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Manchester City - The Worlds Biggest Small Club
Manchester City - The Worlds Biggest Small Club
Manchester City - The Worlds Biggest Small Club - Ігри
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As of today a few days after the video a background song got caught and was demonetized
With UA-cam I submitted it mute the song but leave the audio, and instead UA-cam instead of muting the song had replaced ALL audio between 7-10 mins
Im trying to solve this but best believe it’s not meant to be like that😂
lmaoo thought my youtube was glitched or something
Bro💀💀💀 mfs chose the funniest song
Banger song tho 😂
What a pathetic excuse to back man city btw
@@moseddabeast what
Thank you mate for understanding the situation of City fans. It's not always black and white as many rival fans like to think to up their own ego.
But so do your fans at the end of the day no you aren't the best in the world just cos you got all that oil money cosbefire 2010 no one heard about them.
@@footballfan321-xt3ku did you not watch the video?
@@plebbers8799 He probably clicked on it to just rage war in the comments and make fun of City fans like the brain individual he is
@@plebbers8799 he's right tbf, mid table club before money, pep is overhyped of course they're such a dominant club but they feel like more of a buissness, an operation rather than a club playing good football with good friendships
@@talkany_ath481 City aren't the first club like this (Blackburn, Chelsea) and won't be the last club (Newcastle) like this
Teams with history, repeat history. Manchester City is creating history.
no they're not
@Dennis Waweru alright then pal. Logic isn't a thing for you, then.
@@mcfcok3773 you literally call yourself oilfc
But I’m the one without logic? Okay pal👍
@Dennis Waweru yeah because it winds soft mugs like you up 😅😅. You're in denial
Yes They are! If i was a good player i pick city over all teams to play in 🏆🏆🏆
City was in league 2 or 3 at the time when my dad visited England back in 1990s. He was kind of free & his colleagues who were from manchester took him to a city game, his words were " I'm surprised how many fans a club coud have like those when a giant club from that city actually exists". Right now, whenever he hears city doesn't have any fans, he just smiles.
As a FC Copenhagen fan we had Manchester City in our Champions league group and i was actually surprised by the fact that they filled up the away section I didn’t get a ticket to the game because it was sold out but I watched it at home and tbh they didn’t really sing all the game but I have seen some people say it’s because they don’t have any chants and I don’t know if it’s true but if they do get some good chants they could definitely be up there with some of the best away fans
City fans are mad creative when it comes to songs. Hear some mad shit at the matches. Bit of a Manchester thing to not get over excited and jump up and down like a balloon for 90 min. Lads pay big money and actually want to watch some of the game.
Ha
I was at the game
@@CGmcfc idk abt that mate when I went to Barca vs Utd Stretford end was bouncing stood up all match as normal tho
Blue moon is our team anthem and another great song particularly for away we sing is we're not really here/The invisible man which is a song in remembrance of some city fans who died tragically in a plain crash going to an away game
It’s so ironic that everyone says “nobody cares” but literally everyone does when they say this, it’s actually so ironic
nobody’s care except when we want to make fun of u lot
@@lol-bg4wh copium
@@lol-bg4wh rent free mate
@@fifty-five6929 like i said nobody cares about your tinpot club except if we get to make fun of it
Fun fact spurs has a substantially bigger uk fanbase than City will ever have!
Here in South Africa Man City fan base has grown phenomenally over the past 7 years.
And people here always claim you a glory supporter if you support them
@@anammanyela5460 true
I've never seen a man city fan in my life in Cape Town so idk what to tell you but at least they stock the shirts in store
@@juvaniaaron1720 I'm sure you and I know you're lying
@@cesar-teixera I'm serious, I've even met a Tottenham and Everton supporters but nobody for city
In the 1930s, Manchester City reached two consecutive FA Cup finals, losing to Everton in 1933, before claiming the Cup by beating Portsmouth in 1934.[15] During the 1934 run, the club broke the record for the highest home attendance of any club in English football history, as 84,569 fans packed Maine Road for a sixth-round FA Cup tie against Stoke City - a record which stood until 2016.
Research carried out by Manchester City in 2005 estimated a fanbase of 886,000 in the United Kingdom and a total in excess of 2 million worldwide, although since the purchase of the club by Sheikh Mansour and City's recent achievements, that figure has since ballooned to many times that size.
-wikipedia.
No fans ?
utd fans will still find a way to bs out of this🤣
@@plebbers8799 even as Liverpool fan man city's fanbase is class and also huge like Wikipedia stated.
@@marioskapetanakis Liverpool fans are also some of the best in the prem and the Anfield atmosphere is crazy. Fair play
@@plebbers8799 i am old enough to remember the drought of trophies from Liverpool. I am not old enough to remember man city before the money came but coming to think about it it was a matter of time before man city got explored by investors . And ironically man united is the reason why Man city got so insanely rich. Beacause they had the money and the apparent history but in the Shadow of all those samaras and onyoha were scoring for city. And then the money came .
@Anfield Road here comes the cope
Whether big or small, success is measured not only by the number of titles won but also by the growth of a team's fan base. Every team has the opportunity to make history and write their own story. Let's celebrate the growth and success of our favorite teams and continue to support them on their journey. #teamspirit #sportsfans #success
If you think of it this way, some teams more pride themselves on overachievement in the table for their town size. Ever notice how tiny Villarreal, Eibar, Morecambe, or Huesca are? Yet Morecambe's in League One, Eibar's knocking on La Liga, Villarreal's been in European competitions quite often, and Huesca is in the mid-table of Segunda Division while Bradford City is in League Two in a city twenty times bigger than Morecambe.
As a City fan i prefer it when we are fewer fans. It makes our victories even sweeter. Others say we are still a small club and i smile knowing they feel immense envy inside lol
I don't envy zero Champions League titles to our 6 and less than half the top flight titles Chitty has to us (8 to 19)... 🔴⚽ YNWA
@@digitalfootballer9032 yeah you keep telling yourself that
@@digitalfootballer9032 1 league title in 30 years, not enviable.
@@digitalfootballer9032 Thinking of your reaction on how City bested Liverpool by 1 points two times in recent years had me chuckled
@@digitalfootballer9032 me remembering the 4 goals against Liverpool and the fact they can't even qualify for Europa league 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am from Argentina and I started supporting Manchester City in 2010 when Tevez arrived. At that time. nobody knew about City and if you did, it was because it's the Man United derby. Now, in 2023, you could walk the streets and find kids wearing their jersey (Probably Álvarez or Agüero in the back), people watching their games every weekend and supporting them. The fanbase is growing a lot after 13 years and it looks like it will keep going in that way. I'm so proud to be a City fan.
Tevez was a merc and a snake, no loyalty to speak of
@@victorkreig6089 really didn't care about that. For us, he was an Argentinian playing in the best league in the world.
Tbf, since the takeover we've always had a strong connection to Argentina, Aguero, Zabaleta, Demichelis, Otamendi, Tevez, Alvarez
@@MasterIceyy And let's hope it keeps in that way for many years!
You’ve been a city fan since 2010 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
every goal and every trophy has still been the same feeling throughout, ive been a city fan my whole life, remembered vividly our first premier league and i was in tears, and the emotions with every important game gets me shaking, we are city 💙
Stop lying man
@@mmanu6126 loool leave him alone wtf😭
@@cmzz7838 i mean, he is bullshitting lmao. nobody supported city, every fan is a plastic that converted from united to city "fan"
@@mmanu6126 your comment proves that there will always be clowns out there who just can't accept the truth
@@mmanu6126how long you been a united fan for, before the glory? highly doubt it 😂
just cuz the team i grew up with and family supports wins, doesn’t mean i should be ashamed, COMC
Don’t care what people think of us went Munich with all my mates last week 🔵🔵
100 Financial Fair Play allegations 👍🙂
@@PR-li3xm key word: allegations
Fine of 10 millions is like yeah you did murder but instead of life sentence you get 2 years.
@@daanyal2550 You can’t really deny the allegations when there are 100 of them. If you seriously think that every single one of them are false, then you need a reality check.
Blud just said he doesn't care that we don't care. The meta of irrelevance
As a city fan. This video was amazing. People really dislike City and will complain about us but I think City in the next generation will be talked about more. Great video 🎉
I went to the etiad last year and I was blown away with how fantastic everything was around it and it really changed my opinion of city and I appreciate what sheik does for city
people really dislike every club, because theyre rivals. i dont understand what youre saying ?
City are cheating frauds mate. All respect and power to the manager and players they’ve done their job. The club is crooked, the owner is crooked and you bought your way to the top. That’s facts unfortunately and people see through that.
@@okaymate- City aren't anyone's rivals really
you said it mate!!!
Spot on. All these rival fans want to make sure everyone knows they “don’t care about City” even though they can’t stop talking about City.
I really don't think City fans will care about anything like this and when it comes to the attendance in the FA cup semi final, they'd had just went to Munich and there's a cost of living crisis going on.
Someone with a brain.
FA don't care about us northern fans, man city did fill out their end. Sheffield Utd didn't even behind the goal it was patchy. That's because there's a fucking cost of living crisis going on, wembley tickets are extortionate, wembley itself extorts the fans and the cost to go down to London is again extortion. They should have done it at villa park
I can understand man utd playing brighton at wembley because they're just a few stops down the tube anyway their fan base.
In the semi final against Liverpool there were visible large gaps at Wembley
Quite frankly there support was pathetic
Many fans of the club are young and didn’t experience the seasons they were poor in
This video makes one or two decent points but mainly makes a attempt to defend the indefensible.
@@bobster9113 If you have any knowledge of that semi-final the trains were out of service along with a lot of the motorway routes for maintenance for a lot of fans it was literally impossible to reach it.
It's simply tourists on both sides who got to that match because again the FA hates northern fans. And liverpool's fanbase is shite mate their away fans suck ass, leaving at 3-1 down lol. I stick out losses away until injury time has ended they can't even stay watching us dicking them. Shite support Everton is the bigger club
Correct. Last year at Liverpool I’d just come back from Madrid, which nearly cost me a grand in total. To then fork out another £200 for a day out in Wembley is disgusting. Imagine if you had kids coming from Manchester
I don’t take as much of an issue with City than I do with teams like PSG. They literally weren’t relevant until they got bought by a country. City were at least a half decent team with some history
@@aguyjr Yeah, even getting beaten by the likes of Middlesbrough and Hamburger SV, who are now playing in the second division of their country respectively, and still can't get promoted to the EPL/Bundesliga.
i think tbh psg has a better history than city ngl
@@aguyjr Club takeover is a normal thing. I doubt the even the glazers selling the club will help man U to win the major trophies and at the end of the day city will still probably be better than man u. Its just how it is. The nature of City will remain the same they will keep dominating English football.
@@aguyjr Where were they a year before the takeover? Were they taken over when they were in second/third division? Or were they in the Premier league? Coz your comment is pointless if they were bought in the division they currently are...
thats so wrong. I dont like PSG either but they were very successful before the 2000s and have a lot of history
Well I agree with what Mourhinio said at United they are making history. And also when do they eventually have “history” they’ve won more trophies in the past decade more then United Arsenal Chelsea and Tottenham so my question is when does the whole City have no history thing come to an end. Also there signings have been fairly smart. City have signed players for very low wage wise might be different but United fans say oil money acting like they haven’t spent 1 billion in the last decade
I don't know man. You can rationalize it all you want but City and even PSG (eventhough they have a history) will always be just a product to fans. Like coca cola or big mac. Yea, everyone buys them but it's no one's favourite food.
@@frankopanklaric ehh bad analogy, man utd are literally the most well known club other than Barcelona in the world, so many of them are just band wagoners that only became fans because of their success.
Yeah united spend a lot of money because they naturally have a lot of money trough their fans. City have bloodmoney from a state with a questionably human rights record.
@@frankopanklaric PSG doesn't have a history.
Both Liverpool and Man utd won most of the title for 2 decades (70-90,92-2013),so least on more decade
Man City doesn't suffer from tourism. It's the working classes that have supported them through thick and thin. They are more susceptible to cost increases and trying to keep up with the amount of games they need to attend.
100% spot on mate
No it’s not😂😂half of them are tourists or from london
@@bradleyconnor3185 utd fans are from London
@@bradleyconnor3185 Happens with literally every successful team in the world though not just city. Liverpool & United are just as bad, Anfield is probably the only stadium in the league where the home supports travel further than the away.
You’re owned by a state.
It is what it is. We shouldn’t hate on them. People always like to think about the history of a club but you need to be around a long time to make history.People can do what they want and support what they support. Leave em be
Its just the fact that the man city atmosphere is dead.
Thank you for this. Man city gets so much hate undeservedly SOMETIMES and it’s good to see someone to take a step back and actually really look at things at a deeper level
Happens with every successful team, it comes with the territory
no team built on oil money deserves a shred of respect, be it city, psg, newcastle, or chelsea. You sell out, you mean nothing.
@@yusaidit5311 so much anger, go outside and touch grass
*100+ Financial Fair Play investigations*
“We’re unjustly hated on”
@@nuudelz3711Tell me 10 of those ffp right now little boy
I must admit I laugh at the banter about City not filling seats or the fans being fake but you make an excellent point. It is probably true that they might get less excited for a trip to Wembley than say Newcastle for example. I can’t imagine PSG is much different since they are essentially guaranteed to win the league so their only focus is the champion’s league. One of the many valid reasons for criticizing the Super League is the fact that seeing some of the big clubs play week in week out will lose that magic you get from earning your place in a tournament. City fans have just seen more success in recent years than any of us can fathom.
We have a solid fanbase of about 40k local Mancunians that go to every game, but the remainder is day trippers and that's fine. I'd rather be "small" and watch this unbelievable team play this magical football, than be a "big" club and be a crying baby on youtube fan channels because my team is falling apart.
@@allpissedup229 yeah that’s totally fair. I don’t know if you’re an older guy and therefore can’t answer this question but I would like to know how the oldest of the fanbase feel about the club since the takeover? Presumably there are many fans who can remember the days playing in lower leagues and have a unique perspective on the current success.
@@chilibeer3912 I'm a bit "in the middle", in my mid 30s so not part of the older crowd but not in the younger crowd either.
Of course, everyone who's been to Maine Road misses it... It's unavoidable. There will always be the feeling that it was the best ground and that's probably never going to change.
I think most of us are just appreciating the moment, living in it and trying to just focus on ourselves. The noise from outside is so constant, we just want to do our own thing. Follow our team and love them like we always did, it doesn't matter who owns our club at the end of the day.
how can you laugh at an overused joke that is probably posted on twitter over 50 times a day ? just a question
Bound to like any video you post. You are top-tier.
Very fair assessment mate. Top video. Keep up the good work.
Machester City doesn't have great history; they are creating the history right now.
i know this has nothing to do with this video but thogden is such a tory
💀
@@aguyjr his dad is bald
Exceptionally well spoken.
As a Man United fan, I can tell you more than anyone. When your on top, other club fans will always find something to throw any kind of shade they can at you because YOU ARE ON TOP. That's it. We earned our spot at the Top while Chelsea bought their way into it. But we both got Hated for 1 Reason. WE WERE ON TOP. Fans using HOW city got on top with MONEY as justification for hate, is just SOUR GRAPES.
this is an excellent point. My Dad and Uncle used to bang on in the 90s/00s era about how united fans were glory hunters and I never understood. He was just salty because of the Division 2 thing I think. (I dont think that btw I just enjoy the friendly bantz between us :D)
You are brilliant and smart too
Finally a man u fan who respects man city and knows ball
@@alongkawasakizxr9140 you need to spend in order to win literally every sport is like that it has to be a mix of homegrown and bought stars
smart idea , i agreed with you when we succeed in real life we get more hated more jealous.
People underestimate how hard it is to win at the etihad
That place is becoming a fortress
The atmosphere there is becoming electric
Today against arsenal the fans cheered every single tackle or interception and we booed and whistled any arsenal fan on the ball
It was nice to see😂
One of the hardest fixtures a team can face.
With that squad and manager, they would win with or without the fans.
Honestly as city for 35 years I don’t really care about what the haters think or their opinions. In fact the more they hate more we love. Having said that we are happy with the amount of fans we have, very happy. About our team we are very happy because our team have set an unprecedented standard in this beautiful game of football in England or perhaps in the world, great FC Barcelona was the benchmark everyone talked about, but every rival fans and neural fans know very well City are par with that Barcelona team, and honestly it will go beyond that.
You rival fans and city haters know very well every time you take a breath all that comes to your mind how to up against city, how can we better than city etc all rival fans club , bloggers, podcast all talk about city city city , how can we stop city.
In a way all city’s rival fans are city fans exclusively formed to hate us.
Finally as a city fan all I say is you can dwell in your past and dream we will keep going toe to toe each and every year , our great owners have laid the foundation, we want more haters ….. match if you can on the football pitch, or our club management from the cleaners to the coaching staff and beyond.
What Barcelona team is city on par with?
Wonder how much City paid for this comment 😂😂😂
@@RralRonaldo cry
Good video, this is the kind of rational and down to earth analysis that football needs. Im new here and still have to watch your videos with subtitles because English is not my first language and you speak a little to fast for me haha but I’m still enjoying the content though 😂
killed this one man. youre a premier soccer doc creator
This is a very unbiased opinion... I love how you narrated it.... You earned a new subscriber
As a City fan I speak for everyone when I say this about other fans not caring about our success:
We do not care
too f@@kin right pal WE DONT CARE you lot moan, we'll watch our bus parade with another trophy laden season CTID
Man City is an inspirational team. It's like a little kid nobody talks about achieving greatness when the big kid became a failure for having pride. I'm a Man City fan and i sometimes lose hope in their games. I learn that even the greatest team has been through a time when they couldn't stand as champions.
Keep up the good work these videos have been so good lately
Thanks for understanding. I’m amazed we had as many fans as we did under Stuart Pearce. We scored 10 goals at home all year 😂😂
I’m certain there is and always will be City fans who are true to the club and who either witnessed their true struggles before the takeover. However, as time goes on, there will be, without question, people who can only relate to the history of City post-takeover. For example, I’m a long time Premier League follower in America (Liverpool fan). Here, City is held by ESPN and other sports media in just as much regard as United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea because they’re always winning championships. There’s next to no acknowledgement of where City came from and no acknowledgement of how City became what they are today, which is because of the takeover.
and what's the problem with that?Acting like you know where Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd came from
Thx u bro for understanding and explaining everything bout our club ❤❤❤
Great analysis, mate. I think you covered all the main points perfectly there. 👍
People that are comparing City to Chelsea forget that Chelsea prior to Abramovich were a club consistently in the top 4-6 winning multiple FA Cups and European Cup Winners Cups. Abramovich was the golden era but Chelsea did have success prior with players like Wise, Zola, Desailly, Vialli yet still faced this level of criticism if not more being the first ones. Even today rivals banter Chelsea about prior to 2003.
Chelsea were only in the top four for like 5 years before than then they were nothing. They were equivalent to a club like Brighton today except the league was less competitive back then. Pretending Chelsea had history is cringe beyond belief, they were no different to City if not even smaller.
What a crock of shite, Chelsea weren’t some sort of super power at all, in fact they were in the second flight with City at one point with a real half empty stadium
Lmao no they didn’t Chelsea were non existent prior to the 90s.
Someone in football talking sense about Man City fans - finally
This was so beautifully explained. Completely changed my perspective
As a Bayern fan, i felt this, especially in the Bundesliga
Bundesliga is barely a challenge
@@sarov7658 shut up
😂😂😂
You're competing against 2 other teams every season. If you're not winning Bundesliga, what's the point.
At least Man City couldn't poach whoever they want in the PL 😅
Even without city breaching rules rival fans will always hate us cos city just have a better side than half the teams In Europe
People don’t hate you because your better, people hate you because you brought your way to success
@@harleyokeefe5193 nah we didn’t buy our way to success we brought players that are already in their prime and just turned them into a better versions of themselves obviously city have oil money okay whatever who tf asked its MONEY that’s what you buy players with we can’t even make our way to the champions league final cos UEFA won’t have it it’s fuckin corrupt
@@Tyler05595 lol you don’t know your own history mate, classic city plastic. You instantly became the richest club in English football when you where brought, you could muscle out any other club for players you really wanted and you did. Your brought your way to your first major sight of success
When someone says they don’t care about Man City it doesn’t mean they don’t talk about Man City, take it like this : if they weren’t winning something they wouldn’t even be whispered about. I’m an Arsenal fan : we haven’t had the most luck over the years but people are constantly on our case. Same goes for Utd; Chelsea & Liverpool (with or without recent success)
- City winning the league to me is like Leicester winning the league, it has happened (though it continues to happen still feels like. Okay…) & trust, I really would rather they continue to, over the above mentioned other clubs | I’m not hating on them I just don’t care or at the least harbour any animosity towards them cause like I said as long as that trophy isn’t red or dark blue I really could care even less 😂😂
I og love watching them play -
People say city have no fans because half of them are glory hunters and care about their glory after being bought out by the UAE and nothing else. Pre 2008, they had a true fanbase like any other club.
Why do all the clubs with so many trophies have the most fans? Cause most fans are glory hunters in general.
exactly@@the4eyedowl341
You know you’re doing well as a club when other fan bases resort to “ah but you’re a small club” or “ah it’s just cause you’ve got money”.
Or "you breach FFP on the regular so youre a bunch of cheating posers"
@@nickchivers9029 I’m tasting salt
As a United fan, I might hate to see your club being successful but I won't chastise you for being as "oil club", considering that I want my club to be taken over by an oil state as well.
But it literally is because you’ve got money 😂
@@karlcs901 literally every club has money, you bellend
9:26 this is so true. I live in India and here majority of the people of my age who were born in laste 90s support Barca, Madrid, united, Chelsea and arsenal. Mostly people of my age group started watching football in early 2010 but some before that as well as later. Hence I hardly see any guy in his 20s supporting Liverpool and arsenal. But the younger generation I see supporting teams like city and psg.
In 1990's teams like madrid, barca,united,arsenal were creating their legacy and history kids of 2000-2010 support teams like city is acceptable because the only thing they don't have is champions league and most probably they will get it soon.people support psg because of messi or neymar are in their team.Dont compare man city and psg.Maybe man city don't have big history like united,arsenal,liverpool,barca,real,bayern but they are making history currently but psg is just about money.Thay bought players messi,ramos,neymar just to get their supporters to support them but man city did not bring any big player leaving haaland they bought player and made their career.
@@alok4128 where did I compare city with psg? I just said younger generation supports them
It's not that they're small. It's that they're not passionate. Imgine if a Portsmouth fan could see his team win every week in the prem. He would be jumping with joy, doesn't matter if hes at the stadium, in the pub or at home. That's because their fans love their club, alot of man city fans became man city fans during their life while 99.9% of Pompey fans were born Portsmouth fans..
i watched city v portsmouth around 2008/9 worst away support i ever seen at city game
Omg who fucking cares
If Portsmouth became good they will get more glory supporters like every club
your point about the end about billionaires was so spot on.
I think the reason why people dislike city (including me) is because their growth is not organic. Since they were bought, the amount of money they have is much bigger than all the the other big clubs except maybe Chelsea. Not only that, they continuously are investigated and accused of breaking the FFP rules. A smaller team like Leicester winning the league is one of the most amazing things that can happen. A relatively small club getting bought out and suddenly dominating the league for 6 years due to the ability to spend so much money that they can have injuries and underperforming players and still be able to replace them from the bench. The same goes for PSG and all the other teams that just get invested billions in, start winning and then say "why are people not happy for us"..
I wouldn't call Leicester small, they literally got to the title because a billionaire dumped tons of money into the club, wasn't exactly organic
But you can never take away the insane amount of skill in their scouting department
in last 10 years, united have spent much more
We fill out away ends..all the time. Decent that like it a lot you got a new subscriber.
Thank you for this, I’ll still be Man City through and through whether they hate or not
wow! love the newcastle explanation at the end. SPOT on. people who say they only have success from "blood money" are out of the loop
Been a city fan since I can remember. First game I went was against Scunthorpe in the cup when I was about 5/6 . But I get shit for being a “glory hunter” but yet I’m 20 born in 2002 . Had a season ticket for 13/14 seasons thanks to my dad n being from Manchester only me n my best mate are city fans out of a group of 10 lads. City fans are proper mancs. We have a loyal fan base that has been in the tough times and now we are lucky to be where we are. People hate us because well they ain’t us. Simple as that
I have always hated the “City spend money” argument by rival fans. Like, when your clubs were successful, they had the most money outta all the other clubs, especially united, and leached out all the top players from the other clubs namely law, cantona rio and keane. City have used the investment by the Abu dhabi group the best they could, growing the stadium and the facilities around the stadium, and now are reaping the benefits of their investment with success in terms of trophies and as well as overall profit. I cannot understand how people intend to explain the success of their clubs without the influx of money. It is a business, you need investments to start something, and need competent people to act upon that investment. Just that city got lucky with the people who had handle of the money. And that’s why we are successful
The Man City fans before the takeover are obviously amazing, loyal and loud fans. It is just the tourist and glory hunter fans they have got since that let the fan base down. Although definitely no one cares when they do well because their fan base is still tiny compared to other clubs.
Honestly the best example of the glory hunting fans are if you go into any comment section of a Man City instagram post 😂 the absolute bullshit I see from some of them who seemingly don’t know anything about football is crazy always overreacting after a loss or a bad half of football 😂 and it just makes me feel bad for the fans of clubs lower down the pyramid who aren’t blessed with our finances and struggle through every season.
I guess you can call the Manchester United fans as the Glory hunters, it was those tourists and Glory hunter fans who started supporting United just because they were winning the PL back to back and making the football look good, through money, success etc, etc...
@@saranshsharma4005 exactly im sure maybe 60% of man utd fans and arsenal fans started supporting dem during the 90s and 00s
Many of the City fans backed off since 2009 when they got bought out no joke.
@@Bobbiez_editzthe 90s had a massive influx of fans globally to English teams with the formation of the Premier League. However teams like Liverpool, Arsenal, and United all had a lot of titles before the premier league started and glory hunter fans existed. Liverpool and Arsenal both had 10+ league titles and United had 6 or 7 I think. Compare that to City who had 2 league titles and hadn’t won any trophy in 40-50 years and were bouncing around the leagues, and then they suddenly win like 20 trophies since they got taken over.
I feel a little bad for City fans too. As a kid I admired them, as they were viewed kind of how Palace, West Ham or Newcastle fans were viewed now. But in 20-30 years, most City fans under 50 will have known pretty much nothing but success, and the "die hards" will talk about how they were there in the tough years, when they only won three titles in six years. It is going to be impossible for City fans to be admired in decades to come.
I think the thing with city is a similar situation to clubs like psg. Think of it as being at school, you have a kid that's fought hard to get where they are gets accepted into a prestigious university and are on track to doing well for themselves. Then look at it from the point of view of a kid who has had everything given to them. They still work hard, they get the same results as the kid before but because they've not had to struggle in the same way it's a less impressive feat right? As much as I hate United being a Liverpool fan I respect what the club has done to get where they are. I don't hate city and I actually really like their squad as its full of great personalities and talents, but the club itself doesn't feel right, it's synthetic almost, like a dystopian future where everything is shiny and clean. What they've done after the takeover is impressive and ill never take that away from them but you can't buy respect
The issue with this mentality is that it assumes everything United and Liverpool did was organic. They were given the exact same type of advantages that City have now, but it was just decades ago. So is it ok that those two clubs were bankrolled by wealthy businessman or government entities because it happened first?
@Mystery Man I think the only difference between then and now is the ease of which money is used in modern football. A lot more talent had to be made instead of just bought in as you couldn't really fly across the world and sign a Pele or a Maradona back then whereas now teams like city can throw their wallst at anything they want, whether thats world class players, backroom staff or facilities, but I do understand that it is hypocritical of said clubs. I guess it all really comes down to the timing of it... if city had Been taken over when the other big teams were it maybe would havr been a different story
@@k_bosh0256 it is true that they couldn’t really go all over the world for the best talent. But does that potentially make it even worse? Instead of buying some of the best players abroad, the richer clubs just bought the best players they could within England or Britain as a whole. Adding strength while weakening opposition.
We are mostly on the same page here, but I do push back on the comment about City being able to throw their wallet at whoever they want and buy them. There are multiple players in the league that City targeted but we’re outbid for. Maguire, Fred, Cucurella, Jorginho to name the ones that pop into my head first
@Mystery Man yeah thats a good point actually I didn't think of it that way before
Yeah sorry about that I said it more as a blanket statement to the fact that city basically have 2 starting 11s because where if you look at the quality of each player where if any other team had them they would be the main star whereas they aren't even guaranteed game time at city. I couldn't name you another team ever that has the squad quality and depth that they are able to pass on players like sterling, zinchenko, Jesus and cancelo not only to other clubs but to teams that are supposedly rivals.
Like I said tho I don't hate city whatsoever as they are arguably one of the best teams I have ever seen but I do think that some of the criticism to them being a so called "fake" team are valid
@@k_bosh0256 yeah no need for apologies. This is the most reasonable interaction I’ve had in here. Always nice to talk footballs, even with people who have different views. I just like to push back a little bit on some of the narratives about them because nobody with an actual platform ever defends City or provides extra context.
Will also say that City don’t have 2 elevens to play. They’ve only had 18 different players start for them this season, and 22 have played in the league. Both are PL lows. We do have a crazy talented first 15, but most of our depth is based on Pep coaching players to work in different positions. Every defender other than Walker has played in multiple positions. Same goes for every attacker and midfielder other than Haaland, Rodri, Mahrez, and Phillips.
City and Newcastle will be the next man utd and liverpool in anout 20-30 years
Obviously I'm no fan of City but it's such a monumental cope when people say this ''nobody cares, when City wins it's like no one wins'' stuff. Tell that to the people reading the list of honours on Wikipedia in 20 years time.
I am from Costa Rica and I started supporting since Paulo César Wanchope played for City
I teach in Vietnam and he's right about future generations, when I ask my students who they support.. most say City. Sure it's in Asia, but it's showing their increasing global reach. Haven't met a single Liverpool fan and only one Arsenal fan (the team I support)
Good. The world doens't need any more of them, waste of space, air and energy. New times is here, thankfully
People like to bash on City for being a buyout club, meanwhile the money that they've spent compared to what Chelsea or Man United have been spending is barely a lot.
They've been much better at managing their expenses and keeping the longevity. Now they're generating a lot of prize money, which makes them even richer and more successful. Considering the players that they have, they have been really good at getting the right players at the right time.
When United or Liverpool was dominating the English league their fans didn’t get bored. They always filled out their stadium. Their manager didn’t have to beg their fans to fill out their stadium. Because everything was earned. It took them years to slowly build up to that moment and not a financial takeover.
Well said
bro its noy our fault the saudis did not do a take over for ur club
bro its not like every team did not have money for d rebuild
and for d fact united spent more than us in d past decade with our so called oil money
United still exists because they were financially bankrolled, every successful team has had heavy financial bacing
i became a city fan this season, if we win the treble on my first season supporting im gonna go insane (city is my favorite club i even have its jersey and im in saudi arabia)
The reason everyone doesn’t respect City is because they artificially brought their way to the top of the league. Even if they had won a few trophies here and there before they were bought, they suddenly transform into a superpower overnight.
Teams like United, Liverpool, Arsenal are much more respected because they didn’t have an overnight investment turn them from mid table/relegation fodder into the best team in the world.
Also, City definitely don’t deserve respect as a club as long as they have 115 charges(which will probably get swept under the rug and stalled out by City who will hire mega-lawyers).
And naturally they will have a lot of new supporters due to their titles, but most of these supporters will have come post-2010.
Other teams like Brighton, Aston Villa also are more likeable, because they built their team from the ground up, not from a Billionaire investment, and are now both challenging in the top half of the table.
People are just mad that they decided to pick Manchester city to fund and not their own club and pick apart any success we will ever have. It’s not our fault we are just happy to experience the success we are having.
True like he said if it was a team like Rochdale
They would get hate
I mean look at Wrexham, people are giving them hate because of the takeover, if your team gets taken over, expect hate
As a City fan for 17 years, I'm going to take this hate to the fucking grave 🙌🙌🙌
@@Bigboymacom I don't think ppl look down on man city bcus they picked city to invest in over other big clubs. Its bcus you guys bought your success, which in turn gave you the opportunity to bring in a top manager like pep. Alot of fans feel you got success without having to earn it. You jumped the line in a sense. On top of that, alota you guys now talk down to the rest of us because we don't have as much money to overspend on players. Chelsea got a similar treatment in 2004/05
Ppl would genuinely have alot more respect for what city has done if they had done it the "right way", like how Arsenal are doing it now. There is an integrity aspect to this that is complicated. But the general idea revolves around building success, not buying it
@@danielbwest Literally every big club. Bayern Munich for example only win because they have so much more money than every other club. Man United have spent the most out of anyone.
I personally think the criticism City fans get is unfair. I think social media has a big part to play as I do genuinely believe that what would people of the 70/80s say about Liverpool as they were dominant. As were United in the 90/00s. Radio stations like talkSPORT doesn’t help them as most presenters just chat rubbish and easy digs at them on most social platforms City get slated for anything they do.
Also still can’t get my head around us winning at turf moor I was expecting a good 4-0 thumping 😂
As a chelsea fan an original oli money team I believe that citeh are a big club cuz of our oil brotherhood.
They are creating their own history and gaining new and younger fans
One of the best videos I've ever watched and hopefully it will teach fans of the "big clubs" not to always find reasons to hate on teams out performing them
Thank you!
Great vid as always Liam!
You know mate that was the best explanation I've heard, that we're brilliant 👏 👍 well covered
I think their Saudi Arabian take over put a giant * on every accomplishment the modern era of City. Aside from City fans, quite literally every other fan regardless of league or club don’t view city in that same light of other historic clubs even if their achievements are comparable. Hispanics here in my state (Arizona) admire their football and players, myself included, but we have little respect for the club overall. Similarly to how we view Madrid and Barcelona although not as harshly as many Hispanics are aware of their history dating back to the 60’s or even back further. The Hispanic football community generally held respect to Barcelona and Madrid’s dominant eras because it still felt semi-natural and they could respect those clubs partially (due to La Liga’s clear bias to those 2 clubs at the time). But Manchester city to our community is such an anomaly. We move on quickly in daily discourse from them when in contrast, we would speak of Madrid and Barcelona for weeks on end about their recent games in the mid 2000’s up to late 2010’s.
Saudi arabia? You must be good at geography
City do have history but problem is that they didn't get so much attention like Liverpool Manchester United whenever they win they got labelled as oil money but in last 10 years United spend more money than City yet they fail to win trophies consistently as City
Korean now 33 years old beecame City fan about 11 yrs ago when they beat Man Utd 6-1. All Koreans were Man Utd fan because of Ji Sung Park. Partially I hated Korean United fans as they were too protective of Ji Sung but more importantly I was captivated by the style of football Man City played and David Silva's majestic play.
Think everyone becomes a fan for a different reason and regardless it is good for game of football.
On final note about being bought out, if that is considered as a problem, we are only allowing traditionally strong teams to stay strong. Yes City spent a lot but over the course of history or more recently, think it is a sensible spending.
It's a complicated set of circumstances. Mainly because I do think Manchester City does have its own history pre-takeover but all that people within this generation are going to remember is mainly the Abu Dhabi United Group takeover, the FFP allegations and then all these meme clips on their "lack of fandom."
Video overall is dope as hell, Viz. Excellent job demonstrating both sides of the argument here.
As a City fan, I tend to try and avoid talking about footie on social media due to all the hate Manchester City gets. Yeah, I get every club gets hate but not to this extent and the arguments are literally all the same. Needless to say though, I love this club. I remember the first time I went to the etihad and it was an absolutely incredible experience. 💙 #Giverespectotheblues
Thank you so much. This video was great. In Norway(where I live) all the newspaper etc hate on city cus of the money. I`ve been a city supporter since 1994 and then I never ever saw a city-supporter, but during the last 5 or 6 years, the young ones turning up with a city shirt. All the hate is just envy.
Over time City's fanbase will grow they are the new kids on the block and other rival fans will say what their gonna say it's the nature of the beast
0:46 i think perfectly encaptulates why most fans really dont care about City. People usually said it to wind them up but with their 100 accounts of ffp rulebreaking has really turned so many (if not all) fanbases against them.
Hand on heart its why i wont value or recognise their achievements until the matter is put to rest
allegations are not evidence. They beat uefa already in court case.
@@finalfrontier001 no they didnt, they delayed it long enough via appeals that the bulk of their charges went past the statue of limitations, meaning it took too long for them to be charged, a lot of crimes have the same thing on them. However now with the fa and prem realising that thats how theyd get off they denied city a right to appeal which is legal for them to do if the crime is deemed serious enough by them, and finally do you think in all 100 charges theyll be found innocent? Not a hope
@@TheMuldoonFella False and not true allallegations were monitored and nothjng was found against city back 2012 after they were audited 3 times.
Uefa lost the case and Man City was made innocent. You never read the case, Man City destroyed uefa.
as an american city fan since 2013 (yes you can call me bandwagon but i stuck with them from there on out plus i was fckn 10) I find it so annoying that anything city does is just clowned upon simply because we are city. this video is full of facts, so cheers for that.
Well done for sticking with them! Must have been hard times.
@@michaelshevlane9132 🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelshevlane9132 if I was a real bandwagon I would’ve hopped over to Liverpool no??? I’m not saying we sucked but true bandwagons hop to the best at all times you sock
@@michaelshevlane9132 Do you know how many united fans stopped watching football altogether ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂but you stuck ohhhh give this man a medal
@@SaBer-gf7zp I am a Wycombe fan, so any time we lower league fans hear about 'tough times' at the top of the Premier League, we chuckle a little.
Mcgregor said it best "Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners" all these other fanbase focus on City. While City are making History.
best comment Ive seen down here
They won the treble and everyone's already forgotten about it lol
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆😁
And you are the one who keep reminding us. Ok
I'm Aussie and been a city fan since I was 8. Everyone my age was on United, Arsenal (bandwagon), or Leeds (Kewell and the other aussies). For whatever reason I chose City. We proceeded to bounce down then up the divisions, and far as I'm concerned having to live through that was rewarded by the happy tears of the Aguero goal and the success that's followed. I realise that the money may be gone one day and we may fall down the table, but l'l love the club just the same.
As an Arsenal fan, I think man city haven’t faced adversity ever since their first prem title, which is why they get complained about a lot. I don’t think they have felt the depths like us when we finished 8th place 3 years in a row. I know a few pre abu dabhi man city fans and I respect them but I think they have too many plastic fans that just watch them to win and don’t celebrate the hard times. It is hard to find their true fans these days.
he just explained this, stfu
The depths of finishing 8th in the prem 😒. Christ! City fans sure know the depths!! And with success there will always be glory hunters. But when you’re excepted to win every game and there’s no jeopardy in games. No tans go mental
Oh no bless your little cotton socks, 8th in the prem?!?! Oh my goodness how did you survive you poor little thing, you really were down in the depths as 8th best in the entirety of England!! I salute you, that right there is going through the thick and thin of being a football fan. How did you survive 8th place!! That's almost 2nd half of the table😂😂
Anyway, go to Manchester City on match day, I can assure you many of the people you'll meet are local, loyal mancs who've been here just like they were when we were truly down in the depths of the 2nd and 3rd DIVISION of English football. Stop looking on Twitter and whatever other social media you base your opinions from, of course there's plastic glory hunters on social media. But those of us who GO TO GAMES are local, loyal and have stuck through the proper shit times.
Thank you so muchh for thiss videoo ❤❤❤
I'd disagree(about the lack of celebration)
Don't think I ever saw Old Trafford get tired of success
Everyone takes a dig at city because they didn't earn where they are they bought their way into the top of the table just like chelsea did
You can talk however you want about the effort and money it takes to stay up at the top but again *they never earned where they are they just shoved money at it over and over and over again*
Don't think I've ever seen Barca or Madrid or Bayern or PSG fans get "tired" of winning either
The idea that they shouldn't be celebrating scoring against a championship side in a match they expect to win when it's a match that gives them the possibility of more silverware is silly, but Pep and his players have already proven they don't have a winners mentality(except for KDB) so I don't really expect them to respect every comp or put in as much energy and effort into every win.
They spent their way to the top finally reaching it properly when the Prem took a massive dive in quality due to financial meltdowns and a massive shift in not just administration but rules ownerships and even playstyles so they have basically only had what 3 arguably 4 opponents for the past near decade? Pretty easy to win silverware when you don't have a lot of clubs that are up to the task of even fighting for the top of the table let alone winning it, they also never won a CL despite all that time of supposed "dominance". It's almost like the Prem's quality had dipped so when they went to europe and weren't the biggest kid on the block anymore they got shown up or something
Can you do a video on West Brom on how Lai Guochuan has ruined the club.
The 100+ charges make it difficult for me to appreciate Man City's success.
most of them charges are really just bullshit that well be overturned easily
then maybe their are like 20 or 30 that are true which might result in points deduction
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak And how did you build that team, if not with money? With lots of love?
C'mon mate, you know as well as I do, that everything surrounding the rise of your club stinks suspiciously.
Even now, no normal sponsor would pay Man City the same amount or more than they pay Man Utd or Liverpool. Both clubs are much bigger brands and are far more popular than Man City.
It's mad Liam didn't mention that considering how thorough he normally is especially when he's saying the top 6 have money to spend the same way, that's just straight false.
It will be interesting to see if anything happens with that. If players were getting paid more than what we know
So if those charges don’t amount to anything, you’ll appreciate City’s success?
Very well researched and presented 👍🏾
City might win 5 leagues in 6 seasons. I understand why other fanbases hate them
Of course Manchester United would sell out Wembley. United fans love Wembley, means they don't have travel from Surrey all the way up to Manchester to see a game!
The City Fanbase stuff is crap. City fans are great. They don't have the same global following (despite what the some of City's directors numbers might suggest) but they have a fantastic fanbase in Manchester and always have done.
Chelsea and City both get hit with a bunch of shit because they got money from rich blokes rather then doing it "properly" from fans of clubs that "did it properly" but ultimately its sour grapes. Those fans generally don't want to admit that they also spent shit loads of money. If they do "well its different cos we earned it". Because you happened to get lucky and have a successful period right as the Premier League started to peak. And I'm an Arsenal fan, we rode that wave. We got lucky, we happened to get a bit of investment into the team and club just as the Premier League started to go global and its because of that we were able to invest into the stadium etc that means we are there or thereabouts in terms of infastructure to compete long term.
But if you didn't happen to be able to ride that wave, without the big investment theres no way you'd have ever caught up. Frankly, because Arsenal had to go frugal due to the stadium, the money into Chelsea and City SAVED the Premier League. If that had not happened, United would have gone Bayern. With no competition fianacially, they would have just bought hte best players from all hte english teams every season, solidified there place as the biggest team and stomped on everyones throats and there would have been no competing with it. Chelsea and the money they got stopped that from happening, and then City joined the party.
Honestly, if City were vastly outspending everyone in the league, I'd understand it more. But they aren't. Thier wage budget wasn't even the highest in the league at the start of the season (That was United.) I think its typically hypocritcal of football fans to sit their complaining about the money other teams spend when they are spending just as much.
How have you not twigged that they’re cooking the books? Or were the 100+ allegations of FFP breaches not enough
@@Lucas-pg2lo To comply with FFP. FFP, which is sounds like a fantastic fair idea, but actually just acts to preserve the status quo, keeping the big teams big and stopping anyone else from being able to match them.
All the allegations regarding City ((now at least)) revolve around them inflating income. In the early days there was some hiding of wages, but that sort of manipulation is far to easy to find and prove so they have shifted to inflating income as that is far easier to hide.
I couldn't really care less about them inflating income to allow them to spend the same amount as the biggest clubs. FFP is a broken system thats never realistically going to be enforcable with the current ownership models of multiple clubs and even if it was, won't achieve the aims of making football fair to all. Spending money is spending money. If City were sitting shelling out 15mil a week on wages whilst the next biggest teams were on 5mil, then sure, its an issue. But they aren't. They are spending as much on wages as United and Chelsea, and a little more then Liverpool. They just do it better then United and Chelsea because they actually have quality people at the top of the club running it rather then the absolute shitshows at United and Chelsea.
@@Lucas-pg2lo FFP shouldn't even exist. It just prevents smaller clubs from competing with the bigger ones. For example Everton and Nottingham Forest losing points for spending less than half as much as the big 6 do on a regular basis.
I believe the problem is that a lot people who are new to football just become man city ‘fans’ because they win shit and is the club is just career mode (unlimited money, no ffp, buy whoever tf u want)
But City don’t just buy whoever they want. And there have always been clubs that spent significantly more than others. Very little about City’s situation is new
Manchester city has a world wide fan-base,here in Kenya the fan-base has grown rapidly
In women’s soccer, Barcelona and Lyon are the equivalents. They win every game so it doesn’t make sense to be excited about getting an easy goal against a lower team
I'm a toon fan and could agree more. Man u have so many fans because under furgie, they blew everyone else out the water with how much they would spend to win the league and trophies continuously for a long period. Which in turn made them more attractive to foreign football fans. Just because it was longer ago doesn't mean it's better. People always have rose tinted nostalgia glasses on. City are making history right now, in 20/30 years time they will historically be immense and people will look back and remember when city dominated the league like we do now with man united. Also attendance percentages where released today and city have the second highest average attendance behind only newcastle...