Avenging Varus - Battle of Idistaviso (16 AD) DOCUMENTARY

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  • Germanicus and Arminius are on a collision course for the largest clash of the Germanic Wars, the Battle of Idistaviso in 16 AD. Claim your SPECIAL OFFER for MagellanTV here: try.magellantv.... Start your free trial TODAY so you can watch "Germany From Above" about the incredible landscape of Germania, and the rest of MagellanTV’s documentary collection: www.magellantv...
    This history documentary is a continuation of our Avenging Varus series.
    It is the winter of 15 AD and the Roman Germanic war drags on. Both sides have been bloodied this past year with the Roman army in particular suffering huge casualties at the Battle of the Long Bridges and in the storms of the North Sea. The battered legions barely make it back to the Rhine, unsure of whether or not they can even continue this Pyrrhic war. However fresh waves of troops and supplies from the Empire renew their spirits and plans are now made for fresh campaigns in 16 AD. Germanicus now masses an enormous Roman army. It will invade the lands of Germania in two thrusts which feature 1,000 ships and over 50,000 soldiers.
    Meanwhile Arminius and the Germanic tribes prepare to weather the storm. They summon their forces on the eastern side of the Weser, prepared to gamble all in one last pitched battle. The Battle of Idistavisus!
    Bibliography and Suggested Reading:
    "Campaigns of Germanicus, 13-16 AD" by Ilkka Syvänne
    "The Annals" by Cornelius Tacitus
    "Roman Soldier Vs Germanic Warrior: 1st Century AD" by Osprey Publishing
    "In the Name of Rome" by Adrian Goldsworthy
    Research: Chris Das Neves and Eric Tenwolde
    Writing: Chris Das Neves
    Narration: Invicta
    Production: Penta Limited
    #Rome
    #History
    #Documentary

КОМЕНТАРІ • 969

  • @johnathanadams6378
    @johnathanadams6378 3 роки тому +1249

    The Avenging Varus series has been fantastic!

    • @amalali4844
      @amalali4844 3 роки тому +34

      Bro I’ve been waiting for so long. Definitely my favorite videos.

    • @_TheDragonReborn_
      @_TheDragonReborn_ 3 роки тому +7

      Same here so excited for this episode

    • @Zoey--
      @Zoey-- 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed its the series I've always needed.

    • @dadequalcustody8350
      @dadequalcustody8350 3 роки тому +4

      What’s next after this one?

    • @marcquestenberg8385
      @marcquestenberg8385 3 роки тому +7

      A Netflix or HBO series about the germanic wars would be great ;)

  • @EchoLeague2
    @EchoLeague2 Рік тому +50

    Roman logistics , and ability to resupply, engineer , and move their forces so cohesively is seriously insanely impressive. What an absolute force for those times.

  • @danielbaker2635
    @danielbaker2635 3 роки тому +1004

    Bro those Roman soldiers know damn well they were talking to Germanicus 😭😂🤣 “yeah we love germanicus he’s totally the best”

    • @_Slog_
      @_Slog_ 3 роки тому +265

      It didn't help that his disguise was just Germanicus with a mustache.

    • @jeromevillaflor3896
      @jeromevillaflor3896 3 роки тому +137

      The Roman Clark Kent lmao

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 3 роки тому +30

      @@_Slog_ Mario Germanicus

    • @nomnom7608
      @nomnom7608 3 роки тому +7

      @@jonbaxter2254 lmao

    • @vanjapfc1
      @vanjapfc1 3 роки тому +7

      @@jonbaxter2254 No Luigi Germanicus

  • @Prayingfrog
    @Prayingfrog 3 роки тому +983

    I can only imagine how absolutely terrifying the site of 4 fully armed roman legions charging down a hill at you would be

    • @Trapsarentgay133
      @Trapsarentgay133 3 роки тому +64

      I’m imagining a lot of fear and a little bit of excitement

    • @nightrunner3701
      @nightrunner3701 3 роки тому +50

      Run Boy! RUN!!!!!

    • @junior1497
      @junior1497 3 роки тому +96

      *pissed off fully armed Roman legions

    • @drakbar5482
      @drakbar5482 3 роки тому +40

      you mean 8...

    • @Outlaw8908
      @Outlaw8908 3 роки тому +36

      More like 8… and a sight you would not want to be on the other side of.

  • @TheThingInMySink
    @TheThingInMySink 3 роки тому +424

    ''Germanicus, do you mind telling me what you're doing in Germania?''
    ''Sir, finishing this fight''

    • @fireworksfactoryshow
      @fireworksfactoryshow 3 роки тому +59

      "Permission to leave Roman territory."
      "For what purpose, Germanicus?"
      "To give the barbarians back their arms."
      "Permission granted."

    • @reuarlb4941
      @reuarlb4941 3 роки тому +14

      "Sir. Drinkie my slurpie"

    • @frankgesuele6298
      @frankgesuele6298 3 роки тому +13

      "My name should be a clue."

    • @bryansngsheekai8187
      @bryansngsheekai8187 2 роки тому +2

      Pffttt 343 likes!

  • @mathy1799
    @mathy1799 3 роки тому +341

    The batavi were good horsemen and excilent soldier material overal. But they were famous for their ability to cross rivers without losing formation while wearing armour. This made them so popular as auxilia that it is said that they formed 4% of the auxilia of the empire while they comprised only 0.05% of its population.

    • @philmccracken7520
      @philmccracken7520 3 роки тому +19

      they also made up a large part of roman marines and navy ! only irish made up more % of roman navy and marines !

    • @aldosigmann419
      @aldosigmann419 3 роки тому +15

      They along with some of my Frisian ancestors also made up the Batavian Guard for the Emperor himself...

    • @cpp3221
      @cpp3221 3 роки тому +8

      @@philmccracken7520 Irish ? But Rome never conquered ireland.
      Could you please tell me more ? You sir have awake my curiosity.

    • @jacopofolin6400
      @jacopofolin6400 3 роки тому +6

      @@philmccracken7520 but the irish were not conquered by the romans

    • @APineTree
      @APineTree 3 роки тому +4

      @@jacopofolin6400 could have been mercenaries or something from when Rome occupied England?

  • @Sealdeam
    @Sealdeam 3 роки тому +418

    That part about the war trophy was pretty metal; Germanicus is one of those men in history that must had fueled the imagination of many through the centuries, a lot of What Ifs about what could had been had he became emperor, I also wonder the same about Crispus the first son of Constantine, he also seemed to be a most capable caesar but for obscure reasons was executed and then his seemly inferior younger brothers took the throne after spilling the blood of a lot of their kinsmen and once again plunging the empire in a new series of civil wars.

    • @joegrst
      @joegrst 3 роки тому +19

      I'm still barely learning about Rome. So much interesting content. I want to learn about the rest of Western Asia, Asia, and Europe, but there's so much to cover with Rome alone. I'm currently reading SPQR by Mary Beard. I want to eventually move to learning about Macedonia and Phillip II & Alexander / Post-Alexander and I still know nothing about Napoleon.

    • @stevenholmes4322
      @stevenholmes4322 3 роки тому +5

      longest. sentence. ever.

    • @joegrst
      @joegrst 3 роки тому +12

      @@stevenholmes4322 there was plenty of punctuation.

    • @paulpeterson4216
      @paulpeterson4216 3 роки тому +12

      To your point, this would be the inspiration for Henry V going through his camp before Agincourt to sound out his men. Whether it was the King's idea or the Bard's we may not know.

    • @joegrst
      @joegrst 3 роки тому +1

      @@stefstokman3593 yo! Thanks

  • @magivkmeister6166
    @magivkmeister6166 3 роки тому +399

    Finally! Been waiting for this a long time, The Empire Strikes Back!

    • @bohellan6227
      @bohellan6227 3 роки тому +12

      Perfect!

    • @sfp2290
      @sfp2290 3 роки тому +3

      A fitting description. They are just as evil :p

    • @riccardocirielli
      @riccardocirielli 3 роки тому +12

      @@sfp2290 boo hoo

    • @stretch654
      @stretch654 3 роки тому +1

      Yes indeed, but who I wonder is playing 'Luke' and 'Darth Vader'?

    • @TaRAAASHBAGS
      @TaRAAASHBAGS Рік тому +1

      @@riccardocirielli Germanoids seething. The closest they ever got to Roman supremacy was LARPing as Romans, and even then didn't come close.

  • @rc59191
    @rc59191 3 роки тому +328

    I been looking forward to this ever since that Barbarian show came out lol.

    • @NautilusSSN571
      @NautilusSSN571 3 роки тому +27

      Will there be a season 2 when they all get slaughtered?

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 3 роки тому +39

      @@NautilusSSN571 ya I think it was confirmed shortly after it ended. There's even a scene where Arminius sees a wolf and you can tell he's worried because he knows what that signifies.

    • @NautilusSSN571
      @NautilusSSN571 3 роки тому +32

      @@rc59191 Good, that's what I wanted to see.

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому +9

      I want to know what they will do of Arminius' brother, he is very important to the topic, but wasn't shown in the series...

    • @piranhaattack4836
      @piranhaattack4836 3 роки тому

      What’s the show called

  • @TheEscrivao
    @TheEscrivao 3 роки тому +103

    Imagine Netflix adapting Invicta’s Avenging Varus into Barbarians series. Mind blowing.

    • @timend
      @timend 3 роки тому +21

      The way the Series ended slightly suggested for a continuity and a second season, so we can only hope we will get one.

    • @datsunlambchops4624
      @datsunlambchops4624 3 роки тому +13

      Netflix would have to subvert the truth to make it woke. Germanicus would have to be a nubian women. Etc.

    • @frantisekhajek6775
      @frantisekhajek6775 3 роки тому +5

      @@datsunlambchops4624 They didn't done this to Barbarian European filmakers are not that woke.

    • @ignacio1171
      @ignacio1171 3 роки тому +1

      @@datsunlambchops4624 shut up

    • @datsunlambchops4624
      @datsunlambchops4624 3 роки тому +5

      @@ignacio1171 smart guy. 👌 you should read a book or 10 about subversion and propaganda.

  • @youvebeengreeked
    @youvebeengreeked 3 роки тому +103

    Malthius: *unbiased* Alexander the Great pt 2
    Kings and Generals: Klokotnitsa, 1230 AD
    Epic History TV: Dara, 532 AD
    Hoc Est Bellum: Plataea, 479 BC
    Invicta: Idistaviso, 16 AD
    Today was a great day. 🥰

    • @bodicwow
      @bodicwow 3 роки тому +7

      Today was something else indeed

    • @mizuha-chan4145
      @mizuha-chan4145 3 роки тому +8

      My man watches Greek dovahhatty based

  • @dcchillin4687
    @dcchillin4687 3 роки тому +83

    "Doomstack" as a total war player I love hearing it in a history video 😅

    • @oldfrend
      @oldfrend 3 роки тому +5

      only two doomstacks? pffft weak economy

    • @thelagginggamer1309
      @thelagginggamer1309 3 роки тому +3

      You call 20k income weak but I call em stingy and cocky

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 3 роки тому +170

    Wow, I thought I was pretty knowledgeable about Roman history, and I never heard of this battle. Well another reason why I love this channel.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 3 роки тому +16

      I always thought they stayed out of Germany due to fear, but they penetrated deep into those lands after Tuetoberg

    • @Outlaw8908
      @Outlaw8908 3 роки тому +7

      I had heard about it. The next one is going to be good.

    • @bboyValentis
      @bboyValentis 3 роки тому +8

      This sounded more like a slaughter than a battle

    • @blockmasterscott
      @blockmasterscott 3 роки тому +7

      @@jonbaxter2254 That's what I thought too!

    • @jonoc3729
      @jonoc3729 3 роки тому +12

      @@blockmasterscott Its a pretty common misconception. That they stayed out after Teutoburg. No, this is the roman empire we are talking about, such insult couldnt go with impunity. And with a capable commander such as Germanicus, they destroyed the lands of the tribes involved. But the cost of maintaining a province east of the Rhine far outweighted its benefits, and was very risky due to the fierceness of the germanic tribes.

  • @jimbojet8728
    @jimbojet8728 3 роки тому +67

    An amazing story. Those Romans were a helluva bunch of fellas. Travelling so far from home on foot, as they did. Their history lives on in these factual stories, thank you for staring them with us.

  • @RockyX123
    @RockyX123 3 роки тому +89

    >Too large to move as a single doom stack
    Some1's been playing too much total war again ☺

  • @Pepperpotk
    @Pepperpotk 3 роки тому +97

    The narration has been fantastic in this series!

    • @kingspore5000
      @kingspore5000 3 роки тому +1

      Disagreed. Too much germanic propaganda

  • @KomradeCPU
    @KomradeCPU 3 роки тому +223

    damn, I didn't know very well this part of history, they really did avenge Teutoberg with the full might of the Roman army, that tree was something else though, what a morbid sense of humor; also, it's incredible how Arminius held for so long and caused so much trouble.

    • @gregraines1599
      @gregraines1599 3 роки тому +22

      Yeah, I’d like to know more about that tree.

    • @321AlterSchwede
      @321AlterSchwede 3 роки тому +20

      The first Battle of the war the Battle of Teutoburg forest was won by the germans, which gave them enough hope to stay motivated after several defeats at Idistaviso and Battle at the Angriivarii Walls.

    • @GAndreC
      @GAndreC 3 роки тому +33

      Well the was done to the tree as the barbarians considered trees to be linked to spirits/gods of the forests and since they ate, hanged and bleached the bones of those that fell at Teutoborg. And with that Rome was linking the deafeat of the barbarians to the gods of the barbarians.

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому +31

      Imagine the sight
      An uprooted oak, alone in a burned clearing, half buried again into the earth. It is completely covered in weapons, armor, shields, standards, all of them torn from the bodies of the dead and nailed to it.
      You get closer
      The names of all the tribes that rose against Rome are written on it. None could escape it's vengeance, all their weapons lay rusty and abandoned, those who wielded them, long dead.
      What a powerful message

    • @davidcervantes9336
      @davidcervantes9336 3 роки тому +6

      @Golf Uckerself Nah, he was not a traitor. He was taken as a hostage by Rome.

  • @jamesstramer5186
    @jamesstramer5186 3 роки тому +30

    This was very well made. One of the most high quality historical documentaries seen on UA-cam!

  • @Kaikuma181
    @Kaikuma181 3 роки тому +249

    Fighting a pitched battle when outnumbered without traps or hidden troops seems very out of character for the wily Arminius. Is there any background on why they thought they could suddenly take the Romans in a frontal engagement?

    • @Historiale2895
      @Historiale2895 3 роки тому +26

      Yeah I'm thinking about that too 🤔

    • @limes5295
      @limes5295 3 роки тому +141

      He may have overestimated how much damage they took in the first engagement. The Romans had a very good system to collect Intel but Arminius was probably working off rumours.

    • @_sky_3123
      @_sky_3123 3 роки тому +43

      Yeah, I am interested in that too. I can understand they they were maybe running out of supplies. So they might have needed quick victory. But still.

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 3 роки тому +120

      Arminius planned a sneak attack on the camp to soften and disorganize the Romans. The spot didn't have many exits, which was how he planned to trap and slaughter the Romans
      But Getmanicus snuffed it out. Arminius found a Roman army already deployed and ready... and instead, that place with few exits became a couldren of slaughter for the Germans instead. As they were now forced to fight face to face.

    • @GAndreC
      @GAndreC 3 роки тому +60

      Yep the intent was to catch them encamped and unprepared and give them a good trashing not a pitched battle but he found them in position and arranged for a battle and as he knew he could not pull of a organized retreat battle ensued

  • @arandomwalk
    @arandomwalk 3 роки тому +59

    And the list continues, History Marche, Epic History Tv, K&G, hoc est bellum and now Invicta. Christmas came in early this time!

  • @thomashartman7649
    @thomashartman7649 3 роки тому +40

    Invicta! I look forward to each upload. Another top quality entry!

  • @mattmckane9454
    @mattmckane9454 3 роки тому +38

    So who else thought Invicta forgot about this series

  • @lief3414
    @lief3414 3 роки тому +159

    Me at 17:35 , hearing that roman legions for once significantly outnumber the barbarians: "So, Arminius, do you realise how f*cked you are?"

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver 3 роки тому +48

      15:50 Not nearly as much as his women.

    • @nightrunner3701
      @nightrunner3701 3 роки тому +14

      @@Marinealver thats a DANK comment there bro. 👌🤣😂🤣👌

    • @saulnine7786
      @saulnine7786 3 роки тому +1

      @@Marinealver Not as much as Roman women in 410 and 455 and 476.

    • @wxj5640
      @wxj5640 3 роки тому

      what is that reference?

  • @amalali4844
    @amalali4844 3 роки тому +182

    I wonder how Julius Caesar would have dealt with Arminius if he was still around?

    • @JjackVideo
      @JjackVideo 3 роки тому +163

      He would have build something for sure :D

    • @Sandouras
      @Sandouras 3 роки тому +143

      He would have built a wall around him.

    • @SonKunSama
      @SonKunSama 3 роки тому +71

      He would have fortified his position, classical Caesar

    • @Aristocles22
      @Aristocles22 3 роки тому +75

      Built a wall. Sent a messenger to the nearest Roman armies or allies, waited it out until reinforcements arrived, then won the battle.

    • @baha3alshamari152
      @baha3alshamari152 3 роки тому +47

      Arminius won in the beginning because he was trusted by Varus

  • @Develpup
    @Develpup 3 роки тому +97

    This is incredible! I really want the next part released soon. How long since the last part to this was released?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 роки тому +75

      We will be trying to get the next one out in a timely manner. Likely in the next few weeks

    • @Develpup
      @Develpup 3 роки тому +14

      @@InvictaHistory you're the best! Thanks!

    • @lemurgulliver8249
      @lemurgulliver8249 3 роки тому

      The gods have giv'n other cause to moan.
      For look how many _optimates_ remain
      In Samos, or the shores Dulichian,
      Shady Zacynthus, or how many bear
      Rule in the rough brows of this island here:
      So many now my mother and this house
      At all parts make defamed and ruinous;
      *And she her hateful nuptials nor denies*
      Nor will dispatch their importunities,
      Though she beholds them spoil still as they feast
      All my free house yields, and the little rest
      Of my dead sire in me perhaps intend
      To bring ere long to some untimely end.'-Odyssey, George Chapman, 1:380-392

    • @Develpup
      @Develpup 3 роки тому

      @@lemurgulliver8249 what

    • @lemurgulliver8249
      @lemurgulliver8249 3 роки тому

      @@Develpup The optimates were an ancient gladiator team. The Emporor Marcus Auraleus specifically had to specifically avoid these guys to get anything done.

  • @gabriellabrador6316
    @gabriellabrador6316 3 роки тому +65

    Jesús, the Romans didn't have to go THAT hard, they just didn't avenge Varus; they smashed the enemy to splinters and made it a clear display so no one would doubt the inexhaustible might of the Roman war machine.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon 3 роки тому +3

      Well - they still never conquered much of the territory and established one of the most heavily defended borders of their empire to protect themselves. The thing about the regions east of the Rhine was that the Romans usually faced off against fairly small coalitions in comparison to the overall landmass.
      Basically; the argument goes that while Rome avenged its legions, it is quite evident that her enemy was not beaten, just pushed back.
      Arminius is certainly a symbolic rival for many of the tribal leaders that unified to face off against the invaders but he is also just one of many enemies Rome faced off against over the centuries.

    • @kogerugaming
      @kogerugaming 2 роки тому +6

      "the Romans didn't have to go THAT hard" Their gladius could argue with that.

    • @christiandocchio5596
      @christiandocchio5596 Рік тому +3

      @@Arcaryon They had no reason to conquer them. Still, they crossed the rhine everytime they wanted (like with the emperor Maximine the trace) & they even forced recruitments in those lands everytime they wanted, showing they owned those places. So, Roman Empire just chose to rule german tribes without to spend money & time to build a fixed colony there. For 400 years after this battle they had no problems thought, only when the roman empire collapsed in itself the barbarians from everywhere were able to invade it.

    • @Arcaryon
      @Arcaryon Рік тому

      @@christiandocchio5596 "They had no reason to conquer them." Varus had lost THREE Legions and that was already considered to be a devastating cost. Germanicus needed EIGHT legions and THREE separate campaigns just to break Armenius alliances. To argue that they had no reason is therefore false - they literally stationed multiple legions at this border along the rhine.
      The idea that "controlling some parts of the border region = they chose to not rule directly" is also so far stretched that I don't think we seriously have to entertain it any further.
      The Romans had some influence but again, they also maintained gigantic armies in the area to control the local borders for 400 years - which is not exactly "ruling from afar" it's "we have no other choice but to literally station tens of thousands of soldiers there since once we stop, all hell breaks loose."
      People give Rome both too much and too little credit. Yes, they were influential, no, their influence was not nearly as large as people think but still substantial.
      Not to mention that the local troops founded entire border _cities_ .
      To argue that the Roman forces didn't create colonies therefore doesn't make sense - Cologne for example, which:
      "(Cologne) was founded and established in Germanic Ubii territory in the 1st century CE as the Roman Colonia Agrippina, hence its name." .
      There also was no formal "deditio" and Armenius made the claim to have resisted Rome until his death and we don't even know how successful Germanicus really was because we mainly have Roman sources.
      This guy on Quora ( Carl Richard Archie ) summed it up pretty well when replying to the question "What if Germanicus had completed the conquest of Germania?"
      "In general he did…sort of. However, he conquered mostly nothing. As he advanced, the Germans mostly moved out of the way and only showed up to fight on a few occasions. I believe most of these grand battles were mere skirmishes intended to justify the enormous expense and effort, to get revenge for the destruction of three legions.
      The Romans sugar coated the hell out Germanicus’ campaigns. In truth, it was wasted effort before Germanicus, wasted effort during Germanicus and wasted effort after Germanicus.( ... ) . Underneath Tacitus’ sugar coat, Tacitus relates of a series inconclusive campaigns, which includes a naval catastrophe. Germanicus was ordered to declare victory and come home."
      The Germanic tribes resited a conquest and Rome got a propaganda victory. Everyone was happy and little had changed - hence 400 years of legions being stationed at the border and minimal Germanic raids - there was little movement on this part of the empire because neither the Germanic tribes nor the Romans saw the need for war. The tribes were content as long as they were left alone and the Romans as long as they didn't have to fend of any invasions.

    • @davidtamayo4116
      @davidtamayo4116 3 місяці тому

      @@Arcaryon The Romans still crossed into Germany from time to time to punish hostile tribes. For example, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_at_the_Harzhorn

  • @rubenheymans1988
    @rubenheymans1988 3 роки тому +14

    I'm again stunned by the quality and detail, thanks again for this awesome video

  • @fourlamb1
    @fourlamb1 3 роки тому +16

    Could you really imagine 100,000 men fighting on a field with swords and spears and bows. It is something incomprehensible to me.

    • @4thamendment237
      @4thamendment237 3 роки тому +3

      It's hard to imagine. Flat out life and death fighting for hours. And you can't let up because as soon as you do the enemy will sense that and press in even more, taking advantage of your slackening. Bloodbath.

    • @fourlamb1
      @fourlamb1 3 роки тому +1

      @@4thamendment237
      Crazy mate isn't it, really is crazy!

    • @fourlamb1
      @fourlamb1 3 роки тому

      @no step on snek!
      I've read up on some of them, but when you have so many people. Like when the Mongols invaded, a standing army of 800k men, I know a lot were garrison troops, but still that's crazy.

  • @veratikon7882
    @veratikon7882 3 роки тому +6

    Gotta respect the amount of work behind this.

  • @jeromevillaflor3896
    @jeromevillaflor3896 3 роки тому +21

    I was just literally watching Kings and Generals coverage of this and was thinking to myself, " I wonder when would Invicta upload a new Avenging Varus episode", I checked my subscriptions, and here it is.

  •  3 роки тому +14

    I come from the german city of Emden at the mouth of the river Ems. Hearing about a massiv roman army having passed through there once is really interersting :)

    • @gregwicker856
      @gregwicker856 2 роки тому +1

      Raised up in a military family and seeing Roman ruins as a child, I'm loving this

  • @thoriniioakenshield
    @thoriniioakenshield 3 роки тому +110

    Romans: "Iam mortuus es!"
    Barbarians: "Was?!"

    • @NathanDudani
      @NathanDudani 3 роки тому +3

      Lol

    • @anneonymous4884
      @anneonymous4884 3 роки тому +4

      Nitpick here: the 2nd Germanic consonant shift hadn't happened yet, they would have said something more like "what"

    • @thoriniioakenshield
      @thoriniioakenshield 3 роки тому +3

      @@anneonymous4884 Yeah, I admit that the translation is modern German.

    • @anneonymous4884
      @anneonymous4884 3 роки тому +1

      @@thoriniioakenshield yeah and I know why you wrote it that way.

    • @nazarenoorefice2104
      @nazarenoorefice2104 3 роки тому

      This was historically an insignificant battle. Althought many soldiers were involved in.It was more about pride than about a long term strategy.The risk reward of an expedition in northern england or nothern Germany was insane. We know from Tacitus and other sources that roman soldiers did not like to fight in northern countries.They had to walk one month trought forests cold and rain moors unpaved kind of roads to get to a place where barbarians lived.And they despised them.And walk another month back home .And all without Pizza Spaghetti Mozzarella.So the Rhein river was the Adrian wall of continental Europe.Instead , going to Rome for the barbarians was like going to the Caribbean for a New Yorker.We have uncountable descents of northern Populations toward south and the risk reward for the trip was more interesting.Althout playing home for the romans was easier against unorganised barbarians.But it was not easy against sensational people like Hannibal.

  • @stuartbh8165
    @stuartbh8165 3 роки тому +4

    every episode of this avenging varus series just gets me more excited for the next season of barbarians. There is so much good material for a tv show here!

    • @adanzavala4801
      @adanzavala4801 3 роки тому

      Holy shit, what? There's going to be a second season?!

    • @stuartbh8165
      @stuartbh8165 3 роки тому

      @@adanzavala4801 Yep! I don't think theres a release date yet but netflix renewed for a second season almost immediately after the first.

  • @wrathofkorven
    @wrathofkorven 3 роки тому +6

    My dude, I'm so happy to see this upload! Your content is exquisite and this series has been gold. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @mafiousbj
    @mafiousbj 3 роки тому +5

    6:33 that purple ship with red sails looks badass!

  • @norad1
    @norad1 3 роки тому +7

    Dude! so glad to see this pop up on my feed. Great series, and can't wait to see how it ends.

  • @Brandazzo22
    @Brandazzo22 3 роки тому +8

    A great video Invicta. You have not let us down over the years we've been watching your channel! Your ethics when telling history is profound and I wish the arm chair historian would take note. Now, let's see a video of the Rise of Scipio Africanus (post-Cannae).

  • @jacobcantrell82
    @jacobcantrell82 3 роки тому +106

    Arminius brother, Flavus, was so loyal to Rome that he named his son Italicus as a flex on his traitor brother.

    • @moritztabor1678
      @moritztabor1678 3 роки тому +3

      Nice

    • @alejandrosakai1744
      @alejandrosakai1744 3 роки тому +2

      I'm sure that He will be a great villain!!!

    • @hattorihaso2579
      @hattorihaso2579 3 роки тому +6

      @@alejandrosakai1744 hero

    • @GAndreC
      @GAndreC 3 роки тому +1

      Replace Rome with cabal of senators that live at the expense of Rome and are those commendations really that valuable?
      That became the question latter on and the more blatant the senatorial corruption or the incapability of the emperor the greater the need for change.
      That’s what gave rise to the empire and later on forced the military to fix the political situation to deal with ad hoc problems in the first place.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +1

      That later became the king of the Cherusci, when the pro-Roman faction got rid of Arminius.

  • @dottormetile777
    @dottormetile777 3 роки тому +60

    Arminius:* we destroyed the roman army*
    Tiberius:*smiling grimly* * rome's ranks are endless*

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 3 роки тому +10

      3 legions was less than 1/5th of a full army.
      Hannibal slaughtered 16 legions at just Cannae alone. The Cimbri also slaughtered 16 legions in a single sitting.
      Rome often lost more than 3 legions in battles.
      The Gauls performed the exact same ambush and slaughtered a larger number of legions in almost the exact same way.
      The Romans lost 3 legions worth of men every other Teusday.
      A measly 3 legions was nothing. For some reason this relatively insignificant event gets overhyped a lot. 🤷🏻‍♂️
      I'm pretty sure this was the work of Germanicus. His best skill was overhyping his own accomplishments.

    • @dottormetile777
      @dottormetile777 3 роки тому +5

      @@tylerdurden3722 my friend, mine is what it's called "joke", and a quote from witcher 2

    • @jgw9990
      @jgw9990 3 роки тому +4

      @@tylerdurden3722 3 legions is c35k men right? That's a pretty significant loss. Obviously not fatal for Rome but still unpleasant. I think the nuance is that it happened after the Gaul war and the roman civil war -both of which also had high casualties. So the dead were stacked up in a short period.

    • @dottormetile777
      @dottormetile777 3 роки тому +3

      Talking seriously, rome under augustus had 28 legions, 168k legionaries, losing 3, 18k, 30k under some account, added the retinues and auxiliaries, was a loss of ~11% of the best roman units available, that due to the lack of conscription, high time necessary to train from scrap and money necessary was a significant blow, wich for some time compromised roman ability to conduct annexing operations

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 3 роки тому +1

      @@dottormetile777 Under Augustus, retired veterans had to serve a compulsory duration as reservists. This reserve of the most hardened veterans could be called upon during times of emergency. Under Augustus there were a scary amount of these retired veterans.
      Hannibal killed 200 000 and captured 50 000. Slain enough senators, officers and two consuls to fill a bag with their rings. Caused several Italian allies to defect.
      I wonder what percentage of active manpower that constituted?
      Legions 18 and 19 had been wiped out before in North Africa (with the captured also massacred)...and both eagle standards lost. The eagle standards were recovered and both Legions were rebuilt. Which was kinda normal...nothing to write home about.
      Later these exact same legions got completely destroyed again in the Teutonberg Forrest. Roman soldiers were very superstitious and considered these numbers cursed. So different numbers were used (including the 17th legion this time) to prevent soldiers from being demoralized by a "cursed numbers" .
      So the legions were easily rebuilt, just with different numbers. At least one of these rebuilt legions even accompanied Germanicus. No problem.
      One of the reasons the Legions mutineed was because Tiberius didn't want to expand the empire. Soldiers didn't want to sit in camps. Germanicus wanted to expand into Germania so the soldiers wanted Germanicus to become Emperor, while Tiberius didn't want expansion into Germania.
      So, the soldiers mutineed partly because Tiberius wouldn't let the army do its thing in Germania.
      Those 3 legions were rebuilt (just with different numbers), no problem whatsoever. Though freshly recuited, by the time of the campaign they were capable enough to partake in Germanicus' war, no problems whatsoever.
      The whole Teutonberg Forrest was grossly overhyped by Germanicus' PR efforts and later by German nationalists.

  • @darthdenco
    @darthdenco 3 роки тому +3

    What a fantastic series, I hope we wont have to wait as long as last time before the next episode is released.

  • @mattwinthewoods
    @mattwinthewoods 3 роки тому +3

    Much Love from Minnesota. You guys are a must watch when I see a new video. Bravo!

  • @stephensmith6417
    @stephensmith6417 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video brought back memories of reading tactitus many years ago

  • @roomonleft
    @roomonleft 3 роки тому +3

    such an epic narration and presentation
    Thank you
    Will be waiting for the next one!

  • @PosyLubelak
    @PosyLubelak 3 роки тому +6

    Yes yes yes thank you ! I love the series incredible!

  • @andrewlambert7246
    @andrewlambert7246 3 роки тому +4

    My father allways said that when thinking about revenge then: dig a grave for your enemy and then dig a grave for the revenger. I dont what to think about it. Revenge is important so that the otherside learns not to do mischief again.

  • @carelesswhisper6561
    @carelesswhisper6561 3 роки тому +1

    The intro was the best one yet, I feel like the channel is maturing as time goes, become even more eloquent and refined

  • @gildardorivasvalles6368
    @gildardorivasvalles6368 3 роки тому +7

    Oh, dude, come on, you're leaving us on another cliff-hanger...
    Once you're done with the whole series of Avenging Varus, I will have to view again all the episodes in one sitting. I'm loving the series so far, but the wait for the next installment is the hardest part of watching it.

  • @stretch654
    @stretch654 3 роки тому

    I didn't think I'd be interested in these videos, but I'm really hooked now. Roman history is so bloody. It's so hard to keep an empire together.

  • @pedrocsantos8
    @pedrocsantos8 3 роки тому +4

    Avenginng Varus Series is realy great, Congrats!

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop 3 роки тому +1

    It's truly astonishing how much detailed information about these battles we have! It's almost as if they were fought 20 years ago, not 2,000!

  • @krevin543
    @krevin543 3 роки тому +3

    This series is my favorite your channel has produced!

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @nicolasdolenc1404
    @nicolasdolenc1404 3 роки тому +5

    Wow so many documentaries today! Awesome!

  • @LiveinReykjavik
    @LiveinReykjavik 3 роки тому +1

    Avenging Varus, definitely becoming a favorite series from your channel.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 3 роки тому +7

    Flous and Armenius.
    That is one hell of a movie.
    Imperial beliefs is that there is only two sides: The Empire, and the other.
    Federal beliefs is that there is only two sides: The Federation, and the other.

  • @theironknight597
    @theironknight597 3 роки тому +1

    The most anticipated series ever!!!

  • @bunnyg404
    @bunnyg404 3 роки тому +5

    Man, i was literally waiting for this episode for months, thank you for continuing this series its one of the best!

  • @ghassenmez7810
    @ghassenmez7810 3 роки тому +1

    I've been waiting for this for ages, Great job, this series is great

  • @Old_Harry7
    @Old_Harry7 3 роки тому +3

    Can we also appreciate the dedication Romans had when recording history? If it was for the germans we would have had zero sources to back this events, only some archeological records.
    Truly a blessed kin that of the romans.

    • @adanzavala4801
      @adanzavala4801 3 роки тому +3

      And yet arminius thought that it was worth it to fight for such savages. Just look at what the romans had built by then and what the germans did, barely making small strongholds.
      How was arminius so blind?

    • @Old_Harry7
      @Old_Harry7 3 роки тому +1

      @@adanzavala4801 Arminius would've never become something more than a competent general in siding with the Romans while in the German lands he could have become a king, in the end even that didn't work out for him.

  • @InterWebGuy99
    @InterWebGuy99 2 роки тому

    Superb narrative of incredible historical events makes for enthralling listening. This channel is a winner.

  • @anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023
    @anarcho-boulangistllamaent2023 3 роки тому +6

    The title of this video should be called "The Empire strikes back"

  • @fxitfastah
    @fxitfastah 3 роки тому +2

    A few notes, the South Sea, later the Ysselmeer(lake) is named after the river Ysla. This inland sea had very strong currents and it would be dry 6 hours and sunken the next 6 hours. It takes a while to row with Triremes. The most northern town is Nova Magus, this a Batavi/Roman settlement now named Nijmegen. (Big disputes over which was the first town in the Netherlands, the other is Utrecht or Trajectum and probably was a staging point of the most northern pincer as the name Trajectum.) Both names have are very clear Latin, which suggest their importance to this project. The Batavi auxiliaries were famous for swimming in full gear, praised by Augustus, later used by Claudius in the invasion of Britain.

  • @obiwancoolidge1828
    @obiwancoolidge1828 3 роки тому +50

    Flaus to Armenius: You we’re the chosen one! It was said you would pacify the Germanic tribes, not join them! Bring glory to the Empire, not leave it in darkness!
    Armenius: I HATE YOU!!
    Flaus: You we’re my brother Armenius…I loved you…

    • @Sirilere
      @Sirilere 3 роки тому +5

      LOL! 🤣 😂 🤣 ❤️ Well done!
      "Flavus" not "Flaus".

    • @obiwancoolidge1828
      @obiwancoolidge1828 3 роки тому +2

      @@Sirilere thanks and oops on the Flavus bit lol

    • @GoogleRuinsAnythingItTouches
      @GoogleRuinsAnythingItTouches 3 роки тому +2

      Meiner Meinung nach sind die Römer böse.

    • @reinercelsus8299
      @reinercelsus8299 3 роки тому +8

      I don't like Rome. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

    • @klol3369
      @klol3369 3 роки тому +3

      @@GoogleRuinsAnythingItTouchesbene quam pereunt

  • @sethdominickortiz
    @sethdominickortiz 3 роки тому +1

    Avenging varus series should be a model for other series

  • @gogolaifa
    @gogolaifa 3 роки тому +4

    Can you make a series about the Dacian wars and the Marcomanni wars please? It's fantastic!

  • @Maarten-Nauta
    @Maarten-Nauta 3 роки тому +2

    The Batavian cavalry story alone makes this battle worthy of a movie

  • @Aristocles22
    @Aristocles22 3 роки тому +46

    After Idistaviso/Weser River, Rome was basically back to where it was just before Teutoburg. Had the Romans wanted to conquer Germany, they could have, but chose not to as it had nothing they wanted. It wouldn't have made a big difference, as the barbarians which posed the greatest threat by the end were from much farther to the east.

    • @michaelweston409
      @michaelweston409 3 роки тому +24

      The barbarians that took down the empire centuries later actually hadn't settled in the area yet. They were either still in central Asia, Scandinavia & the Baltics.

    • @Aristocles22
      @Aristocles22 3 роки тому +9

      @@michaelweston409 They weren't in today's Germany, though. That was the point.

    • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
      @LuisBrito-ly1ko 3 роки тому +7

      That’s probably an excuse from Tiberius who feared Germanicus’ fame

    • @flyingstock5979
      @flyingstock5979 3 роки тому +8

      @@LuisBrito-ly1ko nah Tiberius was a experienced General who fought himself in Germania. He wasnt dumb, and after he ordered Germanicus back Arminius was still strong enough to fight a huge war against the marcomanni. A lot of the things we know about all this are pure propaganda by Tacitus, who tried to portray Germanicus as good as possible, while portraying Tiberius as bad as possible. Germanicus wasnt the halfgod Tacitus tried to make him, and Tiberius wasnt some jealous guy who stopped total victory. He way more likely stopped an endless war which from this point on wouldnt have gained anything

    • @LuisBrito-ly1ko
      @LuisBrito-ly1ko 3 роки тому +14

      @@flyingstock5979
      Considering how they go and conquer Britannia later, Germania wasn’t going to be, by any means, an endless war. And considering how Arminius’ life ends, it was just a matter of time.
      The Marcomanni’s strength at the time is unknown, so we can only consider that after two catastrophic defeats against the Romans, the tribes under Arminius were just the shadow of themselves. Hence why they needed to unite against one Germanic tribe.
      In the long run, having the borders on the Elbe would have been far more beneficial for the Empire, considering what was to come next.

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo6793 3 роки тому +1

    Nice video which clearly explaining all stages of this bloody, brutal war between Rome umpire armies and their foe Germanic tribes thanks for sharing

  • @dzr6007
    @dzr6007 3 роки тому +27

    Got here earlier than the praetorian guard killing emperors

  • @TheJimboslav
    @TheJimboslav 3 роки тому +1

    Well done, Invicta, well done!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 3 роки тому +10

    Can't wait to see more from the Germanic tribes. Maybe in the future you can do the Irish clans also

  • @khalidalriyami5435
    @khalidalriyami5435 3 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic series. The only channel that covered this particular campaign!

  • @anoordman1028
    @anoordman1028 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent series !!! Keep it going Round 3,
    69 AD revolt of the Batavi

  • @frankgaletzka8477
    @frankgaletzka8477 3 роки тому

    Fantastic many thanks to All who Made this possible

  • @weirdofromhalo
    @weirdofromhalo 3 роки тому +12

    Move as a doomstack, lol
    Great video!

    • @LuisXDotCom
      @LuisXDotCom 3 роки тому

      Reference to RTS deathballs?

  • @danidavis4811
    @danidavis4811 3 роки тому

    This was amazing!!!!! Eyes glued and full of anticipation the whole time!!!! You did an awesome job!!

  • @ArmouredProductions
    @ArmouredProductions 3 роки тому +7

    I wonder how they're going to do the meeting between Arminius and his brother in Season 2 of Barbarians.

  • @cultusdeus
    @cultusdeus 3 роки тому +1

    Very, very good analysis and good job in pointing this out. I imagine this will be on Netflix soon too.

  • @kamiloniszczuk9685
    @kamiloniszczuk9685 3 роки тому +6

    I get a feeling that they had a lot of time to think about this victory monument. Revenge is a hella drug

  • @sayerscreed
    @sayerscreed 3 роки тому +2

    It's finally here!

  • @amfa42
    @amfa42 3 роки тому +8

    Finally!!! New material for my Saturday breakfast!

  • @ceilingfangroyper7604
    @ceilingfangroyper7604 3 роки тому +1

    Epic history then You I’m set to have a good ride to work tomorrow

  • @jadenbediako8066
    @jadenbediako8066 2 роки тому +5

    Barbarians season 2 forgot about this

  • @diegoraggio6190
    @diegoraggio6190 3 роки тому

    This series was amazing!!! Thanks a lot for the work.

  • @hermespsychopompos8267
    @hermespsychopompos8267 3 роки тому +3

    Still hurts, the gift and the curse of being Greek. You learn your history, your great achievements and at that moment something terrible happens. A god damn brake we couldn't catch.

    • @GAndreC
      @GAndreC 3 роки тому +1

      Yep now it’s the Germans colonizing the Mediterranean and what was Rome as well as losing their minds when stuff they wanted to take during forced privatization is given to someone else

    • @antred11
      @antred11 3 роки тому

      *break

  • @thebluecatz4351
    @thebluecatz4351 3 роки тому

    got some chills on the 8 eagles omen part....great stuff as always!

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 3 роки тому +16

    I like to imagine that after the Germans routed, that the legionnaires started chanting "Teu-to-burg!" like Union troops did in the 1993 movie Gettysburg after the disastrous Picketts Charge.
    EDIT: Just realize I might actually have to say that yes, I understand the Romans probably had a different name for the forest or even if they didn't, they might not have known it had a name or what it was. My comment is just some harmless head canon.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome episode! ⚔🏹🤘

  • @martiawesome
    @martiawesome 3 роки тому +5

    Man i hope this battle is as engaging as youve told it in this video on season 2 of barbarians..the battle of teutoberg was really underwhelming last season..

  • @brianford8493
    @brianford8493 3 роки тому +2

    Great analysis....walked that ground as a sprogg

  • @FrontlinePros
    @FrontlinePros 3 роки тому +4

    There must be more to this moment of history.
    Why Amerminus with his Roman education and experience with Roman tactics would choose to attack head on without anything up his sleeve.
    After Teutouberg Forest they must have realised pitch battle was not the way to go. Perhaps he could not dissuade proud chieftains from an honorable frontal charge.

    • @canohernandez6428
      @canohernandez6428 3 роки тому +3

      Maybe the other tribal chieftains forced his hand with a inflated ego after there win in teutoburg

    • @FrontlinePros
      @FrontlinePros 3 роки тому +1

      @@canohernandez6428 that seems most likely.

    • @cyfertea8707
      @cyfertea8707 Рік тому

      He did try to ambush the romans but the problem is Germanicus isn't Varus. Germanicus may not be the best general but he his competent and is quickly able to predict and stop Armenius from doing another ambush. Also, Germanicus is straight up burning everything in his way, including farms, preventing the germans from using them. And Armenius's allied tribes wanted an open battle. So at this point, Armenius is out of options. His options are
      1. To ambush the romans. (Failed, Germanicus is able to adapt to the Germanian ambushes).
      2. Try and wait the romans out since they are away from their territory, while the Germanians have homeland advantage. (Also failed because Germanicus is able to build a steady supply line. Also Germanicus has destroyed every allied tribes on his way to Armenius, and destroyed every source of resources Germanians can take)
      3. Fight Romans in an open field battle, which is what the other tribes suggested.
      So Armenius is pretty much out of options and is forced to fight Germanicus in an open field battle. These are my insights tho, so I might be wrong

  • @agustinprats4662
    @agustinprats4662 3 роки тому +1

    More of this please!!,

  • @wazzupsters
    @wazzupsters 3 роки тому +3

    The *ONLY* gripe I have against the Avenging Varus series is that one day it will end.

  • @octodaddy4494
    @octodaddy4494 3 роки тому

    This is some real epic quality production. Good video.

  • @brendansaltvick5824
    @brendansaltvick5824 3 роки тому +4

    Holy shit it’s finally here!

  • @JuanPadilla376
    @JuanPadilla376 3 роки тому

    Your work is better than tv docs

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 3 роки тому +4

    Could you guys do a series on the Roman invasions of Caledonia?

  • @desdicadoric
    @desdicadoric 3 роки тому +1

    Been looking forward to this one

  • @Miltbro
    @Miltbro 3 роки тому +9

    15:47 The soldiers were spitting bars back then🔥

  • @magnemerstrand2289
    @magnemerstrand2289 3 роки тому +2

    I have been looking forward to this