He said on a podcast that he sees homer as the archetypal good father... maybe a fool but he's conscientious and empathetic... he has a high level of obligation towards his family because often he looses his job and is deep in distress because of it. Peterson seems to love homer and Pinocchio lol
The world would be a better place if had more people like Jordan Peterson. He tilts the scale to the greater good of humankind. His words have made me a better man.
Awesome talk! I just started reading "Man and his symbols" by Carl Jung. I so wish school (middle or high school) taught some psychology. So many people desperately need mental clarity and don't have the tools to achieve it (nor the money for a good psychologist)
I’ve started a dream journal and I find it fascinating what a brain comes up with. I have strange, fantastical, violent, loving etc dreams. I never wake up feeling scared. I have an urgently to write it down. I love dreaming
I think it'd be cool to make it a thing on this channel where we share any recent dreams we've had in the comments. I'm sure it'd make for some very interesting reading. I couldn't be the only one that finds dreams extremely fascinating.
Andrew Malcolm I had a dream last night that all my friends were looking old, all with extra wrinkles and balding heads. My one friend who’s gone off the map recently showed up in the dream obese and almost unrecognizable. Suppose the dream was telling me to get the hell on with my life, cause time is going by fast now that we’re in our mid-20s, and there’s nothing we can do to slow it down
I wish there was a way we could upload our dreams to YT so you could get a better idea of what I’m experiencing lol. I am 23 and have noticed a trend in my nightmares. I am ALWAYS getting chased by something or someone.
@@KosmicAura Please be informed that it is a dream common to many people. The psychoanalysis has suggested the chasing dream is usually a reference to a task/issue/person in hand which you think you should not avoid, yet you are. It is a way of the task to get your attention. At 23 one can multiple of those things, the reading suggests that usually within 48 hours you should be exposed/reminded of the task/issue/person of whom you are dreaming ( The chaser). PS- Not an expert/authority on the subject, just reading psychoanalysis on dream interpretation. Thank you.
Just stared at the "Christina's World" painting after perusing art prints to put up in my apartment, at JBP's insistence (after a thorough room cleaning of course) . That painting gives me such an overwhelming sense of displacement and existential terror it makes me feel like I'm in a waking nightmare. A print of it used to hang in my grandma's house, and I'd stare at it in wonder when I was a kid. I found this video after searching "JBP nightmares". Fucking weird shit man
I love analyzing my dreams, i use the internet to look for what the symbols in other cultures as well. Had a friend tell me it’s pretty much your personal secretary cleaning up your desk doing your filing and leaving the most important stuff on the desk for you to look at, dosent make sense to the secretary but she does her job and leaves it for thé boss to decide what needs to be done!
I had a biblical dream not knowing any verse in the bible. I was asked by a priest what was the part of the bible that had so and so in it. I guessed it in the dream. Evendently enough the theme of the dream was based entirely on the story in the passage of Paul. This story helped me with what I was doing wrong.
Jordan Peterson, definitely a master of the divine, thank to him I have been able to understand and navigate better the world of dreams to where the soul travels when we are unconscious
I go on stage in front of 1000s. I'm about to start playing when I notice my guitar has no strings. I look to the wings of the stage & see someone holding up a handful of guitar strings, jeering. Performance anxiety much.
i have had premonition dreams. and lucid dreams. also i read that if you dream something. and then you tell others about it it may not pan out the same way in reality then if you didn't speak it out loud. which is why i dn't talk about them unitl it really happened. i write them down now
From about the ages of 9 through 13 my parents would occasionally find walking outside in the yard (we lived on a farm with no nearby neighbors) with the house completely locked. I would be completely asleep and seldom remembered being brought in and put back to bed...
When I wake out of dreams if I don't open my eyes I see visions and some visions I can remote view what I see if I think to myself that I should go back to rite where I left off in the dream I go back into it.
What does it mean when I keep vividly dreaming that I wake up and all of my teeth break inside my mouth and pour out into my hands into pile of broken teeth?
Losing teeth apparently is a common theme...apparently it is linked to an awoken feeling of powerlessness and not having control over something.... one helpful thing to do if it is reoccurring a lot is to make diary and see if your dream occurs at particular points in your life... may just be that your subconscious wants you to change toothpaste brand lol
Alex Farrell according to Freud - and that would be also my best guess - loosing teeth is a integrated sensation. While you sleep you often change positions, if it happen that you apply pressure to your teeth it simply gets integrated in your dream as loosing teeth. Similar things can happen to the sound of the alarm or if you have to pee while sleeping (dreaming of going to the toilet). There is a lot of symbolic meaning in dreams though not everything needs to be symbolic.
In my dreams im not in control. i dont have the power to change something or get rid of something or obtain something just out of reach. i cant sleep anymore i just dont want to fall asleep to another nightmare
What about adult onset nightmares coupled with REM disorder (not sleep walking but lifting arms and screaming and talking)? Can this be a result of stress or PTSD?
I had three dreams in one night that involved guns, or possible even all three involved shooting. I can't remember one of them. But either in two I was the villain and in one I was the hero or the other way around. When I woke up I thought about the dreams and the progression seemed to be if I second guess my intuition I will suffer, if I don't act on my intuition I will suffer, and if I trust my intuition I will succeed. But, that I was aware of, I didn't have any on going situation in my life that I could apply the lesson to.🤔
I keep having extremely vivid nightmares or anxiety based dreams that end with me being killed, and waking to a cold sweat and a racing heartbeat. The last one I remember was being shot in the head; I felt the impact of the bullet, the exit wound, my head fall and hit something, and then the blood seeping out of the entry point. Been dealing with these types of dreams for a few years now, and sometimes it'll be several nightmares that shake me awake in the night, on the hour.
JBP's nephew had a recurring night terror that apparently stopped when JBP asked his nephew what he would do to overcome it. Maybe if you consciously think about how you could deal with the dream scenario next time, subconsciously it might stop, probably only works if it's recurring. I find regularly exercise also works well to reduce anxiety based night terrors.
Well, having grown up around guns I'm very familiar with them. Having been muzzled on two occasions has really jarred me but I think anyone would be by it. I'm diagnosed GAD, generally very anxious and minor stressors can send me into a panic, depending on my mood. That could have something to do with it.
I had a dream last year (nightmare), that i was running, breath heavy, heart pounding, away from a rather HUGE Medussa. She was chasing me down a huge hallway, and was gaining on me. I turned a corner and ahead of me i saw a wardrobe. So, i ran into it. The next thing i heard was 'come on out sonia' from medussa in a taunting voice, and i then woke up. When i woke, i remember feeling petrified. I can also vividly remember the dream now, unlike some that just fade away...i would love if anyone can interpret that for me.
Medusa is kind of analogous to the basilisk myth in the way that if you look directly at it, you get turned into stone which represents a primal fear response. Maybe you have a problem that can't be solved through direct means, like how Perseus used his reflective shield to look at Medusa; looking at the problem from an alternate angle. In some stories the monster is defeated by showing it it's own face.
for the past 8 months i have has only nightmares almost every single day, 95% of the time like im being deadly honest and it really fucks me up more than i am right now...its honestly really bad
most of the times just when I wake up and/or along the day I perfectly can understand what my dream was about (I know how I think and how my mind understand metafores), but there are some times that dreams and nightmares are so extremely complex and bizarre that I have to wait to interpretate it weeks or months later. theee are also other ones that are a total mistery aparently with no meaning. for me it's like a paralel universe.
I have dreams that feel so real like I’m in the future and the crazy thing about my dreams feels like I’m in them for hrs as if I can stay in them until I want to come out of them I remember meeting people every detail I had one where I got lost and was trying to come out of it when I did wake I looked at the clock it was several hrs later when I take Tylenol pms to sleep I don’t dream but when I take nothing I’m always dreaming I’m always somewhere else
I took a very large dose of mushrooms back in December that went horribly wrong, and now all of my most deep-seated fears and demons are running rampant in my dream state. The other night, I dreamt I was in a rainforest canopy lying about with a bunch of tigers and the sun was shining bright as could be down on us all. There were maybe 6 or 7 of them, and they were engaging with one another and myself in a very playful manner. Then suddenly I was thrust to the forest floor and felt the supreme urge to flee, when briefly I looked back and saw a shadowy figure hugging a tree corner. I took a few paces back toward it, grabbed onto a felled tree in front of me, and proceeded to roar and snarl at it. The thing produced itself from behind the true and took the form of a large, quite muscular black panther with beady yellow eyes and large teeth. It slowly crept toward me, peering right into my soul with its eyes and showing the full extent of its agility and ability to devour me. It felt very clear to me that it was saying "you're not welcome here". At that point, I was thrust into the air above the treeline and soared into the sky far away from the scene. All the while, I could hear and see the panther below climbing the trees with great determination to make damn sure I got out of there. Then I awoke. I think this dream is telling me something about my current relationship, which is polyamorous in nature. There have been no great or lasting extensions made outside the main relationship yet, but the layout of this aforementioned dream gives me cause for concern about deep, unbeknownst fears surrounding love and commitment. The panther to me is a protector, trying to keep me from a situation that it knows is no good. The deep dream state has now given way to insomnia, and the decline in any semblance of psychological wellbeing or clear mental agency is slowly dwindling. I think it's time for me to act. Thoughts?
Perhaps the panther represents your fear of being replaced by another man. The tigers seem to be symbolic of those within your poly relationship; they are a threat to you (your relationship), but have remained playful and harmless in nature, yet they still are very much capable of hurting you. Based on this, I’d imagine the Panther represents a man (even a woman) that you fear may present themselves and usurp you as a main character in your relationship. Do you have concerns that your partner may become more attracted to another person over you? Do you have concerns that the introduction of this theoretical (or actual) person will push you out of your relationship with your partner? I’m no psychologist, nor an analyzer of dreams, but I am a man, and as a man I know that the fear of your partner replacing you for another person is very real, especially in an open-ended relationship like that. Something to consider.
Perterson like Jesus is everywhere, if I went into a any site up on YT up pops JP, it's like going to a party only to find your dad dancing and smoking a joint
When I was still under the "spell" of religion, my dreams were vivid and full of confusion. Since I escaped religion, I seldom remember my dreams ... if indeed I even have them. There IS peace in believing that just as other animals don't have any afterlife ... neither will humans experience any life after this one.
@@adimeter According to the theologians, if you happen to be in the wrong religion ... the afterlife will be one of eternal suffering. Of course I never believed that a god existed that would BE malevolent or judge-mental. I figured that the theologians had to be wrong. "Given a choice between creating humans who will suffer for eternity and not creating the human race … I would simply not create them." Author … Mike Siler
@@adimeter By the way ... on some of Jordan's new podcasts, as soon as I post my opinions, my words are deleted. THIS ... from a man who says that he is worried about us losing freedom of speech.
I'm just trying to figure out what my dream meant I had in my childhood.. I woke up at night terrified, the wall next to my bed had words written in fire " I am your one and only God and you shall only serve me" and it ended with an eye opening and looking around my room and closing taking the words with it ..I screamed for my dad and told him everything... I had a religious upbringing so I assume it has something to do with that..but what really bothered me Is that it wasn't in my native language, and I couldn't formulate my own sentences in English back then...but I knew what the words on the wall meant Anyway as I got older getting involved in online debates I ironically identified myself as atheist.. no watching Dr Peterson videos I can't say I'm atheist but don't believe in an all knowing being as the Christians portray him to be... Would actually be interesting if someone can give their opinion on it? Is it because of my religious upbringing?
I've had an interesting question regarding dreams for a long time...I can't ever recall ever having a dream about outer space or being in outer space. I'm curious to know if anyone has...I've asked a few people and no one says they have either. I wonder why that is.
i find dreams and nightmares intriguing honestly i wish i could have more of the really scary ones,, it might stem from my love of horror movies and the fringe subjects in society,,, I'm not scared or influenced by anything in society,,,, I'm a leader creator not a follower consumer...and its entirely natural not forced...
My most recurring dream is about parking my car and them forgeting where I parked it. It sound so dumb, but it's terrifying (while dreaming). This must be a message to get rich to the point of having my own vallet,
@Fabio Rodrigo I often have similar dreams and assume it means that I want to go somewhere, physically or emotionally or goal-wise, but something is blocking me from doing so. Look at what is holding you back.
I dream of wanting to beat people up. You can decipher it as you like but I know it’s a result of eating spicy food for dinner. Dreams are as much a reaction to stimuli than some deeper hidden meaning. What’s interesting in dreams is how the mind is so creative.
Dr. Peterson, I am one of those “Lucid Dreamers” you refer to on occasion. A creative, writer, screenwriter, fabricator and disciplined in a number of artistic skills. At 56 years of age, I believe now have the wisdom to know far more of my curse of nightly, interactive nightmares than I did some ago. I rarely dream pleasant or “normal” dreams; rather during a typical week I may average five nights out of seven, experiencing full-out nightmares. The type that reach your soul. Some nights I experience multiple nightmares of two or more. Having started loosely keeping a log, I have found that they usually take place in three settings, (reoccurring) with others taking place at random locations. They are almost ALWAYS in bright, vivid colors. Some colors which I’ve never even seen on any spectrum chart... difficult to explain, but almost neon in nature. These nightmares are typically comprised by not just predatory animals, but with some sort of hybrid beasts which do not exist in the known world. These are not very nice puppies. I will not get into much more detail, but somehow I’m always able to deter an animal or pack of these beasts away from me using eye contact and pure will, but with no verbal commands. Once this happens, I tap into their minds, and... This is just one scenario of a reoccurring nightmare and with each I seem to unwittingly hone these abilities, knowing full well that I am in a dream and in control. I even know how much cash is in my jeans once I wake up and what I have to do. At times, I am cognizant of how much time I have before I need to wake. Not sure, but I believe there aren’t many out there who dream like this. I may be wrong.
First of all, sorry for my English, not my first language... I just had a very vivid dream about my mother being pregnant, and it was awful cause I never wanted this to happen, I just have an older brother so I grew up being the youngest and I loved the extra attention they gave due to that, so in the dream I was very angry with my mom because she said she was having the baby, I even considered killing myself... can someone help me on what could it mean?
When I was a younger child, I used to have night terrors. Not the really bad dream type, but the get up out of the bed eyes open still in my dream seeing the most horrific things you could imagine while running through my house usually screaming-type. This happened at least a few times. Once my parents found me in the bathroom shaking with fear and tried to approach to wake me up and console me. I saw them as monsters or demons or something and began to scream and swipe at them like a scared animal. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with my craziness but my mom freaked out and took me to a doctor. They said it happens to some kids and that I should stop having them by puberty. Which I did. But my dreams have always been vivid and sometimes strange even since. I don't know what it means. I'm not making it up.
Phillip Adams damn man that part about seeing your parents as monsters and not recognising them as human just clicked a memory i had forgotten about. That stuff as a kid was truly the most terrifyingly shit
Lately I've been having night terrors. My dreams are fucked up. Like really fucked up. There was one a few weeks ago that was particularly disturbing and paericularly vivid. These men were going to cut my hands of with a stanley knife. I've never experienced fear like that in my life. I wonder what that meant? 😂
Hands tend to be our primary tools for interacting and taking control of our immediate environment. Knives can symbolize severing, which is the threat. Maybe on some level in your life, control is being taken from you against your will.
Nando N It occured to me it mught be somwthing to do with getting pinned down and forceable injected with adenosine when i was a kid. But you may well be right. My life is a fucjing mess tbh.
I had a dream that my 5 year oldish self was cannibalizes by a close family friend and I know it makes zero sense but my present adult self in the dream stumbled accidentally across my own remains that had been turned into sausages that were then disgustingly crafted and displayed by the “killer” in a kind of human sausage model house like a gingerbread house except it was made from human sausage and rib cages. In the dream I had a flashback of my childhood self being lead away from this shopping mall and then it didn’t show my murder but it fast forwarded to the end result and it was extremely disturbing. I remember I had confronted the person that did it and they had been doing it to other people for a while and had been getting away with it for so long that they were extremely annoyed that I had attempted to have them arrested and at first no one took me seriously but then all of a sudden I had people trying to protect me from this serial killer that turned into kind of a Hannibal lector that all of a sudden had a craving to relive the experience of turning my childhood self into sausage and was then stalking me again as my adult self. My nightmare was me being protected by these body guards and being chased and having to hide from this Hannibal character and always being just one step ahead. It was extremely stressful being chased because I felt like no matter what I did this killer was always out witting my hiding spots and injuring the body guards y shooting at them and me from hidden places but the body guards continued to keep on protecting me and the killer sometimes would almost catch up to me to be just close enough to torment me. He would laugh and tease me by telling me how much they enjoyed turning my childhood self into the human sausage display. Then I’d see these vivid flashbacks of the events leading up to my death and then I’d be trying to go back in time to try to warn myself of the danger of being lured away..then I’d almost switch back to my younger self and experience the pain of actually being chopped up and the fear I felt just before he killed me and just feeling helpless and scared but it never changed how the ending would be despite all my efforts to save myself and I’d end up having to witness the same thing again and again. It was horrific. I woke up never knowing what the ending was but I felt exhausted and all day I’ve felt kind of freaked out about the whole thing..wonder why I would of had a nightmare like that, it was really out of the ordinary and it felt very real and terrible. I’m kind of freaked out to go to sleep tonight because sometimes the nightmare has a continuation of where I left off but at the same time I want to know how it ends but I don’t want to have to relive the whole experience again. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
At least you had the body guards! I’ve had a similar feeling dream but without the guards and it was also very stressful. The dream ended before ever being caught by the mystery person but I almost want to dive back into the dream but with a different narrative in mind. This could be a sense of having the upper hand and almost a fun/ninja type of approach to it lol kind of diminishing the threat and putting myself and the following stalker person on an even playing field. Like I could follow them almost. It’s probably hard to do when first going to sleep, But if you wake up half way through the dream you could try take that approach when trying to fall asleep again. Another powerful thing is to confront the threat head on in the dream if you know it’s just a dream. Easier said than done of course! But it is a fun challenge!
If you are a Christian ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Jesus. If you are a Muslim ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Muhammad. If you are a Hindu ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Krishna. If you are a Buddhist ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Buddha. All it proves ... is that dreams are NOT dependable.
Take 5MG of melatonin at night, it is completely natural and it gives you crazy vivid dreams. Keep a notebook by your bed and write down what you remember when you wake up!
Our dreams seem to be a place where our polarity consciousness intermingles with our unity consciousness ... but in a way that mimics waking consciousness ... ie ... the polarity consciousness always tries to rule ... instead of listen!
so we dream because jesus is talking to us... the lord works in mysterious ways.... joseph interrupted the king's dream. we will have 7 fat years and 7 lean years. Make my people, the jews, the real rulers of egypt, use their intellect and engineering skills to build three huge pyramidoid shaped silos. Thus sayeth the lord. And, from the new testament we read, jesus sat his 5000 hungry people on the side of a hill and taught. They were hungry. He opened the hill (pyramid) and made un-levant bread. fed the 5000 bread and bullshit.
Stop being pathetic. Yes , you've had a nightmare and it's not a forecast of the future. It's just a culmination of your thoughts,denials , fears. Scrutinize your thoughts before giving them the power to be in your mind for more than 30 seconds. Be strong- your mind is You
ganymede Jupiter Take nightmares. Consider what is it you’re scared of? Cause dreams are symbolic, language based. What we see in the manifest dream is a distorted, chopped, altered version of what it is in the unconscious. That might be unknowable, maybe it’s scarier than that in which we see in the dream cause it has undergone change to become acceptable to the conscious mind. That shit low key spooks me man.
DukeDolman Ask your girlfriend to meditate about the unique intrinsic meaning association with the dream. No one can answer it's meaning, especially not a tiny description on Google. Lol! She'll have to write the vivid dream down on paper, delve into the spider's representation through meditation (simply ask what it's supposed to mean) and discover what her internal message is to herself. Once she gets clarification, confronts the next step, she'll stop dreaming about spiders. I used to dream about spiders too, it was in relation to feeling unsafe in my environment- once I moved it stopped; who knows what her relation is, but it's something she can conquer. Best of luck!
In Jesus name, I still have my note pad from past dreams and nightmares, I still have in my closet, Most often than not, very explicit sex dreams, and very explicit nightmares, I had a dream last night about the tv show MASH, I watched MASH before bed, last night 9/17/22, and there was intimacy in my dream, I think next time, I have dreams and nightmares, I should write them down again.
Hi Jordan, please keep up the good work. My question is, what do you know about the release of DMT when we dream? We have a new feature film, TRICKSTER coming out in theaters soon that has this question in it's subtext, as well as many more questions posed by the ancient myths made popular by Joseph Campbell. You can see the OFFICIAL TRAILER here: ua-cam.com/video/37D_OKat0Ng/v-deo.html Love to know your thoughts.
He’s making so many baseless assertions in this. We still know very little about what dreams mean. He could be right but the evidence isn’t there yet. This is irresponsible.
There's no real evidence whatsoever that dreams mean anything at all. You can _impose_ a meaning onto a dream -- which as often as not may well have been "edited" into a coherent narrative by the dreamer after the fact. If a trained person can shed a "brighter" light on it, it just means the training has given him a richer symbolic vocabulary to draw on for creating a meta-narrative about the dream. Which is fine, but that's still a long way from the dream having any inherent meaning. Thing is, we _feel_ dreams are meaningful, and we _want_ them to mean something, so we assume meaning whether it's really there or not. It would be nice if someone of Peterson's stature could look at this critically rather than simply accept the assumption.
ChrisC Yeah if you're skeptical enough, you can reject everything. That's really helpful. I get it though, but look at it like this: dreams tell you something about yourself, your unconscious. It's usually things that bother you in one way or another, or trains of thought. So it's reasonable to suppose you can learn something from them, because they're about you. The meta-question is: when is a dream inherently meaningful? What's the criterion? If it must be empirically testable in a rigorous manner and reflect the metaphysical structure of the world, that's too high a bar. However, if people recognize things they struggle with in a dream and if they extract something out of it that helps them deal with their problem, that'd be more than enough for me to take dreams at least a bit seriously, even though there were no clinical trials.
It's not being overly skeptical to reject a claim presented with no evidence whatsoever, and a cynical sneer is no real objection. Never mind empirical testing, just anything not more implausible than the explanation I offered. At least, what I said is something we know human beings actually do when presented with a set of random symbols that are claimed to be meaningful, but which really aren't. That's exactly how tarot card readings work. The proposition that dreams are actually meaningful in and of themselves? Not so much.
"No evidence whatsoever" is just not fair to Peterson; that's what I tried to say. It's overly skeptical. And I just offered an alternative: dreams are created by our brains unconsciously, so they can probably tell us something about ourselves. If they tell us something about ourselves and what troubles us, they have some kind of meaning. And that's exactly the difference with tarot cards: they are not simply a set of random symbols.
Of course it's fair. He didn't provide any evidence, and you certainly didn't either. He assumed, and you assumed. Yes, you offered an alternative. It's not more credible, since it relies on a fact we don't know is true. IS that what our brains are doing when we dream? If you say "yes", you're claiming more than anyone actually knows.
I just now noticed that this famous picture of Peterson has Homer Simpson on the top left.
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David Thompson Mobile it's funny how stern and composed Peterson looks in comparison to a screaming Homer.
He said on a podcast that he sees homer as the archetypal good father... maybe a fool but he's conscientious and empathetic... he has a high level of obligation towards his family because often he looses his job and is deep in distress because of it. Peterson seems to love homer and Pinocchio lol
The world would be a better place if had more people like Jordan
Peterson. He tilts the scale to the greater good of humankind. His words
have made me a better man.
Awesome talk! I just started reading "Man and his symbols" by Carl Jung. I so wish school (middle or high school) taught some psychology. So many people desperately need mental clarity and don't have the tools to achieve it (nor the money for a good psychologist)
ty for the recomindation
This is why Nights into dreams was created by SEGA
I’ve started a dream journal and I find it fascinating what a brain comes up with. I have strange, fantastical, violent, loving etc dreams. I never wake up feeling scared. I have an urgently to write it down. I love dreaming
I think it'd be cool to make it a thing on this channel where we share any recent dreams we've had in the comments. I'm sure it'd make for some very interesting reading. I couldn't be the only one that finds dreams extremely fascinating.
I'll shoot if people reply and want me to post them
Andrew Malcolm I had a dream last night that all my friends were looking old, all with extra wrinkles and balding heads. My one friend who’s gone off the map recently showed up in the dream obese and almost unrecognizable.
Suppose the dream was telling me to get the hell on with my life, cause time is going by fast now that we’re in our mid-20s, and there’s nothing we can do to slow it down
I wish there was a way we could upload our dreams to YT so you could get a better idea of what I’m experiencing lol.
I am 23 and have noticed a trend in my nightmares. I am ALWAYS getting chased by something or someone.
i wish that we could record our dreams as we sleep and watch them back like a movie
@@KosmicAura Please be informed that it is a dream common to many people. The psychoanalysis has suggested the chasing dream is usually a reference to a task/issue/person in hand which you think you should not avoid, yet you are. It is a way of the task to get your attention.
At 23 one can multiple of those things, the reading suggests that usually within 48 hours you should be exposed/reminded of the task/issue/person of whom you are dreaming ( The chaser).
PS- Not an expert/authority on the subject, just reading psychoanalysis on dream interpretation. Thank you.
Be honest, who watched this after hideous nightmare to get back off to sleep? Aaah that's better, so soothing! Thanks Dad!
Just stared at the "Christina's World" painting after perusing art prints to put up in my apartment, at JBP's insistence (after a thorough room cleaning of course) . That painting gives me such an overwhelming sense of displacement and existential terror it makes me feel like I'm in a waking nightmare. A print of it used to hang in my grandma's house, and I'd stare at it in wonder when I was a kid. I found this video after searching "JBP nightmares". Fucking weird shit man
I love analyzing my dreams, i use the internet to look for what the symbols in other cultures as well. Had a friend tell me it’s pretty much your personal secretary cleaning up your desk doing your filing and leaving the most important stuff on the desk for you to look at, dosent make sense to the secretary but she does her job and leaves it for thé boss to decide what needs to be done!
Something is thinking IN YOU. What are those things and what and why are "they" thinking it?
I had a biblical dream not knowing any verse in the bible. I was asked by a priest what was the part of the bible that had so and so in it. I guessed it in the dream. Evendently enough the theme of the dream was based entirely on the story in the passage of Paul. This story helped me with what I was doing wrong.
bacchanal888 have you heard of people sustaining head injuries and waking up speaking fluent mandarin?
Jordan Peterson, definitely a master of the divine, thank to him I have been able to understand and navigate better the world of dreams to where the soul travels when we are unconscious
9:00 should have gone:
Things that make you happy
Things that make you sad
Things that make you anxious
Things that make you mad
7 years of having dreams about being tormented, chased and possessed by a demonic presence to figure out that its my fucking shadow.
Check out, Charlie Morleys TED talk, and his books on the topic of lucid dreaming and shadow work :)
well done for having found out!
I go on stage in front of 1000s. I'm about to start playing when I notice my guitar has no strings.
I look to the wings of the stage & see someone holding up a handful of guitar strings, jeering.
Performance anxiety much.
i have had premonition dreams. and lucid dreams. also i read that if you dream something. and then you tell others about it it may not pan out the same way in reality then if you didn't speak it out loud. which is why i dn't talk about them unitl it really happened. i write them down now
this is very good
From about the ages of 9 through 13 my parents would occasionally find walking outside in the yard (we lived on a farm with no nearby neighbors) with the house completely locked. I would be completely asleep and seldom remembered being brought in and put back to bed...
Thats creepy as fuck bro
When I wake out of dreams if I don't open my eyes I see visions and some visions I can remote view what I see if I think to myself that I should go back to rite where I left off in the dream I go back into it.
oh nice. i want to do that. sometimes i can't go back to sleep. but i'll try your method think about the dream and then drift back to sleep
What does it mean when I keep vividly dreaming that I wake up and all of my teeth break inside my mouth and pour out into my hands into pile of broken teeth?
yes. I was told it could be from feeling like you're getting old.
Hate that dream, I thought it was because I grind my teeth in my sleep.
Losing teeth apparently is a common theme...apparently it is linked to an awoken feeling of powerlessness and not having control over something.... one helpful thing to do if it is reoccurring a lot is to make diary and see if your dream occurs at particular points in your life... may just be that your subconscious wants you to change toothpaste brand lol
Alex Farrell according to Freud - and that would be also my best guess - loosing teeth is a integrated sensation. While you sleep you often change positions, if it happen that you apply pressure to your teeth it simply gets integrated in your dream as loosing teeth. Similar things can happen to the sound of the alarm or if you have to pee while sleeping (dreaming of going to the toilet). There is a lot of symbolic meaning in dreams though not everything needs to be symbolic.
@@DimljenaRiba i always seem to somehow realise it's a dream whenever i go to the bathroom (in the dream) just before i pee and immediately wake up
In my dreams im not in control. i dont have the power to change something or get rid of something or obtain something just out of reach. i cant sleep anymore i just dont want to fall asleep to another nightmare
Man! Would I like to have a loooong discussion with one of those true dream experts that JP describes😊
What about adult onset nightmares coupled with REM disorder (not sleep walking but lifting arms and screaming and talking)? Can this be a result of stress or PTSD?
Both or either
I had three dreams in one night that involved guns, or possible even all three involved shooting. I can't remember one of them. But either in two I was the villain and in one I was the hero or the other way around. When I woke up I thought about the dreams and the progression seemed to be if I second guess my intuition I will suffer, if I don't act on my intuition I will suffer, and if I trust my intuition I will succeed.
But, that I was aware of, I didn't have any on going situation in my life that I could apply the lesson to.🤔
maybe not yet?
Its probably metaphorical, then
nightmares are completely ruining my life lol
I keep having extremely vivid nightmares or anxiety based dreams that end with me being killed, and waking to a cold sweat and a racing heartbeat. The last one I remember was being shot in the head; I felt the impact of the bullet, the exit wound, my head fall and hit something, and then the blood seeping out of the entry point. Been dealing with these types of dreams for a few years now, and sometimes it'll be several nightmares that shake me awake in the night, on the hour.
JBP's nephew had a recurring night terror that apparently stopped when JBP asked his nephew what he would do to overcome it. Maybe if you consciously think about how you could deal with the dream scenario next time, subconsciously it might stop, probably only works if it's recurring. I find regularly exercise also works well to reduce anxiety based night terrors.
Well, having grown up around guns I'm very familiar with them. Having been muzzled on two occasions has really jarred me but I think anyone would be by it. I'm diagnosed GAD, generally very anxious and minor stressors can send me into a panic, depending on my mood. That could have something to do with it.
greasy reece You don't mention playing video games or watching violent movies, so it must not be that...
I had a dream last year (nightmare), that i was running, breath heavy, heart pounding, away from a rather HUGE Medussa. She was chasing me down a huge hallway, and was gaining on me. I turned a corner and ahead of me i saw a wardrobe. So, i ran into it. The next thing i heard was 'come on out sonia' from medussa in a taunting voice, and i then woke up. When i woke, i remember feeling petrified. I can also vividly remember the dream now, unlike some that just fade away...i would love if anyone can interpret that for me.
Medusa is kind of analogous to the basilisk myth in the way that if you look directly at it, you get turned into stone which represents a primal fear response. Maybe you have a problem that can't be solved through direct means, like how Perseus used his reflective shield to look at Medusa; looking at the problem from an alternate angle. In some stories the monster is defeated by showing it it's own face.
What did you eat for dinner that night?
I write down the dreams.
same
Has it helped? Do you start remembering them better if you write them down? And were you able to draw any meaning into your conscious life from them?
for the past 8 months i have has only nightmares almost every single day, 95% of the time like im being deadly honest and it really fucks me up more than i am right now...its honestly really bad
When your dreams fail they become nightmare ,don't they?Mine did.
most of the times just when I wake up and/or along the day I perfectly can understand what my dream was about (I know how I think and how my mind understand metafores), but there are some times that dreams and nightmares are so extremely complex and bizarre that I have to wait to interpretate it weeks or months later. theee are also other ones that are a total mistery aparently with no meaning. for me it's like a paralel universe.
Francisco José Suárez Medina how often do you dream?
I have dreams that feel so real like I’m in the future and the crazy thing about my dreams feels like I’m in them for hrs as if I can stay in them until I want to come out of them I remember meeting people every detail I had one where I got lost and was trying to come out of it when I did wake I looked at the clock it was several hrs later when I take Tylenol pms to sleep I don’t dream but when I take nothing I’m always dreaming I’m always somewhere else
I took a very large dose of mushrooms back in December that went horribly wrong, and now all of my most deep-seated fears and demons are running rampant in my dream state.
The other night, I dreamt I was in a rainforest canopy lying about with a bunch of tigers and the sun was shining bright as could be down on us all. There were maybe 6 or 7 of them, and they were engaging with one another and myself in a very playful manner. Then suddenly I was thrust to the forest floor and felt the supreme urge to flee, when briefly I looked back and saw a shadowy figure hugging a tree corner. I took a few paces back toward it, grabbed onto a felled tree in front of me, and proceeded to roar and snarl at it. The thing produced itself from behind the true and took the form of a large, quite muscular black panther with beady yellow eyes and large teeth. It slowly crept toward me, peering right into my soul with its eyes and showing the full extent of its agility and ability to devour me. It felt very clear to me that it was saying "you're not welcome here".
At that point, I was thrust into the air above the treeline and soared into the sky far away from the scene. All the while, I could hear and see the panther below climbing the trees with great determination to make damn sure I got out of there. Then I awoke.
I think this dream is telling me something about my current relationship, which is polyamorous in nature. There have been no great or lasting extensions made outside the main relationship yet, but the layout of this aforementioned dream gives me cause for concern about deep, unbeknownst fears surrounding love and commitment. The panther to me is a protector, trying to keep me from a situation that it knows is no good.
The deep dream state has now given way to insomnia, and the decline in any semblance of psychological wellbeing or clear mental agency is slowly dwindling. I think it's time for me to act. Thoughts?
Perhaps the panther represents your fear of being replaced by another man. The tigers seem to be symbolic of those within your poly relationship; they are a threat to you (your relationship), but have remained playful and harmless in nature, yet they still are very much capable of hurting you. Based on this, I’d imagine the Panther represents a man (even a woman) that you fear may present themselves and usurp you as a main character in your relationship. Do you have concerns that your partner may become more attracted to another person over you? Do you have concerns that the introduction of this theoretical (or actual) person will push you out of your relationship with your partner?
I’m no psychologist, nor an analyzer of dreams, but I am a man, and as a man I know that the fear of your partner replacing you for another person is very real, especially in an open-ended relationship like that.
Something to consider.
Perterson like Jesus is everywhere, if I went into a any site up on YT up pops JP, it's like going to a party only to find your dad dancing and smoking a joint
The Chimera part was interesting
I seem to dream people are after me and want me dead but I seem to get away then wake up and ask myself why
Sleep paralysis is a bitch.
When I was still under the "spell" of religion, my dreams were vivid and full of confusion.
Since I escaped religion, I seldom remember my dreams ... if indeed I even have them.
There IS peace in believing that just as other animals don't have any afterlife ... neither will humans experience any life after this one.
Um. Why is that peaceful? What did you used to think the afterlife would be like?
@@adimeter According to the theologians, if you happen to be in the wrong religion ... the afterlife will be one of eternal suffering.
Of course I never believed that a god existed that would BE malevolent or judge-mental.
I figured that the theologians had to be wrong.
"Given a choice between creating humans who will suffer for eternity and not creating the human race … I would simply not create them." Author … Mike Siler
@@adimeter By the way ... on some of Jordan's new podcasts, as soon as I post my opinions, my words are deleted.
THIS ... from a man who says that he is worried about us losing freedom of speech.
@@junevandermark952 We are all entitled to our opinions. I happen to be a born again believer.
I'm just trying to figure out what my dream meant I had in my childhood..
I woke up at night terrified, the wall next to my bed had words written in fire " I am your one and only God and you shall only serve me" and it ended with an eye opening and looking around my room and closing taking the words with it ..I screamed for my dad and told him everything... I had a religious upbringing so I assume it has something to do with that..but what really bothered me Is that it wasn't in my native language, and I couldn't formulate my own sentences in English back then...but I knew what the words on the wall meant
Anyway as I got older getting involved in online debates I ironically identified myself as atheist.. no watching Dr Peterson videos I can't say I'm atheist but don't believe in an all knowing being as the Christians portray him to be...
Would actually be interesting if someone can give their opinion on it? Is it because of my religious upbringing?
I've had an interesting question regarding dreams for a long time...I can't ever recall ever having a dream about outer space or being in outer space. I'm curious to know if anyone has...I've asked a few people and no one says they have either. I wonder why that is.
i find dreams and nightmares intriguing honestly i wish i could have more of the really scary ones,, it might stem from my love of horror movies and the fringe subjects in society,,, I'm not scared or influenced by anything in society,,,, I'm a leader creator not a follower consumer...and its entirely natural not forced...
He’s very heavily influenced by Jungian dream analysis. It’s really great to hear his interpretation.
My most recurring dream is about parking my car and them forgeting where I parked it. It sound so dumb, but it's terrifying (while dreaming). This must be a message to get rich to the point of having my own vallet,
@Fabio Rodrigo I often have similar dreams and assume it means that I want to go somewhere, physically or emotionally or goal-wise, but something is blocking me from doing so. Look at what is holding you back.
@@lauracorriss9538 great insight. Thank you.
I dream of wanting to beat people up. You can decipher it as you like but I know it’s a result of eating spicy food for dinner. Dreams are as much a reaction to stimuli than some deeper hidden meaning. What’s interesting in dreams is how the mind is so creative.
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Dr. Peterson, I am one of those “Lucid Dreamers” you refer to on occasion. A creative, writer, screenwriter, fabricator and disciplined in a number of artistic skills. At 56 years of age, I believe now have the wisdom to know far more of my curse of nightly, interactive nightmares than I did some ago. I rarely dream pleasant or “normal” dreams; rather during a typical week I may average five nights out of seven, experiencing full-out nightmares. The type that reach your soul. Some nights I experience multiple nightmares of two or more. Having started loosely keeping a log, I have found that they usually take place in three settings, (reoccurring) with others taking place at random locations. They are almost ALWAYS in bright, vivid colors. Some colors which I’ve never even seen on any spectrum chart... difficult to explain, but almost neon in nature. These nightmares are typically comprised by not just predatory animals, but with some sort of hybrid beasts which do not exist in the known world. These are not very nice puppies. I will not get into much more detail, but somehow I’m always able to deter an animal or pack of these beasts away from me using eye contact and pure will, but with no verbal commands. Once this happens, I tap into their minds, and... This is just one scenario of a reoccurring nightmare and with each I seem to unwittingly hone these abilities, knowing full well that I am in a dream and in control. I even know how much cash is in my jeans once I wake up and what I have to do. At times, I am cognizant of how much time I have before I need to wake. Not sure, but I believe there aren’t many out there who dream like this. I may be wrong.
Aristotle already made an analysis on this subject. Which is still viable to this day.
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First of all, sorry for my English, not my first language... I just had a very vivid dream about my mother being pregnant, and it was awful cause I never wanted this to happen, I just have an older brother so I grew up being the youngest and I loved the extra attention they gave due to that, so in the dream I was very angry with my mom because she said she was having the baby, I even considered killing myself... can someone help me on what could it mean?
When I was a younger child, I used to have night terrors. Not the really bad dream type, but the get up out of the bed eyes open still in my dream seeing the most horrific things you could imagine while running through my house usually screaming-type. This happened at least a few times. Once my parents found me in the bathroom shaking with fear and tried to approach to wake me up and console me. I saw them as monsters or demons or something and began to scream and swipe at them like a scared animal. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with my craziness but my mom freaked out and took me to a doctor. They said it happens to some kids and that I should stop having them by puberty. Which I did. But my dreams have always been vivid and sometimes strange even since. I don't know what it means. I'm not making it up.
Phillip Adams damn man that part about seeing your parents as monsters and not recognising them as human just clicked a memory i had forgotten about. That stuff as a kid was truly the most terrifyingly shit
Lately I've been having night terrors. My dreams are fucked up. Like really fucked up. There was one a few weeks ago that was particularly disturbing and paericularly vivid. These men were going to cut my hands of with a stanley knife. I've never experienced fear like that in my life. I wonder what that meant? 😂
Hands tend to be our primary tools for interacting and taking control of our immediate environment. Knives can symbolize severing, which is the threat. Maybe on some level in your life, control is being taken from you against your will.
Nando N It occured to me it mught be somwthing to do with getting pinned down and forceable injected with adenosine when i was a kid. But you may well be right. My life is a fucjing mess tbh.
Nando N either way its clearly got somwthing to do with lack of control.
I've been having the same issue and lack of control definitely fits the theme. Thanks. It helps a little bit to accept it.
Don't think every single dream means something, but certainly some do serve a meaning of some sort.
Well..either they all mean something or none of them do
I had a dream that my 5 year oldish self was cannibalizes by a close family friend and I know it makes zero sense but my present adult self in the dream stumbled accidentally across my own remains that had been turned into sausages that were then disgustingly crafted and displayed by the “killer” in a kind of human sausage model house like a gingerbread house except it was made from human sausage and rib cages. In the dream I had a flashback of my childhood self being lead away from this shopping mall and then it didn’t show my murder but it fast forwarded to the end result and it was extremely disturbing. I remember I had confronted the person that did it and they had been doing it to other people for a while and had been getting away with it for so long that they were extremely annoyed that I had attempted to have them arrested and at first no one took me seriously but then all of a sudden I had people trying to protect me from this serial killer that turned into kind of a Hannibal lector that all of a sudden had a craving to relive the experience of turning my childhood self into sausage and was then stalking me again as my adult self. My nightmare was me being protected by these body guards and being chased and having to hide from this Hannibal character and always being just one step ahead. It was extremely stressful being chased because I felt like no matter what I did this killer was always out witting my hiding spots and injuring the body guards y shooting at them and me from hidden places but the body guards continued to keep on protecting me and the killer sometimes would almost catch up to me to be just close enough to torment me. He would laugh and tease me by telling me how much they enjoyed turning my childhood self into the human sausage display. Then I’d see these vivid flashbacks of the events leading up to my death and then I’d be trying to go back in time to try to warn myself of the danger of being lured away..then I’d almost switch back to my younger self and experience the pain of actually being chopped up and the fear I felt just before he killed me and just feeling helpless and scared but it never changed how the ending would be despite all my efforts to save myself and I’d end up having to witness the same thing again and again. It was horrific. I woke up never knowing what the ending was but I felt exhausted and all day I’ve felt kind of freaked out about the whole thing..wonder why I would of had a nightmare like that, it was really out of the ordinary and it felt very real and terrible. I’m kind of freaked out to go to sleep tonight because sometimes the nightmare has a continuation of where I left off but at the same time I want to know how it ends but I don’t want to have to relive the whole experience again. Anyone have any thoughts on it?
At least you had the body guards! I’ve had a similar feeling dream but without the guards and it was also very stressful. The dream ended before ever being caught by the mystery person but I almost want to dive back into the dream but with a different narrative in mind. This could be a sense of having the upper hand and almost a fun/ninja type of approach to it lol kind of diminishing the threat and putting myself and the following stalker person on an even playing field. Like I could follow them almost.
It’s probably hard to do when first going to sleep, But if you wake up half way through the dream you could try take that approach when trying to fall asleep again. Another powerful thing is to confront the threat head on in the dream if you know it’s just a dream.
Easier said than done of course!
But it is a fun challenge!
Is that Homer Simpson on the far up left corner?
If you are a Christian ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Jesus.
If you are a Muslim ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Muhammad.
If you are a Hindu ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Krishna.
If you are a Buddhist ... you might have a dream that you saw and visited with Buddha.
All it proves ... is that dreams are NOT dependable.
What if you cant remember your dreams?
@@TGOOD4.0 bro dafuq
Take 5MG of melatonin at night, it is completely natural and it gives you crazy vivid dreams. Keep a notebook by your bed and write down what you remember when you wake up!
I dream vividly all the time. Where is the dreamworld?
Our dreams seem to be a place where our polarity consciousness intermingles with our unity consciousness ... but in a way that mimics waking consciousness ... ie ... the polarity consciousness always tries to rule ... instead of listen!
so we dream because jesus is talking to us... the lord works in mysterious ways.... joseph interrupted the king's dream. we will have 7 fat years and 7 lean years. Make my people, the jews, the real rulers of egypt, use their intellect and engineering skills to build three huge pyramidoid shaped silos. Thus sayeth the lord. And, from the new testament we read, jesus sat his 5000 hungry people on the side of a hill and taught. They were hungry. He opened the hill (pyramid) and made un-levant bread. fed the 5000 bread and bullshit.
Stop being pathetic.
Yes , you've had a nightmare and it's not a forecast of the future.
It's just a culmination of your thoughts,denials , fears.
Scrutinize your thoughts before giving them the power to be in your mind for more than 30 seconds.
Be strong- your mind is You
ganymede Jupiter
Take nightmares.
Consider what is it you’re scared of? Cause dreams are symbolic, language based. What we see in the manifest dream is a distorted, chopped, altered version of what it is in the unconscious.
That might be unknowable, maybe it’s scarier than that in which we see in the dream cause it has undergone change to become acceptable to the conscious mind.
That shit low key spooks me man.
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My girlfriend keeps dreaming about spiders
DukeDolman www.whats-your-sign.com/spider-symbol-meaning.html
DukeDolman Ask your girlfriend to meditate about the unique intrinsic meaning association with the dream. No one can answer it's meaning, especially not a tiny description on Google. Lol! She'll have to write the vivid dream down on paper, delve into the spider's representation through meditation (simply ask what it's supposed to mean) and discover what her internal message is to herself. Once she gets clarification, confronts the next step, she'll stop dreaming about spiders. I used to dream about spiders too, it was in relation to feeling unsafe in my environment- once I moved it stopped; who knows what her relation is, but it's something she can conquer. Best of luck!
Threat Processing
The spiders are coming to eat her
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Does she have a phobia?
DOH!!!
In Jesus name, I still have my note pad from past dreams and nightmares, I still have in my closet, Most often than not, very explicit sex dreams, and very explicit nightmares, I had a dream last night about the tv show MASH, I watched MASH before bed, last night 9/17/22, and there was intimacy in my dream, I think next time, I have dreams and nightmares, I should write them down again.
Hi Jordan, please keep up the good work. My question is, what do you know about the release of DMT when we dream? We have a new feature film, TRICKSTER coming out in theaters soon that has this question in it's subtext, as well as many more questions posed by the ancient myths made popular by Joseph Campbell. You can see the OFFICIAL TRAILER here: ua-cam.com/video/37D_OKat0Ng/v-deo.html Love to know your thoughts.
Anyone see homer Simpson ??
He’s making so many baseless assertions in this. We still know very little about what dreams mean. He could be right but the evidence isn’t there yet. This is irresponsible.
This interviewer sounds like a voice-to-text computer.
There's no real evidence whatsoever that dreams mean anything at all. You can _impose_ a meaning onto a dream -- which as often as not may well have been "edited" into a coherent narrative by the dreamer after the fact. If a trained person can shed a "brighter" light on it, it just means the training has given him a richer symbolic vocabulary to draw on for creating a meta-narrative about the dream. Which is fine, but that's still a long way from the dream having any inherent meaning.
Thing is, we _feel_ dreams are meaningful, and we _want_ them to mean something, so we assume meaning whether it's really there or not. It would be nice if someone of Peterson's stature could look at this critically rather than simply accept the assumption.
ChrisC Yeah if you're skeptical enough, you can reject everything. That's really helpful.
I get it though, but look at it like this: dreams tell you something about yourself, your unconscious. It's usually things that bother you in one way or another, or trains of thought. So it's reasonable to suppose you can learn something from them, because they're about you.
The meta-question is: when is a dream inherently meaningful? What's the criterion? If it must be empirically testable in a rigorous manner and reflect the metaphysical structure of the world, that's too high a bar. However, if people recognize things they struggle with in a dream and if they extract something out of it that helps them deal with their problem, that'd be more than enough for me to take dreams at least a bit seriously, even though there were no clinical trials.
It's not being overly skeptical to reject a claim presented with no evidence whatsoever, and a cynical sneer is no real objection.
Never mind empirical testing, just anything not more implausible than the explanation I offered. At least, what I said is something we know human beings actually do when presented with a set of random symbols that are claimed to be meaningful, but which really aren't. That's exactly how tarot card readings work. The proposition that dreams are actually meaningful in and of themselves? Not so much.
"No evidence whatsoever" is just not fair to Peterson; that's what I tried to say. It's overly skeptical.
And I just offered an alternative: dreams are created by our brains unconsciously, so they can probably tell us something about ourselves. If they tell us something about ourselves and what troubles us, they have some kind of meaning. And that's exactly the difference with tarot cards: they are not simply a set of random symbols.
ChrisC I tend to agree.
Of course it's fair. He didn't provide any evidence, and you certainly didn't either. He assumed, and you assumed.
Yes, you offered an alternative. It's not more credible, since it relies on a fact we don't know is true. IS that what our brains are doing when we dream? If you say "yes", you're claiming more than anyone actually knows.
The ringo star guys voice is annoying
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