Same here, leave it to TMR to shed some light on Jamaica's history. People need to realize that underneath the "sunny and musical paradise" venire is a island built on blood and sugarcane . Plus, post-slavery Jamaica wasn't exactly a picnic under the British crown before 1962.
@@GrahamNickerson Every country in the Caribbean is grossly under evaluated, and gives us stunning illumination on the impurity of the American project.
Yes, but are you aware of Jacobite wars of the 17th century and the expulsion of hundreds to the islands like Jamaica by Oliver Cromwell. In the ship's logs there are descriptions of those expelled. Majority described as 'black' with names like Cameron; Douglas etc There is a lot more to this history that is not told.
@@leestab10 I would like to learn more about it. There is one person in particular that I am trying to learn about because his two brothers are noted as property owners for Wigton Pen but for some reason he isn't. So there is a story there about why they left him out. But I am new to all of this research and so grateful to the internet and being able to find information online.
Jamaica was a colony of the Kingdom of England, Subsequently the Kingdom of Great Britain then the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from 1655-1962.
Hamilton Brown was one of the biggest Slave owners and traders in Jamaica. Hamilton Brown is Kamala Harris Great, Great Grandfather. He fought against abolition.
I'm reminded of the line from the show American Gods, where Orlando Jones' character talks to the slaves in the ship. "You didn't realise you were black yet, yall thought you was just people" It would be nice to close such dark chapters in human history, but never forgetting is the price and the reminder to never write them again, I would hope.
Black people are the only people who have never been compensated for slavery. Every other wronged group has received compensation. People argue that slavery always went on. Not on this scale, not for as long as this, and not as brutal. And not generating the kind of wealth it did for Britain and other European countries. Tens of millions of Africans died. That holocaust isn't even acknowledged. Many more millions died during the crossing. And people were literally worked to death. When the slaves were freed, they had nothing. They were given nothing. The slave owners, who made the equivalent of billions today, were given millions to compensate for the loss of their "property". Again, the slaves got nothing. And western countries that built their wealth on the backs of those people apparently think that's okay.
For any Jamaican looking to find out more info about their ancestors who were enslaved the Jamaican slave registers kept from 1817 to 1832 are a great place to start, although a lot of info is left out, its a good starting point in my opinion
My great grandfather was from Jamaica, never met him. Going to Jamaica soon and hope I can find records of my family. I still have 7% of Scottish Dna floating around because of this history 😮💨
I don’t know what he means by christian missionaries from the “mother country” spreading the spirit of freedom to Jamaica and other islands. We already had the spirit of freedom. People were fighting for freedom every step of the way from being captured in Africa and marched in the coffle lines, fighting for freedom on the coasts of Africa before being forced onto the ships, fighting for freedom on the ships and fighting for freedom in the concentration camps in the americas as well. Out of all the rebellions and wars against slavery in Jamaica(and Jamaica had more rebellions than all of the other english colonies in the caribbean combined) , only one was lead by a christian convert. All of the others were lead by nonchristians.
i have said this before and ill say it again , if this was today they would have called our heroes terorist just like they are doing in some places (palestine ) right now .
This is a pleasant surprise. As a Jamaican I never expected to see this on TMR. Thx 4 helping to bring attention to this.
Same and same, I heard it was rough
Same here, leave it to TMR to shed some light on Jamaica's history. People need to realize that underneath the "sunny and musical paradise" venire is a island built on blood and sugarcane . Plus, post-slavery Jamaica wasn't exactly a picnic under the British crown before 1962.
They've done a few segments on the history of Jamaica over the years. Greetings from the Dominican Republic.
I'm a Black Loyalist descendant and the shadow of Jamaica on North American history is a story that needs to be told.
@@GrahamNickerson Every country in the Caribbean is grossly under evaluated, and gives us stunning illumination on the impurity of the American project.
Scotland held the majority of slave trade there, thats why 70 % of Jamaicans have Scottish names
Yes, but are you aware of Jacobite wars of the 17th century and the expulsion of hundreds to the islands like Jamaica by Oliver Cromwell. In the ship's logs there are descriptions of those expelled. Majority described as 'black' with names like Cameron; Douglas etc There is a lot more to this history that is not told.
@@leestab10 I would like to learn more about it. There is one person in particular that I am trying to learn about because his two brothers are noted as property owners for Wigton Pen but for some reason he isn't. So there is a story there about why they left him out. But I am new to all of this research and so grateful to the internet and being able to find information online.
This history needs to be taught in british secondary school, we were never taught about our colonial history
So you need to be taught to hate yourself?
It depends on your age , we had an extensive knowledge of colonial history at school , history is a second class status now sadly
@@africanrhino8508interesting, you make me sick
Jamaica was a colony of the Kingdom of England, Subsequently the Kingdom of Great Britain then the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from 1655-1962.
It was originally a colony of Spain. The English fought them for it.
300 years
1655-current
Reparations needed
Hamilton Brown was one of the biggest Slave owners and traders in Jamaica. Hamilton Brown is Kamala Harris Great, Great Grandfather. He fought against abolition.
I'm reminded of the line from the show American Gods, where Orlando Jones' character talks to the slaves in the ship.
"You didn't realise you were black yet, yall thought you was just people"
It would be nice to close such dark chapters in human history, but never forgetting is the price and the reminder to never write them again, I would hope.
Black people are the only people who have never been compensated for slavery. Every other wronged group has received compensation. People argue that slavery always went on. Not on this scale, not for as long as this, and not as brutal. And not generating the kind of wealth it did for Britain and other European countries.
Tens of millions of Africans died. That holocaust isn't even acknowledged. Many more millions died during the crossing. And people were literally worked to death.
When the slaves were freed, they had nothing. They were given nothing. The slave owners, who made the equivalent of billions today, were given millions to compensate for the loss of their "property". Again, the slaves got nothing. And western countries that built their wealth on the backs of those people apparently think that's okay.
I thought the same thing!
Thank you very informative to me has a Jamaican 🇯🇲 this is very emotional to me .Black my story the untold stories!!🤔
Slavery never ended
Why does it trigger some people when listening to history, information snd facts…called education btw
If you don't find this history profoundly upsetting you're not listening.
@@InternetMameluq very true,, it triggers racists to deny and white wash history!
I guess it depends on any personal connection or the presence of generational trauma stored in the DNA or whether you have a soul or not
i guess white slavery has been hidden to hide emotions
For any Jamaican looking to find out more info about their ancestors who were enslaved the Jamaican slave registers kept from 1817 to 1832 are a great place to start, although a lot of info is left out, its a good starting point in my opinion
THANKS BE TO GOD FOR HIS GOODNESS GRACE AND MERCY WE OVERCOME AND PUT THE DEVIL TO SHAME
My great grandfather was from Jamaica, never met him. Going to Jamaica soon and hope I can find records of my family. I still have 7% of Scottish Dna floating around because of this history 😮💨
One of my ancestors was from Jamaica too.
I hope you find everything and learn a lot. :)
Two of my great grandfathers were from Jamaica!
wickedness, sheer wickedness
GO jamaica. The land of wood and water
how can i get an interview about a topic want to talk about
I searched this up be cuz lm a jamaican and my mom and my dad treat me like a lion and they call me lazy and say this is the real world so yeah
IM AM SAD BC IM JAMAICAN
Never be Sad because you are an Israelite from the tribe of Benjamin..
Learn your true history.
@@waynesimon2425 that is no true stop trying to delude people
not*
powerful stuff here
I don’t know what he means by christian missionaries from the “mother country” spreading the spirit of freedom to Jamaica and other islands. We already had the spirit of freedom. People were fighting for freedom every step of the way from being captured in Africa and marched in the coffle lines, fighting for freedom on the coasts of Africa before being forced onto the ships, fighting for freedom on the ships and fighting for freedom in the concentration camps in the americas as well. Out of all the rebellions and wars against slavery in Jamaica(and Jamaica had more rebellions than all of the other english colonies in the caribbean combined) , only one was lead by a christian convert. All of the others were lead by nonchristians.
I'm here to see if they speak on Hamilton Brown... the Irishman
Just remember, there no shortage of Ivy Leaguers who are eager to say that Americans started the slave trade in 1619.
Golden toilets = golden coaches
i have said this before and ill say it again , if this was today they would have called our heroes terorist just like they are doing in some places (palestine ) right now .
Good interview. Guy sounds like Nick Cage
9 out of ten people was enslave???? You mean 10/10
Great show. Left is best
They drank the souls of black ppl
the person you should be talking to is TARIQ NASHEED.
For what? We'd be calling him a nazi if he were white
For what? He don’t even like Jamaicans… mf spend half his time talking down on Africans and Caribbean’s because we aren’t ADOS
She should be talking to actual Jamaican historian
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, this is really relevant to anything going on today.
It's 100 percent history!
You seem very salty