This is why some of us are never subscribed to most of the tech channels around. You never get to hear or see anything new. It's always, "this is the best camera in any smart phone", based on the "brand name" the phone carries. Love this kind of showdown that brings actual info and proper reasons to the table and always giving credit where it's due without paying much attention to the brand name. Looking forward to the vivo X80 pro Vs Xperia 1iv show down. It just has to come through! Thank you so much
This video is so much better than I expected. Didn't exoect to learn something new as a techy and camera film student. Really well done for this video!
The next generation of film makers are going to start on phones. It's CRAZY to think that we're ALMOST carrying a digital 16mm bolex in our pockets on these premium tier phones. It's been REALLY exciting to watch.
The best phone camera vs real camera comparison review! Love your sense of humour! Fun watching your channel! Keep up the good work my friend, cheers from Malaysia!
Great to see this details discussed. It's frustrating to see stuff like Dxo doing rigorous tests but limiting it only to the most basic possible point and shoot usage (omitting stuff as simple as manually activated night mode if I'm not mistaken). Currently, the phone with the craziest aperture equivalent is Honor's Magic4 Ultimate with a 23mm F4.848 main camera. It's a shame it doesn't have a global release. The ZTE Axon 40 Ultra is also interesting for its 35mm equivalent main lens.
Thanks for the in-depth look into the Vivo X80 Pro. I am still waiting/hoping you do something similar with the Xperia I IV. Then waiting for them both to be released here in the UK. Truly great work as always Juan.
@@SomeGadgetGuy awesome. You know that so many of your followers are looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these two cameras masquerading as phones 😉
Great series. for printing 24x24 inch would the x80 pro main sensor be acceptable given its size. the megapixel count seems to suit but I don't have much experience with sensor sizes. thanks
hello, I purchased vivo because of your review and I am loving it..However ,I have a new found interest in making cinematic video ..do you think I should buy Xperia 1 IV or wait for iPhone 14 pro max
It was good to see an easily explained version of this. I did watch another one which was more indepth explaining the math to get the numbers on the lenses. The crop factor on mobile phones are creeping bear to aps-c, m43 and type 1.0 sensors.
A very useful review that takes a different approach to explain the relavtive merits of conventional cameras with mobiles. For many years I have used mobile and DSLR/Mirrorless (including the G9) and now almost exclusively shoot on my S22U and iPhone pro Max as the 'need' for the G9 becomes less relevant for my style of photography.
Phone cameras jumped in quality and functionality a couple years ago, and a lot of reviewers missed it. My Lumix don't leave my office very often these days...
Currently staring at my Canon 1x III and my Nikon D5 while watching this video... Seriously: camera manufacturers would make a huge leap forward if they were opening their software a bit... look at what Magic Lantern brought to old Canon cameras! What the improvements in phone cameras show is that better software would boost he capabilities of all the DSLR and Mirrorless on the market. Things are really getting interesting. Next up: Lumafusion will land on Android devices...
Wow! Watching this video is a fun experiences. It makes me want to tinker around with my phone’s camera even though my phone is not much of a beast. But hey, at least I got to learn new things. Thank you for the info 😘.
I do agree with you on many fronts. I often lament that my mirrorless prosumer camera lacks the software/chipset that enabled phone cams to advance in great strides in recent years... esp now that sensor size is also catching up (Xiaomi top-ender is rocking a "one-inch" sensor). That said, my 10-year-old DSLR and my 5-year-old mirrorless are likely going to last another 1 to 2 decades (apart from needing eventually replacement batteries), but I'm not sure with current phone designs, when other functional parts of the phone (OS, battery) start to deteriorate, how easy would it be to refresh it to keep for more than 5 years. My ZTE Axon 7 is now only being used to play music, while plugged into a power bank... OS has slowed down so much that really the only thing of value is the DAC/amp. No doubt, I've had my eye on the x70 pro+ and x80 pro, for my next phone. The best camera is indeed the one you brought. My big cameras only come out for work and designated photo outings.
I mean sure, but you mentioned yourself, your camera has a user replaceable battery. A camera is a RIDICULOUSLY simple gadget compared to a radio enabled pocket computer. The point I'm making here is NOT that someone should expect to completely replace a mirrorless with a phone AND expect a phone to last the same length of time as a single mirrorless body. It's to inform the shopping trends, where someone who wants a more photographic look from a phone should be shopping 2-3 year cycles with brands that truly offer those improving camera sensors and processing. Even if you have an old DSLR, you're still going to buy a phone. Folks who care about having a better camera on them at all times should be interested in better phone cameras.
Master class bro So the bigger sensor and lens really only gives some better detail in the day and better low light images? How much more detail are we talking? Something only when pixel peeping? Something that can be measured? Or is a $2400 full frame camera at f5.4 going to give only marginal quality over a $800 smartphone at this point? Also are raws worth shooting if they are 5x bigger images than a jpg but when pixel peeping the quality looks pretty much identical. Maybe more grainy. Is this only so you can edit and save copies without losing data? Lots to think about there...
Big Thanks for explaining clearly what I was thinking about yesterday, but couldn't figure out...LOL. Got mine before yesterday and had to get out and give it a try in a pouring rain evening situation.Waterproof! and I am more than impressed with the nighttime performance. Waiting for more of your interesting videos.Is there an ND filter specifically for this phone?
Man, that's crazy! I've been following you for years, and last year I decided to upgrade my phone just for the camera wasn't worth so I bought a proper camera, the Olympus M10 Mark IV which is a Micro Fourth Thirds sensor format, it just seems logical when moving from a phone to a not so large camera with not so large lenses! It'd be really fun to see some camera-focused videos in the future! Yeah, it wasn't hard to notice how much they lie about the actual aperture size, even with the kit lens at 14mm f3.5 the Bokeh was a lot more pronounced than on my LG V60.
Replay Crew. I entered the stream as the names of ur Patreon was scrolling at the end of the video 🤦🏾♂️. All these numbers I'm confused lol. But u skooled me a bit
Thank you SO much for this video!!! It took me a WHOLE year to make a decision whether to snatch this Vivo X80 beast, I was contemplating the Vivo X70 Pro+ about a year ago, then this beast came along and, along with some promotions that was going on, I went for it! Super happy to see how far mobile photography have come along!!! I had(and still have) the Oppo Reno 10X Optical Zoom before, I believe it was one of the first mobile phones to sport the 10X Optical Zoom lens combination and kept some quality at the same time. After watching your video I'm feeling even more confident about my purchase, thanks a million!
So happy that we're entering a period where bigger sensors are being normalized. Now that the chip shortage is starting to ease, I hope that next year, I will have the option to replace one of my 1/1.3" phone cameras with a 1" sensor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
I think the next "mainstream" size will be 1/1.3 - 1/1.28. Some premium phones like the Xiaomi will climb up to 1/1.12. And then following that, we'll get some more options properly arriving at 1". Gotta give Sharp SOME competition.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I was bummed that 1/1.3 got as far down as the $400 range and now they're going back to 1/1.5 and 1/1.7. But yes, with flagships pushing back closer 1" now, more affordable and widespread 1/1.3s should be inbound!
Back in those days, we used to bring those little digital point and shoot cameras. And 1 family only has 1 of those, picture came out alright, the only weak point is the night pictures are horrible. Nowadays even the kids have a phone that can shoot better than the family camera back then… Crazy times if you ask me.
Dear Juan, As the most objective tech reviewer on UA-cam, which phone would you recommend for photography (not too bothered about video) between the Xperia 1 IV or this Vivo? I do love the headphone jack, notification light etc. You have used both phones, so I would take your advice as verbatim. Many thanks.
JUST photography? It still kinda depends on what YOU like on a camera, and how much you'll use the multiple sensors on the back. Things like controls, auto focus, wide and telephoto performance, shouldn't be taken lightly. But if you think you live mostly on the main sensor, I'd lean vivo.
There is another factor here that is worth mentioning. The sharpness of the lens. Although you are right that in terms of brightness and field of view the two cameras will be the same,I suspect that in their respective wide end the lens of the Panasonic will be sharper than the X80 Pro's. I suspect it I don't know it for a fact cause I possess only the smartphone. So the image will not be exactly the same. Despite the fact that the lens is made of glass in the X80 Pro I believe they will implement more sophisticated glass on the camera which partly justify the price difference. Still a very worthy camera on the X80 Pro.
I've had android since galaxy s, recently tried an apple se and though there may be apple fans out there...I've been using it for over a year to give it a shot...not for me! I plan on getting the Note 20...or current model? Still deciding which model note 20 or 22 is best for the money!
Funny how you compared the specs but rarely compared the actual pictures. Most scenes have no clear indicator if it's the phone or camera taking it. I wish you added the picture / video comparison, liked the maths break down tho
As soon as you tell someone the answers, they make excuses. If you can't tell which is which optically, based on depth of field and focus, then would it matter which you used?
My biggest gripe for mobile phone photography and videography is that almost all brands have removed expandable memory slot from their top tier phones. If phones are to function more like cameras, then all the more to bring back expandable storage. I guess back to Sony Xperia.
Sony is the last choice left to vote with your wallet. At the same time we have to protect features like better file management, if we're going to be able to do things like back up easily to external storage.
Hello brother! I recently bought a x80 pro, I'm highly interested in astrophotography as hobby.. Pls share a detailed video for mobile photography through phone 🙏 Love❤️ from INDIA 🇮🇳
Hi Juan I have a new duo 1 sitting in the box unused and I value your opinion, so I too would like to see you do a video mainly based on the update and your recent use, to help me decide whether I should keep it or not. Thanks in advance.
I wish Vivo phones fully supported T-Mobile in the USA. I find that my OnePlus 9 gets me most of what I want when I'm on the run and don't want to bring a larger camera. I like that you also shoot with Lumix M43 cameras. I use a G9, G95, and GX85 with a variety of fast Lumix, PL, and Olympus glass, and I don't care to move up to FF.
@@asianverse7313 not if they use a snapdragon chipset. It's just a matter of having antennas that support the frequencies and getting the device in for certification. It's that last part that is likely the reason. Certification is costly.
Hey guys, I have the vivo x80 pro Indian variant and I have att service, I can't dial out or get calls, yet messaging and 4g is working fine! I can access the internet and send and receive messages! Called att a million times and they couldn't get it to work, any suggestion??
@@SomeGadgetGuy thats a bummer. I don't understand why they would do such a thing but I guess they want you to buy AT&t branded phones so they can make their margins. Well I guess Tmobile is my next stop I'm seeing that everything but 5g works on TMobile
@@SomeGadgetGuy after looking at this video I went back and looked at a couple of the older videos of the Lumia 1520 and 1020 some of the features those phones had wow just absolutely wow. When we lose players like that (Nokia and LG) I think it's to the detriment of the public, It's companies like those that force others to up their game. few tech reviewers seem to understand this unless it's iPhone or Samsung then you might as well throw it away.
I've been an lg user for years and years now it's time for new and I don't know what phone to go with please help man. I know you were an lg guy for awhile
If you were on V50 or V60, unfortunately there is no ONE phone that can COMPLETELY replace everything a V60 can do. Sony is strong. Vivo is looking real good. Moto is solid. There are some solid options out there, you just have to choose specific features you care about most.
Oh no. I think we've got better lens performance around flaring, and the better stabilization on the portrait sensor is appreciated, but otherwise, if you aren't into the new AI processing modes, they are VERY similar. The X70 Pro+ is still a MONSTER performer today.
The best camera comparison I've seen in a while
This is why some of us are never subscribed to most of the tech channels around. You never get to hear or see anything new. It's always, "this is the best camera in any smart phone", based on the "brand name" the phone carries.
Love this kind of showdown that brings actual info and proper reasons to the table and always giving credit where it's due without paying much attention to the brand name.
Looking forward to the vivo X80 pro Vs Xperia 1iv show down. It just has to come through!
Thank you so much
I think this single video is the greatest selling point for this phone for people who love playing around with photography on their phones
This video is so much better than I expected. Didn't exoect to learn something new as a techy and camera film student. Really well done for this video!
The next generation of film makers are going to start on phones. It's CRAZY to think that we're ALMOST carrying a digital 16mm bolex in our pockets on these premium tier phones. It's been REALLY exciting to watch.
Loving it Juan! Keep up the intellectual videos the most popular UA-camrs don’t make.
The best phone camera vs real camera comparison review! Love your sense of humour! Fun watching your channel! Keep up the good work my friend, cheers from Malaysia!
Love the video man, keep it up. Such an amazing colab
This was a great lesson! Nice work!
Just got my vivo X80 Pro last week and am loving this thing to death! 😍
Im stuck between the x80pro and the zte axon40ultra
I really dig your style of explaining differences between "cameras" and cameras.
I was waiting for this video!
Great Job Juan!!
This is a true review about a phone camera. I like it.
Great to see this details discussed. It's frustrating to see stuff like Dxo doing rigorous tests but limiting it only to the most basic possible point and shoot usage (omitting stuff as simple as manually activated night mode if I'm not mistaken).
Currently, the phone with the craziest aperture equivalent is Honor's Magic4 Ultimate with a 23mm F4.848 main camera. It's a shame it doesn't have a global release. The ZTE Axon 40 Ultra is also interesting for its 35mm equivalent main lens.
Ugh I know. I want to play with one SO BAD.
Thanks for the in-depth look into the Vivo X80 Pro. I am still waiting/hoping you do something similar with the Xperia I IV. Then waiting for them both to be released here in the UK.
Truly great work as always Juan.
Friday I'm publishing an XPERIA vs vivo camera comparison. Stay tuned.
@@SomeGadgetGuy awesome. You know that so many of your followers are looking forward to hearing your thoughts on these two cameras masquerading as phones 😉
@@SomeGadgetGuy can u upload super raw night shots from the vivo at iso50 plz!!! That's so sick. Night mode is dead
Flawless again Juan, this Vs the 12s ultra is going to be one interesting comparison!
Great series. for printing 24x24 inch would the x80 pro main sensor be acceptable given its size. the megapixel count seems to suit but I don't have much experience with sensor sizes. thanks
This is the best explanation
Vivo definitely will be on my list!
hello, I purchased vivo because of your review and I am loving it..However ,I have a new found interest in making cinematic video ..do you think I should buy Xperia 1 IV or wait for iPhone 14 pro max
I learned stuff. Thanks JC 🚀
😊👍
A Big thanks for sharing the number's. More of this on all future launch phone. Thanks
Where can I buy this phone online Juan?
It was good to see an easily explained version of this. I did watch another one which was more indepth explaining the math to get the numbers on the lenses. The crop factor on mobile phones are creeping bear to aps-c, m43 and type 1.0 sensors.
I honestly didn't believe it at first when I saw the crop was 3.5.
@@SomeGadgetGuy that sounds about the same as the s21/s22 ultra hm3 sensor although clearly not as well implemented on those devices.
Exactly. VERY similar in size. 1/1.3" ish sensors all around. I don't enjoy Sammy processing, but the RAW files off that main camera are STUNNING.
This video is damn impressive! I'm speechless, kudos.
I really like that new style of video !
A very useful review that takes a different approach to explain the relavtive merits of conventional cameras with mobiles. For many years I have used mobile and DSLR/Mirrorless (including the G9) and now almost exclusively shoot on my S22U and iPhone pro Max as the 'need' for the G9 becomes less relevant for my style of photography.
Phone cameras jumped in quality and functionality a couple years ago, and a lot of reviewers missed it. My Lumix don't leave my office very often these days...
Currently staring at my Canon 1x III and my Nikon D5 while watching this video... Seriously: camera manufacturers would make a huge leap forward if they were opening their software a bit... look at what Magic Lantern brought to old Canon cameras! What the improvements in phone cameras show is that better software would boost he capabilities of all the DSLR and Mirrorless on the market. Things are really getting interesting. Next up: Lumafusion will land on Android devices...
Loading up magic lantern on my 7D, damn that takes me back.
This video is so educational for my dumb brain 🤣
This was a fun one!
good job juan all the best from serbia bye
Wow! Watching this video is a fun experiences. It makes me want to tinker around with my phone’s camera even though my phone is not much of a beast. But hey, at least I got to learn new things. Thank you for the info 😘.
Amazing video.. Thx a lot💜👌
I was expecting more comparisons...? Informative video nonetheless
I do agree with you on many fronts. I often lament that my mirrorless prosumer camera lacks the software/chipset that enabled phone cams to advance in great strides in recent years... esp now that sensor size is also catching up (Xiaomi top-ender is rocking a "one-inch" sensor).
That said, my 10-year-old DSLR and my 5-year-old mirrorless are likely going to last another 1 to 2 decades (apart from needing eventually replacement batteries), but I'm not sure with current phone designs, when other functional parts of the phone (OS, battery) start to deteriorate, how easy would it be to refresh it to keep for more than 5 years.
My ZTE Axon 7 is now only being used to play music, while plugged into a power bank... OS has slowed down so much that really the only thing of value is the DAC/amp.
No doubt, I've had my eye on the x70 pro+ and x80 pro, for my next phone. The best camera is indeed the one you brought. My big cameras only come out for work and designated photo outings.
I mean sure, but you mentioned yourself, your camera has a user replaceable battery. A camera is a RIDICULOUSLY simple gadget compared to a radio enabled pocket computer. The point I'm making here is NOT that someone should expect to completely replace a mirrorless with a phone AND expect a phone to last the same length of time as a single mirrorless body. It's to inform the shopping trends, where someone who wants a more photographic look from a phone should be shopping 2-3 year cycles with brands that truly offer those improving camera sensors and processing.
Even if you have an old DSLR, you're still going to buy a phone. Folks who care about having a better camera on them at all times should be interested in better phone cameras.
Master class bro
So the bigger sensor and lens really only gives some better detail in the day and better low light images?
How much more detail are we talking? Something only when pixel peeping? Something that can be measured? Or is a $2400 full frame camera at f5.4 going to give only marginal quality over a $800 smartphone at this point?
Also are raws worth shooting if they are 5x bigger images than a jpg but when pixel peeping the quality looks pretty much identical. Maybe more grainy. Is this only so you can edit and save copies without losing data?
Lots to think about there...
Big Thanks for explaining clearly what I was thinking about yesterday, but couldn't figure out...LOL. Got mine before yesterday and had to get out and give it a try in a pouring rain evening situation.Waterproof! and I am more than impressed with the nighttime performance. Waiting for more of your interesting videos.Is there an ND filter specifically for this phone?
Man, that's crazy! I've been following you for years, and last year I decided to upgrade my phone just for the camera wasn't worth so I bought a proper camera, the Olympus M10 Mark IV which is a Micro Fourth Thirds sensor format, it just seems logical when moving from a phone to a not so large camera with not so large lenses!
It'd be really fun to see some camera-focused videos in the future!
Yeah, it wasn't hard to notice how much they lie about the actual aperture size, even with the kit lens at 14mm f3.5 the Bokeh was a lot more pronounced than on my LG V60.
Replay Crew. I entered the stream as the names of ur Patreon was scrolling at the end of the video 🤦🏾♂️. All these numbers I'm confused lol. But u skooled me a bit
You can always watch a second time. Or a third. Or as MANY as you need to get there 😁
Thank you SO much for this video!!! It took me a WHOLE year to make a decision whether to snatch this Vivo X80 beast, I was contemplating the Vivo X70 Pro+ about a year ago, then this beast came along and, along with some promotions that was going on, I went for it! Super happy to see how far mobile photography have come along!!! I had(and still have) the Oppo Reno 10X Optical Zoom before, I believe it was one of the first mobile phones to sport the 10X Optical Zoom lens combination and kept some quality at the same time. After watching your video I'm feeling even more confident about my purchase, thanks a million!
I saw x70pro there. What do you say for it in 2022? Do you like x70pro than ip13promax?
Phenomenal video quality! Also, the lady in the video is gorgeous.
So happy that we're entering a period where bigger sensors are being normalized. Now that the chip shortage is starting to ease, I hope that next year, I will have the option to replace one of my 1/1.3" phone cameras with a 1" sensor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg!
I think the next "mainstream" size will be 1/1.3 - 1/1.28. Some premium phones like the Xiaomi will climb up to 1/1.12. And then following that, we'll get some more options properly arriving at 1". Gotta give Sharp SOME competition.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I was bummed that 1/1.3 got as far down as the $400 range and now they're going back to 1/1.5 and 1/1.7.
But yes, with flagships pushing back closer 1" now, more affordable and widespread 1/1.3s should be inbound!
Can you compare the camera of the X80 pro to Xiaomi Mi 12s please. Thank you!
Great video, especially the math,😉
computation photography can be added to other mainstream cameras too
And yet they don't...
Eagerly waiting
Looks amazing!
It's REAL good.
nicely done.
Nice review.. Haha No boring so nerdy part
Back in those days, we used to bring those little digital point and shoot cameras.
And 1 family only has 1 of those, picture came out alright, the only weak point is the night pictures are horrible.
Nowadays even the kids have a phone that can shoot better than the family camera back then…
Crazy times if you ask me.
It's kind of amazing. How much improved that point and shoot experience is.
Dear Juan,
As the most objective tech reviewer on UA-cam, which phone would you recommend for photography (not too bothered about video) between the Xperia 1 IV or this Vivo? I do love the headphone jack, notification light etc. You have used both phones, so I would take your advice as verbatim. Many thanks.
JUST photography? It still kinda depends on what YOU like on a camera, and how much you'll use the multiple sensors on the back. Things like controls, auto focus, wide and telephoto performance, shouldn't be taken lightly. But if you think you live mostly on the main sensor, I'd lean vivo.
Can wait to see if Vivo surpasses the G7 in this sequel!
There is another factor here that is worth mentioning. The sharpness of the lens. Although you are right that in terms of brightness and field of view the two cameras will be the same,I suspect that in their respective wide end the lens of the Panasonic will be sharper than the X80 Pro's. I suspect it I don't know it for a fact cause I possess only the smartphone. So the image will not be exactly the same. Despite the fact that the lens is made of glass in the X80 Pro I believe they will implement more sophisticated glass on the camera which partly justify the price difference. Still a very worthy camera on the X80 Pro.
Amazingly informative! Thanks for the math lol
Has anyone done the maths compared to stand alone cameras for the next bread of photography focused phones? The Xperia 1V and Mi 13 Ultra?
I've had android since galaxy s, recently tried an apple se and though there may be apple fans out there...I've been using it for over a year to give it a shot...not for me! I plan on getting the Note 20...or current model? Still deciding which model note 20 or 22 is best for the money!
Funny how you compared the specs but rarely compared the actual pictures. Most scenes have no clear indicator if it's the phone or camera taking it.
I wish you added the picture / video comparison, liked the maths break down tho
Well you tell me. Optically which was the phone and which was the lumix?
@@SomeGadgetGuy You should totally do a blind camera test and show the answers at the end, would be fun .
As soon as you tell someone the answers, they make excuses. If you can't tell which is which optically, based on depth of field and focus, then would it matter which you used?
Damn hell of a job i would buy this if it had a aux port im on the fence just waiting for xperia now
Sigh... For reals though. Sony is the LAST option to still vote with your wallet on a headphone jack.
A video for camera nerds, Hardly any videos like this from smartphone reviewers. Awesome... I gotta work out the math though 😂
Make sure you check my numbers FOR SURE 😁
this is what I mean when I say I want a dslr to phone comparison
How to get the actual focal length of iPhone 12 Pro and x80 Pro?
Great camera but the images were just too soft for me ended up taking it back. 😭. And sadly software is really poor. Funtouch os isn't it....
Damn Juan, you got winded from changing cameras? Be best my friend, be best. :D
My biggest gripe for mobile phone photography and videography is that almost all brands have removed expandable memory slot from their top tier phones. If phones are to function more like cameras, then all the more to bring back expandable storage. I guess back to Sony Xperia.
Sony is the last choice left to vote with your wallet. At the same time we have to protect features like better file management, if we're going to be able to do things like back up easily to external storage.
Hello brother! I recently bought a x80 pro, I'm highly interested in astrophotography as hobby.. Pls share a detailed video for mobile photography through phone
🙏 Love❤️ from INDIA 🇮🇳
And next, let's make a video about surface duo again
That new update though.
WOW.
Hi Juan
I have a new duo 1 sitting in the box unused and I value your opinion, so I too would like to see you do a video mainly based on the update and your recent use, to help me decide whether I should keep it or not. Thanks in advance.
Hey there, how does it stuck up against the Sony Xperia 1 IV?
Video tomorrow 😁
@@SomeGadgetGuy Awesome, huge Sony fan, and super fan of your content, thanks for the effort and quality content. Algerian FAN.
I wish Vivo phones fully supported T-Mobile in the USA. I find that my OnePlus 9 gets me most of what I want when I'm on the run and don't want to bring a larger camera. I like that you also shoot with Lumix M43 cameras. I use a G9, G95, and GX85 with a variety of fast Lumix, PL, and Olympus glass, and I don't care to move up to FF.
My G9 is doing me JUST fine 😊
@@SomeGadgetGuy no doubt
Kinda hard for Chinese phones to support full band coverage in the USA I think, with the current trade war going on and stuff....
@@asianverse7313 not if they use a snapdragon chipset. It's just a matter of having antennas that support the frequencies and getting the device in for certification. It's that last part that is likely the reason. Certification is costly.
@@glsracer I see what you mean, it's all about certification then, isn't it?
Vivo X80 Pro or Oppo Find X5 Pro??
damn, imho the vivo has the better cameras than the sony's, though I wanna know your thoughts on it Juan, hoping for a comparison vid.
Is it really worth to pay the price difference for the pro instead of just X80?
realme gt neo 3 global version review please!
6:58 which on is vivo?
You tell me.
You know you could buy this phone a thousand times and still spend less money than trying to get through Diablo immortal!
HA!
Hey guys, I have the vivo x80 pro Indian variant and I have att service, I can't dial out or get calls, yet messaging and 4g is working fine! I can access the internet and send and receive messages! Called att a million times and they couldn't get it to work, any suggestion??
Unfortunately no. ATT has become the most restrictive company at present for whitelisting phones on their network.
@@SomeGadgetGuy thats a bummer. I don't understand why they would do such a thing but I guess they want you to buy AT&t branded phones so they can make their margins. Well I guess Tmobile is my next stop I'm seeing that everything but 5g works on TMobile
I often wonder If Nokia was still the powerhouse today that it once was what kinda cameras we'd have from them.
No joke. It took us YEARS to catch up to the Lumias...
@@SomeGadgetGuy after looking at this video I went back and looked at a couple of the older videos of the Lumia 1520 and 1020 some of the features those phones had wow just absolutely wow. When we lose players like that (Nokia and LG) I think it's to the detriment of the public, It's companies like those that force others to up their game. few tech reviewers seem to understand this unless it's iPhone or Samsung then you might as well throw it away.
Watching on my vivo x80pro iam from India
Nooo how are you make me wait
So making a phone with an equivalent of f2.0 is almost impossible
I think it's technically possible, but would be prohibitively expensive until we get better at folding optics or a radical new tech arrives.
I've been an lg user for years and years now it's time for new and I don't know what phone to go with please help man. I know you were an lg guy for awhile
If you were on V50 or V60, unfortunately there is no ONE phone that can COMPLETELY replace everything a V60 can do. Sony is strong. Vivo is looking real good. Moto is solid. There are some solid options out there, you just have to choose specific features you care about most.
Я перехожу на vivo x80 pro, был lg v50
Would you say the x80 pro is a big improvement over the x70 pro+? Just curious since the camera system doesn't seem to have changed much.
Oh no. I think we've got better lens performance around flaring, and the better stabilization on the portrait sensor is appreciated, but otherwise, if you aren't into the new AI processing modes, they are VERY similar. The X70 Pro+ is still a MONSTER performer today.
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