anything)
so gregtech is just time consuming, not difficult like Better than Wolf
What is the mod that adds scaffolding in the Supersymmetry base you showed?
Which scaffolding?
@@Regian Think he means the industrial renewal catwalk?
You mean the Industrial renewal catwalk?
@@AlexanderLograssoprobably
Hard? Not at all, it's just tedious and extensive. Gregtech is bae.
"Here let me tell you why you think you are having fun but arent" - ai voice... insert eye roll meme here....
Stop, you don't tell us about ftb-interactions it is based off greg too
no
absolutely not
First
This AI voice is so annoying just buy a mic man
Just buy a new house that doesn't have only one room so my parents aren't there 24/7! Just buy self confidence to talk in my second language! Yes I can totally just buy that.
@@Regian Just ask your parents for 10 mins of quiet. And self confidence is easy
recording each fucking voiceline takes more than 10 seconds. Maybe like half an hour for an 8 min video. I once took 2 hours to record a 30second audio message to my crush and she rejected me.
I wouldnt say hard just time consuming (if you know how to play)
no
First