Check out my first episode of A Style Is Born on the Wayfair UA-cam Channel! Let's learn about the history behind Art Deco togetherrr :] astyleisborn.link/ASIBs2e1Kaz
Yeah I'm not even queer and I love learning about it! It's such an interesting and important history that I feel people don't talk about enough in general.
I'm a poop old white guy, and I love your videos. Well researched, entertaining, and always something that I feel like I should have learned decades ago. I spent 20 years living in Chicago and miss it with every fiber of my being. I love the way you represent Chicago's history, and the city itself. I also love your outfits in each video. They ground you in the times you talk about and always look sharp. You and your crew do great work. Thank you.
I think it's so ironic that some people claim that these two women were not "sapphic". The constant letter writing and written expressions of love are exactly what Sappho did with her lovers. Allegedly. "
A lot of people (especially right now) seem to think any historical figure being gay is made up propaganda. Which is amazing considering how we often have examples of them basically writing I’M REALLY GAY. I AM SUPER GAY.
@@davidbowman2001reminds me of that Egyptian tomb with writing that basically says "yeah I prefer my top man servant to my wife and had him replace her in my tomb and all our pictures, and I'll haunt you if you change it once we're dead idc if you think we're weird" And people still try to argue it was a straight guy
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails481What you have said here is true. All of ancient Rome and Greece were not gay. There were no more LGBTQ+ people then than there are now, BUT there were also no fewer. The thing I think you are talking about is that older men often had younger men or boys as lovers. This was not about being gay. It was something that was just done by men of a certain age and social standing. This practice is called "pederasty" and has nothing to do with being gay. It was no more "gay" than a modern man having a mistress. Also, this practice did not extend into the Roman world, where homosexuality was generally looked down upon or even condemned. Even the Greek practice had for the most part gone out of fashion before Rome became a thing. As far as the women of Lesbos all being lesbians, no one with any knowledge about that time and place would not have believed that. Nobody ever believed that the entire female population of Lesbos was all gay. It just that the word "lesbian" originally came from the name of the island that the famous poet Sappho was from. She wrote a lot of poetry about women who loved women, so that is where her reputation as being what we would call a lesbian came from. Because she was famous for this, the island she came from became associated with one famous gay woman, not that all the women from there were actually gay, though some definitely were. We LGBTQ+'ers are everywhere and always have been. Genetics will always win out.
I did a report on her (and Mary) in highschool history class. She was such an influential figure in so many communities. What an underappreciated role model, I'm glad I found her.
I'm sitting here getting misty eyes at their letters. Jane Addams and her partner Mary sound like such wonderful people . Thank you so much for mentioning that not having sex doesn't mean that you are not queer' as a biromantic asexual women your words are incredibly affirming.
Still kinda sucks to know that even today, women and people of color are paid less just because of those arbitrary aspects. Breaks my heart but that can be one more thing we come together to fight against and address properly. Thank you Kaz!💗
I thought it was cause leaving poverty is difficult so black children who have parents or grandparents who were discriminated against or enslaved have harder odds to face then white kids and that women earn a cupple percent less over their lives on average cause there are more female mothers then male so over their lives they spend less total time earning
@@jamieminnell7316white women make .82¢ for every dollar a man makes. For black women it's .69¢ and hispanic women it's .64¢. The only women that get close are Asian women at .93¢ and that's still not equal pay. This information is from the Economic Policy Institute for 2022.
@@jamieminnell7316its both really. Not only do women and people of colour born in the west lack generational wealth and opportunities, but they are often overlooked for promotions, more likely to be fired or let go, and more likely to be offered lower wages or salary compared to white men working the same job roles in the same places. So theres both a lifetime average gap, and a day to day wage gap. Sucks
Kaz, I'm in my 50s and remember as a child reading about Jane Addams and Hull House. That part of her life was completely ignored in all the texts then. Thank you for putting forward this beautiful story...and also for including ALL of it, not just the comfortable parts.
I am a social work student (recently finished my BSW, working on an MSW). I have been taught about Jane Addams being the first social worker and about Hull House, but I had no idea she was sapphic and that Hull House is considered haunted! Maybe the haunted house piece isn’t too important to social work, but I would love to see her being sapphic incorporated into SW education because it’s so important that the woman who is basically the founder of the school work profession is wlw! Thanks for such a cool video :)
Your segment on Mary and Jane's love made me tear up- I think I would have had a similar emotional reaction, in the room dedicated to their relationship. You're right; too often, queer relationships of the past aren't preserved, presented, or displayed for the public. What a wonderful gift to the queer community ❤ Thank you for your everything you do for the LGBTQIA+ community! Happy Pride!
loved this!! i just wanna comment and say as a disabled, trans and queer person living isolated at home with long covid and me/cfs, it wa such a joy stumbling across your videos this evening as im crocheting! as my partner was beside me doing school work, i audibly gasped and shouted to them "omg a mask??!!" thank you so much for being a content creator the disabled and covid concious community can watch in peace!!
Thank you for making the choice to call her sapphic!! I appreciate the language as it includes all of the possible sapphic identities she could've been
My dad lived in Cedarville Illinois, the place where she was born and raised. They still have her house maintained, and the new owners would let us into the front room that was kept historically accurate, but the rest of the interior house was renovated. Cedarville also has a small museum dedicated to her , she was always a childhood hero of mine. I love finding out that she’s a lesbian icon! ❤❤❤
The comment about the UIC student housing RUINED me 😂 I lived in those dorms and remember reading those displays a bit too closely. Ruined the whole dorm experience.
Kaz, I think you know more about sports than me, but I think this is what our boy Rube Waddell would’ve called a “home run!” People like YOU and your followers make Pride month all the prouder! 🏳️🌈
God, the part where you touched on how amazing it is that people like Jane and Mary and spaces like theirs are so rarely preserved… I was tearing up. If I ever visit Chicago, I know where I’ll be going first. Thank you, Kaz.
It fills my heart up to hear this story! I have a great-great aunt in my family tree (my mother is named after her, actually) who had a "friend" she lived with for much of her life, before she had to go to an old age home. My mother and aunt have argued about what sort of friend Aunt Helen had...I suppose we'll never know
Hello Kaz! As a fellow Chicagoian, Sapphic, and history lover, I absolutely adored this video. I really appreciate your content and the work you put into it! I was moved to tears hearing about Jane and Mary’s relationship. Your work is so important!
"Always, forever and unchangingly yours" has to be the most passionate declaration of love ever. I don't know why, but that line made me cry (was crying through the whole video anyway).
I learned about Jane in my APUSH class not too long ago, and I’m glad I did! She is an important figure in the history of Chicago and I’m glad you are covering her story.
"Did you ever think I'd be so sentimental but I am about you Dear" ~my aroace brain every time I look at my queerplatonic partner We've been talking about taking a trip to Chicago sometime, I'm definitely adding Hull House to our list of things to see!
I love how you address that even those who did great things didn't get everything right all the time. You do a great job of acknowledging their faults and simultaneously celebrating the good things they did.
LOL the Ryan voice! I love your humor and the passion you have for history. I am a fellow historian and enjoy seeing all the ways history is taught and kept alive. Great work as always! Happy Pride Month! 💜
@@nancytoothaker3224 I am pretty sure Kaz uses they/them pronouns. I am using historian as a general term for people who work in the history field by contributing research or sharing knowledge. I do historical research therefore I am a historian. It is silly to only use the title for the top positions in the field.
@@TinyGhosty Ah. I see. Lots of historians around then. People who work for years getting their "top" positions may disagree with you about how silly it is. My apologies for the pronoun, perhaps making their preference known would be helpful in avoiding mistakes in the comments in the future.
@@nancytoothaker3224 Yes lots of historians around because history is an active and important field we need to not leave behind. That's like gatekeeping the title scientist for only people who work at NASA and other agencies and those publishing articles while forgetting about everyone who works in labs, contributes research, and keeps the field working. The top positions in history rely on everyone to keep the field alive and growing, weird for you to gatekeep it considering you have not revealed you are ACTUALLY in the history field. Your opinion means nothing to me and the potential gatekeeping of MY field is cringe.
@@TinyGhosty 😆 **DingDingDing** I win! I bet that your response would include crying about gatekeeping! At least you're predictable. No one's keeping you from engaging in your interests, from enjoying the fruits of others labor and using it to further your knowledge or from claiming that you are a history buff. And the scientists at NASA have formal educations in their fields, I'm pretty sure you can't just call yourself a rocket engineer. You want to be an armchair historian? Good for you. Just don't pretend to have accumulated the credentials and education of actual historians, be honest with people and say so. I see that you require my occupation to be in the history field before I can express an opinion, how very strange. Sounds almost like gatekeeping 😆 It's also strange that you take the time, in a very long response, to make sure and say that my opinion means nothing to you. Really? Doesn't seem like you're being quite honest there, after taking the time to try and rebut me. Seems like my opinion struck a nerve actually. Oh, Happy Pride month.
im not american so i came to know about her thanks to the ghoul boys lmao so after watching the ghost files' hull house ep i looked her up and i was blown away by her life-work - she was, and still is, a fascinating figure! and to learn she was one of us is even cooler so thank you for making this video!
This is so wonderful. I’m choked up. It’s funny because I taught Sociology in high school in Texas for over a decade. We covered Hull House and Jane Addams, but of course, the queer history wasn’t included in the textbooks. Wonderful video, as always, I learn so much. Take care ❤
I know it's a long shot, but my mom is a contributor on Find A Grave. She's documented thousands of people on there. She may be able to help you find some of those you are looking for or know who to ask to help you find them. She has worked with other contributors and family members from all over, looking for people. It amazes me what all she has been able to dig up so that people aren't forgotten.
I can not express how I happy I was to see this video. Because I spent almost a semester study Jane Addams for a US History project and I was fascinated with her. A thousand times thank you for making this video
I also studied her for a history project, mine was for my college honors program. I loved how I chose to study a Sapphic just by chance. I did find it kinda frustrating the book dismissed the Sapphic-nes of her relationships with a "we will never know if she had sex with women" kinda mentality.
There is a little story I would like to post here about HULL HOUSE a story my mother told me when I was little. My mother had a painting done when she was a girl called THE LITTLE IRISH GIRL. The painting hung in Hull House for years later my father met the artist Shirley Friend and he bought the painting from her as a anniversary present for my mother also a trip to Ireland for the whole family. It was a fun trip till we got to Waterford and my mother suffered a massive stroke. When she was able to fly home with my father she went straight in the hospital my father showed her the painting and with my mothers stroke she could only say yes or no but she saw the painting for the first time since she had the painting done and whispered "That's me".
Excellent episode, Kaz! I remember studying Jane Addams in college, almost 40 years ago, and never learned anything about her personal relationships. Thanks for sharing this amazing side of Jane with us!
So excited to see this! We were just talking about Jane Addams in my labor history class this summer. An amazing woman, I'm glad to that her Sapphic identity is celebrated as being a part of who she was!
I love that some people think you are making everything gay rather than everything being gay and you just pointing it out with well researched videos! I hope you have a wonderful day!
Hi, just wanted to say that you're one of my favorite UA-camrs. Not only do you pick topics I am super interested in, i really love your writing and research! Engaging and handled respectfully, insightfully, critically. We need more lesbian historians and more historians like you. I hope you keep it up as long as it brings you joy, i really appreciate what you do!
12:41 A long ago friend once told me how much pressure museums are under to keep up dumb legends. Especially anything even slightly uncanny. It sadly works 🤨. Also she truly was a glorious bad ass.
I grew up in Cedarville and heard about Jane my whole life, over and over. She was the ONE THING that little village had. I went past the house she grew up in on the bus every morning for years and years. I never knew she was sapphic. This is completely left out of the history I was taught despite the reverance for her. So imagine my queer delight seeing this pop up! Keep doing what you're doing. It's so important. We both know it isn't a mistake that this doesn't get talked about, and I hope this comes up in the searches for all the kids who have to write the same papers I did back then from here on out.
I love hearing about love stories. I love love. The letters are so beautiful. If someone wrote anything remotely like that to me I would be on my knees.
Gosh this is so real. Love truly is such a powerful thing. I love writing letters and poems, but sadly lack a person I can devote them to... It's kind of funny how there's many people who would love receiving them and many who would love to write them, yet we never find each other. I hope you'll someday hold a letter full of adoration and heart grasping words with your own hands :)
I started watching this after a marathon of Watcher content, not realizing the topic had overlap, and I was so confused and amused that they followed me into this video, too. :P
As a European, I'd never heard of Jane Addams, so thank you for this wonderfully informative video! I always await your uploads eagerly because I love the way you present history, and your research is always brilliant. I hope you manage to find Mary's grave one day, and I'm off to watch the Wayfair series as that sounds super interesting too
As an historian myself I really love your dedication to research and nuance! Also opens my eyes to look more into queer history. A straight 54 yo cis man, I sure missed out on that for far too long ...
I played Jane Addams in my class’ WW1 simulation, so I am very excited to find out that she was also queer like me!!! My teacher told me she is her favorite person from this time period and I can see why. I also beat Teddy Roosevelt up in the sim (metaphorically) so I hope the ghost of Jane Addams is proud of that
Yes! Preach!! Romantic attraction is also queerness. I am ace and am romantically attracted to any gender. Thank you, Kaz! I also know the ace lesbian community is strong. Rowan Ellis comes to mind 💜 edit: Not bringing up ace people for the topic of Jane Addams specifically, but just responding to sexual activity not being essential to queerness.
I graduated from Rockford college, now called Rockford University. It used to be Rockford Seminary. It keeps her legacy alive and continues to bring in controversial activists and even plays. I loved it there!
About the open preservation of their relationship, Kaz, I completely get you. As a sapphic person, I’d be balling my eyes out if I went to that museum for that reason.
I know a bit about Jane Addams through a somewhat local historical house dedicated to preserving the legacy of Jessie Binford, who worked close with Addams at Hull House before returning to Iowa.
It is truly a blessing when one can spend 40 years of life with someone you love so dearly, may we all be so lucky and all do our best to make the world around us even just a tiny little bit better every day ❤
So excited for your episodes of A Style is Born! I love Ariel’s content and really enjoyed her episodes on the wayfair channel. You’re a perfect successor for season 2!
We feel fortunate to have found Kaz to carry on the torch for Ariel. We love home design, and we're humbled by the deep knowledge Kaz brings to the table and their ability to uncover a history we never knew existed. Stay tuned for more episodes of A Style Is Born!
Thanks! As an asexual, I'm glad to hear you say it! I’m someone who doesn’t care at all about burials, my burial or my loved one burials. But I don’t know why, I care a lot queer stranger couples’ burials.
I learned a little bit about Jane and Hull House in high school so it's very cool to learn more about her and her queerness. It really is amazing that we still have her letters to Mary even if there's so much more about their relationship that has been lost
I actually learned about Jane Addams in my American history course in college, but I didn’t remember as much as I would have liked so I’m so grateful you made this video since it’s a great refresher on what she did and who she was (but also an angle I didn’t learn about).
I'm from Chicago and I've read Studs Terkel. I learned to swim at a Jane Adams Center. It was kinda like the Y. Even FUNNER FACT When I got my bachelor's in printmaking at Northeastern IL university the stone blocks we used for lithography were from the ORIGINAL Jane Adams center, it had a printing studio. some of them still had *ghost images of ads for stuff like baking powder from the early 1900s! ( faded aftermarks on the stone)
Thank you so much for this video ❤ I am a Gay man from Germany and especially Janes Letters to Mary make me think about how much i miss and love my husband who lives in Buffalo NY... their Lovestory is truly inspiring and i hope that i too will have such a long and loving life full of love on the side of my beloved husband as well. Happy pride month to you Kaz ❤🧡💚💙💜
I’ve lived in Chicago for the past 3 years and I am now going to grad school at UIC. I have heard Jane’s name many times before but had no idea about her history. What an amazing woman! Thank you so much for sharing 💕
Kaz, I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you do. Your videos have helped my coming out and self acceptance journey more than you can know. And to see the rich history I now get to participate in is such a great gift. These videos give me a sense of legacy, community, and validity. I know you will most likely never see this comment, but in case you do, please know that you are doing life-changing work and there are so many people all over the world whose minds and hearts you are touching and affirming. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU ❤
Thanks for posting this video! I lived in Chicago a few years and served as a social worker, teacher and human rights activist in the US before moving to Southeast Asia in 2013. I appreciate your work. Best HAPPY PRIDE wishes from Cambodia.
Went to a really boring training on Jane Adams today and this video was not only infinitely more entertaining, it was infinitely more informative! Thank you for posting this. The work it must have taken boggles my mind. Thank you!
Check out my first episode of A Style Is Born on the Wayfair UA-cam Channel! Let's learn about the history behind Art Deco togetherrr :] astyleisborn.link/ASIBs2e1Kaz
im an interior designer who doesn’t watch design shows but I will watch the shit out of this due to my undying crush on kaz.
"Don't do a violence. Violence is bad."
America: "SOMEONE STOP HER THAT WOMAN IS DANGEROUS"
The amount of pushback a lot of people receive/received for basically saying don’t be a giant asshole is astounding
Yeah it’s almost like we demonize peaceful demonstrations and protests / strikes
God every time you have an episode covering historical queer couples I get all teary.
Yeah ngl, those letters were some real tearjerkers 🥹
Yeah I'm not even queer and I love learning about it! It's such an interesting and important history that I feel people don't talk about enough in general.
my 2 favorite things, ghosts and lesbians. sign me up
Babe wake up, Kaz Rowe uploaded during Pride Month!!! 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷
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Oh, man! It's Christmas!🎉🎉🎉
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I'm a poop old white guy, and I love your videos. Well researched, entertaining, and always something that I feel like I should have learned decades ago.
I spent 20 years living in Chicago and miss it with every fiber of my being. I love the way you represent Chicago's history, and the city itself.
I also love your outfits in each video. They ground you in the times you talk about and always look sharp.
You and your crew do great work. Thank you.
I'm not sure they have a crew, I think it's just them
@@kevinwells9751 which is even more impressive ☺️
@@kevinwells9751they do say at the end of the video that the team enjoyed putting this together.
‘Poop old white guy’!! I’m dead 😂 Surely not that old since you’re kickin’ it on the ol’ Tube. Made me laugh, thank you.
@@kevinwells9751Them? U mean the female in the vid? Sorry im new here
I think it's so ironic that some people claim that these two women were not "sapphic". The constant letter writing and written expressions of love
are exactly what Sappho did with her lovers. Allegedly. "
A lot of people (especially right now) seem to think any historical figure being gay is made up propaganda.
Which is amazing considering how we often have examples of them basically writing I’M REALLY GAY. I AM SUPER GAY.
@@davidbowman2001reminds me of that Egyptian tomb with writing that basically says "yeah I prefer my top man servant to my wife and had him replace her in my tomb and all our pictures, and I'll haunt you if you change it once we're dead idc if you think we're weird"
And people still try to argue it was a straight guy
@@Rynewulf💀💀
I've seen people claim ancient Greece and Rome wasn't gay. And the women on the island that we get the word lesbian from weren't lesbians.💀
@manwhoismissingtwotoenails481What you have said here is true. All of ancient Rome and Greece were not gay. There were no more LGBTQ+ people then than there are now, BUT there were also no fewer. The thing I think you are talking about is that older men often had younger men or boys as lovers. This was not about being gay. It was something that was just done by men of a certain age and social standing. This practice is called "pederasty" and has nothing to do with being gay. It was no more "gay" than a modern man having a mistress. Also, this practice did not extend into the Roman world, where homosexuality was generally looked down upon or even condemned. Even the Greek practice had for the most part gone out of fashion before Rome became a thing.
As far as the women of Lesbos all being lesbians, no one with any knowledge about that time and place would not have believed that. Nobody ever believed that the entire female population of Lesbos was all gay. It just that the word "lesbian" originally came from the name of the island that the famous poet Sappho was from. She wrote a lot of poetry about women who loved women, so that is where her reputation as being what we would call a lesbian came from. Because she was famous for this, the island she came from became associated with one famous gay woman, not that all the women from there were actually gay, though some definitely were. We LGBTQ+'ers are everywhere and always have been. Genetics will always win out.
In seventh grade, I had written a paper on Jane Addams and the entire time referred to Ellen and Mary as Jane’s “roommates”. 😂
Oh my god they were roommates
Hilarious 😆
Well,you are technically right. Just scratching the surface but 7th grade
Aren’t we all
The most dangerous woman in the world for being a pacifist.... goals
I did a report on her (and Mary) in highschool history class. She was such an influential figure in so many communities. What an underappreciated role model, I'm glad I found her.
Me too! But in college for my honors project. I was so happy I chose a Sapphic historical figure to study just by chance.
I learned about her in middle or elementary school, but we definitely didn’t talk about the gayness
I'm sitting here getting misty eyes at their letters. Jane Addams and her partner Mary sound like such wonderful people . Thank you so much for mentioning that not having sex doesn't mean that you are not queer' as a biromantic asexual women your words are incredibly affirming.
As a haunted Chicago sapphic, I am so hyped for this video!
Still kinda sucks to know that even today, women and people of color are paid less just because of those arbitrary aspects. Breaks my heart but that can be one more thing we come together to fight against and address properly. Thank you Kaz!💗
I thought it was cause leaving poverty is difficult so black children who have parents or grandparents who were discriminated against or enslaved have harder odds to face then white kids and that women earn a cupple percent less over their lives on average cause there are more female mothers then male so over their lives they spend less total time earning
@@jamieminnell7316white women make .82¢ for every dollar a man makes. For black women it's .69¢ and hispanic women it's .64¢. The only women that get close are Asian women at .93¢ and that's still not equal pay. This information is from the Economic Policy Institute for 2022.
@@jamieminnell7316its both really. Not only do women and people of colour born in the west lack generational wealth and opportunities, but they are often overlooked for promotions, more likely to be fired or let go, and more likely to be offered lower wages or salary compared to white men working the same job roles in the same places.
So theres both a lifetime average gap, and a day to day wage gap. Sucks
@@RynewulfDo we have any statistical information on NB pay comparisons yet?
@@philzeo no idea, but it would be interesting to see the effects!
Kaz, I'm in my 50s and remember as a child reading about Jane Addams and Hull House. That part of her life was completely ignored in all the texts then. Thank you for putting forward this beautiful story...and also for including ALL of it, not just the comfortable parts.
I am a social work student (recently finished my BSW, working on an MSW). I have been taught about Jane Addams being the first social worker and about Hull House, but I had no idea she was sapphic and that Hull House is considered haunted! Maybe the haunted house piece isn’t too important to social work, but I would love to see her being sapphic incorporated into SW education because it’s so important that the woman who is basically the founder of the school work profession is wlw! Thanks for such a cool video :)
Your segment on Mary and Jane's love made me tear up- I think I would have had a similar emotional reaction, in the room dedicated to their relationship. You're right; too often, queer relationships of the past aren't preserved, presented, or displayed for the public. What a wonderful gift to the queer community ❤
Thank you for your everything you do for the LGBTQIA+ community! Happy Pride!
im so happy that i can have a queer historical figure to look up too who isn’t a horrible person, happy pride month everyone ❤️🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
Crying over those letters. It's melancholy but very sweet that their love can persist to the present day in this way.
Lmaoooo the list of alternate activities was just perfection
“Why is everything gay with you” have you considered that I am, in fact, gay. For the whole day even!
"The Devil lives in all holes" sounds like something purity culture would say LOOOL
It's so meaningful to see my own love in the love described by this woman
loved this!! i just wanna comment and say as a disabled, trans and queer person living isolated at home with long covid and me/cfs, it wa such a joy stumbling across your videos this evening as im crocheting! as my partner was beside me doing school work, i audibly gasped and shouted to them "omg a mask??!!" thank you so much for being a content creator the disabled and covid concious community can watch in peace!!
Kaz mimicking Ryan’s “narration voice” from unsolved was everything i needed omg
Thank you for making the choice to call her sapphic!! I appreciate the language as it includes all of the possible sapphic identities she could've been
My "We Don't Have A Devil Baby Here At Hull House" shirt has been raising a lot of questions that's already answered by my shirt.
My dad lived in Cedarville Illinois, the place where she was born and raised. They still have her house maintained, and the new owners would let us into the front room that was kept historically accurate, but the rest of the interior house was renovated.
Cedarville also has a small museum dedicated to her , she was always a childhood hero of mine. I love finding out that she’s a lesbian icon! ❤❤❤
The comment about the UIC student housing RUINED me 😂 I lived in those dorms and remember reading those displays a bit too closely. Ruined the whole dorm experience.
Kaz, I think you know more about sports than me, but I think this is what our boy Rube Waddell would’ve called a “home run!” People like YOU and your followers make Pride month all the prouder! 🏳️🌈
It's really sad they aren't buried in the same plot.
God, the part where you touched on how amazing it is that people like Jane and Mary and spaces like theirs are so rarely preserved… I was tearing up. If I ever visit Chicago, I know where I’ll be going first. Thank you, Kaz.
It fills my heart up to hear this story! I have a great-great aunt in my family tree (my mother is named after her, actually) who had a "friend" she lived with for much of her life, before she had to go to an old age home. My mother and aunt have argued about what sort of friend Aunt Helen had...I suppose we'll never know
The noise I just made when Kaz started doing the Buzzfeed Unsolved narrative voice! Ryan would be proud.
Hello Kaz! As a fellow Chicagoian, Sapphic, and history lover, I absolutely adored this video. I really appreciate your content and the work you put into it! I was moved to tears hearing about Jane and Mary’s relationship. Your work is so important!
"Always, forever and unchangingly yours" has to be the most passionate declaration of love ever. I don't know why, but that line made me cry (was crying through the whole video anyway).
tutter looks so happy in his little chair in his little hat wtf
I learned about Jane in my APUSH class not too long ago, and I’m glad I did! She is an important figure in the history of Chicago and I’m glad you are covering her story.
"Did you ever think I'd be so sentimental but I am about you Dear"
~my aroace brain every time I look at my queerplatonic partner
We've been talking about taking a trip to Chicago sometime, I'm definitely adding Hull House to our list of things to see!
What a beautiful tribute! As far as dance halls go, in a world that wants us to do nothing but work, joy is radical and pleasure is praxis.
this is a beautiful comment
As a social worker I love that you did a video of Jane Addams, a lot of ppl don’t discuss her just in general
I love how you address that even those who did great things didn't get everything right all the time. You do a great job of acknowledging their faults and simultaneously celebrating the good things they did.
LOL the Ryan voice! I love your humor and the passion you have for history. I am a fellow historian and enjoy seeing all the ways history is taught and kept alive. Great work as always! Happy Pride Month! 💜
Wait. She's a historian?
@@nancytoothaker3224 I am pretty sure Kaz uses they/them pronouns. I am using historian as a general term for people who work in the history field by contributing research or sharing knowledge. I do historical research therefore I am a historian. It is silly to only use the title for the top positions in the field.
@@TinyGhosty Ah. I see. Lots of historians around then. People who work for years getting their "top" positions may disagree with you about how silly it is.
My apologies for the pronoun, perhaps making their preference known would be helpful in avoiding mistakes in the comments in the future.
@@nancytoothaker3224 Yes lots of historians around because history is an active and important field we need to not leave behind. That's like gatekeeping the title scientist for only people who work at NASA and other agencies and those publishing articles while forgetting about everyone who works in labs, contributes research, and keeps the field working. The top positions in history rely on everyone to keep the field alive and growing, weird for you to gatekeep it considering you have not revealed you are ACTUALLY in the history field. Your opinion means nothing to me and the potential gatekeeping of MY field is cringe.
@@TinyGhosty 😆
**DingDingDing** I win! I bet that your response would include crying about gatekeeping! At least you're predictable. No one's keeping you from engaging in your interests, from enjoying the fruits of others labor and using it to further your knowledge or from claiming that you are a history buff. And the scientists at NASA have formal educations in their fields, I'm pretty sure you can't just call yourself a rocket engineer.
You want to be an armchair historian? Good for you. Just don't pretend to have accumulated the credentials and education of actual historians, be honest with people and say so. I see that you require my occupation to be in the history field before I can express an opinion, how very strange. Sounds almost like gatekeeping 😆
It's also strange that you take the time, in a very long response, to make sure and say that my opinion means nothing to you. Really? Doesn't seem like you're being quite honest there, after taking the time to try and rebut me. Seems like my opinion struck a nerve actually.
Oh, Happy Pride month.
im not american so i came to know about her thanks to the ghoul boys lmao so after watching the ghost files' hull house ep i looked her up and i was blown away by her life-work - she was, and still is, a fascinating figure! and to learn she was one of us is even cooler so thank you for making this video!
This is so wonderful. I’m choked up. It’s funny because I taught Sociology in high school in Texas for over a decade. We covered Hull House and Jane Addams, but of course, the queer history wasn’t included in the textbooks. Wonderful video, as always, I learn so much. Take care ❤
I know it's a long shot, but my mom is a contributor on Find A Grave. She's documented thousands of people on there. She may be able to help you find some of those you are looking for or know who to ask to help you find them. She has worked with other contributors and family members from all over, looking for people. It amazes me what all she has been able to dig up so that people aren't forgotten.
I can not express how I happy I was to see this video. Because I spent almost a semester study Jane Addams for a US History project and I was fascinated with her. A thousand times thank you for making this video
I also studied her for a history project, mine was for my college honors program. I loved how I chose to study a Sapphic just by chance. I did find it kinda frustrating the book dismissed the Sapphic-nes of her relationships with a "we will never know if she had sex with women" kinda mentality.
There is a little story I would like to post here about HULL HOUSE a story my mother told me when I was little. My mother had a painting done when she was a girl called THE LITTLE IRISH GIRL. The painting hung in Hull House for years later my father met the artist Shirley Friend and he bought the painting from her as a anniversary present for my mother also a trip to Ireland for the whole family. It was a fun trip till we got to Waterford and my mother suffered a massive stroke. When she was able to fly home with my father she went straight in the hospital my father showed her the painting and with my mothers stroke she could only say yes or no but she saw the painting for the first time since she had the painting done and whispered "That's me".
Excellent episode, Kaz! I remember studying Jane Addams in college, almost 40 years ago, and never learned anything about her personal relationships. Thanks for sharing this amazing side of Jane with us!
The Ryan narration impression made me laugh so hard I woke the cat up from his nap lmao
So excited to see this! We were just talking about Jane Addams in my labor history class this summer. An amazing woman, I'm glad to that her Sapphic identity is celebrated as being a part of who she was!
I love that some people think you are making everything gay rather than everything being gay and you just pointing it out with well researched videos! I hope you have a wonderful day!
Kaz whipping out the pointer and chastising ther trolls was amazing.
I flinched a bit when you untelescoped the pointer. "Admired the curve of the devil's tail" I know people like that.
Hi, just wanted to say that you're one of my favorite UA-camrs. Not only do you pick topics I am super interested in, i really love your writing and research! Engaging and handled respectfully, insightfully, critically. We need more lesbian historians and more historians like you. I hope you keep it up as long as it brings you joy, i really appreciate what you do!
12:41 A long ago friend once told me how much pressure museums are under to keep up dumb legends. Especially anything even slightly uncanny. It sadly works 🤨.
Also she truly was a glorious bad ass.
Okay your Ryan Begara impersonation is so spot on it is sending me
I'm happy crying about the love between Mary and Jane.
I grew up in Cedarville and heard about Jane my whole life, over and over. She was the ONE THING that little village had. I went past the house she grew up in on the bus every morning for years and years. I never knew she was sapphic. This is completely left out of the history I was taught despite the reverance for her. So imagine my queer delight seeing this pop up!
Keep doing what you're doing. It's so important. We both know it isn't a mistake that this doesn't get talked about, and I hope this comes up in the searches for all the kids who have to write the same papers I did back then from here on out.
2:16 you told people to fuck off in the most elegant way possible
Never stop doing the Ryan voice it is amazing
Kaz’s list at 2:41 is not a list of suggestions. They are instructions. You are required to complete those steps in exactly that order
I aspire to live a life as noble and courageous as Jane's, and to have a love like the one Jane shared with Mary.
ahhh!! talking about shane and ryan all my favourite creators together
I love hearing about love stories. I love love. The letters are so beautiful. If someone wrote anything remotely like that to me I would be on my knees.
Gosh this is so real. Love truly is such a powerful thing. I love writing letters and poems, but sadly lack a person I can devote them to... It's kind of funny how there's many people who would love receiving them and many who would love to write them, yet we never find each other. I hope you'll someday hold a letter full of adoration and heart grasping words with your own hands :)
"Why did you let people believe it?" they asked the poor woman vehemently trying to convince people otherwise.... Good lord.
I started watching this after a marathon of Watcher content, not realizing the topic had overlap, and I was so confused and amused that they followed me into this video, too. :P
I was a recipient of
The Jane Adam’s Hull House
After care program!
Happy pride eveyrone!!!! Im so happy to learn more queer history from you Kaz, its really inspiring. I hope you have a great month!!! 💗💗❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍💖💓
😂 I only just came out as bi always wanted to learn more bout pride history but didn't want to get caught
As a European, I'd never heard of Jane Addams, so thank you for this wonderfully informative video! I always await your uploads eagerly because I love the way you present history, and your research is always brilliant. I hope you manage to find Mary's grave one day, and I'm off to watch the Wayfair series as that sounds super interesting too
"We can't say if they were lesbians or not since we don't know if they had sex"
Is that the next iteration of "AND THEY WERE ROOMMATES"?
As an historian myself I really love your dedication to research and nuance! Also opens my eyes to look more into queer history. A straight 54 yo cis man, I sure missed out on that for far too long ...
I played Jane Addams in my class’ WW1 simulation, so I am very excited to find out that she was also queer like me!!! My teacher told me she is her favorite person from this time period and I can see why.
I also beat Teddy Roosevelt up in the sim (metaphorically) so I hope the ghost of Jane Addams is proud of that
Yes! Preach!! Romantic attraction is also queerness. I am ace and am romantically attracted to any gender. Thank you, Kaz! I also know the ace lesbian community is strong. Rowan Ellis comes to mind 💜
edit: Not bringing up ace people for the topic of Jane Addams specifically, but just responding to sexual activity not being essential to queerness.
i'm a social work student and i learned about jane addams & the hull house in class! i had no clue she was sapphic. i love her even more now
I graduated from Rockford college, now called Rockford University. It used to be Rockford Seminary. It keeps her legacy alive and continues to bring in controversial activists and even plays. I loved it there!
those letters are the sweetest thing I've ever heard. I love their love ❤❤❤
About the open preservation of their relationship, Kaz, I completely get you. As a sapphic person, I’d be balling my eyes out if I went to that museum for that reason.
I know a bit about Jane Addams through a somewhat local historical house dedicated to preserving the legacy of Jessie Binford, who worked close with Addams at Hull House before returning to Iowa.
That devil baby prank was pretty impressive. X)
It is truly a blessing when one can spend 40 years of life with someone you love so dearly, may we all be so lucky and all do our best to make the world around us even just a tiny little bit better every day ❤
So excited for your episodes of A Style is Born! I love Ariel’s content and really enjoyed her episodes on the wayfair channel. You’re a perfect successor for season 2!
We feel fortunate to have found Kaz to carry on the torch for Ariel. We love home design, and we're humbled by the deep knowledge Kaz brings to the table and their ability to uncover a history we never knew existed. Stay tuned for more episodes of A Style Is Born!
Sorry got excited at your mention of the Ghoul Boys!!!! 🥰
Thanks! As an asexual, I'm glad to hear you say it!
I’m someone who doesn’t care at all about burials, my burial or my loved one burials. But I don’t know why, I care a lot queer stranger couples’ burials.
I learned a little bit about Jane and Hull House in high school so it's very cool to learn more about her and her queerness. It really is amazing that we still have her letters to Mary even if there's so much more about their relationship that has been lost
I actually learned about Jane Addams in my American history course in college, but I didn’t remember as much as I would have liked so I’m so grateful you made this video since it’s a great refresher on what she did and who she was (but also an angle I didn’t learn about).
I'm from Chicago and I've read Studs Terkel. I learned to swim at a Jane Adams Center. It was kinda like the Y. Even FUNNER FACT When I got my bachelor's in printmaking at Northeastern IL university the stone blocks we used for lithography were from the ORIGINAL Jane Adams center, it had a printing studio. some of them still had *ghost images of ads for stuff like baking powder from the early 1900s! ( faded aftermarks on the stone)
I was nodding in agreement at @ 2:20 but then you took out the pointer and the list... ICONIC !!! I yelled, scaring my cat. XD
Thank you for affirming that sex isn't required to be a lesbian or to have valid sapphic/queer desire. I will die on this hill!
Again, you are the goddess of sources. This was lovely. I only cried a little.
Can't wait to watch this while I make dinner. Love learning about queer history and icons from you Kaz! Happy pride! ❤😊
Thank you so much for this video ❤ I am a Gay man from Germany and especially Janes Letters to Mary make me think about how much i miss and love my husband who lives in Buffalo NY... their Lovestory is truly inspiring and i hope that i too will have such a long and loving life full of love on the side of my beloved husband as well. Happy pride month to you Kaz
❤🧡💚💙💜
Omg this serotonin boost- I needed this.
Edit: Kaz, as an enby ur outfits give me the best version of enby envy XDD
I’ve lived in Chicago for the past 3 years and I am now going to grad school at UIC. I have heard Jane’s name many times before but had no idea about her history. What an amazing woman! Thank you so much for sharing 💕
Also i just want to say thank you for putting your sources, because i can read original materials that i wouldn't find otherwise.
I teared up during the letter bits, it was so sweet 🥲✨❤
Kaz, I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you do. Your videos have helped my coming out and self acceptance journey more than you can know. And to see the rich history I now get to participate in is such a great gift. These videos give me a sense of legacy, community, and validity. I know you will most likely never see this comment, but in case you do, please know that you are doing life-changing work and there are so many people all over the world whose minds and hearts you are touching and affirming. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU ❤
Happy Pride! I love Jane Addams! As a Chicagoan both her life and the ghost stories are something I grew up with and loved learning about. 😊
Thanks for posting this video! I lived in Chicago a few years and served as a social worker, teacher and human rights activist in the US before moving to Southeast Asia in 2013. I appreciate your work. Best HAPPY PRIDE wishes from Cambodia.
Went to a really boring training on Jane Adams today and this video was not only infinitely more entertaining, it was infinitely more informative! Thank you for posting this. The work it must have taken boggles my mind. Thank you!
I’ve never been brought to tears by a youtube video. Their love was so pure and beautiful 🫶🏼
i’m obsessed w you n your content pls never stop doing what youre doing