Gyaru From The Perspective of Black Gals 🖤 Advice & Debunking Myths About Gyaru w/ Reila & Yaya
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Come chill, hang out, and listen to 3 friends talk all about GYARU! My friends Reila (@reilaless) & Yaya (@kuroyaya) both combined have more than 25 years (!!) of experience with gyaru and are both extremely passionate about it. We talk about their perspectives on Gyaru as black gals (Reila is Afro-Latina and Yaya is Black German), whether gyaru is considered blackfishing or cultural appropriation, their experiences being gyaru in their home countries of Peru and Germany, their favorite gyaru brands, and so much more. Recently, I and many others have noticed a ton of misinformation being spread about various J-Fashion (also known as Japanese Fashion) styles so I came up with the idea on Twitter one day to start a video series where I sit down and talk to people who have been part of these communities either for more than a decade or who are extremely active in their communities. Through this series, I am hoping to share the knowledge that these J-Fashion veterans have with others about the rich history & culture of this global J-Fashion community as well those wanting to try out these fashions for themselves. Spending time with all these wonderful people has been such a delight and I have learned so much as well! We go over the history, the evolution, advice for newbies, misconceptions, and a ton of other stuff about these various styles. I really hope that this is helpful, informative, and that you have a good time learning with all of us! o((*^▽^*))o
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Thank you so much for the opportunity and space to talk about this topics! It makes me really sad to see the amount of misinformation there’s about gyaru. I hope people who are interested in the style can research a little bit more with honest intentions and refer to the comm. We’re always happy to share reliable sources and support baby gals! (*ˇωˇ*)♡
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You're not gyaru
I love that Reila and Yaya mentioned the men approaching them, asking their prices for sex work. I am from USA, but when I first moved to Australia a few years ago. I had the weirdest experience with a man follow me down the street when I was walking to the shops. asked to use my phone to call someone, and I was just being nice coz i thought he needed help. he asked me where i was going and said he was going there too, and said we should take the train it would be quicker. And I was like uhhhh no thanks, i'm fine walking, i need the exercise. lol then after that he was asking me how much i charge, and i'm like "excuse me for whatttttt??" He said he thought i was a prostitute, and wanted to go onto the train for me to "do things" to him , i'm not gonna be graphic the things he said. But I am sure you can imagine ughhhhhh. That felt so weird to me. Something I notice though maybe that is one reason Gal groups stick together in Japan, usually you will see a huuuuge group of super loud Gals who cause a scene. Maybe this is to attract attention in case anything like that does go wrong, they can attract pedestrians attention for help. but also i think female always feel safer in a group i think. it is sad it comes to this. but i think most importantly to say to people is to stay safe, no matter what fashion you choose to wear!! XX
Yeah, that was so weird to me too! It’s definitely better to go out with friends to stay safer, which is something that makes me angry too. The fact that we can’t be safe anywhere by ourselves.
So I understand when some girls (not only gals) are also afraid to go out fully dressed up or it’s common to go out in sweatpants and then changing once they meet all their friends. It’s so bad, it’s not us the ones who should be changing to stay safe, they’re the ones who should educate themselves! It’s under those thoughts that I decided to go out fully dressed from home and I would fight them if it’s necessary. 😤
@@reilaless I hope that some day the world will be safe for women and Femme presenting persons, and everyone really! To not have to worry about their safety and can go out dressed in clothes that make them feel beautiful without worrying about being harassed in the streets or possibly harmed for their outfit choices.*hugs*
this reminds me of neojaponisme’s posts on gyaru history explaining that gyaru regardless of age would get approached by older men thinking they took part in ""compensated dating"" and how gyaru was heavily stereotyped to be corrupting the youth and whatnot :( it’s heartbreaking that when women express themselves through fashion, society inteprets us in such bad faith. i’m truly so sorry that happened to you and i hope you stay safe! much love
Sadly this happen to many black women in Japan for for being attractive and black
I think being loud can ve part of the lifestyle too though. Like being yourself who cares what pple say
I would like to see yami kawaii! I know that the confusion with menhera is pretty big and that "menhera fashion" isn't really a thing over in Japan, but instead they wear Yami Kawaii? I think? I would love to have that cleared up
Thank you for your suggestion! The video on Menhera (we also touch on Yami Kawaii in it) is dropping this Saturday 😊💖
Would have been nice to include a (dark skin) black person in the video and their opinions. Very nice video interesting conversation
I totally agree! They’re still black gyarus and as a result, they provided a lot of insight on being a blk gyaru and anti blkness surrounding/in the subculture. But I would love to hear different black voices as well. Maybe African Americans and blk westerns bc of the appropriation of culture specific to that region, darker skinned gyarus bc of colorism, some blk gyarus who can attest to featurism/texturism & maybe some more trans gyarus who can talk ab the intersection between blackness, gender identity and how it relates/is seen in the community.
Just know the issue with that is, you're literally picking ONE Black human out of Billions to represent all of us. Ya get whatcha get doing that bro. It's like me picking a random Japanese human to find out what all of them think. The outcome could be good, bad, or super weird.
@@navyman4 Respectfully, that is NOT the point of this comment or any like it. OP is not claiming any small group of people can accurately represent every single black person, issue, experience, identity, etc. But when you only bring on two Black people who belong to more privileged identities within the black diaspora, you’re missing out on a lot of different experiences that can be talked about. Us as black gyarus do not expect every single black gyaru to be brought onto a panel. We just want to avoid the potential issue mentioned prior.
EXACTLY
Lmfao.
Ngl wish you would have added actual brown or dark skin gals to the discussion especially with the discrimination black gals face by some people in the community. Not denouncing their experiences in the video but like some comments said they're more racially ambiguous gals and it would have been nice to see some black folk in the community get a chance too actually speak for once. Regardless it's nice to see people speaking out more on these topics and educating others.
Exactly
Literally what I thought as soon as j saw the thumbnail
@@kittypuncherxoxo Fr ^
Also anyone can dress in Gyaru and Jfashion as long as they are enjoying it themself, enjoy dressing in what makes you happy! Happiness comes first🥰
The part about picking a job that allows one to be gyaru is sooooo relatable to me! I’ve always been berated for not going for more formal societally praising jobs but I choose jobs who can let me be me. That’s more important to me than career praise
tbh as a white person, if i were to use gyaru to rebel against beauty standards I'd probably focus on making my face really blushy and pink, give the standards are like either flawless ivory or air brushed honey tan, like having skin that is too pink is considered ugly so might as well embrace the fact that i'm a stawberry and go crazy pink with it
That's actually a really cute idea tbh.
@@Kenny-zv2wk thanks, like I've always received rude comments about my skin being too pink (I live in a typically hot and sunny place) , so it's nice to think someone think it's cute
Keiko from Jesus Diamante wore a face full of violet shimmer powder for years. Why not sis
my skin looks pink because of rosacea (dint know english term, sprry) and now im considering buying a pink wig to become a strawberry girl
Oh there’s this artist who does this! Her name is Petite Meller and she’s very pale so when she gets exposed to the sun too much she gets very red. She said that it often attracted unwanted attention and made her uncomfortable. One day she said screw it and decided to put bright red/pink blush on her face to make a statement ☺️
Not sayin anyone is anything fishing. The issue Some black gyaru has, that it obvious part of the aesthetic was inspired by black women. But people try to hard to deny it. The braided in extensions and Mcbling fashion m are very big parts of gyaru, but there roots are in Black American millennial youth culture. Due to the military and expand of foreign caused and expansion in the presents of black you in Japan in mid 90s to early 2000. I know becaue I was one of those black youths in in Japan in my teens and early 20s at the hight of the fashion.
THISSS thank you for saying this!
i’m not sure why in the gajin gyaru community it’s taboo to admit that black women(african-american woman to be specific) contributed to the start of gyaru.
Yep, I used to always get the "what's your cosplay?" questions! Doesn't happen so often now we can't go out very much though ^^;
Also wanna touch on the colourism too- in Japan (and also in the UK) it also crosses with classism since often people with darker skin were poorer and worked outdoor jobs (hence their darker skin from being out in the sun all day) and were looked down upon in society, whereas pale skin was a sign of wealth as you could either work indoors or did not need to work. Tanning is now more popular in the UK and there is less emphasis on pale skin in Japan (which maybe is why we see less Japanese kurogyaru these days and new era gyaru are often much more toned down) so these societal ideals have changed a little (although in some areas they still exist, especially in the countryside). Thank you for an informative and fun chat Yaya and Reila
Thank you so much for doing these videos! Also thank you Reila and Yaya for sharing your experiences/perspectives! ^^
Videos like these are very valuable to the gal community and the J-fashion comm as a whole! 💜💜
Very informative video! Not to discredit them, their experiences are valid, but the two ladies interviewed are rather racially ambiguous/ white passing. Would you ever try this again with some dark skinned black women 👀 excellent video nonetheless
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I agree, I feel like it would give a broader range of experiences
a bit sad that I didnt see any darkskin gals. I thought it would be important to add sense darkskin black people do get treated differently than lighterskin black people. And would of been nice to hear a perspective of a darkskin gal.
tbh the whole judging thing is something i can relate with, i saw like those mary jane shoes and wanted to wear them, but my mom looked annoyed and said thats not in fashion and that those shoes are too old to wear in this time and i just felt really gross. she isnt into any of the styles i am and the whiplash i feel when i come back from alot of nice and supportive messages about what i like to my mom being unerved and uninterested despite her saying she wants to get to know me is really saddening...
mary janes are so cute!!! i hope she comes around. keep your chin up, vintage looks are really nice
Love seeing that there’s more explanation about Gyaru styles. Love this video!!😁
As a very new gal I'm so glad you're doing videos about gyaru. Content is so rare.
YOUR SO UNDERRATED! i love your videos , keep up the outstanding work
Ahhh how did I miss this till now!!! The more I learn about Gyaru the more I fall in love with the style
Uggggghhhhh this narrative is so abrasive about Gyaru! I’m so glad you covered this cybr
the gyaru videos have been especially interesting, i loved listening to this !
I wish Boy Kuma or Reina or even DD were a part of this too. They would had some great input on these topics.
I'm very thankful that Yaya & Reila did their best to explain the controversy from their perspectives - this is a very informative video!
If they're interested, I would love to do a video with them about their experiences in the future as well! 😊
Thank you for doing these videos! thank you Reila and Yaya for sharing your experiences/perspectives! In the future I feel including Black Gals in interviews will spark more resonance in our community. There are many creators that come to mind that can contribute to this conversation like Citrusmalicious Jandoraboxboutique Tam Sez and Imani's Pink cake roll that are all Black Gyaru
🥰 this was fun and educating, thank you!
I would definitely like to see your himekaji and tsuyome transformation hahahaha
I'm loving this series!!
this is so cool, i love learning about jfashions :)
Don't forget to wear sunscreen when you tan, great video thank you guys so much for doing this!
Aloe lotions are good too 😊
OoooOoooOoo Reila! I LOVE YOUR DRESS! I HAVE THAT ONE TOO!! IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES!!
Let’s twin some day!
@@reilaless OMG YASSSS WE HAVE TO!!! 🥰🥰
love more gyaru content on youtube
I just saw both your Gyaru videos and I'm in love. I have been apart of the jfashion scene since 2014 when I was 14. I knew of Gyaru but, now that I have watched both of these I honestly knew nothing and only really knew the misconceptions. This was really wonderful to see. I never looked into the style as my aesthetic has mostly leaned towards Lolita for years now and I have a small wardrobe going but, idk... I feel bad for having had this door closed for so long and all of you helped me open it and get to start to appreciate it all. Thank you for making these videos!
Also the discord link expired... Could someone reply with a link to it? It would be really lovely to see everyone's looks and learn even more. 💕
Gonna wait for that hime kaji try video and the next Papillon physical magazine!!!
Thanks for this info!
not hating just wondering how you can say gyaru from the perspective of black gals, if theres no black gals in the vid?
Thank you for your videos
The amount of ignorance on Asian matters by people then claiming expertise is so frustrating.
NO that’s not Yamanba represents.
It’s in the name it’s a mountain yokai from Japanese folklore and has NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACK PEOPLE.
Body modification in fashion and lifestyle is usually okay, until it's about light skin going to dark.
@@elliusagi DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISNT ABOUT SKIN COLIR BASED ON RACE. It’s style emulating a supernatural creature called a mountain woman. Yamauba or Yamanba. It’s also why they have messy hair. Because westerns especially Americans can’t fathom seeing anything other than through a black and white lens of racism say stupid crap like this.
Calm down. It’s the internet.
@@teahgurl your apathy to stupid proves my point… cause those same idiots then bully and harass others based on that same ignorance or aka another day on TikTok …
Flashbacks to the drama behind getting that online magazine reader to work 😆
I feel like you should do what makes you happy in life. It is so tiring to just worry all the time what people think about you. Be Yourself. Be happy. Don't care what other's think of you. Have fun with life. Life is to short. Have a great day everyone. And whether you are tanning or not. You are welcome in my eyes. This is coming from a gyaru who accepts everyone. ❤ No matter what kind of Gyaru you are. 😊
not denouncing their blackness at all, their points are valid but they are pretty racially ambiguous especially to what mass majority of the world see as black which is a race and race is based solely on how you look especially skintone, like if they didn't say they were black/mixed I wouldn't even assume they were so I feel having them speak on blackfishing, blackface, etc is kind of redundant in a way, verses if you had dark skin racially black looking gyarus speaking on it, lol it's kind of like if lightskin black girls talked about colorism I mean sureeee they can make some points about it but they aren't the ones really effected by it
I would in contrary assume that lightskin black people are most affected by blackfishing since blackfishers, most of the time, stay clear from changing their skintone to a dark skintone, they generally tan to a point where they seem lightskin and blur the line between races. Like yewh here on the internet, these two people seem ambiguous but i can assure you that in real life they wont seem white at all, cause most people irl dont blackfish and therefore you can see the difference between a white person and a person of color.
@@laurentcathery273 racially ambiguous never equaled looking white so I don't know what you're getting at with that, and yes a lot of blackfishing, which has just become this "bronzed" tan trend is to look "mixed" or lightskin but here we are talking about gyarus where a lot of the blackfishing and tanning IS that of a dark skintone, a lot literally try to look as dark as possible sure some just tan lighter dark that would probably be their natural "dark" tan but majority reach a point of the same skintone of a natural dark brown, black person, and I'm not say all are doing in a mockery way cause some really say "black is beautiful" and like being dark skin but it gets projected that way to black people especially those naturally that skintone when they've probably been
ridiculed for it
completely agree. i know a couple of darkskin gyarus like dd.kyoko and noveqie, i think itd have been great if they were included in this discussion.
I agree...especially with styles like manba I think it'd be better to hear a dark skinned gyaru's thoughts on it
@@owo2497 not too sure what point you're trying to make or what exactly you're speaking on in regards to my comment
um please change the title, i know u meant well to be pc by the intro but this is very misleading as these are bipoc but not racially black ppl
like why not title the video w visibly black gyaru this title ...did you just wanna be searchable? that would actually aid in appropriately including everyone which i see is what you try to do
28:00 just a time stamp for gyaru brand/ store recommendations
Black?
……. Black ? 🤨 👀 lmao
It's interesting to me
This was lovely video about gyaru.
Very sad to hear about judgmental society, and awesome to hear their experiences as well as various opinions on different gyaru subtypes and living as one.
I really feel like there is a lot of rules in gyaru fashion though. It's a bit of a tough one to get into.
I agree that having a dark skinned gyaru speak on this topic would’ve added another layer of insight, but let’s stop the eugenics arguments in the comment section please. This is not a forum on whether a complete stranger’s identity is valid in your home country or not. This is about getting a wider range of perspectives of gyarus in different bodies, which again, the more diverse the range the better, so having a dark skinned gyaru would’ve made for an amazing and well-rounded interview (rather than just an okay interview). Let’s stay on topic without scrutinizing and attacking these girls for literally just existing❤
Its not eugenics? Not sure if you know what that term even means...
Anyways, To put it bluntly, white-passing individuals typically go through an different experience than that of people who are identifiably POC. So to have those who are white passing answer for the majority of "black gals" as the title implies is very misleading because the experience is inherently different. This is very much on topic, and no one is trying to demean the girls in the video by stating the obvious..
@@Kitazia right…like lol… sorry but if it weren’t for the comment section saying those girls were black I would not have known. people gotta stop and call a spade a spade🤷♂️ upholding the one drop rule to cape for “white passing” (honestly, let’s just call it what it is, biracials) individuals when the topic is about the perspective of “black” Gyarus crazy. All of this is a symptom of colourism in the west and having biracials be the face of black women. You would NEVER see this fly with a topic about “black men”
You gotta look up the teen eugenics… Girlie they very much look like white individuals (top girl) bottom girl looks racially ambiguous to me. If you took their faces and compared them to what the majority of black people look like across the diaspora, the contrast would be like night and day. 😂 y’all are too hilarious.
6:28 so she basically is trying to say that you cant tan when youre white? Okay but not all white ppl are super pale. For example I'm southern european. Alot of Balkan, turkish ppl and so on don't have pale skin or are we not considered White? (idk) I get rlly naturally tanned in summer. But I can't do it cuz I'm White? I have a feeling that those ppl only see the World in back and white... There are tons of other different races and simply saying you cant tan cuz your white doesnt make sense to me
Like how can ppl generalize on "whites" when its basically not true. What about slavic ppl or as a mentioned Balkan ppl living in countries like the US, germany, france and so on. Tan skin is not the beauty Standard for them. So what is it now. The country they originate from or the country the live in. Yk what I mean? Its a bit struggle for me personally. Cuz I feel like not even being accepted by the Gyaru community for such things. For tanning or not tanning.
You obviously can tan but if you’re tanning and changing your appearance to the point where you look like a different race there’s a problem
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I find it incredulous and honestly disappointing that this video is supposed to represent black voices in j-fashion yet you couldn't tell that these women were black unless they told you.
Omg just Dress how you want and if people have a problem with it it’s their problem 7:02
Black gyaru: "Tan to your natural tanning point."
Me (a fat white girl who can barely tan): "Welp, looks like I can't do tsuyome".
Light skin needs to be prepaired to receive melanin, especially if you have any skin condition tanning will NOT be easy thing! 😂
There are carotine tablets to start with, and instead of solarium I recommend just spending time outside in the sun, having a walk, go to swim, picnic and so on.
Always wear max sun protecting lotion (and protect your hair and face from too much sun). In the evening put generously after-sun lotion and glow boost lotion/toner for tanning. You can ask those from any skincare shop or search online.
Tanning asks for patience, and it is something many light skin do wrong and get bad results. You can tan, just remember: preparation and patience. You'll look fabulous 😍🌺
i think if you want to you can do tsuyome without tanning, please don't give up!!! it's ok not to tan theres lots of non tan gyaru
also tanning creams exist too which can do fake tan
Hey cutie, is it true you did a video interviewing Niccu and Hekku but decided not to publish it? Just want to say that a lot of ppl in the gyaru comm got your back. They're both toxic and don't represent the community.
this would be very interesting and with all respect to everyone involved but these girls aren’t even brown and considering we’re talking about extreme tans in the gyaru scene… it makes no sense to me
I’m just saying, but y’all know this would never fly if it was a topic about black men perspectives about something and the featured the male equivalent of these two 🤷♀️
Tbh they’re 100% white-passing so I don’t think they were really the right person to try to be a mouthpiece for black decoras.
I wouldn’t say the bottom girl looks white but I would’ve never known the chick on the left is poc at all without her saying 😭💀
This ❕❕❕
Honestly it's frustrating you picked women who look as tan as white women in California. Not saying they're not black, but they're not even dark skinned. I won't watch this one.
Hi there! So I wanted to address this as I do understand where people's frustrations are coming from regarding the chosen gals for this video. I was originally approached by one of these gals to make this video & to talk about this important topic (which is gyaru from the POV of POC) and they gave me suggestions for the second gal who will be in the video as well. Now I'm not putting the blame on these gals, I should've asked for more suggestions of darker skinned POC. But I really hope that no one takes away the fact that these two gals are black, and I appreciate you agreeing with that fact. They requested that I title this as "...Perspective of Black Gals" as they themselves are black. I think it's important to hear experiences from as many people as possible in the community. And I do have plans to make another gyaru from the POV of POC video, this time with dark skinned black gals. This J-Fashion series is on a little hiatus at the moment while I work through a lot of stuff going on but that'll be the first one that I'll make after I finish working on the Decora one I filmed way back in Oct/Nov. If you and anyone else has suggestions for people to feature in that video, please let me know and I will contact them to work on it. Thank you for your time and for your comment.
@@cybrgrl Love your response here. While I agree that I would not have known these women were POC without them telling me they were - I am noticing a distinct lack of suggestions from the commentors with options of dark skinned POC for you to interview in your second Gyaru video.
When will she cover mori kei....?
i think she might soon !
@@bubblesrays I like mori kei it's a cute fashion and I'm thinking of getting into it
@@snowqueen_8958 yay yay mori kei is adorbs !! im getting into decora and gyaru ! (=｀ェ´=)
They are not gyaru
i couldnt understand a thing they said-
Blackness is phenotypical. If you visibly do not look black, you are not black. You may be mixed etc. So while I think everyone in this chat is lovely (and I do think that), you did not interview "black gals."
I hope my question doesn't insult anyone. I genuinely don't understand why wearing fashion typical to poc or wanting to have a hair style with small braids or preferring darker skin color is seen as "black fishing" or "cultural appropriation", but poc borrowing things from the white cultures is seen as just neutral or positive thing. I mean, isn't it bad for the poc cultures if it's always seen negative if anyone wants to wear their style to any degree?
I feel like it shouldn't be seen as a negative & degrading thing as a default, because people do admire different cultures and not just the white ones. So if we have double standards for who can wear what style, poc culltures will always remain alienating and "exotic" instead of familiar and cool to the majority of people. If people felt more free to wear whatever, they'd become more mainstream, more appreciated and just a beautiful part of fashion culture, not "a race thing" like it's always made to be.
The definition of cultural appropriation is when someone takes something from another culture or race and claims that they made it and that it's theirs...as well as just pretending to be a part of said race or culture, or just say and do things in a disrespectful and mocking way. In my opinion and I'm not going to try to speak over black ppl (like I'm not black enough to really say if it's bad or not when it comes to braids or dreads. In fact, I've talked to some of my friends and some of them said that the reason that they have an issue with whyte (had to spell it weird bc yt) ppl wearing those styles is bc it's damagining for their hair. Since whyte ppl don't have the same hair texture as them which I agree with and understand. Like it can cause a lot of breakage. I've gotta my hair done with like 5 braids on the side and the rest being wavy but I did get it done in Mexico, and ik that some ppl are gonna get angry at me bc I did that but I'm like Hispanic and I just got it done bc I think that they look cute and I was NOT doing it to try to look black. So yeah, everyone's always gonna have a different opinion bc that's life. My advice is to just try to be respectful but if you're just whyte and not mixed of a poc then I would just stay away from doing those styles. Like I'm even nervous abt getting it done bc I'm mixed and look ambiguous so it would just make things worse for me. But yeah for other things that I can actually speak abt...when it comes Hispanic/Mexican stuff I wouldn't find it offensive if anyone wore like a jalisco dress, sombrero, pancho, etc...as long as they aren't being disrespectful. Tbh it would just make me happy if anything. But yeah I don't speak for every hispanic or mexican person, this is just my opinion on the matter. When it comes to black culture I recommend just talking to multiple black ppl, bc it's the sensible thing to do.
But yeah just don't try to look like a whole different race, love yourself and just accentuate the features that you already have. I hope you have a nice day~
Oh I forgot to mention that the reason poc ppl take whyte things is bc their features and culture were seen as ugly, barbaric, and weird by many whyte ppl throughout history so they do so to fit in with toxic beauty standards, and it's not just bc of whyte ppl but also just bc of colorism in general amongst poc ppl.
@@Kenny-zv2wk I feel your definition of cultural appropriation is the original one. However, these days it literally takes nothing else than a white person wearing something recognizable from any POC culture in public, and the chances are it's gonna be called cultural appropriation. It on and itself is seen disrespectful that a white person wears it (has any association with it), they don't have to do anything especially or to be over-the-top to be seen as disrespectful.
I've never heard of the "bad for your hair type" argument but it's always the "cultural appropriation" argument with the braids. You don't even know if the person is gonna have them for a day or a week or how long. It's just a hair style.
Imo it's the center of the problem that people have to be afraid to even talk about it. It's such a pity that fashion and style is disabled by political correctness. That will just alienate us from each others, instead of finding things we have common and things to connect around. I wish people could trust and love rather than distrust and hate each others. Everyone doesn't always have malicious aims. It's as irresponsible to see everyone (in one group) that way as it is to (actually) appropriate cultures.
@@Kenny-zv2wk I doubt a white person for example wearing braids is trying to do that. Rather the white person is just seen as "too privileged" to "earn the right to wear the style". I think any style can accentuate the features of any ethnicity/race beautifully.
You're talking about gyaru with two non-black women. We have enough issues with the black fishing girls on Instagram. I've seen this style and it is definitely blackface/black fishing. Talking to two non-black individuals is who are only there to support the gyaru style seems off to me.
while every persons perspective matters maybe don’t put “black gals” in title of video if the guests aren’t actually black cause I’m sure a darker toned persons experiences are way different if not worse. Like, maybe put “mixed gals” or something along those lines if you’re going to make it that specific. Imagine how you would feel if u came across a video that seems to represent your race but when you watch it it’s not so. i even showed this to my husband to make sure I wasn’t being crazy. Without any context I just showed him the title and then showed him the video and his reaction was the same as mine. And being that he’s a civil rights lawyer he felt the title was wildly misleading and doesn’t help the black community at all. Also you might get accused of black fishing. Just my thoughts. Your videos are adorable just fix the title of this one. 😬
Most Gyaru girls I have seen here in the USA are black so no it's not racist at all it's just fashion
lol do people actually use blackfishing as an unironic term
hopefully gyaru wont be stereotyped in the future but fat chance with people who believe in cultural appropriation
Cultural appropriation is a thing, so is Blackfishing
This was not the take you thought it was. Blackfishing and Cultural Appropriation are VERY real things
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@@milkmancatcher1996 it exists as a concept but definitely not an issue
blackfishing is just twitter jargon lol
idk why people in these niche fashion communities always have to subscribe to this shit
@@niyabiya2853 get with the times
Def agree with commenter. Should've included actual black people instead of white gyaru that darken their skin.
how are they white please explain maybe stop being colorist and picking and choosing who can and can't be black
@@alana9979 they're literally Europeans lmao idk what to tell u
They're quite obviously not white tho???
Ok to clarify, I see one of them is not white, but you have to understand that gyaru fashion takes elements that are innately from black culture and none of these people are black. Feed in braids were in no way popular outside of the black american population until they brought it to foreign cultures around the globe with pop culture. The problem is that people use these aspects of black culture for fashion, and give no credit where it's due, some even go so far as to darken their skin to look " exotic" and call themselves "black girls" which is pretty questionable unto itself. This in no way means that gyaru is bad, but when white people choose to dress in this style, they need to be aware that by trying to fit into "gyaru" style, they could actually be doing something disrespectful. Gyaru didn't invent many elements of its style, it borrowed a lot and put it all together into something new.
@@lars6104 EXACTLY, but then ppl wanna act like black ppl didn’t also inspire gyaru as well, so infuriating, like it’s obvious, the Y2K inspo, the hairstyles, the nails, the tanning for some substyles, disco inspiration. Etc smh