CinePI V2 by Schoolpost | Hands-On
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2023
- Showcasing the CinePI V2 design made by Schoolpost. This is just one of many designs that are possible, given the open-source nature of the CinePI project.
Here is a link to Schoolpost's CinePI V2 design on GitHub: github.com/schoolpost/CinePI
Clarification: * Boot up time shown in video is due to editing, real boot time ranges from 17-20 seconds. *
To learn more and build your own camera: cinepi.io
GitHub: github.com/cinepi
Discord Community: / discord - Наука та технологія
I'd love a more in depth camera rundown - full price of components, full shooting specs, and footage showcase in a more conventional examples with a subject in both studio lighting and daylight with a chip chart.
lol you want some fries with that too?
@@kBarBeats no, just performance examples for the camera would be good
@@jacobnussbaum2309You can see the video shot from it on Schoolpost channel under the video titled TIMEKEEPER.
Man, I'm gonna need to build one of these soon ;)
Love the channel GX, if you haven't yet join the discord to learn more!
How is it coming along?
This is incredible, and such an awesome idea! Can't wait to see how this evolves with the open source community. Would love to see a follow-up video detailing the specs/a build guide and more footage showcase (other than the Ocean Odyssey one).
It's incredible to think that the Raspberry Pi Camera is capable of capturing cinematic shots-this is truly amazing!
Incredible! I imagine that in short time RED cameras are going to have serious competition with an open-source camera!
Edit: Definitely didn’t think about this comment through. Oops.
This is not competitive with red
@@verebellusthey didn't say it was.
#doubt considering some popular brands with millions in research budget still struggle to implement autofocus
Not gonna happen
Never gonna happen Red simply slaps everyone attempting to do raw recording with a lawsuit
This is awesome. Can't wait to see how Raspberry Pi 5 improves things. Hopefully 4k, or even 6k sensors can be added.
this is a crazy project, until now i have never seen such a polished project utilizing the raspberry pi camera!
This is so cool. I am excited ad the development because this means that cinema quality recording capabilities will be more accessible (compared to cameras from big brands that cost thousands of dollars) for everyone!
Thanks for investing your valuable time to make this :)
This is such an amazing achievement, please add basic functionality for a stills camera, I'm sure the photography community would love to help with this :)
Very cool project!
Menu navigation clearly still needs some work though, considering it looks a little clunky even in an official video.
And I would of course really love to see a proper professionally sized sensor in the future.
But this is an amazing start. We desperately need more variation in the camera market.
this is awesome! i joined the discord just now cause i wanna see if i can learn how to make one of these, im an aspiring filmmaker and i just want a camera i can feel attached to, and this seems awesome. I’m really new to raspberry pi/ 3d printing and all that so ill def be asking for alot of help. awesome stuff!!
Great project!
Wow, Wow, Wow!!! The CinePi Project has huge potential for Indie Movies.
This looks very promising!
As other commenters wrote, would love to :
- see more footage!
- know a bit more about the parts needed (beyond a Pi - which version ? -, a screen, a lens, a mount and a 3d printer of course 😅), and the costs. Actually learning about the build process itself would be really nice (and probably needed)
- learn about the current sensor size
- see if there could be possible alternate mounts in the future, CCTV lenses being, well, what they are… are there licensing costs for let’s say, a PL mount 😂?
- the website looks to be down (or it’s just me)
Thank you, cannot wait to see more!
You want machine vision lenses, but overall lenses designed for this sensor size are far superior than using wide angle lenses designed for a larger sensor.
You really need quality lenses for those tiny pixels.
A wide angle lens on this system is in the range of 2-3mm in focal length.
I love it! Now on my "To Do" list...
Really cool project, what size print tray do you need on your 3d printer?
Mental Outlaw sent me. Very nice project! Was this video made with CinePI?
this is incredible. plan on making one next month. do you know the approximate dynamic range? CinemaDNG 12 bit is fantastic, but not as useful if the dynamic range is only like 8 stops or something... (still cool, will still build it and use it regardless)
There's great technical write-up available here discussing the sensor performance of the HQ Camera: www.strollswithmydog.com/pi-hq-cam-sensor-performance/
Is the latest pi 5 supported? Would be nice also if we can just find a way to use MFT lenses cause it should cover the sensor as well
Would love a lot of test footage!
Hi! I’d love to get involved with this community - have joined the discord server and I’m learning as much as I can. I’m not super technical but I could definitely bring some awareness to the project via my UA-cam channel. Great work!
Hi Simon!, long time viewer of the channel. Feel free to ask questions in the discord, or DM us any questions there. Would love to get the message out to more people.
Hello !
Your discord is down unfortunately !
Hey man thanks so much for making this! I already saw some of your sample footage you provided via Google Drive - is there more? I'd love to experiment with some footage and maybe even cut together some trailers or show-reels for the camera - this is amazing! Would love to get to building this as soon as I can - sadly I'm currently more than busy keeping my life in order but would love to somehow contribute to this awesome project!
We will try to post some more sample footage into the google drive! If you haven't yet, join our discord community where there is more extensive discussion happening around CinePI.
@@cinepicamera I sure will! Thanks so much for the quick response!
I got everything I need minus a few small pieces that are on the way. This is going to be a fun weekend.
Brilliant!
One thing however, I watched a sample video and while the quality is great, it was shaky, which unfortunately was distracting.
Any idea how stability can be improved?
We dont have support for it yet, but if you're crafty you can add an IMU ( MPU-6050 ) and record the camera movement / orientation data, and using software like gyroflow you can stabilize the footage.
Hey, cinema cameras don't have stabilization either. Even in massmarket, such as bmpcc. It's OK for the industry. External stabilization systems can be used. There are many different ones to suit any budget.
I’d be very interested in a different sensor, with a more common lens mount. Maybe even a focal reducer to truly see it’s cinematic capabilities
Integrating a different sensor would be a great deal more effort. This sensor is used due to it's preexisting compatibility with the Raspberry Pi. The best hope is for an improved sensor on the next-generation Raspberry Pi cameras or for a compatible sensor module to be developed by a third party once the CinePi community is established.
@@stealthwang a focal reducer then
@@stealthwang just to see how we can do a proper lens. Honestly though, mapping a new sensor shouldn’t be that hard.
You need high quality lenses for those tiny pixels, if you add focal reducers and use compromised lenses designed for larger sensors.. you are not going to get close to utilizing the sensor.
Its uses a IMX 477 sensor, it has 1.55 µm pixel size. Large sensor lenses cant resolve pixels that small, especially if you use extra lenses in between.
Amazing! Does it record on the highest resolution as shown in the settings menu?
The highest resolution mode on the HQ camera ( IMX477 sensor ) is 4056x3040, however due to the 2 data lane limitation of the Pi4, it can only do that resolution at 10fps. The 2028x1520 or 2028x1080 modes use 2x2 binning, which means it does not crop the sensor, so you get full field of view and up to 50fps.
@@cinepicamera That's absolutely brilliant, I wonder how it's going to respond on the pi 5
What would happen with the PI 5?
wow!
Impressive! Do you think there would ever be benefit from using two raspberry pis for increased performance, or would looking for a more powerful board be the way to go?
what would more power do?
@DrGeta666 more power opens up the option of doing more frames persecond, aka slow motion. instead of just 4k 24fps, you could film in 4k 48fps or 4k 120fps, etc.
If you wanted to do additional post processing like sharpening/noise reduction/lens corrections/etc, those options open up as well.
@@Tortwaller image resolution and frame rate is limited by the sensor not the cpu
@DrGeta666 resolution yes, but a camera with slower processing power will struggle with anything higher framerate. check out the Komodo vs Komodo X.
@@DrGeta666 false, Resolution is limited by sensor.
Framerate (for a electronic shutter mechanisim) is limtied by cpu preformence, as well as the camera's ability to manage its temerpature (need beefy cooling systems for higher framerates)
I hope someone creates a APSC and full frame sensor for the pie 🥧 that's a bit of a dream
That is slick mate, is that the actual boot up time, or is it in sleep mode before the screen turns on?
The actual boot up time is closer to 17-20 seconds. For sake of keeping the showcase video short it was edited, I've updated the video description to address.
Amazing 😍😍 I wil plan build this camera. Pi5 support at the moment?
Pi5 support is in development.
Will this be able to emulate a Blackmagic cam to the extent that it can be controlled from a Blackmagic ATEM (except for focus and aperture of course)?
The boot time is crazy fast! What is your secret!?!
Edit:
Ok, saw you’re update. Still pretty fast though.
If there was a way to get magic lantern support that would be incredible. What are the compatible sensors?
What is the maximum quality and framerate that it can record in?
What is the lens mount? Looks like you maybe have a c-mount lens in this video but I don’t want to assume too much. I would love to have a native c-mount super 8 sensor camera as I have a lot of c-mount lenses, including the Angenieux 8-64mm s8mm zoom lens.
It is a C/CS mount. It is using the Raspberry Pi High Quality Camera Module
Nice ! Is there any external microphone port ? or just a video only without audio recording?
Audio recording is possible through USB audio interface ( just like a PC ) but this functionality is not implemented yet.
@@cinepicamera Cool! I think most of the USB sound card only has mono input, for stereo input, the USB sound card will be very big in size, not suitable for portable. Hope stereo audio support will be implemented real soon. Thank you.
Is there any way to use this as a webcam? I'm using showmewebcam right now with a pi and HQ module. The maximum resolution is 1080p30 and it's really difficult to change camera settings.
oh this is so great. i am a cinematographer/VFX artist and have a Pi4. i would love to put toguether something like this.
Could this be built with a full frame sensor for better low light performance?
and I just happend to have a several old M42 camera bodies and several lenses on my shelves.. long and cold winternights may see some progress on making camera of two eras
What gimbal can I use on this unit? Where would it attach to?
we need atleast MFT sensor , else its a great thought , i m excited to see where this goes ..
How long are the clips that this camera can record?
Would the updated Pi5 make more performance boost? ETA Prime overclocked the Pi5 to 3ghz. Incredible project.
Most likely, I anticipate it should be able to handle 4K sensors very well. But testing will need to be done first.
I watch a guy here in YT and he has this similar project but not this successful, since he ain't good with hardware and programming. But his aim was like the Nishiki camera with multiple lens taking a picture at the same time then making a gif out of it. Maybe in your line to make a side feature?
I'm very curious about the specs and range of capabilities of this camera. Can it shoot 6 K?
Hi brother , I am sorry for the inconvenience. I have another question. I would like to run Cine V2 on a raspberry pi CM4. The program is running but there is no image. I hope you can help me to operate the camera. The sensor I used is an HQ camera imx477. The reason for choosing this board because its small size, And a good feature 8GB ram 32 GB eMMC .
Where can we get the products? I would love to build one but don't know where to buy the products! Thanks
We need to spread the word, MKBHD, LTT/LMG a shout out from any of them would get the right eyes on the project. Maybe get a few dollars towards helping the OG creator get this going AMAZING idea ❤
Can the HDMI ports of the pi be outputting the image to an atem mini for live streaming?
Yes, this is possible.
look into having a monochrome sensor support, then it would offer something thats not really available on the markets expect at leica prices
can you add slowmotion fearures? the pi hq camera can record 1000fps
I need to see Van Neistat build one of these.
This would be awesome for Affordable, highly customizable, PTZ cameras live streaming set ups. I’m sure it’s very easy to add poe to this.
I actually prefer the potentiometers version. Tactile controls are way cooler than touch!
Anyone knows where we could buy the material to build one? Thanks.
Hello brother, I have a question: Can I use the Raspberry Pi Zero WH on this same software and what about Zero Spy Camera? Does it work on this software?
You are free to try, but no; the publicly available CinePI V2 image is only for Pi 4.
I really want one but don't know how to get one
Will this work with a Pi 5?
Without having a Pi5 to test, we cannot say for sure...however I have a feeling much of the CinePI codebase will work on the new Pi5 without much hassle, and with the greater compute performance, it should work even better!
And audio still isn't included in the videos, right?
@@jeffrey.edgett Not currently, but is something being actively investigated for a future version.
@@cinepicamera I really want to make one, waiting to see if you have a new build with the Pi 5 soon!
Hello brother, I have a question: Can I use Raspberry Pi5 to operate the camera? Is the software suitable for Raspberry Pi5?
This is under development currently, but in the future, yes.
@@cinepicamera Thanks🤍
please upload some more test footage
My most recent short film was shot using a CinePI V2, majority of parts from ( 1:12-3:01 ) : ua-cam.com/video/xMy3GHjYIKw/v-deo.html
Not rundown on this bad boy?
Hmmm.
What if mix this project with OpenHD?
What is a ballpark estimate on the cost of building one of these?
$250-$300, alot of that depends on much you accessorize after the core build. ( what lenses you choose, camera cage / rigging parts, what capacity of SSD media did you chose, etc... )
the build link is not available
Any list of compatible sensors?
CinePI should work with sensors that are Raspberry Pi compatible and have proper driver and support in libcamera.
@@cinepicamera Was hoping more any MIPI-CSI2 connected sensor, and even the HDMI-to-CSI boards.
where is sample footage?
We have a public google drive with some samples here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c4WDNriE_ztdtA47R_QtyvzmnXrao-0Z
People are struggling to differentiate cinema camera to a typical mirrorless dslr camera.
And here u are asking features from from a dslr or mirrorless camera.
Again, autofocus and stabilization is not basic features of a cinema camera, u can solve thise problems by rigging those out.
What matters are basic video features, resolution, sensor size, cpu, recording codecs, buffer time and storage media.
1. Will it eventually have a glorious heavenly sensor to beat them all.
2. Will it have the best internal image stabilisation of all
3. Will it have adapters for most commonly used lens manufactures, with manual and autofocus options (think Sony)
4. Will it eventually obliterate stupidly expensive cameras like RED, and similar
5. Will it eventually record in RAW, internally, for at least 45 minutes, continuously, via SSD (internally).
If you look up to the sky, you'll find there is no limit.
Put IBIS in it
Suggestions
Micro four thirds, Super 35 and Full Frame versions with interchangeable lens mounts
120fps capabilities
Phase detection auto focus