(2)Maklumat penting. Dalam Hadis Shahih Bukhari,nombor 6475,Nabi Muhammad SAW bersabda;"Kenabian tidak ada lagi selain berita gembira,"para sahabat bertanya;'apa maksud kabar gembira?'.Nabi Muhammad SAW menjawab;"mimpi yang baik."
Regarding his last statement, I think it would be interesting to answer: "what is it now in the middle eastern countries that don't represent Islamic values?"
Me too. Why would I bother going thro with the democratic system he's presenting. The rulers of gulf countries are doing fantastic job. Safety and economic prosperity
@@huntsman2877 Because they have wealth and a very population to govern. In an Islamic state, are they going to share that wealth ? Are the gulf people willing to share their cash and lands with let's say, the Rohingyas ?
@@jamieammar6131 really! You think they're successful only because of the money! Bahrain isn't wealthy. Oman as well. Dubai doesn't have oil. Jordan and Morocco are poor. But they're doing waaaayyy better than next door countries ruled by "democracy." Talking of wealth. Iraq is just as wealthy as Saudi, and was way advanced in everything. Then they rebelled against the king and they're lost since then.
(2)Maklumat penting. Dalam Shahih Sunan Nasai Nombor 1108 dan Shahih Sunan Ibn Majah Nombor 1588; "Nabi Muhammad SAW suatu saat menyingkap tirai,dan kepalanya dililit (diperban) dengan kain karena sakit,yang akhirnya menyebabkan beliau meninggal dunia.Lalu Nabi Muhammad SAW bersabda:'Ya ALLAH,telah kusampaikan (Beliau mengulanginya 3x),sesungguhnya tidak tersisa lagi kabar kenabian kecuali mimpi yang benar,yakni mimpi yang dilihat seorang muslim atau diperlihatkan kepada seorang hamba.'
Beautifully said, people don't dream enough of a better future so noone works for it anymore we take how things are as they will be but that is just false, we are too engrossed with the profits of today to even consider which path leads to a better tomorrow. Most of us don't fight to reach tomorrow so we should spend that time not to reach the day after but to make tomorrow a better day to live in, all while facing the challenges each day at a time while keeping an eye on carefully updated benchmarks like resource availability so that we don't overdraft for our standards of living those of our children. Without forgetting to stop and smell the roses along the way.
Soooo…. Dr was basically describing a western state…..constitution, elected government, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, acceptance of art, music and alcohol. Sounds good but how do you quell the hard liners if the democratic Islamic party came to power?
In Indonesia we had an era where we were a Parliamentary democracy, and the Islamic Masyumi party had the premiership in quite a few times. That being said, they formed a coalition with the socialist party, christian party, and catholic party, which reflects the sort of pragmatic democracy that I believe the Doctor here yearns for.
@@peterhwang352 So I guess christian and catholic parties aren't doing a good job in the coalition, since they are minorities? Or they just ignore that, as long as it's not them being persecuted? Either way it's damn shame, and very un-christian and un-catholic.
@@peterhwang352 severe is an overexaggeration, it implies that there is no mobility for non Muslims in Indonesia which is simply not true. I'm not denying that incidences of religious intolerance are non existent, unfortunately they still exist, but to infer the status of non Muslims based on singular incidences is a bit of a reach. It's not rare to find Mosques, Churches, and Temples sharing the same walls for example. Also not rare are the number of non-muslim students enrolled in schools run by Islamic organizations. Even some parties considered in the west to be "Islamist" have non-muslim members in their upper ranks. And I know you're gonna bring up Aceh, so I implore you to look up videos of Hindus celebrating their religious day in public and not being punished by the authorities for doing so. Come here and see for yourself, brother, so long as you keep an open mind and an open heart.
@@mapk1516 Sorry, just to clarify - we should not seek out conflict, but Christians must proclaim Christ as God. It is challenging to do this in any society but especially so in a Muslim one.
@@peterhwang352 so true! Muslim practice taqiyya, but the goal is to make everyone Muslim at the end that is the real agenda, I came from Muslim countries in Middle East, don’t trust that man after what we go through in Muslim dominance laws and rules!!!
110% agree with everthing what Dr Tareq says, especially the importance of - 1) Media 2) Education. 3) the free will of non muslims living in an islamic state and also how he explained about art halal / haram.
In my view there should not be such thing as Islamic party. But rather there could be political parties in Islamic state commensurate with the Islamic values but reflecting a range of Islamic values
If anyone has the hadith about the winged horse on a curtain, please let me know. Currently the statement about the art and winged horse curtain is questionable. I have looked through all 9 volumes of sahih Al-Bukhari and haven't found a narration that the curtains were left on. In fact, in Sahih Al-Bukhari, there is no mention of a 'winged horse curtain'. Only curtains with pictures on it. All of which the prophet ﷺ ordered to have removed as the images distract him in his solaah (like a photographic memory type of situation, I'm assuming). There is a hadith in Sahih Muslim however that does mention the curtain with winged horse and this too the prophet ﷺ ordered to have it removed. So, I'm not so sure what Dr Tarek is referring to here.
So, the ideal islamic state is a secular democracy. We already have those. Except he wants different laws for the different religious groups and the lady seems to dream of state-controlled media. Which is not democratic. But good to know.
in Ali ibn Abu Tālib's *letter to Malik aL-Ashtar, within the content of that letter, there is a entire constitution/manifesto. *Ali ibn Abu Tālib's letter to Malik aL-Ashtar can be found in the collection of Ali ibn Abu Tālib's sermons called Nahjul BaLāgha.
He doesn't mean supporting false media i.e Fox etc. As I understood he means use Media as the pathway to spread the msg and Islam and not spend money in building more n more masjids.
Sometimes people are considered crazy or heretics in their era and then centuries later they become celebrated. I can see many people disagreeing with him now but in the future Islamic states will function the way this man is describing.
I love listening to Dr Suwaidan, we must admit he does have some convoluted ideas too. His fusion of a modern democratic Islamic party as a conduit to establishing a pristine Islamic State is far fetched. He occasionally quotes weak Hadith too.
He said the highest type of dawah is establishing an Islamic state no offence to the sheikh but he’s incorrect with this. The greatest type of dawah is what the prophets and messengers came with is calling to Tawheed ? The prophet Mohammed AS came with tawheed for 13 years the ummah needs to be nourished with tawheed first
@@Think_pls so what if they CLAIM so! If someone claim that their way is the prophet's puh way, you simply check it out to confirm. Not simply take their words for it, don't rent your brain to others.
His dream state already exists - it’s called Turkey. That is effectively the country he has described. Unfortunately, the respected Sheikh has a warped understanding of what an Islamic state is. Islam didn’t come to adapt to society, it came to adapt society to Islam. The orientalist understanding of anything that isn’t western-style democracy is automatically labelled a dictatorship or tyranny. Sadly, we find that this has rubbed off on the sheikh too. We must stop fetishising democracies and western political models. The world isn’t coming towards democracy - it is in fact moving away from it and crying out for fresh alternatives. The ummah has a golden opportunity to present our uncompromised message in the global political arena and challenge the western world order. Not to create a cosmetic shell of Islam that dilutes our deen and lets allows enemies to undermine it. May Allah guide the sheikh and guide us all.
"The world has changed, muslims have changed and islam has... " he almost said islam has changed. Also how can an Islamic state have an atheist ruling party? So what will they rule by? If they don't even believe in Allah how can they rule with the law of Allah and implement the shariah? I don't see how that's supposed to work.
Great insights from the esteemed Dr.Tariq but I believe the islamic constitution would forbid having a non-islamic leader according to sharia, so what's the point of democracy here, it's quite the loose end in his vision with all due respect.
Depends how much such an Islamic state would focus on having good relations with the western world. In the best case, it would look like Turkey or UAE, in the mediocre case, like Afghanistan or Somalia, in the worst case, like the 1st caliphate after death of Muhammad.
5:56 amazing concept this person is fed up with. As far as leadership is concerned that too under the rulings of quran and sunnah. How a non Muslim be a leader who neither believes in Allah, Quran nor in Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Even if Dr suwaidan thinks that in his such a theological state a constitution will be framed within the framework of Quran and sunnah and by his understanding will let all parties to give bayyah upon the constitution book. Doesn't it seem silly that a party who accepts a book only to rule the country or the world while ignoring the source of that constitution that is framed. As per my knowledge as a little student of islam, his concept is good at some instances and no one has the right to blame his intentions but the muslims have other good options as well than Dr Tareq Al-Shwaidan, I can quote like Syed Qutb, Dr Iqbal, Molana Maududi, Dr. Israr. As i have a gone through this topic upto little depth what i could understood was that an islamic state which every muslim has a future dream in their lives should have a one party system where islam has to be the main subject on the state level. A well equipped socio-politico-economic system based on Allah's guidance. If the ruling party will be more dominant to any particular Fiqh or a Sect then that could never be an islamic state in the real sense, infact that will be the kingship which is disliked by the prophet Muhammad pbuh by himself. So the role model for this theological state is the state of madina during prophet Muhammad pbuh rule and after that the Rashidun Caliphate. No other system has any value in islam which do resemble any system other than the above mentioned two ideas. Yes as he mentioned the world has evolved very much, so for this the door of IJTIHAD is always open for the Caliph. I've read a book by Dr Israr Ahmed a Pakistani theologian philosopher and a medical Doctor named "The islamic renaissance A real task ahead" go through it. Wallah u alam
Do agree, i also do believe , democracy is the best system availaible that really islamic, the first of tour khalifa are acrually using the democracy in very simple way, imagine at that time there is no democracy country only monarchy, and Islam was starting to fall when monarchy applied, starting in era of ummaya , wawallahu alam
There are already 3 Islamic republics in the world. Pakistan, Iran and Mauritania. We can see clearly how that works. Then there was briefly an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Daesh. We also know how that worked. Finally, there is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. No clear superiority of ideas here, to say the least. So far no existing Islamic states come even close to what is stated in this video.
Wait, I remember there was a mosque somewhere in the middle east with a heaven and naked women mosaics on the walls, would that kind of art be called indecent by today's muslims?
There is no islamic state... the noble prophet called his seat of goverment Madina... meaning a civil society with diversity... if the meaning of islamic state that it should be only be populated with Muslims then Mecca should be an islamic state but Mecca is Qaria and the people living there are all Muslims contrary to Madina where jews, christians, Sabaens and pagans live together side by side... thats mercy thats tolerance of a civil society established Muhammad and thats should be the model of all Muslim countries...
Dear Dr Tariq, with all due respect, there is not a single country in the whole muslim or Arab world that can be a model, even at small scale with lots of resources (UAE, etc..) Muslim countries do not lead by example, unfortunately
This guy is clever but some of his view are unacceptable. Based on his western ideology of multi party democracy. Saying islamic state will have multi party and who ever win govern, so to say islamic state governed by Kafir Khalifa or non muslim. Remember khalifa of umma is the imam of muslims and his ruling binding to all. Better to stay quite sometime rather then confusing Muslims.
Dear sister/ brother What do you mean by Islamic state. A state Islamic or not, ? Does it make a difference, Dear, state is made by people to serve them, if it doesn't, there's no point to build one, it is not ordained by Allah swt
At about 1:47, “We know Muslims led the world in civilization and we trained the world in all areas of life…” A bold statement. Reference please? I know of no religion, society, people, or civilization that ever led the whole world, much less trained it in all areas of life.
So he's talking about living in a Democracy then. Can you provide any examples of Islam producing ideas and adopting/adapting to the needs of the ever changing world?
@jj I can't prove my religion or that there is a God. That is out of my limits as a human. But if you are curious, I can encourage you to call out to God and ask Him to reveal himself to you. (in sincerity). Matthew 7:7: “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you''. Psalm 27:7-12: "Hear, O Lord, when I cry with my voice, And be gracious to me and answer me. When You said, “Seek My face,” my heart said to You, “Your face, O Lord, I shall seek.” God wants us to earnestly seek him. Psalm 34:4-5, 8 I sought the LORD, and He answered me and delivered me from all my fears''.
I'm a Muslim but I hope my country (Egypt) would never be an Islamic state! Any state should not have any religion! I believe that any religion absolutely oppose any other religions: So it's impossible for a state to be religious and at the same time there might be democracy!!
i used to think the same way as you, but this is wrong, if you support secularism then in part you're opposing the legislation of the quran which was represented through the governance of the prophet (saw). with all due respect you havent truly become muslim until you accept that the shariah is the best way, and how can you say as a muslim we oppose other religions, you not supporting something doesnt mean you're outwardly opposing it.
That's actually not true, in fact religious freedom is suppressed in countries like France where women are forced to take off their headscarves. And where does democracy fit into this scenario? The problem here is that when any type of ideology whether it be religious or secular becomes radical then no rhetorics such as democracy will save you because the moderation is not an objective at all. That is how the world functions when they go extreme, which is why a moderation is required to have more groups aligned with that state than only encompassing the beliefs of one group over the other. So in that case nothing is wrong with religious state as long as it's done moderately and that is what the guest is stressing in this interview as well. Hence, I wouldn't recommend seeing the world in black and white because history shows that religious states can be more tolerant and in harmony while so called democratic countries are oppressing the heck out of people if they dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative. Just look at the situation in Europe and North America now, how Russians are treated and how their assets are frozen with the potential stealing in the name of the EU. Or even so called p/and/emic which became a great scam too in human history as the whole planet was manipulated into extreme. People today live in godless states where they attach themselves to this world thanks to secularism thus they are afraid to die. The more people have fear from death, the more irrational decisions will be made in such places. Due to this exact reason I would rather have a religious state that operates by God given morals and principles than man made ones that is concerned only with wordly matters and that can change with time as they desire. I myself have seen this especially among youth that have suicidal moods. Humans are more than just physical agents on this earth, and until we recognize our ultimate purpose in this life we will be seduced with all sorts of temptations in this world that will force us forget about our Creator to whom we will all eventually return.
@@-bodna usually young people who were superficially exposed to the western mindset tend to believe the things that commentator wrote. When you live there long enough, observe geopolitical events in the meantime you start seeing the reality in case you are a reflexive person. So there is a hope that this person might change his views when he grows older, for now we can only pray for people to open their hearts and minds🙏🏻
@@jenniraisovna5698 true, op did say they lived in egypt, when you live somewhere like the uk for long enough you realise how bad the government actually is and how the values proported by the media affect so many people, like how they're doing with qatar, despite the fact that an estimated 30,000+ people are going to die in the uk as a result of cold houses and private companies are still charging exorbitant prices
@@-bodna oh yes, don't get me started on geopolitics 😄 I am baffled at all the hypocrisy that the Collective West is executing against Qatar and Russia lately, what a nonsensical world we live in. I just wish that actually Iran and the Sunni world united to beat this enemy, by dividing ourselves we serve them without realizing it. There is a little hope in me that the Middle East will reassess their attitude toward each other after world cup and protest challenges throughout. My heart and mind still yearns for utopia but sensibly I understand humans are always seeking trouble so no systems will live in harmony for too long. At least we can work on ourselves and improve to the best of our ability with God's help and mercy🤲
This ignorant person whom you presented on the grounds that he is a scholar, in fact, did not even study religion, but his specialty is physics. His only relationship with religion is that he used to read some religious stories like the person who tells bedtime stories to children.
He has a good knowledge on science and the arabic langauge and yes he has studied Islam. He is giving his political views here and if you don't like it, tell us where he is wrong.
Well said. Pathetic. This chanel as a whole including Dr Shabir him self are so called liberal muslims. Everything done to please western life. And try to prove that Islam has no problem with issue like lgbt and so on. Very problematic
All that he is saying does not conform with Islamic teaching then why "Islamic state"? Again the system of government he is explaining does not differ from other states. His ideas will not survive
Assalamualaikum, Sheikh I also believe that one day Muslims will rule the whole world but the things that Allah has forbidden is every human the Qur'an has sent for not only Muslims but also for Whole human kind And also the thing is no non muslim is allowed to be a khalif of our Islamic State everything which Allah has forbidden in Quran also forbidden for Every human being. Isa AS himself will show us how to rule I respect you but some of the things you told are not right in the constitution of our Islamic State
I don't know how to feel about what the sheikh is saying. He seems to be suggesting a UAE model where there are both secular and sharri laws for example drinking and parties in one part of the country and a more islamic lifestyle in the other . May allah give us the ability to understand.
His idea of this so called state is not correct. We cannot adopt democracy as an ideology for the state. Even western nations have not adopted democracy. Having the ability to vote is different from democracy. The sheikh is not correct here
@@runninginsept Yes it is haram. The reason why is due to definition and also practical implementation. By Definition, Democracy means Demos Kratos which is greek for People Rule. The idea being marketed across the world is that "Majority rules". For example, if in a country that implements Democracy, the majority agree that women should receive less pay than men in the workforce, then that rule takes effect. Another example, if the majority agrees that everyone is allowed to walk around naked, then that law would be in effect. You can take that down a rabbit hole and see the outcomes not only in theory but also in practice. But also in practice, it is never really "majority" rules. It is "those that have the power, money and influence" will make the rules. That is how so-called democracies run today. Given all that, you can see how injustice can be rampent, and in effect this is what we have in the world today. Islam, on the other hand says "Allah the Sovereign rules", meaning that the divine laws from the Quran and Sunnah are what constitute the ruling body of laws in the society, not the so-called majority. The reason for this is that if you believe in a single Creator who has created the entire universe with such precision (planets, stars, orbits, magnetic fields, etc) and also created us, then you must be able to see that that same creator would also know how we should govern ourselves. And indeed the Creator does. That is why throughout time He sent messengers and prophets to many nations and tribes to bring them back onto the right path. And just as every prophet/messenger came with their own message for a certain people at a certain time, for a certain period of time, it was the FINAL messenger (i.e. Prophet Muhammad) who came with the final message for all of humanity (not just a specific nation), and for all time. Consider this as different operating systems (i.e. previous versions of windows) that were developed and sent to different people throughout history culminating in the final one (current version of windows), the Qur'an (the theory) and the Hadith (examples from the prophet Muhammad's time of how he governed and ruled in a just Islamic state)....This is the difference between Islam and Democracy. Also Democracy is a greek concept. Concepts and ideologies that do not emanate from the Islamic body of thinking should not be considered what would follow in our daily lives as muslim. We were given the best example in the Prophet Muhammad, and we simply need to implement it the same way he did....
The closest country to an the Islamic state is Canada according to him Subhanallah a kuffar state is better than the likes of Saudi even they have problems themselves they are a Muslim state which calls to tawheed we have many Muslim countries yes they do have issues but can be considered the closest to an Islamic state ? He is happy with the kuffar subhanallah may Allah guide him
It's all nice and UK has similar principles already , and the drinking out side in public on the street is illegal anyway , my question is some people would be oppressed in a Islamic state , you would not allow gay rights and marriage , so not everyone would have there freedom to be who they want and to marry who they want , see in the UK all religions are welcome with them being able to have there churches, and have discrimination laws to protect them , different races of people , different sexualities here, and that's why I love my country because of this
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 Besides Muhammad only the Rashidun caliphs can be considered rightly guided and even those caliphs did not receive direct guidance from God.
Comments like this make it clear that people are immature to understand the message that the guest is trying to convey. We are operating by the western concepts of democracy and pluralism that have malleable features in nature hence change over time therefore will not be easily applicable to our generation. We have to understand the essence first before we jump into conclusions that theocracy and democracy are irreconcilable.
With all due respect and with my modest knowledge, I disagree with Dr. Suwaida about his dream of an Islamic State. Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh) said " خلافه على منهاج النبوه"، meaning Kelaheh according to the method of prophethood.
You have no idea why they wa t to establish one Islamic state in one of the wester countries.. like Canada England Germany ! Because it is will easy to hold USA feet!
Totally empty words. Advocating the people who is not Muslim and is even atheist to be part of Islamic ruling ,Islamic Suura is nothing but a Kafir mindset
(2)Maklumat penting.
Dalam Hadis Shahih Bukhari,nombor 6475,Nabi Muhammad SAW bersabda;"Kenabian tidak ada lagi selain berita gembira,"para sahabat bertanya;'apa maksud kabar gembira?'.Nabi Muhammad SAW menjawab;"mimpi yang baik."
Regarding his last statement, I think it would be interesting to answer: "what is it now in the middle eastern countries that don't represent Islamic values?"
He was talking about it for the 18 minutes...
Me too. Why would I bother going thro with the democratic system he's presenting. The rulers of gulf countries are doing fantastic job. Safety and economic prosperity
@@huntsman2877 Because they have wealth and a very population to govern. In an Islamic state, are they going to share that wealth ? Are the gulf people willing to share their cash and lands with let's say, the Rohingyas ?
Freedom of thought and expression the most.
@@jamieammar6131 really! You think they're successful only because of the money!
Bahrain isn't wealthy. Oman as well. Dubai doesn't have oil. Jordan and Morocco are poor. But they're doing waaaayyy better than next door countries ruled by "democracy."
Talking of wealth. Iraq is just as wealthy as Saudi, and was way advanced in everything. Then they rebelled against the king and they're lost since then.
(2)Maklumat penting.
Dalam Shahih Sunan Nasai Nombor 1108 dan Shahih Sunan Ibn Majah Nombor 1588;
"Nabi Muhammad SAW suatu saat menyingkap tirai,dan kepalanya dililit (diperban) dengan kain karena sakit,yang akhirnya menyebabkan beliau meninggal dunia.Lalu Nabi Muhammad SAW bersabda:'Ya ALLAH,telah kusampaikan (Beliau mengulanginya 3x),sesungguhnya tidak tersisa lagi kabar kenabian kecuali mimpi yang benar,yakni mimpi yang dilihat seorang muslim atau diperlihatkan kepada seorang hamba.'
Beautifully said, people don't dream enough of a better future so noone works for it anymore we take how things are as they will be but that is just false, we are too engrossed with the profits of today to even consider which path leads to a better tomorrow. Most of us don't fight to reach tomorrow so we should spend that time not to reach the day after but to make tomorrow a better day to live in, all while facing the challenges each day at a time while keeping an eye on carefully updated benchmarks like resource availability so that we don't overdraft for our standards of living those of our children. Without forgetting to stop and smell the roses along the way.
Soooo…. Dr was basically describing a western state…..constitution, elected government, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, acceptance of art, music and alcohol. Sounds good but how do you quell the hard liners if the democratic Islamic party came to power?
That's what I took from this. Western Democracy just with represtation by large Islamic political parties . . .
In Indonesia we had an era where we were a Parliamentary democracy, and the Islamic Masyumi party had the premiership in quite a few times. That being said, they formed a coalition with the socialist party, christian party, and catholic party, which reflects the sort of pragmatic democracy that I believe the Doctor here yearns for.
Persecution of other religions is still severe in Indonesia.
@@peterhwang352 So I guess christian and catholic parties aren't doing a good job in the coalition, since they are minorities? Or they just ignore that, as long as it's not them being persecuted? Either way it's damn shame, and very un-christian and un-catholic.
@@peterhwang352 severe is an overexaggeration, it implies that there is no mobility for non Muslims in Indonesia which is simply not true. I'm not denying that incidences of religious intolerance are non existent, unfortunately they still exist, but to infer the status of non Muslims based on singular incidences is a bit of a reach. It's not rare to find Mosques, Churches, and Temples sharing the same walls for example. Also not rare are the number of non-muslim students enrolled in schools run by Islamic organizations. Even some parties considered in the west to be "Islamist" have non-muslim members in their upper ranks.
And I know you're gonna bring up Aceh, so I implore you to look up videos of Hindus celebrating their religious day in public and not being punished by the authorities for doing so. Come here and see for yourself, brother, so long as you keep an open mind and an open heart.
@@mapk1516 Sorry, just to clarify - we should not seek out conflict, but Christians must proclaim Christ as God. It is challenging to do this in any society but especially so in a Muslim one.
@@peterhwang352 so true!
Muslim practice taqiyya, but the goal is to make everyone Muslim at the end that is the real agenda, I came from Muslim countries in Middle East, don’t trust that man after what we go through in Muslim dominance laws and rules!!!
110% agree with everthing what Dr Tareq says, especially the importance of -
1) Media
2) Education.
3) the free will of non muslims living in an islamic state and also how he explained about art halal / haram.
In my view there should not be such thing as Islamic party. But rather there could be political parties in Islamic state commensurate with the Islamic values but reflecting a range of Islamic values
I really love this guy, ideas are always brilliant
If anyone has the hadith about the winged horse on a curtain, please let me know.
Currently the statement about the art and winged horse curtain is questionable. I have looked through all 9 volumes of sahih Al-Bukhari and haven't found a narration that the curtains were left on. In fact, in Sahih Al-Bukhari, there is no mention of a 'winged horse curtain'. Only curtains with pictures on it. All of which the prophet ﷺ ordered to have removed as the images distract him in his solaah (like a photographic memory type of situation, I'm assuming).
There is a hadith in Sahih Muslim however that does mention the curtain with winged horse and this too the prophet ﷺ ordered to have it removed.
So, I'm not so sure what Dr Tarek is referring to here.
Something is wrong with him. He seems like CIA
So, the ideal islamic state is a secular democracy. We already have those. Except he wants different laws for the different religious groups and the lady seems to dream of state-controlled media. Which is not democratic. But good to know.
in Ali ibn Abu Tālib's *letter to Malik aL-Ashtar, within the content of that letter, there is a entire constitution/manifesto.
*Ali ibn Abu Tālib's letter to Malik aL-Ashtar can be found in the collection of Ali ibn Abu Tālib's sermons called Nahjul BaLāgha.
What is the difference between what Dr. Tareq Al-Suwaidan is promoting and what Türkiye is based on?
Turkey is a kufr state based on secular democratic laws and legislation
"supporting media is more important than building masjid" - Guy sounds like CIA
Yeah. He does.
In the first few minutes I figured something was wrong with him. He put democracy above the Caliphate
Because you’re uneducated. Media can convert millions of people to Islam. Masjid is local only.
He doesn't mean supporting false media i.e Fox etc. As I understood he means use Media as the pathway to spread the msg and Islam and not spend money in building more n more masjids.
Sometimes people are considered crazy or heretics in their era and then centuries later they become celebrated. I can see many people disagreeing with him now but in the future Islamic states will
function the way this man is describing.
So when do you think Hitler will be celebrated?
@@bngr_bngr he’s already celebrated among some people
What's wrong with the way Islamic states function today? In anther word, what his way gonna add to the ummah, he's basically offering democracy.
What he supposedly wants is a secular democracy. We have already have those. Dont need Islam for that.
Dr. Tarek Al-Suwaidān, I make du'a to meet you one day. Inshaa-Allāh.
I love listening to Dr Suwaidan, we must admit he does have some convoluted ideas too. His fusion of a modern democratic Islamic party as a conduit to establishing a pristine Islamic State is far fetched. He occasionally quotes weak Hadith too.
Beautiful ‼️
He said the highest type of dawah is establishing an Islamic state no offence to the sheikh but he’s incorrect with this. The greatest type of dawah is what the prophets and messengers came with is calling to Tawheed ? The prophet Mohammed AS came with tawheed for 13 years the ummah needs to be nourished with tawheed first
Only time will tell.. you will see it soon...
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The channel name is "let the quran speak", yet, they are preaching their opinions and desires 😜
Everyone had there own interpretation of the Quran
Respect everyone's interpretation
@@Think_pls nope, I only respect the correct interpretation. That lines with the prophet puh, sahaba, and salaf.
Cheers
@@huntsman2877 that's what they all say
Don't you still get it
@@Think_pls so what if they CLAIM so!
If someone claim that their way is the prophet's puh way, you simply check it out to confirm. Not simply take their words for it, don't rent your brain to others.
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A very informative, even startling interview.
Mashaa Allah amazing discussion
ALLAH KNOWS BETTER THAN US...
His dream state already exists - it’s called Turkey.
That is effectively the country he has described. Unfortunately, the respected Sheikh has a warped understanding of what an Islamic state is.
Islam didn’t come to adapt to society, it came to adapt society to Islam.
The orientalist understanding of anything that isn’t western-style democracy is automatically labelled a dictatorship or tyranny. Sadly, we find that this has rubbed off on the sheikh too.
We must stop fetishising democracies and western political models. The world isn’t coming towards democracy - it is in fact moving away from it and crying out for fresh alternatives.
The ummah has a golden opportunity to present our uncompromised message in the global political arena and challenge the western world order. Not to create a cosmetic shell of Islam that dilutes our deen and lets allows enemies to undermine it.
May Allah guide the sheikh and guide us all.
"The world has changed, muslims have changed and islam has... " he almost said islam has changed. Also how can an Islamic state have an atheist ruling party? So what will they rule by? If they don't even believe in Allah how can they rule with the law of Allah and implement the shariah?
I don't see how that's supposed to work.
Great insights from the esteemed Dr.Tariq but I believe the islamic constitution would forbid having a non-islamic leader according to sharia, so what's the point of democracy here, it's quite the loose end in his vision with all due respect.
Because if he says, what he really wants, the Taqiya breaks down. What he really wants is a totalitarian theocracy.
Depends how much such an Islamic state would focus on having good relations with the western world. In the best case, it would look like Turkey or UAE, in the mediocre case, like Afghanistan or Somalia, in the worst case, like the 1st caliphate after death of Muhammad.
She is asking maths , physics questions to a history teacher....
A very interesting topic for discussion
Beautifully said 👏
Uff.... Shocking.
I am atheist but Islamic rules can fit in like marriage and no adultery no drink etc
5:56 amazing concept this person is fed up with.
As far as leadership is concerned that too under the rulings of quran and sunnah. How a non Muslim be a leader who neither believes in Allah, Quran nor in Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Even if Dr suwaidan thinks that in his such a theological state a constitution will be framed within the framework of Quran and sunnah and by his understanding will let all parties to give bayyah upon the constitution book. Doesn't it seem silly that a party who accepts a book only to rule the country or the world while ignoring the source of that constitution that is framed.
As per my knowledge as a little student of islam, his concept is good at some instances and no one has the right to blame his intentions but the muslims have other good options as well than Dr Tareq Al-Shwaidan, I can quote like Syed Qutb, Dr Iqbal, Molana Maududi, Dr. Israr. As i have a gone through this topic upto little depth what i could understood was that an islamic state which every muslim has a future dream in their lives should have a one party system where islam has to be the main subject on the state level. A well equipped socio-politico-economic system based on Allah's guidance. If the ruling party will be more dominant to any particular Fiqh or a Sect then that could never be an islamic state in the real sense, infact that will be the kingship which is disliked by the prophet Muhammad pbuh by himself. So the role model for this theological state is the state of madina during prophet Muhammad pbuh rule and after that the Rashidun Caliphate. No other system has any value in islam which do resemble any system other than the above mentioned two ideas.
Yes as he mentioned the world has evolved very much, so for this the door of IJTIHAD is always open for the Caliph.
I've read a book by Dr Israr Ahmed a Pakistani theologian philosopher and a medical Doctor named "The islamic renaissance A real task ahead" go through it.
Wallah u alam
Do agree, i also do believe , democracy is the best system availaible that really islamic, the first of tour khalifa are acrually using the democracy in very simple way, imagine at that time there is no democracy country only monarchy, and Islam was starting to fall when monarchy applied, starting in era of ummaya , wawallahu alam
There are already 3 Islamic republics in the world. Pakistan, Iran and Mauritania. We can see clearly how that works. Then there was briefly an Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Daesh. We also know how that worked. Finally, there is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. No clear superiority of ideas here, to say the least. So far no existing Islamic states come even close to what is stated in this video.
Like present day Afghanistan
The British science museum show women do not have half the intelligence of men contradictory Allah and the prophet 😕
Wait, I remember there was a mosque somewhere in the middle east with a heaven and naked women mosaics on the walls, would that kind of art be called indecent by today's muslims?
There is no islamic state... the noble prophet called his seat of goverment Madina... meaning a civil society with diversity... if the meaning of islamic state that it should be only be populated with Muslims then Mecca should be an islamic state but Mecca is Qaria and the people living there are all Muslims contrary to Madina where jews, christians, Sabaens and pagans live together side by side... thats mercy thats tolerance of a civil society established Muhammad and thats should be the model of all Muslim countries...
Dear Dr Tariq, with all due respect, there is not a single country in the whole muslim or Arab world that can be a model, even at small scale with lots of resources (UAE, etc..) Muslim countries do not lead by example, unfortunately
people have myth about Islam and muslims. It our duty to teach what really Islam?
dream on.
This guy is clever but some of his view are unacceptable. Based on his western ideology of multi party democracy. Saying islamic state will have multi party and who ever win govern, so to say islamic state governed by Kafir Khalifa or non muslim. Remember khalifa of umma is the imam of muslims and his ruling binding to all. Better to stay quite sometime rather then confusing Muslims.
Dear sister/ brother
What do you mean by Islamic state.
A state Islamic or not, ? Does it make a difference, Dear, state is made by people to serve them, if it doesn't, there's no point to build one, it is not ordained by Allah swt
Sigh. A lot of comments here with very little imagination. I'm surprised, yet not surprised.
Sheikh you can look up to Indonesian Democracy
At about 1:47, “We know Muslims led the world in civilization and we trained the world in all areas of life…” A bold statement. Reference please? I know of no religion, society, people, or civilization that ever led the whole world, much less trained it in all areas of life.
Do some research on the Islamic Golden age you'd be surprised.
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He is talking about world Religion
So he's talking about living in a Democracy then. Can you provide any examples of Islam producing ideas and adopting/adapting to the needs of the ever changing world?
@jj I can't prove my religion or that there is a God. That is out of my limits as a human. But if you are curious, I can encourage you to call out to God and ask Him to reveal himself to you. (in sincerity).
Matthew 7:7: “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you''.
Psalm 27:7-12: "Hear, O Lord, when I cry with my voice, And be gracious to me and answer me. When You said, “Seek My face,” my heart said to You, “Your face, O Lord, I shall seek.” God wants us to earnestly seek him.
Psalm 34:4-5, 8 I sought the LORD, and He answered me and delivered me from all my fears''.
@jj Go on?
Dr. Ally, if Trump is condemned for hosting anti-semites, how does hosting this particular individual compare?
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This individual didn’t present anything novel other than saying Western countries like Canada are Islamic.
I'm a Muslim but I hope my country (Egypt) would never be an Islamic state! Any state should not have any religion! I believe that any religion absolutely oppose any other religions: So it's impossible for a state to be religious and at the same time there might be democracy!!
i used to think the same way as you, but this is wrong, if you support secularism then in part you're opposing the legislation of the quran which was represented through the governance of the prophet (saw). with all due respect you havent truly become muslim until you accept that the shariah is the best way, and how can you say as a muslim we oppose other religions, you not supporting something doesnt mean you're outwardly opposing it.
That's actually not true, in fact religious freedom is suppressed in countries like France where women are forced to take off their headscarves. And where does democracy fit into this scenario? The problem here is that when any type of ideology whether it be religious or secular becomes radical then no rhetorics such as democracy will save you because the moderation is not an objective at all. That is how the world functions when they go extreme, which is why a moderation is required to have more groups aligned with that state than only encompassing the beliefs of one group over the other. So in that case nothing is wrong with religious state as long as it's done moderately and that is what the guest is stressing in this interview as well. Hence, I wouldn't recommend seeing the world in black and white because history shows that religious states can be more tolerant and in harmony while so called democratic countries are oppressing the heck out of people if they dare to deviate from the mainstream narrative.
Just look at the situation in Europe and North America now, how Russians are treated and how their assets are frozen with the potential stealing in the name of the EU. Or even so called p/and/emic which became a great scam too in human history as the whole planet was manipulated into extreme. People today live in godless states where they attach themselves to this world thanks to secularism thus they are afraid to die. The more people have fear from death, the more irrational decisions will be made in such places. Due to this exact reason I would rather have a religious state that operates by God given morals and principles than man made ones that is concerned only with wordly matters and that can change with time as they desire. I myself have seen this especially among youth that have suicidal moods. Humans are more than just physical agents on this earth, and until we recognize our ultimate purpose in this life we will be seduced with all sorts of temptations in this world that will force us forget about our Creator to whom we will all eventually return.
@@-bodna usually young people who were superficially exposed to the western mindset tend to believe the things that commentator wrote. When you live there long enough, observe geopolitical events in the meantime you start seeing the reality in case you are a reflexive person. So there is a hope that this person might change his views when he grows older, for now we can only pray for people to open their hearts and minds🙏🏻
@@jenniraisovna5698 true, op did say they lived in egypt, when you live somewhere like the uk for long enough you realise how bad the government actually is and how the values proported by the media affect so many people, like how they're doing with qatar, despite the fact that an estimated 30,000+ people are going to die in the uk as a result of cold houses and private companies are still charging exorbitant prices
@@-bodna oh yes, don't get me started on geopolitics 😄 I am baffled at all the hypocrisy that the Collective West is executing against Qatar and Russia lately, what a nonsensical world we live in. I just wish that actually Iran and the Sunni world united to beat this enemy, by dividing ourselves we serve them without realizing it. There is a little hope in me that the Middle East will reassess their attitude toward each other after world cup and protest challenges throughout. My heart and mind still yearns for utopia but sensibly I understand humans are always seeking trouble so no systems will live in harmony for too long. At least we can work on ourselves and improve to the best of our ability with God's help and mercy🤲
they should do age diffrencess to 15 max
This ignorant person whom you presented on the grounds that he is a scholar, in fact, did not even study religion, but his specialty is physics. His only relationship with religion is that he used to read some religious stories like the person who tells bedtime stories to children.
He has a good knowledge on science and the arabic langauge and yes he has studied Islam. He is giving his political views here and if you don't like it, tell us where he is wrong.
Well said. Pathetic. This chanel as a whole including Dr Shabir him self are so called liberal muslims. Everything done to please western life. And try to prove that Islam has no problem with issue like lgbt and so on. Very problematic
🤣 right.
All that he is saying does not conform with Islamic teaching then why "Islamic state"?
Again the system of government he is explaining does not differ from other states.
His ideas will not survive
He does! He is strategist dahwa!
This is clear Ridda
Assalamualaikum,
Sheikh I also believe that one day Muslims will rule the whole world but the things that Allah has forbidden is every human the Qur'an has sent for not only Muslims but also for Whole human kind
And also the thing is no non muslim is allowed to be a khalif of our Islamic State everything which Allah has forbidden in Quran also forbidden for Every human being. Isa AS himself will show us how to rule I respect you but some of the things you told are not right in the constitution of our Islamic State
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I don't know how to feel about what the sheikh is saying. He seems to be suggesting a UAE model where there are both secular and sharri laws for example drinking and parties in one part of the country and a more islamic lifestyle in the other . May allah give us the ability to understand.
Well maybe read his book first that may clarify some of your concerns?
His idea of this so called state is not correct. We cannot adopt democracy as an ideology for the state. Even western nations have not adopted democracy. Having the ability to vote is different from democracy. The sheikh is not correct here
@@AsifAlli Why can't we adopt democracy? Is it inherently haram?
@@runninginsept Yes it is haram. The reason why is due to definition and also practical implementation. By Definition, Democracy means Demos Kratos which is greek for People Rule. The idea being marketed across the world is that "Majority rules". For example, if in a country that implements Democracy, the majority agree that women should receive less pay than men in the workforce, then that rule takes effect. Another example, if the majority agrees that everyone is allowed to walk around naked, then that law would be in effect. You can take that down a rabbit hole and see the outcomes not only in theory but also in practice. But also in practice, it is never really "majority" rules. It is "those that have the power, money and influence" will make the rules. That is how so-called democracies run today. Given all that, you can see how injustice can be rampent, and in effect this is what we have in the world today. Islam, on the other hand says "Allah the Sovereign rules", meaning that the divine laws from the Quran and Sunnah are what constitute the ruling body of laws in the society, not the so-called majority. The reason for this is that if you believe in a single Creator who has created the entire universe with such precision (planets, stars, orbits, magnetic fields, etc) and also created us, then you must be able to see that that same creator would also know how we should govern ourselves. And indeed the Creator does. That is why throughout time He sent messengers and prophets to many nations and tribes to bring them back onto the right path. And just as every prophet/messenger came with their own message for a certain people at a certain time, for a certain period of time, it was the FINAL messenger (i.e. Prophet Muhammad) who came with the final message for all of humanity (not just a specific nation), and for all time. Consider this as different operating systems (i.e. previous versions of windows) that were developed and sent to different people throughout history culminating in the final one (current version of windows), the Qur'an (the theory) and the Hadith (examples from the prophet Muhammad's time of how he governed and ruled in a just Islamic state)....This is the difference between Islam and Democracy. Also Democracy is a greek concept. Concepts and ideologies that do not emanate from the Islamic body of thinking should not be considered what would follow in our daily lives as muslim. We were given the best example in the Prophet Muhammad, and we simply need to implement it the same way he did....
Astagfirullah!
Not appealing at all....May Allah guide us towards the right path🙂
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Keep dreaming on your ideal system😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Where?
Canada or Germany or England
The closest country to an the Islamic state is Canada according to him Subhanallah a kuffar state is better than the likes of Saudi even they have problems themselves they are a Muslim state which calls to tawheed we have many Muslim countries yes they do have issues but can be considered the closest to an Islamic state ? He is happy with the kuffar subhanallah may Allah guide him
Is that state called dubai 😂
We have to be careful about this man.
He one of the good ones he has respect for women which not all Muslim men he more moralite and left leaning
Bidah.
in ur head
@@ماهر-ل1ط u arb aRe 🐕.s
It's all nice and UK has similar principles already , and the drinking out side in public on the street is illegal anyway , my question is some people would be oppressed in a Islamic state , you would not allow gay rights and marriage , so not everyone would have there freedom to be who they want and to marry who they want , see in the UK all religions are welcome with them being able to have there churches, and have discrimination laws to protect them , different races of people , different sexualities here, and that's why I love my country because of this
lol democratic government....joke you are sir
As opposed to what? It's easy to cast stones when you've done nothing to contribute to the subject.
agree. Islam can NEVER equate to democracy...at least not for women, children, gays, other religions.
@@Yorosero Islam calls for a theocracy with the calif as the head allegedly guided by Allah.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 Besides Muhammad only the Rashidun caliphs can be considered rightly guided and even those caliphs did not receive direct guidance from God.
Comments like this make it clear that people are immature to understand the message that the guest is trying to convey. We are operating by the western concepts of democracy and pluralism that have malleable features in nature hence change over time therefore will not be easily applicable to our generation. We have to understand the essence first before we jump into conclusions that theocracy and democracy are irreconcilable.
Dr. sofia seems decieving person.
They know what they are doing these so called Dr and misleading others.
With all due respect and with my modest knowledge, I disagree with Dr. Suwaida about his dream of an Islamic State. Prophet Mohammad (Pbuh) said " خلافه على منهاج النبوه"، meaning Kelaheh according to the method of prophethood.
Inshallah one day an islamic state will develop..
Keep worshiping west.
You have no idea why they wa t to establish one Islamic state in one of the wester countries.. like Canada England Germany !
Because it is will easy to hold USA feet!
Arab jaahil.
Totally empty words. Advocating the people who is not Muslim and is even atheist to be part of Islamic ruling ,Islamic Suura is nothing but a Kafir mindset
Sheer ignorance, both the interviewer and the interviewed.