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  • How is SVC CHAOS different on Playstation 2 PS2? Comparison Video 2005 PS2 to 2024 Release
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 474

  • @AcidGlow
    @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +42

    *Interesting to see these differences. Survival Mode and Infinite Continues would be nice to have in 2024* 😀
    Next Video ua-cam.com/video/6ibOlGhkbuw/v-deo.html

    • @AWMonopolyMan
      @AWMonopolyMan 2 місяці тому +3

      I could certainly see the latter happening sooner than the former to be fair.

    • @GamerGee
      @GamerGee 2 місяці тому +3

      They always go cheap. They take the Roms and release them. They don’t add cool stuff like an arranged soundtrack cd quality vocals etc etc

  • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
    @SeelkadoomandJokic00 2 місяці тому +109

    I like the slow moves. Gives it a lot of impact.

    • @jediknightgeo
      @jediknightgeo 2 місяці тому +4

      Agreed

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too

    • @J3ss4u
      @J3ss4u 2 місяці тому +7

      they sound so satisfying

    • @theedwardian
      @theedwardian 2 місяці тому +7

      It balances things out for the addition of Samurai Showdown characters

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 2 місяці тому

      It reminds me of Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in SF3, it has more definition of being felt

  • @Slayerthecrow
    @Slayerthecrow 2 місяці тому +89

    2:03
    Man, I need my glasses for this one.

  • @ewrooney
    @ewrooney 2 місяці тому +17

    Some additional things about the early console ports. The transparency effects can be disabled by changing the graphics setting from "normal" to "arcade". The OG XBOX ver. does have the Red Arremer and Athena transformations. The OG XBOX ver. have a different announcer from both the arcade and PS2 ver. of the game, he sound very similar to the NEO-GEO Battle Coliseum announcer. I also tested the supposed changes listed in the article from Tips and Tricks. Kyo can 1000% still juggle from qcf+K,K into Orochi Nagi, Geese can 1000% still do more than 4 loops of his infinite I'm guessing the tester at the time didn't have a better pad or stick because I tried it on an XBOX controller S and had trouble doing it at all but switched to a stick and got 5 loops pretty quick. That Earthquake special move looks the same to me and I didn't learn Zero's infinite well enough to test if its actually harder.

  • @PoderOtaku
    @PoderOtaku 2 місяці тому +33

    The same problem with Cacpom Fighting Collection I waited for years to get a fully complete edition of Darkstalkers 3 to steam with the PS1, PS2 and PSP extras, but they gave us arcade version with less characters no extra modes, it's sad but the PS1 version is the most complete, even nowadays with original character mode, extra option mode, ending gallery, system change mode, and all the characters in every single system change mode, the ps2 version had one extra secret character called Dee and the PSP has an alternative mode and extra stage, but neither PS2 or PSP got all the stuff the PS1 version had, it's just sad to know that the best version of a game released several times is in 1997.

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому +4

      It's weird how they didn't just added all that in one game at the end

    • @markg5480
      @markg5480 2 місяці тому +2

      Do you not realise that the reason console versions back in the day received more content was due to the port not being arcade perfect? Companies had to give you extra. Players like myself back then wanted arcade perfect ports over lots of extras.
      As for PS1 Darkstalkers, it's not "complete". It's missing frames, animations, and it has loading times. Why would Capcom put that into a pack?

    • @rukayuki6332
      @rukayuki6332 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@markg5480 I don't know about game engines but how the ps1 version rom that is over 20x bigger file than the CPS2 file could be worse and has less frames? I also don't know about pixel perfect and stuff but for me casual player, the ps1 version plays exactly like the arcade version in gameplay and animation.

    • @PoderOtaku
      @PoderOtaku 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rukayuki6332 That's exactly the point I consider most of PS1 ports of capcom 95% faithful to their arcade versions in gameplay and we casual players don't even notice that diference most of the time, the darkstalkers 3 had 3 arcade versions, vampire savior, savior 2 and hunter 2 and those 3 are missing 3 characters in each one the ps1 had those 3 versions in one game with all the missing characters, and for me is unbelievable that capcom would put the missing characters versions instead a more complete version, also the loading argument doesn't work since that apply only in PS1 hardware, even the PS1 emulation has no loading screen time, it just appear and disappear and doesn't last 30 seconds like it was on PS1 hardware. Most fans are casual and not competitive pro players, so the basic is to give all the extras we wanted.

    • @-castradomis-1773
      @-castradomis-1773 2 місяці тому +1

      PS2 version is probably overall the best version. It has hidden modes/options, huge art gallery, Dee, the arcade versions of every game in the series, plus you can unlock the complete roster in Vampire Saviour/Hunter-effectively turning them into Darkstalkers 3.

  • @Original_Katros
    @Original_Katros 2 місяці тому +226

    I'd really like to know what is it with PS2 ports of SNK games having colour edit and subsequent modern versions losing it. That and the fact the original port had survival mode and the new one doesn't baffles me... I don't like it when a fighting game only has arcade and training and calls it a day, I hardly play online.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +36

      sometimes changes are good and other things aren't. I think cause the 2024 release focused on the arcade version which did not have survival so it went unnoticed.

    • @Original_Katros
      @Original_Katros 2 місяці тому +34

      @@AcidGlow Yeah that's one thing that's gotten me tired of arcade ports, just having versions that lack content of the console releases feels cheap. It's why I worry that if we do get a Capcom Vs SNK collection that Capcom will just choose the arcade versions and we won't get half the content.

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 2 місяці тому +28

      Color edit in 2024 would be so much more fun nowadays too because you could show off your creations

    • @AWMonopolyMan
      @AWMonopolyMan 2 місяці тому +6

      @@AcidGlowArcade and AES (which is why we got AES’s training mode specifically).

    • @AWMonopolyMan
      @AWMonopolyMan 2 місяці тому +6

      ⁠@@Original_Katros”Lacking content of the console releases”, but this version is based partially on a console release, AES (and also PS2/Xbox to a lesser extent with its hidden character selection method).

  • @mgbenz
    @mgbenz 2 місяці тому +102

    The Steam version is a direct port of the arcade game running on AES mode (a.k.a console mode). That's why it only has 4 continues and has barebones practice options.

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan 2 місяці тому +29

      So we got a worse version?

    • @HypnoSwag
      @HypnoSwag 2 місяці тому +42

      ​@@RigbyIsTheMan Most re-released arcade games are just emulation nowadays.
      The new MVC Collection will be arcade version emulation as well.

    • @Monhamd1000
      @Monhamd1000 2 місяці тому +1

      Why not the PS2/Xbox versions?

    • @PedroAndrade25
      @PedroAndrade25 2 місяці тому +25

      @@Monhamd1000 Because they're lazy. It's easier to just emulate the arcade version than port from consoles.

    • @NewGabeOrder
      @NewGabeOrder 2 місяці тому +11

      Even confusing is that there's no visible credit counter. If they are going to do it right, make sure unlimited continues are a thing before removing the credit counter. That's how it worked in Pulstar's and Blazing Star's AES modes.

  • @HiTechLoLife
    @HiTechLoLife 2 місяці тому +72

    I still have to wonder why it was Xbox exclusive in the US, considering Europe did get a PS2 version.

    • @Rei_Tatekei
      @Rei_Tatekei 2 місяці тому +38

      Sony of America was anti 2D back then so games had to sell in bundles like KOF 02/03 or not at all

    • @000mjd
      @000mjd 2 місяці тому +20

      Sony America has a restriction to only sprite based games that werent part of a collection so was imposible to release the game in USA
      Sony Europe never had these problems so publishing the game there never was an issue

    • @felixcruz5556
      @felixcruz5556 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@Rei_Tatekei i hated scea for that

    • @hammond8692
      @hammond8692 2 місяці тому +24

      @@felixcruz5556 I hate that Sony's policy slightly ruined the 32 bit era, it should have been a time full of amazing 2D sprite work that probably would have still held up today, as well as 3D games, but because of that policy we have a vast amount of games with very poor 3D graphics from that era instead that, while impressive at the time, look absolutely awful now, some of them still look decent and a lot still play well, but we could have had so many more fantastic 2D games too, I feel like they forced the home console market in to almost exclusively 3D games far too soon

    • @felixcruz5556
      @felixcruz5556 2 місяці тому +5

      @@hammond8692 my point exactly.

  • @Zachary_Sweis
    @Zachary_Sweis 2 місяці тому +73

    Yeah I am kinda sick of the arcade versions of games being re-released without the console content.

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому +10

      Same here.. they was too lazy to add stuff

    • @Ifalvarado
      @Ifalvarado 2 місяці тому +5

      Even the data files for the steam version is the exact neo geo rom content from the chipsets

    • @TrueBlueMajikDewd
      @TrueBlueMajikDewd 2 місяці тому +5

      Yeah. Last great fighting game port was Street Fighter 3 Online Edition.

    • @crimsonframe47
      @crimsonframe47 2 місяці тому

      ​@@TrueBlueMajikDewdyou should check Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R. It's the last decent fg port for modern system with a tons of contents and improvements.
      Also MvC Collection is on the way, I hope Capcom doing it well for this.

    • @XCharizard100
      @XCharizard100 2 місяці тому

      Can you give me more examples?
      Genuine questions

  • @PikangsFutaba
    @PikangsFutaba 2 місяці тому +40

    Yeah, is very stupid that the current re-release has the game on NeoGeo AES mode (and AES version of the game has 4 credits... ONE that must be used to start to play, the other 3 are for continues... the worst part of this is the fact that the credits remaining are hidden compared to the original NeoGeo AES release.
    Edit: There's a SECOND unique difference between OG Xbox vs all other releases... a different system voice (probably the one from NeoGeo Battle Coliseum).

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 2 місяці тому +66

    I hate to say it but the Steam release is pretty inferior.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +9

      all it's really missing is survival mode and color edit. 2024 has online while the older versions cannot be played online (as easy). I'm just glad it's available to a wider audience now.

    • @mbz6272
      @mbz6272 2 місяці тому

      Agreed

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 2 місяці тому

      @@AcidGlow well Xbox version got Xbox Live for that and with Insignia being a thing nowadays, people can play the console ports online with Xemu emulator with insignia installed.

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder 2 місяці тому +12

    0:43 That's in the PAL regions. The Japanese PS2 port displays "2003" instead, as the arcade, Neo Geo and Japanese PS2 versions all came out on the same year.

  • @Komusho
    @Komusho 2 місяці тому +98

    Steam version in a nutshell: A f*cking ROM in a f*cking emulator

    • @prodbyhostile
      @prodbyhostile 2 місяці тому +23

      Except the emulator version has unlimited continues

    • @usernameRika
      @usernameRika 2 місяці тому +8

      ​@@prodbyhostileplayed in AES you only get 4 continues.

    • @milosmisic89
      @milosmisic89 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@prodbyhostileneogeo games have 2 modes in every emulator. Mvs and aes. Mvs is arcade aes is home conversion. I prefer aes because you got proper menus, settings and extra modes. Downside is only 4 continues

    • @yoman8027
      @yoman8027 2 місяці тому

      @@usernameRika But you get to save the game. Whenever you load your game, your continues revert to four, so you have unlimited continues, in practice.

    • @sanjijito185
      @sanjijito185 2 місяці тому

      Thats pretty much what code mystics develops, an all round emulator, they dont even touch the game ROM

  • @sullysuvann1380
    @sullysuvann1380 2 місяці тому +25

    Glad I still got mine original copy xbox

    • @docnom
      @docnom 2 місяці тому +1

      You got some $$ there

    • @4501Kevin
      @4501Kevin 2 місяці тому

      You lucky my bro take care that gem

  • @FelipeVerdugodaSilva
    @FelipeVerdugodaSilva 2 місяці тому +13

    Damn dude, you really love this game, lol. I'm a SNK maniac but even though I like it, the flaws made me drop it really quick hahaha

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +8

      I like this and art of fighting 2. NGBC is alright but not a fan of the roster or game speed

    • @doomedspacemarine5076
      @doomedspacemarine5076 2 місяці тому

      What is a good snk game to get for steam, KOF 13?

    • @FelipeVerdugodaSilva
      @FelipeVerdugodaSilva 2 місяці тому +2

      @@doomedspacemarine5076 That is a good start, yeah. Or KOFs 98 / 2002 UM

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder 2 місяці тому +6

    2:55 Like the PS4 port of Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves, I believe you must press the Confirm button to continue or the Cancel button to subtract one second from the continue countdown.

  • @aleksiremesart
    @aleksiremesart 2 місяці тому +5

    Used to play the PS2 version a ton back in the day, interesting to see it had surprisingly many differences from the arcade original. The 2024 port seems to also have noticeable input lag, at least on the Switch. Don’t have a real way to test it and not sure if Steam or PS4 have the same issue, but it feels a lot less responsive than before.

  • @MakotoTsuguri
    @MakotoTsuguri 2 місяці тому +40

    Yet another example of superior home console releases being tossed aside for arcade versions. This is why I skipped on Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection. I still support this game regardless, but I ain't gonna be blind to the facts. I just hope that if Neo Geo Battle Colosseum get a new port, they'll choose the HD remastered games from 360/PS3.

    • @Zontar82
      @Zontar82 2 місяці тому +7

      Same here those 3d stages areawesome

    • @TheTrueBro
      @TheTrueBro 2 місяці тому +4

      Nah the Atomiswave versions had way better backgrounds. Those generic 3D things they added are meh.
      Only thing they would have to fix are the long loading times from the arcade.

    • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz
      @Jahn_Pah_Jonz 2 місяці тому +2

      There was other versions of battle colosseum besides the arcade and ps2 versions?

    • @MangorushZ
      @MangorushZ 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheTrueBroWrong.

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому

      I fully understand that 🙏🏾

  • @EmptyKingdoms
    @EmptyKingdoms 2 місяці тому +3

    The move list in PS2 seemed so much better, the art gallery was rocking, but the 2024 art gallery playing Ryu's anime hadouken theme was awesome.

  • @Juan_Pablo_81
    @Juan_Pablo_81 2 місяці тому +31

    It seems to me that the Steam version is actually the Arcade version. The lack of extra content, absent Survival mode, the Gallery is outside of the actual game and Limited credits just like the AES Neogeo settings ...
    Steam = Arcade (What a rip off)

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes it is 🤷🏾‍♀️ I wonder why they just didn't do the PS2 version

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jeremyhall2727 probably lost/deleted the source code, typical of japanese game companies as usual 🤦‍♂

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому

      @@MrDmoney156 I don't believe it.. they always say that.

    • @ShadowSumac
      @ShadowSumac 2 місяці тому

      Eh, I take it. Beter for it to be available as this, rather than being locked on Arcades and old consoles.

  • @lightwarrior7091
    @lightwarrior7091 2 місяці тому +34

    They sold us A ROM WITH NO CHANGES. I'm gonna stay with fightcade fuck this

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому +7

      😂 they did the most laziest thing they could.

    • @KimSamaVideos
      @KimSamaVideos 2 місяці тому +3

      We're forced to play the AES version which is why we only have 4 credits

    • @4501Kevin
      @4501Kevin 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@KimSamaVideosand the game is already hard to pass with 3 coins for me thats imposible

    • @sammyramirez6869
      @sammyramirez6869 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@jeremyhall2727its not lazy only thing missing is survival and color edit they more than likely dont have the source code for the ps2/xbox port

    • @jeremyhall2727
      @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому

      @@sammyramirez6869 No it's lazy.. they could ported the PS2 version. Emulate it like how they didn't for this version. Yeah 🤣 don't have it huh.

  • @ElSandwich777
    @ElSandwich777 2 місяці тому +8

    If this was 2002 people would be more upset that the port isn’t Arcade faithful.
    Swings and roundabouts.

    • @Xerzene
      @Xerzene 2 місяці тому

      Mmmhh idk maybe cuz this lacks content from the console release? It also looks worse somehow

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +2

      To me it's fine. I wanted online features, if they had no online then I would not have bought it. I would really want a balance patch though.

    • @ElSandwich777
      @ElSandwich777 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Xerzene I just think it’s pretty funny is all. I remember when this game first released in 2003, and the biggest issue at the time was that it was not an arcade perfect adaption. It was something that plagued so many console releases at that time.
      It’s far less of an issue today because arcades have been on the wane since the onset of certain social events.
      I bought the game brand new for Xbox anyway because I didn’t care about the Arcade accuracy, I just thought it was cool that there were SNK and Capcom characters fighting each other.
      I should note that while I am a little sad that the Color Edit and Survival Mode were not included, I’m at least grateful they cared enough about the game to give us additional options to preserve it.

    • @granixo
      @granixo 2 місяці тому +1

      That was usally a complain regarding performance and graphics, but ever since the 3DO and SSF2T, arcade-perfect ports of 2D games have been possible.
      Besides, the PS2 port does include the option to make the graphics look just like the Arcade version.

  • @GamerGee
    @GamerGee 2 місяці тому +9

    5:10 ps2 uses studio vocals
    5:21 2024 uses the neo geo arcade cart samples.
    The ps2 port is better. Cd quality vocals. 44.1khz not 32k

  • @danchavyn
    @danchavyn 2 місяці тому +8

    The movelist is move visible on PS2 version.

  • @znmrtns
    @znmrtns 2 місяці тому +3

    I really dig the 2024 version. I doubt they would do it, but I would a vs. cpu option on two player mode and a survival mode

  • @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
    @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo 2 місяці тому +15

    1:12 That sounds like Geese Howard's theme
    And Geese is in the game! That theme should have played during his ending

    • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz
      @Jahn_Pah_Jonz 2 місяці тому +2

      Meh. I got tired of his theme; they put it in almost game. I like his theme from Fatal Fury 3 more.

  • @brunoramos85rj
    @brunoramos85rj 2 місяці тому +5

    Conratulation man, great video. You have too much patience to do that.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +2

      Well I've done the same thing with alot of games/characters I'm interested in. Just to look at more things about the game 🙂

  • @iorijericho
    @iorijericho 2 місяці тому +3

    I hate when the re-releases just are EMU+ROM based on the NeoGeo AES version. Why they don't release the console versions?
    Remember KOF NESTS for PS2. For those collection they portayed the Dreamcast versions, not only the NeoGeo AES ones.

  • @Essu_
    @Essu_ 2 місяці тому +4

    PS2 version is an actual port, Steam version is an arcade rom running in an emulator.

  • @truecauseofchaos
    @truecauseofchaos 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! I was around as they were ripping the arcade ROM; playing WIPs and showly watching the emulators play more and more.
    I did buy it in Japanese on PS2 also. Really surprised to see a 2024 re-release to be fair; would have loved an updated KOF Orochi collection instead!

  • @Drumtech08
    @Drumtech08 2 місяці тому +5

    That was the Street Fighter V animated series theme on the gallery section. Nice touch

  • @nathanbalazonbautista418
    @nathanbalazonbautista418 2 місяці тому +1

    There is also different in the Western Xbox release. The announcer was replaced with John Hulaton, same announcer from KOF '94 Re-Bout and Neogeo Battle Coliseum in that version, but only in some regions but Japan.

  • @gzsfrk
    @gzsfrk 2 місяці тому +1

    Life bar is different. PS2/Xbox version is semi-transparent. Arcade version is simulated transparency using dithering.

  • @SamwiseTheNotSoBrave
    @SamwiseTheNotSoBrave 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for putting this together! I thought I was crazy when I hit the credit wall in arcade mode. I'm hoping they do patch in infinite continues. Heck, they can keep the 4-credit option if people wanna do challenge runs.
    Otherwise, I'm loving the release.

  • @chrisb9179
    @chrisb9179 2 місяці тому +1

    Last night I beat Mr Karate using Hugo. This morning my palms are still sweating.

  • @TwinbeeMint
    @TwinbeeMint 2 місяці тому +5

    The PS2 is the easy one to hear Zero (Z) voices

  • @probablyjinxed
    @probablyjinxed 2 місяці тому +1

    ugh i’ll miss the athena/red arremer transformations dude, that change upset me the most tbh 😭

  • @CarlosAsRayMax
    @CarlosAsRayMax 2 місяці тому

    Fun Facts, For the Japanese Version on PS2, it shows “Press Start Button” on the intro, and the SVC Chaos logo looks more clean and not pixelated.

  • @ricardo8252
    @ricardo8252 2 місяці тому +4

    ¿Why the uppercut input is so difficult to perform on Demitri and Dan? its a bug or it was a fail on the arcade. I got the Switch version.

    • @4501Kevin
      @4501Kevin 2 місяці тому

      I thought was the only person had difficult to put it, bro im telling you i put the game in my phone on GGPO and the input,combos y uppercut are very smooth than the switch version and i sense a little delay in some attacks

    • @VaiFiz
      @VaiFiz 2 місяці тому +1

      Also Ryu's...

    • @jasper9291
      @jasper9291 2 місяці тому +1

      @@4501Kevin Emulation is illegal

    • @4501Kevin
      @4501Kevin 2 місяці тому

      @@jasper9291 i know, but i buyed the game i think i have the ríght to play it in another hardware or return to the arcade machines and play the same game

  • @ergastolo4281
    @ergastolo4281 2 місяці тому +2

    I think that instead of the AES version Code Mystic should've used the MVS one...
    Just input the credits with a button and you're ready to go, or just set the game to free play mode

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +2

      They are considering to fix it since it's a small thing to recode unlike a balance patch (which they were not allowed to do upon release) but I do hope it gets balanced

  • @ShadowJerry1998
    @ShadowJerry1998 2 місяці тому +12

    7:12 Can someone please translate the dialogue between Athena and Red Arremer? 🤔

    • @TsutomuXD
      @TsutomuXD 2 місяці тому +17

      She says: "Re... Red Arremer? I... I won't lose, no matter who is my rival." and he just do some grunts

    • @0DlNN
      @0DlNN 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@TsutomuXDvery nice, even she is worried about him. I would like this conversation in the steam version...

  • @lordvega3112
    @lordvega3112 2 місяці тому +4

    Steam version looks much more pixelated than the PS2.

  • @DiegoSilva-lc8pv
    @DiegoSilva-lc8pv 2 місяці тому +5

    OMG PS2 version is better than the 2024 version

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      depends on what you are looking for. survival mode is extra content but I dont like the sprite changes. I'd rather have 2024 online modes than play alone on PS2.

  • @yauyuso
    @yauyuso 2 місяці тому

    I remember in general the home ports of the SNK games like King Of FIghters series would have more transparent projectiles.
    I usually thought it was because the consoles have strong power than the SNK gameboard. I think it was 16bit when majority are 32 bit like the CPS2 Capcom uses.

  • @cireza_
    @cireza_ 2 місяці тому

    Survival would have clearly been great in this re-release, Color Edit as well it was very fun on Xbox, especially at such a high price. PS2/Xbox were ports, not emulated, this is why they could adjust many things, including transparency.

  • @AmestrisSquare
    @AmestrisSquare 2 місяці тому +1

    The Xbox version had color edit
    Which would've been hella neat to bring back considering the game only has 2 colors per character
    It would also give the game an argument over fightcade
    Wish SNK saw more value on their old console ports instead of only looking on how to repackage arcade ports
    Still glad this game is back
    Lets hope XI comes back, and the Ps2 version

  • @NewGabeOrder
    @NewGabeOrder 2 місяці тому +1

    6:36 The bad thing is that Replays cannot be saved in VS mode. Looks like the VCR and recordable video tapes will have to be used to simulate such feature.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      I went through the xbox manual and i think the replays were only for online matches

  • @kreana02
    @kreana02 2 місяці тому

    I checked the files of the 2024 version. This is an arcade rom being emulated. The rom files are there. Maybe running in console mode?

  • @mlgxxx808
    @mlgxxx808 2 місяці тому +6

    Forgot about that sec choas was on original Xbox

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +6

      some color edits were crazy 😆

  • @NMRH258
    @NMRH258 2 місяці тому +1

    0:56 Incorrect: the Steam port is the home Neo Geo AES version, not the arcade MVS version.

  • @antonio_carvalho
    @antonio_carvalho 2 місяці тому +1

    Love these in-depth comparisons

  • @Ironmonk036
    @Ironmonk036 2 місяці тому

    Does this game have a Spectator Mode or Theatre Mode to watch replays or friends matches?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      @Ironmonk036 spectator yes. Replays are there but I'm not sure if it's broken. Some online matches don't save

    • @Ironmonk036
      @Ironmonk036 2 місяці тому

      Apppreciate it. Now I may buy the game.

  • @captaincz5763
    @captaincz5763 2 місяці тому +1

    I think you don't even get to fight Athena/Red Arremer at the end and therefore don't get to meet "God". This port is just straight up missing content, and that includes the untranslated text between Athena and Red Arremer and their finishing transformations. I also believe you can't even get the characters' endings, at least I didn't when I beat single player as Terry.
    SNK seriously needs to get work on fixing this port's issues. Hope they can add unlimited continues bc this game hard af too

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu 2 місяці тому

      Wait, don't you need specific requirements to meet these two?

  • @dnmstarsi
    @dnmstarsi 2 місяці тому

    While it was cool to see this return with some new features, they really should've focused on either porting the console versions or taking those features and putting it with the 2024 version.

  • @samuraispiritsx
    @samuraispiritsx 2 місяці тому

    only issue with xbox and ps2 versions is they don't use the correct resolution 240p and very interesting that they redid the special moves with transparency for consoles looks sharp

  • @vdfritzz
    @vdfritzz 2 місяці тому +2

    it's interesting how the ps2 version has some upscaling happening on the character sprites but only on the outline
    that shitty lazy bilinear filter is unforgivable, they are selling it on computers in 2024, they should have done a bunch of different upscaling shaders cmon, it's not hard

  • @aaqibrawat3863
    @aaqibrawat3863 2 місяці тому +6

    Damn all this attention might make code mystics and snk patch the bloody game properly

    • @Gamersgoinblind
      @Gamersgoinblind 2 місяці тому +3

      What's funny is that not patching the games are what people wanted for all their other releases like Mark of the Wolves and the KoF games, but SvC is probably the one exception.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +3

      If Code Mystics were to be granted permission to alter the game for a balance patch.... that would be so damn good. But they would have to take alot of info and suggestions on what to balance.

  • @gamma_dc8289
    @gamma_dc8289 2 місяці тому

    This game is at my local arcade, and while I love the xbox version, I appreciate the re-release removing the changes the xbox one had, im used to the arcade version lol. It sucks the extra modes and color swapping is gone though.

  • @KevinElliott-cn1nw
    @KevinElliott-cn1nw 2 місяці тому +3

    Will stick to the ps2 version

  • @MaycolGamer026
    @MaycolGamer026 2 місяці тому +22

    SvC Chaos is better in PS2 and Xbox.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +10

      Depends what you like in it. I like the stage select and survival mode but not the visual changes to sprites

    • @The_WIll_OF_D99
      @The_WIll_OF_D99 2 місяці тому +2

      PS2 always had it shitty when it came to sprites ​@@AcidGlow

  • @KimSamaVideos
    @KimSamaVideos 2 місяці тому +1

    You forgot to mention the HUD. The PS2 and Xbox versions has transparency which the Neo Geo hardware could not do

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      That's why I left a message for anyone to add anything I missed out on. 🙂 thanks

  • @zinesis
    @zinesis 2 місяці тому

    What about the cpu difficulty did it have any changes from each version?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      seems the same. they were not allowed to modify the game data in any way. sometimes CPU does 1 frame input reading on you and counters with an instant super. Just like other fighting games etc.

    • @zinesis
      @zinesis 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AcidGlow so its still bad that sucks, they should atleast add a better ost or characters like Morigan for Capcom and Leona with Riot Blood for Snk.

  • @jvibexd
    @jvibexd 2 місяці тому

    Basically the Steam one is the arcade version (with Rom and Emulation) with an new UI in the menu screen.

  • @GojiGuy
    @GojiGuy 2 місяці тому

    Great video, but I do wish the games weren't "stretched" to 16:9...

  • @mariomario7379
    @mariomario7379 2 місяці тому

    I like the arcade effects more. I just miss color edit mode. The port wasn’t terrible.

  • @patriciacarreon2192
    @patriciacarreon2192 2 місяці тому +4

    I Just suscribed,
    GREETINGS from MÉXICO

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +1

      thanks for watching 🙂

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender 2 місяці тому

    What is the input lag on the ps2, ps4 and GOG versions?

  • @DeividLanderos
    @DeividLanderos 2 місяці тому +3

    arcade version???

  • @Shahars71
    @Shahars71 2 місяці тому

    What a shame that it's just a barebones aes version port. I hope Code Mystics updates the game with survival and color edit modes to put it more in line with their other snk rereleases content-wise.

  • @raulseda1230
    @raulseda1230 2 місяці тому

    in your opinion do you think that the steam version is worse or not?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +5

      It's really just missing the color edit, survival mode and stage select from the other versions.
      I don't like the sped up animations or the sprite changes.
      Red Arremer and Athena have to be unlock through survival mode (36 wins) on xbox and ps2 also.
      Steam version is fine for what it offers. achievements, leaderboards, online. But some extra features from the older versions would be nice.

  • @PsychoticLuke
    @PsychoticLuke 2 місяці тому

    Sooo... the 2024 has NO palette/name edit, NO survival, NO Athena/Red Arremer tranformations, NO stage select for practice mode, ONLY 3 continues, and crappier more hard-to-read movelist... How after nearly 20 years of tech evolution, a company can fail so utterly fucking miserably in reviving a games most basic functions is beyond me..but I guess only Crapcom knows. How hard can it be to do your job proper? They could have fixed all this and added an RPG mode like SFA3 on GBA if I am not mistaken, and boss damage for players playing as bosses. Thanks for the video. I am sticking to my superior Xbox version of the game.

  • @shawty10ize
    @shawty10ize 2 місяці тому

    I was playing the PS2 and arcade versions and comparing just the other day. PS2 has a lot more transparency effects in the projectiles and Overall looks a tad better. But some of the complex moves are even harder to pull off somehow. Chun Lis exceed move is damn near impossible on PS2. I can barely ever land it. I do love the ps2 survival mode though.

  • @Wolfedge75
    @Wolfedge75 2 місяці тому

    Between this and the KOF 2000~2003, I just think that (SNK) Playmore reworked their NeoGeo games from the ground up in the PS2 ports.
    Because I remember '01~'03 looking way different from their arcade counterparts.
    (But yeah, the limited continues are just _egregious_ given previous AES ports from CM don't have this BS)

  • @MythrilPaws
    @MythrilPaws 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember playing chun li like god tier on the arcade machines, but on the PS4 using de controller feels kinda clumsy

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +1

      maybe cause arcade has square gates to where to can feel the diagonal points easier but controller pads n joysticks (more rounded gate) can be a bit harder to get inputs correctly

  • @rafaeltelez6178
    @rafaeltelez6178 2 місяці тому +5

    ps2 looks better than steam

  • @SickleSlash
    @SickleSlash Місяць тому

    Don't know if anyone pointed this out yet or not but the Xbox version had a different announcer and the recent version fixes the Genjuro typo. Anyone know how to get this port running on Linux/wine?

  • @AdamJDM1
    @AdamJDM1 2 місяці тому +2

    I bought the Pixnlove limited edition release of this that comes in a Neo-Geo snap box and some cool extras like a aluminum plate poster... They only made 100 copies of it, so glad I got my pre-order in before it was sold out. However, I don't think I'll actually open the game up ever. I can see this is kind of crap release. The PS2/Xbox versions had some cool extras and improvements, which this version doesn't have. If I want just an emulated version of the arcade release, why would I pay for this? I'd rather just play it physically on my actual Neo-Geo, which I think I'll do now. What a weak release.

  • @Gamesackfan-bn6eg
    @Gamesackfan-bn6eg Місяць тому

    Street Fighter 2 V music, hell yeah.

  • @ChiefMedicPururu
    @ChiefMedicPururu 2 місяці тому

    So PS2 has a glitch if you play Athena and Red Arremer in English, correct?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      that's what appears to happen. Or maybe they didnt translate it so they left that as is. It reminds me of when some games in japan had extra content that was not in the english versions. Like Marvel Super Heroes vs SF endings had extra content in Japan. Or super SFII X had extra akuma footage that Super Turbo didnt have.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu 2 місяці тому

      @@AcidGlow I wonder if there's a fix for it on emulators.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      @ChiefMedicPururu patches like that are possible but I have not found anyone willing to translate it and create a file to patch

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu 2 місяці тому

      @@AcidGlow Maybe we should do it ourselves. If fans can fix issues with Mega Man X7 thanks to a patch, why not something way smaller but still annoying to fix?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      @ChiefMedicPururu just a matter of someone caring to do it 🙃

  • @flinten7485
    @flinten7485 2 місяці тому

    Main draw for me is the online play! And the 2024 version has far superior options and a much better online experience than the Xbox version I played online back when it was new. Also, it's official and legal as apposed to fightcade which has questionable legal concerns.

  • @Kakeen
    @Kakeen 2 місяці тому +1

    The PS4, switch, and steam versions definitely need a color edit mode, this game only has 2 colors, default and alternate. And quite frankly some of the alternates suck.
    One of the negatives I can say about xmvsf, MSHvsSF, and MvC1. Let us have options.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +2

      some secondary colors are not good. color edit mode would be fun

    • @Kakeen
      @Kakeen 2 місяці тому +2

      @@AcidGlow Yes definitely, while some people really shouldn't be making their own colors (looking at you SFxT with your super bright neon color shades), there are some great alternate colors you can make.

  • @Blas4ublasphemy
    @Blas4ublasphemy 2 місяці тому +9

    Cool info, I really think this game is cool to have but forgot just how broken and clunky it is. Playing SFA3 and KOF 13 directly afterwards like a mouthwash lol.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      lol 😆 well all games have their fun moments. I didn't play much of KOF

    • @Blas4ublasphemy
      @Blas4ublasphemy 2 місяці тому

      @@AcidGlow KOF 98 is still so good, maybe my favorite game ever...

    • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz
      @Jahn_Pah_Jonz 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Blas4ublasphemyKoF 98 is my favorite fighting game and of one my 4th favorite game ever.
      However, I actually like this game more than Capcom vs SNK 2 and play it every now and then. I wish more fighting games, particularly the crossover ones, focused on the story and fanservice.

    • @markg5480
      @markg5480 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I mean why focus on controls, streamlined mechanics, and animation fluidity when you can focus on what Mai wears at the weekend and what Kyo's dating preference is 🤣 SNK fans in a nutshell

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      @@Jahn_Pah_Jonz the story was mostly flushed out in the manga. which is really hard to get a hold of. i never read it

  • @omegazero7174
    @omegazero7174 2 місяці тому

    8:00 What is the name of this song?

  • @ChiefMedicPururu
    @ChiefMedicPururu 16 днів тому

    The patch is now live on PS4 and Switch!

  • @AlphaProto
    @AlphaProto 2 місяці тому +2

    I'll stick with the PS2 version I imported.

  • @silent.revolution2168
    @silent.revolution2168 2 місяці тому

    PS2 version had double resolution portraits like KOF2002?

    • @hugoc.robles156
      @hugoc.robles156 2 місяці тому

      no 🥺, it only has a small better graphic filter

  • @Ifalvarado
    @Ifalvarado 2 місяці тому +2

    its like the Ps2 is sort of rebuilt/remastered....to some degree

  • @geebeepman
    @geebeepman 2 місяці тому

    so smooth image filter just makes the character blurry.

  • @chengfu7063
    @chengfu7063 2 місяці тому +1

    The difference between is that it's playable on the PS2 Japanese and the Xbox original where is this is following the arcade but infinite supers as shown make the possibilities infinite for victory very good but at this point a boss syndrome isn't lol and both crossovers have a syndrome although by completing the Boss Rush on the CVS version it does unlock everything Middle East here on the SVC version you have wind boy Goentiz 🌪️🌪️🌪️ his ultimate defense is the best projectile in the game

  • @clonedbraixen
    @clonedbraixen 2 місяці тому

    We need to talk to Code Mystics

  • @jeremyhall2727
    @jeremyhall2727 2 місяці тому

    5:50 i like the PS2 normal filter the best out the four 🤔 the smoothing filter on the steam version is all wrong. They turned the smoothing up too much

  • @johnlund3088
    @johnlund3088 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks alot for this 👏👌👍😊 super informative ❤

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      thank you for watching 🙂

  • @TCI_YT
    @TCI_YT 2 місяці тому

    Transparent life bars and the better resolution on the intro, portraits and endings are also not present on steam 😔

  • @LuminescentShine
    @LuminescentShine 2 місяці тому

    I am mixed. I like the modes, tweaks, and some bonus dialogue on the console versions. But the fire ball attacks look better and worse on the consoles. Plus the console port has some input lag if I play it on my tv. I own the ps2 version, ordered the switch version, and bought the GOG version. I might pick up the xbox version and sell my ps2 verison in the future.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      I couldnt get a hold of the xbox version to test out how it reads input delay and get a clear view of every menu. I had to settle for PS2

  • @LuminescentShine
    @LuminescentShine 2 місяці тому

    The content doesnt bug but, what does bug me is that we didn't get the minor tweaks from the xbox version. Otherwise this port runs great

  • @windschlussel
    @windschlussel 2 місяці тому

    How about Mai's Jiggle Physics? It's still being censored too meanwhile the hack rom version is not?

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому

      I showed a video showing her jiggles on steam.

  • @xkenzox2431
    @xkenzox2431 2 місяці тому

    So basically steam version, is a ROM for M.A.M.E in console mode, with a gallery extra to $20, so disapointed, i still prefer ps2 version. Ty for sharing comparative.

    • @AcidGlow
      @AcidGlow  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes it is. I try the PS2 version and it's fine but I prefer having Online than no online modes. I hope they patch these features into the game in the future. Color edit would be fun. I saw some crazy colors on xbox version. some were just silly but fun to see 😎

  • @rogeneyusi1943
    @rogeneyusi1943 2 місяці тому +1

    There's one thing I'd like to see that was left out. In the Steam forums, there's a discussion that the difficult charge moves were fixed in the PS2 and XBOX versions. I don't have either so I can't tell but I'd like to know how fixed they were and if it's possible in the console version to charge from Down-back to either Flash Kick/Head Stomp or Sonic Boom/Psycho Crusher easily just like in Street Fighter.

    • @Jahn_Pah_Jonz
      @Jahn_Pah_Jonz 2 місяці тому

      It's dumb because SNK games had diagonal charging in the first place. You can get used to the different style of charging however.

    • @znmrtns
      @znmrtns 2 місяці тому

      I play the PS2 version a lot, and it felt pretty much easier do charge moves on the 2024 version. There is still some weird fails when I do the vertical moves, but it felt better than before.

  • @HoroJoga
    @HoroJoga 2 місяці тому

    You guys talk like the steam version isn't just the neo geo arcade rom running on a hidden emulator. The PS2 was an actual port, which made more sense at the time.

  • @chriskaufman5214
    @chriskaufman5214 2 місяці тому

    How much more do they need? Capacom vs snk 3. Do it. Do it now