Shiloh Rifle from Foundry to Finish
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Watch as we take you through the entire build process for one of our Legendary Shiloh Sharps Black Powder Rifles. Every piece of a Shiloh Rifle is built from scratch including the metal and wood. We're proud of the fact that we use only local sources making this a 100% American Made product right here in Big Timber, Montana where the west is still alive! Our dedicated, amazing staff is what helps makes these rifles of the highest quality.
As an Englishman it made me feel rather nostalgic watching this weapon being lovingly put together. To own a Sharps rifle is something i can only dream of . Its fame i knew of long before Quigly Brought it down under to my Aussie cousins. Thank you for allowing me to see the work that goes into making this rifles legacy live on. A real work of Art i shall say no more the Rifle does it better than any words i could write here.
Well stated old boy, pip, pip cheerio and all that sort of rut. Did I say that correctly? No offense meant; I enjoyed reading your post very much, it was sincerely written.
@@dukeman7595 good enough old boy.. 🤣
Why can't you own a Sharps rifle? I thought single-shot hunting rifles were allowed in England.
@@afridgetoofar1818 we had a mass shooting at a primary school children were killed and a ban was introduced on guns . Farmers and pest control can legally own them but private ownership on hand guns and rifles were changed it's very hard to get a FAC in the uk now.
@@SNATCHYDBS Man, private gun ownership is truly an American thing these days.
I won the rifle that was donated in 1991 for a prize in the Coors Match. I would like to thank Mr. Droidge again as well as all the rest of the emplo. The craftsmanship in Big Timber in unrivalled!!!
Anybody who works in that facility is lucky as hell!
Anybody that gets to OWN and use one is the lucky one.
I hope they do use what they have and not just sit with it at home and slobber on it.
I'd dearly love to have one and use the heck out of it
Beautifully crafted weapon, these folks are not factory workers, they are artisans.
I won the 1874 in 45-70 given at the 1991 Coors Match. I personally Thanked Mr. Wolf. I'd like to publicly Thank him now and the rest of the Company's personnel. So thank you for making such a fine rifle and for donating such an outstanding prize for the shooting match I won mine at and any others given to competitive shooting sports. I hope this finds Mr Wolfgang in good health.
Wolf, unfortunately passed a number of years ago.
"Said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." Greatest line in any movie considering its context. RIP Alan Rickman.
you are right I like that one and bords don't hit back. by bruce lee
I loved that movie 'Quigley Down Under'. I did hear that Alan Rickman had passed away sometime after he was in the movie as the ranch owner.
Love seeing qualified, competent women on the tools. You know every one of those barrels are flawless.
When I was working as a stock finisher with Cooper Arms, we visited the place. As with Cooper, it was amazing to see such fine work come out of small buildings. :)
I ordered mine in 2004, a 45.110 Quigley model, folks on the range here in England stop what they are doing just to watch the rifle go off, have won a few competitions with it too, as you Americans say, it's a keeper, great company to deal with with every aspect of the ordering process a pleasure to own.
Lee Marsh
Luck man!
Maybe someday I’ll get one, I should be so lucky!
Enjoy that fine tool.
Sharps: When you absolutely positively have to shoot something from two towns away
Lee Marsh Aa
Glad to hear you like it , Big Timber Montana is Right Down the Rd. From me. I own one myself and shoot as often as I can on the Ranch here in Roundup Montana. I favor the 45-70 because it’s a Common Round in this Country. I reload so Brass is cheap and 1000 yard Target is very practical. Good Luck
If it was purchased in England, did it have to be proofed before sale?
This is an exceptional craftsmanship. I never shot any of their rifles but I can see they are build to hit bullseye and to last for decades.
I'm trying to imagine all these steps being done by hand, without electricity and not very good lighting in the 1860s. Pretty amazing.
impressive to see something (anything at all) made from one end to the other in the one shop these days
Trevor Parnell
Absolutely!
That’s the way I like to see it.
But they skipped about 1000 steps. It would also be cool to see how it was done back before cnc machining technology. They're not really hand made anymore.
So the forged the cold roll mill stock for their rifles is a local product? Don't think as I have not been able to find a steel mill in Big Timber, Montana my friend. Would have been much more impressive if they formed their own barrels in the traditional manner, which takes a lot of skill and time. Can't say they don't make good replicates with modern CNC machinery, but their claim is being stretched just a bit.
Want one built from raw iron ore? Expect them to cost $20k...minimum.
It's important to note that the Ruger number one single shot is investment cast too. The Ruger number one is chambered for some of the most powerful magnum cartridges. Modern investment casting technology provides a very strong action.
I have a ruger .41 magnum blakhawk. It my favorite out of everything ive ever shot.
Is it the lost wax method?
The ruger #1 is an inferior single shot action. It has an internal hammer that falls as far as the 1874 does . Without being so astheticly pleasing.
@@waymanjohnson3515 thanks, jackwagon.
@@kevinkrause67. I have that same Ruger. After a couple of sessions I decided it was a bit powerful for recreational shooting. Keep it by my bed. If it hurts that much to shoot it’s got to have a good effect on the other end
A name above other names. A quality above other qualities. A history that seems to be born again and again. Thank you for this honor.
Wow! Amazing to see the process, and so many seasoned machines used. The music is the perfect touch! Thank you.
I wish I could afford one. They look like they are an awesome company of quality and perfection. I also like that they used the music from the 'Quigley Down Under' movie. I was impressed by the long range accuracy of the Sharps rifle.
You can Afford One! You simply Have to make it a Priority in your financial life.
Stop spending money on stuff you dont care about. I got rid of my television and saved $ 900 dollars a year.
Work extra Shifts and Save that money on Purpose. Live within your means. That alone will Change your life.
Get rid of needless debt.
Remember Everything in life is Accumulative. Meaning if you if save a dollar every Day it doesn't sound like much. But if you Save a dollar a day for a Year you've just saved up $365.
You Can Afford it If You Really Want a Sharps Rifle. It All Starts With You!
Best Wishes! M.H.
@@mikehagan4320 I dropped cable TV around 2010 and went to Dish Network, I dropped that in 2016 when they bumped my favorite channels up to the next level. Haven't missed TV ever since as all my old favorite TV shows and cartoons are on UA-cam. I have landline phone and internet from AT&T. Still cheaper than cable or satellite TV service
I'm savin' my money for one of these! Pretty impressive the amount of craftsmanship that goes into these rifles. How did they ever do it 150 years ago? Now that would be some thing to see.
I'm going to have to visit this place one day. Absolutely stunning pieces of artwork in firearms.
Wow what a beautiful rifle I really enjoy the grace and lines of the old rifles. A tool as well as a work of art. Thank you for sharing this.
Probably working on mine now or very soon. Very nice seeing the process of these being made with great hand craftsmanship. Being a retired machinist, I can appreciate the beautiful finished rifle. Thank you Shiloh Sharps for keeping the tradition alive.
Finally owning one of these treasures has brought me back to this video. After years of waiting until I could afford one, it was worth it.
How long did you wait once you ordered it? Engraved? Fancy wood?
An excellent video, with a western soundtrack! A pleasure to watch skilled craftsmen and women make and assemble an iconic rifle. As an English man I am so envious.
Watching the CNC work and the automation beginning to end I couldn't imagine doing all this by hand in the 1800's...amazing.
The very definition of Craftsmen is it not. Skills that have now passed into history must have taken years to learn such skill and patience. 👍
Well that's true and not. in the 1870's a rifle would have been made 'mostly" by machinery as well. The catch being that a rifle factory would have had a great deal more machines than today. A machine, jig and operator for every possible operation. What once took an entire floor of machinery can now be down with just a few standard and cnc machines. Don't overlook the cost of labor in that era as well.
I dont care what ya say, great gun ,great movie great music i love to shoot , even spent 20 years in the brit army ..... and the really best bit i got paid to shoot
ragandoil Come on over, you will really enjoy it
More a piece of art than just a gun. Ordered mine in 1993 delivery in 1998. Only gun in collection my wife won't consider selling. Beautiful work.
ely336 - wtf? 5yrs waiting?........if you don't mind me asking how much did it cost? They look amazing and absolutely beautiful and 5yr payment plan make it more cost-effective?
Back in 1993 it was a 5 yr wait.. You could pay in front or wait and pay market price at delivery. I had some sights delivered to them in 1997 and they installed. They also made an extra fore end at no charge since the silver tip put gun over 12 lbs. Delivered with tax and several extras was around $2400.
- very nice, thank you. I prob should go ahead and pick mine out..
I can imagine the aromas in that factory would be wonderful, a pot pourri of wood, oils and laquers, metals and lubricants.
The making of the rifles was probably the best thing about this video combined with the music.
I never realized how much went into making this fine firearm, now I really want one!
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Have roamed the show room and they are definitely works of art from good honest hard working folks with talent. Also roamed the CVA plant 100yrds east of Shiloh both have excellent firearms but I really enjoy the Shiloh.
Agreed, even working walnut by hand is heavy going
Sharps rifles, the gun that made the west safe enough for Winchesters....
The first time I handled a Shiloh Sharps was about 1980, a 50/140. Instant love. Unfortunately not everyone can afford the real deal so until good fortune counts me in, I'll be wishing for my own 45/120 Sharps rifle. Great video too.
Finally l have the pleasure of aguiring a truly beautiful piece of American tradition. This is something I have dreamed of for a long time. And to actually find one. These are truly works of art. I'm so pleased to finally own this wonderful piece of history. Luv it...
Just bought myself one not too long ago and it came the other day so I brought it down to the range and I have to say if your able to get one, get one, hey are fantastic
I wish you guys would have done commentary along with the video Instead of the music
I was back home in MT last week and stopped by Shiloh in Big Timber. Finally pulled the trigger and ordered a Quigley in .45-110. Now the painful waiting process begins.
I’d give up my two unfired Thompson Center Hawken Cougars and ones in the box never been assembled for a Quigley replica. I’ve even got two copies of the movie ....lol
I carry one with me if I travel. I’ve got numerous vernier sights for my rifles too. Love a peep sight. It would be so easy to reload and a pleasure to shoot.
I was an expert in the Marine Corps in 69 where I learned how to use a peep sight. Loved them and long range shooting ever since and totally love the challenge that a rifle like that demands. They’re so well made and efficient.
The background music with the theme song is so perfectly suited to heighten the tour of the build process. Y’all have every reason to be proud of what you’re doing with all the professional craftsmanship employed to create such a beautiful piece in your Shiloh rifle.
I’m saving this video cause I love what you do with recreating this life long treasure. Tickled me to no end to see your video of the production. The only thing that would make it complete would be to have one.....guess all I can afford is to watch the movie again and your video and they’re a pleasure too.
A number of years ago I was hitchhiking in Montana and stopped at your store in Big Timber. Those are really beautiful rifles.
Each Sharps is $2,000.00 and up to whatever you want to pay and they are worth every penny.
You mean $4,000.00 now
Nice video... I have followed Shiloh...from afar! ...since the 1980's. Mike Venturino wrote a good article once about the history of Shiloh Sharps. Wonderful story about Wolfgang Droge and later the Bryan family. I feel kinda PROUD of you folks...American made, best quality in the world.
nice video...a bit more commentary on the finer details would have been nice
Nothing like one shot , one kill.
Great music. Great product. Great Country!
Got my Farmingdale Sharps upgraded to modern breech block there in 2015. Took me in right away no waiting. Fine people.
Ordered My Quigley Model 45/110 this December 2021 looking forward holding it in the future!
Super, und dann noch diese Musik 🎶 fühle mich fast wie auf der Jagd in Montana 💪💪💪👍💓💓💓 fasziniert durch und durch, mit Demut erfüllt 💓
narration rather than music would have been better.
I second that. Cool movie , watched it in the theater. But some narration of the process would have been nice.
I hope to order mine very soon. Hope to be able to enjoy it when it finally arrives..
I've actually been to the Shiloh Sharps factory I've seen their their show room and it's very impressive! They are located in Big Timber, Montana.
Thank you for composing this informative presentation. I am impressed with the fastidious care, and craftsmanship, devoted to your rifles. The heritage, which you incorporate, brings your creations alive. Best wishes to all your fine staff from Linslade, U.K.
I HAD THE GREAT HONOR AND PLEASURE OF FIRING ONE IN 1976. MY FRIEND THAT IS NOW PASSED RECEIVED IT AS AN INHERITANCE. HIM KNOWING MY INTERESTS AND LOVE OF FIREARMS LOOKED ME UP AS SOON AS HE RECEIVED IT, TO BOTH INSPECT IT FOR DEFECTS AND ACCURACY. THANK YOU RON AND MAY I SEE YOU AGAIN WHEN WE GET TO OUR FINAL DESTINATION, THE NEW JERUSALEM!
When I was there in 08 I asked how long of a wait for a rifle .The reply was one year and $ 2000 ..Wow! Beautiful rifles of yesteryear..There was a front office showcase of rifles and no tour...about 20 rifles to look at and hold.
Love watching that 19th century CNC equipment run.
gorgeous rifles! the Holland & Holland of American rifles!
I was expecting to see some time honored old school manufacturing techniques and the kind of elbow grease and effort that one expects would go into a scratch built rifle, thankfully a DMLS 3D printer was no where in sight
they arent 50,000 dollar english Purdys
Glad to see they are making the Cavalry Carbine again!!!!! Keep Up the Great Work!!!
I have personally toured their factory and believe me these rifles and castings are anything BUT inferior! These rifles are strong and safe to shoot anything load the .45-70 can handle. As for the rest, they are meant for blackpowder anyway.
Knowing nothing about the workings of metal manufacturing, the lack of narrative or subtitles left me utterly puzzled. I had hope to learn how barrels are made and these presenters have advanced my understanding not a whit.
it was to show how its made, not to show you how to make it, but yes it would have been nice to know some of the steps with a bit more info
Lock, stock and barrel. ;o) An American tradition that will endure the test of time for many decades to come.
I loved that they used the quigley down under sound track
Very nice rifles, love they build theirs from scratch. I would to own one
Those are nice looking rifles and the owners must be so proud of them once they have received and tried them out. I have a CVA muzzle loader in a .50 caliber version and got that gun when it was much cheaper to purchase from Bass Pro Shop out of Missouri. I love that gun, but don't hunt animals any longer, but every so often take them out for target practice.
I'd love to own one and use the heck out of it as intended. After a decade I doubt that it would still be as pretty as those beauties in the video.
Perfect soundtrack :) I'm sure that's the defacto theme song for the Sharps now after that movie. Nice watching the build process! It's also nice seeing U.S. ingenuity and quality still kicking after a century and a half. How many world changing inventions have originated in the U.S.? and that are still highly desired and appreciated after 150 years?
The music is nice (I love "Quigley") but it also would have been nice to have a narrator or text overlay to explain in more detail what's happening at each step. That said, it's fascinating and a little magical to see something so complicated (and historic) being made essentially by hand.
did we watch the same video? Just how much was done by hand? I saw lot of CNC machines, surface grinders, lathes, heavy machinery. the hand part was at the end...
@@AffordBindEquipment .....air grinders and air belt sanders may be "by hand" these days, but they used files and hand sanding....the Keller duplicator that cut the stocks is the hydraulic version that's about 60 years old...although Keller started in 1896 with developing a "panagraph" style duplicator for the tool & die industry they were picked up by Pratt & Whitney.
As a master toolmaker, I've used most the equipment in that shop with the exception of rifling barrels.
I agree, while the video showed what they were doing, it would have been nice to have a brief voice over explaining what the was actually happening. Many of us don't have a clue of what each step was.
bought a sporting rifle #1 back in the early 80's, used but perfect, 4 digit serial 45/70. paid $700! for once, my timing was right. shoots black and smokeless, cast bullets , very accurately.
That music...be still my heart.
Just saw this video enjoyed watching it will be adding a shiloh to my collection but it would have been nice if someone with a good clear voice would have narrated the video and explained the process and some background information would have been nice to instead of all the music
I was able to stop there on my cross country trip. Really enjoyed seeing the many rifles that you make. Will be placing an order for a rifle soon.
We are still waiting for the order for that sharps Shiloh rifle that you promised us 12 months ago or was it the usual BS .
there's Beauty in seeing such historic rifles still being made even if they are using more modern techniques or modern equipment,
though I was fancying a lever action in 4570 maybe a Sharps rifle would be pretty interesting too.
the gun that started the 4570.
No such thing as a bad day in Shiloh Sharps Country. The Wind blows most of the time in Big Timber but inside Shiloh Sharps. You can feel accuracy and talent at work.
Beautiful rifles, each a work of art,, I'd luv to have one! I hope they continue producing them for a long time.
God I love the music, I wish I could just shoot one of these guns in my life time or just take it on a hunt
Hopefully you would be hunting the greatest game of all instead of defenseless animals.
The music sounds like an Elmer Bernstein film score. It was great.
I liked the music, but I would have enjoyed a procedural narrative even more.
I believe this music is from the movie Jerimia Johnson with Robert Redford.
@@timothyhaskell8262 Quigley Down Under. Shiloh made the rifle for Tom Selleck
If you need to be told whats going on youre in the wrong place
I love the video-especially the usage of music scores that sounds VERY close to some you heard in later John Wayne westerns.
I was just watching Quigley Down Under, music was played throughout the movie. It starts off with this music.
Hadnt a clue what was going on...........glad to see a rifle at the finish!
My dream rifle. Unfortunately and rightly so they are too pricy for me ever to obtain one.
What master pieces they are!!!!
Now that’s real craftsmanship that’s hard to find.
Wish I could work there
LOVED this video got mine as a hand me down from my grandfather. Would'nt trade it for all the gold in Ft. Knox
There's gold in Fort Knox?
I have a high powered BB gun that I use to take down big game with. Just last week I bagged a 2-eared gopher. Fed my family for a week.
You people love your work and I can see the quality as well as the hounor you have for a quality product,god bless you people.
What I think about is the machines the gunsmiths had to build these rifles in 1860s thru the 1890s.
Hope these folks send Tom Sellick cards for Xmas & his birthday. Reportedly his movie has helped keep demand for their products up, the same way Clint Eastwood did for the Model 29 S & W.
It makes me really think of the craftsmanship they had to do back when they were first being made. I mean what did they do when they didn't have all the machines?
Interesting. The Quigley Down Under theme music added the perfect touch.
Thanks. I was just about to ask. :)
Idk if they used that song in Quigley or not,but that was from "Big Jake" ;)
Skilled people,a pleasure to watch,thanks for the opportunity to see how it's done
Makes you proud to see the "Made in the USA" stamping. Well done!
Folks, this is so neat! I dream of having one someday!
I can not wait for my build to be done.
The music is because the entire process of building the rifle is a trade secret including the various types of Metal Alloys used, fully annealed or partially annealed machining techniques, casting techniques, casting temps, casting cure process, Metal components hardening process & case hardening process, barrel forming, boring & lining process, machining speeds used, woodstock mating, bedding, finishing & adhesives used, lubricants used, tooling inserts used, QC process used and the final inspection details on the rifle are all considered as proprietary information . . . you know, trade secrets. This ain't no ballpeen hammer & a pinch of Skoal type of operation. No sir, despite them buildin' a Sharp's replica, this is some serious professional artsy kinda work; with a reputation to keep and protect. Real professor stuff goin' on in that barn . . . fur-sure!
What has music to do with their manufacturing secrets. About the most nonsensical statement I have ever heard. Anyone else buy this excuse? Anyone? Explain how music some how protects their processes and I will withdraw my comment.
No one asked them to reveal trade secrets. They did suggest explaining what was being shown in the documentary.
@@bpetnoi1472 Roll over Beethoven.
Excellence in product ,so rare !
People who watch these videos are more interested in the precise composition of the steel and the heat-treating and the tempering and the cutting than in all kinds of background music. Carbon content would not be a boring subject to the people who are here. Listening to "Paint Your Wagon" on LSD - not so much...:)
this is the ost for the movie quigley down under, they made the rifle for that movie
enjoyed the manufacturing and finishing process - LIKED and SUBSCRIBED.
I love to watch women doing skilled hads on work. They have a sensitivity that can only be admired.
and boobs
In my entire career I met 1 female in machining. And she was only viable in CNC. Like these women.
Go learn how to do this job on manual machines then we'll talk.
here we call it cooking.
Hads ?
Robert Evans. I worked as a toolmaker for 20 years, and anybody who couldn't run a manual lathe had zero chance of successfully running CNC machinery.
Man I would love one of these but they are pricey but the quality is amazing
The quality and care in the making of them makes them worth the price.
I'm planning on getting one. Custom order. With an extra 4" on the barrel. And lots of engraving.
Eins der schönsten Gewehre die jemals gebaut wurden 😍
Awesome and beautiful rifles. Thanks.
Beautiful. I have a dream to buy one some day.
Mine will be here in about 3 months!! Merry Christmas.
Great film, great music. Still prefer my Enfield pattern 1853 though. Don't trust these new fangled breech loading things.