Frank, boxing fans don't care about Netflix, how much money Tyson is making, movies or the Guinness book of records, we want to see the best boxers fight the best boxers.
@@pinky6863 Imagine trying to trash Usyk for making fights accessible and tickets affordable. Compare that to Fury charging record PPV prices for a trilogy with Chisora
Fury was successful & won his fight in first gear, Usyk legitimately lost his cheap fest & was twatted round the ring for 12 rounds by Chisora…..there’s the difference
@@SworBeyE16Don’t even bother with these Fury meat riders. Fury basically admitted to pricing himself out of the Usyk fight yet these stans go to lengths to defend him. So sad
Why can’t Spencer ever just be honest. He tries to be friends with everyone. This is hardly a grilling is it…come on Simon you can do better than that!
Man values his job. He's not much use to talk sport if he creates a situation where Frank refuses to come on when he's in the studio. Simon Jordan does have a bit of a go but he's not knowledgeable enough to beat Hearn in their debates and Warren likely feeds him snippets off screen to keep him onside.
Its called being a yes man. A couple weeks ago the ex carphone warehouse owner Jordan hilariously said "someone is going to pull the plug on boxing " and yes man Spencer said "absolutely Simon " 🤣
Has has not changed his mind tho. Fury always wanted money and the spotlight from the very beginning and lied to everyone claiming he was this humble guy.
Eddie and Anthony Joshua were using Wilder's name to justify ducking Fury and fighting bum Helenius. Eddie said "AJ can not fight Fury in September because Wilder is Locked in for December"😂
This is becoming beyond a joke.Fury,Warren and Co are turning the heavyweight division into a bloody joke.Where are the governing bodies in all of this.Regardless of whom,strip them of their belts if they price themselves out of it or refuse to fight opponents who have the other championship belts.Then we will see if Fury is the best fighter of his generation or maybe he is afraid of getting exposed as the overrated hype job that he really is.
Eddie Hearn is and always was the problem. Low balled everyone after he bought AJ the titles and priced his golden goose out of wilder and fury fights for good reason.
@@farindeeba543When u look at how AJ has gone now. Eddie did a bloody amazing job to get so mich money for all involved. And to this day when he fights. So say what u like thats facts.
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with most of this, calling Fury a hype job is a bit of a stretch. His talent is exceptional, which is why it’s such a shame he’s not going for the unification.
Agreed, give him his money, take his belt and let him arse about with non boxers, meanwhile top hungry contenders can get on with potential legacy building fights and actually look to unify.
@@Anonymous-bb8mg Typical casual Fury fan obsessed with AJ, always trying to bring him into it. Your statement is also incorrect for numerous reasons. Firstly, AJ only had 3 voluntaries as champion. Secondly, if you're unified there's set rotation between different organisations, based on when they were picked up. Even then your maths is off though(wrong). His IBF was picked up in 2016, Takam in 2017 was the IBF mandatory(on standby in the 2nd mandatory spot to replace Pulev... that's why they have the 2nd spot). It would have been sooner if not for the vacant WBA unification bout with Wlad. His WBA was picked up in 2017, Povetkin in 2018 was his WBA mandatory. Again, it would have been even sooner if not for another unification bout for the WBO with Parker. Then in June 2019, AJ was granted his first voluntary since 2016, against Miller Jin the USA, who was replaced by Ruiz Jr and AJ lost that voluntary but won them back in the rematch. Pulev earned his way back to IBF mandatory with wins over Chisora and H Fury but COVID pushed that fight back to late 2020. Then AJ had to fight WBO mandatory Usyk in 2021 and we know what happened there.
Long story short, I've seen Wilder and Fury fanboys spin false narratives around AJ's voluntaries/mandataries. None of them ever get their facts right, that I've seen. I'd also say most hardcore boxing fans would put a unification bout over a simple mandatory in most circumstances(all things equal) for obvious reasons, none would disingenuously try and lump them with voluntaries, tomato can level at that. How disingenuous can you get? AJ did two of his voluntaries in 2016(same year he won the IBF), Breazeale and Molina. The only other voluntary was Ruiz Jr. Breazeale and Ruiz Jr should never have been considered bums given their rankings(one was undefeated and top 10 IBF, the other could have been WBO champ and undefeated with different judges). Molina was never anything more than warm up fight while the WBA unification with Wlad was being agreed(number 1-2 ranked HW in the world, who Fury ducked a rematch from IMO). Fury has had worse opponents than Molina since coming back from 'retirement'. Wilder fanboys especially have no room to talk because Wilder got buckled by him the year before and they were actually trying to rate that as a credible win(amongst others) unlike AJ fans. Both sets of fanboys seem to really scrape the barrel trying to create these weak-false narratives, forgetting/not knowing about their idol's opponents like for like(no room to talk). The real boxing fans aren't just a fan of a boxing personality(idol worshippers) like those types, so they don't need false narratives or to bend the truth to lift anyone up or bring them down... The lack of even handedness in their takes, stands out like a sore thumb but they seem oblivious to it and bank on everyone else not knowing enough to see when they are blagging it or twisting the truth to fit their narratives.
@@QASSYNO1 Joshua went into negotiations with team Fury for 2 months in September and October 2022. He said he was ready to fight him then lost his pen when the contract arrived. You go f*** away to sleep🤣
The "best of his generation" comment should not be used when referring to Tyson Fury. It needs to change as he is yet to earn this title until he beats Usyk and Joshua
Frank, UFC is not a discipline. MMA is the discipline. It infuriates me how out of touch and washed Frank Warren and Bob Arum were at the press conference. As you said, it’s free publicity for the UFC, even though they treated Francis terribly and tried to slander his reputation when he wouldn’t resign
I was just about to type this. Dana White must love the fact that casual fight fans call mixed martial arts 'UFC'.... Francis isn't even part of the UFC organisation anymore and Dana is still getting free marketing.
@@pinky6863 Erm, what discipline is 'bbj' then? Of course the sport of MMA is a discipline in itself (even if it has evolved from combining other individual sporting disciplines). It still requires a method of training and participants of the sport have to obey specific rules and a code of behaviour.
The blasphemy of comparing this to Ali when Ali fought a mma fighter in the same year he fought 4 professional bouts, 2 of those being against Ken Norton and Jimmy Young whereas Fury will have been out of the ring for 10 months 🥴Ali had just had the thriller in manilla the previous year and had somewhere north of 17 title defences, Fury in the middle of his prime again, 10 months from his third defence against ancient Chisora. Ali also let the mma fighter kick rather than just take his head off in boxing rules.
Well, its different now. We also see how fighting with such high volume effects your health. Ali, Fraiser, Hearns etc. It wouldn't be allowed today and I doubt anyone wants to take that many regular blows to the head knowing what the inevitable outcome is
How does Frank keep trotting out the "he's in the Guinness World Records for hardest punch" line all the time, like it's supposed to make the fight more appealing? Tyson already beat a huge puncher 3 times and we're expected to believe another huge puncher who can't box is going to be a challenge?
Too right👍and he's not got the world's hardest punch either, he in fact, has the hardest punch recorded at a UFC Performance Institute. Frank is full of shite
He doesn't need to give it up. WBC haven't given him a mandatory. I love the Fury but do believe WBC need to fulfill their obligations and control the championship belt.
The whole purpose of a mandatory is to ensure the best fight the best and not cherry pick and duck opponents as Fury is doing. It should be 2 mandatory's a year. Nobody can accuse AJ of ducking hence why he has a few losses.
@@Anonymous-bb8mg - I'm not hating on Fury or any fighter - it's the governing bodies that are mainly to blame, you give someone endless slack they just keep pulling the rope.
Spencer continually calls this fight a crossover. Its not. Its pure Queensbury Rules. That's a boxing match. There are no mix of UFC / Queensbury regulations that will qualify it as a "crossover" That loose language is there to make it seem exciting.
Once this fiasco is out of the way, Fury should be forced to defend against his mandatory. If that doesn't happen, then he should be stripped of the belt.
There's a part all tyson fury and Warren boot kickers always miss out. Anthony joshua was offered the ngannou fight before fury! Joshua turned it down because he had unfinished business in his career apparently. That's on numerous interviews hearn saying that way before fury was linked to ngannou
Frank, you probably won't read this, but I'm going to point it out regardless - The UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) isn't a discipline or a sport, it's an MMA promotion that Francis Ngannou no longer fights for. MMA (mixed martial arts) is his discipline. Sorry guys, had to get that off my chest as nobody on Talksport seems to want to correct the guy.
I really want someone to call spencer out for continuously saying “furys the best of this generation” as if it’s a given. There’s a Ukrainian guy with 4 of the belts that begs to differ and so far fury doesn’t seem up for fighting him.
All very pally in there isn't it? If Hearn was putting this farce of an event on if AJ was the current WBC champ, they would be sharpening their knives waiting for him to come into the studio. But apparently there is no bias here. Yeah, sure there's not.
I remember when Joshua had to fight two different mandatories but Fairy seems to get an easy ride. Cherry picks stiffs and trolley boyz ducks everyone else, Fairy is not someone for youngsters to look up to.
“Tyson Fury’s the best of this generation right now.” That right there is exactly why Fury is doing what he’s doing now. Fair enough. People can’t call him the best and then revoke their statements when he chooses not to “prove” it. Why prove it, when people already laud him as the best?? Everyone who’s called him the best prematurely has no right to complain when he has these exhibitions.
The issue is that the WBC are allowing Tyson to take hostage of the world title… Give it up or strip him if he’s not going to boxing… let him be a clown with movies and mma exhibition fights but if you’re not going to box, then give up the world title and let other boxers fight for the title
How can Ngannou win by KO when it’s an exhibition; people need to look at the rules to know no KOs allowed. It’s embarrassing, so is Spencer who’s turned into a boot licker
Jim was right, there is no jeopardy in this fight. Even if, by some miracle, Ngannou knocks Fury out, Fury will still be undefeated, he'll still keep his belt and everything will continue as normal. Literally no point watching this circus because there are absolutely no stakes!
Tyson said he no longer wants to be in the boxing ring, so he should now be stripped of his heavyweight championship and let others who want to go into a boxing ring fight for that belt
@@JohnSmith-yx1cj He wouldn't have to be to twat the wee lightweight fraud about. The punch that Daniel floored Usyk with was the same punches Anderson finished his man with hrs later, some of them lower (check it), anywhere else in the world & Usyk would have been counted out. That's why Fury offered him 70-30, because that's all he's worth, both Wilder & Fury would annihilate him & let me tell you this....Usyk split negotiations because Fury wouldn't fund his war against the Russians (See Krassyuk's recent Boxing Social interview) which was the 2nd time he'd ran in a year, after he beat AJ in the 2nd fight & called Fury out & Fury accepted....they said they; 'Weren't ready...'
My comments were what Tyson Fury actually said himself, so have a look what he said then comment. If he’s finished with boxing 🥊 move aside for someone else 🤡🤡🤡
Absolute joke. Massive Fury fan but charging this fight as a box office fight is scandalous and even worse hearing the estimated millions that both fighters and getting. Terrible and shameful.
TALKsport boxing. All talk leave out the sport. Fury and Frank Warren are all talk. Fury is not a boxer. Being a boxer means you consistently fight not once a year against mma beginners. Heavyweight boxing is dying. The best they can come up with after 11 months since fury fought chisora is fury fighting an mma fighter who has never boxed. Usyk fights once a year. Wilder never fights. Ruiz jr never fights. Joshua fights twice a year against losers. Proper boxers need to fight 3,4,5 times a year against proper contenders.
Fury is milking all the platforms available to him and not giving the boxing fans the fights they really want to see! When you sit down and analyse his legacy it is full of asterisks!
Yeah whatever. Boxing is better off without him. If he wants to be a showman let him join wrestling where he belongs. Ruining the fight game and people like you still defend him.
Cant believe there is still clowns defending fury 😂 Worst champion in history. Destorying the sport on his own yet his fan girls will defend him because they watched keeping up with the furys
He didn’t want AJ in London, he said that knowing that the London dates didn’t align with AJ existing fight schedule. He had a fight booked and would have to go straight back in the ring
How much f…… money do these fighters want. He got big money for the Klitchko fight, he got three big bags of money for the Wilder trilogies, plus the other big monies he got for Whyte, Chisora, and the rest. The greed of these people is truly astounding.
Frank Warren was about to equate fury in the WWE as the same as Ali vs Inoki before he got cut off. Someone needs to tell Frank that Ali vs Inoki was an actual shoot and not a worked WWE match lol. Inoki was a legit guy who Ali knew the risk was too much and it's why his team changed the rules.
@@jaydognir what u said just back me up of more of a reason y no1 should be grilling Hearn for that fight not being made. But you clearly don’t know boxing or just lying to your self. Because if aj vs wilder gets made that will be the biggest fight apart from fury vs usyk. Even your hating ass will watch it 😂
What’s the point in having Warren on the show? Mug him off and talk about something else instead. Him and Tyson have lost ALL credibility and Talk sport are too much on the fence. The only thing that’s big about the circus act is how much of a scam this whole thing is. I hope it doesn’t make a profit.
You know your boxer has no credibility left when you have to defend him by saying he's a successful author and Netflix star. Such great boxing achievements those. It's like trying to say how good a boxer George Foreman was because of his grill.
@@apuestasfutbol is this sarcasm? No teenagers are buying this, they will just illegally stream it. The feeling in MMA forums is that they aren't interested in this, we have seen this story before, MMA guy loses in boxing. Got it. I don't think this going to do nearly what they think it is and if they got 75 million tied up in the main event alone, they have a big hill to climb is they want to make money. Just from my own perspective, I have never met or chatted with anyone who wants to watch this debacle.
This is a joke. Around and around, we go. Not only should Fury be embarrassed, but the WBC. Ali vs. Frazier, Frazier vs. Foreman Tyson vs. Burbick. , a million fights I could name that I'd rather watch than Tyson Fury. And Jim White, the posh guy, still invites Warren on their podcast and pretend they give him a hard time. Crooks the lot of them and should be embarrassed to call themselves leaders in boxing
“Del boys a warm up for usyk in Feb “ ur direct quote edit Alex and “it’s a 50/50 spilt easy fight to make “ warren direct quote talking about usyk 🤣🤣 game changer exhibition rematch clause 🤣🤣
Tyson Fury wins again 😎 the big fight in boxing has been getting the backing of Saudi.. Usyk, Wilder & Joshua just shit out of luck 🍀 coz skill challenge has been over powered by they Saudi’s that are now backing Fury .. Lol .. another reason why Usyk & Joshua should of signed Fury’s offered contracts in the summer They have both shit out. . And Usyk now has to get past Hrgovic Shouldn’t of even got past DDD .. Fury wants the money now So get check books out if you want it that bad ..
Imagine if Joshua was still champion and decided to fight Ngannou. Talksport would be doing overtime pulling it to bits. Fury should be stripped of his belts. Why isn’t that mentioned to Uncle Frank?!
There are two ways of looking at this. Its Fury ducking a title fight or the WBC have messed up by not mandating a challenger. Fury next fight has to be to defend his title against a top 5 WBC ranked fighter.
I wish Frank would stop describing Ngannou as the best in is discipline…he’s nothing like the best. He ran from the UFC rather than defend his title against Jon Jones who would have torn him to pieces.
Bricktop needs to be honest. Fury is taking the bum fights when Usyk has to do mandatory fights. Fury doesn't have any mandatory fights so he keep his belt while Usyk does all the work. He's hoping Usyk will slip up so Fury can step in and take the easy undisputed option.
Warren doesn’t care one jot about boxing, it’s all about money and undermining matchroom. As for Fury, he’s got all the bravado but is afraid to face Usyk.
Fury saying he’s done everything wot a joke his record apart from an old klitschcoe and wilder is horrendous he’s a joke and a ducker one of worst champions in years
This fury talk is so boring. Boxing need to get rid of warren, fury and start again...... this is beyond a joke. His logic is that no one wants to fight him, which is stupid
Spensor is such a company man..never asks the tough questions and never gives a controversial answer...afraid to rock the boat
Hes a waist of space mate.
Connor Benn wouldn’t agree
@@ruffness1 If Connor was sitting next to him though he'd be backtracking on all the stuff he's said about Benn and cosying up to him.
Absolute slave to the pound note
you can't just have shock jocks. Talksport already has enough of them.
Frank, boxing fans don't care about Netflix, how much money Tyson is making, movies or the Guinness book of records, we want to see the best boxers fight the best boxers.
Frank doesn't care about that mate, facts. He's the worst promoter right now defending Fury and trying to get quitter Dubois a rematch absolute joke.
@@pinky6863 Trying to deflect by talking about AJ I see
@@pinky6863 Imagine trying to trash Usyk for making fights accessible and tickets affordable. Compare that to Fury charging record PPV prices for a trilogy with Chisora
Fury was successful & won his fight in first gear, Usyk legitimately lost his cheap fest & was twatted round the ring for 12 rounds by Chisora…..there’s the difference
@@SworBeyE16Don’t even bother with these Fury meat riders. Fury basically admitted to pricing himself out of the Usyk fight yet these stans go to lengths to defend him. So sad
Why can’t Spencer ever just be honest. He tries to be friends with everyone.
This is hardly a grilling is it…come on Simon you can do better than that!
Used to be a courageous little boxer, now a pathetic yes man to Fish Eyes.
Man values his job. He's not much use to talk sport if he creates a situation where Frank refuses to come on when he's in the studio.
Simon Jordan does have a bit of a go but he's not knowledgeable enough to beat Hearn in their debates and Warren likely feeds him snippets off screen to keep him onside.
Arse lick
He already has the Benns father wanting to give him a back hand slap and Conor is out for him also .
Its called being a yes man. A couple weeks ago the ex carphone warehouse owner Jordan hilariously said "someone is going to pull the plug on boxing " and yes man Spencer said "absolutely Simon " 🤣
Highest paid athlete…. Same person that said “it’s not about the money”
Don’t hate
@@pinky6863 Did he change his mind about PED usage too?
Yes, that was the final straw for me. I really appreciated the not about the money tone he used to have. What a sad world.
@@pinky6863 Shows a distinct lack of principles.
Has has not changed his mind tho. Fury always wanted money and the spotlight from the very beginning and lied to everyone claiming he was this humble guy.
Warren trying to justify this fight is classic 😂
He’s a good sport, he doesn’t have to. The fight is sold already. If boxing fans tune in, it’s a bonus. All the best.
There may be 50 million justifications if Jim White was right lol
Eddie and Anthony Joshua were using Wilder's name to justify ducking Fury and fighting bum Helenius. Eddie said "AJ can not fight Fury in September because Wilder is Locked in for December"😂
Frank is an old wrinkled foreskin
It's just a sideshow nothing else nothing more
This is becoming beyond a joke.Fury,Warren and Co are turning the heavyweight division into a bloody joke.Where are the governing bodies in all of this.Regardless of whom,strip them of their belts if they price themselves out of it or refuse to fight opponents who have the other championship belts.Then we will see if Fury is the best fighter of his generation or maybe he is afraid of getting exposed as the overrated hype job that he really is.
Eddie Hearn is and always was the problem. Low balled everyone after he bought AJ the titles and priced his golden goose out of wilder and fury fights for good reason.
Very well said
Sitting there rubbing there fat fingers together thinking of all the money.
@@farindeeba543When u look at how AJ has gone now. Eddie did a bloody amazing job to get so mich money for all involved. And to this day when he fights. So say what u like thats facts.
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with most of this, calling Fury a hype job is a bit of a stretch. His talent is exceptional, which is why it’s such a shame he’s not going for the unification.
Why is he lying? It’s common knowledge now that he ducked Usyk.
How’s skills challenge and Usyk? Do you think they regret turning down 20 million in April? Usyk got advised wrong
@@alexbelotti1603you actually think fury would have fought usyk? 😂
He wasn't even in training 🤡
@@alexbelotti1603I think not, cause they know Fury wouldn't fight anyway. He kept moving the goalpost.
@@MaccaveliPL70 30 was the deal but Usyk was worth more? Then made 5 million last month 😓
@@alexbelotti1603 70/30 was a disgrace, yes, but Usyk took the deal. Fury priced himself out.
This is destroying boxing. Hopefully Fury gives up the belt and retires and then we can move this division along and get some real fights.
Agreed, give him his money, take his belt and let him arse about with non boxers, meanwhile top hungry contenders can get on with potential legacy building fights and actually look to unify.
Fury fought his mandatory last April. Anthony Joshua was fighting 1 mandatory every 3 year for each of his belts between 2016 and 2021
@@miguelLDiablolike who? You seen the wbc rankings! Fury does what he wants. Cry about it.
@@Anonymous-bb8mg Typical casual Fury fan obsessed with AJ, always trying to bring him into it. Your statement is also incorrect for numerous reasons. Firstly, AJ only had 3 voluntaries as champion. Secondly, if you're unified there's set rotation between different organisations, based on when they were picked up. Even then your maths is off though(wrong). His IBF was picked up in 2016, Takam in 2017 was the IBF mandatory(on standby in the 2nd mandatory spot to replace Pulev... that's why they have the 2nd spot). It would have been sooner if not for the vacant WBA unification bout with Wlad. His WBA was picked up in 2017, Povetkin in 2018 was his WBA mandatory. Again, it would have been even sooner if not for another unification bout for the WBO with Parker. Then in June 2019, AJ was granted his first voluntary since 2016, against Miller Jin the USA, who was replaced by Ruiz Jr and AJ lost that voluntary but won them back in the rematch. Pulev earned his way back to IBF mandatory with wins over Chisora and H Fury but COVID pushed that fight back to late 2020. Then AJ had to fight WBO mandatory Usyk in 2021 and we know what happened there.
Long story short, I've seen Wilder and Fury fanboys spin false narratives around AJ's voluntaries/mandataries. None of them ever get their facts right, that I've seen. I'd also say most hardcore boxing fans would put a unification bout over a simple mandatory in most circumstances(all things equal) for obvious reasons, none would disingenuously try and lump them with voluntaries, tomato can level at that. How disingenuous can you get?
AJ did two of his voluntaries in 2016(same year he won the IBF), Breazeale and Molina. The only other voluntary was Ruiz Jr. Breazeale and Ruiz Jr should never have been considered bums given their rankings(one was undefeated and top 10 IBF, the other could have been WBO champ and undefeated with different judges). Molina was never anything more than warm up fight while the WBA unification with Wlad was being agreed(number 1-2 ranked HW in the world, who Fury ducked a rematch from IMO).
Fury has had worse opponents than Molina since coming back from 'retirement'. Wilder fanboys especially have no room to talk because Wilder got buckled by him the year before and they were actually trying to rate that as a credible win(amongst others) unlike AJ fans. Both sets of fanboys seem to really scrape the barrel trying to create these weak-false narratives, forgetting/not knowing about their idol's opponents like for like(no room to talk). The real boxing fans aren't just a fan of a boxing personality(idol worshippers) like those types, so they don't need false narratives or to bend the truth to lift anyone up or bring them down... The lack of even handedness in their takes, stands out like a sore thumb but they seem oblivious to it and bank on everyone else not knowing enough to see when they are blagging it or twisting the truth to fit their narratives.
Ain’t even watched it yet but no doubt Joshua’s to blame for something.
Joshua ducked Fury twice within a year to fight Franklin and Helenius for no belt and less money
@@Anonymous-bb8mg usyk ducked the undisputed Usyk fight to fight an MMA fighter.
And Usyk gets blamed and Hearn, anyone but Fury😂😂😂
@@Anonymous-bb8mgafter he lost and was at his lowest point then he pops up to fight him. Away go back to sleep
@@QASSYNO1 Joshua went into negotiations with team Fury for 2 months in September and October 2022. He said he was ready to fight him then lost his pen when the contract arrived. You go f*** away to sleep🤣
The "best of his generation" comment should not be used when referring to Tyson Fury. It needs to change as he is yet to earn this title until he beats Usyk and Joshua
You're right, this is the reason he feels he's completed boxing.
Definitely
The Talk sport clowns constantly say it, it's nonsense he won't fight Usyk so we don't know who the generational best is.
Usyk hasn’t fought wilder, he fought Joshua who already had a loss on his record before they fought.
As well as clean out all the contenders in the division
Warren is killing boxing. All he cares about is monetising Fury's career in everything but boxing.
Tyson fury will kill Usyks career next year too and the excuses will be amazing. Warren has taken over in Saudi 👍🏻
Frank Warren just made sure his client got 50 million for a fight when he didn’t have a mandatory due and they’ve taken over Saudi. Enjoy 👍🏻
Name one sport that doesnt try to generate as much money as possibly stickman???
@sticksman warren always been the same biggest twat to have a promoter license British version don king
No, replace the name Warren with Tyson
Frank, UFC is not a discipline. MMA is the discipline. It infuriates me how out of touch and washed Frank Warren and Bob Arum were at the press conference. As you said, it’s free publicity for the UFC, even though they treated Francis terribly and tried to slander his reputation when he wouldn’t resign
😂 wise up
@@pinky6863talk about clueless...
@pinky6863 boxing is a pillow fist Bullshit sport
I was just about to type this. Dana White must love the fact that casual fight fans call mixed martial arts 'UFC'.... Francis isn't even part of the UFC organisation anymore and Dana is still getting free marketing.
@@pinky6863 Erm, what discipline is 'bbj' then? Of course the sport of MMA is a discipline in itself (even if it has evolved from combining other individual sporting disciplines). It still requires a method of training and participants of the sport have to obey specific rules and a code of behaviour.
The blasphemy of comparing this to Ali when Ali fought a mma fighter in the same year he fought 4 professional bouts, 2 of those being against Ken Norton and Jimmy Young whereas Fury will have been out of the ring for 10 months 🥴Ali had just had the thriller in manilla the previous year and had somewhere north of 17 title defences, Fury in the middle of his prime again, 10 months from his third defence against ancient Chisora. Ali also let the mma fighter kick rather than just take his head off in boxing rules.
Well, its different now. We also see how fighting with such high volume effects your health. Ali, Fraiser, Hearns etc. It wouldn't be allowed today and I doubt anyone wants to take that many regular blows to the head knowing what the inevitable outcome is
Look at the lack or energy and enthusiasm Simon has, when confrontint Frank Warren.
If Eddie was in the studio, Simon would not be holding back.
Oh, here we go…
Did u watch the video mate?
Seriously...
Selective outrage as usual from Simon “the Queensbury sycophant” Jordan.
What the fuck has this got to do with Eddie. The fact you're even bringing it up shows that their nonsence is working 😂
How does Frank keep trotting out the "he's in the Guinness World Records for hardest punch" line all the time, like it's supposed to make the fight more appealing? Tyson already beat a huge puncher 3 times and we're expected to believe another huge puncher who can't box is going to be a challenge?
Too right👍and he's not got the world's hardest punch either, he in fact, has the hardest punch recorded at a UFC Performance Institute. Frank is full of shite
Wilder can't box either 🤷🏼♂️
Ngannou can KO his opponents with one punch. He has the power to break Joshua's glass jaw in early rounds.
2 times, one draw. But take your point.
@@Anonymous-bb8mgwats this got to do with Joshua he has never been sparked out in his life u clown wilder sparked fury out in the first fight
Why no question to Frank about "why isn't Fury giving up the WBC belt if he isn't interested in fighting other boxers?"
Agree totally,that is the most important question that they should have stuck on Frank.
He doesn't need to give it up. WBC haven't given him a mandatory. I love the Fury but do believe WBC need to fulfill their obligations and control the championship belt.
@@martinrivers1667 True, Fury defended his belt last April. Joshua was holding 3 belts and he fought just 4 mandatories in 6 years
The whole purpose of a mandatory is to ensure the best fight the best and not cherry pick and duck opponents as Fury is doing. It should be 2 mandatory's a year. Nobody can accuse AJ of ducking hence why he has a few losses.
@@Anonymous-bb8mgfucking hell mate wtf has AJ got do with this .. please tell me AJ has done to you lmao
Even Frank can’t spin this one 😂
Fury Fans don't care about boxing..........
I bet they dont pressure frank like they do eddie hearn BUNCH OF MUPPETS AND CLOWNS
When has Hearn been under pressure?
@@Stevenbutterworth1992In every single talksport interview.
I'm one of the 7 million watchers on UA-cam, I sure as hell won't be paying for this exhibition fight.
Gay
Sound
You won’t be missed
@@goncaloamaral7846 I take it you're gonna be one of the mugs that will... 😂
@@deckard86 you’re just skint and embittered
Let's not forget Fury and Warren are doing what the WBC are allowing them to get away with - Fury should've been mandated months ago.
Yep lost all respect for WBC just as much as Fury.
Anthony Joshua was fighting 1 mandatory every 3 year for each belt when he was a champion. Fury fought his mandatory last April
@@Anonymous-bb8mg - I'm not hating on Fury or any fighter - it's the governing bodies that are mainly to blame, you give someone endless slack they just keep pulling the rope.
Who would his mandatory be then?
@@hooligangorilla7429 - if it was down to Sulaiman, probably you.
Utterly embarrassing.
Get that Spencer Oliver off the show, Sat like a nodding head terrified of Warren, ridiculous.
This interview prove Eddie hearn right ....
The energy was so friendly
Spencer continually calls this fight a crossover. Its not. Its pure Queensbury Rules. That's a boxing match. There are no mix of UFC / Queensbury regulations that will qualify it as a "crossover" That loose language is there to make it seem exciting.
Even if it was a true crossover I’d still have no interest it. What would it prove? Who’s the best at some made up sport that doesn’t exist??
Spencers a puppet.
He says what those above him want to hear.
Spencer as a pundit is the right person for the job 🥊
@@escort888 The right person for Frank’s daily blow job more like.
Once this fiasco is out of the way, Fury should be forced to defend against his mandatory. If that doesn't happen, then he should be stripped of the belt.
@Anonymous-wm9ns Yeah, it's a joke; all about the cash 💰
There's a part all tyson fury and Warren boot kickers always miss out.
Anthony joshua was offered the ngannou fight before fury! Joshua turned it down because he had unfinished business in his career apparently. That's on numerous interviews hearn saying that way before fury was linked to ngannou
As boxing fans we don’t care about Netflix or fighting ufc fighters we want boxing matches against the best of the best not also rans
100% correct
Yes. But WBC need to take control.
@@martinrivers1667 correct
They offered Usyk 70/30 and he accepted
I wonder if Frank sits on Tyson more than Paris does 🤔
Neither sit on him as much as GAD
Frank, you probably won't read this, but I'm going to point it out regardless -
The UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) isn't a discipline or a sport, it's an MMA promotion that Francis Ngannou no longer fights for.
MMA (mixed martial arts) is his discipline.
Sorry guys, had to get that off my chest as nobody on Talksport seems to want to correct the guy.
Hope your feeling better now. Must of been hard coughing that up.
@@Overeasyeggsoee I'm not saying he's wrong.
Frank reads all your comments 😂😂😂
I internally scream this at Frank each time.
I also hate it when he says he is "The UFC heavyweight champion" Nganou hasn't been the HVW Champ for ages!!!
Frank saying Fury done it before as a defence is hilarious.
Why does Spencer say Fury is the best of this generation, he hasn't fought Usyk to prove and we know who's doing the ducking.
Usyk only came up to HW 5 years back, Usyk is not in his generation. How’s skills challenge btw?
@@alexbelotti1603fury has only fought klitchsko who was past it and wilder who has beat nobody.
Best of his generation 😂 complete joke
@@alexbelotti1603he's been a champ for 2 years now, Tyson's a champ for 3.5 years. Of course it's his generation. His older than him, lol.
@@andyc2433the two biggest legacy wins over the last 20 years. Name me a better HW pal?
@@MaccaveliPLfury’s generation is wilder and AJ, fought wilder and AJ will come running now the Saudi money has evaporated for the Wilder AJ fight.
I really want someone to call spencer out for continuously saying “furys the best of this generation” as if it’s a given. There’s a Ukrainian guy with 4 of the belts that begs to differ and so far fury doesn’t seem up for fighting him.
Hardly a grilling was it? 😂
All very pally in there isn't it? If Hearn was putting this farce of an event on if AJ was the current WBC champ, they would be sharpening their knives waiting for him to come into the studio. But apparently there is no bias here. Yeah, sure there's not.
I remember when Joshua had to fight two different mandatories but Fairy seems to get an easy ride. Cherry picks stiffs and trolley boyz ducks everyone else, Fairy is not someone for youngsters to look up to.
Spencer bottled it with his assessment
F the UA-cam views, F tiktok views, F WBC allowing this, this is an Fing sport! They should be fighting against ranked fighters, this is a circus!
Sooner Frank jogs on the better man is a stain on boxing
‘ Frank look at me, is he getting 50 Million? ‘ Good old Jim White 😂😂😂👍
😂😂😂😂
“Tyson Fury’s the best of this generation right now.” That right there is exactly why Fury is doing what he’s doing now. Fair enough.
People can’t call him the best and then revoke their statements when he chooses not to “prove” it. Why prove it, when people already laud him as the best?? Everyone who’s called him the best prematurely has no right to complain when he has these exhibitions.
He has single handedly killed Boxing if he doesnt defend his belt after this madness.
The issue is that the WBC are allowing Tyson to take hostage of the world title… Give it up or strip him if he’s not going to boxing… let him be a clown with movies and mma exhibition fights but if you’re not going to box, then give up the world title and let other boxers fight for the title
This interview was like a holiday camp compared to Hearn
Tyson didnt "stand and trade" with anyone. He used wrestling tactics... thats not standing and trading. Its holding and traiding
Spencer call it for what it is. Don’t shit yourself in front of Warren
Frank saying fury been training constantly 🤣
Looks like he has
So if you never received an offer Frank, what’s stopping your team sending Usyks team an offer?
“His the best in UFC”
Jon Jones enters the chat.
How can Ngannou win by KO when it’s an exhibition; people need to look at the rules to know no KOs allowed. It’s embarrassing, so is Spencer who’s turned into a boot licker
Well said Simon. There’s plenty of heavyweight boxers willing to fight Tyson fury
Apparently it’s an exhibition fight meaning no knock outs, it’s not even on boxrec. Free up the WBC belt and then there’s no issue.
Jim was right, there is no jeopardy in this fight. Even if, by some miracle, Ngannou knocks Fury out, Fury will still be undefeated, he'll still keep his belt and everything will continue as normal. Literally no point watching this circus because there are absolutely no stakes!
GRILL 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm still feeling the flames 😅
Frank you didn't pay Sugar Hill to stay quiet.
Tyson said he no longer wants to be in the boxing ring, so he should now be stripped of his heavyweight championship and let others who want to go into a boxing ring fight for that belt
He also said Usyk & Joshua WON'T fight him, how come you didn't pick up on that??
Tyson didn’t want the Usyk fight he wasn’t in shape to fight anyone why didn’t you pick up on that Frank 🤡
@@JohnSmith-yx1cj He wouldn't have to be to twat the wee lightweight fraud about. The punch that Daniel floored Usyk with was the same punches Anderson finished his man with hrs later, some of them lower (check it), anywhere else in the world & Usyk would have been counted out. That's why Fury offered him 70-30, because that's all he's worth, both Wilder & Fury would annihilate him & let me tell you this....Usyk split negotiations because Fury wouldn't fund his war against the Russians (See Krassyuk's recent Boxing Social interview) which was the 2nd time he'd ran in a year, after he beat AJ in the 2nd fight & called Fury out & Fury accepted....they said they; 'Weren't ready...'
Why don’t you get In and fight him Johnsmith
My comments were what Tyson Fury actually said himself, so have a look what he said then comment. If he’s finished with boxing 🥊 move aside for someone else 🤡🤡🤡
Absolute joke. Massive Fury fan but charging this fight as a box office fight is scandalous and even worse hearing the estimated millions that both fighters and getting. Terrible and shameful.
Take the WBC belt of him if he is not fighting mandatory boxers and see if the future offers and the interest will be as big as is now.
He’s got no mandatory yet which is the WBC’s job to do not Furys get ur facts right
@@philiplewis7572
in this case he should fight Chisora again to keep boxing fans like you happy.
It’s Easier to stay undefeated that way I guess.
TALKsport boxing. All talk leave out the sport. Fury and Frank Warren are all talk. Fury is not a boxer. Being a boxer means you consistently fight not once a year against mma beginners. Heavyweight boxing is dying. The best they can come up with after 11 months since fury fought chisora is fury fighting an mma fighter who has never boxed. Usyk fights once a year. Wilder never fights. Ruiz jr never fights. Joshua fights twice a year against losers. Proper boxers need to fight 3,4,5 times a year against proper contenders.
They need to get that belt of him.
How much shares does Warren have in talksport?
Fury will probably never fight another boxer, he don’t care about legacy or he’s fans, all he cares about is Money….
😂😂
Good on him
In my opinion Fury obsessing over money is only going to lead him down that familiar dark path.
Seriously tyson needs ro be strpped of his belt immediately
Should've been mandated month's ago.
Look at Spencer’s nodding at Frank constantly. Embarrassing muppet.
Fury is milking all the platforms available to him and not giving the boxing fans the fights they really want to see! When you sit down and analyse his legacy it is full of asterisks!
Sick of hearing that Francis was the best in ufc….he really wasn’t
Spencer Oliver is a proper little melt
Spence Oliver man he's got to be one of the biggest Rimmer's out there along with the GAD
Without boxing Tyson Fury would be nothing, so he owes the sport!
Yeah whatever. Boxing is better off without him.
If he wants to be a showman let him join wrestling where he belongs.
Ruining the fight game and people like you still defend him.
You want a F-ing shoot out!
Cant believe there is still clowns defending fury 😂
Worst champion in history. Destorying the sport on his own yet his fan girls will defend him because they watched keeping up with the furys
Only the special needs casuals left though, I’m an ex fury fan, I stopped behind a fan ages ago when he started ducking AJ.
Fed up of listening to Warrens' rubbish!
I blame wbc for not stripping the belt from tyson "lying king" fury
How many times do they need to cover old ground?
Frank i ain't buying it. Literally i ain't funding Fury.
He didn’t want AJ in London, he said that knowing that the London dates didn’t align with AJ existing fight schedule. He had a fight booked and would have to go straight back in the ring
How much f…… money do these fighters want. He got big money for the Klitchko fight, he got three big bags of money for the Wilder trilogies, plus the other big monies he got for Whyte, Chisora, and the rest. The greed of these people is truly astounding.
Don't worry, the ever modest and humble Fury will put it all towards charity.
I would genuinely prefer to see AJ vs Wilder than fury vs Usyk .
Frank Warren was about to equate fury in the WWE as the same as Ali vs Inoki before he got cut off. Someone needs to tell Frank that Ali vs Inoki was an actual shoot and not a worked WWE match lol. Inoki was a legit guy who Ali knew the risk was too much and it's why his team changed the rules.
Why don’t you grill Hearn on why the wilder fight isn’t done ?
Since when do we grilling none title fights, specially with 2 fighters on 2 different platforms.
Not the same as fury and usyk
No1 wants to see that fight lol AJ is finished at elite level
@@jaydognir what u said just back me up of more of a reason y no1 should be grilling Hearn for that fight not being made.
But you clearly don’t know boxing or just lying to your self.
Because if aj vs wilder gets made that will be the biggest fight apart from fury vs usyk.
Even your hating ass will watch it 😂
What’s the point in having Warren on the show? Mug him off and talk about something else instead. Him and Tyson have lost ALL credibility and Talk sport are too much on the fence. The only thing that’s big about the circus act is how much of a scam this whole thing is. I hope it doesn’t make a profit.
“Tyson Fury will given an offer to fight in December”- Usyks Dad Alex Krassyuk 😫
You know your boxer has no credibility left when you have to defend him by saying he's a successful author and Netflix star. Such great boxing achievements those. It's like trying to say how good a boxer George Foreman was because of his grill.
i bet we’re more likely to see Fury vs Usyk than aj vs wilder
aj @ wilder have agreed personal terms though
@@thereal1006course they have buddy, we were told the same thing 5 years ago
@@thereal1006 😂😂
100% whenever you need a job done properly there’s only 1 man on these shores who can go and get the job done. He’s proven it
@@thereal1006Eggie Hearn got complacent and thought the Saudi money was always going to be there, the Saudis have given up on that fight.
How many Tik Tok people are buying PPV? 🤣🤣
I thought the same …. loads of Chinese teenagers are gonna pay $100 for this PPV.
@@apuestasfutbol is this sarcasm? No teenagers are buying this, they will just illegally stream it. The feeling in MMA forums is that they aren't interested in this, we have seen this story before, MMA guy loses in boxing. Got it. I don't think this going to do nearly what they think it is and if they got 75 million tied up in the main event alone, they have a big hill to climb is they want to make money. Just from my own perspective, I have never met or chatted with anyone who wants to watch this debacle.
@@jayschultz202 Yes it is sarcasm 😂🤨
@@apuestasfutbol 🤣
its a fight that the ufc fans want to see not so much the boxing fans
This is a joke. Around and around, we go. Not only should Fury be embarrassed, but the WBC. Ali vs. Frazier, Frazier vs. Foreman Tyson vs. Burbick. , a million fights I could name that I'd rather watch than Tyson Fury. And Jim White, the posh guy, still invites Warren on their podcast and pretend they give him a hard time. Crooks the lot of them and should be embarrassed to call themselves leaders in boxing
“ Joshua/Wilder is locked in for December” - Barry Hearns 45 year old son.
Promoter lover
Z388Z Z388Z6 Alex Belotti Notoriousb Dimitry Bashov Bowjana Huw Edwards DanielCrawford are all the same person game changed
“The road to undisputed? Always been some other little bitches dream. When have I said I want undisputed???”
Luke Fury - Last week
Why the WBC haven't stripped the belt of Fury is alarming.
He can't fight Joshua because he's "locked in" to fight Wilder in December, Kooogs! 😂😂
Here he is promoter lover
Z388Z Z388Z6 Alex Belotti Notoriousb Dimitry Bashov Bowjana Huw Edwards DanielCrawford are all the same person game changed
“Del boys a warm up for usyk in Feb “ ur direct quote edit Alex and “it’s a 50/50 spilt easy fight to make “ warren direct quote talking about usyk 🤣🤣 game changer exhibition rematch clause 🤣🤣
Tyson Fury wins again 😎
the big fight in boxing has been getting the backing of Saudi..
Usyk, Wilder & Joshua just shit out of luck 🍀 coz skill challenge has been over powered by they Saudi’s that are now backing Fury .. Lol ..
another reason why Usyk & Joshua should of signed Fury’s offered contracts in the summer
They have both shit out. .
And Usyk now has to get past Hrgovic
Shouldn’t of even got past DDD ..
Fury wants the money now
So get check books out if you want it that bad ..
Imagine if Joshua was still champion and decided to fight Ngannou. Talksport would be doing overtime pulling it to bits. Fury should be stripped of his belts. Why isn’t that mentioned to Uncle Frank?!
There are two ways of looking at this. Its Fury ducking a title fight or the WBC have messed up by not mandating a challenger. Fury next fight has to be to defend his title against a top 5 WBC ranked fighter.
I wish Frank would stop describing Ngannou as the best in is discipline…he’s nothing like the best. He ran from the UFC rather than defend his title against Jon Jones who would have torn him to pieces.
GRILL…. More like PANDERING. If Eddie Hearn was doing this they would not let him get a word in.
The more people keep confirming fury as the best of this generation without him having to prove it the longer this will go on
Bricktop needs to be honest. Fury is taking the bum fights when Usyk has to do mandatory fights. Fury doesn't have any mandatory fights so he keep his belt while Usyk does all the work. He's hoping Usyk will slip up so Fury can step in and take the easy undisputed option.
Warren doesn’t care one jot about boxing, it’s all about money and undermining matchroom. As for Fury, he’s got all the bravado but is afraid to face Usyk.
Fury saying he’s done everything wot a joke his record apart from an old klitschcoe and wilder is horrendous he’s a joke and a ducker one of worst champions in years
Is there anybody spencer wouldn’t suck up to 😂
Frank and Fury are like Laurel and Hardy. Why even have them on the show, you’re just promoting their scams!
This fury talk is so boring. Boxing need to get rid of warren, fury and start again...... this is beyond a joke. His logic is that no one wants to fight him, which is stupid