@@archangeloflies4022 it’s a shame you have a narrative in your head that you go with that you created. Is interstellar made for dumb people who want to be smart? How about Dark on Netflix? Or it just another story meant for entertainment ( yes, yes it is) lol. If I couldn’t connect three 3 neuron’s I wouldn’t even be able to watch the movie …. the conversation wouldn’t even have started….. 😐
@@bricksmith1515 Oh my... I didn't want to be mean I know you watch the Netflix show have you at least watch this video completely? Probably not because he explained logically where is the problem... I would love so bad this show be as good than you seem imagine it to be and i just start the book for this reason and i have some hope but for the serie even though it for entertainment they can do it without taking people for idiots
@@archangeloflies4022 you mean what HE thinks the problem is. every one has their options about shows, He just dramatizes everything and has on “political agenda “ lenses on when doing so. Let go of your expectation to hate it then then maybe you will lol
I can't believe not a single person on the set, on the crew, or the editing team didn't say anything about giant way overdone lip injections and how they look so silly you can't take serious anything the character says. I was waiting for a scene saying the character was recovering from a massive bee colony attack, with a world record number of stings to the lips.
"The smart people never say a single smart thing" ... most of the time the smartest thing to say is nothing. You don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. (Mark Twain) If you mean the so called "smart" people in this Netflix-Series ... i 100% agree with you.
Or they would get scared by our horror movies. Believing that only impossible ghosts and immortal monster, or aliens with tech that defies the laws of physics are considered to be a threat by us humans. Could make them think twice. 😉😜😇 LOL
Benioff and Minute Weiss are Dumb and Dumber, as proven with the last two half seasons of GoT. I honestly hope they accidentally fall into a vat of boiling oil and stay alive for as long as possible. Their destruction of that well loved show deserves the most severe penalties, like: NEVER WORKING AGAIN producing anything. But this will make them disappear for 5 more years too. Ffs, who's penus (sic) did they suck to get work again, seriously... If you want to watch the real show, though subtitled because the Chinese made this the right way already: Three-Body (Chinese: 三体) is a Chinese science fiction television series adapted from the novel The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin Look that one up. I enjoyed it until the unsatisfying end...
having just read the book.. the level of scientific jargon to convey these are "smart people" is about on par with the book. So pretty accurate to the book.
DEI-ESG-Woke. Take your pick. 50% diversity requirements take precedence over actual talent. They are hiring people based on race, gender, or affiliation - not actual talent. That's why.
What even is "modern writing" ? Also when the current era still gets stuff like Arcane, Invincible, Baby Reindeer, Kipo, Dune, Monkey Paw, Minus One, the Spiderverse movies, Love Death and Robots, The new Fallout Series, Shogun, X-Men 97, etc, I am pretty sure that good to great modern stuff still exists. People should stop acting like everything sucks now and that bad writing is some new phenomenon
@@sexy1018 of all this nonsense ive only seen Arcane. and the writing there... the mother of the black council girl is a literal sex tourist orc, Jayce is an emasculated loser compared to league, the undertown is le struggling but two pipes down the line there is a huge ass tree with a clean environment, Jinx has meltdowns at the exact point the plot demands, Vi is le tough girl shaped by prison but the second she is out its "Jinx :( *sad voice" there was so much nonsensical music video style writing in that show. absolutely bad.
However the GOT producers even managed to mess up three body, which is a fully complete novel, unlike GOT, they messed up by making up their own story and not following the book plotline, which wasnt finished yet by the author.
3 body problem is a pretty complex book so im not surprised it didn't translate to the screen well. in an age where people love to throw around the term "media literacy" the actual amount of thoughtful interpretation is so... limited these days
There is a chinese TV-show from last year produced by Tencent that actually does a decent job. It's not great but it was much better than the Netflix version.
Pretty sure 'media literacy' as they use the term, just refers to their insistence that you swallow and believe their propaganda. It's an euphemism for believing bullshit.
It seems like they took things from the book that were actually pretty smart and logical and then made them stupid for TV. Like, the aliens communicate by light pulses so they have no concept of deception. And in the book they study to try to understand this and use it against humanity. But in the show they just go "Lying is a thing that exists?! I don't need to hear more, screw you!"
@@dars5229Yeah that was so incredibly lame, almost the worst scene in the show. The Trisolarans don't trust us because we're warlike, fast at scientific development, and because it's not worth risking their continued survival regardless of how we get along. They wanted a planet in a stable orbit that supports life, they didn't need to know anything else about Earth before they decided on global genocide.
I really disliked the pretty girl. There was nothing to her character other than being pretty and she seemed to whine a lot for being one of the supposedly foremost minds.
It's not a faithful adaptation of the books. The aliens can see and hear everything, that's why the wallfacers have to plot in their heads. Their plans can be carried out after they're dead, or they can be cryogenically frozen. The wallfacer program is one of many strategies and tried and abandoned. The wallfacer plans do overlap, one can obviously impact the others. It gets abandoned and chalked up as a failure but later reactivated and does end up working as a detterent ultimately thanks to one good idea. The staircase project is a gamble that aims to establish contact and learn about the aliens. The aliens abandoned the traitors because they didn't think they needed them anymore and they fear being lied to. Humanities armies get pummeled, and the milky way gets falttened by another race altogether, we don't exactly "win". The aliens don't want to blow up our nukes and wreck the planet because they want to live here which is made clear in the book and the show to be fair, their own planet is doomed to end at some unpredictable future time, because of the 3 body problem. The charcaters were changed from the book significantly, Auggie is a male Chinese applied physicist and the protagonist of the first book, instead of the insufferable snarky mexican super model with the constant pout that we have to put up with in the netflix show. There are plenty of other changes, too many to get into, they fucked it.
Yes, they had to take a chinese series of novels full of chinese characters and sell it to a non chinese audience. And there already is a chinese three body problem series out there as well.
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v I watched most of the Chinese show aswell, it was a bit too long for me at 30 episodes and a bit weird to watch. I'm in favour of making changes when adapting for TV in general, and you really have to with these books, but the Netflix changes were shit. I can see from the comments here that people had a lot of the same issues that I had. The charcter changes were poor and typical of Netflix, apart from Wade. Auggie especially was insufferable.
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v You mean the same chinese series of novels full of chinese characters that have been sold already to non chinese audiences around the world like candy? Yeah, sure, they "had".
@@Dacre1000 There are countless people who haven't read the books but might sit through a TV adaptation, if it's pitched correctly. That said, I don't think Netflix pitched it correctly.
I stopped at the bar scene near the beginning when I saw the blonde being rude because you know how they are 🙄 and I said “watch some idiot white guy will interrupted them and try to pick them up.” And right on cliche, boom, there he was but their intellect scared him away. I was done.
Yeah, I don't get, why they put such blunt bs into everything. Those "feminists" are on a revenge trip and not interested in a change. Change would mean, evolving. What they do is just immature.
@cptrelentless80085 Metal Lords? They served as exec producers, Weiss I think was the writer, but they would have had little if any creative input as producers
Well, nothing can go wrong because nothing went wrong because the show came out a week ago and is great and everyone likes it. Am I missing the joke? Is this channel supposed to be some kind of satire? Everybody here sounds like an npc grifter buzzword lingo bingo card.
The 'millenial' cast are so diverse and so dull and self centered and UN-qualified to save the world. It makes the books characters more 3 dimensional than ever.
@@SwiftNimblefoot but the San-ti have no interest in doing that as they abandoned them because the concept of lying threw them for a loop or they simply had no furthur use for them.
Sad but true. One point though, I don’t buy the aliens not understanding metaphor, seeing that their primary means of communication is a VR game that is a METAPHOR for their own planet’s problems. They say they can’t abide lying, yet their represent their own form as a Ninja lady, which is clearly meant to conceal and deceive, which is… a LIE. Also calling humans bugs is another metaphor. And none of the smart people in charge realize this or call the aliens out on it…
a metaphor is a representation of the truth. lying is to misrepresent the truth. the representation of a ninja lady is like presenting a picture or translating themselves into a 'language' that the humans understand. if i translate a language your don't understand into a language that you can comprehend, does that mean i am lying to you?
@@leeroynaggins both elements are present in the red riding hood story. the fairy tale itself is a metaphor or to be more precise an allegory. however, the actions of the wolf by disguising itself as the grandmother is a lie or deception to 'misrepresent the truth'. i have to say the line of dialogue by the scriptwriter where the San Ti said the story is a 'lie about a liar' is wrong. the scriptwriter got too cute pushing the hyperbole too far. it is an allegory about a liar.
Their use of a VR game as a metaphor doesn't necessarily mean they understand or engage with deception in the same way humans do. Instead, it can be viewed as a form of utilitarian communication, the same way a professor might show students a video and ask them questions to impart an idea. The ninja lady is also a form of utilitarian communication. The same way gore is censored to prevent disgust. When asked why they used that form, they told the truth. Same with censorship. A black bar over nudity doesn't deceive you that there is no nudity. The aliens eventually DO learn to deceive in book 3 of Li Cixin's book. Lastly, calling humans bugs is arguably not a metaphor. It could be a literal evaluation of human life from their perspective. And it's a learned term from a human anyway. They did not come up with that metaphor even if they didn't mean it. In the book, the aliens are incapable of deception, not exactly metaphor, although it has a hard time understanding metaphors, they are capable of using them in conversations. Which is why they understood the "joke" that Ye Wenjie was saying, was not a joke, but a method to defeat them. And why they immediately knew Saul had to die. I think the writers mistook the alien's incapability of deception for incapability of metaphoric language. Which was not in the books so a lot of parts seemed contradictory.
In the book, the wallfacers are put to cryosleep and woken periodically to carry out their plan over the 400 years, if i remember correctly. They will have no doubt censored a lot because the book was written from a very chinese perspective with some aspects and views that go against the sort of politics Netflix would approve of.
This is what took me out from the first book - what kind of science was Mao's China doing, in isolation from everyone? The Chinese tech boom where they stole everyone else's IP was 2005+
@@RealReaperin the books sophons can't do all that hacking stuff they've shown in the series. The show fucked itself over trying to create shock value from the scene by creating this plothole.
@@RealReaper The sophons in books cannot hack electronics, they can only affect sub-atomic level particles and at best trigger some 1 and 0 in a computer chip, not possible to attack all electronics
Yep it made sense there, here they never explain it, also they make the stupid scientist lady feel all bad about her invention being used to kill... when all those people on the ship were traitors to ALL humanity, who want to help aliens come and kill everyone.
It’s supposedly because they literally dont know who/how many people are on board - but infrared scanning and regular surveillance would discover this - and all I could think is that the HD would never survive or be found after the ship is cut up - how did they possibly find it?
In the book, the author explains that the data can be erased quickly in case of alarm. So they had to come up with an effective way to neutralise everyone on the ship. If any of the disks were to be damaged, the data would still be recoverable (because the nanofiber strings are extremely tiny). By the way, I don't remember any mentions of families with kids living on the ship in the book.
Just to quantify what a mess this series is, some budgets: Dune part 1 - $165M Three body problem season 1 -$160M Godzilla minus one - $15M So for the same amount Netflix could have almost made Dune, or made the best godzilla film in decades ten times over. Instead we got special effects that would be bad in dr who, soap opera character dynamics, and one or two neat scifi ideas (which I assume all came from the novel) but were almost entirely buried by the ludicrous plotholes and idiotic character actions.
You are aware the reason Minus One had such a small budget was because the animators and staff were heavily underpaid and overworked, right? If everyone involved was paid properly it would be a lot more than that. Even then, the director himself said that he wishes the budget was $15 million so it was even less than that.
@@lepidoptera9337 I don't doubt there was some love in making the movie but I would think most of it would be extinguished from the long working hours and tight deadlines. Perhaps you're joking around but the japanese film and animation industry isn't exactly incomparable to a sweat shop.
I mean in the book they definitely couldn't.. at first. They communicated through light, so all their thoughts would be broadcast for anyone to see. No concept of lying at all. Obviously, thanks to learning about lying from humans, they adapt.
They can't lie, yet one goes out of its way to say it's a pacifist from their species. Kind of an odd way to ID yourself if you don't comprehend the concept of misdirection/lying. I haven't read the books but perhaps the aliens who initially responded aren't the same ones on their way to Earth.
We'll start fro where that you are not the benchmark of genius on earth and everything true is not a parroting of your points. In a similar way humans are not the benchmark of intellect and every othe intelligence in the nature does not have to operate in a similar way. In terms of computation deception is a very costly operation for all involved parties equally so in terms of energy preservation it is very irrational especially when the environment makes the cost higher.
They are a species that can't hide their own thoughts from each other and evolved to think collectively via telepathy. How would they know what lying is??
not really. A woman, actual intellectual, who has lost everything to human cruelty and wants humanity to die. Wang jie and a narcissistic eco terrorist. Evans not "self appointed intellectuals"
It’s really funny you got this impression. In the book, the alien is a metaphor of usa/west who is a looming threat against China and is blocking the science developments of China.
you had me at weiss and benioff. why anyone would ever put these two jokers in charge of a creative project ever again is beyond me. i don't think I've ever seen a fall from grace quite like what GoT experienced..
Networking... they know people... and the system is too screwed to filter them out , there's no one in the system anymore with talent so they get hired
Don’t be surprised mate. Nowadays you fail upwards in the industry, I mean look at all these directors, writers etc. that constantly put out dog shit that completely fails & bombs yet they keep getting new roles or projects. Even promoted! It’ll take a serious felony charge for them to get fired or no work.
I didn't wanna watch it after the got rid of the cop Shi Quiang literally the best character as a cop who has the more basic outlook on the situation and despite his rough personality he actually is the rock that keeps the characters stable when they believe all hope is lost
@@MakanaTheCoder and another problem in the ship, evens don't have time to escape(in tv show,he has enough time to broken all the data) he just be sliced without sensitive time
In the books, the sophons are limited in their ability, they can't affect everything on earth at the same time. They are only there to fuck with any advanced physics research to prevent theoritical physics progression.
Worst part is they fucking show it as the computer manipulating particle accelarator results, but they don´t explicitly say it so it seems it can do fuckall.
@@sofaking9404 yeah they made it overpowered as hell yet essentially passive it can take down all computers on earth simultaneously. Our civilization would collapse in weeks with that
@@StyxxOfDidymos i remember spying, messing with scientific instruments and that's about it i do not even remotely have the time to reread those massive books
Ye sending the message was her seeing the worst in humanity and deciding that they were unworthy to govern themselves, that surely something else must be better or annihilation is fine to her. It's an act of despair.
it would translate extremely well to tv, as is evident by the fact that 2 shows exist that millions liked apart from.... this guy and a couple others I guess.
I'm reading the book, and I wouldn't say it translates well to written text either. It's not terrible, but it's more of a chore than it needs to be. Greg Egan has covered somewhat similar material, and if anything is even more dense, but better executed. Might be a West/East translation thing, though.
@@varonvan6336 If it takes EIGHT HOURS of screen time to set up the “juicy” parts, that is a trash show. I’m not eating slop for eight days just to have cake for one meal.
@@hulkmad27 Being able to fundamentally 'turn off' physics to break all known science, using entirely unexplained macguffin magic operated by a nondimentional supercomputer AI, is literally the opposite of hard sci-fi. It's less concered with scientific accuracy than a Star Wars hyperdrive, and less affiliated with logic than a special-ed class. There are full-on fantasy franchise with actual magic systems more grounded in logic and reality.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access it’s not bad I enjoyed it. It’s a good westernized adaptation from the books. I just don’t think people get the bigger concept and how cool of a story it actually is. You’ll just focus on the politics.
12:26 the sophons cant disrupt all of science just molecular science. Thereby making the results of the experiments to be random which in turn makes it impossible for that branch of science to move further
@@Sajuek In the book a basketball-sized sophon responds to air pressure and the touch of the Princeps. A planet-sized sophon shaped into a parabolic mirror by a higher dimensional civilization nearly burns down the San-Ti capital with a sun-powered heat ray. Proton or not, these things substantially impact the macro world. My guess is the head would explode.
@@Hunpecked I am aware. The sophon, regardless, has the mass of a proton. It cannot "explode" anyone's head as it cannot push against anything with any amount of force. You would experience drag if you push against it, but that is only you pushing against the air. It cannot push against you as it can only create an equal and opposite reaction in line with its mass, and with the mass of a proton it does not have the strength to effect you physically. This is actually specifically explained by the Trisolaris science consult in the very scene you are referring to. So I am not sure why you are confused.
I did love the sense of mystery the first 3 - 4 episodes had, but the moment they had the reveal in episode 5, the second half of the show was the characters hammering on the exact same point for 3 hours straight, it got boring so quickly, wish I spent my evening doing anything else.
I laugh at anyone who complains about modern tv. Its been absolute trash for a decade now. Same as 95% of films & music. Our society is creatively bankrupt.
More like everyone at the top is creatively bankrupt and anyone with some kind of original idea is pushed away and never given the opportunity because the top says so.
17:29: The series it not a faithful adaption. There have been made many changes making it worse. For example: 18:25: The sophons are not overpowered in the novels. They can spy and manipulate collision experiments, but not inferfere with the macroscopic world at all. They certainly can't hack electronics and don't unfold over the Earth. In fact the second book even calls both out to be stupid. 18:42: Exactly what happens in the books. The universe flickering happens in the infrared spectrum, so only a single person with special glasses sees it happen. The message "You are bugs!" is only displayed with sophons to a single room of people. No sophons unfold over Earth. The aliens don't care about impressing bugs and prefer to rather let scientists go crazy without anyone believing them. The series tries too desperately to impress and too less to actually set up and explain. For example: 15:42: They won't as there is hibernation. But it's not even mentioned and only crammed in out of nowhere in a single scene before. 15:56: Because in the novels you do already know a lot about the aliens. Again most of it was just left out.
@@iamarugin He does he even said he doubts its a faithful adaptation, and he turns out to be right, D&D made the alien super computers brutally overpowered compared to the books
@@iamarugin Yes, Reaper doesn't know anything about the books but is ok, the idea of a show is to draw more people into the material. And the show is doing a bad job at this. The series is at best a 6/10 or a 5/10
@@dogwklr 2:08 It's explained he's the leader of some big intelligence agency (I forgot which one) 2:50 the video is claiming the violence is to get more attention a la GoT but it was in the original book 3:20 he says the SAS would be better but that's not true as explained in the show 3:28 he says he "hopes the hard drive will somehow not be destroyed" but the actual reason is that hard drives can be fixed easily, especially if they're cut precisely by the scifi wires in the show. Also hard drives won't get major damage from water, so it falling into the river is not a concern 6:06 is just flat out something that never happens in the show. 9:11 "technology that can do anything except this apparently" when fast travel is like one of the hardest engineering problems ever. 10:30 The organisation was laughably incompetent at everything in the show except for the one lady who they remain in contact with. 12:25 The supercomputers can't stop all progress, they can only do 2 things at a time, this is explained in the show. 13:00 is not at all mentioned in the show. It is a plot point in the book though, makes me think that the creator of the video just read off wikipedia... 13:30 the brain is there just to make sure the aliens don't blow up the ship before it can take a picture of the fleet 14:00 same as 13:00
@@banhammer3904 No, they don't sound like garbage. Garbage books don't win massive awards that are exclusively reserved for prestige stories. "generic alien invasion" is enough proof that you know jack shit about the books because there's no fucking invasion in any of the 3 books. The books literally end with both civilizations getting destroyed by a 3rd party civilization from trillions of light years away because they are advanced to the point where "invasion" is an ancient term to them.
Yeah it was crap, i literally only saw the CGI bit and fast forwarded all the drama(too much). And I had to Google each time I watched an important scene to know that I wasn't the only one who thought how dumb that was
The wire cutting scene is pulled directly from the book and is explained in the book as the only way to kill everyone fast enough to make sure the HDD can't be erased or destroyed while not hiring the HDD. On the book they calculate where the HDD is on the ship and how much space you need to give it clearance
I thought this was the coolest kill scene on a ship since the movie Ghost Ship. It was epic.. I liked the show.. too many haters out there looking for a reason to be annoyed.
*spoiler* the aliens never arrive and the solar system is destroyed by another species, a few humans survive. Now you don't have to embarrass yourself by reviewing bad adaptations of classic books.
I watched the whole season and I have to agree. It was very slow and uneventful, full of gender- and race-swapped characters as usual, some added unnecessary feminist crap like the bar scene or by the insufferable latina, anti-human sentiments, a communist becoming a humanity-traitor of course, a black female UN "world leader" which has been an agenda detail they've used in 3 shows only in the last few months (Invasion, Monarch, 3 Body Problem), the only white men of the friend group died, the dumbass plan of retrieving a HD by putting it in danger of being sliced into pieces along with the entire ship... It's also such a lazy tease and a cop-out that the aliens basically said they were disguising their true form for our sake. How could they know their true form would be too frightening? And they were coming to conquer, so what's the point in disguising it for our sake anyway? The alien-loving, injured woman who managed to CRAWL out of the building unseen with people all over was also stupid. I can forgive some stupidity for the sake of "there wouldn't be a show otherwise" if the aliens were so smart they didn't make mistakes... It was just that when it all added up, it was not a great package. It was too boring for its own good.
the ship part made sense in the books, as if at any sign of attack the ship owner would have destroyed all the data, but they made it into a stupid red hard drive with petabytes of storage in the movie for no reason, also the ship was not supposed to be filled with children
@@HYDROCARBON_XDyou already know that only only produces entertainment for soulless poc lovers and soyboys, what did you expect? a faithful representation of the book? i'm surprised they did not replace luo ji with a sassy black trans woman, i'm sure they proposed the idea to their executives
My first thought when I saw the San-Ti’s ability to control all tech was "So they are gonna use it in the next episode to cause chaos by making all electronics stop working right?" Then the next episode rolled around and I was like, "oh... so they used that over powered ability only once huh. Neat."
I just thought it was dumb because the San-Ti could've set humanity back like hundreds of years (which is what they wanted to do in the first place) super easily by shutting down the use of all electronics... which they demonstrated they can do in episode 5. They didn't though... why? So the plot could happen lol. @@user-pd7sd9wl3l
This show has so many plot holes, inconsistencies and scenes that are genuinely stupid; that i've lost several million brain cells just by watching it.
Twist.. 5days is right, and writing a show that has no solutions or logical endings is simply bad writing. Tv seasons, movies with sequels, all still need to have a beginning, middle, and end, or it's just lazy, shit, writing
@seekerhooligan781 give me an example because I saw barely any plot holes, but I also know what is coming in the next season because this is all just getting set up
The statement in 2:55 problem is actually answered in the book and the tencent adaptation. The problem with Netflix's adaptation is that they changed so many things that it left gaps and messed up the science that it doesn't make sense anymore. Of course they wouldn't bother cause they just want us to dumb us with sensationalist visuals and CGI.
Lmao I knew Reaper will love it from the first episode😅 Pandering was off charts, that even the UN Secretary-General is a black lady when no woman in history was one.
I just couldn't really get past so many characters ignoring the VR headset, from the detective guy taking a ridiculously long time to link it with the string of weird suicides, to accepting that all of these intelligent people used it despite there being no device or manufacturer info on it whatsoever., and not knowing where it came from. Its just too far outside the realm of believability.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Accesshow do you know it's "mid-to-garbage show" if you haven't even seen it? 95% of people who've seen it - liked it. There's no need for this revisionist history bullshit. This channel and it's audience are so pathetic jesus christ why does youtube algorithm keep deciding to push this grifter garbage on to me???
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access no one's asking you to waste the full 8 hours. But you can form an opinion on how interested you are in the concept well before the full run of the show.
have u watched the tencent ver of 3 body? maybe you will like that since I prefer it than the netflix ver but you might also think that its boring since the pacing is really slow
@@ExpertContrarian crazy cause that was the only cringey woke scene in the show, I’m glad I got passed that, I still find the books superior to the Netflix adaptation but it wasn’t bad at all, the show peaked at episode 5 with some good build up throughout. Wasn’t boutta let politics and wokeness ruin a show for me. I just ignore shit like that in shows, but I can understand why you would drop it just off that scene, it’s hard to ignore when they shove that shit in front of our faces all the time🙄
@@KingDingDong69 pretty crazy that you think having standards is crazy. That is most definitely not the only thing anyways. It’s the entire show as you can tell by the cast. I don’t see what’s crazy about being against hateful ideology. Not to mention the nonsensical plot that I thankfully missed out on
I feel so bad for Benedict, watching Marco Polo seeing him command the scene as the great Khan larger than life, I fee like he is never again given the opportunity to own the room.
@@axelg5 How could a pacifist even get in a position to handle such an important assignment for an aggressive species trying to survive? Especially when they can't lie. Actually, why would such a species even need contact with another species to go hopping to the nearest star to find another planet anyway? They'd just come regardless of whether we were here or not. We can already almost image planets that close to us, they surely have far better telescopes to know Earth was here and habitable.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 to image the planets from nearest star systems you need a telescope of size of the solar system. Which is impossible even for advanced civilization.
@@iamarugin One, that's not even remotely accurate, we already have the ability to take actual visible light pictures of extrasolar planets. The first such photo was composited in 2004, and it was taken from ground-based telescopes, not even orbital ones. This is not magic, it just takes accurate adjustments of telescopes and time. Secondly, the Trisolarians can literally build 11th dimensional computers that can unfold from the size of a proton to become 2 dimensional constructs that can wrap around the entire planet. They can make a mirror of any size they want. Not that they'd need to, there's many ways to image a world besides visible light. They could easily determine at the Earth exists and has life on it, long before they got anywhere near their current tech level. We can already basically do this, so they certainly could.
they don't do the countdown are shown in photograph? countdown in their retina are applied to the photograph they take as the light reflected to the retina and reflected back into the camera and then to the photo?
I dont think the show is as boring or bad you describe it, def worth a watch since its just a few episodes. I think if its too boring you can just skip watching it and that should be the end of it, instead of watching the whole show and analyzing every detail and making a 20 mins rant about why its sucks. Your channel will go nowhere shitting on random shows.
2:55 I read the first book and this scene is not stupid and actually the only solution to extract the hard drive. If you infiltrated the boat with the SAS the moment that someone realised they would delete all the hard drive files in a matter of seconds. The thing about the nano material is that it cuts so thin that even if the the hard drive was cut it would still be repairable. The only thing they did wrong in the show is lacking a bit of explanation.
@@rekanpayne6606 nah, Ithink the trap worked a lot faster than an ops team raiding the ship. Still Price's character did get to the hard drive and should of destroyed it if he wasn't in a panic.
It's true, its another women perfect, men weak series, which looks visually great, but the story is just full of plot holes and unexplainable solutions to the problems it confronts.
2 episodes in and I had to just come and watch a youtube video lmao I was like not going to waste 8 hours on this. Makes sense that this is so dumb considering the writers.
I came across the 3 body problem in the UA-cam channel called Quinn's Ideas. There is is amazing the way he has broken the whole book down to. This adaptation is an abomination.
@j3fr0uk I agree 💯 %. I guess he is looking for that payday and blowing up as a channel. But the show was garbage. I could not watch it for more than 5 minutes.
Thank you for this! I sat through this at the behest of my wife, and was astonished at how stupid it was. It made me lose my faith in contemporary Chinese sci-fi, to be honest
If the aliens are so advanced why didn't they solve the problem or make their multidimensional proton (that can alter reality) protect them from the chaotic Era??
mm .. they're not god thats why, ... They're technologically advanced only up to a point ... you just have to accept that as the premise of the story. Its a fictional story, its up to the writer to put a limit on how advanced an alien species is, not being more advanced is not a "loophole", its just a creative choice imposed for dramatisation ...
because then there would be no plot or conflict you freaking goof. The whole story is made up. "why don't the aliens just stop the entire plot from happening and remove the entire purpose of the show?" Do you really need an answer to that? No one wants to watch a show about aliens that are so advanced that they have no problems at all. That sounds BORING.
It generally sounds like a cool concept, it's a shame it got made by Netflix
It’s a shame you can’t think for yourself because it’s an amazing show.
@@bricksmith1515It's a shame that you can't connect three neurons because he right this show have been made for dumb people who want to feel smart.
@@archangeloflies4022 it’s a shame you have a narrative in your head that you go with that you created. Is interstellar made for dumb people who want to be smart? How about Dark on Netflix? Or it just another story meant for entertainment ( yes, yes it is) lol. If I couldn’t connect three 3 neuron’s I wouldn’t even be able to watch the movie ….
the conversation wouldn’t even have started….. 😐
@@bricksmith1515 Oh my... I didn't want to be mean I know you watch the Netflix show have you at least watch this video completely? Probably not because he explained logically where is the problem... I would love so bad this show be as good than you seem imagine it to be and i just start the book for this reason and i have some hope but for the serie even though it for entertainment they can do it without taking people for idiots
@@archangeloflies4022 you mean what HE thinks the problem is. every one has their options about shows, He just dramatizes everything and has on “political agenda “ lenses on when doing so. Let go of your expectation to hate it then then maybe you will lol
0:40 '' They have finally crawled out from whatever shithole they have been hiding in " Bruh 💀💀
this sin't even that hard
The smart people never say a single smart thing
I can't believe not a single person on the set, on the crew, or the editing team didn't say anything about giant way overdone lip injections and how they look so silly you can't take serious anything the character says.
I was waiting for a scene saying the character was recovering from a massive bee colony attack, with a world record number of stings to the lips.
@@PowerScissor actual LOL
It's a chinese novels anyways 😂
"The smart people never say a single smart thing" ... most of the time the smartest thing to say is nothing. You don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. (Mark Twain)
If you mean the so called "smart" people in this Netflix-Series ... i 100% agree with you.
I hope aliens never get access to modern movies and shows. One look at shows like this and the aliens might decide to kill us out of sheer annoyance.
Please. I cant wait any longer.
So pressing the button is a logical choice afterall. 😂
Or they would get scared by our horror movies. Believing that only impossible ghosts and immortal monster, or aliens with tech that defies the laws of physics are considered to be a threat by us humans. Could make them think twice. 😉😜😇 LOL
The most painful thing to watch is smart people being written by 'dumb' people.
Benioff and Minute Weiss are Dumb and Dumber, as proven with the last two half seasons of GoT. I honestly hope they accidentally fall into a vat of boiling oil and stay alive for as long as possible. Their destruction of that well loved show deserves the most severe penalties, like: NEVER WORKING AGAIN producing anything. But this will make them disappear for 5 more years too. Ffs, who's penus (sic) did they suck to get work again, seriously...
If you want to watch the real show, though subtitled because the Chinese made this the right way already:
Three-Body (Chinese: 三体) is a Chinese science fiction television series adapted from the novel The Three-Body Problem by Liu Cixin
Look that one up. I enjoyed it until the unsatisfying end...
having just read the book.. the level of scientific jargon to convey these are "smart people" is about on par with the book. So pretty accurate to the book.
So true. I think Reaper used this quote in other reviews, so this might be a common observation... unfortunately.
It's the AOC effect, appear smart but be as mentally advanced as stale jizz on a keyboard
That means nothing.
Why does modern writing have to suck SO much and for so long?
the US is occupied.
thats why.
DEI-ESG-Woke. Take your pick. 50% diversity requirements take precedence over actual talent. They are hiring people based on race, gender, or affiliation - not actual talent. That's why.
What even is "modern writing" ? Also when the current era still gets stuff like Arcane, Invincible, Baby Reindeer, Kipo, Dune, Monkey Paw, Minus One, the Spiderverse movies, Love Death and Robots, The new Fallout Series, Shogun, X-Men 97, etc, I am pretty sure that good to great modern stuff still exists. People should stop acting like everything sucks now and that bad writing is some new phenomenon
@@sexy1018 of all this nonsense ive only seen Arcane. and the writing there... the mother of the black council girl is a literal sex tourist orc, Jayce is an emasculated loser compared to league, the undertown is le struggling but two pipes down the line there is a huge ass tree with a clean environment, Jinx has meltdowns at the exact point the plot demands, Vi is le tough girl shaped by prison but the second she is out its "Jinx :( *sad voice"
there was so much nonsensical music video style writing in that show. absolutely bad.
White people bad. DEI rules everything
Personally, the most believable thing in the show is Keiko O'Brien being the destroyer of humanity.
They only proved that the writing in GoT's good seasons had nothing to do with them.
However the GOT producers even managed to mess up three body, which is a fully complete novel, unlike GOT, they messed up by making up their own story and not following the book plotline, which wasnt finished yet by the author.
Omg yes, the dialogues are Bing Bang Theory level. Kinda surprised its the same creators as game of thrones
@@TheHarshil the source materials are not from the directors of game of thrones, the story is based on a chinese sci-fi novel.
Shows great... you should watch it before you judge
@@TheHarshilhow is that surprising? GoT became garbage the minute they didn’t have any book to base it off any more
3 body problem is a pretty complex book so im not surprised it didn't translate to the screen well. in an age where people love to throw around the term "media literacy" the actual amount of thoughtful interpretation is so... limited these days
There is a chinese TV-show from last year produced by Tencent that actually does a decent job. It's not great but it was much better than the Netflix version.
Pretty sure 'media literacy' as they use the term, just refers to their insistence that you swallow and believe their propaganda. It's an euphemism for believing bullshit.
It seems like they took things from the book that were actually pretty smart and logical and then made them stupid for TV. Like, the aliens communicate by light pulses so they have no concept of deception. And in the book they study to try to understand this and use it against humanity. But in the show they just go "Lying is a thing that exists?! I don't need to hear more, screw you!"
@@dars5229Yeah that was so incredibly lame, almost the worst scene in the show. The Trisolarans don't trust us because we're warlike, fast at scientific development, and because it's not worth risking their continued survival regardless of how we get along. They wanted a planet in a stable orbit that supports life, they didn't need to know anything else about Earth before they decided on global genocide.
Eh.
I really disliked the pretty girl. There was nothing to her character other than being pretty and she seemed to whine a lot for being one of the supposedly foremost minds.
And her lips took up 1/3 the screen & were so punchable.
I like how the black character basically tell her that.
Especially in the scenes where she’s supposed to be stressed out. It’s just cringe
she was so badly cast.
Her character in the book is a guy I think so they changed it in this show so that feminists can be happy
It was so bad, I didnt care about any of them and it just went nowhere. It also seemed like a thinly veiled lecture about climate change.
and how bad white men are
It's not a faithful adaptation of the books.
The aliens can see and hear everything, that's why the wallfacers have to plot in their heads.
Their plans can be carried out after they're dead, or they can be cryogenically frozen.
The wallfacer program is one of many strategies and tried and abandoned. The wallfacer plans do overlap, one can obviously impact the others. It gets abandoned and chalked up as a failure but later reactivated and does end up working as a detterent ultimately thanks to one good idea.
The staircase project is a gamble that aims to establish contact and learn about the aliens.
The aliens abandoned the traitors because they didn't think they needed them anymore and they fear being lied to.
Humanities armies get pummeled, and the milky way gets falttened by another race altogether, we don't exactly "win".
The aliens don't want to blow up our nukes and wreck the planet because they want to live here which is made clear in the book and the show to be fair, their own planet is doomed to end at some unpredictable future time, because of the 3 body problem.
The charcaters were changed from the book significantly, Auggie is a male Chinese applied physicist and the protagonist of the first book, instead of the insufferable snarky mexican super model with the constant pout that we have to put up with in the netflix show.
There are plenty of other changes, too many to get into, they fucked it.
Yes, they had to take a chinese series of novels full of chinese characters and sell it to a non chinese audience. And there already is a chinese three body problem series out there as well.
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v
I watched most of the Chinese show aswell, it was a bit too long for me at 30 episodes and a bit weird to watch.
I'm in favour of making changes when adapting for TV in general, and you really have to with these books, but the Netflix changes were shit. I can see from the comments here that people had a lot of the same issues that I had.
The charcter changes were poor and typical of Netflix, apart from Wade. Auggie especially was insufferable.
@@user-lp1fj3ny9v You mean the same chinese series of novels full of chinese characters that have been sold already to non chinese audiences around the world like candy? Yeah, sure, they "had".
@@Dacre1000 There are countless people who haven't read the books but might sit through a TV adaptation, if it's pitched correctly. That said, I don't think Netflix pitched it correctly.
lol I got annoyed with her constant pouty expression too
I stopped at the bar scene near the beginning when I saw the blonde being rude because you know how they are 🙄 and I said “watch some idiot white guy will interrupted them and try to pick them up.” And right on cliche, boom, there he was but their intellect scared him away. I was done.
Yeah, I don't get, why they put such blunt bs into everything. Those "feminists" are on a revenge trip and not interested in a change. Change would mean, evolving. What they do is just immature.
Ha that's exactly when I stopped too. Bad writing is insufferable
Your not the only ones, me too.. unwatchable.
Same
Same
When i saw that i think, "here we go again" 🙄
Ah yes, D&D's first production since Thrones.
What could possibly go wrong?
Other than that one that died after they left thrones
@cptrelentless80085 Metal Lords?
They served as exec producers, Weiss I think was the writer, but they would have had little if any creative input as producers
Well, nothing can go wrong because nothing went wrong because the show came out a week ago and is great and everyone likes it.
Am I missing the joke? Is this channel supposed to be some kind of satire? Everybody here sounds like an npc grifter buzzword lingo bingo card.
how'd This ending's landing stick?
@@adamheywood113 maybe a Star Wares movie/show/whatever that was cancelled
🤣 "coming to culturally enrich the planet."
like muslim invaders...
They are all doctors and engineers
With diversity
If they follow the book faithfully, Earth actually got destroyed somewhere down the line because of human stupidity lol
As it was written
And by another woman no less.
because of women ingenuity actually
The 'millenial' cast are so diverse and so dull and self centered and UN-qualified to save the world. It makes the books characters more 3 dimensional than ever.
All of them including the dying one is insufferable at best. Everyone is an emotional mess that can't even save themselves rather save humanity😏
@@Ty_Djal Luo Ji has a reasonable arch, he is only insufferable at the start.
@@Ty_Djal Saul didnt change at all in the show, he was ok at best.
@@Ty_DjalWho will stick around to see it? I predict a cancellation.
@@mixelplikYou predict a cancellation for a show that is sitting at Netflix number 1 spot since release?
They gave a power boost to the sophons in the show that creates a plot chasm
Yeah if they could do this, then the boat assault would have never worked as the sophons would have shut down the nanofibers...
@@SwiftNimblefootHow exactly would the sophon have shut down the nanofibers? They're just very small, ultra strong strings.
@@SwiftNimblefoot but the San-ti have no interest in doing that as they abandoned them because the concept of lying threw them for a loop or they simply had no furthur use for them.
@@SwiftNimblefoot Except it was explained that they didnt want to protect the ship anymore after learning about lying, are you fucking retarded?
@@Justownerthey were being controlled by computers - and by people who could have been tricked
Sad but true. One point though, I don’t buy the aliens not understanding metaphor, seeing that their primary means of communication is a VR game that is a METAPHOR for their own planet’s problems.
They say they can’t abide lying, yet their represent their own form as a Ninja lady, which is clearly meant to conceal and deceive, which is… a LIE.
Also calling humans bugs is another metaphor.
And none of the smart people in charge realize this or call the aliens out on it…
a metaphor is a representation of the truth. lying is to misrepresent the truth. the representation of a ninja lady is like presenting a picture or translating themselves into a 'language' that the humans understand. if i translate a language your don't understand into a language that you can comprehend, does that mean i am lying to you?
@@hailyrizzo5428 You just explained the whole point of the Red Riding Hood story.
@@leeroynaggins both elements are present in the red riding hood story. the fairy tale itself is a metaphor or to be more precise an allegory. however, the actions of the wolf by disguising itself as the grandmother is a lie or deception to 'misrepresent the truth'. i have to say the line of dialogue by the scriptwriter where the San Ti said the story is a 'lie about a liar' is wrong. the scriptwriter got too cute pushing the hyperbole too far. it is an allegory about a liar.
Their use of a VR game as a metaphor doesn't necessarily mean they understand or engage with deception in the same way humans do. Instead, it can be viewed as a form of utilitarian communication, the same way a professor might show students a video and ask them questions to impart an idea. The ninja lady is also a form of utilitarian communication. The same way gore is censored to prevent disgust. When asked why they used that form, they told the truth. Same with censorship. A black bar over nudity doesn't deceive you that there is no nudity. The aliens eventually DO learn to deceive in book 3 of Li Cixin's book. Lastly, calling humans bugs is arguably not a metaphor. It could be a literal evaluation of human life from their perspective. And it's a learned term from a human anyway. They did not come up with that metaphor even if they didn't mean it. In the book, the aliens are incapable of deception, not exactly metaphor, although it has a hard time understanding metaphors, they are capable of using them in conversations. Which is why they understood the "joke" that Ye Wenjie was saying, was not a joke, but a method to defeat them. And why they immediately knew Saul had to die. I think the writers mistook the alien's incapability of deception for incapability of metaphoric language. Which was not in the books so a lot of parts seemed contradictory.
The ninja lady herself explains that they learned deception from studying a human brain that was sent to them.
Tbh a show depicting the communists as the petty brutal tyrants they were is shocking to me
Preach it, sister. Truth rising to the top is getting heard to find.
When you see it first hand your entire life it almost writes itself
Yeah first time ive seen the cultural revolution for what it was brutal mass execution of teachers and the educated
In the book, the wallfacers are put to cryosleep and woken periodically to carry out their plan over the 400 years, if i remember correctly. They will have no doubt censored a lot because the book was written from a very chinese perspective with some aspects and views that go against the sort of politics Netflix would approve of.
This is what took me out from the first book - what kind of science was Mao's China doing, in isolation from everyone? The Chinese tech boom where they stole everyone else's IP was 2005+
but in the show the sophons can hack all electronics so they would just turn off the cryogenic machines
I guess the Netflix show is stupid but we knew that. Supposedly the Chinese adaptation of the book was better. @@RealReaper
@@RealReaperin the books sophons can't do all that hacking stuff they've shown in the series. The show fucked itself over trying to create shock value from the scene by creating this plothole.
@@RealReaper The sophons in books cannot hack electronics, they can only affect sub-atomic level particles and at best trigger some 1 and 0 in a computer chip, not possible to attack all electronics
The panama canal scene is from the books.
There are supposed to be trained men on the ship.
More than just 1 hard drive
Yep it made sense there, here they never explain it, also they make the stupid scientist lady feel all bad about her invention being used to kill... when all those people on the ship were traitors to ALL humanity, who want to help aliens come and kill everyone.
thats why TenCent is much better
It’s supposedly because they literally dont know who/how many people are on board - but infrared scanning and regular surveillance would discover this - and all I could think is that the HD would never survive or be found after the ship is cut up - how did they possibly find it?
@@Daniel-rp7nb in the book it doesn't matter.
it's an excuse to move the plot forward
In the book, the author explains that the data can be erased quickly in case of alarm. So they had to come up with an effective way to neutralise everyone on the ship.
If any of the disks were to be damaged, the data would still be recoverable (because the nanofiber strings are extremely tiny).
By the way, I don't remember any mentions of families with kids living on the ship in the book.
Just to quantify what a mess this series is, some budgets:
Dune part 1 - $165M
Three body problem season 1 -$160M
Godzilla minus one - $15M
So for the same amount Netflix could have almost made Dune, or made the best godzilla film in decades ten times over. Instead we got special effects that would be bad in dr who, soap opera character dynamics, and one or two neat scifi ideas (which I assume all came from the novel) but were almost entirely buried by the ludicrous plotholes and idiotic character actions.
Forward Unto Dawn - just under $10m.
They paid how much for this mess??? Seriously. Wow. Just wow.
You are aware the reason Minus One had such a small budget was because the animators and staff were heavily underpaid and overworked, right? If everyone involved was paid properly it would be a lot more than that. Even then, the director himself said that he wishes the budget was $15 million so it was even less than that.
@@725ken Ah, so that movie is a labor of love, while this thing was just for profit grudge work. It shows. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 I don't doubt there was some love in making the movie but I would think most of it would be extinguished from the long working hours and tight deadlines.
Perhaps you're joking around but the japanese film and animation industry isn't exactly incomparable to a sweat shop.
"Aliens can not lie" press X to doubt HARD
I mean in the book they definitely couldn't.. at first. They communicated through light, so all their thoughts would be broadcast for anyone to see. No concept of lying at all. Obviously, thanks to learning about lying from humans, they adapt.
They can't lie, yet one goes out of its way to say it's a pacifist from their species. Kind of an odd way to ID yourself if you don't comprehend the concept of misdirection/lying.
I haven't read the books but perhaps the aliens who initially responded aren't the same ones on their way to Earth.
We'll start fro where that you are not the benchmark of genius on earth and everything true is not a parroting of your points. In a similar way humans are not the benchmark of intellect and every othe intelligence in the nature does not have to operate in a similar way. In terms of computation deception is a very costly operation for all involved parties equally so in terms of energy preservation it is very irrational especially when the environment makes the cost higher.
They are a species that can't hide their own thoughts from each other and evolved to think collectively via telepathy. How would they know what lying is??
@@axelg5that makes so much more sense than the way the show portrayed it
A group of self appointed intellectuals asking the aliens to come and take their resources...I live in the western world so this story makes sense 😂
not really.
A woman, actual intellectual, who has lost everything to human cruelty and wants humanity to die. Wang jie
and a narcissistic eco terrorist. Evans
not "self appointed intellectuals"
👍
In the case of both this show and real life, not mere 'intellectuals', but full on communists.
It’s really funny you got this impression. In the book, the alien is a metaphor of usa/west who is a looming threat against China and is blocking the science developments of China.
@@sidneysun3865 no it's not
you had me at weiss and benioff. why anyone would ever put these two jokers in charge of a creative project ever again is beyond me. i don't think I've ever seen a fall from grace quite like what GoT experienced..
Because they're Jewish. There, mystery solved.
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
@@paull4858what lol
Networking... they know people... and the system is too screwed to filter them out , there's no one in the system anymore with talent so they get hired
Don’t be surprised mate. Nowadays you fail upwards in the industry, I mean look at all these directors, writers etc. that constantly put out dog shit that completely fails & bombs yet they keep getting new roles or projects. Even promoted! It’ll take a serious felony charge for them to get fired or no work.
This was a fantastic series. Best Ive seen in YEARS.
It was an intriguing premise but ultimately it was just a bad drama show with an alien invasion background
"Netflix adaptation" The poor bastards never even had a chance...
bullcrap people like Reaper feed on your confrimation bias. he is lying his ass off. or he did not pay any attention.
I didn't wanna watch it after the got rid of the cop Shi Quiang literally the best character as a cop who has the more basic outlook on the situation and despite his rough personality he actually is the rock that keeps the characters stable when they believe all hope is lost
Netflix has a way of killing off all of their most interesting characters.
Being wrong is ok, you just have to start by admitting it
Why don’t the aliens just use the Sophons to remove the humans
in book, sophons can't do that.
thet can't controll the screen or automobile
@@user-fd2zm4ne4z thank you. They should’ve stayed true to the book lol
@@MakanaTheCoder and another problem
in the ship, evens don't have time to escape(in tv show,he has enough time to broken all the data)
he just be sliced without sensitive time
@@user-fd2zm4ne4z
That confused me in the show. I was constantly wondering why the Aliens don't mess us up way more.
In the books, the sophons are limited in their ability, they can't affect everything on earth at the same time.
They are only there to fuck with any advanced physics research to prevent theoritical physics progression.
Worst part is they fucking show it as the computer manipulating particle accelarator results, but they don´t explicitly say it so it seems it can do fuckall.
@@sofaking9404 yeah they made it overpowered as hell yet essentially passive
it can take down all computers on earth simultaneously. Our civilization would collapse in weeks with that
@@sofaking9404they literally do say it in the show. Very clearly, if you didn’t get it then thats a you problem.
The sophons do far more than,that you should reread the books.
@@StyxxOfDidymos i remember spying, messing with scientific instruments and that's about it
i do not even remotely have the time to reread those massive books
'you are bugs' on screens make people worldwide panic, while they were so cool about universe blinking and say it's fake
Yeah the fat dude was such a dumbass. Yeah bro the stars blinking which is physically impossible is just a scam lmao.
"its a piece of shit" LOL
Succinct and to the point. God it was awful
3:00 so literally just the opening scene from ghost ship
Dude, that scene came out of nowhere and freaked me right the F out when I saw it for the first time. Absolutely brilliant.
Yep yep yep!
Wow it really is the opening scene of ghost ship lmao. Good movie.
Pleasant flashbacks unlocked )))
ok what about it?
"went into hiding, and crawled out from whatever shithole they have been hiding in ' made me spit my tea out! had me in stiches fml 🤣
Ye sending the message was her seeing the worst in humanity and deciding that they were unworthy to govern themselves, that surely something else must be better or annihilation is fine to her.
It's an act of despair.
When you cant sit still for more than 5 min and use context clues to put things together....you end up wit this opinion lmao
I've never read the book, but a coworker described it to me and it didn't sound like it would translate to TV well.
it would translate extremely well to tv, as is evident by the fact that 2 shows exist that millions liked apart from.... this guy and a couple others I guess.
@@user-ly2ll5od1r millions lol 😂
@@user-ly2ll5od1rNah, just see how it gets canceled by the lack of viewers.
the books each follow mainly one character and have their thoughts at all times.
they had to turn that into dialogue to some degree.
I'm reading the book, and I wouldn't say it translates well to written text either.
It's not terrible, but it's more of a chore than it needs to be. Greg Egan has covered somewhat similar material, and if anything is even more dense, but better executed. Might be a West/East translation thing, though.
Liam Cunningham always get a pass for me because he was in Dog Soldiers...the best movie ever made
He's great in everything. One of those actors that you'll put up with a shit movie for. (Not that Dog Soldiers is shit, but you get what I mean.)
Just watched Perrier’s bounty the other day, a fun one!!!
Don't forget his recruitment skills from GOT,,
Foooook 😂
I’m long overdue a rewatch of Dog Soldiers. Thanks for the reminder 😁👍
@@dars5229Dog Soldiers is shit, though.
The scene is in the book.
Its legit.
As soon as I saw Samwell Tarley I started laughing and it took me right out of it
Is that the fat guy from moonfall?
@Njbear7453 he was also the Fat Guy in Game of Thrones lol
@@Njbear7453 Well, he plays the fat guy in every movie he is in, so yes.
@@Njbear7453 Do you know him from that random movie, but not from GOT? lol
@@kaitoren365nope never watched
FINALLY!!! Someone said it. This was sooooo boring
It’s supposed to set up the juicy parts you can’t just rush into something as complex as the three body problems. The books are the same way.
@@varonvan6336
If it takes EIGHT HOURS of screen time to set up the “juicy” parts, that is a trash show. I’m not eating slop for eight days just to have cake for one meal.
it hard science fiction what did yall want karate fight like john wick?
@@hulkmad27 Being able to fundamentally 'turn off' physics to break all known science, using entirely unexplained macguffin magic operated by a nondimentional supercomputer AI, is literally the opposite of hard sci-fi. It's less concered with scientific accuracy than a Star Wars hyperdrive, and less affiliated with logic than a special-ed class. There are full-on fantasy franchise with actual magic systems more grounded in logic and reality.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access it’s not bad I enjoyed it. It’s a good westernized adaptation from the books. I just don’t think people get the bigger concept and how cool of a story it actually is. You’ll just focus on the politics.
12:26 the sophons cant disrupt all of science just molecular science. Thereby making the results of the experiments to be random which in turn makes it impossible for that branch of science to move further
The sophons can't manipulate the brain
@@mrunderwood5270 What happens if a sophon unfolds in somebody's brain?
@@Hunpecked They still only have the mass of a single proton. So nothing.
@@Sajuek In the book a basketball-sized sophon responds to air pressure and the touch of the Princeps. A planet-sized sophon shaped into a parabolic mirror by a higher dimensional civilization nearly burns down the San-Ti capital with a sun-powered heat ray. Proton or not, these things substantially impact the macro world.
My guess is the head would explode.
@@Hunpecked I am aware.
The sophon, regardless, has the mass of a proton. It cannot "explode" anyone's head as it cannot push against anything with any amount of force. You would experience drag if you push against it, but that is only you pushing against the air. It cannot push against you as it can only create an equal and opposite reaction in line with its mass, and with the mass of a proton it does not have the strength to effect you physically.
This is actually specifically explained by the Trisolaris science consult in the very scene you are referring to. So I am not sure why you are confused.
I did love the sense of mystery the first 3 - 4 episodes had, but the moment they had the reveal in episode 5, the second half of the show was the characters hammering on the exact same point for 3 hours straight, it got boring so quickly, wish I spent my evening doing anything else.
I justwatched the first 4 episodes and i found it really boring so far idk why i keep watching🤷
I laugh at anyone who complains about modern tv. Its been absolute trash for a decade now. Same as 95% of films & music. Our society is creatively bankrupt.
It's not the society. It's hollywood and their agenda makes everything look that bad.
More than bankrupt, looks like a lobotomy
Meanwhile tokusatsu going strong. Ultraman Blazar, Kamen Rider Geats, King Ohger and Garo.
More like everyone at the top is creatively bankrupt and anyone with some kind of original idea is pushed away and never given the opportunity because the top says so.
that not true at all.
17:29: The series it not a faithful adaption. There have been made many changes making it worse. For example: 18:25: The sophons are not overpowered in the novels. They can spy and manipulate collision experiments, but not inferfere with the macroscopic world at all. They certainly can't hack electronics and don't unfold over the Earth. In fact the second book even calls both out to be stupid. 18:42: Exactly what happens in the books. The universe flickering happens in the infrared spectrum, so only a single person with special glasses sees it happen. The message "You are bugs!" is only displayed with sophons to a single room of people. No sophons unfold over Earth. The aliens don't care about impressing bugs and prefer to rather let scientists go crazy without anyone believing them.
The series tries too desperately to impress and too less to actually set up and explain. For example: 15:42: They won't as there is hibernation. But it's not even mentioned and only crammed in out of nowhere in a single scene before. 15:56: Because in the novels you do already know a lot about the aliens. Again most of it was just left out.
It looks like the author of the video don't even know, that books exist.
Thanks, I too pointed this out. The chinese show does all this so much better.
But isn't the scene where the universe flickers in the book is because the sophon unfolds and manipulates the radiation?
@@iamarugin He does he even said he doubts its a faithful adaptation, and he turns out to be right, D&D made the alien super computers brutally overpowered compared to the books
@@iamarugin Yes, Reaper doesn't know anything about the books but is ok, the idea of a show is to draw more people into the material. And the show is doing a bad job at this. The series is at best a 6/10 or a 5/10
There's like 5 plot points that you got wrong and complained that they "don't make sense"
Well, let’s hear them. Until you elaborate, we can assume you’re just another full-of-$h** zero on YT.
Can you explain?
@@dogwklr
2:08 It's explained he's the leader of some big intelligence agency (I forgot which one)
2:50 the video is claiming the violence is to get more attention a la GoT but it was in the original book
3:20 he says the SAS would be better but that's not true as explained in the show
3:28 he says he "hopes the hard drive will somehow not be destroyed" but the actual reason is that hard drives can be fixed easily, especially if they're cut precisely by the scifi wires in the show. Also hard drives won't get major damage from water, so it falling into the river is not a concern
6:06 is just flat out something that never happens in the show.
9:11 "technology that can do anything except this apparently" when fast travel is like one of the hardest engineering problems ever.
10:30 The organisation was laughably incompetent at everything in the show except for the one lady who they remain in contact with.
12:25 The supercomputers can't stop all progress, they can only do 2 things at a time, this is explained in the show.
13:00 is not at all mentioned in the show. It is a plot point in the book though, makes me think that the creator of the video just read off wikipedia...
13:30 the brain is there just to make sure the aliens don't blow up the ship before it can take a picture of the fleet
14:00 same as 13:00
Honestly 6:06 13:00 and 14:00 are so wrong that I feel like the creator of this video didn't watch the show properly
I was gripped,, so make your own mind up. Lol
Everything with Netflix Original in it, is crap.
that not true at all
You get it.
“Top 10”!!!! 💀💀💀💀
@@hulkmad27Most of it.
Blue Eye Samurai!
Just read the books guys.
Is that the one made by liu cixin?
Jokes on you, the audience of this channel can't read.
overrated
@@banhammer3904 No, they don't sound like garbage. Garbage books don't win massive awards that are exclusively reserved for prestige stories.
"generic alien invasion" is enough proof that you know jack shit about the books because there's no fucking invasion in any of the 3 books.
The books literally end with both civilizations getting destroyed by a 3rd party civilization from trillions of light years away because they are advanced to the point where "invasion" is an ancient term to them.
just watch the anime lady's .
Reaper your spot on mate I haven’t laughed so hard for a long time.Keep up the great work 👍🤣
And San ti are also bugs compared to the silicon aliens later mentioned in the book😊
i live for the "its a piece of shit" at the end of these vids 😂
Mathew perry asking "why" is my favorite clip. The edits in these video's are peak fire bro
It’s fookin classic! 😂
I love Laszlo.
@@lokay7233 Mine is Batman's grumble as he spins his head.
It is the only thing, that gives me joy in life...
I just had three out of body experiences listening to the bloody awful plot.
so you haven't actually watched it lol?
@@moe5020 I can tell the filling of a turd sandwich by the smell. I don't need to eat it to find out. lol.
Yeah it was crap, i literally only saw the CGI bit and fast forwarded all the drama(too much). And I had to Google each time I watched an important scene to know that I wasn't the only one who thought how dumb that was
Retard
I enjoyed the slow pace of the series. It reminded me of the way films used to be before too much reliance on cgi and action.
Yeah same
Its fast compared to the Chinese series. Many things were just glossed over
I’m tapping out before the end of episode 2. Quite a chore to get through that much!
The wire cutting scene is pulled directly from the book and is explained in the book as the only way to kill everyone fast enough to make sure the HDD can't be erased or destroyed while not hiring the HDD. On the book they calculate where the HDD is on the ship and how much space you need to give it clearance
So the book is dumb as fuck too. Got it.
@@technoruffles7747so a fuck is smarter than you, always knew it .
@@technoruffles7747 Maybe think about it for a second, before calling it dumb as fuck.
I do not think he's capable of that lmao @@BlackWing117
I thought this was the coolest kill scene on a ship since the movie Ghost Ship. It was epic.. I liked the show.. too many haters out there looking for a reason to be annoyed.
Have you ever read a book that isn't about wizards?
*spoiler* the aliens never arrive and the solar system is destroyed by another species, a few humans survive. Now you don't have to embarrass yourself by reviewing bad adaptations of classic books.
Why exactly are you saying this?
He mostly enjoy capeshit.
I watched the whole season and I have to agree. It was very slow and uneventful, full of gender- and race-swapped characters as usual, some added unnecessary feminist crap like the bar scene or by the insufferable latina, anti-human sentiments, a communist becoming a humanity-traitor of course, a black female UN "world leader" which has been an agenda detail they've used in 3 shows only in the last few months (Invasion, Monarch, 3 Body Problem), the only white men of the friend group died, the dumbass plan of retrieving a HD by putting it in danger of being sliced into pieces along with the entire ship... It's also such a lazy tease and a cop-out that the aliens basically said they were disguising their true form for our sake. How could they know their true form would be too frightening? And they were coming to conquer, so what's the point in disguising it for our sake anyway?
The alien-loving, injured woman who managed to CRAWL out of the building unseen with people all over was also stupid.
I can forgive some stupidity for the sake of "there wouldn't be a show otherwise" if the aliens were so smart they didn't make mistakes... It was just that when it all added up, it was not a great package. It was too boring for its own good.
Yeah man idk what you're on about this series was the best thing ive watched since mr robot. I think you just need to have a more open mind.
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MR Robot lol yeah quality entertainment
@@ganndeber1621 Mr Robot was fantastic, up there with BCS
Why is there such a lack of writing talent in entertainment today?
It’s really disturbing
Laziness?
Because the industry is impenetrable to new talent.
its an incestuous industry.
there is no real free market in who gets hired.
That's what people who can't write say
I'm sorry but why does the thumbnail looks like Shang Tsung just woken up from his sleep?
3 body problem? More like the 3 brain cells problem.
the ship part made sense in the books, as if at any sign of attack the ship owner would have destroyed all the data, but they made it into a stupid red hard drive with petabytes of storage in the movie for no reason, also the ship was not supposed to be filled with children
It was filled with children to make it SAAAD and people would yap about how horrifying that scene is while doing npc dialogues
@@HYDROCARBON_XDyou already know that only only produces entertainment for soulless poc lovers and soyboys, what did you expect? a faithful representation of the book? i'm surprised they did not replace luo ji with a sassy black trans woman, i'm sure they proposed the idea to their executives
Just watch the original Chinese version. It’s a 100% closer to the book. But best of all it’s free on UA-cam 😊
In the book she wants humanity to die
My first thought when I saw the San-Ti’s ability to control all tech was "So they are gonna use it in the next episode to cause chaos by making all electronics stop working right?" Then the next episode rolled around and I was like, "oh... so they used that over powered ability only once huh. Neat."
Sophons can only affect the micro level, not the macro level. At a macro level, everything else is used to scare people
I just thought it was dumb because the San-Ti could've set humanity back like hundreds of years (which is what they wanted to do in the first place) super easily by shutting down the use of all electronics... which they demonstrated they can do in episode 5. They didn't though... why? So the plot could happen lol. @@user-pd7sd9wl3l
@@RitikButVideosthey can’t. They only control light
@@RitikButVideosSan ti isn’t advanced enough compared to the silicones later mentioned in the book
@@RitikButVideosplease read the book. San ti don’t know how human beings work, same as humans don’t know how San ti function
The writing is absolutely, abysmally horrid.
This shit was SOOO bad. Can't get that time back... 👍
Thank you for the warning !
When you dont understand its based on a book...
he's not talking about the book
@@diegoandres2499 when you don't understand comments...
How does the fact that it's based on a book (loosely as far as I know) change anything he said?
@@nexxogen he is literally slaging off a TV shows scene, that appears in the book...
@@garrybartlett6853 And how does the fact that it appears in the books make what he's saying not true?
The 1% light speed scheme with nuke charges was f ridiculous.
I made it 35 min. Sorry for ur loss but thanks for the review
Now I don't have to waste 8 hours on this. Appreciated
lol
It''s not as bad as reaper makes out I would say a 6 out of 10
No it sucks…
GREAT THREE BODY REVIEW REAPER.
Yeah, it's worth the watch. I've read the first book, and I'm currently reading the 2nd book (The Dark Forest). @manoz6194
This show has so many plot holes, inconsistencies and scenes that are genuinely stupid; that i've lost several million brain cells just by watching it.
How? Did you watch it with your eyes closed? Plus, this is all just set up for the next 2 seasons
Twist.. 5days is right, and writing a show that has no solutions or logical endings is simply bad writing.
Tv seasons, movies with sequels, all still need to have a beginning, middle, and end, or it's just lazy, shit, writing
@seekerhooligan781 give me an example because I saw barely any plot holes, but I also know what is coming in the next season because this is all just getting set up
@@Twist_UAP Ah. "Just a setup season"... how we love them.
@Zett76 oh boy you have no idea what is coming, this could be the greatest show ever created. I loved the first season and we haven't even started.
The statement in 2:55 problem is actually answered in the book and the tencent adaptation. The problem with Netflix's adaptation is that they changed so many things that it left gaps and messed up the science that it doesn't make sense anymore. Of course they wouldn't bother cause they just want us to dumb us with sensationalist visuals and CGI.
Jesus Christ I was pulling my hair out and my missus loved it! seriously I’m re thinking my fkn life choices right now! 😮
Was she high? Sleepy? Distracted? Bad memory?
I only made it 4 episodes in. 😐
Lmao I knew Reaper will love it from the first episode😅 Pandering was off charts, that even the UN Secretary-General is a black lady when no woman in history was one.
Bruh it's a show about aliens, if you can't suspend your disbelief for that you're one sad little racist bot.
i rolled my eyes at this line of dialog:
"Did you go see the neurologist"
"yes"
"what did he say?"
"she"
"Omg I'm sorry, she"
Uhm... hate to bust your bubble, but this show isn't based in history...
@@t6c1o Most propaganda isn't
@@namenloss730 😂 that was the moment everyone knew it's a girlboss mess than a scifi gem.
I just couldn't really get past so many characters ignoring the VR headset, from the detective guy taking a ridiculously long time to link it with the string of weird suicides, to accepting that all of these intelligent people used it despite there being no device or manufacturer info on it whatsoever., and not knowing where it came from.
Its just too far outside the realm of believability.
the chinese version of this is more logical, the VR equipment and graphics more down to earth and believable.
Thank You so much Reaper, for pointing out how much of a waste of time would it have been for me to watch this shiet. Much love, Brother!
Thanks Reaper. Hours of my time not wasted. Back to Shogun.
Yea! I am loving Shogun!
Saved me 8hrs. I found the book dry also, but good
Form your own opinion
@@varonvan6336
I’m not wasting eight fucking hours of my life to have a fleeting opinion on a mid-to-garbage show. No
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Accesshow do you know it's "mid-to-garbage show" if you haven't even seen it? 95% of people who've seen it - liked it. There's no need for this revisionist history bullshit. This channel and it's audience are so pathetic jesus christ why does youtube algorithm keep deciding to push this grifter garbage on to me???
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access no one's asking you to waste the full 8 hours. But you can form an opinion on how interested you are in the concept well before the full run of the show.
The books plot is just as convoluted especially in books 2 and 3
Excellent series. Well paced and a lot of intrigue that pays off in a way that makes sense.
have u watched the tencent ver of 3 body? maybe you will like that since I prefer it than the netflix ver but you might also think that its boring since the pacing is really slow
09:00 they are on their way to earth to culturally enrich the planet lmfao
It sounds like a 2-Body Problem: Benioff & Weiss.
I stopped immediately at the bar scene. I already knew exactly what would happen before the white male even showed up
Thank you. Fucking on point.
That’s crazy
@@KingDingDong69or is it sane
@@ExpertContrarian crazy cause that was the only cringey woke scene in the show, I’m glad I got passed that, I still find the books superior to the Netflix adaptation but it wasn’t bad at all, the show peaked at episode 5 with some good build up throughout. Wasn’t boutta let politics and wokeness ruin a show for me. I just ignore shit like that in shows, but I can understand why you would drop it just off that scene, it’s hard to ignore when they shove that shit in front of our faces all the time🙄
@@KingDingDong69 pretty crazy that you think having standards is crazy. That is most definitely not the only thing anyways. It’s the entire show as you can tell by the cast. I don’t see what’s crazy about being against hateful ideology. Not to mention the nonsensical plot that I thankfully missed out on
I feel so bad for Benedict, watching Marco Polo seeing him command the scene as the great Khan larger than life, I fee like he is never again given the opportunity to own the room.
I'm watching the 30 episode Chinese version alongside the NF version and I get where you're coming from Reaper.
Nice of the aliens to give a warning not to contact them again or they'll invade, even though they need a new planet.
It was a single alien, he was a pacifist and the first to receive the signal. The book shows the repercussions of that decision on him.
@@axelg5 Daww, what a good lad. I hope his alien bros weren't too hard on him.
@@axelg5 How could a pacifist even get in a position to handle such an important assignment for an aggressive species trying to survive? Especially when they can't lie.
Actually, why would such a species even need contact with another species to go hopping to the nearest star to find another planet anyway? They'd just come regardless of whether we were here or not. We can already almost image planets that close to us, they surely have far better telescopes to know Earth was here and habitable.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 to image the planets from nearest star systems you need a telescope of size of the solar system. Which is impossible even for advanced civilization.
@@iamarugin One, that's not even remotely accurate, we already have the ability to take actual visible light pictures of extrasolar planets. The first such photo was composited in 2004, and it was taken from ground-based telescopes, not even orbital ones. This is not magic, it just takes accurate adjustments of telescopes and time.
Secondly, the Trisolarians can literally build 11th dimensional computers that can unfold from the size of a proton to become 2 dimensional constructs that can wrap around the entire planet. They can make a mirror of any size they want.
Not that they'd need to, there's many ways to image a world besides visible light. They could easily determine at the Earth exists and has life on it, long before they got anywhere near their current tech level. We can already basically do this, so they certainly could.
they don't do the countdown are shown in photograph? countdown in their retina are applied to the photograph they take as the light reflected to the retina and reflected back into the camera and then to the photo?
Reaper, can you share what tool you use to pull clips with audio of these movies and shows?
I dont think the show is as boring or bad you describe it, def worth a watch since its just a few episodes. I think if its too boring you can just skip watching it and that should be the end of it, instead of watching the whole show and analyzing every detail and making a 20 mins rant about why its sucks. Your channel will go nowhere shitting on random shows.
2:55 I read the first book and this scene is not stupid and actually the only solution to extract the hard drive. If you infiltrated the boat with the SAS the moment that someone realised they would delete all the hard drive files in a matter of seconds. The thing about the nano material is that it cuts so thin that even if the the hard drive was cut it would still be repairable. The only thing they did wrong in the show is lacking a bit of explanation.
The moment mtfks start seeing ppl getting split, they can still delete the info...same logic bubba
@@rekanpayne6606 nah, Ithink the trap worked a lot faster than an ops team raiding the ship. Still Price's character did get to the hard drive and should of destroyed it if he wasn't in a panic.
You would still have the problem of the drive being on fire or sunk in water.
It's true, its another women perfect, men weak series, which looks visually great, but the story is just full of plot holes and unexplainable solutions to the problems it confronts.
2 episodes in and I had to just come and watch a youtube video lmao I was like not going to waste 8 hours on this. Makes sense that this is so dumb considering the writers.
I came across the 3 body problem in the UA-cam channel called Quinn's Ideas. There is is amazing the way he has broken the whole book down to. This adaptation is an abomination.
Yet Quinn sells us out sayin this is great. I think he's after interviews and inside production info, a proper sell out haha
Quinn is the only reason I was interested in the show.
people cant have opinions? love Quinn until you dont agree with him. I love these books and I loved this season. @@j3fr0uk
@j3fr0uk I agree 💯 %. I guess he is looking for that payday and blowing up as a channel. But the show was garbage. I could not watch it for more than 5 minutes.
@@playgroundchooser Me too. I had never heard of the book before Quinn. The video series is awesome 👌🏻
Thank you for this! I sat through this at the behest of my wife, and was astonished at how stupid it was. It made me lose my faith in contemporary Chinese sci-fi, to be honest
Chinese people are stupid, what else is new
Why would you have faith in it in the first place. China the gold standard of modern free thinking literature
If the aliens are so advanced why didn't they solve the problem or make their multidimensional proton (that can alter reality) protect them from the chaotic Era??
mm .. they're not god thats why, ...
They're technologically advanced only up to a point ... you just have to accept that as the premise of the story.
Its a fictional story, its up to the writer to put a limit on how advanced an alien species is, not being more advanced is not a "loophole", its just a creative choice imposed for dramatisation ...
because then there would be no plot or conflict you freaking goof. The whole story is made up. "why don't the aliens just stop the entire plot from happening and remove the entire purpose of the show?" Do you really need an answer to that? No one wants to watch a show about aliens that are so advanced that they have no problems at all. That sounds BORING.