I notice you didn't lubricate the paper patch (or I just missed it, I had the video playing while I was working) -- doesn't that lead to more erosion in the bore?
@@TheRedneckPreppy I do not lube the patch, as it will dampen the paper. I use a grease cookie under the bullet: www.patreon.com/posts/reloading-45-120-90692193
@@edgarburlyman738here in USA you can find both 45/70 and 45/90 ammo almost everywhere including Walmart with smokeless pounder and shoot them in my perisoli sharps every week
"If it can go through a car, and it can go through a 2,000 pound BISON, it can go through YOU! So, never pick a fight with a Buffalo Hunter"- Clint Smith.
I used to have an 1874 Sharps reproduction rifle manufactured specifically for smokeless powder, a 50-140 a full case of smokeless would net 2350 FPS and 8900 pound/feet of energy at the muzzle and a 3 shot 3 inch group at a ioo yards with a Barnes copper jacket pointed soft point @ 600 grains weight. I wanted a stopping rifle and that's what it is. I recently gave them away because I was no longer strong enough to shoot them I'm 70 years old.
The Sharps is such an iconic rifle. Mine is a Pedersoli as well, and it's probably my favorite gun. It's not the gun I shoot the most, but very few guns will give you that combined feel of handling a classic old rifle with a touch of modernity. The heavy hammer and the long octagonal barrel... it's really hard to beat. Single shot breech loaders are just fabulous, and the Sharps is the king of that category in my opinion.
Had a relative who shoots cowboy action and long range matches. Got to go with him to one to check out, was about 16. They got done with the long range match and were just shooting for fun. He had a sharps .45-120 and he let me shoot it. As a fan of Quigley Down Under I was excited to shoot a Sharps! And even though it beat the hell out of me, I still enjoyed shooting ir. I did manage a standing, offhand hit at 850 yards! Was definitely more luck than skill but I made the hit! Great video as always!
Very interesting. I too have read some of the disinterest in the 45-120 for accurate target shooting. Good to see you taking on the challenge. Thank you for the video!
We have 8 shoots a year dedicated for black powder with the "45" family. 45/70 - 45/120 with quite a number of competitors. 100 yds out to 1,000 yds+... Both Pistol and Rifle events. It's always great fun and the challenges fly back and forth on who can do what at what range!!!😊
Your reading of the comments reminded me of my old friend and shooting buddy. He had a m1895 Marlin in .45-70 of course. He once told me "watch this..." He put it against his hip and touched off a factory round. He winced at the shot, and said "Yow, that really hurt". He then proceeded to repeat the shot because he couldn't believe it hurt so much the first time! The memory makes me laugh even today.
That black powder rounds were big but low pressure.Todays 308 winchester got almost 1000 Joules more muzzle energy than Sharps black powder 50-90 catridge.Interesting.
I am not familiar with this cartridge. I've shot a 45-70 before but that 120 thing's a Cannon! I love it and I want one! Thanks for sharing and as always great video! Inspires me to really get into black powder shooting!
I have a T/C Contender Pistol 14" barrel 45/70 and I also t🎉ook a Martini-Henry action and barreled it with a 45/70 34" barrel with great results. At present I'm working on restoring an 1895 Winchester in 45/90 I recently bought in Montana.
Perhaps you only think you want one. A 45-70 can be loaded to velocities approaching .45 WIN Mag territory in a modern rifle. .45-120 is strictly a blackpowder case. It is far too voluminous to safely load ANY smokeless powder. Interestingly, it is virtually the same specifications as the British .450 Blackpowder Express. The former round becoming the .450 Nitro Express when loaded with smokeless. The Nitro ammo should only be used in rifles rated for Nitro ammo, NEVER in rifles rated for BPE (Blackpowder express). Therefore, there is no advantage to a 45-120 over a .45-70, unless you want the most power out of a Black powder load + easy reloading with a few simple hand tools in the field.
Great video! It needs to be said that the 45-120 was never a buffalo hunting cartridge. It was developed in 1878, but didn’t make it west by 1884, when the hunts were essentially over. The largest 45 caliber cartridge used for buffalo hunting was the 45-110.
Great video! The Sharps is indeed a thing of great beauty. Personally though, I would prefer the Werndl or Remington Rolling Block over it. I am wondering though, when it comes to ease of use, would you say the Sharps was easier to handle than the latter two or the other way around?
Having the 3 rifles in my cabinet, i don't think one is easier to handle than the other. but the Sharps and the Werndl definitely look safer then the Roller.
Fantastic, been waiting for a good analysis of the big .45 in a Sharps. I was able to shoot a Pope barreled, separate case, Muzzle loaded bullet Stevens 32-55 target rifle. I was doomed, to bad that i shot it real well. a lot to deal with as a 10 year old. My Grandfather and spirit guide was a Market Hunter, part time, selling ducks to the hotels in St. Louis, MO, USA. It was legal until 1936. He kept his live decoys thru the war until their young died when i was about 5 in 1948.He liked duck eggs for Breakfast. Fantastic wing shot i got his 10 ga and shot it with BP until a barrel cracked. it is an honored Wall hanger.
Howdy from Oklahoma. I picked me up one like it a few years ago in 50 - 2-1/2" & finally about ready to shoot it. Took longer than I imagined to find brass, molds & other necessities. I have always like the Sharps & all the history. Got to reading some western history & ran across Oklahoma marshal Bill Tilghman years back. His buffalo hunting days (his rifle originally a 40 cal sharps (SN# C53858), then re-barreled by sharps as a 50-90 or 2-1/2") & life as a marshal in Kansas & Oklahoma. He even had his "Big 50" at the Gray County war in Kansas. So when a 50-90 sharps (repo) became avalible, I had to pick it up. Love your channel & keep up the good work. -KLB
IIRC, the main reason for hunting so many bison was that their hides made more durable leather than cattle. Most of this leather went into making belts for factories - this was the era of factories having one or several very large steam engines driving an array of driveshafts in the factory, with big pulleys and leather belts to distribute power to individual machine tools in the factory. Buffalo leather belts lasted significantly longer than regular cattle leather, so factory operators preferred using them and created a lucrative market for buffalo hides.
Beautiful rifle - wish i had been able to shoot my godfather's 45-90 Sharps when he was still alive - but alas that's not possible now - i did get to shoot his .50 cal and .55 cal. Hawkins -
I love these long range Sharps rifles, the only reason I don't have one like this, I don't have a range locally to shoot it at. I saw one of those .45-120 Sharps rifles on the rack at our local gun shop, it sat for about a year before someone bought it. The problem where I am is that I am in the mountains and even our "flat lands" aren't very flat. The fields will have little grades and small dips in them, making it so that most shots are going to be 200 yards and that's about it. Even our blackpowder range where we compete only gets out to 200 yards, but, if I lived farther west, where ranges really open up, I would be more than willing to shoot a .45-120, because it's a great cartridge.
I fired an old Sharps once that was chambered in 45-136. It was a custom made Sharps built by John Dixon & Sons in Edinburgh Scotland. I’ve had people tell me that there was no such chambering, but I had it in my hands.
I have learned to never doubt a cartridge's existence, just because I've never heard of it. I got egg on my face a few times, thinking that the other guy didn't know what he was talking about.
My Shiloh Sharps is chambered in .50-2 1/2", loaded with 90, 100 or 110 grains of BP. I have an adjustable paper patch mold which can make from 350 to 700 grain bullets.
Iconic rifle.That black powder rounds were big but low pressure.Todays 308 winchester got almost 1000 Joules more muzzle energy than Sharps black powder 50-90 catridge.Interesting.
New sub here. I am impressed with the historical knowledge of the rifles and the cartridges you demonstrate, and envy your groups at two hundred meters. I have been shooting my 45/70 trapdoor rifle since 1962 and can't do that well. Regards.
Love my 1874 long range petersoli 45 70 it is a difficult weapon to shoot freehand at 50 meters, we will do my best on Saturday and I will clean my barrel every shot
Tip: You should try patches that are damp but not soaked when cleaning between shots. Shooters in the US prefer Ballistol or M Pro 7. Do not be afraid to harden your alloy up to 14-1. Most long range shooters in the US are shooting 1-20 to 1-16 alloy but 1-14 will work as well. You should also use a better (thicker) wad stack to protect the bullet base 1.5mm thick veg fiber minimum. a felt wad 3mm thick also helps as well under the bullet.
Hand held cannons but they look like a lot of fun to shoot and just to hold and look at! It is sad how the American Bison was nearly wiped out completely to eliminate the Native Peoples as well. From what I’ve researched in 1800 there was an estimated 60,000,000-80;000;000 Buffalo and by 1900 there were 1000. Thank God they survived! When I think of the Indigenous People taking what they needed and the 2000lb. Buffalo? Wow! Bow and arrow in the early day and later on horse back in a stampede of huge animals it is truly amazing. And these rifles are amazing as well. Thank You So Much as Always and Many Blessings! And keep Lots of powder in those huge shells! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
There is an art to shooting a heavy rifle off hand. You plan your shots and are ready to fire as soon as the sights are aligned. A decent shooter doesn't try to stand motionlessness aligning their sights they are ready to fire as soon as the rifle is raised. A muscle in motion is smooth and steady, but standing motionlessness it's shaky and spastic.
My first rifle was a muzzle loader with 350 gr. Sabot and 150 gr. powder. Very doable for hunting deer out to 200m. Recoil is sharp, but manageable even for a 14yr old.
Very Interesting, very nice rifle. I enjoyed westerns as a kid. So when the opportunity to by reproduction 45 70 Sharps sporting rifle came up I bought it. It was on the rack, so not a custom rifle. Haven’t shot a rifle since I was a Boy Scout. So I guess I got a bit of a learning curve. I might ask a few questions. Thanks.
I bet the fact that those paper patch bullets weren't very popular because they didn't travel well, imagine trying to carry boxes of these bullets in your saddle bags or in a bumpy wagon going across the prairie
I always use paper patched bullets in my Shiloh 45-110, more accurate then grease grove. If you make them properly, the paper patches are quite robust if handled with due care.
No Sharps Rifle Company records show that sharps ever chambered a rifle in .45-120, though rechambered rifles do exist. Rumor has it that the .45-120 was to be introduced in the Borchardt Rifle, but the company closed its doors before then. A fire at the Sharps Company destroyed some of their production records, but it is fairly certain that Sharps never produced .45-120 ammo. Winchester introduced the cartridge in the High Wall Rifle as well as marketed ammo. The cartridge was believed to have been brought to Winchester by a former Sharps employee looking for a job. ( Speculation). Winchester may have just commandeered the Sharps name (and reputation ) to help market the cartridge, as the Sharps Company was defunct and unlikely to contest it. I have a Pedersoli .45-120. Fine Rifle.
jo napot, the .45 - 3.25" is not a buffalo cartridge, it does not appear in any of sharp´s catalogues ! it was mentioned by winchester as a chambering for their high walls, but by then the buffalo was long gone. a good read for those interested : "shooting buffalo rifles of the old west" by mike venturino
I've always wanted to get my hands on a Sharps chambered for 45-120. However, this is more of a "want" rather than a "need" thing. 😉 I have a Pedersoli "Competition" model Sharps '74 chambered for 45-70. My load is 70 gr of Swiss no. 4 (drop tube used to fill, then slightly compressed with a compression die), cardboard wad, grease cookie, 2 paper wads , .442 550 gr bullet, paper patched to .450 diameter. The bullet is seated by hand about 8 mm deep and taper crimped verey, very lightly, just so it won't fall out of the case. I suppose I crammed just about the maximum ammount of powder and lead possible into the 45-70 case. 😅It is very easy to chamber each round and the cases never stick after firing. I used this rifle and load very successfully at our annual "Quigley Shoot" in Denmark, where we shoot at ordinary 12 litre buckets at 400 and 600 metres. Authentic, period correct clothing is a must. I wish I could post pictures, here. One tip: Use a Goodwin-style diopter. It makes cleaning after each shot so much easier, doing it from the rear instead of the front!
Beautiful gun. We have a local competition where only lever/falling/rolling block rifles are used and the Pedersoli copies normally win. They are all 45-70. When I watched you clean something caught my attention. You use the brush as the last step when I believe it would be better to use a patch after the brush. Any material the brush removes will likely remain in the barrel if you do not patch it out after. When doing normal rifle cleaning the dirtiest patches always come out after brushing as the brush loosens materials on the lands and grooves but does not do a good job of removing it from the barrel. There may be some reason you do it this way that I'm not aware of.
Very nice rifle I have the 45-90 sharps 1874 and shooting paper patch with a 540 grain postal bullet they are so much fun ! I don't know what you use to clean between shots but I use 50/50 mix of RV anti freeze and distilled water it works very well but since you are shooting lead I don't think this would work for you. I am trying now to find a Gibbs rifle for long range shooting are you coming here to New Mexico for the next long range competition ?
I immagine the only way to keep the rifle accurate with greased bullets would be cleaning the barrel at each shot, but that would nullify the idea of using bullets put togheter "the trail way", i don't think they were cleaning the barrels with carbon fiber rods back in the '800s :) so paper patch it's the way.
You might try a greased cookie to keep the extra fowling down. I shoot a 4082 in a Peabody Gimmer. I commented before the video was over. Excellent load workup
I would like to see Civil War sniper rifle such as I once saw at Smithsonian - @ 50 lb., false muzzle, underhammer, seemingly someone's personal target rifle, taken to war.
Hello I just bought my first black powder revolver and now i feel in love with the history and the birth of fire arms its intresting I am a formor US NAVY SEABEE SMALL WEAPONS INSTUCTOR
Like Wounded Knee wasn't a battle but a massacre, shooting buffalo wasn't hunting but slaughter. Love the Sharps though. Got two of them an original 1878 Borchardt and a Pedersoli both in 45/70.
I have been debating whether to get a Sharps in 110 or 120. Leaning towards the 110. Also, have looked at the Shiloh ones and they are amazing, but I want a shooter to use and not worry about some scratches ( I am rough on my gear). Pedersoli seems to be good, but haven't seen a 110, just a 120. Uberti also makes a nice Sharps, but I only see it in 70.
Love this content so much. I am contemplating a remington rolling block build and amnlooking at the more esoteric cartridges. 40-82 and 44 remington special (44-90 sharps bottleneck) are in the running ....the rolling block has an issue with the really long ones.
Warning!!! Don't get the 40-82! Don't. It's a nightmare to develope loads for. I've got a Winchester 1886 in 40-82 and spent many hours shooting it and accuracy is mediocre.
I'm having a hard time finding any information on reloading for my uberti 1885 highwall rifle chambered in the 45-90 caliber any advice I've only shot 500grain "factory" loads from Buffalo arms but would like to start reloading.
I have a new model 1863 sharps military carbine- converted. I have owned it for 40 years, Never fired it. I want to fire it. Can you suggest any ready made ammo for it? Or should I not fire it?? Gun dealer offered me 2K for it. is this a low ball? Anyway, it's pretty nice and has all the stamps and things. Cleaning out the house.
45-120 out od a heavy barrel doesn't even recoil that bad. Iv go a pretty hight tolerance for recoil is been my experience that most black powder rounds dont recoil that bad. I do agree about the fouling but its not any worse than any other large charge of black powder. Especially if you use a blow tube when bench shooting
Que hermosa arma que admiro y que la conocí por las películas de Hollywood ya que soy Argentino y en estos paramos no llegaron estas armas. Soy metalúrgico y lo que mas me llama la atención es como se mecanizaban estas armas y seria importante para estos videos si hoy día sobreviven algún taller mostrar las maquinarias ya que estas y sus operadores son los MAESTROS de estas joyas. Saludos desde Argentina
Axle over here we call it the forty five one twenty not the hundred and twenty! and what kind of wusses are bitching about the powder charge? i normally shoot a 110 grain load pushing a 300 to 400 grain slug out of a lighter 50 caliber front stuffer probably under 6 pounds! it don't bother me one bit!
I find it extremely painful to watch you struggle with fouling issues. I wish it were possible to spend a day teaching you how make proper lubes and load sporting ammunition that would allow you to fire many shot with out fouling control.
Hi thanks for your videos I have a Pedersoli business rifle in 45/70 and have added a soul rear sight the only problem I have is when I dome to clean it as the sight does not fold back to allow a cleaning rod to go through the breech and am curious as to how you clean yours if you have the pedersoli soul rear sight as I would like to see if I’m doing something wrong
Very interesting video content, thank you! P.S. I found the Billy Dixon story ( 15:43 ) even more interesting after figuring out the distances. In case anyone is unfamiliar with fractions or yards and miles I thought I would include them in meters: 7/8 (0.875) of a mile is 1540 yards, or 1408.176 meters; The military measurement was 1538 yards, or 1407.347 meters; 3/4 (0.75) of a mile is 1320 yards, or 1207.008 meters; 1200 yards is 1097.28 meters; As we can see, it would seem the hunter Billy Dixon was becoming more modest with in his estimate with the passing of years. While the military measure is quite remarkably close to his original estimate.
Lovely rifle, always makes me smile when I shoot my Pedersoli 1874 .45/70 with cast grooved bullets and 60 grains of Swiss No3. I cast my bullets 16:1 so slightly hard.
I have pedersoli Sharp's 45-120, I traded for, I gave the gentleman a Ruger Redhawk and $250 dollars for it. The barrel has been shortened from 34" to 30" ,set triggers, octagon to round barrel. I'm currently loading it with a drop tube 110 grs ffg Goex .030 fiber wad and a 610 grain round nose bullet lubed with SPG blk powder lube. Lots of fun to shoot off-hand, but miserable from the bench.
I have a Shiloh Sharps Hartford 1874 in .45/70. (2.10) Lots of fun. If you get the chance watch Valdez is Coming with Burt Lancaster. There’s a scene in the movie in which he’s making long range shots with a Sharps
Very interesting video as usual! I like this 1874 sharps carbine 45 120.I have learned something from this video! I would like to have a gun like this! I am a reloder and learned something from this video! Excelent.shooting and excellent groups short and long range. David Back from Menifee county Kentucky USA.
Howdy..I have been shooting a .45 120 3 1/4" aka .45/ 3 1/4" Lyman for the last 4o years. It kicks about the same as a medium load 12 guage shotgun..It isn't as jumpy as say a .30 1906 Gov't as when loaded with black powder it is more of a push than a snap...Great round..you can take anything with hair on this continent (North America) with no problem. Great old chambering... JPH
Please ask your questions under this post!
What material did you paper patch your bullets with?
I notice you didn't lubricate the paper patch (or I just missed it, I had the video playing while I was working) -- doesn't that lead to more erosion in the bore?
@@TheRedneckPreppy I do not lube the patch, as it will dampen the paper. I use a grease cookie under the bullet: www.patreon.com/posts/reloading-45-120-90692193
Is there a rifle in this, that lets you use smokeless powder loads? Like a Ruger no.1 type thing.
@@edgarburlyman738here in USA you can find both 45/70 and 45/90 ammo almost everywhere including Walmart with smokeless pounder and shoot them in my perisoli sharps every week
"If it can go through a car, and it can go through a 2,000 pound BISON, it can go through YOU! So, never pick a fight with a Buffalo Hunter"- Clint Smith.
I have shot 45 120 and recoil is not unnoticed. But it is manageable for an experienced shooter.
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I would love to see a video on the different percussion sharps offered onthe repro market
I have access to Pedersoli confederate Sharps.
@@capandball It would make for an exciting video for sure!
I used to have an 1874 Sharps reproduction rifle manufactured specifically for smokeless powder, a 50-140 a full case of smokeless would net 2350 FPS and 8900 pound/feet of energy at the muzzle and a 3 shot 3 inch group at a ioo yards with a Barnes copper jacket pointed soft point @ 600 grains weight. I wanted a stopping rifle and that's what it is. I recently gave them away because I was no longer strong enough to shoot them I'm 70 years old.
I have absolutely no practical use for such a rifle. But, I want one. That sounds awesome 👍.
The Sharps is such an iconic rifle. Mine is a Pedersoli as well, and it's probably my favorite gun. It's not the gun I shoot the most, but very few guns will give you that combined feel of handling a classic old rifle with a touch of modernity. The heavy hammer and the long octagonal barrel... it's really hard to beat. Single shot breech loaders are just fabulous, and the Sharps is the king of that category in my opinion.
My favorite 45/90 Sharp's was a C Sharp's made in Montana at the factory. I downed a doe once without hitting the vitals. Great stopping power!
Had a relative who shoots cowboy action and long range matches. Got to go with him to one to check out, was about 16. They got done with the long range match and were just shooting for fun. He had a sharps .45-120 and he let me shoot it. As a fan of Quigley Down Under I was excited to shoot a Sharps! And even though it beat the hell out of me, I still enjoyed shooting ir. I did manage a standing, offhand hit at 850 yards! Was definitely more luck than skill but I made the hit!
Great video as always!
Your videos are so relaxing! The Buffalo rifles are awesome pieces of American Western history.Thank you for the video!
Your poor shoulder must have taken a beating .
Very interesting. I too have read some of the disinterest in the 45-120 for accurate target shooting. Good to see you taking on the challenge. Thank you for the video!
We have 8 shoots a year dedicated for black powder with the "45" family. 45/70 - 45/120 with quite a number of competitors. 100 yds out to 1,000 yds+... Both Pistol and Rifle events. It's always great fun and the challenges fly back and forth on who can do what at what range!!!😊
It is a shame that Sharps' answer to losing market share to repeating rifles was an improved single shot rifle.
Your reading of the comments reminded me of my old friend and shooting buddy. He had a m1895 Marlin in .45-70 of course. He once told me "watch this..." He put it against his hip and touched off a factory round. He winced at the shot, and said "Yow, that really hurt". He then proceeded to repeat the shot because he couldn't believe it hurt so much the first time! The memory makes me laugh even today.
Try a five pound H&R.lol.😊
Beautiful rifles and history, and what an epic size of cartridge, that is a monster. Thanks for sharing this one with us enjoyed this very much
That black powder rounds were big but low pressure.Todays 308 winchester got almost 1000 Joules more muzzle energy than Sharps black powder 50-90 catridge.Interesting.
I am not familiar with this cartridge. I've shot a 45-70 before but that 120 thing's a Cannon! I love it and I want one! Thanks for sharing and as always great video! Inspires me to really get into black powder shooting!
I have a T/C Contender Pistol 14" barrel 45/70 and I also t🎉ook a Martini-Henry action and barreled it with a 45/70 34" barrel with great results. At present I'm working on restoring an 1895 Winchester in 45/90 I recently bought in Montana.
Perhaps you only think you want one. A 45-70 can be loaded to velocities approaching .45 WIN Mag territory in a modern rifle. .45-120 is strictly a blackpowder case. It is far too voluminous to safely load ANY smokeless powder. Interestingly, it is virtually the same specifications as the British .450 Blackpowder Express. The former round becoming the .450 Nitro Express when loaded with smokeless. The Nitro ammo should only be used in rifles rated for Nitro ammo, NEVER in rifles rated for BPE (Blackpowder express). Therefore, there is no advantage to a 45-120 over a .45-70, unless you want the most power out of a Black powder load + easy reloading with a few simple hand tools in the field.
I can't believe you don't have more subscribers I've been watching since 2014 . All the best from Kentucky
Great video! It needs to be said that the 45-120 was never a buffalo hunting cartridge. It was developed in 1878, but didn’t make it west by 1884, when the hunts were essentially over. The largest 45 caliber cartridge used for buffalo hunting was the 45-110.
Correct in that the 45-110 was the largest, it Sharps never made the 45-120, they were done by gunsmiths.
I recently left the US the only thing I really miss is a nice morning at the gun range up on the mountain. Just a few hours felt like a weekend off.
I love this format, with historical inserts and information
Thanks for your videos!
Great video! The Sharps is indeed a thing of great beauty. Personally though, I would prefer the Werndl or Remington Rolling Block over it. I am wondering though, when it comes to ease of use, would you say the Sharps was easier to handle than the latter two or the other way around?
Having the 3 rifles in my cabinet, i don't think one is easier to handle than the other. but the Sharps and the Werndl definitely look safer then the Roller.
Quigley Down Under, a character from my home state of Wyoming. Great film.
Fantastic, been waiting for a good analysis of the big .45 in a Sharps. I was able to shoot a Pope barreled, separate case, Muzzle loaded bullet Stevens 32-55 target rifle. I was doomed, to bad that i shot it real well. a lot to deal with as a 10 year old. My Grandfather and spirit guide was a Market Hunter, part time, selling ducks to the hotels in St. Louis, MO, USA. It was legal until 1936. He kept his live decoys thru the war until their young died when i was about 5 in 1948.He liked duck eggs for Breakfast. Fantastic wing shot i got his 10 ga and shot it with BP until a barrel cracked. it is an honored Wall hanger.
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Shiloh warns buyers that thr 45-110 can be "uncomfortable" in long strings of shots. Believe it! Mine hurts me unmercifully.
I would love to see you do a shoot-off between the Sharps, the Springfield Trapdoor, and the Martini-Henry.
Forgotten Weapons sent me to the History Of Weapons And War app, which led me to this channel. I'm really glad I found it.
Can a claymore sword and a .45-70 caliber sharps rifle be combined together in real life?
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Howdy from Oklahoma.
I picked me up one like it a few years ago in 50 - 2-1/2" & finally about ready to shoot it. Took longer than I imagined to find brass, molds & other necessities. I have always like the Sharps & all the history. Got to reading some western history & ran across Oklahoma marshal Bill Tilghman years back. His buffalo hunting days (his rifle originally a 40 cal sharps (SN# C53858), then re-barreled by sharps as a 50-90 or 2-1/2") & life as a marshal in Kansas & Oklahoma. He even had his "Big 50" at the Gray County war in Kansas. So when a 50-90 sharps (repo) became avalible, I had to pick it up.
Love your channel & keep up the good work.
-KLB
I use copper wool to remove the lead, think that is more easy on the rifling
It's really terrible what happened to the plains bison. A crime on a massive scale 😢
IIRC, the main reason for hunting so many bison was that their hides made more durable leather than cattle. Most of this leather went into making belts for factories - this was the era of factories having one or several very large steam engines driving an array of driveshafts in the factory, with big pulleys and leather belts to distribute power to individual machine tools in the factory. Buffalo leather belts lasted significantly longer than regular cattle leather, so factory operators preferred using them and created a lucrative market for buffalo hides.
Beautiful rifle - wish i had been able to shoot my godfather's 45-90 Sharps when he was still alive - but alas that's not possible now - i did get to shoot his .50 cal and .55 cal. Hawkins -
I love these long range Sharps rifles, the only reason I don't have one like this, I don't have a range locally to shoot it at. I saw one of those .45-120 Sharps rifles on the rack at our local gun shop, it sat for about a year before someone bought it. The problem where I am is that I am in the mountains and even our "flat lands" aren't very flat. The fields will have little grades and small dips in them, making it so that most shots are going to be 200 yards and that's about it. Even our blackpowder range where we compete only gets out to 200 yards, but, if I lived farther west, where ranges really open up, I would be more than willing to shoot a .45-120, because it's a great cartridge.
Are you sure you aren’t FPS Russia, incognito?😂
I fired an old Sharps once that was chambered in 45-136. It was a custom made Sharps built by John Dixon & Sons in Edinburgh Scotland.
I’ve had people tell me that there was no such chambering, but I had it in my hands.
I have learned to never doubt a cartridge's existence, just because I've never heard of it.
I got egg on my face a few times, thinking that the other guy didn't know what he was talking about.
My Shiloh Sharps is chambered in .50-2 1/2", loaded with 90, 100 or 110 grains of BP. I have an adjustable paper patch mold which can make from 350 to 700 grain bullets.
I was able to load 140 grains of 2 f behind a 450 grain rcbs semi wad cutter
My father tried cast type metal bullets in his 300 H&H, his description suggested that the bullets were squirting out the muzzle
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The notable buffalo runner Frank Mayer had nothing but praise for his Sharps 45-120
Iconic rifle.That black powder rounds were big but low pressure.Todays 308 winchester got almost 1000 Joules more muzzle energy than Sharps black powder 50-90 catridge.Interesting.
Man, those😮 are some magnificent rifles my man. They really are some gold pieces congrats.
New sub here. I am impressed with the historical knowledge of the rifles and the cartridges you demonstrate, and envy your groups at two hundred meters. I have been shooting my 45/70 trapdoor rifle since 1962 and can't do that well. Regards.
Love my 1874 long range petersoli 45 70 it is a difficult weapon to shoot freehand at 50 meters, we will do my best on Saturday and I will clean my barrel every shot
Tip: You should try patches that are damp but not soaked when cleaning between shots. Shooters in the US prefer Ballistol or M Pro 7. Do not be afraid to harden your alloy up to 14-1. Most long range shooters in the US are shooting 1-20 to 1-16 alloy but 1-14 will work as well. You should also use a better (thicker) wad stack to protect the bullet base 1.5mm thick veg fiber minimum. a felt wad 3mm thick also helps as well under the bullet.
The rifle and cartridge La’Beuf (Glen Campbell) had in true grit I do believe
No, he was using a 50-70 1874 sharps carbine
Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. I'll have to stick with my poor man's H&R buffalo classic for now but maybe one day!
Hand held cannons but they look like a lot of fun to shoot and just to hold and look at! It is sad how the American Bison was nearly wiped out completely to eliminate the Native Peoples as well. From what I’ve researched in 1800 there was an estimated 60,000,000-80;000;000 Buffalo and by 1900 there were 1000. Thank God they survived! When I think of the Indigenous People taking what they needed and the 2000lb. Buffalo? Wow! Bow and arrow in the early day and later on horse back in a stampede of huge animals it is truly amazing. And these rifles are amazing as well. Thank You So Much as Always and Many Blessings! And keep Lots of powder in those huge shells! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
당신의 영상을 볼때마다 서양 기술력에 감탄합니다 ㅎㅎ 총알 만드는 영상 너무 재미 있습니다 ㅎㅎ 미국인의 총기 영상들은 그냥 풀오토로 쏘는 영상들 뿐인데, 당신의 영상은 예술입니다
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This is an American rifle.
I can’t believe you shot this beast off hand, unbraced and actually hit your target. You are one heck of a shot.
offhand only a few times. That's really heavy. :)
There is an art to shooting a heavy rifle off hand. You plan your shots and are ready to fire as soon as the sights are aligned. A decent shooter doesn't try to stand motionlessness aligning their sights they are ready to fire as soon as the rifle is raised. A muscle in motion is smooth and steady, but standing motionlessness it's shaky and spastic.
Standing no sticks with a 12 pound rifle 🎉
:) but only a few times...
My first rifle was a muzzle loader with 350 gr. Sabot and 150 gr. powder. Very doable for hunting deer out to 200m. Recoil is sharp, but manageable even for a 14yr old.
I had the same rifle. Was very happy when I eventually sold it. 😅
Very Interesting, very nice rifle. I enjoyed westerns as a kid. So when the opportunity to by reproduction 45 70 Sharps sporting rifle came up I bought it. It was on the rack, so not a custom rifle. Haven’t shot a rifle since I was a Boy Scout. So I guess I got a bit of a learning curve. I might ask a few questions. Thanks.
Original Lyman ideal tool😮😮😮
I bet the fact that those paper patch bullets weren't very popular because they didn't travel well, imagine trying to carry boxes of these bullets in your saddle bags or in a bumpy wagon going across the prairie
Definitely more fragile than a grease groove bullet cartridge.
I always use paper patched bullets in my Shiloh 45-110, more accurate then grease grove. If you make them properly, the paper patches are quite robust if handled with due care.
No Sharps Rifle Company records show that sharps ever chambered a rifle in .45-120, though rechambered rifles do exist. Rumor has it that the .45-120 was to be introduced in the Borchardt Rifle, but the company closed its doors before then. A fire at the Sharps Company destroyed some of their production records, but it is fairly certain that Sharps never produced .45-120 ammo. Winchester introduced the cartridge in the High Wall Rifle as well as marketed ammo. The cartridge was believed to have been brought to Winchester by a former Sharps employee looking for a job. ( Speculation). Winchester may have just commandeered the Sharps name (and reputation ) to help market the cartridge, as the Sharps Company was defunct and unlikely to contest it. I have a Pedersoli .45-120. Fine Rifle.
Love your WORK! May GOD Bless You! and Your Family!
and I love the Giggles and Smiles when you Bang the Gong! Kick did not look to bad?
jo napot,
the .45 - 3.25" is not a buffalo cartridge, it does not appear in any of sharp´s catalogues !
it was mentioned by winchester as a chambering for their high walls, but by then the buffalo was long gone.
a good read for those interested :
"shooting buffalo rifles of the old west" by mike venturino
I've always wanted to get my hands on a Sharps chambered for 45-120. However, this is more of a "want" rather than a "need" thing. 😉 I have a Pedersoli "Competition" model Sharps '74 chambered for 45-70. My load is 70 gr of Swiss no. 4 (drop tube used to fill, then slightly compressed with a compression die), cardboard wad, grease cookie, 2 paper wads , .442 550 gr bullet, paper patched to .450 diameter. The bullet is seated by hand about 8 mm deep and taper crimped verey, very lightly, just so it won't fall out of the case. I suppose I crammed just about the maximum ammount of powder and lead possible into the 45-70 case. 😅It is very easy to chamber each round and the cases never stick after firing.
I used this rifle and load very successfully at our annual "Quigley Shoot" in Denmark, where we shoot at ordinary 12 litre buckets at 400 and 600 metres. Authentic, period correct clothing is a must.
I wish I could post pictures, here.
One tip: Use a Goodwin-style diopter. It makes cleaning after each shot so much easier, doing it from the rear instead of the front!
That's exactly my PP load for my Pedersoli Rolling Block in 45-70.
Keep your nation's heritage alive. It is lovely stuff. Also enjoy your forays into America's western expansion period. God keep you.
Beautiful gun. We have a local competition where only lever/falling/rolling block rifles are used and the Pedersoli copies normally win. They are all 45-70. When I watched you clean something caught my attention. You use the brush as the last step when I believe it would be better to use a patch after the brush. Any material the brush removes will likely remain in the barrel if you do not patch it out after. When doing normal rifle cleaning the dirtiest patches always come out after brushing as the brush loosens materials on the lands and grooves but does not do a good job of removing it from the barrel. There may be some reason you do it this way that I'm not aware of.
Your knowledge and passion for these beautiful guns is inspiring!
Great job educating and shooting this legendary rifle.
Very nice rifle I have the 45-90 sharps 1874 and shooting paper patch with a 540 grain postal bullet they are so much fun ! I don't know what you use to clean between shots but I use 50/50 mix of RV anti freeze and distilled water it works very well but since you are shooting lead I don't think this would work for you. I am trying now to find a Gibbs rifle for long range shooting are you coming here to New Mexico for the next long range competition ?
I am planning to go to the 150 Creedmoor match next year.
@@capandball this is good news I will be there hope to have my gun ready by then.
I immagine the only way to keep the rifle accurate with greased bullets would be cleaning the barrel at each shot, but that would nullify the idea of using bullets put togheter "the trail way", i don't think they were cleaning the barrels with carbon fiber rods back in the '800s :) so paper patch it's the way.
Love your videos & the Sharpe's. Had a carbine once upon a time. Hope to have another someday. Billy Dixon was from my home state, West Virginia.
I have one 45/120 Pedersoli and many 45/70. Very impressive at range but hard to find case.
There is a supplier here in Canada that I just got some from. Very expensive but they were the only ones I found in North America.
You might try a greased cookie to keep the extra fowling down. I shoot a 4082 in a Peabody Gimmer. I commented before the video was over. Excellent load workup
I do use it. here is the complete process: www.patreon.com/posts/reloading-45-120-90692193
I would like to see Civil War sniper rifle such as I once saw at Smithsonian - @ 50 lb., false muzzle, underhammer, seemingly someone's personal target rifle, taken to war.
Hello I just bought my first black powder revolver and now i feel in love with the history and the birth of fire arms its intresting I am a formor US NAVY SEABEE SMALL WEAPONS INSTUCTOR
Like Wounded Knee wasn't a battle but a massacre, shooting buffalo wasn't hunting but slaughter.
Love the Sharps though. Got two of them an original 1878 Borchardt and a Pedersoli both in 45/70.
My grandfather has an original rifle chambered in 45express also onown as 45 125 300
Unless you use black powder anything over 45/70 is unneeded with smokeless powder. The Extraspace in a 45/120 is unused.
I have been debating whether to get a Sharps in 110 or 120. Leaning towards the 110. Also, have looked at the Shiloh ones and they are amazing, but I want a shooter to use and not worry about some scratches ( I am rough on my gear). Pedersoli seems to be good, but haven't seen a 110, just a 120. Uberti also makes a nice Sharps, but I only see it in 70.
Love this content so much. I am contemplating a remington rolling block build and amnlooking at the more esoteric cartridges. 40-82 and 44 remington special (44-90 sharps bottleneck) are in the running ....the rolling block has an issue with the really long ones.
Warning!!! Don't get the 40-82! Don't. It's a nightmare to develope loads for. I've got a Winchester 1886 in 40-82 and spent many hours shooting it and accuracy is mediocre.
I'm having a hard time finding any information on reloading for my uberti 1885 highwall rifle chambered in the 45-90 caliber any advice I've only shot 500grain "factory" loads from Buffalo arms but would like to start reloading.
How much doesit cost for each rifle and amunition, is it hard to find amunition. Love these rifles, so powerful and so good looking.
On totally different note, Can you give some instructions on aiming through Verner Sights please?
I have a new model 1863 sharps military carbine- converted. I have owned it for 40 years, Never fired it. I want to fire it. Can you suggest any ready made ammo for it? Or should I not fire it?? Gun dealer offered me 2K for it. is this a low ball? Anyway, it's pretty nice and has all the stamps and things. Cleaning out the house.
45-120 out od a heavy barrel doesn't even recoil that bad. Iv go a pretty hight tolerance for recoil is been my experience that most black powder rounds dont recoil that bad. I do agree about the fouling but its not any worse than any other large charge of black powder. Especially if you use a blow tube when bench shooting
Que hermosa arma que admiro y que la conocí por las películas de Hollywood ya que soy Argentino y en estos paramos no llegaron estas armas. Soy metalúrgico y lo que mas me llama la atención es como se mecanizaban estas armas y seria importante para estos videos si hoy día sobreviven algún taller mostrar las maquinarias ya que estas y sus operadores son los MAESTROS de estas joyas.
Saludos desde Argentina
Axle over here we call it the forty five one twenty not the hundred and twenty! and what kind of wusses are bitching about the powder charge? i normally shoot a 110 grain load pushing a 300 to 400 grain slug out of a lighter 50 caliber front stuffer probably under 6 pounds! it don't bother me one bit!
I find it extremely painful to watch you struggle with fouling issues. I wish it were possible to spend a day teaching you how make proper lubes and load sporting ammunition that would allow you to fire many shot with out fouling control.
I joined the army. If I wanted to shoot canons, I would have joined the artillery.
Hi thanks for your videos I have a Pedersoli business rifle in 45/70 and have added a soul rear sight the only problem I have is when I dome to clean it as the sight does not fold back to allow a cleaning rod to go through the breech and am curious as to how you clean yours if you have the pedersoli soul rear sight as I would like to see if I’m doing something wrong
I clean from the muzzle always using a muzzle protector to save the crown.
@@capandball hi thanks for the reply appreciate that and that has answered my question perfectly and have ordered a crown protector thanks again
Which is the best Sharps currently made, the Shiloh Arms, or the Pedersoli.
The annihilation of the buffalo was also used as a weapon to deprive the Native Americans of their source of food and leather etc.
Gee, Quigley was satisfied with a .45-110.
300 metros en el siglo XIX era bastante si se toma la forma de las batallas 👀😨, ahora nadie en su sano juicio se pone a campo abierto
Shoulder friendly and affordable ... my kind of gun.
The Sharps carbine is a rifle of uncanny power and precision.
i anyone see the butterfly sard for his life at 10:00 did he leave after the there shot? or did he say for all of the shots??
Very interesting video content, thank you!
P.S. I found the Billy Dixon story ( 15:43 ) even more interesting after figuring out the distances. In case anyone is unfamiliar with fractions or yards and miles I thought I would include them in meters:
7/8 (0.875) of a mile is 1540 yards, or 1408.176 meters;
The military measurement was 1538 yards, or 1407.347 meters;
3/4 (0.75) of a mile is 1320 yards, or 1207.008 meters;
1200 yards is 1097.28 meters;
As we can see, it would seem the hunter Billy Dixon was becoming more modest with in his estimate with the passing of years. While the military measure is quite remarkably close to his original estimate.
NICE SHOT NOT BAD FOR A OLD WEAPON I LOVE THIS STUFF
Lovely rifle, always makes me smile when I shoot my Pedersoli 1874 .45/70 with cast grooved bullets and 60 grains of Swiss No3. I cast my bullets 16:1 so slightly hard.
I have pedersoli Sharp's 45-120, I traded for, I gave the gentleman a Ruger Redhawk and $250 dollars for it.
The barrel has been shortened from 34" to 30" ,set triggers, octagon to round barrel.
I'm currently loading it with a drop tube 110 grs ffg Goex .030 fiber wad and a 610 grain round nose bullet lubed with SPG blk powder lube.
Lots of fun to shoot off-hand, but miserable from the bench.
I blame you for wanting more muzzleloaders now
:)
I have a Shiloh Sharps Hartford 1874 in .45/70. (2.10) Lots of fun. If you get the chance watch Valdez is Coming with Burt Lancaster. There’s a scene in the movie in which he’s making long range shots with a Sharps
Very interesting video as usual! I like this 1874 sharps carbine 45 120.I have learned something from this video! I would like to have a gun like this! I am a reloder and learned something from this video! Excelent.shooting and excellent groups short and long range. David Back from Menifee county Kentucky USA.
Howdy..I have been shooting a .45 120 3 1/4" aka .45/ 3 1/4" Lyman for the last 4o years. It kicks about the same as a medium load 12 guage shotgun..It isn't as jumpy as say a .30 1906 Gov't as when loaded with black powder it is more of a push than a snap...Great round..you can take anything with hair on this continent (North America) with no problem. Great old chambering... JPH