NEW! Patagonia Black Hole Pack Matte Duffel 40 Review and Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- An update to the classic packable travel duffel, Patagonia Black Hole Duffel 40L, now with Matte fabric and now 48 liters!
💼 - Patagonia Black Hole Duffel 40L (Patagonia)
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💼 - Patagonia Black Hole Duffel 40L (REI)
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Patagoina Black Hole Duffel Specs (2023 Version):
Cost: $159
Capacity (Listed): 40 liters
Capacity (Measured): 47-48 liters
Dimensions: 19.7" x 12.5" x 8.5" (48.5 x 27.5 x 18 cm)
Style: Top loading
Weight (Listed): 2.3 lbs (1.045 kg)
Weight (Actual): 2.34 lbs (1.06 kg)
Laptop: None
Materials: 900D ripstop polyester; TPU Laminate YKK Zips
Origin: Made in Vietnam
Patagoina Black Hole Duffel Specs (2022 Version):
Cost: $129.00
Capacity: 40 liters
Dimensions: 21" x 13.7" x 10.6" (53 x 35 x 27 cm)
Style: Duffel
Weight: 2.0 lbs (0.93 kg)
Laptop: None
Materials: 900D ripstop polyester; TPEU laminate; YKK zips
Origin: Made in Vietnam
Patagoina Black Hole Duffel Specs (2019 Version):
Cost: $129.00
Capacity: 45 liters (2019 version is now 40 liters)
Dimensions: 21″ x 13.7″ x 10.6″ (53 x 35 x 27 cm)
Style: Duffel bag, convertible backpack straps
Weight: 1.69 lbs. (0.77 kg)
Laptop: No
Materials: 900 denier polyester ripstop, TPU laminate, DWR finish
Origin: Manufactured in Vietnam
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Patagonia Black Hole Duffel Contents:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - Size Comparison
3:01 - Capacity test 🥜
4:07 - Fabric update
5:11 - Design updates
6:10 - Carry Comfort
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Forgot to mention the weight in the video: Patagonia lists two different weights on the product page: 1,045 g (2 lbs 1 oz) and 2 lbs 4.9 oz (1045 g)
The second is the correct one, and fairly accurate when I weighted it on my scale, my weight was 2.34 lbs (2 lbs 5.4 oz) / and 1060 g.
Your reviews are so unbelievably detailed and thorough! Thank you!
Thanks, glad you like them =)
The measurement discrepancy is so frustrating as one is usually trying to find the right size bag for airline restrictions. Thanks for your comprehensive sizing.
I agree, which is why I think it's helpful to compare them against the specs on the website.
Nice! I knew I could count on your channel for a review on the new Patagonia black hole duffel. This was very informative and it's nice to see your channel growing! I remember when I found your channel you had just over 1k subscribers
Thanks for watching, I'm over 20k now! =)
I appreciate you including dimensions, I was shocked that it was so much smaller than the old one and didn’t buy it because of this.
The listed dimensions aren't quite accurate, the new bag here is actually larger than the old one, see the peanut capacity test at 3:01
Thanks for your diligence with this!
Patagonia also updated the zippers with lockable loops (holes), curiously missing from the previous version.
They did! Hah, thanks for that catch, I didn't even notice they did that. Good upgrade.
Maybe because they offer no security. You can open any zipper with a ballpoint pen and even zip it back up.
@@mrjakobt Can do this pretty much on any bag with nylon zips
I like your capacity measurement method very much. Dimensions matter to me as I travel on budget airlines in Europe and Asia. The newbag looks much better than the old one... which looked like a second-rate gym bag.
It is much larger. I actually seem these a lot in airports, it holds a ton but isn't a great carry. I use it more for car camping rather than air travel.
@@OneBagTravels Do you have a current favorite travel backpack which also doubles as a duffel (with handles)?
@@Yowzoe Hmmmm. Most duffel backpacks are either a good duffel, or a good backpack, not both. Patagonia Mini MLC is kind of like a duffel style, it has good backpack straps and a shoulder carry strap, but doensn't have duffle carry handles. Osprey Daylite duffel is a really good duffel, simple and light, but it's not a good backpack.
do you think this one would fit better as a carry on than the 55l? I’m still kind of torn between the two. I’m afraid that the 40 liter one would be too small but and the 55 too big. But now that it’s more lik 45-47liters this smaller one is quite compelling
This one would be better for that, the bigger one would be way too big for a carryon
Excuse me, could you please tell me if the new one is waterproof?? Thanks
The fabric is waterproof but the seams aren't, and it has a flap over the zipper that will protect it from the top, but not if the bag is sideways when you carry it like a backpack. It will repel water for the most part, but out in the rain the water will get through.
Would the new version still be considered a carry on if it’s more like 47l?
Good question, max volume of many airlines carry on dimensions is 22x14x9, which is about 45 liters. This bag is so squishy it basically has no structure you you're able to fit a lot in here and go way over the listed capacity. I think you'd be fine for most carry-on limits, just make sure you dont' over-pack the duffel.
Can’t tell from the video but looks like your matte version has the same pinching as mine near the “a” on the small zip side. Guessing it’s from how the bag stows inside itself causing a stretching when they ship it. Does your old version have that too? How do you think the laminate will fair (assuming yours is pinched like mine).
Do you mean the crease? Yes I think that's just where the fold the bag to stow it. The older version seemed to have issues with peeling and delaminating for heavily worn bags, or would crack if exposed to a lot of UV light. I imagine this would be worse where the bag was folded. The new fabric doesn't have the same shiny exterior laminate so I suspect it will hold up better to that kind of wear but I haven't had it long enough to find out.
@@OneBagTravels exactly, the crease. Mine came creased right below the small pocket zipper to the right of the logo and left of the webbing. Almost to the point of looking pinched like the laminate could be weaker there now. Like if you folded wax paper really tightly. Looking at more photos it looks like it’s pretty typical of these bags. I’m sure I’m overthinking it, but just want to be sure my investment (let’s face it, these things are an investment in good travel gear 🙂) will be good for years to come.
Awesome reviews, by the way. I’ve gone down a rabbit hole of your gear reviews since discovering your channel. Thank you for your efforts!
@@joevargo22 Yeah I could see that being an issue, but I don't notice the crease in my older duffel, so I imagine the crease will go away over time if you don't fold it back. I'd be curious to hear if it develops a crack or delaminates there though. Thanks!
@@OneBagTravels Wanted to ask one more thing. Any chance you might have plans to do an old vs new model comparison of the 55L as well? I would love to see how volume actually shakes out. On paper, the outgoing 55L measures WAY bigger. But the actual physical measurements I'm coming up with on the new model are way bigger than what Patagonia has on their website for H x L x W. I understand that manufacturer measuring standards are not nearly as scientific as your packing peanut test. I love your method.
@@joevargo22 Probably not for the 55L, it's too big for anything I would use it for. But since Patagonia's measurements are all over the place I wouldn't be surprised if it was bigger than the listed specs as well.
What do you guys think about the REI Co-op bags?
We love REI bags, the Big Haul and Ruckpack are good bags for the price.
Are these ok the use as carry on luggage on a plane?
Probably but depends on your ticket, you need to check the airlines carry on policy
Wouldn't it be easier/ more accurate to do the measurements when the bags are still full of packing peanuts?
Thanks for another great video🙂
Yes you're probably right. I think in general this bag is weird to measure because it tapers and is kind of a round sack, but I should have measured when full.
It almost seems like there are 2 different sizes available, and they sent you the larger one. Hard to believe a major manufacturer could be so incompetent 🤔
The next size up is the 55L. I guess they could have sent me that one by mistake, I don't really have any way of knowing since the specs on the one I have would be wrong for both of these. But either way Patagonia is notorious for their specs being wrong, they also listed the weight differently on the same product page, so I'm inclined to think they could have made either mistake 😆
MLC 45L looks better day by day, unless this one is significantly lighter.