The Truth About Night Vision | Colion Noir Podcast #11
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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I speak with Charles “CHIP” Lanskey about all things night vision. More specifically, all the questions someone who is just getting into Night vision would ask if they had a chance to talk to someone as knowledgeable on the subject as CHIP is.
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I like how Colion conducted himself during this podcast. He was there to learn and acquire information and share his knowledge with the masses. He didn't act like a know-it-all like most.
100% agree he did really well, he let the guest expert be the expert he actually is in day to day life
Honey you want to be protected? I gotta spend 8K
Hahaha I'm thinking the same thing!
Trust me. It works.
If You like to drive a nice car you're going to spend money on that protecting yourself. It's a investment. There's many ways to get the products that you need. Just keep watching all his videos and watch other videos.
Colion after seeing the price of nightvision: **slams 25 ads into an hour long video**
You need to get adblock plus for your browser. Its free and no more ads.
Those aren't his ads
Let me know where to find L3 24UA lol
😂 cant blame him.
@@laturista1000
Being a millionaire would not excuse anyone from being frugal.
It's just as important in my opinion, and one would want to still make sure they are not overspending.
He speaks the truth. Over the last 8 years, I have lost around 1500 birds to varmints around my place. Fathers day saw all my kids & wife chip in and get me a ATN Thor 4 scope.
First week saw 5 fox's, 4 coyotes a fisher and 13 raccoons go down and there has not been a week that goes by that I don't get a shot off at somthing. The night is nolonger their friend.
Awesome, you own the night
Awesome. Keeping money in your pocket is always good
Night vision and thermals are legitimate investments for rural citizens and the first time i went coyote hunting with just a pvs 14 and a red dot i was able to get a coyote, my buddy with a thermal got one, and my other buddy got the biggest raccoon id ever seen all in the same night. Not to mention the second amendment preparedness it gives you
sounds like you need a better fence
how refreshing to listen to someone who actually understands I2.
What’s I2- iodine ??
@@jonduncansakurawallknifegarden image intensification
I am a NVG Technician with USAF. This dude is the real deal.
What's the best brand name for under $3000 for single tube 🤔?????
@@cultleader3572 the L3 Harris is a really great choice, along with Elbit or even Litton. L3 are usual options for milspec
@@cultleader3572 I got my Gen 3 PVS-14 with an Elbit white phosphor tube for 2600 during a black friday sale. It has a minor blem which is why the price was reduced, but I don't even notice it when out hiking. Got mine from Steele Industries and hand-selected the tube, not a bad deal if you ask me.
I love how youtube demonetizes shooters pages but throws ads in every 3 minutes. Bullshit. But great video Noir, thanks for the content.
Strategically placed in the middle of critical points in conversation to throw of your politically sensitive learning
There is an app for that....just saying....
Ublock plus Adblocker extension if you are running chrome. I still get the white screen with the skip ad box that i have to click on at the start of a shit tonne of videos...but that's it. I literally have not seen an ad on youtube for over 4 years. Highly recommend! youl'l never look back.
Yes Some Know Is As Big Tech War Against America.
I'm just mad that NVGs don't make the splinter cell sound
Lol
No bravo six going dark?
A man of culture I see
I've never forgiven Ubisoft for not creating another splinter cell. It's been 7 years! 😭
Some of them do
Repeal the NFA!
And the FDA (at least deregulation of IR lasers)
I met Chip at the first "friends of Pat", he sat down, said hi, conversed about background and when we trained with Pat Rogers. Very friendly and personable regardless of the fact we were just regular guys. He treated us as good as the ninjas that were all over the event.
This was a great event. It doesn't get better than Chip and all of the guys at TNVC. It doesn't get more real than the stuff that "Roland" was teaching after the sun went down.
Let be honest the best thing about night vision is looking at the stars ✨
Agreed, I looked up in Iraq and I was like damn, I never knew it was this many stars, got yelled at and told to pay attention lol
Or walking the dog in pitch black, checking on the kids at night without turning on a light, taking out the trash, driving in black out, I use mine for basically everything night related
@@huntersloan4042 driving? I thought they could not be used through glass?
@@7.3obsobsessed31 night vision can be used through glass, it's thermal that can't.
I've seen some super strange shit in the sky with my nvg. Like X-files type shit. No bs.
Great interview with Chip. This guy knows his stuff, have him on again.
This has been one of the most interesting conversations I’ve heard in a while. This guy is extremely knowledgeable. Good interview
The truth: Anything good is horribly expensive 😥
Lol...yes.
Ruger-57 😇
A quality entry grade PVS14 is like 2500-3000 right now
@@TacticalBeard That's "entry grade?" 3 grand is 3 grand, not many of us have that kind of change lying around that we can afford to drop on something we hope we never need.
@@TacticalBeard which is a lot of money
For shooting, I can run a single tube on my non-dominant eye and use my red dot normally through my dominant eye. Since I’m used to shooting with both eyes open and learned to shoot on illuminated scopes with small eye boxes, my brain processes both pictures and lays them over one another without issues. My feeling is anyone can train themselves to take two pictures from two eyes and make them work together with enough practice.
That’s how you can get away with using a 600 dollar thermal monocular over a 2500 dollar tube.
I just learned more about night vision in one hour than i have ever known. Excellent info.
Have you seen the Trex videos? They’re also pretty informative
@@knndyskful Ill check them out, thanks!
Chip is an awesome guy and one of the most knowledgeable gents we have on this subject, for sure. I dealt with him a couple of times when he was with TNVC- a consummate professional. So is Teddy!! I ended up saving my pennies for an unfilmed white phos PVS-14 from TNVC because that’s all I could afford lol. That plus ancillary equipment= easily 5 grand folks 😬. And I ain’t rich but buy once cry once I say 😉😎
Pro tip: It never occurred to me me NOT to store my NVG in a Pelican case.
Thanks guys! This was really, really good. I just attended my gun club’s night shoot and got turned onto white phosphor for the first time. I also appreciated the discussion around shooting passive, which is why I’m happy I went with the Eotech EXPS3 which is NV compatible.
I've seen a lot of other "intro to nightvision" videos...this is one of the best.
He goes into a lot of detail but keeps it simple and understandable at the same time
Listening to Noir complaining about pricing while driving a G wagon and has no kids 🤔
That's his choice... no kids no wife = money in the bank...
@@bustersmith5569 exactly. My point.
@@shaldeman11 🤔
@@shaldeman11 there is alot of people like you out there.....
@@bustersmith5569 yes, educated gunfighters with the right priorities.
If you own 30+ guns and then complain about the price of night vision. The community will tell you your priorities are out of whack.
27:50 Yep, best way to check if your TV remote is working... Point it at the camera on your phone (obviously with the camera app on like you're gonna take a picture) and hit a button. If the remote is working, you will see the IR LED on the remote light up on the phone screen (usually like a violet color).
I saw zero ads during this video
personally I think you should revisit this topic because N.V. and thermal optic has come innovatively a very long way in the last 2 years A long way.. it would be nice to see this content upated
To be honest, digital has even caught up a bit. Got to try out the Opsin recently and was pretty blown away by how amazing it was. I own a WP pvs14, but I'm thinking of grabbing a legit digital unit soon. Pvs-69s are not that bad either 😉
@@JackTavern629 What's the best monocular under $3800?
I really liked this interview. Colion is exactly how I was not that long ago and this was a really good interview for beginners. I love the way he asked questions, they were so typical for an novice.
the explanation as to the manufacturing process and how they actually work was very interesting.
I use a PVS-14 3+ WP and a FLIR Breach on a mod armory mount. so far I really like this set up
For a Poor-Mans NV setup do the following like I did. (Civilian, so outside of something wild happening this is more than sufficient for hunting, etc. NOT For "Hardcore Use" )
1. Helmet - Shred Ready Tactical Rescue Helmet- basic bump helmet with nvg shroud - $80
2. Sionyx Aurora Sport monocular - can be had on sale for ~$400. Color IR night vision with some latency and less FOV and low battery life, but in a pinch should work ok.
3. Norotos Mount can be had on ebay for like ~$60 or less.
4. Lionsgear Adapter for Sionyx Aurora $120
5. For a weapon mounted IR illuminator and laser combo, a PEQ or similar is very pricy, but Russia has you covered with a 2IKS+Klesh IR illum+laser combo for $300. Get from Ivan Tactical, it takes some time to get thru customs, but it works great.
All in I have less than $1k into a basic starter setup. I get full color NV with a zeroed laser and a decent illuminator. Now is this equivalent to anything that uses gen 2+ or 3 intensifier. Nope! If you want great equipment you'll have to drop some serious cash. But again, i'm just a civilian who's primary purpose for this might be hunting, and will likely and hopefully never have to use this against something that shoots back. I'm more than happy with this setup, its not streamlined or "battle proven" but it seems to work for my purpose. and it might for you too.
Great info......tnx
I still personally think the pvs14 is the reliable option for cheapskates like me even tho it can go for 2k
I got the Aurora white one love it getting the black one for gps
I just bought an ATN X-Sight 4K for my coyote rifle. $500, and it comes with a ton of other features besides day/night capabilities, most notably a ballistic calculator that can account for drop and wind both. All you need is a good IR illuminator and you can see out to 300 yards or more in total darkness. It even comes with a decent one.
Edit: They don't seem to be mentioning near-IR digital gear at all. That's the black & white stuff you get in good digital cameras and the X-Sight I have. You can get stuff like that for $250 or even less, and they're pretty decent. They're better and cheaper than Gen1+ and some Gen2 image intensifiers.
@joshypoo79 Uh, no shit? It doesn't matter if you have NV or not, youKre going to lose to the feds. Water is wet and fire is hot.
That’s great information about the pelican case I had no idea about the moisture and thanks for all the rest of the info about the night vision
Out comes the rifles thanks guys
I remember when I got to use nvgs back in the early 90’s. Our patrols or infills and/or exfills we had the point man and the rear guard with nvgs and the rest of us followed the patrol caps of the soldiers in front of us. The only thing that slowed us down was fog. That was fun as we ran through the woods at night.
Colin, I dropped 9 grand on Gen3, 4x scope, the extra was for a top tier tube, with the data sheet.,in 2006 and it’s still top notch….
I dropped 5 grand on Pulsar Thermal… Best thing ever to find a lost cat, or hunting… Or Bee removals out of houses. Pulsar !!!
This was good stuff man, please have this dude back on for a round two.
Finally a video with great audio quality
this is great timing.
i bought pvs 14 bundle about 3 months ago, and i have training lined up soon with it. i learned allot before, and this video both confirms, and adds to it.
thank you so much.
I love the riser talk. With my Primary Arms ACSS Raptor I have the lever mount that puts the center of the optic 1.5 inches above the bore. I added a 1 inch riser to keep me more upright, and easier to wear ear pro and other gear. For some reason people in these gun groups don't understand it, and some really like to tell me their opinion of my set up
Worth the squeeze. Buy once cry once.
White Phosphorus is the sh*t but you'll be spending at the very least $10-15k...but price should not matter when it comes to larping in your basement and fighting in nerf wars.
Lol facts 🤣 you can get a great pvs14 white phosphor for $3000 though.
@@cfl4286 Lol...true.
@@Knight_of_the_Old_Code you can get new rnvgs and dtnvgs for 5600-6500
@@goopgear Nice
Wow! Lots of great info! Thanks for taking time on this! 🇺🇸👍 I also like Colins expensive audio makers hangin on the wall behind him! 😜 I LOVE ALL MY Audio devices too! Some got lost in a recent boat accident too....
Thank You for touching on this. I’m in Texas. Hey Colion , my neighbor. Yes We have soo many coyotes that are taking down new born calves. We have hogs but not in an every night problem but it will! Also please keep Us up to date on Your use of the new toy. Thank You!
46:18 throws out the chupacabra, no one bats an eye.
My sons pooled their resources together and purchased a night vision scope for me and gave it to me on Fathers Day. I've mounted it on both an AR and my 7mm-08 magazine fed rifle. I also have a rangefinder that links to the scope, which makes shooting a little like a game. I enter a little information (wind speed) and it provides a shooting solution. And does it in less than a second.
It's great for daylight or night. It came with an IR "flashlight" but it's a little weak. A stronger one is my next purchase.
Being in Utah, I need to look up the class Colion came for...
And Colion said he's fallen down the rabbit hole. I think someone pushed him.
Stay away from shading, edge glow, flickering and emission points. These are considered serious malfunctions if you're looking at new or used. AKA material detects
Would be nice if there were a circuit timer on the tube like DSLR camera sensors do. You buy a used camera, you can easily see how many times the shutter has clicked.
Awesome interview. Have pvs14 and thermal. Best purchase so far. 👍🏻
Im glad I got mine when I did. I paid 4k for mine, 2 yrs ago. and couldn't be happier with it. Then another 1500 for my eotech peq 15. Night vision aint cheap, but it's worth it. I'm glad they touched on taking the batteries out. I didn't and had to send it back to the manufacturer to have the spring cleaned. NEVER leave a battery in anything you don't use daily.
Colion, thank you for this video! Your guest threw out a TON of knowledge. And, your questions list was well prepared! Awesome! 😎👍🏻
Night vision (image intensification) has an expiration date/life cycle. NVG/NVD require maintenance to recharge and/or replace the photocathode. They are also susceptible to damage from bright/daylight. Thermals are a sensitive camcorder.
Gen 3s have over 10,000 hours of use, most of us will be fine with that
Man I am glad I checked the battery in my optic, sure enough it had gotten corroded, wow, that was in eye opener, thanks for the knowledge!!
That was a badazz interview. Way to go Chip! Thank you sir!
Chip looks like a call of duty character
Woods
Chip IS a call of duty character. Lol.
I started off with not as much money and bought a Gen 2+ monocular (which is tremendously better than what I had in the 101st Airborne in the 80’s which was NADA, CO had the only device in the company) and it’s a surprisingly good performer, especially with my MRO red dots and the mounts allowing me to mount to any rifle it’s rated to handle.
Yes. night vision gets expensive quick! But if you have the money it's definitely worth it.
Outstanding interview. Thank you Colion.
The truth:
*its not like video games*
What is?
The truth part 2.
It’s better than the video games
The truth:
Formatting a post like this is an asshole move!
No, it's better. Literally infinite FPS.
I think I'm just going to get a bright ass flash light lol
Exactly!! Besides, everything is gonna be on fire anyway, there'll be plenty of light.
Yeah, paint yourself white and red in a ring pattern too while you are at it.
@@Barskor1 it's called the element of surprise my bright ass light going to blind tf out of em
@@tatmanmyownbossdannydraco go with an infrared light burn the tubes of the enemy’s night vision 😈
@@tatmanmyownbossdannydraco IRC there is a flashlight so powerful it can burn paper held in front of it so totally doable, Click AHGHH! and pop pop.
He actually talked pretty candidly about the limitations and down-sides. That's pretty rare. This was a good public service, CN. The physical conditioning, training, and costs of TACTICAL NV are cost prohibitive. The chronic neck injuries are almost unavoidable. The presbyopia sets in early and stronger. Nobody talks about this stuff, but everybody wants to "see in the dark." Hints for civilians: a chem light kicks out very useful ambient light when tossed into a dark room, the back yard, etc. They're $1 each and light as a feather. P.S. Yes, they make IR chem lights. They cost more than $1 each. You know how to defeat state of the art NV? Light switches and big fires. Work every time.
Id im having to defeat night vision, its going to be with lead.js
I love Unity Tactical Fast Risers, especially wit the built in rear iron
Thanks for doing the testing. Gives us a starting point.
24:50
Other direction. Above normal human vision is IR, below it is UV. The normal vision range is 400-700nm. Post 700nm is the IR range, below 400nm is the UV range.
This guy is amazing, good channel guy too.
If one can get a system that has both thermal and white phosphorus imaging for identifying then that would definitely be the way to go. Follow the acronym DIDD Detect, Identify(id) Decide. Using thermal for detection, spot target, switch to imaging for ID, decide friend or foe.
Thanks very much for info on night vision goggles. Very interesting.Very detailed from detection+ intensification to red lasers only you can see to white phosphorus. I'm like you Colin think I'd need help buying one with fuel tubes but the training and care for such advance night vision is very interesting.
Love your work! 🤙🏼🇺🇸
I always struggled with NOD's when I was in. It's so hard figuring out depth of perception and identifying things. Besides that, they're fun to play with.
Excellent interview. I learned a lot. Thank you.
I want dual tubes and I’m in the market now for an Nvg set but mannnnn I keep coming back to the pvs14. Especially for the price. I had so much time under 14s in the army, been working with SF ODAs I’m Afghanistan, would drive at night with them, get into fights with them, I got so used to them I feel like dual tubes would be a sweet upgrade but paying more than double the price for a small performance gain.
Why don’t you just buy 2 pvs14?
@@Blackowl44 I purchased a Nocturn Industries Tanto given its small formfactor and weight compared to the traditional PVS14 housing, im saving up right now to buy a second one and then im going to bridge them. Seems like a better idea in my scenario because I have friends that will just never spend the money on NODs (but will spend 2 grand on their 5th handgun...i dont get it) So I can always take one off and hand it off to someone else
Wow.. The most informative nightvis video on the whole internet Thank you
Faaaahk I just checked out the PVS-14 from NVD (Night Vision Devices) & their TOL (Top of line) is roughly 4500$!!!!!
Low end ... 2800$!
Goddammmmm
Good nods aren’t cheap, and cheap nods aren’t good :/
I gotta budget and set aside money for the next 2 yrs to buy nvg’s
That's what I said!
Awesome info about night vision types. Great show!!!!???
I believe that Thermal doesn't show through glass, but light magnifiers do.
I see everything with my thermals, from deer to rabbits. I let my dogs run loose on my property and I can see them clearly on 'white hot' without an issue. Now walking with thermals, watch out for the stump, you will break an ankle with thermals that arent hybrids.
But yeah, there a lot of things that can defeat thermals.
@@Kevinj36541 deer are very easy to see if you have even mediocre IR. Look up some YT videos if you dont believe me.
The one animal i cant see is OWLS
Correct, thermal will not show through glass unless someone caused a temperature change, ie, breathing while hiding behind, or touching.
Super informative
This was a super helpful and informative interview. Thanks!
Great interview. Thanks for all your work.
Bro wtf, I've watched almost 6 hours of nvg videos today and now you drop this.
46:11 the way it was said so nonchalant.. 😂
Excellent show. Very informative and understandable.
Chip is one badass and awesome dude..
I had some brief training with it in 1979. (thanks to a rich uncle) A lot has changed since then. I still have too many priorities ahead of this, but it's still on my list. Just going to be a few years.
How many years have you been saying a few more years though? I know There's so much on my list and I'm adding more every day lol. It's expensive but its an irreplaceable asset.
@@alexduke5402 actually, it was a recent addition to the list, and the priorities ahead of it are real priorities. Nuff said.
@@gfodale I just got mine in. It's incredible! I'm taking it hog hunting tomorrow night. I hope you get all your things lined up!
Image intensifiers are half the cost, and easy to destroy if you expose it to daylight.
Thermal scopes are great at seeing animals in the dark and from light into darker areas like during the day ...but don't see through glass.
50 years ago my "night vision" was an 8x50 set of glasses (binoculars). They actually worked very well with enough ambient light.
44:47 This is why SWIR is probably the future of night vision. The spectral response for uncooled InGaAs Short Wave Infrared Cameras sits around 700nm to 1400nm. This is covering the gap between Intensifier tubes which go up to 900+ nm and thermal which sits between 8000nm and 14000nm. SWIR cameras can see a completely different spectrum to NV even reaching into thermal territory with features like seeing through smoke, haze and fog while still being able to look through glass unlike a thermal device because it still works with reflected light rather than emitted heat
Some great advice and information on many subjects.
Its more then just a monocular. To be effective with the NVGs hours and days of training. Thousands of rounds, suppressor, then IR laser. A $3000 PVS 14 will end up being $7000-9000 at the end to be effective.
Thank you for your service sir.
Great guest Colion
Also.... Where do you hog hunt?? I want to look into trying it sometime! Thank you bro keep fighting for 2A and giving others a good image of minority 2A supporters. Not all of us are want to be thugs and gangsters 😪
Best IR Devices from Cheapest L3 peq-15 $1500 to expensive mawl-c1, wilcox raid-x, L3 ngal, Perst 2 are $3500. Then NVGs $3-5k for a mono, $12k for duals, top tier quads $20K PNVG AN/AVS 10 and $40k L3Harris GPNVG.
And NODs are most effective (out far) detecting movement.. as stated, got to get a lot closer to PID. I’ve had experience with slow movements getting extremely close to someone with PVS 14s without being detected
Great info.
Just learned a lot in 60 minutes
My life in regards to my set up consists of replacement of batteries which is like a monthly bill as well 😂
Lights, lasers, optics, ear pro, etc if you train enough powering that stuff is costly then range cost bullets ohhh boy
Thank you for this video Colion.
Very informative! I know absolutely nothing but info is always nice.
Thank you for this video.
Great content!
wow what a great video thanks this helped a lot..keep up the great videos.
One of the best channels on UA-cam!
Best night vision video by far Tks👍
I used the 2nd generation of NVGs during Desert Storm, and those things were a pain in the ass to use. They were unwieldy since mounting options was limited to one; clunky straps. Washout was terrible with those too. We had to sign for them, and they were $14K if I remember correctly.
EDIT: Rather than "image intensification", I think it's more accurate to say "light refracting" since that's literally what they do.
To refract light is to change the direction of light using materials with different index of refraction values or different shapes (radial curvature of a lense).
Optical tools such as contact lenses, glasses, static zoom or variable zoom optics, even your eyeballs are all objects that refract light.
However refraction does nothing to *amplify or intensify* an image.
Within a NVD the refraction takes place only to preprocess the incoming image for the image intensifier tube and postprocess the amplified image for our eyeballs.
So to say that NVDs are light refractors is inaccurate and insufficent in terms of their function even though it uses refraction in the process.
@@thegadfly1951 Yeah. It was my understanding that how they worked was they refracted light to a focal point in the NVGs, which has the effect of amplification because the light is being gathered. Your eyes can perceive small amounts of light because of refraction.
@@korndogz69 You may have confused image intensification with lighting concepts such as Lumen and Lux using refractions.
Its much easier to understand NVDs in terms of energy and energy conversions.
That is also not necessarily the case. In your eyes the lense is used to refract the image on to your retina. Your retina is what converts photons into chemical energy that your brain can interpret.
Its not intensity but clarity of the image that refraction provides.
Basically nearsightedness and farsightedness is due to the image converging being behind the retina and in front of the retina respectively due to oblong shape of the eye. (genetics)
Astigmatism is due to irregularities in the lense that does not allow a cohesive image to converge properly onto the retina.
@@thegadfly1951 Ah I see (no pun intended)! That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!
thanks for the info of the cases and moisture
BWAHAHA!!! 46:17 Deadpan like a BOSS!!
Chip: "What, What is it?"
Colion: "Chubacabra".
😂
Very good info. now just need some cash
This is such an awesome channel.
Anyone here have experience with US Night Vision? I kind of been eyeballing their PVS 14’s but I got time before I’m done saving 💰
They are excellent. Extremely helpful. I was able to call them and have a special order of 2 gen 3 white phosphor tubes with the same 2500 FOM rating without them charging me extra for that special order. They were very helpful and got my order to me fast. Like within 10 days I had both tubes. Of course these are expensive tubes but well worth it. I was blown away at the quality. Im currently active duty military and both tubes were better than anything I've ever used while deployed.
@@s-p-a-c-e-man5909 The white phosphor gen 3 is actually the one I wanna start with. I’ve experienced the PVS 14 Green phosphor when I was in the Corps. I can only imagine these will be a lot better. Thanks for your response!
Night vision has some advantages and thermal has its advantages. There disadvantages are clear if you served in the military. Civilian models are the same as military expensive. You pay to play in the dark! I prefer open sights and low power light. Some of my longest shots in military were with no light .