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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Daniil Medvedev and Alexander Zverev exchanged barbs via the media after their match at Monte Carlo. Zverev claims Medvedev has no sportsmanship. Medvedev has plenty of shots to fire back. Who is in the right?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 177

  • @Braselton21
    @Braselton21 Рік тому +52

    Zverev & Tsitsipas & Medvedev are always involved in drama 😂
    This is my generation's Big 3 lol

    • @sandranastia
      @sandranastia Рік тому

      Sad but true! Bunch of small cats lol 😂

  • @Grobmotoriker96
    @Grobmotoriker96 Рік тому +34

    "It wasn't really a break, it was a bathroom RUN". Loved this 😂

  • @peterbreughel4440
    @peterbreughel4440 Рік тому +24

    Zverev is good at tennis, but he's no match for Daniil when it comes to press conferences and media interviews. Daniil is a very skillful and entertaining conversationalist who has a lot to say and can do it effortlessly in multiple languages.

  • @Mahler1988
    @Mahler1988 Рік тому +29

    Ahah that moment when Gill removes the expert shirt and goes full gossip :D
    But yeah it's interesting!

  • @SimonServes
    @SimonServes Рік тому +19

    He knocked down the net stick because he lost crucial points to the net cord. It was his attitude towards the net. 😂

  • @rayintheforest
    @rayintheforest Рік тому +73

    Medvedev had his service game broken due to back to back net cord double faults in the last game before the stick incident, so I think he nocked down the stick due to his frustration about his net cords, plus his usual showmanship where he tends to express his frustrations in funny, quirky, theatrical ways came in to play. He seems to like having a laugh about himself and I think he sometimes assumes too optimistically that his opponents would find it funny and laugh about them too. The umpire knew this and laughed about it. I personally enjoy his funny theatrical tendencies. He also did that funny thing in the next match where he asked the linesmen to get out of his way before he smashed the ball to the wall. These theatrics/antics are purely one way that he enjoys tennis, I think, rather than them being strategic or calculated moves to disturb the opponents.

    • @blackkitty9054
      @blackkitty9054 Рік тому +7

      There 8s nothing funny about a 27 y/o acting like a spoiled brat on court.

    • @rayintheforest
      @rayintheforest Рік тому

      There was also another funny moment in the match during the last game before Medvedev runs to the bathroom. In the first point of the game which was a long rally, Medvedev is making a funny grunt noise sounding like "aiya! every time he hits the ball, and Zverev starts imitating him at the end of the rally. Then from the next point Medvedev stops grunting and goes silent. It was quite funny.

    • @justusbeweel1109
      @justusbeweel1109 Рік тому +4

      @@blackkitty9054 spoiled brat fits zverevs description perfectly.

    • @veronicanicholls7132
      @veronicanicholls7132 Рік тому

      No he is not an angel, who is?

    • @zirkvandenberg7776
      @zirkvandenberg7776 Рік тому +4

      Also, Zverev also gave a wry smile at the time. He looked bemused more than upset.

  • @Max_Cherry
    @Max_Cherry Рік тому +80

    We need Stan to tell Zverev to stop acting like a baby.

    • @mongol62
      @mongol62 Рік тому +5

      No, he should say that to Medvedev after he gets beaten by him. That's the Stan "the man" way.

    • @Max_Cherry
      @Max_Cherry Рік тому +1

      @@mongol62 Fair call - I'm on board for this too!

    • @mongol62
      @mongol62 Рік тому

      @@Max_Cherry Absolutely. That being said, I don't think he dares saying that to someone like Medvedev, unless it's in a joking fashion.

    • @mortenstigpoulsen6452
      @mortenstigpoulsen6452 Рік тому

      Lol 😂

    • @bestcommentator_
      @bestcommentator_ Рік тому

      ​@@mongol62 btw, today Stan went to WC at 5-4 vs Max Cressy.😁

  • @robkelly3801
    @robkelly3801 Рік тому +13

    Danil was 100% right in his response - Sascha is laughably inappropriate as a messenger for any lectures about fair play. Danil is absolutely no angel but I think his rational straight-talking is refreshing.

  • @harrdeeharr
    @harrdeeharr Рік тому +9

    Sasha laughed about the net pole incident at the time. He only got upset after he lost.

  • @wellhello6618
    @wellhello6618 Рік тому +17

    Well said. The only point Sasha basically had was the one about the net pole. He may have forgotten however that he was caught on camera laughing about it as it happened, making an amused grimace as if to say: There goes Daniil again. The anger seems to have seeped in only after or during the losing of the match. I love Medvedev's quirkiness and his return was epic. The mirror comment instantly brought back images of Zverev attacking the umpire in an earlier doubles match, hacking at least 3 times into the umpire chair with his racket. And nobody will ever forget his domestic violence past either. So despite being unfair and petty in his response (when he should have been introspective about his own mental weakness this match), he lashed out instantly in the press. Not a wise thing. Glad that Danill at the spot already rebuked that Sasha should've just finished the game.

    • @matthewdsouza8891
      @matthewdsouza8891 Рік тому

      @wellhello6618 If you read all of Sasha's comments he acknowledges his own failings in finishing the match. Most players are pretty salty when they lose an important match, especially when it's so close.
      Look at Medvedev at the AO. He did a yawn gesture towards the lady that spoke at the ceremony, didn't thank the crowd, he phoned Djokovic, and then did a long monologue playing the victim.

    • @wellhello6618
      @wellhello6618 Рік тому +3

      @@matthewdsouza8891 So? Sasha can physically attack an actual umpire and his girlfriend because he later acknowledges he made a mistake, but Meddie cannot have his own antics (far FAR less bad than attacking an umpire) even though he also admits right away he was an ass? They both do not have the moral high ground to criticise the other on fair play morality. Difference here is: Sasha started it and Daniil just rebuked. Zverev has some nerve. He should look in the mirror and focus on his own choking issue in tennis (Zverev fan here btw, but this was just bs from him).

    • @matthewdsouza8891
      @matthewdsouza8891 Рік тому

      @@wellhello6618 From reading my post, how on earth do you interpret me defending Sasha's past behaviour and off court stuff?
      I was simply saying that when players come off court, after a very painful loss, be it Murray, Tsitsipas, Medvedev, they can be salty and not look at themself.
      I also said that Zverev did acknowledge his own failings, in not being more focused and winning the match.

  • @matthewdsouza8891
    @matthewdsouza8891 Рік тому +14

    I think most players on the tour, that had lost painfully close matches to a contempory, within a short space of time, would have felt angry and wanted to say something.
    I reckon Sinner wanted to say something similar about Rune, but held his tongue.
    I don't think Medvedev does it consciously to disrupt his opponents but it might be unconscious. The antics, the arguing with officials etc. I can see why Zverev, when losing, would feel this way.

  • @user-eb8bx2kl5k
    @user-eb8bx2kl5k Рік тому +7

    I have been working as a conflict manager for individuals and companies for 20 years and would like to bring up a few aspects here that have not been considered until now. The nature of conflicts is that they build up and follow a pattern of conflict escalation. For example, if a friend is late for an appointment 1 or 2 times, you take it easy, the 3rd or 4th time you might be slightly annoyed, and the 5th or 6th time you may explode and it comes to an open confrontation. I appreciate that you used the full quote and discussed the individual criticisms. But the key point in Zverev's quote is: "He did it in IW, he did it here." In order to understand why this type of criticism came from Zverev, it makes no sense to look at individual points of criticism in isolation. The individual points may not be comprehensible or may not be perceived as so bad. It is the history and the sum of all incidents from two matches that took place between the two within a short period of time (and maybe also from previous matches) that led to the clearly expressed criticism here.

    • @user-lz7dz3lt5t
      @user-lz7dz3lt5t Рік тому +1

      In IW, Medvedev lost to Zverev, then twisted his leg and won the match after a medical break. Later, Zverev told in another interview about toilet breaks and treatment. Apparently, he believes that Medvedev staged the injury in IW, although everything happened before his eyes. He also said that it took him 6 months to recover, and Medvedev immediately started playing. (Sorry for the bad English)

    • @lauramau2530
      @lauramau2530 Рік тому

      I think Medvedev just gets on Zverev’s nerves for whatever reason.

    • @user-lz7dz3lt5t
      @user-lz7dz3lt5t Рік тому +6

      ​@@lauramau2530 The reason is clear. Until 2019, the score of meetings in favor of Zverev is 5-1. Since 2020, the score in favor of Medvedev is 8-1. Plus a Grand Slam and the first number of the rating. Medvedev did what was expected of Zverev from the age of 17.

    • @rublo1
      @rublo1 Рік тому

      Best and key comment here about the nature of conflicts

    • @bsrussian
      @bsrussian Рік тому +1

      While you're correct, Zverev is getting annoyed because of other things that have been building up with Medvedev, not due to the bathroom or things like that. There was no bathroom breaks in IW.
      What Zverev was annoyed by in Indian Wells was that he thought Medvedev faked his injury saying "it took me 9 months to do that". He was also annoyed when Medvedev was arguing with the umpire during the changeover (not even arguing, just complaining about the court). Different incidents, but general annoyance with Medvedev.
      Also, as someone else pointed out, it's because he's getting annoyed that he's lost to Medvedev so many times now. Especially losing these tight matches will make you resent someone if you can convince yourself they did something wrong.

  • @grimson
    @grimson Рік тому +9

    This is great Gill, but you didn’t address ‘the wife thing.’ Daniil specifically referenced Zverev mentioning his long friendship with Daniil AND his wife on multiple occasions. Why does this matter? One of Daniil’s wife’s best friends is…Zverev’s ex who accused him of abuse. Daniil pretty clearly feels Zverev was exaggerating that friendship to keep her somewhat on his side, and at least not publicly support his ex. This jibes with reports that Zverev spent a lot of time in the locker room last year campaigning for players, including WTA players, to support him publicly.

    • @NorfolkEnchants
      @NorfolkEnchants Рік тому +4

      It was pointed out at the time how strange it was for Zverev to go out of his way to mention Dasha in speeches, it was two I believe, both around the time the accusations came out. He didn't so much say they were friends but he said something like 'We've known each other since we were kids, we've grown up together and now look at where we are' type of thing but it definitely implied 'Hey come on, you KNOW me, don't believe her' that's what I got from it anyway. Problem for him is, Dasha has known Zverev's ex for longer and competed with her in junior doubles for a while. It's also worth pointing out that both Daniil and Dasha follow Zverev's ex on Instagram, like her posts whereas neither of them follow Zverev.

    • @bsrussian
      @bsrussian Рік тому +4

      @@NorfolkEnchants yeah all that looks quite bad for zverev. also kind of shows how manipulative hes being. if he was really innocent would he be saying stuff like that? i can only imagine how happy dasha and olya are with medvedev beating the shit out of zverev in the presser and twice already this year on the court

  • @nicolasmts3264
    @nicolasmts3264 Рік тому +6

    Zverev just salty because a player who is pretty average on clay just beat him 😂 he is embarassed

    • @rusty935
      @rusty935 Рік тому

      like meddy is any better on Clay lol

  • @adityadeshmukh9906
    @adityadeshmukh9906 Рік тому +49

    I love Medvedev. I know he is not angel but he is so damn smart😂
    He does these antics within the rules unlike players like Kygrios.
    He is so aware of himself and he has courage to accept when it’s really his fault. But, when he is not wrong, he crushes the other person.

    • @veronicanicholls7132
      @veronicanicholls7132 Рік тому +4

      Medvedev is very classy and brainy too! Kyrgios is a bogan he uses dirty tricks. His method is to try and destroy the concentration of his opponents. He can play, however, where are all his titles. Nole had his number at Wimbledon.

    • @iceescape
      @iceescape Рік тому +2

      It boggles my mind how anyone can like Medvedev yet hate Kyrgios. They are practically the same person except Medvedev is whinier.

  • @jethrobroughton4854
    @jethrobroughton4854 Рік тому +12

    All I want from this drama is for Diego to tell Daniil he's forgiven him tbh

    • @mikiafu
      @mikiafu Рік тому +3

      He couldn't care less about this trash talk and slander.

  • @meganadebar1048
    @meganadebar1048 Рік тому +4

    That stick-act was funny. Sorry for anybody who cannot laugh about that kind of self-ironic humour in a moment of frustration about oneself's failure. Much more harmless than any ball-hitting or racket-smashing. "I hit the ball into the net? - so then I must lower it for my ball to pass over it next time." What solution could be more obvious?!

  • @gabrielaseveriano8042
    @gabrielaseveriano8042 Рік тому +5

    It's interesting to notice Zverev started making these exaggerated claims about his friendship with both Daniil and his wife Daria Medvedeva after the first accusations of domestic violence were made against him. In the first part of the two stories about these accusations, Olya Sharypova describes an episode of Zverev trying to suffocate her with a pillow before she fled the tournament hotel in NYC and she says she'd been hanging out with Daria that same night, before this allegededly happened.

    • @rishabhaniket1952
      @rishabhaniket1952 Рік тому +1

      Exactly, Zverev has bread crumbs of unstable behaviour, from hitting girlfriends to attacking umpires which in reality is actually ‘unfair’ and he is the one to point fingers. Pretty sure Meddy knows a lot about your mentioned incident and basically owns Zverev in terms of intelligence and information.

  • @rachelw3478
    @rachelw3478 Рік тому +3

    Daniil is most interesting character on ATP right now. Look forward to watching him on and off court rarely a dull moment when he is around. Sacha just comes across bitter in this exchange.

  • @td_07
    @td_07 Рік тому +7

    Whilst I agree that Zverev only had a point about the net pole, it’s quite frustrating how often Daniil gets away with his petulant behaviour.
    He should’ve got a warning for removing the net post. Then I recall him hitting the ball against the backboard in frustration on at least two occasions during the match. Again no warning for ball abuse. Did the same against rune and no warning. These are three examples where his behaviour went unpunished.
    I remember him mocking Novak’s injury in Australia too, he is constantly engaging in unsportsmanlike conduct and isn’t called out for it the same way other players are. It just shows the double standards with Medvedev and how he gets away with it because it’s ‘funny’.

  • @lawanddisorder_au
    @lawanddisorder_au Рік тому +6

    In fairness, Medvedev also appeared to mock Nole's hamstring injury during their semifinal in Adelaide this year. It is no surprise that he was losing the match at the time.
    Meddy is an endearing and authentic personality but, suffice it to say, that kind of behaviour isn't winning him the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award for 2023. To make matters worse, Nole has always been so supportive and respectful towards Meddy, irregardless of whether he was ranked number 800 or number 1.
    Put simply, the point I'm eluding to is that there could be tendency on part of Meddy to engage in these kind of below the belt tactics. From someone that likes Meddy on and off the court, I sincerely hope not.
    PS - Thank you for the refreshingly insightful and engaging content and analysis. Big support and much appreciated.

    • @user-lz7dz3lt5t
      @user-lz7dz3lt5t Рік тому +2

      It wasn't clear if he was laughing at Novak or at himself because he can't beat an injured player.

    • @bsrussian
      @bsrussian Рік тому +1

      He said he was joking about it after the match, him and Novak are good friends

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому +1

      @@user-lz7dz3lt5t That's how I interpreted it. He was looking at his box, and pretty much saying that the guy is injured, and I still can't beat him today. But, of course, some "other" fans saw it quite differently. LOL

    • @lawanddisorder_au
      @lawanddisorder_au Рік тому

      @@bsrussian It is easy to hide behind intentions and "jokes" after the fact to justify past behaviour. It certainly looked like mocking to a layperson and to the naked eye.
      They are good friends, which makes the situation a little more concerning on part of Meddy. Is it anybody safe, if not a good friend?

    • @lawanddisorder_au
      @lawanddisorder_au Рік тому

      @@mrsjake1828 Mocking motions, stretching and faces of pain arising from the injury isn't looking at his box for validation or sympathy.
      As I said I do honestly like Meddy but actions speak louder than words. And sure those actions are up for interpretation.

  • @seaneckhart9914
    @seaneckhart9914 Рік тому +18

    That's why I love Daniil. He's a straight shooter and he calls out bs when he sees it.

  • @paulmansell4763
    @paulmansell4763 Рік тому +5

    Sasha does need to look in the mirror & take more responsibility for not fulfilling his potential to date. I am not questioning his desire or work ethic to win a grand slam, but his mentality as a competitor. Sasha claimed he would have been a good chance of beating Rafa last year if he had not got injured. While it is possible he would have beaten Rafa it isn't likely at Roland Garros after losing the first set with only the Djoker being able to win in 2021 after losing the first set. That is over 100 matches and 17 years of competing so history suggests that Sasha would have lost. Sasha was probably disappointed & Zverev can get in a competitor's head & is obviously in Zverev's head. Sasha needs to learn from this and try to use it in the months and years that follow.

  • @jwbrandt70
    @jwbrandt70 Рік тому +3

    I don't like the way Zverev says all of this, but at the same I think these umpires need to have crystal clear application the rules. Zverev was asking for the warning to be called. It does not matter if it was 10 seconds or 1 second, it has to be like the serve clock on being ready to go after a changeover. They need to have a very clear position on what the rule is regarding this and then apply it consistently no matter what the excuse is. But Zverev calls out the wrong person on this. Instead of emphasizing a consistent application of the rules, he attacks the character of his opponent. So not cool at all of Zverev. But also tennis needs to have clear application of the rules. I would not be afraid of calling out Daniil, but the way Zverev went about it was definitely not cool and left him open to all of this.

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому

      Zverev asked for nothing to be called during the match. I have the whole thing on TCPlus. He sat there with his kit checking his levels and then eating something from tubes.

  • @theprogressivemichigander6588
    @theprogressivemichigander6588 Рік тому +2

    Just bizarre. I could understand latching on to the distraction of a bathroom break if Zverev got broke afterwards. It's bizarre to care about it given that Zverev won the following two games.

  • @Dust880
    @Dust880 Рік тому +6

    Thank God for personalities! If McEnroe and Connors played today Twitter would explode

  • @jayenneB
    @jayenneB Рік тому +6

    Medvedev knows when he has said enough, particularly about the "unfair" statement. He said that maybe Sacha expressed his emotions in the heat of the moment, just right after the game, in a way saying that he makes allowance for Sacha's words. Daniil is indeed smart. I agree with Gill, others should be careful when they bring up beef with Daniil.

  • @sawan66278
    @sawan66278 Рік тому +4

    Zverev is one of the most spoiled, entitled players in many a year on the tour. From his first appearance on the tour to now, he's felt that titles and victories are his right. And now? With Alcaraz, Sinner, etc. on the rise, he must be boiling over with frustration that his time never came or was guaranteed.

  • @piqueblinders7948
    @piqueblinders7948 Рік тому +18

    I think this shows you have to be brave or stupid to take on Medvedev in beef imo, he is a very intelligent, eloquent dude who also seems to have a fantastic memory, so he can produce examples that make you look dumb on the fly

  • @joannemoore3976
    @joannemoore3976 Рік тому +9

    I can't stop laughing about Daniil taking the net stick, he is so random sometimes. He cracks me up. I have been reflecting though on why my reactions to players behaviour vary so much. I always loved John Mcenroe despite his behaviour which often went too far. Medvedev usually makes me laugh, he is so intelligent and a lot of it seems tongue in cheek. Yet I find Holger Rune thoroughly obnoxious and bratish (and not just because of the result against my favourite Sinner). I suppose it depends on where you feel the behaviour is coming from for each individual.

    • @leonardobraynen1524
      @leonardobraynen1524 Рік тому

      Holger Rune is supremely talented but extremely arrogant- his attitude turns me off.
      But i have to remember he's only 19 and is not a full *MAN MATURE!*
      He's still a kid and as such behaves as an impetuous & petulant child.

    • @joannemoore3976
      @joannemoore3976 Рік тому +1

      Yes hopefully he will mature in his attitude. Alcaraz is the same age and Sinner only 2 years older and they don't behave like that. Still everyone matures at different rates I guess.

  • @Victrola66
    @Victrola66 Рік тому +6

    At the end of the day, while Daniil is no saint - HE APOLOGIZED to Sasha on court and admitted his shitty behavior. What does that say if not that he understands what he did wrong. Yet Sasha decides to make a thing of this when he has zero ground to stand on. He wanted to put shade on Daniil yet only managed to show that he is the one who is immature.

  • @melaniefowler8841
    @melaniefowler8841 Рік тому +2

    Subject to interpretation. This may have been building for a while for Zverev.

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama86 Рік тому +4

    Zverev is too fragile. The thing he has to learn is to watch how resentful he is and what it does to him.
    The reason why a victim mentality only hurts a person is because it takes power away from you. You want to adopt as much responsibility as you can. It not only gives you something you yourself can focus on, but it puts you more in the driver's seat. Now the counter could be that you do that and you lost. Which is better, you losing because it was in your hands or you losing because it was out of your hands? One paints a picture of despair. The other? Ok. Someone was better than you, perhaps. That's fine. There's always someone better than you. So you work towards being better. So unless you don't like to work, and you have a sense of unjustified pride and ego, you should learn to adopt responsibility. That's what victors do.

  • @ccxmc
    @ccxmc Рік тому +2

    Yes, I'm also here for the beef in tennis. Definitely makes things more entertaining and funny, but I do notice a bias by some fans towards certain players for their behavior compared to others. They probably think Rune is a brat for joking to Stan at the net, but what Daniil is doing is completely fine because he's "funny." Guess for some, there will be different standards depending on how likable or charismatic someone is, but I find it pretty hypocritical. I don't mind the racket smashing, trash talking, net pole pulling, etc. from anyone as long as it doesn't become violent or bullying to others.

  • @bsrussian
    @bsrussian Рік тому +1

    Best video you’ve ever made tbh

  • @lsfire3489
    @lsfire3489 Рік тому +2

    Point is if he did not piss he might have lost because he would be uncomfortable so when you get to use the toilet and it is not allowed then you get that unfair advantage.

  • @matthewdsouza8891
    @matthewdsouza8891 Рік тому +10

    I think the most important takeaway and the most worrying thing for Zverev was him losing his nerve to serve this out.
    Scar tissue is an issue. He was desperate for a big win post his return and needed the win way more than Medvedev.
    Just like Murray with Stef, Danil post losing AO final, players can be bad losers. They can exhibit saltiness, sour grapes, victimhood.
    People crawling over every sentence he said post match and examining it, should appreciate what just happened.

  • @msem6136
    @msem6136 Рік тому +1

    I don't see it as fun...
    ...I'd rather watch a good game played in good spirit any day.

  • @tennistimetiborhunyadi3934
    @tennistimetiborhunyadi3934 Рік тому +4

    The way you have broken down this dispute is absolutely great. I agree with all of it. The only thing I see differently is, for me the sport in itself is entertainment. I love the matches, the competition. Those who engage in idiotic disputes, like Zverev does here, that makes him a just a moron, not much else. Life goes on :)

  • @buzzfunk
    @buzzfunk Рік тому +2

    So true Gill! I agree!

  • @barbaragillett9904
    @barbaragillett9904 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Gill totally agree with you 😂😂❤

  • @sorana6831
    @sorana6831 Рік тому +2

    Very clear and fair summary and comment

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama86 Рік тому +2

    It's official. The 3 way beef. Tsitsipas, Zverev, and Medvedev all have something against each other.
    So. Shall we have it in 3 different ways? Rare, medium rare, fully cooked? Lol

  • @marconardelli5538
    @marconardelli5538 Рік тому +1

    I’m sorry but I do not agree with you this time, Medvedev clearly has this type of behavior when he’s down, never when he has the advantage, in this particular case, even if the public started to cheer more for Zverev, Medvedev clearly tried to change the equation of the match, this is clearly done on purpose and it is not something that we can defend

  • @sylviawu5838
    @sylviawu5838 Рік тому +2

    Can’t understand why the pole thing sparks so many rages recently. Many players act emotionally on courts but already I’ve seen some people saying they are not Medvedev’s fan anymore just because his childish behaviour of taking off the pole. Which is so sad. In my opinion people and the media trying to rendering it as a funny behaviour plays a role, because it gives the impressions that he was exempt from all condemnations which seems unfair. Also it’s compounded with Zverev’s interview (which I think was very immature in the first place.)

  • @ikonofcoil
    @ikonofcoil Рік тому +2

    When Kyrgios is provoking the crowd and creates a negative atmosphere it has an effect on his opponent and this is exactly why he is doing it. Zverev has a point. Both of them have an issue with emotional control and Medvedev tried to exploit it.

    • @aroam2031
      @aroam2031 Рік тому

      Kyrgious and Medvedev did different things. In the case with Daniil, it was more or less justified because he was booed for no reason. Plus, as Gill pointed out, there were just more fans starting to cheer Sasha on which must’ve only helped him. Not the best comparisons

  • @mrsjake1828
    @mrsjake1828 Рік тому

    Having paid for TCPlus, I just watched those last points again. Medvedev nods to the chair umpire before the last point about heading to the bathroom. Last point, he immediately runs out leaving his racket at the corner as he runs out. Meanwhile, Zverev is sitting as usual, but takes his kit out to check on his levels, and then sucks on something out of some tubes. He gets up before time is called and saunters onto the court. Meanwhile, Medvedev runs out of the tunnel and steps on court as time is called. Picks up his racket, towels off, and takes a quick drink. Nothing different than what any of them do when time is called. No complaining about the bathroom break, no asking the chair umpire why he granted the bathroom break. It's all fun and games until you lose!
    You tube video by Beanyman News with Zverev saying that he and Medvedev are Great friends, and then he corrects himself and says we're friends.
    Finally, I came across a video I can't find right now where Zverev wants to give himself a shot while sitting on court. The chair umpire says he can't do that anymore on court. Zverev replies that he's now being discriminated against, and the chair umpire says he needs to take that up with others. So, when he wants to go off court to do it, chair umpire tells him there is now no time to go. Pretty sure it was in the next changeover after the bathroom break, but the TCPlus video doesn't show that. Anyone out there see that??? More sour grapes because Medvedev was granted the break, but he wasn't??? Pretty sure I wasn't dreaming that.

  • @80sruler
    @80sruler Рік тому +2

    Zverev is a crybaby …and he lost to a guy he can’t stand. Medvedev, Zverev and Tsitsipas can’t stand each other

  • @reeceoneill5979
    @reeceoneill5979 Рік тому +3

    I miss Gold Wolf 😔. I still think Gill was secretly him trying to fool us

  • @Kailan19
    @Kailan19 Рік тому +2

    Primo content Gill, love the drama 👌

  • @rishabhaniket1952
    @rishabhaniket1952 Рік тому

    In my opinion in sports and competition you try every trick in the trade to succeed, that’s the very nature of it. There are governments, businesses etc that run by this principle.

  • @MaxDangVu
    @MaxDangVu Рік тому +5

    Gill, interested to hear your thoughts on Rune egging on the crowd vs Sinner, and hitting the ball at Sinner. I love it when a player plays the villain, but seemed like it really pissed Sinner off.

    • @GillGross
      @GillGross  Рік тому +23

      I don’t think he meant to hit it at Sinner. Looked like he was just slapping the ball aimlessly across the net. But yeah Jannik was certainly upset about it when the ball went wizzing by his face, understandably.

    • @SrinivasRao-vd4ki
      @SrinivasRao-vd4ki Рік тому +7

      ​​@@GillGross that's exactly what Novak did in the 4th round of US Open 2020, smacking the ball aimlessly. But unfortunately the ball hit the lineswoman and he had to pay a heavy price in the form of disqualification from the tournament and also had to face a lot of criticism.

    • @brianmoney410
      @brianmoney410 Рік тому +2

      ​@@SrinivasRao-vd4ki I think Rune had won the point though. Don't believe he was upset, just careless hitting the ball back. Shouldn't have done that but different than Joker incident which was clearly a bit more aggressive/angry. I would have much preferred Djokovic hitting the ball (successfully) at hypocritical PCB😂.

    • @harrdeeharr
      @harrdeeharr Рік тому

      @@SrinivasRao-vd4ki It was clearly different from what Novak did- Novak smacked the ball frustratedly behind him well after the point was done (and of course hit someone). Rune was just reflexively hitting the final ball a second after it is called out because it’s close to the line. People do that all the time, the only difference is he hit it near Sinner.

  • @Mr7Poz
    @Mr7Poz Рік тому

    Bang on as always Gill. Bad mental toughness from Zverev.

  • @Videolistener
    @Videolistener Рік тому

    Can you talk about the Sinner / Rune match?

  • @sandranastia
    @sandranastia Рік тому

    OK I watched the match. I’m relatively new to tennis. Can someone explain to me the advantage Meddy got (if any) cause I don’t really see it. But if I’m wrong let me know! I’m just trying to understand the real issue here. Or is it just two players beefing?

  • @JeliOra
    @JeliOra Рік тому +1

    You're so fun in this video 😅❤

  • @hjander
    @hjander Рік тому

    Monday Match Tabloid?

  • @b.7090
    @b.7090 Рік тому +4

    Putting aside the fact that Daniil gets away with some stuff that others would get punished for, I do think he's smart and he often operates on a very grey line between what is allowed by the rules and what isn't.
    Yet, he did throw the ball more than once with anger against the boards - he did it again the day after vs Rune.
    He did it on MP as well. The net thing was funny and quirky for the Internet. Okay, fine. I did laugh as well even though the moment was particular because I like Daniil a lot (yes, he's smart, I enjoy his tennis and I find him funny). But other players wouldn't get the same treatment for all of this stuff tbh.
    Plus, Zverev's entire point was that this was reiterated. I think this match was just what made him burst out.
    That being said, he should have obviously closed out the match and not get distracted.
    What irks me is that you picked apart every single thing Zverev said, but Daniil is just smart.
    At the end of the day, Zverev could have been right or wrong, but he criticised Daniil's actions on court. Daniil went a bit off-topic for me and didn't stick to tennis - and Zverev made some mistakes in the past on a tennis court, he's no angel, just like Daniil did - and he wasn't exactly saying things correctly (e.g. when he talked about the wife thing, Zverev never said they were friends. He only said that they'd known each other for a long time/since juniors. That's totally different. Plus, he tends to mention everyone he knows when he plays a final against someone he's known for a long time, see Montpellier against Bublik where he also mentioned Bublik's wife).

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому +2

      You tube video by Beanyman News where he directly says that we're great friends, and then corrects himself and says we're friends. (I find the whole wife comments creepy especially considering the timing of those comments.)

    • @b.7090
      @b.7090 Рік тому

      @@mrsjake1828 I was referring to the part where Dania says Zverev said he's friends with his wife as well. He's never said that. Look at the ceremonies. Daniil and Sascha were friends when they were younger. Both said that. The relationship obviously deteriorated over time. Frankly, that's their business and I couldn't care less. But Daniil put his wife in the middle and Zverev never claimed to be friends with her, but people on social media latched onto that part specifically.
      You can find those creepy, but there was disinformation around those quotes on social media. And to be fair, if he plays in a final against someone he knows and whose family he knows, he tends to mentions everyone - again, Bublik's wife in Montpellier. I think he thinks it would be rude not to mention someone he'd known for years, regardless of the depth of the relationship. But the words got totally twisted even by some journalist who started spreading fake news on that.

  • @Graziano45
    @Graziano45 Рік тому

    Zverev talking about sportsmanship? 😂😂😂

  • @Xerkun
    @Xerkun Рік тому +1

    Gossip queen! 😂😂😂 jk
    Love your work, Gill!

  • @payamirani5298
    @payamirani5298 Рік тому +2

    Meddy is going to make a master litigator after he retires from Tennis. He also taught me a new English word that I thought he was mispronouncing and had to look up....Siffling

    • @freshname
      @freshname Рік тому

      What's the word. I couldn't google up that sniffling thing

    • @payamirani5298
      @payamirani5298 Рік тому

      @@freshname Siffle: to blow or speak with a sibilant sound : whistle, hiss.

    • @notturno3448
      @notturno3448 Рік тому +2

      👍haha...I did the same 😂

  • @JG-vc8br
    @JG-vc8br 7 місяців тому

    Very well said!!!!

  • @balajisubramanian9940
    @balajisubramanian9940 Рік тому

    Humans are highly perception driven and we don't look at instances in silos. While it might appear logical to individually look into each statement and analyse if Medvedev is right or wrong, life doesn't work that way.
    His antics with the crowd in the past, kicking the camera,etc has already painted him as fragile competitor with whom the crowd can play with. And with the recent incident its only going to get tougher for him in the future.

  • @marcelredplanet3765
    @marcelredplanet3765 Рік тому

    Totally agree.

  • @TheBigBaryshnikov
    @TheBigBaryshnikov Рік тому +4

    the funny thing is that zverev and medvedev are both completely right. zverev has a long history of acting like a spoiled child, and medvedev is a serial complainer who goes over the line using bully tactics, all the time. medvedev gets away with more because he is more liked/respected amongst his peers, but both of them are absolute tragedies and both need to be better.

  • @MiddleAgedTennisFan
    @MiddleAgedTennisFan Рік тому

    "My main takeaway ...is how fragile Zverev is as a competitor.... he genuinely feels he's been wronged....[he] is no way is he a victim of any kind...I'd be very careful picking a fight with Daniil" EXACTLY. Rather than dump on Zverev like I want to, I'll leave it at that.

  • @airic21
    @airic21 Рік тому

    Indeed real dynamics of playing for xxxxxx amount of money is what should be displayed out on the open... I hope tennis continues in this direction.

  • @br1729
    @br1729 Рік тому

    It makes no sense to say that your first takeaway from Zverev’s comments in the post-match interview is that Zverev is a fragile competitor when, as you note, he actually won games after the alleged acts of bad sportsmanship.

  • @brengray2453
    @brengray2453 Рік тому +5

    Love the beef, and love the coverage, Gill! 😁

  • @MrOsmanaujiram
    @MrOsmanaujiram Рік тому +2

    Just because zverev held his nerve and won games after the bathroom break doesn’t mean it couldn’t have gone the other way for him. It’s still messed up.

  • @Frl.Rottenmeier
    @Frl.Rottenmeier Рік тому

    I miss off court tensions like in the McEnroe Connors era. And Zverev was right in this case. Medvedev put some confusion into the match, at crucial stages. Zverev was even told to go to toilet to get his Insulin and not to do it on court. All those little things during the match pissed him understandably off which I think is why he lost at the end. He served twice for the match and had match points in the third´s tie break. A match he should have won.

  • @MrAtaguas
    @MrAtaguas Рік тому +1

    Zverev just likes to cry and complain i didnt even bother looking into this just assumed he was being his usual narcissistic self

  • @MrCWL
    @MrCWL Рік тому

    The net stick knock over was really funny actually. Just because he kept double faulting break point down, was really shocking that he did it the second time, then goes over and coldly but gently dislodges the stick to say he needs some help not double faulting, no wonder Bernardes didn't warn him, it was a light hearted joke, even if he had to fix the stick, he actually has to even if Medvedev tried to fix it first (umpire needs to finally verify it's the right height/point)... i mean this is such an obvious joke and even Zverev laughed at the time. Only complained later when he lost, never would have if he'd won. Thought it was such a Daniil thing to do and really glad we have people like him at the top of the game where he's keeping it a bit more real haha

  • @michaelnurse9089
    @michaelnurse9089 Рік тому +1

    Different personalities have different sensitivity to things. They are born that way and can't easily change it. Zverev and Tsitsipas are high. Medvedev and Krygios are low. A hi low playing each other is always a powder keg for drama.

    • @michaelnurse9089
      @michaelnurse9089 Рік тому +1

      They should take a leaf out of Rublev's book - he is sensitive to things but he has a little conversation with himself and reassures himself things are acceptable or ok - he does not let it get out of control.

    • @SA-np5yy
      @SA-np5yy Рік тому +6

      @@michaelnurse9089 If what you mean by "a little conversation with himself" is beating himself up and hitting himself with a racket then you would be correct, although he has recently been getting it more under control.

  • @l.rongardner2150
    @l.rongardner2150 Рік тому

    I think that Stefan Tsitsipas should be appointed to arbitrate the Zverev/Medvedev beef.

  • @rdjdszybcior2194
    @rdjdszybcior2194 Рік тому +2

    Who does not love a good drama? 'xd Enjoy everyone !!!!

  • @EyeColorAnalyzerUnika
    @EyeColorAnalyzerUnika Рік тому +1

    Simply because Daniil's bathroom break didn't negatively affect Alex doesn't mean Daniil didn't intend for it have a negative effect on Alex.

  • @chriskershaw4164
    @chriskershaw4164 Рік тому

    Good Stuff. Hee Hee. I could tell by that cold handshake Zverev was gong to fuss about this. Zverev should have won the match so it would all be a mute point. Zverev 's ranking is about to go south unless he has some great results in the next 3 weeks. Meddy can be a awhole sometimes but that's up to the umpire to handle.

  • @eht7450
    @eht7450 Рік тому +2

    I'm a bit sympathetic to Zverev only because I watched all of the Medvedev matches in Indian Wells. In all of them he took bathroom breaks at times when the opponent was doing well. It seems like he is playing mental games by doing things that he can skirt by without getting infractions, or can excuse. Maybe it's smart... I don't know.

  • @annonimus1234
    @annonimus1234 Рік тому

    Zverev russian german worst combo of all time plus girl boxer. What an amazing human being

  • @zy964c
    @zy964c Рік тому +4

    When they met at the net for that cold handshake Medvedev said to Zverev in Russian: “I’m sorry, I acted like a piece of shit”

    • @safdsafify
      @safdsafify Рік тому

      Well that incident at the net was weird!! Also👀about a month or so ago it was in the media that the two couples were hanging out together at some event..
      If not friend's why did they all go out....??

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому

      @@safdsafify I follow Medvedev pretty closely, but I don't recall any such article. However, since they both live in Monaco, it would seem likely that they would both end up at the same event at the same time, but not necessarily "hanging out together" there.

    • @safdsafify
      @safdsafify Рік тому

      @@mrsjake1828 well there were pictures of them sitting close together...am sure you can find them👍

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому

      @@safdsafify I'll have to look.

  • @michaelnurse9089
    @michaelnurse9089 Рік тому +3

    How do you know for certain Medvedev actually peed?

    • @Cloudgazer-b7n
      @Cloudgazer-b7n Рік тому +9

      Why don't u go investigate it? It's looks promising, im cheering for you. You can also make a conspiracy theory out of this on a fly. Good luck🤪

    • @vasterasgurkan
      @vasterasgurkan Рік тому

      It was a too short of a time to take a shit or jerk off.

  • @iceescape
    @iceescape Рік тому +2

    They're both spoiled brats. Zverev had some fair points about Medvedev's antics/gamesmenship but he probably wouldn't have brought them up if he had won. Medvedev always has something nasty to say about others except for Nadal and Alcaraz, who both are great champions and people (and who both own him in tennis).

  • @notturno3448
    @notturno3448 Рік тому

    Spot on Gill!
    What a joke...Zverev or Tsitsipas lecturing/accusing anyone of bad sportsmanship 🤣

  • @Onanastic
    @Onanastic Рік тому +1

    Zverev really thought he was a good kid, huh? You don’t mess with the bullshit Russian.

  • @matthewdsouza8891
    @matthewdsouza8891 Рік тому +1

    Alot of tennis media/podcasts have dived into the Medvedev comment distancing any friendship.
    I may be totally wrong but the clips I have of Zverev is that he never mentioned being friends, he simply said they've known each other a long time.
    I get Zverev isn't liked by many sections of the Media, but I don't like how it's been reported.
    Many saying that Zverev wanted to give the impression he and Danil's wife were friends to protect himself from the allegations. This is a complete stretch of the imagination. Again, I don't believe he has ever said they were friends.

    • @Cloudgazer-b7n
      @Cloudgazer-b7n Рік тому +1

      They had close relationship before. One of the reasons is that Meddy wife and Zverev ex, had been friends during junior years in tennis. Then ironically they also got the beef going. This beef affected Meddy and Zverev relationship. I think it was after that episode their relationship cooled off.

    • @mrsjake1828
      @mrsjake1828 Рік тому

      A video right here on you tube by Beanyman News interview where he says We're very good friends and then says we're friends.

  • @SunshineSlappySmackie
    @SunshineSlappySmackie Рік тому +1

    Medvedev knows zverev is how you say a small cat! Zverev thinks he is a good kid! look at me ayy look at me huh why don't you look at me Sasha! he started it, he started it, yes he started it he called me unfair you think this is normal! he is just a small cat that can't serve out a match!
    Daniil is the beef goat!

  • @susandiana4172
    @susandiana4172 Рік тому

    Actually I think that Stefanos is just as bad as Sasha. I'll never forget Stef hitting balls right at Nick (Wimbledon last year) and afterwards accusing Nick of being a bully!! And I'll never forget Stef attacking his dad (who was sitting on court I think), and another time, yelling abuse at his parents. Despite his record numerous disruptions, Nick was actually quite well behaved at Wimbledon, and certainly wasn't bullying his opponents. He tends to verbally "bully'' umpires and his box, and to physically abuse rackets and, on-court objects, like chairs; speaking of which, I will always remember Danil attacking that camera that got in his way; hilarious! Lots of players behave badly at times, but in my opinion, Stef and Sasha seem to be the most bratty.

  • @ghbnhghjk
    @ghbnhghjk Рік тому

    It wasn't a monkey gesture he was saying the French smell.

  • @blackkitty9054
    @blackkitty9054 Рік тому +4

    Don't mess up with Medvedev, Gill, do you mean he should be allowed to do whatever he wants and get away with it? He is constantly crossing the line and people call him funny. He is no different from Kyrgios, Tsitsispas or Zverev.

    • @saxonchess3293
      @saxonchess3293 Рік тому +11

      Not an accurate comparison at all. I watch most Medvedev matches and very rarely does he do anything crossing the line and even on the rare occasions he does it's nothing like what especially Zverev and Nick do. I mean Zverev basically assaulted an umpire and is constantly acting like a prick on court, Nick and Tsitsipas go without mentioning because it's so obvious.

    • @GillGross
      @GillGross  Рік тому +9

      Woah, never said he should be allowed to do whatever he wants. Did say he should be allowed to take a piss during the changeover!

    • @justusbeweel1109
      @justusbeweel1109 Рік тому +1

      Crossing the line means breaking the rules. He rarely does it. Zverev is just a bad competitor and a sore loser .

    • @Cloudgazer-b7n
      @Cloudgazer-b7n Рік тому

      @@saxonchess3293forget it. He can't be objective on the topic. He made 3 different comments that makes little sense and shows obvious hostility. We have a hater here.

    • @Nat-le4um
      @Nat-le4um Рік тому +5

      I love Gill's coverage, always listen to his broadcasts. I agree that Zverev overreacted here, but it was right after the match which he should have won. I don't think he would say it the next day. But Gill, what bothers me is that Medvedev didn't get any warning for smacking the ball, spitting on court, removing the net pole, and that people find Medvedev's antics funny and cute, but Kyrgios's behavior always looked at as disgusting and disrespectful. Medvedev did the same in IW, pretty bad, childish behavior, and wasn't called on it there either.
      Also, Medvedev's on court comment that Zverev should have done better could have triggered his response. Don't remember Rafa saying that Medvedev should have done better in AO, or Novak saying Tsitsipas should have done better in FO. That was harsh from Medvedev

  • @raywill8638
    @raywill8638 Рік тому +3

    Right so everybody let’s not be combative with Medvedev because he’s really good at defending his childish behavior lol like whaaaat ? Outside of those 3 examples Zverev cited it’s clear that Medvedev acts in ways on the court he shouldn’t.

    • @saxonchess3293
      @saxonchess3293 Рік тому +8

      Yeah it's a good thing that Zverev is always displaying good sportsmanship on the court and is definitely not being hypocritical calling out Medvedev 😂

  • @RapsProdigy
    @RapsProdigy Рік тому

    This reminds me of the Tsitsipas/Kyrgios beef during Wimbledon. both Tsitsipas and Zverev are clearly sore losers. especially in the Tsitsipas example, he was the one firing balls into the crowd and at Kyrgios. Zverev didn't pull anything like that but his comments afterwards reminded me of Tsitsipas calling Kyrgios a "bully" when Stef was actually the one instigating things. Zverev just seems sour to have lost another close match to Meddy, imo.

  • @blackkitty9054
    @blackkitty9054 Рік тому +1

    So Medvedev is saint and Zverev a villian.

    • @Bukssy_
      @Bukssy_ Рік тому

      No, Medvedev did a weird thing with the net and likes to antagonize the crowd and Zverev is a whiny b*tch.

    • @Spacejuno
      @Spacejuno Рік тому +11

      One of them directly assaulted an umpire one of them was accused of domestic violence, one of them was almost taken out of custody of his son by his his girlfriend. Who might that be ? Coincidence ? Maybe. But I think zverev has really deep troubles inside his mind

    • @standwithukraine7925
      @standwithukraine7925 Рік тому +6

      did u even watch the whole video? gill didn't paint medvedev as an angel at all.

    • @shivanisemwal176
      @shivanisemwal176 Рік тому +1

      Ofcourse. Who smashed racket on chair umpire?

  • @WickedRichie
    @WickedRichie Рік тому

    Can't wait for their next meeting