It's too bad that the "anti generator crowd" are so prevalent where you live. In my area in the US, such persons are much harder to find, as they often don't want to risk catching one of the myriad "anti" social diseases, such as "Pit Bull Slobber" or "Terminal Lead Poisoning".
thanks for the information, fairly new to it. and totally makes sense to have one on hand for a crappy day. I was thinking of going the garage charger generator option for emergencies the info about the charging amps was very helpful cheers mate. its also effective at charging a power station. like the ecoflow delta 2 as it does it extremely fast and you can switch it off. (about 40min)
Thank you for the video! I just started looking for a generator to charge my batteries and was shocked by the low DC output ratings. So I came to you tube to see what the deal was and found your video. So to get the most charging power out of the generator the power has to be converted from DC to AC then back to DC?! Crazy!
Thank you very much for this brilliant video you have really helped me with finding a more practical solution to charging my canal boat batteries more efficiently during our UK winter evenings.
I have solar, but on days where there is not enough sun to keep up, a portable generator is very useful. But I only use it to make up the shortfall, not to run all day.
Hi, I have a 2.2kw petrol generator the instructions say i need to ground it, would i need to ground it charging a battery using a battery charger from the 240 outlet or if i was using an extension lead to power a device such as a domestic fridge or a microwave ? Thanks in advance.
Hey Richard. Most folk (me included) either dont know or dont care about the risks of not having a proper earth. Some folk install RVD device to compliment the van's RCD. Youll find that most generators have an earth terminal which you can connect to a metal stake belted into the ground.
Thanks! I was planning on buying a 100ah lithium battery and using my generator to charge it. Are most battery chargers okay to charge 12v lithium batteries too?
Hi, I have a generator and a battery charger to charge my battery, however I wasn’t sure if I need to unplug everything from my battery first (Solar panels, Inverter etc). Thanks
Smart chargers can play well together, particularly during bulk charging. They can conflict with each other when in maintenance modes but at that stage your batteries will be 80%+ charged anyway
Ha, it's mostly limited to social media ranting from behind the safety of a keyboard. They do get very vocal online but I'm yet to actually meet one of these righteous sheriffs in the wild. 🤣
@@lornaz1975 Mostly noise. Generators are 100% legal unless othwise signed. Screaming kids, music, wandering dogs, camping on top of each other are all ok tho
@@Clip_It1 Kipor GS2000 & Honda EX500 gensets. Supercheap 20A smart charger. The chargers charging ouput is dependant each on combined generator output and charger output, and its best to pair them accordingly. Some chargers with higher output cant deal with generators that cant keep up ie if the charger requires say 750w@240v some chargers cant regulate a generator with a low output than that 750w. There would be waste and excess cost having a large generator only powering a small charger. A good example is a Noco 50A charger and a 1000w genset. Genset will have constant output of 900w and the Noco 50A requires 750w to charge at its 50A capacity. Noco are very efficient, so the smaller genset would be pefectly paired and 50A charging output is a good middle range
Hey Pete, if you'd witnessed the relentless mis-treatment our other Kipor put up with at the farm for years, youd be rushing out to but one ... couldnt kill it regardless how hard we tried. Ha. ;)
Exactly the information i was looking for. Would it also be possible to plug 2- 20 amp chargers into one generator and charge a 100 amp battery fully in 2 1/2 hours?
Hey Dan, not ideal to run 2 x 240v smart chargers on the same battery, the charge profiles would need to identical. I have to reset my Enerdrive 60A charger's output to 40A in order to use my 1kVA Honda genset. I think from memory the Enerdrive charger requires 1050W set to 60A and 700W set to 40A
Here's one for you. I've just installed my first VSR split relay. Before I charged bat for about half an hour every day straight off the 12v dc output and noticed with a very good battery the voltage would go up into the 16's and settle at 12.9. A good battery, or good enough may go up to 13.2 and settle at say 12.5, which is good enough right. Now, with the split charger wired in the voltage read across the top of the bat with the 12v dc hammering in has dropped to 13.3 which is exactly the regulation specification for the split charger.... but.... in reverse, I mean I'm charging the leasure battery that is wired to the starter but charging it just by connecting the genny 12v dc, so the current may be going through the VSR but not coming through it. So wtf's the magic of that? How can the split charger maintain the cross voltage at 13.3 when the dc is plugged straight on the bat?
Hi Vagare! Thanks for the video, very explanatory :) Could you tell me which generator is it? I'm planning on powering a 40A smart battery charger to charge a 400Ah battery bank (4 x 100ah batteries). I was looking at buying the EU2200i honda inverter generator, but seems it only outputs 18A and that wouldn't be enough... I was thinking about this setup, so that when i'm off grid I use the generator the least possible (say, charge the battery bank every 4 days), so it's less of a hassle and annoyance for me and everybody else. I'm new to this thou... does what i'm saying make sense?
Hey Jose, the generator in the vid is a Kipor GS2000 (2kW). Youll need a bigger generator to run a charger at 40A. You could get around 40A per day into your batteries with a single 200w solar panel.
Can you explain why a noco pro 50 wouldn't work in a 2000w generator? Honestly I don't know how it's possible but specs claim 750watts power consumption.
Good video mate. I'm a total noob regarding amps watts . I would like to run an electric trolling motor for 6 hours at top speed it uses 42 a and 500 w may you please give me some advice what to buy to do the job. Best regards Adam.
42A means 42A per hour. The 500w come from 42A x 12volts. 42A is a lot of energy per hour. Power required is just 42A x 6hrs. To run it for 6hrs x 42A with an wet battery is not viable, even with lithium it would equate to 300ah which with Enerdrive is a 40kg $3000 battery. Are you sure its 42A ???
@@collowood buy a decent 240v smart charger and run it from the generator. As mentioned by another commenter the Noco Genius Pro 50 is very expensive but should punch out a full 50A per hour on a 1kW. generator
@@waad4054 smart charger will stop charging when the battery is fully charged and switch to a maintenance mode. It term of generator run time, it isnt difficult to estimate charging time based on battery SOC and the chargers output
RIGHT: HE SAYS Don't use the 12v output, use the inverter output and a car battery charger because there is no power regulation - saved you 10 minutes.
Thank you, very helpful. I am looking at making an EV that is charged on the go with a generator/charger. This has given me some hope.
It's too bad that the "anti generator crowd" are so prevalent where you live. In my area in the US, such persons are much harder to find, as they often don't want to risk catching one of the myriad "anti" social diseases, such as "Pit Bull Slobber" or "Terminal Lead Poisoning".
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thanks for the information, fairly new to it. and totally makes sense to have one on hand for a crappy day. I was thinking of going the garage charger generator option for emergencies the info about the charging amps was very helpful cheers mate. its also effective at charging a power station. like the ecoflow delta 2 as it does it extremely fast and you can switch it off. (about 40min)
Thank you for the video! I just started looking for a generator to charge my batteries and was shocked by the low DC output ratings. So I came to you tube to see what the deal was and found your video. So to get the most charging power out of the generator the power has to be converted from DC to AC then back to DC?! Crazy!
Hey Justin. It would cut out the middle man by just adding a decent charger inside the generator
Thank you very much for this brilliant video you have really helped me with finding a more practical solution to charging my canal boat batteries more efficiently during our UK winter evenings.
Cheers Stuart, Im glad it provided some useful info 👍
I have solar, but on days where there is not enough sun to keep up, a portable generator is very useful. But I only use it to make up the shortfall, not to run all day.
Great information thank you👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, I have a 2.2kw petrol generator the instructions say i need to ground it, would i need to ground it charging a battery using a battery charger from the 240 outlet or if i was using an extension lead to power a device such as a domestic fridge or a microwave ? Thanks in advance.
Hey Richard. Most folk (me included) either dont know or dont care about the risks of not having a proper earth. Some folk install RVD device to compliment the van's RCD. Youll find that most generators have an earth terminal which you can connect to a metal stake belted into the ground.
📝🙏🏾 thank you very informative
The explainer I was looking for. Thank you
Hey Robert, glad you found some value in it. 👍
Thanks! I was planning on buying a 100ah lithium battery and using my generator to charge it. Are most battery chargers okay to charge 12v lithium batteries too?
Hey Steven, any lithium compatible charger. Lithium has a different charge profile than wet cell batteries
Hi,
I have a generator and a battery charger to charge my battery, however I wasn’t sure if I need to unplug everything from my battery first (Solar panels, Inverter etc).
Thanks
Smart chargers can play well together, particularly during bulk charging. They can conflict with each other when in maintenance modes but at that stage your batteries will be 80%+ charged anyway
Great video!! Nice to here facts from somebody who understands them. (Instead of hearsay). Well explained, makes perfect sense.
Someone tell me what in the hell is going on in Australia concerning generators? Sounds like a lot of generator hate going on down under?
Ha, it's mostly limited to social media ranting from behind the safety of a keyboard. They do get very vocal online but I'm yet to actually meet one of these righteous sheriffs in the wild. 🤣
@@Vagare But why do they hate generators? The noise, pollution ? Why?
@@lornaz1975 Mostly noise. Generators are 100% legal unless othwise signed. Screaming kids, music, wandering dogs, camping on top of each other are all ok tho
@@Vagarealso diesel heaters!!!!!????🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@robertwilson1827 yeah, they can howl a bit
Could you provide links to the stuff used in this video?
Its just gear I already own, anything in particular are you referring to or interested in
@@Vagare i was going to replicate your setup so all of it
@@Clip_It1 Kipor GS2000 & Honda EX500 gensets. Supercheap 20A smart charger. The chargers charging ouput is dependant each on combined generator output and charger output, and its best to pair them accordingly. Some chargers with higher output cant deal with generators that cant keep up ie if the charger requires say 750w@240v some chargers cant regulate a generator with a low output than that 750w. There would be waste and excess cost having a large generator only powering a small charger. A good example is a Noco 50A charger and a 1000w genset. Genset will have constant output of 900w and the Noco 50A requires 750w to charge at its 50A capacity. Noco are very efficient, so the smaller genset would be pefectly paired and 50A charging output is a good middle range
@@Vagare thank you so much!
Love my yamaha inverter generator... Go the club mate lol ...great vid ty :)
Hey Pete, if you'd witnessed the relentless mis-treatment our other Kipor put up with at the farm for years, youd be rushing out to but one ... couldnt kill it regardless how hard we tried. Ha. ;)
Exactly the information i was looking for. Would it also be possible to plug 2- 20 amp chargers into one generator and charge a 100 amp battery fully in 2 1/2 hours?
Hey Dan, not ideal to run 2 x 240v smart chargers on the same battery, the charge profiles would need to identical. I have to reset my Enerdrive 60A charger's output to 40A in order to use my 1kVA Honda genset. I think from memory the Enerdrive charger requires 1050W set to 60A and 700W set to 40A
Here's one for you. I've just installed my first VSR split relay. Before I charged bat for about half an hour every day straight off the 12v dc output and noticed with a very good battery the voltage would go up into the 16's and settle at 12.9. A good battery, or good enough may go up to 13.2 and settle at say 12.5, which is good enough right. Now, with the split charger wired in the voltage read across the top of the bat with the 12v dc hammering in has dropped to 13.3 which is exactly the regulation specification for the split charger.... but.... in reverse, I mean I'm charging the leasure battery that is wired to the starter but charging it just by connecting the genny 12v dc, so the current may be going through the VSR but not coming through it. So wtf's the magic of that? How can the split charger maintain the cross voltage at 13.3 when the dc is plugged straight on the bat?
Perfect video!
Thank you!
Hi Vagare! Thanks for the video, very explanatory :) Could you tell me which generator is it? I'm planning on powering a 40A smart battery charger to charge a 400Ah battery bank (4 x 100ah batteries). I was looking at buying the EU2200i honda inverter generator, but seems it only outputs 18A and that wouldn't be enough... I was thinking about this setup, so that when i'm off grid I use the generator the least possible (say, charge the battery bank every 4 days), so it's less of a hassle and annoyance for me and everybody else. I'm new to this thou... does what i'm saying make sense?
Hey Jose, the generator in the vid is a Kipor GS2000 (2kW). Youll need a bigger generator to run a charger at 40A. You could get around 40A per day into your batteries with a single 200w solar panel.
@@Vagare thank you! Was also wondering about solar a few days ago but found out it won't add up to my demands, thou a great solution for many
@@JosesBWK if batteries and solar arent enough to meet your power needs, a generator may be your only option
@@Vagare true
Can you explain why a noco pro 50 wouldn't work in a 2000w generator?
Honestly I don't know how it's possible but specs claim 750watts power consumption.
Good video mate. I'm a total noob regarding amps watts . I would like to run an electric trolling motor for 6 hours at top speed it uses 42 a and 500 w may you please give me some advice what to buy to do the job. Best regards Adam.
42A means 42A per hour. The 500w come from 42A x 12volts. 42A is a lot of energy per hour. Power required is just 42A x 6hrs. To run it for 6hrs x 42A with an wet battery is not viable, even with lithium it would equate to 300ah which with Enerdrive is a 40kg $3000 battery. Are you sure its 42A ???
@@Vagare yes on top speed but 21 ah at half speed would like to know how can I use the petrol generator on cloudy days.
@@collowood buy a decent 240v smart charger and run it from the generator. As mentioned by another commenter the Noco Genius Pro 50 is very expensive but should punch out a full 50A per hour on a 1kW. generator
@@Vagare thank you so much for your help.
Good information. Thank you.
How to set up auto shut off after fully charged
@@waad4054 smart charger will stop charging when the battery is fully charged and switch to a maintenance mode. It term of generator run time, it isnt difficult to estimate charging time based on battery SOC and the chargers output
I love the sarcasm/humor here. Making fun of the Generator-Nazis/Camping PC Crowd never gets old.
Awesome to know in an emergency
Thanks Jonathan 👍
Why can't you just hook up a regular battery charger that you plug into the wall into the generator and charge your battery
You certainly can, just ensure the charger input doesnt exceed the gensets output
Great content.. thanks mate!
Thanks mate, glad the vid was of value. Cheers 👍
Too long winded could not finish watching it take too long to get to the point
I guess you missed the point then 🤔
lol Elon @@campbelltown3065
Mr Inbetween
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Dude - I just need to see how it hooks up. Useless vid
Plug the charger in, the charger plug is the same shape as the generators socket. Hope that helps 👍
RIGHT: HE SAYS Don't use the 12v output, use the inverter output and a car battery charger because there is no power regulation - saved you 10 minutes.
Thanks for your quality critique Jamie, good to know the level I need to aim at.
Just get to the Damm point!!
Dont watch, problem solved. Any other tips let me know
@@Vagare how could I form an opinion on you inept long windedness without watching it dummy?
Need more tips??
Actually I enjoyed the explanation 🤗