I'll give a bit of a counterpoint here. This vehicle isn't made for enthusiasts. It's made for the mainstream buyer. I find one thing that is overblown in most reviews is the amount of power or how "slow" the vehicle is. We bought a Forester Wilderness to replace our Kia Sorento Turbo and despite having considerably less power, we don't miss it at all (thought we would miss it more). It is plenty quick in normal driving. You aren't doing 0-60 runs around town. The handling around town is great. It's easy to drive, easy to park, easy to see out of and has a great AWD system. The new hybrid model might help appease some of the people who want more power, but the reality is, they dropped the XT model due to low take rates (low sales volumes). The new hybrid model will also boost fuel economy (this vehicle isn't bad on fuel, but a hybrid option at least gives people options). If you are looking for a vehicle that is capable and easy to live with as a daily driver, you'll love it. It's why Subaru has one of the best brand loyalty ratings on the market. They also have good reliability ratings and resale value. They aren't perfect (no vehicle is) but if you are in the market, try one out and see how it fits your needs before writing it off as being "too slow" or whatever.
As a 2017 Forester and 2021 Tiguan owner, I can verify it is slow. Undisputedly slow, had a hard time to pass trucks on highway. Especially those busy countryside roads, it basically impossible to make a pass. Compared with my Tiguan, it is also significantly less refined. CVT is one thing, noise control is a disaster. I also tested drive the new Forester, it is still less refined as a daily drive. Nonetheless the bad fuel economy. But I agree with you, try one out, and found out it is too slow yourself.
@@wj_desmond2252 Well, I don't find our Forester slow, and we came from a Sorento Turbo. I'm not saying it's fast, I just think the "slow" part is overblown. With 180hp, it is inline with most of its competition. These aren't sportscars, they don't need to be competing for first place in 0-60 times. That's just a marketing gimmick to get people to spend more money than they need to. Drive one of these around town, you can beat plenty of other vehicles out there around town if you need to. I do it all the time, hence why I said we don't miss the extra 80hp the Kia Sorento Turbo had over this. These vehicles aren't for spec sheet warriors or enthusiasts, they are for everyday people who want a capable, reliable vehicle they can easily live with as a daily driver.
I have an 2023 Forester touring and I love it. Yes power is not it’s strength but decent fuel economy and winter driving capability are what counts in northern Virginia Great review guys
Yes Looks like a Ford, but these are actually made well, will last 300k with maintenance & have the best Awd system. Plus Most reliable brand now per Consumer Reports.
Im actually in one of these as a loaner. Because my other subaru is getting all new gaskets, spark plugs, tube seals, front axles and seals, timing cover, CVT chain reseal. Oh and a new battery. Something light 😆
@@gizmobudayb3933 Made specifically for the USA and Canadian market maybe this type of look just appeals to that demographic, Honda's vehicles in Europe look a lot like cars they have over there they just adapt to specific markets, I do agree the rear end is just a 2020 ford explorer though
Naturally aspirated is a design choice, not necessary my preference. However turbo today is used to pump up small engines to make cheap cars ironically.
Imagine then being a Subaru buyer in Europe. You even have to pay extra for front and rear parking sensors, and thats on a 46k€ (47k USD) Subaru Forester Platinum with the top engine (150HP 2.0 i4 e-Hybrid)... Thats just sad for that price. No wonder they dont sell any cars here.
I know but They are actually a good deal many people are sleeping on them. German Suvs are double the price and not offroad compatible I will buy this one in 2 years used
Either people no longer read or their comprehension skills are sub-standard. The Forester competes with the Honda CRV LX, EX N.A. version that does 0-60 in approximately. 10 seconds. The Forester is a top safety pick and performs much better. Like a small 2.0 diesel engine, off the line acceleration is not the focus but torque at low RPMs . Reviewers (most) treat these cars the same and launch these vehicles like they are high performance sports cars. That is not the mission of this vehicle. Everyone does not want a turbo charged engine and find an 8 second 0-60 acceptable for their driving style. If there was an ACTUAL huge demand for an XT version of the Forester, Subaru would offer it. The Forester has all the latest tech Toyota has on offer but could benefit from a reskin of the UI to something more modern.
This is the most anonymous vehicle on sale today. I'm getting Ford Exploder in the front and old Mitsubishi Outlander in the rear. Anonymous blob everywhere else...
I wish VW still brought the Alltrack to North America. I have a 19 SEL top trim spec with the 1.8t new since 19, that car has been amazing. Only down side is premium fuel required and poor fuel economy. We picked up a second daily run around car, 25 Jetta SEL Premium (top spec) with the new 1.5t , punchie little engine at 150hp (30 less than Alltrack) 184ft lbs (4 more than Alltrack) but, average fuel economy for us has been 38mpg on regular (87 octane fuel). The new MK8/MK8.5 Alltrack with the fuel efficient 1.5t would make for a great versatile daily driver.
NO trim levels offer the turbo what?!?!?!?!?? Missing the XT........ re: auto vehicle hold - it rules! After having it I miss it in other cars. There is a toggle always visible on that big screen so you don't need to dig to get to it - you can see the little button toggle on at 13:05 when you enable it. That button press on/off is always there.
I refused to buy the Forester because they don’t offer the 2.4 turbo. My wife has the 2021 Outback Limited with the 2.5 and though she didn’t care… it’s to slow. I decided to go with the 2021 Legacy Touring XT and it’s so much better. I really wish they’d go back to offering it… but hopefully the hybrid version will fix this issue?
I really think the previous one looks better, more trucky. It would have been so nice if they had gone with a more square, rougher, more offroad design.
My wife bought a Subaru Ascent for the third row and safety features. It's fine but the transmission is trash and the throttle control is horrible. It does have 260 hp from the 2.5L turbo so it's at least peppy
Don’t worry Yuri! I get you on wired audio! My friend and I get high and go to the movies and watch two movies in the time in between movie we go the car to watch funny IG reels or TikToks and Bluetooth just ruins it. I use the aux for when we got vids to watch 😂
Hope you’re not suggesting it’s okay to drive to the movies while high. Nothing more ignorant and selfish than endangering other people’s lives as an impaired driver.
Why are you guys complaining about power?? Nobody is gonna care about power when it comes to these type of crossovers. This is not an enthusiasts car, unless you're going off roading, camping or overlanding, which the Forester is always good at since the beginning. My Dad had a 2018 Crosstrek Limited for over 6 years before he gave it to me 4 months ago, and I completely understand that its not fast, but that doesn't mean that its not adequate or dangerously slow. Remember... Driving slow cars fast is more fun than driving supercars slow. It's not meant to be fast like a Corvette.
until the thermal control valve failed like on my 2020 forestor and 2019 and up on the outback/legacy as well. Still dont understand why their no recall for it sigh
The start of the video was BS. It's not supposed to be fast. I have an outback that is slow, but doesn't feel that way when driven normally. I like to see it pick up speed at 2000 RPM. It does fine, and gets decent MPG..
For those of you that want a turbo, there is a price to pay in reliability. But Subaru would be my only choice for a new 2025 car with a turbo. Other manufacturers are making throw-away vehicles and consumers are too stupid to know.
Did Subaru make you wear flannel? As a Pacific Northwest resident, any Subaru (except for the EV) will sell like vegan hotcakes no matter what real-world users say about gaskets and thermal valves. Reviewers could say "it has square wheels...but comes with a complimentary park pass" and it will sell.
I didn’t buy a forester only because of that giant screen. It’s too big - too much light coming at me at night Inputs on a screen are terrible - the only input on a screen should be CarPlay. Get rid of that screen and bring back physical controls to all things (on the dash, not the console) and I’m in
So like. Are subarus really that bad in terms of long term reliability? I hear so many mixed reviews from people saying theyre some of the most reliable new cars you can get, or being constantly problematic. The CVT is definitely a downside but the Outback XT seems so appealing.
My 2019 has had zero problems at 70k miles. I think the fear is the CVT blowing (something all new cars share now) and the engine gasket problem inherent to flat-fours. I change the oil like religion, and usually ~1k mileage below the recommended. Mind you, I bought an AWD premium Impreza in 2019 for $22k. The value I've gotten from it is a pipedream considering todays market and offerings.
Subaru really needs to do something with their designs. They have some of the ugliest and boring looking cars inside and out. It's a shame because they drive pretty well
I don’t know what needs to happen to this UA-cam channel but you guys need to step it up man. I use to love this channel and it’s just seems so off lately.
It’s the same it’s always been. We’re just that consistent outlet for realistic car reviews. The cars are just worse these days and everybody is getting older
@@TheStraightPipesthat’s fair just sucks to see the viewership go down. And even Jakub mentioning it in the video on not many people watching the Subaru engine failure video. I just want you guys to be bigger cause you deserve it 🎉
Good luck, there’s almost none being built. A wagon is far better when you have infants and toddlers. The amount of bulky childcare gear - high chair, play pen, diaper bag, toys, clothing etc - you need to carry to visit family and friends for the evening is staggering.
The general value prop of Subarus makes sense to me for what would appeal to the mass market, but the looks are just so blah. Absolutely nothing cool or interesting about them. Guess it works for their buyers though.
How old is this engine now? I still remember my buddy buying a 2008 Impreza brand new, and it had this engine too. Edit: According to Google, the EJ25 enginr debuted in 2000. This engine turns 25yo this year!
What does newer engine gets you? You still drive on the same highway, same speed limit but higher grade gas requirement and more breakdowns. Why you want new ones. It’s not like new engine can take you to space. We don’t need new junks only to make them more profit. Sometimes old ones are the best
This car is boring and safe and it doesn't have to be. It can be fun and then Subaru made it even worse with that big screen with removing physical buttons.
not a clue why they still bother with such a dogshit, unreliable and annoying gearbox. just use ZF 8spd like everyone else, reliable , quiet and quicker and more efficient
I'll give a bit of a counterpoint here. This vehicle isn't made for enthusiasts. It's made for the mainstream buyer. I find one thing that is overblown in most reviews is the amount of power or how "slow" the vehicle is. We bought a Forester Wilderness to replace our Kia Sorento Turbo and despite having considerably less power, we don't miss it at all (thought we would miss it more). It is plenty quick in normal driving. You aren't doing 0-60 runs around town. The handling around town is great. It's easy to drive, easy to park, easy to see out of and has a great AWD system. The new hybrid model might help appease some of the people who want more power, but the reality is, they dropped the XT model due to low take rates (low sales volumes). The new hybrid model will also boost fuel economy (this vehicle isn't bad on fuel, but a hybrid option at least gives people options). If you are looking for a vehicle that is capable and easy to live with as a daily driver, you'll love it. It's why Subaru has one of the best brand loyalty ratings on the market. They also have good reliability ratings and resale value. They aren't perfect (no vehicle is) but if you are in the market, try one out and see how it fits your needs before writing it off as being "too slow" or whatever.
As a 2017 Forester and 2021 Tiguan owner, I can verify it is slow. Undisputedly slow, had a hard time to pass trucks on highway. Especially those busy countryside roads, it basically impossible to make a pass. Compared with my Tiguan, it is also significantly less refined. CVT is one thing, noise control is a disaster. I also tested drive the new Forester, it is still less refined as a daily drive. Nonetheless the bad fuel economy. But I agree with you, try one out, and found out it is too slow yourself.
@@wj_desmond2252 Well, I don't find our Forester slow, and we came from a Sorento Turbo. I'm not saying it's fast, I just think the "slow" part is overblown. With 180hp, it is inline with most of its competition. These aren't sportscars, they don't need to be competing for first place in 0-60 times. That's just a marketing gimmick to get people to spend more money than they need to. Drive one of these around town, you can beat plenty of other vehicles out there around town if you need to. I do it all the time, hence why I said we don't miss the extra 80hp the Kia Sorento Turbo had over this. These vehicles aren't for spec sheet warriors or enthusiasts, they are for everyday people who want a capable, reliable vehicle they can easily live with as a daily driver.
You don't always need power but when you need it, you NEED it
🤓☝
@@wj_desmond2252 If you think todays cars are slow you must have never driven an 80s or 90s car lol.
I have an 2023 Forester touring and I love it. Yes power is not it’s strength but decent fuel economy and winter driving capability are what counts in northern Virginia
Great review guys
Great car for seniors. Absolutely love it. Great visibility and easy to get in and out of. Very reliable
I agree. I drove this for a month as a loaner and it was very comfortable and capable.
Yup. Not everyone wants the latest equivalent to a Countach.
Yes Looks like a Ford, but these are actually made well, will last 300k with maintenance & have the best Awd system. Plus Most reliable brand now per Consumer Reports.
Yea I'm not sure that these will last over 300k miles, unlike my neighbors 2008 Tacoma.
Unknowingly drove through cliche corner yesterday… couldn’t believe it. Life’s good for at least a week now
We just filmed there yesterday, must’ve missed you!
I wish they still produced an XT (or better yet, an STi) version for those of us who feel the need for speed. 😎
Im actually in one of these as a loaner. Because my other subaru is getting all new gaskets, spark plugs, tube seals, front axles and seals, timing cover, CVT chain reseal. Oh and a new battery. Something light 😆
You need to tell us year and mileage.
I'm in a similar boat! 🤣Still think my 2019 is cooler though
@@tylerjohnson7825 What's going on with your 2019?
@@tylerjohnson7825 you have a 2019 that needs that much work???
This is the epitome of the “everyday car”.. not my taste, but I see a ton on the road where I live.
…and they cheaped out using the same infotainment design. Guess we’ll see that for the next 6 to 7 years
Most people buying these crossovers don’t even know what engine they have. As long as it reach the speed limit it’s ok for them.
That will be my next daily driver in 2 years
If it had a Ford badge you could barely tell the difference. This is how boring design is now.
The Explorester
Sad but true
Take a look at the 2026 Honda passport. That one looks more ford than this
It's definitely Ford looking. But at this point if your family is safe that's all you need. People aren't buying Subarus to stand out.
@@gizmobudayb3933 Made specifically for the USA and Canadian market maybe this type of look just appeals to that demographic, Honda's vehicles in Europe look a lot like cars they have over there they just adapt to specific markets, I do agree the rear end is just a 2020 ford explorer though
That is the same engine that was in our smaller, lighter, Crosstrek we owned.
The views from Portland are skyrocketing
13:43
Unless youre taking your little kids through it for fun!
But i guess thats the Dad card not the Man card 😂😂
wait am I the only one think last gen looks better?
No I agree. The previous gen had a bit more personality. This one just looks like a Ford lol
The Left Eye TLC reference was not lost on me 😂
$45k CAD and you still only get a naturally aspirated power plant. The new car market is unbelievably cooked.
So explain to me how to make these other powertrains cheaper? Sounds like you have the ability to create a better car for cheaper.
This is the top trim though. They start at $36k (all trims have the same engine).
@@jeffer1101 $36k is much more stomach able.
To be fair $45k Canadian is like $5 in real money.
Naturally aspirated is a design choice, not necessary my preference. However turbo today is used to pump up small engines to make cheap cars ironically.
The previous gen XT forester was such a fun car. I had leased one and am upset I let it go. I didn’t think they’d get rid of the turbo at the time 😢
They use the drone from this CVT as a mind torture soundtrack at Guantanamo Bay
I watched that video Yuri 👊🏼
Imagine then being a Subaru buyer in Europe. You even have to pay extra for front and rear parking sensors, and thats on a 46k€ (47k USD) Subaru Forester Platinum with the top engine (150HP 2.0 i4 e-Hybrid)... Thats just sad for that price. No wonder they dont sell any cars here.
I know but
They are actually a good deal many people are sleeping on them.
German Suvs are double the price and not offroad compatible
I will buy this one in 2 years used
Either people no longer read or their comprehension skills are sub-standard. The Forester competes with the Honda CRV LX, EX N.A. version that does 0-60 in approximately. 10 seconds.
The Forester is a top safety pick and performs much better. Like a small 2.0 diesel engine, off the line acceleration is not the focus but torque at low RPMs . Reviewers (most) treat these cars the same and launch these vehicles like they are high performance sports cars. That is not the mission of this vehicle.
Everyone does not want a turbo charged engine and find an 8 second 0-60 acceptable for their driving style. If there was an ACTUAL huge demand for an XT version of the Forester, Subaru would offer it.
The Forester has all the latest tech Toyota has on offer but could benefit from a reskin of the UI to something more modern.
What did we get wrong
No hybrid no physical hvac controls. I snooze.
At this point, I feel like keeping that same engine for so long is criminal
I miss the Forester 2.5XT from the early 2000's. sad that Subaru is below Vanilla flavored. I think hanging out with Toyota made them that way.
That cvt sound haunts my dreams
Nightmares for me 😱
It's like tinnitus but for cars lol
Fun fact about the visors. In my Outback, the whole visor shifts. Not sure why they wouldn’t just put that in this vehicle.
15:45 Totally relate for the pictures of the songs !
Easily one of the suvs of all time!
I like the CX-5.
The lambo revelto in the background is crazy
No comment on the aux port? Dang. I'd be using that full time.
Im looking forward to the hybrid version of this. Hopefully its solid. A bit more horsepower is definitely something i want in it.
This is the most anonymous vehicle on sale today. I'm getting Ford Exploder in the front and old Mitsubishi Outlander in the rear. Anonymous blob everywhere else...
I wish VW still brought the Alltrack to North America. I have a 19 SEL top trim spec with the 1.8t new since 19, that car has been amazing. Only down side is premium fuel required and poor fuel economy. We picked up a second daily run around car, 25 Jetta SEL Premium (top spec) with the new 1.5t , punchie little engine at 150hp (30 less than Alltrack) 184ft lbs (4 more than Alltrack) but, average fuel economy for us has been 38mpg on regular (87 octane fuel). The new MK8/MK8.5 Alltrack with the fuel efficient 1.5t would make for a great versatile daily driver.
9:12 its hard to believe this WOT acceleration...😂😂 Mad underpowered
A car that exists
The power band was lowered from 4000 to 3000 it borrows the rack and pinion from the WRX for steering
gonna go watch the forester flip video just to inflate the views and cheer yuri up. also would not mind more videos like that
i watched that used Subaru video, really enjoyed it. too bad it didn't do well.
Paddles are useful for mountain descents, at least. Used them on our 2020 Touring a few times.
Subaru should really review their engine strategy and start increasing the performance quite a bit......
Not according to their customers. Subaru no longer offers a turbo on the Forester because it wasn’t selling well.
@ if they won’t to grow with customers they don’t have, they have to or people like me won’t buy
1970s Subaru was the "poor man's Volvo" and it killed. A base wagon got me up and down mountain goat trails, np.
Perfectly Fine sums this car up.
My wife just got a 2025 Touring and her biggest complaint is that they scarified the garage door opener for the stupid rear view mirror.
15:25 was Yuri actually annoyed with Jakub there 😂
NO trim levels offer the turbo what?!?!?!?!?? Missing the XT........ re: auto vehicle hold - it rules! After having it I miss it in other cars. There is a toggle always visible on that big screen so you don't need to dig to get to it - you can see the little button toggle on at 13:05 when you enable it. That button press on/off is always there.
I refused to buy the Forester because they don’t offer the 2.4 turbo. My wife has the 2021 Outback Limited with the 2.5 and though she didn’t care… it’s to slow. I decided to go with the 2021 Legacy Touring XT and it’s so much better. I really wish they’d go back to offering it… but hopefully the hybrid version will fix this issue?
Why doesn’t Subaru put the turbski motor in this? I’d rather have an outback in general but especially for the turbo
Like the looks , that thing is gutless 😅
I really think the previous one looks better, more trucky. It would have been so nice if they had gone with a more square, rougher, more offroad design.
Drop the cvt, bring back buttons, and I'll buy one
Bring back the XT!
Instagram lip sync upgrade to be added in next refresh. Hehe
Not a bad car but also not competitive.
My wife bought a Subaru Ascent for the third row and safety features. It's fine but the transmission is trash and the throttle control is horrible. It does have 260 hp from the 2.5L turbo so it's at least peppy
You definitely lose you man card if you take your car to a contact wash period.
Touchless Mr man
Wasn't this launched six months ago?
Welcome to car reviews in Canada. Subaru Canada always months and months behind the Subaru USA
@TheStraightPipes Check, and thanks.
Don’t worry Yuri! I get you on wired audio! My friend and I get high and go to the movies and watch two movies in the time in between movie we go the car to watch funny IG reels or TikToks and Bluetooth just ruins it. I use the aux for when we got vids to watch 😂
Hope you’re not suggesting it’s okay to drive to the movies while high. Nothing more ignorant and selfish than endangering other people’s lives as an impaired driver.
How many cars Yuri beat for first 30 feet? There should a video about that 😂😂
Coming soon to a left lane doing 10 under near you :)
Why are you guys complaining about power?? Nobody is gonna care about power when it comes to these type of crossovers. This is not an enthusiasts car, unless you're going off roading, camping or overlanding, which the Forester is always good at since the beginning. My Dad had a 2018 Crosstrek Limited for over 6 years before he gave it to me 4 months ago, and I completely understand that its not fast, but that doesn't mean that its not adequate or dangerously slow. Remember... Driving slow cars fast is more fun than driving supercars slow. It's not meant to be fast like a Corvette.
an almost 20 minute video complaining about power, this channel is a joke.
Does Yuri ever brush his hair?
until the thermal control valve failed like on my 2020 forestor and 2019 and up on the outback/legacy as well. Still dont understand why their no recall for it sigh
Their ≠ there ≠ they're
Seriously. The power is not that bad.
It looks like a mix between the ford explorer, Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi.
Left Eye Lopez? 😭
"Viewingness" lmfao
Nice!!
Lol that launch was hilarious 😂😂 so underwhelming... Let's hope it's better on other areas
The start of the video was BS. It's not supposed to be fast. I have an outback that is slow, but doesn't feel that way when driven normally. I like to see it pick up speed at 2000 RPM. It does fine, and gets decent MPG..
For those of you that want a turbo, there is a price to pay in reliability. But Subaru would be my only choice for a new 2025 car with a turbo. Other manufacturers are making throw-away vehicles and consumers are too stupid to know.
Did Subaru make you wear flannel?
As a Pacific Northwest resident, any Subaru (except for the EV) will sell like vegan hotcakes no matter what real-world users say about gaskets and thermal valves. Reviewers could say "it has square wheels...but comes with a complimentary park pass" and it will sell.
Suburu hits the "meh" on the head! 😂
I didn’t buy a forester only because of that giant screen.
It’s too big - too much light coming at me at night
Inputs on a screen are terrible - the only input on a screen should be CarPlay.
Get rid of that screen and bring back physical controls to all things (on the dash, not the console) and I’m in
So like. Are subarus really that bad in terms of long term reliability? I hear so many mixed reviews from people saying theyre some of the most reliable new cars you can get, or being constantly problematic. The CVT is definitely a downside but the Outback XT seems so appealing.
My 2019 has had zero problems at 70k miles. I think the fear is the CVT blowing (something all new cars share now) and the engine gasket problem inherent to flat-fours. I change the oil like religion, and usually ~1k mileage below the recommended. Mind you, I bought an AWD premium Impreza in 2019 for $22k. The value I've gotten from it is a pipedream considering todays market and offerings.
This is USD I'm talking btw.
I’m not buying one expecting reliability -yuri
Stop the cvt shit
Subaru really needs to do something with their designs. They have some of the ugliest and boring looking cars inside and out. It's a shame because they drive pretty well
Isn’t that true of almost everything they’ve ever built? Subaru has always been utilitarian not stylish IMHO.
I don’t know what needs to happen to this UA-cam channel but you guys need to step it up man. I use to love this channel and it’s just seems so off lately.
It’s the same it’s always been. We’re just that consistent outlet for realistic car reviews. The cars are just worse these days and everybody is getting older
@@TheStraightPipesthat’s fair just sucks to see the viewership go down. And even Jakub mentioning it in the video on not many people watching the Subaru engine failure video. I just want you guys to be bigger cause you deserve it 🎉
So much hate. Visibility, ride comfort, and the AWD system is above the competition.
It’s a good thing we complimented those exact 3 things 😂
A CVT forester but people are mad at Jaguar? Subaru is in the closet
If my girlfriend wants a new car when we have kids I'm only buying a sedan
Why not a wagon?
Good luck, there’s almost none being built. A wagon is far better when you have infants and toddlers. The amount of bulky childcare gear - high chair, play pen, diaper bag, toys, clothing etc - you need to carry to visit family and friends for the evening is staggering.
And then once the kids leave the nest you fill that void with dogs and still need the wagon.
Unless you're getting an amazing price this car is just not worth buying. Maybe for a kids first car, you'll know they will be safe.
ROFL @ Traction Jesus.
I want to see them quote me on that
Still old bulb in 2025 ? At this price range ? This car won't sell
2 minutes ago?
Mazda is doing it better now...
subaru... never again! :))))
The general value prop of Subarus makes sense to me for what would appeal to the mass market, but the looks are just so blah. Absolutely nothing cool or interesting about them. Guess it works for their buyers though.
How old is this engine now? I still remember my buddy buying a 2008 Impreza brand new, and it had this engine too.
Edit: According to Google, the EJ25 enginr debuted in 2000. This engine turns 25yo this year!
The EJ25 was last used on the 3rd gen version. This uses the FB25, which came out in 4th gen (2014+).
What does newer engine gets you? You still drive on the same highway, same speed limit but higher grade gas requirement and more breakdowns. Why you want new ones. It’s not like new engine can take you to space. We don’t need new junks only to make them more profit. Sometimes old ones are the best
For Ester
Who buys an underpowered head gasket blower with a garbage CVT? How is this a best seller?
This redesign already looks outdated, especially the rear end.
It's so ugly
Obviously they're aiming towards fuel economy but they really should offer an engine with more performance.
They did and their customers didn’t buy enough of them to make it worthwhile.
@morstyrannis1951 Oh, well I guess they know what they're doing then making under powered fuel efficient vehicles.
This car is boring and safe and it doesn't have to be. It can be fun and then Subaru made it even worse with that big screen with removing physical buttons.
not a clue why they still bother with such a dogshit, unreliable and annoying gearbox. just use ZF 8spd like everyone else, reliable , quiet and quicker and more efficient
No.. And none of the above competitors, either.
No fam, I’m good. Modern Subaru is filled with problems.
Makes sense since it got most reliable brand of 2024. Why don't you get out of 2010?
Only a fool believes Consumer Reports reliability ratings.
What is Subaru doing 😮😮. This thing ain't cool no more.