Sam Cook I have not seen the video yet, but if Magnus is in it 1ksons will win, calling it. Better to not field Roboute when Magnus is near because he'd get D spammed to death turn 1 and everytime he stands up he moves a little and dies again.
Nice batrep. More thousand sons and more Magnus please. Don't forget the updated (curse of the wulfen) change spells. Like prismatic gaze. Wc3 D witchfire, saves you some warp charge dice for single target instead of Gaze of Magnus.
Challenge for Reign of Chaos; build each other a list, the idea is to make it as comically, hopelessly bad as possible... The rules are; Traitor Legions only, no allies, you must be Battle Forged, useless upgrades are 100% allowed, 1500 pts limit, try to use that legion's detachment, forget the fluff, have fun, what happens on the battle field stays on the battle field... If you were doing this with loyalist scum, Vanguard Veterans with 2 Thunder Hammers and no jump pack (hint, hint, future batrep)... Oh, and the winner gives the other a truely bad unit (overpriced warp talons...)!
RYGW - around 55:40, the rhino tank shocks while going flat out, but this actually isn't possible. Tank shock is performed only in the movement phase (and in fact prevents a vehicle from going flat out).
tbh i was tired of watching batrep ( like 2-3 years ago ), used to watched alot and was enjoying it but at one point gave up watching for a while. 5 or 6 month ago watched 2 or 3 gave up again but that one really enjoyed me so i kept watching more and more so now make 5 hour i watch batrep from you guys and i came back to comment on this one. Good job guys !
I always thought that it was a little bit strange that Thousand Sons were the only legion that doesn't have access to the Spawn auxiliary formation considering the Tzaangor warherd has spawn in the formation and a bunch of the T sons weapons and spells transmogrify units into spawn.
I have Magnus making his way to me in the mail, so excited! He will be leading a cultist horde: 2 Exalted sorcerers 90 close combat cultists 90 ranged cultists Magnus
Balin40k why the cultists though? It's not the most fluffy thing and for gameplay you could just ally in daemons and use horrors, which could also provide warp charges
I was thinking about going with massed tzaangors as I want a horde army, but they will end up being quite expensive (i want to fill my deployment zone with models) and cultists are quite cheap on ebay. Could always give them the mark of tzeench to keep with the theme.
At 32:40, I'm fairly certain that the other assault marines should have attacked the rear armour. Don't you always attack the rear armour of a vehicle regardless of what armour facing your guys are pushed against?
Dave, using siphon magic is a better tactic instead of force for magnus because of the free charges when you cast :3. Aside from that nice report, glad to see beautiful thousand sons in play.
Someone may have said this already, BUT like a certain khorne champ. who has a rule that means he always hits on a 2+ even when say fighting someone who is invisible, still hits on a 2+ Similarly a certain Primarch who always casts on a 2+, even if otherwise would generate on a 6+, will still cast on a 2+....
James Mightens No, the sisters of silence rule clearly says "even if they would otherwise cast on a different role, Magnus's rule does not, making the sisters rule superior.
unfortunately not, VOTLW works on Space Marines, not all Imperial Agents. If it was Black Legion Chaos Space Marines, it would be Hatred against ALL Imperial Agents
VotLW is Hatred towards Space Marines, not Sisters of Silence. The Sisters with swords would've had at least a single model alive at the end of that combat!
What exactly is it with the 25% = +1 cover thing? Am I missing a special rule here or are they simply using the rules wrong? Also, I call shenanigans on the 2 shot whirlwind! :-p
46:50, four Assault Marines on the charge should generate 12, not 8, attacks. 1 base, +1 dual weapons, +1 charge. 61:30 Veterans of the Long War means hatred marines, not Imperium
Poison when you have Str greater than their toughness grants Shred. Also, good game, interesting to see how Magnus works, and a surprisingly good showing from the marine player in the face of the big red one eyed monster.
I most indefinitively disagree, only I- Tzeentch- have been indefinitely satisfied by this victory of my forces. I know it was a draw, but my plans are infinitely complex and this was just as planned. There almost certainly were no Slaaneshi forces involved, there was no victory for that mess on drugs! The only thing probably considerable as a victory is that he, she and it lost no forces.
2:35 Dave is indefinitely correct. I know this fir a fact as I am the master of all destinies, I can see the 10000 futures, I am Tzeentch, Lord of change and master of your destiny!! Or am I? I could be Alpharius, but then again, he's dead. But is he? Well impossibly improbably not in the warp! But anyone could be Alpharius! It is equally likely that I'm Alpharius as that you're Alpharius or that anyone else in the universe could be Alpharius!! Then that leads me to only one conclusion: We're all Alpharius!!! but, then again, are we? we could be, but equally we may not be. How do we know Alpharius even exists? He might be an imposter! Or, maybe we are really all Alpharius, but that would be impossible, or would it? After all, in this dimension- the warp- anything could be possible! But how do we know that things are even possible? It's infinitely impossibly possible that anything at all is possible! But, wouldn't then it be infinitely improbable, not infinitely impossibly possible because things have happened, which must mean that it's entirely possible, yet improbable. Although in the warp, that may be false, then again, it may not be! Or is it? Probably not, but it could be! You will neeeeever know!!! If everything is impossible, then that in itself is a paradox!! It would be impossible for anything to be impossible, meaning that things must therefore be possible! Nyehehehehehehahahhaha!!!!!! OK, I really am Tzeentch Nyehehehehehehehehehahahahahahaaaa!!
Hey great battle! Just saying, casting siphon magic instead of force would have been better and the matter of fact that you get extra warp charge points is just better
I don't know if this has been mentioned... but I didn't think Magnus could be Warlord? He is a Lord of War, for sure, but cannot be the army warlord I don't think...
Great game... I actually like the 1k sons but whitout the warband formation they aren't cut out for more competitive games... only themed ones like this one... btw is it possible to add hellbrutes, defillers and helldrakes to 1k battleforged lists?
Black Shield you mean if thousand sons can take heldrakes and the other stuff? Because they can. And if you mean a thousand points, what would stop you ?
The +1 invul for a blessing is only when the unit is blessed. Force is only on the psyker, not the unit. You'd need to cast prescience or something else that affects more than the psyker, otherwise you'd get 2+/3++ termies a little too easily, and the all termie formation for TSons would be way OP.
what darkgearhead said. force affects the whole unit. scarab occult terminators only sound scary. having only ap3 in both shooting and melee can give you massive obstacles, for instance getting locked in close combat with anything that has a 2+
Wow, that increases the awesome by +1. Though yes, the fact that there's no AP2 is kind of weak, though I guess they expect you to compensate for that in the psychic phase, or by giving the sorcerer the artifact that makes them jump termies.
Hey I just began an army of Thousands sons and I would like to know if someone had an idea about what are the essentials units, or if it's better to take some other Chaos Space Marine units like vehicules or whatever demoniac dudes I got 3 sorcerers, Ahriman, 2x5 terminators and 10 rubrics Any help would be appreciated !
wait wait wait the sisters of silence can null even magnus the red, jeese why isnt the impirium training as many nulls as they can find still? like the emperor was doing
Paint the things you want to use as you see fit. Different paint schemes keeps the hobby viable. I don't want to go play, ally up with someone and have the same paint scheme. We'll wind up Accidently stealing each others armies.
For Me 1Ksons should always be Bright Red with Gold, White and Black highlights, just because Ahiriman did his Rubric doesn't mean they are all blue in some way, shape or, form.
Why do plp focus fire invulnerable hero's like magnus when you have easier targets with less wounds. That Plasma Dev squad dropped behind the Rhinos wld have been or cld have been devastating. Open the Rhinos potentially both of them and let the Assaults charge in. Also that confers a syngery bonus for the formation.
I hate the placement of tanks on silly terrain as well. I'm hoping in 8th edition they wrote it out and stop bikes and tanks driving up walls etc. Great Bat rep tho really good. Love the guest.
JW Well, Magnus needs to be focused and killed, otherwise he will just rape the opposing army on his own. And plus I don't think T7 W7 4++ rerolling ones is THAT hard to kill, it just needs commitment.
go to 3:18 and pause it for an example of what i mean.. all the blending is done quite nicely to give a good effect for tabletop.... I was just surprised at how messy the detail work is, for a commission job.
Would you please consider not doing that "BWWWWWOOOOOMMM" noise in the middle of the video? I like to watch these to wind down for the night and that scares the absolute hell out of me
"Bruva driver follow the Sister's of Silence!"
"But Captain, why, the traitors are ahead of us!"
"Because I want to assault dat ass" (⌐■_■)
That is a good looking Thousand Sons army. Jeez.
Peter Chartier that's what you get when you get them commission painted
Wizard Smurfs Vs Pure Smurfs with Smurfettes.
This pleases me.
I saw 1k sons vs ultramarines and got excited because obviously that means we would get Magnus vs Guilliman......womp....
Sam Cook In our dreams...
I was hoping to see Guilliman as well. Haven't seen a single youtube battle report using him yet.
everyone is afraid to run him as he is fielded alone and he will get shot dead instantly.
Sam Cook
I have not seen the video yet, but if Magnus is in it 1ksons will win, calling it. Better to not field Roboute when Magnus is near because he'd get D spammed to death turn 1 and everytime he stands up he moves a little and dies again.
Sebbonx Xsebbon
Vitrix gaurd
Love the playfulness you two guys have towards one other, and someone's campiness is hilarious.
More Tzeentch! More Tzeentch!
Challi T-bone ALL IS DUST
All are pawns to the great deceiver!
More Dust! More Dust!
Lol, that 'Just so you know Chappy, poppin' smoke is against the Word of Wisdom' quote just cracked me up :)
Holy crap! "Popping smoke is against the Word of Wisdom" made me laugh so hard! Keep up the good work guys!
Nice batrep. More thousand sons and more Magnus please. Don't forget the updated (curse of the wulfen) change spells. Like prismatic gaze. Wc3 D witchfire, saves you some warp charge dice for single target instead of Gaze of Magnus.
Waited a long to see Magnus, it was worth the wait :)
Challenge for Reign of Chaos; build each other a list, the idea is to make it as comically, hopelessly bad as possible... The rules are; Traitor Legions only, no allies, you must be Battle Forged, useless upgrades are 100% allowed, 1500 pts limit, try to use that legion's detachment, forget the fluff, have fun, what happens on the battle field stays on the battle field... If you were doing this with loyalist scum, Vanguard Veterans with 2 Thunder Hammers and no jump pack (hint, hint, future batrep)... Oh, and the winner gives the other a truely bad unit (overpriced warp talons...)!
I think Dave has become my favorite miniwargamer. Always enjoy his battle reports! (Even though he's a bloody heretic.)
Adam from whatculture?
corKle dude yes.
corKle ahaha whatculture champ
I can't believe you guys are still doing this kinda stuff, keep it up :)
RYGW - around 55:40, the rhino tank shocks while going flat out, but this actually isn't possible. Tank shock is performed only in the movement phase (and in fact prevents a vehicle from going flat out).
tbh i was tired of watching batrep ( like 2-3 years ago ), used to watched alot and was enjoying it but at one point gave up watching for a while. 5 or 6 month ago watched 2 or 3 gave up again but that one really enjoyed me so i kept watching more and more so now make 5 hour i watch batrep from you guys and i came back to comment on this one. Good job guys !
ive just started playing Warhammer 40K and this is a very helpful video.
I always thought that it was a little bit strange that Thousand Sons were the only legion that doesn't have access to the Spawn auxiliary formation considering the Tzaangor warherd has spawn in the formation and a bunch of the T sons weapons and spells transmogrify units into spawn.
A minute of silence for the Sisters of Silence: (you have been honored my brothers sisters for the imperator
I'm so excited to try out my thousand sons army
I have Magnus making his way to me in the mail, so excited! He will be leading a cultist horde:
2 Exalted sorcerers
90 close combat cultists
90 ranged cultists
Magnus
Balin40k why the cultists though? It's not the most fluffy thing and for gameplay you could just ally in daemons and use horrors, which could also provide warp charges
I was thinking about going with massed tzaangors as I want a horde army, but they will end up being quite expensive (i want to fill my deployment zone with models) and cultists are quite cheap on ebay. Could always give them the mark of tzeench to keep with the theme.
At 32:40, I'm fairly certain that the other assault marines should have attacked the rear armour. Don't you always attack the rear armour of a vehicle regardless of what armour facing your guys are pushed against?
Dave, using siphon magic is a better tactic instead of force for magnus because of the free charges when you cast :3. Aside from that nice report, glad to see beautiful thousand sons in play.
I didn't know you guys are Mormon that's cool. Word of wisdom joke is awesome!
You forgot about the sycers invulnerable save
I don't remember if he said whether or not he Gave them a Aura of dark Glory or a Sigil but Sorcerers don't come with Invuls
A Mark of tzeentch sorcerer would get a 6+ invuln
^ you right.
You dont reroll agaisnt Sister of silence, with the Special rule : veterans of the long war
Fun bat rep, but kind of silly that giant rock he drove a rhino over wasn't impassible... -___-
Yeah... I'd have called BS on that one. Why even have the rock there if you can drive over it like that?
Exactly.
That guy's smile looks like Aphex Twin's smile.
Someone may have said this already, BUT like a certain khorne champ. who has a rule that means he always hits on a 2+ even when say fighting someone who is invisible, still hits on a 2+
Similarly a certain Primarch who always casts on a 2+, even if otherwise would generate on a 6+, will still cast on a 2+....
rulebook 6+ < codex 2+ = 2+
codex 6+ ? codex 2+ = ?
i think its 6+, but u have a point
James Mightens
No, the sisters of silence rule clearly says "even if they would otherwise cast on a different role, Magnus's rule does not, making the sisters rule superior.
James Mightens
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Daves wild rhino butt move
I call fromage!!!
Steve Gusky if its stupid and works it's not stupid
Max B agreed sir
Max B still
It looks rather silly
Oh well
You so crazy, 40k!
why you call cheese?
47:44 the assault marine should have had another dangerous terrain test from magnus' aura
no veterans of the long war against the sisters of silence
unfortunately not, VOTLW works on Space Marines, not all Imperial Agents. If it was Black Legion Chaos Space Marines, it would be Hatred against ALL Imperial Agents
At 57:37 You can't tank shock as a flat out. It is during movement you do a tank shock.
VotLW is Hatred towards Space Marines, not Sisters of Silence. The Sisters with swords would've had at least a single model alive at the end of that combat!
Cody Henry ni thought it was hatred against all armies of the imperium.
Cody Henry That's what I wondered but I didn't have rule books to check.
Dave, holy crap, Rhino still have REPAIR!.........DO IT!
What about the 9 cards at the end of the turn
What exactly is it with the 25% = +1 cover thing? Am I missing a special rule here or are they simply using the rules wrong?
Also, I call shenanigans on the 2 shot whirlwind! :-p
@58ish can you tank shock during a flat out move like that?
46:50, four Assault Marines on the charge should generate 12, not 8, attacks. 1 base, +1 dual weapons, +1 charge.
61:30 Veterans of the Long War means hatred marines, not Imperium
Poison when you have Str greater than their toughness grants Shred. Also, good game, interesting to see how Magnus works, and a surprisingly good showing from the marine player in the face of the big red one eyed monster.
YESS. More Thousand Sons please.
Ahh, strength D magnus beam across all those tanks please 12:10
How about 3000pts of Thousand Sons VS 500pts of the blasphemous army of blueberry-fish?
9 to 9 tie...I think Tzeentch liked it.
I definitely most improbably did!
So Slaanesh has won as well, cause combined that makes 18 and thats a multiple of....6
I most indefinitively disagree, only I- Tzeentch- have been indefinitely satisfied by this victory of my forces. I know it was a draw, but my plans are infinitely complex and this was just as planned. There almost certainly were no Slaaneshi forces involved, there was no victory for that mess on drugs! The only thing probably considerable as a victory is that he, she and it lost no forces.
Your desires tell a different story.
Nice intro
nice paint 1k sons
2:35 Dave is indefinitely correct. I know this fir a fact as I am the master of all destinies, I can see the 10000 futures, I am Tzeentch, Lord of change and master of your destiny!! Or am I? I could be Alpharius, but then again, he's dead. But is he? Well impossibly improbably not in the warp! But anyone could be Alpharius! It is equally likely that I'm Alpharius as that you're Alpharius or that anyone else in the universe could be Alpharius!! Then that leads me to only one conclusion: We're all Alpharius!!! but, then again, are we? we could be, but equally we may not be. How do we know Alpharius even exists? He might be an imposter! Or, maybe we are really all Alpharius, but that would be impossible, or would it? After all, in this dimension- the warp- anything could be possible! But how do we know that things are even possible? It's infinitely impossibly possible that anything at all is possible! But, wouldn't then it be infinitely improbable, not infinitely impossibly possible because things have happened, which must mean that it's entirely possible, yet improbable. Although in the warp, that may be false, then again, it may not be! Or is it? Probably not, but it could be! You will neeeeever know!!! If everything is impossible, then that in itself is a paradox!! It would be impossible for anything to be impossible, meaning that things must therefore be possible! Nyehehehehehehahahhaha!!!!!! OK, I really am Tzeentch Nyehehehehehehehehehahahahahahaaaa!!
Data Wargaming why are you such a neckbeard. Just do everyone a favour and quit it
Data Wargaming freak
Hey great battle! Just saying, casting siphon magic instead of force would have been better and the matter of fact that you get extra warp charge points is just better
What function do the nipple horns play on Magnus?
he doesnt like hugs
At 4:19 you said you gave your land raider a dozer blade. Land Raiders cannot take dozer blades.
chaos rhinos can, unlike the speesh muhrines counterpart ;)
Justin Burnside CSM hold onto the long lost secret, which allows them to put Dozer blades on Chaos Landraiders.
Interesting. Can they still charge out of the Land Raiders, even with the Dozer blade?
Justin Burnside yes because land raiders are assault vehicles
As per CSM Codex, Options: Chaos Land Raidsers may take items from the Chaos Vehicle Equipment list.
Hey Matt do you know why I prefer Dave's batreps to all the other miniwargamers? ...No pre game show!
The point of a pregame video is to put army details in another video because some people don't need them explained.
Magnus is a Deamon of Tzeentch wich makes him reroll 1's
Alcatrazz13 I believe you meant to say that Magnus is a daemon of Tzeentch. And yes, he would re-roll invulnerable saves of 1.
woops, I did goofed ^^
Really thinking of getting the Thousand Sons... just need to get the money. ._.
Dave where you been!!!
don't the sisters of silence have an invun save and psykout grenades?
very nice thousand suns army 👍👍👍👍👌👌
Herohammer, Magnus carried the team big time
I don't know if this has been mentioned... but I didn't think Magnus could be Warlord? He is a Lord of War, for sure, but cannot be the army warlord I don't think...
Joe Allen Why couldn't he be? Any model, even a troop model can be the warlord, provided they have the highest LD in the army.
Brilliant game!
Why not use magic siphon rather than force with Magnus?
a word of wisdom joke? Fellow Mormons! x3
i had no idea Perez Hilton played WH40K...
Great game... I actually like the 1k sons but whitout the warband formation they aren't cut out for more competitive games... only themed ones like this one... btw is it possible to add hellbrutes, defillers and helldrakes to 1k battleforged lists?
Black Shield you mean if thousand sons can take heldrakes and the other stuff? Because they can. And if you mean a thousand points, what would stop you ?
Black Shield you wonder if you can take hekdrakes and other stuff in a thousand sons army or in a 1000 point game? Of course you can to both
I meant if thousand sons... thanks ;)
The +1 invul for a blessing is only when the unit is blessed. Force is only on the psyker, not the unit. You'd need to cast prescience or something else that affects more than the psyker, otherwise you'd get 2+/3++ termies a little too easily, and the all termie formation for TSons would be way OP.
force is cast on the psyker and his unit check the main rule book, didn't believe it myself until i saw it.
what darkgearhead said. force affects the whole unit.
scarab occult terminators only sound scary. having only ap3 in both shooting and melee can give you massive obstacles, for instance getting locked in close combat with anything that has a 2+
Wow, that increases the awesome by +1. Though yes, the fact that there's no AP2 is kind of weak, though I guess they expect you to compensate for that in the psychic phase, or by giving the sorcerer the artifact that makes them jump termies.
Did not realise that mate smith plays warhammer...
MOAR THOUSAND SONS
Dave, when are you going to field the World Eaters Butcherhorde?!
Mister Torgue Flexington he has
When? Link?
I MUST PAINT MY MAGNUS ASAP!
Hey I just began an army of Thousands sons and I would like to know if someone had an idea about what are the essentials units, or if it's better to take some other Chaos Space Marine units like vehicules or whatever demoniac dudes
I got 3 sorcerers, Ahriman, 2x5 terminators and 10 rubrics
Any help would be appreciated !
Basile Mauvieux more rubrics!
Basile Mauvieux Rubics, land raider, mauler fiend and Magnus
hail the Crimson king
Hey Josh!
Man Dave could only make saves for Magnus everyone else he failed 90 percent of the time.
wait wait wait the sisters of silence can null even magnus the red, jeese why isnt the impirium training as many nulls as they can find still? like the emperor was doing
Why is the Whirlwind getting two shots each turn?
I'm Pretty sure those were the Vindicators battle cannons
Never mind, it was the whirlwinds, they did hardly anything though. Even with the second shot.
3:38 i just got traumatised
*GAME CHANGING FUCKUP!* you rolled THREE spawn attacks, not 2. that would have been another point.
A land raider can't have dozer blades or am I wrong?
They cannot have dozer blades. On the flip side, Vindicators get a better version of a dozer blade that just ignores the terrain, no rolls required.
Björn Johansson they can because there chaos
yeah chaos tanks can have dozer blades
All chaos tanks have access to Chaos Vehicle Equipment.
Why does Magnus have wings ?
Im not a super fan or anything, im just wondering.
JNilsson1976 Because he's a daemon prince, because he was changed into one by tzeentch
doombolt is a beam ffs
Did I just watch a whole squad of terminators die to one shot? What the hell was that?
it was two shots actually, but yeah, that really sucked
That's the exact stuff I take for 2k thou sons xD
Why does this Adam guy look like Syndrome from The Incredibles?
give us more orks!! :)
Thousand Sons looked best in Royal Blue back before they changed the paint names. This Hawk Turquoise look doesn't do the job for me.
Paint the things you want to use as you see fit. Different paint schemes keeps the hobby viable. I don't want to go play, ally up with someone and have the same paint scheme. We'll wind up Accidently stealing each others armies.
For Me 1Ksons should always be Bright Red with Gold, White and Black highlights, just because Ahiriman did his Rubric doesn't mean they are all blue in some way, shape or, form.
Why do plp focus fire invulnerable hero's like magnus when you have easier targets with less wounds. That Plasma Dev squad dropped behind the Rhinos wld have been or cld have been devastating. Open the Rhinos potentially both of them and let the Assaults charge in. Also that confers a syngery bonus for the formation.
I hate the placement of tanks on silly terrain as well. I'm hoping in 8th edition they wrote it out and stop bikes and tanks driving up walls etc.
Great Bat rep tho really good. Love the guest.
JW Well, Magnus needs to be focused and killed, otherwise he will just rape the opposing army on his own. And plus I don't think T7 W7 4++ rerolling ones is THAT hard to kill, it just needs commitment.
Time for Doc Turbonipples against the Gurlyman favoured.
Nice batrep to bad quite 1 sided match since not match to Magnus
all ways keep magnus the red in the ear don't let him on the grand he will die quickly I make that me stack.
I have the magnus the red model
😍😍😍😍
Can we please stop having green "ultramarines"
Joe DiGiorgio Why?
The paint job looks great when its on the tabletop.. i guess thats the main thing.. but up close.. yikes
EnterTheFenix What do you mean? What did you find bad in these models? In sure you're a great artist. Please show me an example of your miniatures.
go to 3:18 and pause it for an example of what i mean.. all the blending is done quite nicely to give a good effect for tabletop.... I was just surprised at how messy the detail work is, for a commission job.
That demon was so demon even his nipples had horns
The link said Ultramarines but i dont see any?
Darran Gwynne He is using ultra marines and their codex but painted as the "mini war gaming chapter".
second founding
so magnus is the madonna of the warhammer 40k universe lol
Would you please consider not doing that "BWWWWWOOOOOMMM" noise in the middle of the video? I like to watch these to wind down for the night and that scares the absolute hell out of me
this has got to be the goofiest bat rep yet
What a waste using plasma on the Devastators, I use grav and melta, I doupt Magnus would have survived and if he did he would be down 4+ wounds.
Sisters of silence have a better shadow in the warp rule then tyranids, because GW.
Sets
That's because there's 2 things GW hates more than squats, and that's sosoritas and tyranids
Terrible camerawork, almost unwatchable...
First