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  • Dragon's Breath Shotgun Rounds
    Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I read an article I wrote about an amazing pronghorn hunt I went on in Colorado.
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    Who is Ron Spomer
    For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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  • @dlg15
    @dlg15 Рік тому +197

    They cost about 25 bucks for four rounds, pretty fun to shoot lol

    • @aaaaghdoor6056
      @aaaaghdoor6056 Рік тому +3

      I feel like they could use some steel wool tp make a cheaper and slightly less bright round

    • @thisaccountisntreal107
      @thisaccountisntreal107 Рік тому +8

      @@aaaaghdoor6056 magnesium is cheaper than steel and easier to burn

    • @tombeast1786
      @tombeast1786 Рік тому +1

      Yeah. It was fun to try but not economically fun.

    • @theender422
      @theender422 Рік тому +1

      Oh that's what they cost? Never knew. Yeah definitely not something to stock up on but as a yearly treat with part of the annual bonus that would be worth it for a few packages.

    • @davy1458
      @davy1458 7 місяців тому

      In my opinion I think tracer slugs would be the most fun.

  • @gimpyRW
    @gimpyRW Рік тому +79

    I can not find any laws in Wisconsin banning dragons breath outright. They do, however, have laws against having them in your possession while hunting or using them for hunting.

    • @Brandenuzis
      @Brandenuzis Рік тому +3

      I’m in New York and I can buy them all day. Even tho the website literally tells me it’s not legal here

    • @Catanator-ic2vo
      @Catanator-ic2vo Рік тому +1

      I'm in wisconsin as well, thanks for the home intrusion tips

    • @dirtyaznstyle4156
      @dirtyaznstyle4156 Рік тому +2

      Well that’s common sense it’s not for hunting 😂

    • @testsubject5990
      @testsubject5990 11 місяців тому +1

      Makes sense not allowing them for hunting, fire fighters use them to start back burning to control forrest fires. Bunch of idiots using them for hunting would burn the whole forrest down.

  • @rhyslogan6490
    @rhyslogan6490 9 місяців тому +7

    I bought several boxes of what was advertised as "tracer" birdshot recently. The idea is that there is a chunk of magnesium in the shot cup and a small hole to allow the burning powder to ignite it. That doesn't really work but they are great skeet rounds. Ive been cutting them open and loading my own proprietary mix of steel wool and magnesium shavings, scientifically determined by "that looks about right". I removed the shot cup and replaced it with a perforated wad, again proprietary, to allow ignition of the mix while keeping it out of the powder. I then cut the fins off of the shot cup, inverted it and used it as wadding to keep the mix in while retaining the magnesium chunk, filled the underside and remaining orifices of the shot cup with bbs to add at least some weight, wrapped it in electrical tape for a snug fit and sealed the end by dripping melted wax into the exposed bbs. They work great, with a little tweaking I'll have something better than you could buy

  • @L3giT_Hax
    @L3giT_Hax Рік тому +25

    Ignited Magnesium wants to consume oxygen so badly it'll rip the oxygen molecules out of dry ice when enclosed in it.

    • @wilhelmtaylor9863
      @wilhelmtaylor9863 Рік тому

      I was skeptical and looked this up. You are correct. Wow.

    • @pcalna3202
      @pcalna3202 8 місяців тому

      Do you mean oxygen atoms? And what happens with the leftover carbon then after the oxygen is so savagely ripped away?

  • @lawrencemay8726
    @lawrencemay8726 Рік тому +24

    They're legal in North Carolina. Just use them on a private range somewhere, you won't be able to use them on an indoor or outdoor range due to fire hazards. It's really a lame round with no real purpose except at a cookout on a farm somewhere and they can provide an after-dark entertainment type thing but they're basically useless otherwise

    • @kevincoffey3112
      @kevincoffey3112 Рік тому

      Let me shoot one at you

    • @testsubject5990
      @testsubject5990 11 місяців тому

      Fire fighters use them for back burning to control forrest fires. They're also used for signaling by rangers etc.

  • @mean45acp
    @mean45acp Рік тому +2

    ONLY ILLEGAL IN CERTAIN PLACES. I HAVE ABOUT A CASE OF THEM. THEY ARE FUN, BUT NOT VERY PRACTICAL.

  • @kuzadupa185
    @kuzadupa185 Рік тому +2

    Magnesium rounds or coated rds are the only ones capable of igniting gas tanks or propane tanks like in the movies

  • @rickyparham8230
    @rickyparham8230 Рік тому +3

    Mr. Spomer, i am absolutely fascinated with your knowledge of ammo & hunting. not to mention your ability to explain in simple to understand terms is not to be overlooked. thank you for your dedication sir

  • @jcnikoley
    @jcnikoley Рік тому

    Lol. They are nothing but a firework fired from a shotgun barrel. Magnesium and steel wool. Likely to burn off your mustache if you get shot with it, but that’s about it.

  • @mikefranklin1253
    @mikefranklin1253 Рік тому +18

    I knew a Police Officer in the late 70s who carried Dragon's Breath in his duty shotgun. I never knew of him using it.
    They are illegal in california.

    • @GunGuy258
      @GunGuy258 Рік тому

      Breathing is illegal in California. Place is a shit hole!

    • @lawrencemay8726
      @lawrencemay8726 Рік тому +7

      Of course it is, Everything is illegal in California as far as guns go.. But in all seriousness, California has some of the strictest laws regarding Firearms, ammunition, magazine capacity, Etc. I don't think anyone is shocked to hear that dragon's breath rounds would be up prohibited in California

    • @TigerxrayLIB
      @TigerxrayLIB Рік тому +3

      Air is illegal in The Peoples Republic of California!!!!

    • @user-ug5xr2gb6j
      @user-ug5xr2gb6j Рік тому +1

      @@TigerxrayLIB No, it’ll just be heavily taxed as soon as I figure out how to go about it.

    • @deanmaidens3162
      @deanmaidens3162 Рік тому +1

      Everything good is illegal in California

  • @michaelmcqueen6918
    @michaelmcqueen6918 Рік тому +2

    I keep one barrel of my double barrel loaded with dragons breath and the other with flechettes. If a burglar gets away from me just go to the emergency room and wait for the guy who looks like a porcupine escaped from hell

  • @ThugaliciousYT
    @ThugaliciousYT Рік тому +1

    Pretty sure it’s either magnesium or phosphorus, but every individual pellet is covered in it and it ignites when it hits the air so it puts holes on a target while burning it

  • @dustinashcraft1882
    @dustinashcraft1882 Рік тому +2

    I found some 45 incendiary rounds

  • @robertmcmanus8760
    @robertmcmanus8760 3 місяці тому

    I saw them being sold at Cabela's in Virginia in 2001. I don't think anything has changed since then.

  • @Coldcooler3
    @Coldcooler3 Рік тому

    its not magnesium its usually phosphorus or in some rare cases, thermite, but usually phosphorus.

  • @heyjohnson5535
    @heyjohnson5535 Рік тому +1

    they are everywhere to purchase they even have a heavier duty dragon breath now that is supposed to shoot twice as big of a flame basically. if u want to see them demo ranch has used them recently in a youtube video if u want to see the new version llike dragonbreath 2.0

  • @mechanicalbow
    @mechanicalbow Рік тому

    Dragons breathe is not illegal. They are cost prohibitive.

  • @BryanChambers-x1p
    @BryanChambers-x1p Рік тому

    Nope they are phosphorus as soon as it contacts with air is When it ignites, not off round firing the round

  • @kainepinter9947
    @kainepinter9947 Рік тому +1

    I work at the company that makes all that stuff for all these other businesses I am our center-fire firestorm technician but our dragons breath I can't say the exact compound but it burns about roughly 1500 degrees hotter than magnesium and we also have dragon buck

    • @stefanl5183
      @stefanl5183 Рік тому

      Zirconium is what I've heard, but everybody mistakenly calls it Magnesium. Magnesium would probably be too light. Anyway, I can tell it's not magnesium by the color of the light. Magnesium seems to be more bluish. I understand you can't give away trade secrets, but here's question perhaps you can answer. Does it actually ignite while still in the barrel or immediately after exiting? The reason I ask, it would seem to me there'd be very little oxygen inside the barrel and mostly gases from the combustion of the propellant. So, I'm thinking it probably doesn't actually ignite until it hits the outside air. That's probably good because it doesn't subject the barrel to the extreme heat. Also what kind of choke do you recommend when shooting it?

  • @2JustMe1
    @2JustMe1 Рік тому +2

    He probably lives in CA.

  • @Ben-lo7cy
    @Ben-lo7cy 8 місяців тому

    It’s mostly magnesium with a little bird shot

  • @BF-I-II-V-V-III-VII
    @BF-I-II-V-V-III-VII Рік тому

    Magnesium is really bad for the barrel.

  • @fungifactory8925
    @fungifactory8925 Рік тому

    So hypothetically one could just buy some magnesium on ebay and put a couple small chunks in a shell with some shot and then proceed to not spend nearly $7/rd?

    • @kainepinter9947
      @kainepinter9947 Рік тому

      Not at all it is such a process like it took our company 6 years of handloaded trials

  • @bruceblackerby3742
    @bruceblackerby3742 Рік тому

    Aaron is ignorant, it would seem.

  • @ultramarine3527
    @ultramarine3527 7 місяців тому

    Well shit i got mine for 20$ after tax

  • @tbjtbj4786
    @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому +3

    There not leagle in fl. But what I have seen in a state where they were leagle they are just powder magnisem.
    I really wish they were leagle in fl. There cheaper than buying a flame thrower. And they would be grate doing prescribed burning around swampie place. They would keep you from having to walk into those nasty snake places you could stay out and still get it to burn with out using drip torches.

    • @gimpyRW
      @gimpyRW Рік тому

      You have a point about being cheaper than buying a flame thrower, but, believe me having and using a flame thrower is fun.

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому

      @@gimpyRW i bet it is but at 600 thats kinda expensive for around 3 fires a year.
      And honestly with a flamethrower its kinda lime brakes do you want the cheapest one?
      The last dragon breath i saw was 3 shells for 18$

    • @I_love_bread_and_Hungry_Jacks
      @I_love_bread_and_Hungry_Jacks 9 місяців тому

      ​@@tbjtbj4786 Fl as in Florida? Too many Florida man perharps?

  • @TheStuart-of-Cosby
    @TheStuart-of-Cosby Рік тому

    I do a little ( Special ) Hunting I make my own homemade Dragons Breath. I take a Dragons Breath round apart, use the Phosphorus pellets and OO Buckshot. And mix the two back together in the casing The OO Buck come out of. lol 😆 😂
    I've also got a few loaded in the hollow points of12 gauge slugs

  • @mannyrodriguez6598
    @mannyrodriguez6598 20 днів тому

    Perfect home defense.

  • @joshearhart6142
    @joshearhart6142 Рік тому

    It's a novelty😅

  • @davejugger8319
    @davejugger8319 Рік тому

    They are actually filled with titanium shavings, not magnesium

  • @justacentrist4147
    @justacentrist4147 Рік тому +1

    In canada they are illegal

    • @rustleshackleford1553
      @rustleshackleford1553 Рік тому +4

      But then again...what isn't?!!

    • @justacentrist4147
      @justacentrist4147 Рік тому

      @rustleshackleford1553 lots of fierarms are legal for sporting purposes. But i get your point my country has turned into a commie Cuck state

  • @dirtysouth7164
    @dirtysouth7164 Рік тому

    .256 Win Mag

  • @btdtalso
    @btdtalso Рік тому

    Don't use them in a shotgun that you care about. Magnesium burns above the melting point of steel.

  • @davy1458
    @davy1458 7 місяців тому

    Does the dragons breath damage the barrel?

  • @SmugTheClown
    @SmugTheClown Рік тому

    Damn

  • @haroldporterfield7063
    @haroldporterfield7063 Рік тому

    War wolf ammo sells dragons breath it is legal in most states burns 5500°

  • @Danny-eh8us
    @Danny-eh8us Рік тому

    If someone has gotten shot it’s mostly for good reason so who’s to say you can’t give em an extra bit of ouch😂

  • @jamesendsley2611
    @jamesendsley2611 Рік тому

    Dragon's breath shotgun shells are not illegal to consider flares

  • @Kingfisher276
    @Kingfisher276 11 місяців тому

    So you can shoot a grouse and cook it to ? Ohhhh boy we’re gonna have fun in Canada eh ? Hahaha

  • @lachlanhenry486
    @lachlanhenry486 Рік тому

    I'm sure someone has sent a lipo battery down range from a barrel.

  • @Steven-u8n
    @Steven-u8n 8 місяців тому

    ATF is about to wake up in a cold sweat😂

  • @timothystockstill7668
    @timothystockstill7668 Рік тому

    Blast the hole and carterizes it at the same time awesome

  • @Daniel-iz7iz
    @Daniel-iz7iz 3 місяці тому

    Best area denial round out there

  • @ericfrontczak8016
    @ericfrontczak8016 Рік тому

    Magnesium 5400f

  • @travistoor6360
    @travistoor6360 Рік тому

    Got to love the uneducated😂

  • @deanmaidens3162
    @deanmaidens3162 Рік тому

    I had them back in the 90's

  • @Sparkeycarp
    @Sparkeycarp Рік тому

    What do they do to your barrel?

    • @kainepinter9947
      @kainepinter9947 Рік тому

      After about 10 just bore snake it it won't tear up a barrel just makes it dirty

  • @austingoleman9431
    @austingoleman9431 Рік тому

    Got some of that Willy Pete in them 😂

  • @erroneous6947
    @erroneous6947 Рік тому +2

    They’re illegal here in Florida. Along with binary triggers.

  • @scottzackery3209
    @scottzackery3209 Рік тому

    Each state is different, even gun laws, to " the big eraser in the sky " and " it's black and wht " poeple.
    think !! ,ask a qualified individual, class 2 gunsmith, hunter ,game Warden , rifle shooter, hunter in a bar??!
    Then open up your mouth and have an opinion, or buy me beer and I'll explain.
    Knowing is half the battle, quote from GI Joe.
    You can buy anything, it's just the question." Is this worth prison time ??!"

  • @tubeguy4066
    @tubeguy4066 Рік тому +3

    Dragons breath is a meme.

  • @Redneck85
    @Redneck85 Рік тому

    COME ON PETA UR NOT GETTING AWAY FROM THIS PETA

  • @RAYTHEONGAMING
    @RAYTHEONGAMING Рік тому

    Can you imagine how shitty it would be to get shot with Dragons Breath and surviving

  • @bobdixon4998
    @bobdixon4998 Рік тому

    Can't be good for barrels! I'm sure of that.

  • @robertdinicola9225
    @robertdinicola9225 Рік тому

    not legal in florida.

  • @lathamarea1437
    @lathamarea1437 Рік тому

    is that what tracers are made from.?