Summon Necro was my favorite back in the day. When I was real sick, I could play on my mom's laptop with just the usb mouse. Slow and steady, but trying to forget about how sick I was. Bittersweet memories
just wanted to say you do a great job talking to your audience, and also including us youtube viewers and being mindful of us during your twitch stream. Thanks Llama, you're a great teacher!!
The first time I played Diablo II in elementary school back in 2002 or so, my first build is Summon Necro because of how cool it is (also cause my cousin told me how cool it is to kill monsters and raise 'em to fight on my side). Cause back then, there are no games (that I've played) that'd allow the players to do such thing. Really, it brings back alot of memories seeing you play this build.
I remember watching my parents play this, dad had a barb with duel grandfather’s (when they were good) mom had a sorc with full tal set, now I’m on my grail, trying to get back into it, I’m trying to get my dad back into d2
With all the corona out there your stream matter more than ever.Thank you for keeping our minds off our problems and giving us a nice intellectual exercise imagining different builds,
I'm so happy with this series for real! I'm doing home office recently due this virus and this series is a good company and helps me with my lvl 26 summoner (which I'm struggling to beat normal)
When you get a skill shrine, re-summon your skeletons. They will be stronger due to the increase of skills, and depending on where you are with the skill points, you may temporarily get one extra (which will die when the shrine wears off).
I found that the skill shrines give plus 2 to skills so you end up with two extra skeletons while you have the bonus plus 2 extra levels for any summons including Golem
With 14 in Skeleton Mastery and 16 in Raise Skeleton, 7 in clay golem, 2 in summon resist, my 6 skeletons survived the Baal fight. No re-summoning required. I kept my level 2 decrepify on Baal and resummoned the Clay Golem about 4 times. As Llama says, the slow combo of clay golem and decripify prevents most of Baal’s tricks. He rarely cast his fire nova and the overhead curse a few times. 0 teleport and 0 clones. Thank you MrLlama!
Twitch chat is like a song stuck on repeat. At first it's sort of funny, but it quickly becomes annoying... and then an hour in it becomes funny again. Your patience knows no bounds Mr. Llama!
I love playing Path of Exile, usually play over 1,000 hours per league, but when it dies out a bit, I go back to my roots at Diablo 2 while watching your vids
12:13 They absolutely are. Might merc is what makes summonmancer not terrible. And equipping one with a pride runeword allows the build to comfortably hang with the endgame. 16:30 For skills on this build is awlways better to first put 3 into raise, then 1 into mastery, then max raise skeleton as soon as possible. The raise skill gives all stats to the summons while also increasing the max skeletons you can have. Mastery only increases stats. The only deviation from this is to pick up amp damage just before andariel, summon resist as soon as it's available and decrep just before baal. CE you can pick up anytime, for speedruns probably grabbing it sometime in late act 2 would be best. Any other skills beyond that is up to personal preference.
You have got me playing diablo 2 and really enjoying it as a single player game and I wanted to say thank you. I feel like I am 14 years old at my school friends house discovering the game for the first time way back in the day again. I always wanted to play a summoner necro so I am now playing along with this one. Looking forward to completing the game and playing through as more characters also. Cheers
A spectre is haunting Europe... The spectre of Mr. Llama, who has been been growing fat by the sweat of his skeletons, by exploiting their labor for far too long now! Skeleton unionize, you have nothing to lose but your chains! LONG LIVE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE SKELETARIAT
I may be super late to comment about this, but... Skeleton increases damage by 7%, Mastery increases by 2. Mastery will be better UNTIL that 7% is a higher increase than 2. So, some basic math! 2 / .07 = ~28.57. Sountil your skeletons are doing more than 28 damage, it will give you less than 2 damage per rank. Conveniently, they start at 1-2 damage, so 14 ranks would put them at 29-30. So, 14 ranks of Mastery are stronger for pure damage than Raise Skeleton. After that, Raise is slightly ahead of Mastery. Personally, I get to where I can sustain 4 skeletons (a comfy level for safety and murder), then get 14 Mastery, then max out Skeletons. Obviously, there is also the benefit of having additional skeletons, with each one providing an effective jump of damage, but... This is just how I am comfy, making strong and durable skeletons first, and then making more of them.
Here's a trick with the summoner: if your skeles are dragging behind, stuck,etc,then over extend yourself, go like a screen away, and it will pull your minions to you. If you run far enough away, they teleport on you. I just ran all the way to maggot lair 3. Run as far as I can, and if I get stuck, stop and my minions jump on top of me, rinse and repeat. Gotta go fast
Hey Mr Llama, what's up? I never manage to catch your streams, but I've been watching your videos ever since I came back to D2, and I gotta say I appreciate your work a lot. Thanks for everything. I'm not trying to speedrun, but I learned many tips and strategies to improve my gameplay experience. I even manage to recognize some tile pieces now, all thanks to you. I noticed a CRAZY act 3 map that I just had to print screen to show you, but I don't know how to do so (or if you're even interested in seeing it). It's basically a crazy fast black marsh skip, flayer dungeon right off an entrance from the spider forest. If I hadn't been watching you, this gem would've just passed by unnoticed. This video of Skelemancer is what my friend and I were waiting for, since we're both traumatized by a Diablo fight back when there were no synergies in the game. Sorry for the long post. Hope you're well. Stay hydrated
3:04:00 Taste is literally how animals determine what fits their dietary needs. You love suggar because from an evolutionary standpoint, free calories is absolutely great for you! Not Nature's fault we came up with industrialisation.
Thx man, for this awesome video, I did start yesterday and i did really enjoyed it. I've started with players 8, Cain is out of his cage, en Blood Raven is put to rest... Keep Up the awesome work! I love fast attack, but i'm really a slug when i'm comparring my game with yours, im also level 16 and have to visit the Countess...
diablo 2 and lod are some of the best games ever made. it was a blast to play back in the early 2000s and now 20 years later its still fun! i remember ww barb was sooooo overpowered but then ww was nerfed with the weapon speed patch. good times! good times!
Wow didn't know you were an investor and a chill long term type of person as well. Pretty awesome glad you mentioned these things and I hope some people are inspired to get into it themselves
Took me forever to find a wand with +3 summon skelly in act 1. I could dream of finding a head with anything above +1 right now. I just started act 2, so maybe I'll get lucky.
with a little patience, you can just reset akara until she sells a +3 skelly wand, doesn't cost an awful lot if it doesn't roll other skills. it's the offhand that's the bigger issue
In D2R I kept finding +2 RS and +SM mastery wands launch week. I suspect the drop tables were in favour of the players for launch week to create an invisible positive player experience. Sort of the opposite of D3 launch.
Okay. You asked for it!!! I am an old dude. And here is some IMPORTANT stuff I found out recently: Toilet-paper gives no real cleanliness when one uses it. Most issues one CAN get (haemorrhoids f.e.) come from using normal T-Paper. Using wet T-Paper to clean up completely is not a bad idea... But to other issues comes, that the wet paper always takes away some skin when wiping. So the butt becomes... let's say "weakened" - BAD. The ONLY way to clean correctly, is to WASH. We all should have bidets. Bidets with toilet-function.
Wet wipes create needless waste and clog up the sewage systems because they don't degrade. City workers regularly have to go in just to unlodge all the blockages caused by wet wipes. Don't use wet wipes. Ever. Thanks.
@@Salted_Fysh Don't EVER OVERuse wet-wipes. I am German. Maybe our issues with wet-wipes are not as severe as in America... but we all SHOULD be fine, if we don't use more than three wipes at a time - and as rarely as possible. (3 Max is to be read on all packages here in Germany.) And, what you just replied so correctly, is what I called "other issues" - thank you for clarifying - I should have been more clear.
Back in the day I remember I came to the conclusion my best bet was to put points 3:1 on Raise:Mastery. Can't remember if I was optimising for damage or life, but I think it was damage. Anyway, I just used a skill calculator to test. If calculator is correct, with 15:2 on Raise:Mastery a point in Mastery gives negligibly more damage per skelly. The situation is reversed for life per skelly. And you are further away from getting an additional skelly by putting a point in Mastery. I'm sold on pumping Raise until 20 hard points before putting a 2nd point in Mastery
you want it the other way around. Basically, you want to optimize your build vs normal Diablo, because he's the hardest challenge. Get your RS to 5 and you want your hard points in this. Everything else in SM. Your skeletons will do better against diablo. Mages aren't a waste, a single point in them are enough. SM + a point in summon resists really help vs Diablo.
Trying new chars this quarantine.. Saw that you skipped the waves. What do we do when Resurrected comes and glitches (merc bug,wave skip,bosses stuck,etc) are fixed?
Tho you are a summoner MrLlama u summon great Diablo 2 videos that makes everyone here happy! I follow your every guidance! :3 You're my favorite Diablo 2 runner and youtuber Llama.
Hi Llama, very late comment but rewatching your videos as D2R released. I found a Gull dagger early and was wondering if this build would be the best to play with it and start mf'ing early, I don't mind starting over and already have a stealth ready in shared stash.
starting with ya. the big D scared me and my build. had to respec to get past him but im farming up some stuff honest question: is this a stupid build idea? SummonMancer A5 merc LastWish/HandJustice Barbhelm(ironskin) Dream iron Golem Beast Leaving my hands free for a good White
OMG.. the beginning of the quarantine .. the innocence of not knowing what we know now .. THANK-YOU Mister Layma .. Mister Layma .. pound those Dudes against the wall .. LOL
My favourite class and build, really. Well, I add some bonemancer into this. When you play necromancer, you basically don't care about anything. Your army will do everything you need. And there's also some dark irony in the fact that you can make your enemies serve greater needs. But, of course, when it comes to Maggot Lair, you are screwed.
question, would I have to have the same "patch" as the creator of this post to do that same thing? currently running patch 1.14v ( what has changed with the spells? if any.) sorry IF this is a dumb question, I have played Diablo 2 since it came out, and never had the patience to complete this til the end of the 3rd run through...
I recommend one skill in skeleton mastery early on as that +2 damage is huge goes from 1-2 to 3-4 at instant and even more if you have a few points in raise skeleton. So lv 2 raise->mastery->raise->amplify damage->mass raise.
Hey Mr Llama, I have a question. Does the damage stack when I use double throw plus spear mastery in barbarian? Does those skill stack? Thanks for answering.
Skeleton Mastery is better than Raise Skeleton in the early game. Raise Skeleton stays at 1 to 2 damage until level 8. Even with 7% increased damage per point after the first, that only comes to (1 to 2) * 1.49 = 1.5 to 3 damage. 4 skeletons total equals 6 to 12 damage combined. Skeleton Mastery adds 2 flat damage per level. With 3 in Raise Skeleton and 5 in Skeleton Mastery that equals (1 to 2 + 10) * 1.14 = 12.5 to 13.5 damage. 3 skeletons total equals 37.5 to 40.5 damage combined.
I have been trying your build for the necromancer summoner but I have found that only doing the summon skeleton doesn't increase the stats enough on the skeleton, I went to the Stony plain with 8 summon skeleton and they were still being killed quickly by the archers in the field. When I used a combination of summon with mastery the skeletons lived longer and did even more damage then just summon skeleton skull alone.
The version of the game that I am playing is the first release of game version which requires the disk to play and in that version mastery doubled stats for each point while summon only increased the amount of summons. I have also heard that my version has a limit of 20 summoned monsters regardless of the levels.
This character is the only reason I ever played Diablo 2. I tried sorc, barb, amazon but the only characters that sticked with me were the assassin, the druid and the necro. Summon druid sucks and cannot beat Diablo unless you overlevel to 30 and try to get him with the bear? Summon necro I am lvl 30 at Baal. Diablo still remains a roadblock and so does Duriel but you can get them with decrep + frozen mage or act 3 merc. Also do not go past 5 skeletons before act 5, you need as much mastery as possible for them to survive duriel and diablo.
I'm running thru with a Summon Necro now, it's good fun. I didn't put any points in Skeleton mastery till I had 20 pts in raise skeleton, I did get a +2 skele mastery head, so I did have some for a while before I got the full 20 pts.
A trick I like to use on playtheoughs sometimes is use my skill quests for the 1 point pre-reqs so I can continue to use my skills I get from leveling up for my good stuff.
love your playthrough guides even thou there little older and d2r is out but still enjoying watching older graphics and lucky me on necro playing with ya on tower 2nd run got nagel ring and fourth got a nagel ring also i was rather impressed few mins later got a +3 skeleton summon wond and shield with +1 raise skeleton with 5-15% res in each this play through will be fun i feel it already lol
44:20 Isn't it 2 extra damage for each skeleton mastery level, rather than 2 percent extra damage? At least at low levels, 2 damage would be a huge increase (e.g. going from 2 damage to 4 damage is a 100% increase), which is greater than the 7% damage increase from raise skeleton.
tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html play around here, you'll see that more often going straight summon skele adds more overall dps (since it adds skeletons which adds a LOT of dps to get an additional skele)
@@MrLlamaSC When my RS3 SM10 3 skeleton hit something, it dies. They move on. When your RS12 SM1 skellies hit something, it dies as they die. It slows you down to babysit the paper skelliebros.
In some areas I do that yes, but mostly no because corpse explosion gets a bit worse as you increase players and overall dps isn't crazy high. But if you overlevel, then sure!
It's interesting to hear you say "TP" when you mean "Teleport". My crew always used "TP" as an abbreviation for "Town Portal". "tele" was the written abbreviation of "Teleport", and "port" was the spoken abbreviation.
Yo Llama, about the golem part where you said more than one level is useless. I have been playing many many many summoner runs in my life, i can say one of the best things in the game is max clay golem. The slow is so good it actually bugs many of the big bosses and in general throughout hell is pretty good and don’t die.
MrLlamaSC all I’m saying is give it a try sometime when you feel doing something crazy. The build I usually do for summoner is 20 mastery, 20 skelly, 20 clay, some resist and golem mastery, 15 corpse, 1 amplify and find a good bow for a merc. And works great, just may be not as fast as your other guided play throughs. Cheers, and btw, those guided play throughs are probably the best content on youtube. Period. :)) so good
~ 4:11:31 "Let's smack him to death." I was about to take a sip of my coffee and then, out of the blue, you jut go ahead and say that and remind me your argument with Mephisto earlier! XD
So summon necro is actually my reset build kinda the first day i rush to nm for access to stuff like lore rhyme spirit insight treachery if i get reset day off work i can do this day 1 normally with decent rng (i farm cows for bases) its really really easy to stack mf on this spec i actually believe it or not mf in hell chaos you can clear the game naked on summon necro with some experience with it so its not mega fast clearing for early chaos but in my personal experience in the first week i can 1. Find really good gear and bases often 2. Have a decent hr drop rate 3. Level really fast 4. Trade up to having things like enigma and beast in the first 2 weeks to farm ubers for torches for further wealth while working a full time job so pretty casual play for hours invested another route you can take is the first weak a 35 fcr spirit sword and pally shield with decent base res even low fcr ones will easily be a um in value you can gear up to hoto and enigma really fast never leaving nightmare just wanted to leave this here as d2r comes out in a month i have followed this route for every reset for 10+ years spirits will always be in demand the first 2 weeks good luck in your adventures
A year old but this class is heavily skill based and I can understand your distaste for it - it really is well served by spending some time grinding, especially since I would argue normal diablo is the hardest boss fight for it. In hell you can revive a bunch of urdars and murder any boss but in normal, it's made a lot less painful with decent skeletons and decrepify.
After watching a few of these playthroughs why don't you value the extra skill point from Act 2 quest 1 at all? I know it take extra time but this is casual and that's a pretty solid reward right? Oh, well I just got to the point in the video where he did go back for it but still, the question remains for the other playthroughs
Try bow-mancering your summoner, works like a charm if your ditching your direct damage spells altogether anyhow. (3 chippies in a socketed bow 4tw in act1) Also, get a couple % manaleech for virtually infinite CE. Especially fun if you happen to stumble across a Goldstrike or better yet Eagle. Brings back the memories man, so many fond memories... Most fun ive had in D2, period. Its genuinely good, as long as you stay away from PI's. Btw, avoid cold damage, dont let all those juicy corpses go to waste!
@@redelfshotthefood8213 Topaz works best, but rubies are also ok. I just use whatever drops first or of which ever you got the higher quality gem. Freeze effects sometimes shatter the precious corpses, so avoid that, but other than that i tend to be pretty liberal with where i shove my early game gems into. :p
What bundle did you buy to get 'Fulmenating Posion, on Act 1. that shoudlnt be available until Act 2 (unless there has been a big nerf to the game) ! ?
Yeah, it was a favourite of mine for that reason, way back when, because it allowed me to watch tv and talk with my mom. Then I discovered how much more fun it is to go fast and train your skills, back when Bnet was not yet infested with bots and massive lag and your character actually teleported when you clicked. Just before LLama posted this I was finally starting to recover from corona and wanted to play and all the characters are just too fast and demanding, except for this one :D
im only at 46 mins in but please tell me he realized skeleton mastery gives a flat damage increase by 2 points each time so putting some points from time to time in here is actually really good it aint a percentage
Sadly, he doesn’t. 2>=0.7, but he saw the multiplier in skelliebro bodies as more important than tanky skelliebros. You need RS for attack and defense rating too.
Just two noob questions : Why don't you cube 3 runes of the same low level to get a better one, why you sell them? and why don't you go to the upper kurast to get the sewers level 2 fast?
The cubing is only effective if the rune you need is the rune you cube for because other wise you need at least 3 times as many runes to cube, multiplying fast. For 1 rune up you need 3 runes, for 2 runes up you need 9 and then 27. That's just not feasible. You don't get to sewers level 2 faster by going to upper Kurast. The entrance to level 2 is random and there is no way to know which entrance is closest until you found level 2. That said, no video game is truly random and the chance the level 2 entrance spawns in the middle is lower than any other spawn. You could reset the map a couple of thousand times and collect data on where the entrance spawns most often, but that will probably not help because you will go in there only once with every char on each difficulty, only slightly increasing the chance (out of 7 or 8 possibilities) and taking a long walk to have a slightly higher chance still ends up having a much greater chance of having wasted your time. There is a super chest in level 1 and the entrance to level 2 spawns facing to the right when you're facing the open side of the tile while standing in that tile where the chest is. So your chances do increase if you go left/clockwise from wherever you come in. Then, unless there's a wrap around or a center spawn, you'll find the trap door before you find the chest. So far, the only maps where chance really matters are the catacombs because the stairs to the next level have the highest chance of spawning pretty much straight down of where you come in.
all the dust discussion was interesting, I recall hearing it was mostly skin cells, but I've since heard it's mostly insect waste. Wikipedia says dust is up to 50% skin cells, so Insect waste!
Summon necro always goes slow. I never have trouble leveling because I just let my summons kill everything. I run a lot of MF early because your team allows you to be a little squishy. Your summons get the same MF that you have, so it works out great. I would never be in act 5 at lvl 21, that was crazy. Seems like a problem a normal summoner wouldn't have. Really enjoy all these play along vids though. I've watched them all, and played along with them (except barb that was awful lol).
thank you so much for making this I just got to level 21 and i cant kill duriel because i spread my points too much around so i appreciate the info lol
can't help but notice, you hoped first way was the right way in arcane, I have noticed that if the lightning spires are active, the summoner is never in that direction... if they are already tripped, that's how you know you're going the right way though
I have been playing this build for a few days, but I'm stuck in the Arreat Summit on Nightmare difficulty. How do you deal with the Ancient with physical immunity?
19:20 the main purpose of my clay golem was to beat diablo. Diablo would kill all my skellies in one or two hits. So I used Clay golem and and that thorns curse, and let diablo kill himself.
Look I have play daiblo 2 with a true necro summon. And found the most hardest necromancer summon. You will end up making a massive army to stop most people. But you will have a way to push throw
Okay legit question this time. Is it worth farming tombs and duriel to get a few levels and back on xp curve before pushing act 4-5? It's obviously slower but watching llama just run through without playing the game (ie fighting monsters and getting progressively under leveled), breaks my soul every time i watch these speed runs.
there we have it the summoner, oh boy i did not know that about skeleton mastery, i have to correct you mrlama if you want youre skeletons to hit hard kill stuff you need points in mastery ;) im gonna use that still but youre guide is a mindblower, my way to beat diablo and bhall is summon resist skeleton mastery, and corpse explosion as you shown me im not gonna use the clay golem im gonna get the fire golem in time but my main focus will be on my skeletons making then resist and hit hard, if you speedrun use tp to bring youre skeletons to you
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Summon Necro was my favorite back in the day. When I was real sick, I could play on my mom's laptop with just the usb mouse. Slow and steady, but trying to forget about how sick I was. Bittersweet memories
Glad u got better 👍
just wanted to say you do a great job talking to your audience, and also including us youtube viewers and being mindful of us during your twitch stream. Thanks Llama, you're a great teacher!!
The first time I played Diablo II in elementary school back in 2002 or so, my first build is Summon Necro because of how cool it is (also cause my cousin told me how cool it is to kill monsters and raise 'em to fight on my side). Cause back then, there are no games (that I've played) that'd allow the players to do such thing. Really, it brings back alot of memories seeing you play this build.
Same here man I played in middle school 2005. This game was so ground breaking
I remember watching my parents play this, dad had a barb with duel grandfather’s (when they were good) mom had a sorc with full tal set, now I’m on my grail, trying to get back into it, I’m trying to get my dad back into d2
With all the corona out there your stream matter more than ever.Thank you for keeping our minds off our problems and giving us a nice intellectual exercise imagining different builds,
I'm so happy with this series for real! I'm doing home office recently due this virus and this series is a good company and helps me with my lvl 26 summoner (which I'm struggling to beat normal)
When you get a skill shrine, re-summon your skeletons. They will be stronger due to the increase of skills, and depending on where you are with the skill points, you may temporarily get one extra (which will die when the shrine wears off).
Never necessary
skill shrines still make me salivate like Pavlov's dog.
'i can get three ice mages and a full slightly better army before the shrine wears off'
I found that the skill shrines give plus 2 to skills so you end up with two extra skeletons while you have the bonus plus 2 extra levels for any summons including Golem
With 14 in Skeleton Mastery and 16 in Raise Skeleton, 7 in clay golem, 2 in summon resist, my 6 skeletons survived the Baal fight. No re-summoning required. I kept my level 2 decrepify on Baal and resummoned the Clay Golem about 4 times.
As Llama says, the slow combo of clay golem and decripify prevents most of Baal’s tricks. He rarely cast his fire nova and the overhead curse a few times. 0 teleport and 0 clones.
Thank you MrLlama!
Hyped for the comeback of the "Playthrough" series. Thank you.
Other builds I'd love to watch/play a play through of: Light sorc, martial arts assassin, fury druid!
Twitch chat is like a song stuck on repeat. At first it's sort of funny, but it quickly becomes annoying... and then an hour in it becomes funny again.
Your patience knows no bounds Mr. Llama!
Agreed he keeps a pretty positive attitude.....gotta love it
I love playing Path of Exile, usually play over 1,000 hours per league, but when it dies out a bit, I go back to my roots at Diablo 2 while watching your vids
Oh man. Much respect of doing a playthrough of a game from decades ago. Still a gold in 2020.
12:13 They absolutely are. Might merc is what makes summonmancer not terrible. And equipping one with a pride runeword allows the build to comfortably hang with the endgame.
16:30 For skills on this build is awlways better to first put 3 into raise, then 1 into mastery, then max raise skeleton as soon as possible. The raise skill gives all stats to the summons while also increasing the max skeletons you can have. Mastery only increases stats.
The only deviation from this is to pick up amp damage just before andariel, summon resist as soon as it's available and decrep just before baal. CE you can pick up anytime, for speedruns probably grabbing it sometime in late act 2 would be best.
Any other skills beyond that is up to personal preference.
Hell no not pride lol infinity
Hello Mr Llama why it took somebody so long to do these guides is beyond me. You’re a genius for doing it first. Keep up the great work.
Lots of people say it's too late but...I don't see them anywhere and it's still a great game so I don't mind!
I just reinstalled the game and these have been super helpful.
@@MrLlamaSC 3 years later and I am watching to learn tips I might have forgotten and I learned new things to boot
Hyped for a summoner build, a good video to watch during self isolation
Be safe and stay healthy :)
my mind is boggled at how fast you can move through these acts.
I'm like a hybrid. I know how to move through the acts fast, but I like to take my time on certain points.
My god, Llama, my favorite class playthrough!! woooo!
My favourite Blender dude watches my favourite Diablo dude?
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@@frenzofficial4418 haha!)
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You have got me playing diablo 2 and really enjoying it as a single player game and I wanted to say thank you. I feel like I am 14 years old at my school friends house discovering the game for the first time way back in the day again. I always wanted to play a summoner necro so I am now playing along with this one. Looking forward to completing the game and playing through as more characters also. Cheers
coming back to watch to help me get back into the game after like 13-14 years for d2r thank you for all the great content
A spectre is haunting Europe... The spectre of Mr. Llama, who has been been growing fat by the sweat of his skeletons, by exploiting their labor for far too long now! Skeleton unionize, you have nothing to lose but your chains! LONG LIVE THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE SKELETARIAT
LOL
I found your content on youtube. You have inspired me to reinstall d2 and play a summon necro. I also subbed good content sir.
I may be super late to comment about this, but... Skeleton increases damage by 7%, Mastery increases by 2. Mastery will be better UNTIL that 7% is a higher increase than 2. So, some basic math!
2 / .07 = ~28.57. Sountil your skeletons are doing more than 28 damage, it will give you less than 2 damage per rank. Conveniently, they start at 1-2 damage, so 14 ranks would put them at 29-30. So, 14 ranks of Mastery are stronger for pure damage than Raise Skeleton. After that, Raise is slightly ahead of Mastery.
Personally, I get to where I can sustain 4 skeletons (a comfy level for safety and murder), then get 14 Mastery, then max out Skeletons. Obviously, there is also the benefit of having additional skeletons, with each one providing an effective jump of damage, but... This is just how I am comfy, making strong and durable skeletons first, and then making more of them.
Interesting. So RS to 5 skellies, SM to 14 is the best way to go. Thank you!
Thank you for this. I'm playing D2 Resurrected along with you through one of the toughest times in my life. I truly appreciate the company my guy
Hope life has gotten better for you.
Here's a trick with the summoner: if your skeles are dragging behind, stuck,etc,then over extend yourself, go like a screen away, and it will pull your minions to you. If you run far enough away, they teleport on you. I just ran all the way to maggot lair 3. Run as far as I can, and if I get stuck, stop and my minions jump on top of me, rinse and repeat. Gotta go fast
Hey Mr Llama, what's up? I never manage to catch your streams, but I've been watching your videos ever since I came back to D2, and I gotta say I appreciate your work a lot. Thanks for everything. I'm not trying to speedrun, but I learned many tips and strategies to improve my gameplay experience. I even manage to recognize some tile pieces now, all thanks to you. I noticed a CRAZY act 3 map that I just had to print screen to show you, but I don't know how to do so (or if you're even interested in seeing it). It's basically a crazy fast black marsh skip, flayer dungeon right off an entrance from the spider forest. If I hadn't been watching you, this gem would've just passed by unnoticed.
This video of Skelemancer is what my friend and I were waiting for, since we're both traumatized by a Diablo fight back when there were no synergies in the game.
Sorry for the long post. Hope you're well. Stay hydrated
you can send it to my email mrllamas@gmail.com
3:04:00 Taste is literally how animals determine what fits their dietary needs.
You love suggar because from an evolutionary standpoint, free calories is absolutely great for you! Not Nature's fault we came up with industrialisation.
I'm playing along a year later and got Kyoko as my act 1 merc. Destiny.
2020 and here i am, watching you do a guided playthrough on my favorite class. Good job
I've started playing Summon Necro when I got the Diablo 2 Remastered, this playthrough helps a lot.
Thanks for all the guides and whatnot Llama, helped me a ton coming back to the game
Thx man, for this awesome video, I did start yesterday and i did really enjoyed it. I've started with players 8, Cain is out of his cage, en Blood Raven is put to rest... Keep Up the awesome work! I love fast attack, but i'm really a slug when i'm comparring my game with yours, im also level 16 and have to visit the Countess...
diablo 2 and lod are some of the best games ever made. it was a blast to play back in the early 2000s and now 20 years later its still fun! i remember ww barb was sooooo overpowered but then ww was nerfed with the weapon speed patch. good times! good times!
Wow didn't know you were an investor and a chill long term type of person as well. Pretty awesome glad you mentioned these things and I hope some people are inspired to get into it themselves
The madman risked it all and played the forbidden build. Truly, a brave soul!
I was doing this build and got pretty lucky in act 1, found a wand with +2 summon skelly and +1 explosion and a head with the same thing.
Yeah lucky
Took me forever to find a wand with +3 summon skelly in act 1. I could dream of finding a head with anything above +1 right now. I just started act 2, so maybe I'll get lucky.
@@ZeriocTheTank yeah same.
with a little patience, you can just reset akara until she sells a +3 skelly wand, doesn't cost an awful lot if it doesn't roll other skills. it's the offhand that's the bigger issue
In D2R I kept finding +2 RS and +SM mastery wands launch week. I suspect the drop tables were in favour of the players for launch week to create an invisible positive player experience.
Sort of the opposite of D3 launch.
-"kyoko is awful name honestly hhahahaaha"
Llama: "Wow, racist. that's... my family name."
xDDDDD
Okay. You asked for it!!! I am an old dude. And here is some IMPORTANT stuff I found out recently:
Toilet-paper gives no real cleanliness when one uses it. Most issues one CAN get (haemorrhoids f.e.) come from using normal T-Paper.
Using wet T-Paper to clean up completely is not a bad idea...
But to other issues comes, that the wet paper always takes away some skin when wiping. So the butt becomes... let's say "weakened" - BAD.
The ONLY way to clean correctly, is to WASH. We all should have bidets. Bidets with toilet-function.
Wet wipes create needless waste and clog up the sewage systems because they don't degrade. City workers regularly have to go in just to unlodge all the blockages caused by wet wipes.
Don't use wet wipes. Ever.
Thanks.
@@Salted_Fysh Don't EVER OVERuse wet-wipes.
I am German. Maybe our issues with wet-wipes are not as severe as in America... but we all SHOULD be fine, if we don't use more than three wipes at a time - and as rarely as possible.
(3 Max is to be read on all packages here in Germany.)
And, what you just replied so correctly, is what I called "other issues" - thank you for clarifying - I should have been more clear.
S**t Shower Shave. I was 22 when I learned that. Very good advice.
make me want to dive into D2 again.. great video MrLlamaSC!!
Back in the day I remember I came to the conclusion my best bet was to put points 3:1 on Raise:Mastery. Can't remember if I was optimising for damage or life, but I think it was damage.
Anyway, I just used a skill calculator to test. If calculator is correct, with 15:2 on Raise:Mastery a point in Mastery gives negligibly more damage per skelly. The situation is reversed for life per skelly. And you are further away from getting an additional skelly by putting a point in Mastery. I'm sold on pumping Raise until 20 hard points before putting a 2nd point in Mastery
you want it the other way around. Basically, you want to optimize your build vs normal Diablo, because he's the hardest challenge. Get your RS to 5 and you want your hard points in this. Everything else in SM. Your skeletons will do better against diablo. Mages aren't a waste, a single point in them are enough. SM + a point in summon resists really help vs Diablo.
I love these guided playthroughs, can't wait to see many more :)
I’m glad we got to learn about llamas toilet paper usage. I would be lost without it.
Trying new chars this quarantine.. Saw that you skipped the waves. What do we do when Resurrected comes and glitches (merc bug,wave skip,bosses stuck,etc) are fixed?
Tho you are a summoner MrLlama u summon great Diablo 2 videos that makes everyone here happy! I follow your every guidance! :3 You're my favorite Diablo 2 runner and youtuber Llama.
Hi Llama, very late comment but rewatching your videos as D2R released. I found a Gull dagger early and was wondering if this build would be the best to play with it and start mf'ing early, I don't mind starting over and already have a stealth ready in shared stash.
starting with ya. the big D scared me and my build. had to respec to get past him but im farming up some stuff
honest question: is this a stupid build idea?
SummonMancer
A5 merc LastWish/HandJustice Barbhelm(ironskin) Dream
iron Golem Beast
Leaving my hands free for a good White
OMG.. the beginning of the quarantine .. the innocence of not knowing what we know now .. THANK-YOU Mister Layma .. Mister Layma .. pound those Dudes against the wall .. LOL
Thanks for the amazing run, any chance you'll do a bowazon next : )
possibly! Will be a bit slower though as I think it would be fun to farm a nice bow
Was the damage attribute from mastery the same with attack? I always thought it was attack rating
lol I learned soo much always whenever I watching MrLama's guides
My favourite class and build, really. Well, I add some bonemancer into this. When you play necromancer, you basically don't care about anything. Your army will do everything you need. And there's also some dark irony in the fact that you can make your enemies serve greater needs.
But, of course, when it comes to Maggot Lair, you are screwed.
The purity of your love for d2 is adorable
Is high light radius any use against the eclipse caused by the Claw Vipers or is it just superficial?
2:52:00 - Three hours in, and we finally get our first amulet. Via crafting from the cube. We didn't actually find one.
question, would I have to have the same "patch" as the creator of this post to do that same thing? currently running patch 1.14v ( what has changed with the spells? if any.) sorry IF this is a dumb question, I have played Diablo 2 since it came out, and never had the patience to complete this til the end of the 3rd run through...
I recommend one skill in skeleton mastery early on as that +2 damage is huge goes from 1-2 to 3-4 at instant and even more if you have a few points in raise skeleton. So lv 2 raise->mastery->raise->amplify damage->mass raise.
Hey Mr Llama, I have a question. Does the damage stack when I use double throw plus spear mastery in barbarian? Does those skill stack? Thanks for answering.
Skeleton Mastery is better than Raise Skeleton in the early game.
Raise Skeleton stays at 1 to 2 damage until level 8. Even with 7% increased damage per point after the first, that only comes to (1 to 2) * 1.49 = 1.5 to 3 damage.
4 skeletons total equals 6 to 12 damage combined.
Skeleton Mastery adds 2 flat damage per level. With 3 in Raise Skeleton and 5 in Skeleton Mastery that equals (1 to 2 + 10) * 1.14 = 12.5 to 13.5 damage.
3 skeletons total equals 37.5 to 40.5 damage combined.
I have been trying your build for the necromancer summoner but I have found that only doing the summon skeleton doesn't increase the stats enough on the skeleton, I went to the Stony plain with 8 summon skeleton and they were still being killed quickly by the archers in the field. When I used a combination of summon with mastery the skeletons lived longer and did even more damage then just summon skeleton skull alone.
The version of the game that I am playing is the first release of game version which requires the disk to play and in that version mastery doubled stats for each point while summon only increased the amount of summons. I have also heard that my version has a limit of 20 summoned monsters regardless of the levels.
Me : starts a new sorc. Gets Tal from first Countess. Eth+Eth+Nef 2nd Countess. Thinks about llama's speed runs and cries a little
This character is the only reason I ever played Diablo 2.
I tried sorc, barb, amazon but the only characters that sticked with me were the assassin, the druid and the necro.
Summon druid sucks and cannot beat Diablo unless you overlevel to 30 and try to get him with the bear?
Summon necro I am lvl 30 at Baal.
Diablo still remains a roadblock and so does Duriel but you can get them with decrep + frozen mage or act 3 merc.
Also do not go past 5 skeletons before act 5, you need as much mastery as possible for them to survive duriel and diablo.
The most expected video of this channel
what summoning necro build should I do? Also, I love your vids :>
I'm running thru with a Summon Necro now, it's good fun. I didn't put any points in Skeleton mastery till I had 20 pts in raise skeleton, I did get a +2 skele mastery head, so I did have some for a while before I got the full 20 pts.
A trick I like to use on playtheoughs sometimes is use my skill quests for the 1 point pre-reqs so I can continue to use my skills I get from leveling up for my good stuff.
love your playthrough guides even thou there little older and d2r is out but still enjoying watching older graphics and lucky me on necro playing with ya on tower 2nd run got nagel ring and fourth got a nagel ring also i was rather impressed few mins later got a +3 skeleton summon wond and shield with +1 raise skeleton with 5-15% res in each this play through will be fun i feel it already lol
44:20 Isn't it 2 extra damage for each skeleton mastery level, rather than 2 percent extra damage? At least at low levels, 2 damage would be a huge increase (e.g. going from 2 damage to 4 damage is a 100% increase), which is greater than the 7% damage increase from raise skeleton.
tph.tuwien.ac.at/~gottwald/necro_pet_calculator.html
play around here, you'll see that more often going straight summon skele adds more overall dps (since it adds skeletons which adds a LOT of dps to get an additional skele)
@@MrLlamaSC When my RS3 SM10 3 skeleton hit something, it dies. They move on. When your RS12 SM1 skellies hit something, it dies as they die. It slows you down to babysit the paper skelliebros.
1:06:15 through:30 Dude tell me that wasn't your best Trump impression!! That was...Freakin spot on LMAO OMG
Also Lenymo Hype, Idk what it is this season but I've found Hotspur like no ones business, 2-3 in one day messin around leveling in norm
Would this be a good build to up the difficulty with? Like players 5 or 8?
In some areas I do that yes, but mostly no because corpse explosion gets a bit worse as you increase players and overall dps isn't crazy high. But if you overlevel, then sure!
Yes, this is one of the best builds for players 8, just need to be careful about bosses.
Safest and most equipment free build with the exception of gloams
This is great because i always considered skeles with a golem as a powerful defensive wall in front of me.
It's interesting to hear you say "TP" when you mean "Teleport". My crew always used "TP" as an abbreviation for "Town Portal". "tele" was the written abbreviation of "Teleport", and "port" was the spoken abbreviation.
wordlessly naming yourself BonieSanders was an absolute move and a half
Yo Llama, about the golem part where you said more than one level is useless. I have been playing many many many summoner runs in my life, i can say one of the best things in the game is max clay golem. The slow is so good it actually bugs many of the big bosses and in general throughout hell is pretty good and don’t die.
Decrep + clay golem does a pretty great job of that, I don't think wasting the extra skills there is super necessary really!
MrLlamaSC all I’m saying is give it a try sometime when you feel doing something crazy. The build I usually do for summoner is 20 mastery, 20 skelly, 20 clay, some resist and golem mastery, 15 corpse, 1 amplify and find a good bow for a merc. And works great, just may be not as fast as your other guided play throughs. Cheers, and btw, those guided play throughs are probably the best content on youtube. Period. :)) so good
I have thought about that. Is it better than pumping revives? I really like a +3 to CG wand, because that bumps slow up to 50 percent.
A lower level golem is cheaper in terms of resources as positioning the golem comes from 1) dragging the army 2) teleport staff/enigma 3) resummon.
~ 4:11:31 "Let's smack him to death."
I was about to take a sip of my coffee and then, out of the blue, you jut go ahead and say that and remind me your argument with Mephisto earlier! XD
So summon necro is actually my reset build kinda the first day i rush to nm for access to stuff like lore rhyme spirit insight treachery if i get reset day off work i can do this day 1 normally with decent rng (i farm cows for bases) its really really easy to stack mf on this spec i actually believe it or not mf in hell chaos you can clear the game naked on summon necro with some experience with it so its not mega fast clearing for early chaos but in my personal experience in the first week i can 1. Find really good gear and bases often 2. Have a decent hr drop rate 3. Level really fast 4. Trade up to having things like enigma and beast in the first 2 weeks to farm ubers for torches for further wealth while working a full time job so pretty casual play for hours invested another route you can take is the first weak a 35 fcr spirit sword and pally shield with decent base res even low fcr ones will easily be a um in value you can gear up to hoto and enigma really fast never leaving nightmare just wanted to leave this here as d2r comes out in a month i have followed this route for every reset for 10+ years spirits will always be in demand the first 2 weeks good luck in your adventures
Could you do the equivalent guide on pd2? I rarely play vanilla and have to translate everything myself, in-between games
A year old but this class is heavily skill based and I can understand your distaste for it - it really is well served by spending some time grinding, especially since I would argue normal diablo is the hardest boss fight for it. In hell you can revive a bunch of urdars and murder any boss but in normal, it's made a lot less painful with decent skeletons and decrepify.
After watching a few of these playthroughs why don't you value the extra skill point from Act 2 quest 1 at all? I know it take extra time but this is casual and that's a pretty solid reward right?
Oh, well I just got to the point in the video where he did go back for it but still, the question remains for the other playthroughs
This is the G*ngB*ng Necromancer Build!! This will be a looooooonnngg guided Playthrough!! Love ur Vids Mr. Llama
Try bow-mancering your summoner, works like a charm if your ditching your direct damage spells altogether anyhow. (3 chippies in a socketed bow 4tw in act1)
Also, get a couple % manaleech for virtually infinite CE. Especially fun if you happen to stumble across a Goldstrike or better yet Eagle.
Brings back the memories man, so many fond memories... Most fun ive had in D2, period. Its genuinely good, as long as you stay away from PI's.
Btw, avoid cold damage, dont let all those juicy corpses go to waste!
What chips do you recommend?
@@redelfshotthefood8213 Topaz works best, but rubies are also ok. I just use whatever drops first or of which ever you got the higher quality gem.
Freeze effects sometimes shatter the precious corpses, so avoid that, but other than that i tend to be pretty liberal with where i shove my early game gems into. :p
What bundle did you buy to get 'Fulmenating Posion, on Act 1. that shoudlnt be available until Act 2 (unless there has been a big nerf to the game) ! ?
4 years later. "Look ma, it's massive" Never forget.
summoner is such an awesome char, you can watch somebody else playing a summoner while doing baalruns
edit: no tp no civ
Yeah, it was a favourite of mine for that reason, way back when, because it allowed me to watch tv and talk with my mom. Then I discovered how much more fun it is to go fast and train your skills, back when Bnet was not yet infested with bots and massive lag and your character actually teleported when you clicked.
Just before LLama posted this I was finally starting to recover from corona and wanted to play and all the characters are just too fast and demanding, except for this one :D
I know this is a while ago, but skeleton mastery gives +8 life/+5% life, and +2 damage/+10% damage. MrLlama was only saying the whole numbers
im only at 46 mins in but please tell me he realized skeleton mastery gives a flat damage increase by 2 points each time so putting some points from time to time in here is actually really good it aint a percentage
Sadly, he doesn’t. 2>=0.7, but he saw the multiplier in skelliebro bodies as more important than tanky skelliebros. You need RS for attack and defense rating too.
Дружище!!! Здравствуй!!! Очень обожаю Диблу))) возможно сделать титры на русском?? Очень интересные гайды, но половину не понимаю(( за ранее спасибо))
Back before he found his mang song's. Good times. Still love this series
Just two noob questions : Why don't you cube 3 runes of the same low level to get a better one, why you sell them? and why don't you go to the upper kurast to get the sewers level 2 fast?
The cubing is only effective if the rune you need is the rune you cube for because other wise you need at least 3 times as many runes to cube, multiplying fast. For 1 rune up you need 3 runes, for 2 runes up you need 9 and then 27. That's just not feasible.
You don't get to sewers level 2 faster by going to upper Kurast. The entrance to level 2 is random and there is no way to know which entrance is closest until you found level 2.
That said, no video game is truly random and the chance the level 2 entrance spawns in the middle is lower than any other spawn. You could reset the map a couple of thousand times and collect data on where the entrance spawns most often, but that will probably not help because you will go in there only once with every char on each difficulty, only slightly increasing the chance (out of 7 or 8 possibilities) and taking a long walk to have a slightly higher chance still ends up having a much greater chance of having wasted your time.
There is a super chest in level 1 and the entrance to level 2 spawns facing to the right when you're facing the open side of the tile while standing in that tile where the chest is. So your chances do increase if you go left/clockwise from wherever you come in. Then, unless there's a wrap around or a center spawn, you'll find the trap door before you find the chest.
So far, the only maps where chance really matters are the catacombs because the stairs to the next level have the highest chance of spawning pretty much straight down of where you come in.
Hi pls spirit and edge runeswords are working on single player?
Remeber when you could have like 30 melee skeltons and and 30 magic skeletons
And they had collision with players. It was a true miracle to be able to run Arcane Sanctuary and/or Maggot Lair at all.
all the dust discussion was interesting, I recall hearing it was mostly skin cells, but I've since heard it's mostly insect waste. Wikipedia says dust is up to 50% skin cells, so Insect waste!
Summon necro always goes slow. I never have trouble leveling because I just let my summons kill everything. I run a lot of MF early because your team allows you to be a little squishy. Your summons get the same MF that you have, so it works out great. I would never be in act 5 at lvl 21, that was crazy. Seems like a problem a normal summoner wouldn't have. Really enjoy all these play along vids though. I've watched them all, and played along with them (except barb that was awful lol).
Yup definitely correct. I like to move through to keep the game more difficult/not stale for my stream, but this is a great char to go slower on
Run more, let the skeles fight the things you run past, rinse and repeat. Stop and let them fight when it gets hairy, then move on
thank you so much for making this
I just got to level 21 and i cant kill duriel because i spread my points too much around so i appreciate the info lol
Level up some more too. 21 is kind of low
Will you do this as well for diablo 2 resurrection?
can't help but notice, you hoped first way was the right way in arcane, I have noticed that if the lightning spires are active, the summoner is never in that direction... if they are already tripped, that's how you know you're going the right way though
I will watch for this.
I have been playing this build for a few days, but I'm stuck in the Arreat Summit on Nightmare difficulty. How do you deal with the Ancient with physical immunity?
If you get phys immune, reset it with a TP until you don't!
@@MrLlamaSC Thanks bro. I'm new to the game and I didn't know you could do that.
Amp removes phys immune
19:20 the main purpose of my clay golem was to beat diablo. Diablo would kill all my skellies in one or two hits. So I used Clay golem and and that thorns curse, and let diablo kill himself.
Look I have play daiblo 2 with a true necro summon. And found the most hardest necromancer summon. You will end up making a massive army to stop most people. But you will have a way to push throw
Okay legit question this time. Is it worth farming tombs and duriel to get a few levels and back on xp curve before pushing act 4-5? It's obviously slower but watching llama just run through without playing the game (ie fighting monsters and getting progressively under leveled), breaks my soul every time i watch these speed runs.
Okay i think the last hour of this video helped answer my question.
there we have it the summoner, oh boy i did not know that about skeleton mastery, i have to correct you mrlama if you want youre skeletons to hit hard kill stuff you need points in mastery ;) im gonna use that still but youre guide is a mindblower, my way to beat diablo and bhall is summon resist skeleton mastery, and corpse explosion as you shown me im not gonna use the clay golem im gonna get the fire golem in time but my main focus will be on my skeletons making then resist and hit hard, if you speedrun use tp to bring youre skeletons to you