Last guy’s quote was the kicker. ”I’m not ready to have this on all the time. Physically and Socially…they are not prepared for a cyborg to enter the room.”
I’ve had it since launch and still every time impressed. Entertainment is a most case but mac pairing has been game changing and looking at your photos and videos is pretty next level. I just feel sooo dumb wearing it by people. Doing the dishes has never been the same though lol
@@B-RaDD when doing dishes with my iPad my hands are wet and it’s off to the side so a little uncomfortable.. with Vision Pro i dont have to dry my hands to change anything and I can have multiple screens in a better view
Ah - the haters are out in force. How to say "I didn't watch the video" without actually saying it. Of course it's not perfect, but they all really like it.
If this thing isnt for you, that's cool, but hating on people that do like or have it is just so lame. I'm too grown and comfortable to worry about what it looks like in public. I've had it on a plane and it was fantastic. Also took it on vacation on a cruise ship and it was fantastic there too. I'm also grown (cough...old...cough) enough to remember how people thought the early adopters of cell phones looked like morons from a dystopian future. Same went for the AirPods. This too shall pass.
For me, as someone who’s been using VR headsets for years, I liked the hype around it because I thought it would result in an explosion of new VR apps and experiences for ALL vr headsets, but it hasn’t had any noticeable impact at all. Meta and the Quest 3 still seems to be the epicentre of all things VR at the moment, no one even talks about the Vision Pro at all anymore. Plus, they’ve taken way too long to launch it in other countries so people around the world who were eagerly anticipating it have lost interest.
Weird how no one talks about Spatial and Immersive Media. It's pretty obvious that Apple is banking on Spatial Video and Photos. The panoramic photo viewing experience is highly under rated. I am surprised that real estate folks are not jumping all over this. You can create high quality panos on smartphones today. Viewing them in the Vision Pro is surprisingly immersive. If you haven't tried it, you don't know.
The Onion once did a piece where a guy said, "I'll buy anything if it's shiny and made by Apple." The first dude's reason was, in essence, was the same thing. Apply users are their own satire.
I'm all for the future of XR and I love that Apple joined the space even though this headset is questionable at best for the average consumer. I just don't understand why technological improvements get so much hate, even with a company like Apple.
All the hate comments haven’t even seen the video. They’re mostly positive about the device. Only price and certain features need to get better. Wait till this thing is in the third version. You don’t wanna know how good it’ll be.
when alicia keys was singing it borderline shocked me with a bit of fear cos that shiz was SO realistic. none of these videos on it will ever do it justice. something you have to experience.
@@overcomingwithin I totally agree. The dinosaur looked so real that I put my hand out to touch it's nose. It snapped at my hand, and I fell off my seat in shock. 🤭
I had my demo last week and it was special, but it wasn’t so much better than on my Meta Quest 3. The Vision Pro is clearly better, but the price is simply too high. 90% of the experience can be done with the Meta Quest.
The best part of this video is that guy who was wearing Meta Ray bans and saying he'd prefer something more like them. Thats Apples competition 100%. Thats actually the product that gets produced because of these Quest and Vision VR systems: AR smart glasses.
It's a device and platform in development. You won't hear about it then within a few years, Apple glasses will be here and you'll feel so lost. then an even more consumer refined Vision headset will show up.
I have one, i do a podcast and write about it. But right now, for about 95% of non-tech enthusiasts, they are better off waiting until it matures more and gets to a sub $1500 price.While the tech is impressive, its more a novelty than productive tool (at this point in time). Give 2-3 years.
Have you used it with your MacBook yet? I’ve read the productivity is actually good. I’m thinking about getting one with that as the main use case. Thoughts?
@@TheBachuki07the difference in AVP and Quest 3 are: there's more Owners watching 1080p Netflix and playing VR games than there are AVP owners watching 4k content. Millions more.
I was able to finally try them in a store this week. Honestly, great device, amazing eye tracking, image quality, and hand tracking. But pricing for my use case and available apps for my workflow flow, still not a need. It’s a VERY expensive fancy futuristic toy. Cameras lack quality, M2 is already late and can improve a lot with M4 or M5… definitely waiting what happens with the next couple of generations…
Apple made a nice VR headset and people think it’s some amazing new tech. Way way cheaper options available, VR is cool for about 1-2 days then it’s like blah. Our VR head set is somewhere under the bed I think, not really sure where it is.
I think the super high resolution screen, the controls and interface, and the extremely high quality pass through is what puts it into a different category than any other VR headset. That's not to say I think people should be paying the current price for the headset, or that I think it's currently worth it... but as a "vision" for the future, I think they're going down the right path, and a cheaper model that keeps the high quality screen and pass through will eventually be a big hit, especially if Apple invests in creating some high quality movies/tv/media that really utilizes the tech.
Still never heard anyone talk about using it for productivity because no one wants to wear it for more than an hour or two because it’s uncomfortable. Using it to write an email is fine. Using it to work for an 8 hour day? No one does that.
@@Sliceoftoni You're saying you wear your vision pro for 8 hours a day? One person mentioned the generic word productivity with no other details. Another person said they would edit video on theirs (I've not heard of ANYONE intentionally doing this). What kinds of software are even available on this to assist with your work? There's no real computing power. So, you're ... what ... using it for web browser interfaces for the software setups you use? I don't want to pry, but I'm trying to get an idea for the kind of work you do and what kind of impact the hardware would have on you. I'm a software engineer. The fundamental IDE I would need to write code doesn't exist for them. I could ... do web interface stuff for some of my work. Certainly email and slack. But, for real work this would just function as a $4,000 monitor set up for my macbook pro.
@@Sliceoftoni What do you do for work? One person vaguely said they "use it for productivity" but didn't specify. How many hours do you spend using this for work when you're using it for work? Literally every single video I've seen about it specifically says it's uncomfortable to wear for more than an hour or two. There also are minimal apps on it to actually get work done. So, the best use case for productivity is to use it as a $4,000 monitor for a separate macbook pro or whatever (which costs another 3k+). The channel 6 Months Later just released a video on it today. They also said it's not useful for productivity.
Not everyone is the same. Comfort levels are case by case and I've met people in VRchat who practically live there. The Vision Pro has its audience of power users I'm sure. Me being a Quest 3 owner I can go without using it, or maybe a few hours at a time. Sometimes it's nice to spend stormy/blizzard day with VR.
I can see things like this being big in the future, but not yet. We are a long way away from these things becoming mainstream. Especially given the price and the bulkiness of the thing.
Thought it was dumb prior to release, in the early days, and still do. If you need a tethered battery pack at all times, why not offset some of the computing to the thing in your pocket rather than the thing you need to wear on your face? I really wish Apple went with like Xreal type glasses and computing being done elsewhere rather than going with putting everything on your face.
Apples design philosophy dictates that all components are built as close together as possible, to mitigate latency. Off loading the processing into the battery pack would be the opposite.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Unless it is adding latency and lowering audio quality to audio by removing moving a wire. Maybe Apple should try something new in VR segment, like not strapping a computer to the face. Might be too much to ask of Apple to fix the existing problem in VR space... you know create powerful hardware that actually can be used for long periods of time.
@@MarcusWarcus40 went well! Facebook marketplace, met the guy in person in front of our local Apple Store. Made sure I could get my iCloud signed in and all went fine. I agree $3500 plus tax is too steep but yeah, $2k cash, that’s the right price for the tech as it stands.
So apart from watching movies on it, what else is it good for? Failing to see any kind of purpose honestly. Same as iPad, which is still super expensive toy used to mostly watch movies and answer an email.
Not to argue, but it’s a specific user use case thing. Like I use my iPad all the time as a pro drawing tablet, and the Vision Pro is currently more of a proof of concept, but is great for developers because it lets you arrange a ton of monitors.
@@alexbroskin5120I’m a software engineer. I have friends who ONLY work in AR and VR space. No one uses stuff like this for work. You go to their offices and it’s a room of engineers with stacks of various devices (this included) and they work on normal monitors like normal people. They put on devices when they need to test things. People are NOT using these for 8 hour work days. It’s not comfortable enough. The weight is awkward and it’s heavy on the head. It’s also not got the specs to be used for a lot of types of software development. It’s more of an iPad on your face than an upspec MacBook Pro. So, it isn’t like you’re going to spin up multiple virtual environments to build a database, a server, a front end each running different code on a virtual machine environment while separately you have another stable environment to handle other work all being handled by the hardware (which works fine on a MacBook Pro once you upspec it). No one is using this to really edit content. You’ve seen the MKBHD videos where he talks about it. MKBHD isn’t going to be editing video content on one of these. Just like he doesn’t do it on an iPad Pro. It’s POSSIBLE, but if you have 4k for this you also have a real computer which will be faster. It’s a fantastic proof of concept. The tech will be better in 20 years. These people are fanatics and bought it because they’re early adopters (they would have bought anything) and they’re just happy with their little toy. It’s NOT for productivity. Most people who talk about it find it hard to wear for a full movie, and certainly can’t wear it to binge watch a series for more than 1-2 episodes. And THAT is the biggest use people have for it. People LOVE it for watching media … but only for short durations.
@@V21bhthose people are just desperately trying to justify their purchase. I’m a software engineer. I meet a lot of early tech adopters who are hopelessly trapped in a product and trying to justify it. It’s NOT useful for productivity because it’s so uncomfortable. Someone said they use it to edit videos … except vision OS is garbage. So, what they really do is use it like a $4,000 monitor for their $3,000 laptop. Except they also run into comfort problems if the edit goes longer than an hour or two. This was a hideously biased video. Lots of channels are doing 6 month reviews right now. I don’t doubt that these people all wished what they were saying was true. Pretty universally the only thing people REALLY use this for is watching an hour or two of TV or a movie and then taking it off due to discomfort.
Got one, love the vision os -but I'm going to return the face brick!- (See update to my comment below and in reply) It's like a fancy looking brick on my face, vision os (Vision OS 2 even better) is great which is what these people are really talking about but I can't get immersed or remain immersed because of the weight of a brick on my face unless I get a nerdier headstrap like a halo. -So going to return it- until we get a vision air or vision pro 2 without some of the gimmicky tech like the front lcd display and hopefully using lighter materials. The battery brick and it's cable is annoying but I rather have an annoying brick in my pocket then on my head! So I'm ok with that surprisingly. UPDATE: So a few days ago I made myself a modded head strap out of velcro cable ties, just to help support the weight while still using the solo strap, the self made velcro strap is kind of hidden on my head because of my hair and the weight distribution has been great. So good that I'm now split and I'm leaning towards keeping the headset. Being able to use the headset without discomfort for longer period of time has made get hooked on the Vision OS (with Vision OS 2) and with the upcoming improvements to the extended macbook monitor feature I'm now not so sure about returning it.
I also like that you'll be able to easily replace the battery several years down the line without having to do surgery on the headset as well. And they could easily release a high capacity battery at some point as well, etc. I get your complaint about the weight, but you should definitely consider a better headstrap first.
So a few days ago I made myself a modded head strap out of velcro cable ties, just to help support the weight while still using the solo strap, the self made velcro strap is kind of hidden on my head because of my hair and the weight distribution has been great. So good that I'm now split and I'm leaning towards keeping the headset. Being able to use the headset without discomfort for longer period of time has made get hooked on the Vision OS (with Vision OS 2) and with the upcoming improvements to the extended macbook monitor feature I'm now not so sure about returning it.
I should point out it's still heavy but it's all about weight distribution, one thing that made me realise that Vision Pro is not so bad was a review I saw by Upload VR for the new upcoming Varjo headset that weights about twice as much as the Vision Pro but apparently with the provided headstrap that comes with the headset the weight is so well distributed that he could hardly tell the weight. So Apple really did a horrible job there, and the after thought jock strap is not comfortable at all!
I was not interested in the Vision Pro before last week, but I tried at the Apple Store while my iPhone was being repaired and was completely blown away - I have been thinking about buying ever since!
Apple Engineers should really pay attention to Doug Trumbull's BRAINSTORM, to see how a great idea shrinks to something wearable, rather than something which wears you.
It's such a shame you can't choose and customize your persona to look exactly how you want it😡. Instead, it's just based on your real face. HUGE dealbreaker for people who are ugly like me and want to use VR as a way too escape that. The Meta Quest 3 on the other hand, allows you to choose everything about your appearance. You can be as hot and pretty of a girl as you want, which is pretty much the main reason I even use the Quest in the first place, ngl. While the Meta avatars do look a bit too cartoonist in my opinion, I still MUCH prefer them over the restrictive personas on the AVP
I feel it was the right product at the wrong time. Our real world already feels too dystopian to feel comfortable adding even more artificiality on top of it. I wish Apple would stop acting like they’re God’s gift to humanity and start valuing the beauty of human imperfection.
Two things kill it. 1) price 2) DORK factor. I’m a DORK (and all in on Apple) and I’m self-conscious about wearing the Oculus near the windows in my own home. In public… LMAO.
I don't think you should feel weird wearing it in your home, but certainly this form factor is not meant to be worn out in public (despite the hilarious videos of people doing just that). Though, I do think the airplane-ride use case is amazing, so there are exceptions. Also, just in terms of VR headsets, this one is by far the prettiest one out there.
Dude uses this to edit content?! Of all the UA-camrs who got this that’s the absolutely only person I’ve heard say they would use it for editing. That feels … less than believable. It’s basically an iPad on your face. No one I’ve heard of is intentionally using an iPad to edit (when they have other options).
@@joelface that is about an 8k computer setup. It had better be absolutely amazing. 4k just on monitors seems … insane to me. You’d still run into fatigue issues though. Longer form videos take a long time to edit. And, most people who have them and enjoy them don’t like to wear them for more than an hour or two. That still feels like a pretty big problem. Channels like MKBHD have spoken about this at length. They have the Vision Pro. They have the MacBook pros. They still don’t use the Vision Pro to edit even with it in the room. Yeah? Lots of UA-camrs have these. How many do you think are actually using them? People like these for watching movies … if they can wear it comfortably for the full duration of the movie. And, that seems to be it.
@@zero11010I wear my AVP for over 10 hours each day, it’s completely changed my entire work flow. Ergonomically, I think it’s actually better than a handheld device, or a laptop for that matter.
Since they didn’t, I will. There are plenty of enterprise apps on the visionOS App Store, including the Microsoft Office Suite, Box, and Apple’s iWork programs. There are also a ton of compatible apps which are ported over from iPad. And of course you have Mac Virtual Display, so you can use any Mac app in the AVP
I’m an Apple fan but this is next level weirdness of Apple fanboism. I think each and everyone in this video convinced themselves to buy a Vision Pro and are still trying to find a use for it.
Have you tried one of these systems, AVP or A Meta Quest 3? They have multiple uses cases when it comes to entertainment value. The only off putting thing about them are the fact that both are quite large at this stage. Smart raybans with displays and interaction will be wildly popular wearables.
Mostly hype and would be a waste of money for most people. Apple has a huge base that just wants something that is easy to use and simple, this is not that and probably will never be.
It really isn’t a gimmick… It can do myriad of things both for work and play and is an incredible experience. If you live near an Apple store, I would definitely recommend doing a demo of it.
If it doesn’t come with that dude’a top hat as an accessory, I’m not interested.
Made me laugh real hard😂😂😂😂😂😂
Last guy’s quote was the kicker. ”I’m not ready to have this on all the time. Physically and Socially…they are not prepared for a cyborg to enter the room.”
People are never ready for new tech
People were saying Apple Watch, AirPods were failures when they first came out. People are just dumb
Their faces wearing AVP:
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lol 😎
I’ve had it since launch and still every time impressed. Entertainment is a most case but mac pairing has been game changing and looking at your photos and videos is pretty next level. I just feel sooo dumb wearing it by people. Doing the dishes has never been the same though lol
Explain the dishes comment please?
@@B-RaDD when doing dishes with my iPad my hands are wet and it’s off to the side so a little uncomfortable.. with Vision Pro i dont have to dry my hands to change anything and I can have multiple screens in a better view
not the guy in the top hat saying that facetime in a vision pro is “too weird.”
😂😂😂😂
If anyone needed another reason to avoid Apple Vision Pro, this video is it.
Ah - the haters are out in force. How to say "I didn't watch the video" without actually saying it. Of course it's not perfect, but they all really like it.
100%! These people all just want to be cool like everyone in the office
@@jimt2349And communism and islam are religions of peace.
@@V0YAG3Rumm communism isn’t a religion, it’s lack of religion is one of the reason why it’s so dangerous.
@@jimt2349Android fans trying to throw people off and ‘promote’ Android>Apple 😂💀
If this thing isnt for you, that's cool, but hating on people that do like or have it is just so lame. I'm too grown and comfortable to worry about what it looks like in public. I've had it on a plane and it was fantastic. Also took it on vacation on a cruise ship and it was fantastic there too. I'm also grown (cough...old...cough) enough to remember how people thought the early adopters of cell phones looked like morons from a dystopian future. Same went for the AirPods. This too shall pass.
For me, as someone who’s been using VR headsets for years, I liked the hype around it because I thought it would result in an explosion of new VR apps and experiences for ALL vr headsets, but it hasn’t had any noticeable impact at all. Meta and the Quest 3 still seems to be the epicentre of all things VR at the moment, no one even talks about the Vision Pro at all anymore. Plus, they’ve taken way too long to launch it in other countries so people around the world who were eagerly anticipating it have lost interest.
your joking about Meta having more apps right
@@marsthedude1
Your going to tell me that Vision Pro has more immersive apps than Meta.
@@marsthedude1 don't be a dunce
Weird how no one talks about Spatial and Immersive Media. It's pretty obvious that Apple is banking on Spatial Video and Photos. The panoramic photo viewing experience is highly under rated. I am surprised that real estate folks are not jumping all over this. You can create high quality panos on smartphones today. Viewing them in the Vision Pro is surprisingly immersive. If you haven't tried it, you don't know.
The Onion once did a piece where a guy said, "I'll buy anything if it's shiny and made by Apple."
The first dude's reason was, in essence, was the same thing.
Apply users are their own satire.
I'm all for the future of XR and I love that Apple joined the space even though this headset is questionable at best for the average consumer. I just don't understand why technological improvements get so much hate, even with a company like Apple.
Just because you CAN buy it, doesn't mean you SHOULD
All the hate comments haven’t even seen the video. They’re mostly positive about the device. Only price and certain features need to get better. Wait till this thing is in the third version. You don’t wanna know how good it’ll be.
They’re probably Android fans 😂💀
I would recommend to anybody to try a Vision Pro demo, as when I did a few weeks ago, it blew my mind. 💯😁
when alicia keys was singing it borderline shocked me with a bit of fear cos that shiz was SO realistic. none of these videos on it will ever do it justice. something you have to experience.
@@overcomingwithin I totally agree. The dinosaur looked so real that I put my hand out to touch it's nose. It snapped at my hand, and I fell off my seat in shock. 🤭
I had my demo last week and it was special, but it wasn’t so much better than on my Meta Quest 3. The Vision Pro is clearly better, but the price is simply too high. 90% of the experience can be done with the Meta Quest.
@@overcomingwithinimagine watching an nba courtside.
@@Kevvi1994you didn’t get to try Spatial FaceTime!
The best part of this video is that guy who was wearing Meta Ray bans and saying he'd prefer something more like them. Thats Apples competition 100%. Thats actually the product that gets produced because of these Quest and Vision VR systems: AR smart glasses.
I want one now!
nope
no one is stopping you, buy one and hopefully no remorse later. 😂😁🤣😅
Funny how this started out being phenomenal and now starting to quiet down and not mentioned at all
It's a device and platform in development. You won't hear about it then within a few years, Apple glasses will be here and you'll feel so lost. then an even more consumer refined Vision headset will show up.
Still glad that I bought my Vision Pro. I use it almost everyday. My face feels naked without it. It’s the greatest tech product ever.
And communism and islam are religions of peace.
What do you use it the most for.
I have one, i do a podcast and write about it. But right now, for about 95% of non-tech enthusiasts, they are better off waiting until it matures more and gets to a sub $1500 price.While the tech is impressive, its more a novelty than productive tool (at this point in time). Give 2-3 years.
Have you used it with your MacBook yet? I’ve read the productivity is actually good. I’m thinking about getting one with that as the main use case. Thoughts?
Appreciate these guys opinions. Thank you.
Love love LOVE Mr. Steampunk Top Hat over here. Amazing.
this was a great video!! Make it a series!!!! :)
also, who produced this? Would be great if CNET credited its producers in the video descriptions!
It’s still worth it to see how ridiculous people look when they wear and use these things in public.
6 months later no one cares and you realize you should have got a quest 3
Sure. And stream Netflix at 1080p in a web browser.
@@TheBachuki07the difference in AVP and Quest 3 are: there's more Owners watching 1080p Netflix and playing VR games than there are AVP owners watching 4k content. Millions more.
Ya should watch the movie Alien vs Predator, you know AVP. 😊
agree
I was able to finally try them in a store this week. Honestly, great device, amazing eye tracking, image quality, and hand tracking. But pricing for my use case and available apps for my workflow flow, still not a need. It’s a VERY expensive fancy futuristic toy.
Cameras lack quality, M2 is already late and can improve a lot with M4 or M5… definitely waiting what happens with the next couple of generations…
Apple made a nice VR headset and people think it’s some amazing new tech. Way way cheaper options available, VR is cool for about 1-2 days then it’s like blah. Our VR head set is somewhere under the bed I think, not really sure where it is.
I think the super high resolution screen, the controls and interface, and the extremely high quality pass through is what puts it into a different category than any other VR headset. That's not to say I think people should be paying the current price for the headset, or that I think it's currently worth it... but as a "vision" for the future, I think they're going down the right path, and a cheaper model that keeps the high quality screen and pass through will eventually be a big hit, especially if Apple invests in creating some high quality movies/tv/media that really utilizes the tech.
When the price becomes reasonable (~$1000+/-) and able to play games like a Meta Quest headset, I’ll switch.
Feel that you need a Apple TV+ or Disney+ subscription for you to truly get the most of Vision Pro!
Still never heard anyone talk about using it for productivity because no one wants to wear it for more than an hour or two because it’s uncomfortable. Using it to write an email is fine. Using it to work for an 8 hour day? No one does that.
I do. Sounds like one or two people do in the video
@@Sliceoftoni You're saying you wear your vision pro for 8 hours a day? One person mentioned the generic word productivity with no other details. Another person said they would edit video on theirs (I've not heard of ANYONE intentionally doing this).
What kinds of software are even available on this to assist with your work? There's no real computing power. So, you're ... what ... using it for web browser interfaces for the software setups you use? I don't want to pry, but I'm trying to get an idea for the kind of work you do and what kind of impact the hardware would have on you.
I'm a software engineer. The fundamental IDE I would need to write code doesn't exist for them. I could ... do web interface stuff for some of my work. Certainly email and slack. But, for real work this would just function as a $4,000 monitor set up for my macbook pro.
@@Sliceoftoni What do you do for work? One person vaguely said they "use it for productivity" but didn't specify.
How many hours do you spend using this for work when you're using it for work?
Literally every single video I've seen about it specifically says it's uncomfortable to wear for more than an hour or two.
There also are minimal apps on it to actually get work done. So, the best use case for productivity is to use it as a $4,000 monitor for a separate macbook pro or whatever (which costs another 3k+).
The channel 6 Months Later just released a video on it today. They also said it's not useful for productivity.
@@Sliceoftoni What kind of work do you do with it? And, for how many hours a day? What are the primary apps you use to accomplish your work?
Not everyone is the same. Comfort levels are case by case and I've met people in VRchat who practically live there. The Vision Pro has its audience of power users I'm sure.
Me being a Quest 3 owner I can go without using it, or maybe a few hours at a time. Sometimes it's nice to spend stormy/blizzard day with VR.
Love this channel ❤
Looks like CNET have shares in that old +30 years old VR tech.
I can see things like this being big in the future, but not yet. We are a long way away from these things becoming mainstream. Especially given the price and the bulkiness of the thing.
If it looked like I was wearing a Boba Fett helmet...then maybe.
CNET with the DEI
Thought it was dumb prior to release, in the early days, and still do. If you need a tethered battery pack at all times, why not offset some of the computing to the thing in your pocket rather than the thing you need to wear on your face? I really wish Apple went with like Xreal type glasses and computing being done elsewhere rather than going with putting everything on your face.
Apples design philosophy dictates that all components are built as close together as possible, to mitigate latency. Off loading the processing into the battery pack would be the opposite.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Unless it is adding latency and lowering audio quality to audio by removing moving a wire. Maybe Apple should try something new in VR segment, like not strapping a computer to the face. Might be too much to ask of Apple to fix the existing problem in VR space... you know create powerful hardware that actually can be used for long periods of time.
The cringe is off the charts. Do they want to tank apple on purpose?
Just a fancy, expensive, and experimental accessory for Apple Echo system users...😮
Bought one lightly used for $2000 cash, now the 2nd owner. Well worth it at that price. At $3500? No.
How was your buying experience getting one used? Thats the perfect price
@@MarcusWarcus40 went well! Facebook marketplace, met the guy in person in front of our local Apple Store. Made sure I could get my iCloud signed in and all went fine. I agree $3500 plus tax is too steep but yeah, $2k cash, that’s the right price for the tech as it stands.
So apart from watching movies on it, what else is it good for? Failing to see any kind of purpose honestly. Same as iPad, which is still super expensive toy used to mostly watch movies and answer an email.
Design and engineering purposes.
Not to argue, but it’s a specific user use case thing. Like I use my iPad all the time as a pro drawing tablet, and the Vision Pro is currently more of a proof of concept, but is great for developers because it lets you arrange a ton of monitors.
The video you commented on has 5 people explaining all the things they use it for outside of watching movies.
@@alexbroskin5120I’m a software engineer. I have friends who ONLY work in AR and VR space. No one uses stuff like this for work. You go to their offices and it’s a room of engineers with stacks of various devices (this included) and they work on normal monitors like normal people. They put on devices when they need to test things.
People are NOT using these for 8 hour work days. It’s not comfortable enough. The weight is awkward and it’s heavy on the head. It’s also not got the specs to be used for a lot of types of software development. It’s more of an iPad on your face than an upspec MacBook Pro. So, it isn’t like you’re going to spin up multiple virtual environments to build a database, a server, a front end each running different code on a virtual machine environment while separately you have another stable environment to handle other work all being handled by the hardware (which works fine on a MacBook Pro once you upspec it).
No one is using this to really edit content. You’ve seen the MKBHD videos where he talks about it. MKBHD isn’t going to be editing video content on one of these. Just like he doesn’t do it on an iPad Pro. It’s POSSIBLE, but if you have 4k for this you also have a real computer which will be faster.
It’s a fantastic proof of concept. The tech will be better in 20 years. These people are fanatics and bought it because they’re early adopters (they would have bought anything) and they’re just happy with their little toy. It’s NOT for productivity. Most people who talk about it find it hard to wear for a full movie, and certainly can’t wear it to binge watch a series for more than 1-2 episodes. And THAT is the biggest use people have for it. People LOVE it for watching media … but only for short durations.
@@V21bhthose people are just desperately trying to justify their purchase. I’m a software engineer. I meet a lot of early tech adopters who are hopelessly trapped in a product and trying to justify it. It’s NOT useful for productivity because it’s so uncomfortable. Someone said they use it to edit videos … except vision OS is garbage. So, what they really do is use it like a $4,000 monitor for their $3,000 laptop. Except they also run into comfort problems if the edit goes longer than an hour or two.
This was a hideously biased video. Lots of channels are doing 6 month reviews right now.
I don’t doubt that these people all wished what they were saying was true.
Pretty universally the only thing people REALLY use this for is watching an hour or two of TV or a movie and then taking it off due to discomfort.
Got one, love the vision os -but I'm going to return the face brick!- (See update to my comment below and in reply)
It's like a fancy looking brick on my face, vision os (Vision OS 2 even better) is great which is what these people are really talking about but I can't get immersed or remain immersed because of the weight of a brick on my face unless I get a nerdier headstrap like a halo. -So going to return it- until we get a vision air or vision pro 2 without some of the gimmicky tech like the front lcd display and hopefully using lighter materials. The battery brick and it's cable is annoying but I rather have an annoying brick in my pocket then on my head! So I'm ok with that surprisingly.
UPDATE: So a few days ago I made myself a modded head strap out of velcro cable ties, just to help support the weight while still using the solo strap, the self made velcro strap is kind of hidden on my head because of my hair and the weight distribution has been great. So good that I'm now split and I'm leaning towards keeping the headset. Being able to use the headset without discomfort for longer period of time has made get hooked on the Vision OS (with Vision OS 2) and with the upcoming improvements to the extended macbook monitor feature I'm now not so sure about returning it.
I also like that you'll be able to easily replace the battery several years down the line without having to do surgery on the headset as well. And they could easily release a high capacity battery at some point as well, etc. I get your complaint about the weight, but you should definitely consider a better headstrap first.
There’s a bunch of 3rd party headbands which can help minimize the discomfort, check out the Open Face System, or the Anna Pro
So a few days ago I made myself a modded head strap out of velcro cable ties, just to help support the weight while still using the solo strap, the self made velcro strap is kind of hidden on my head because of my hair and the weight distribution has been great. So good that I'm now split and I'm leaning towards keeping the headset. Being able to use the headset without discomfort for longer period of time has made get hooked on the Vision OS (with Vision OS 2) and with the upcoming improvements to the extended macbook monitor feature I'm now not so sure about returning it.
I should point out it's still heavy but it's all about weight distribution, one thing that made me realise that Vision Pro is not so bad was a review I saw by Upload VR for the new upcoming Varjo headset that weights about twice as much as the Vision Pro but apparently with the provided headstrap that comes with the headset the weight is so well distributed that he could hardly tell the weight. So Apple really did a horrible job there, and the after thought jock strap is not comfortable at all!
@@sashogs I'm glad you figured out the weight distribution.. I totally agree that it makes all the difference!
I was not interested in the Vision Pro before last week, but I tried at the Apple Store while my iPhone was being repaired and was completely blown away - I have been thinking about buying ever since!
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I’m in Australia and it costs $6000. No thanks. Can buy a new MacBook Pro and fully maxed out iPad Pro for that money.
"I bought an Apple Vision Pro because I wanted to spend $3,500 on a piece of technology that Meta is selling for $500."
Apple Engineers should really pay attention to Doug Trumbull's BRAINSTORM, to see how a great idea shrinks to something wearable, rather than something which wears you.
haha, this video really cemented 6 feet under Apple Vision Pro.... Next.
It's such a shame you can't choose and customize your persona to look exactly how you want it😡. Instead, it's just based on your real face. HUGE dealbreaker for people who are ugly like me and want to use VR as a way too escape that. The Meta Quest 3 on the other hand, allows you to choose everything about your appearance. You can be as hot and pretty of a girl as you want, which is pretty much the main reason I even use the Quest in the first place, ngl. While the Meta avatars do look a bit too cartoonist in my opinion, I still MUCH prefer them over the restrictive personas on the AVP
this is best product.
Interesting lot.
I feel it was the right product at the wrong time. Our real world already feels too dystopian to feel comfortable adding even more artificiality on top of it. I wish Apple would stop acting like they’re God’s gift to humanity and start valuing the beauty of human imperfection.
Who wears a top hat seriously? 🤔
I will buy one when it will be smaller, lighter and less expensive
By the time we might not survive. Maybe!
Who says we are in a recession?
Yeah, this thing must be good to replace your 3D TV to watch a 3D HD-DVD. Wait, VR is better than 3D glasses, right? No? Bummer...
VR is definitely better than 3D glasses, though.
Two things kill it. 1) price 2) DORK factor. I’m a DORK (and all in on Apple) and I’m self-conscious about wearing the Oculus near the windows in my own home. In public… LMAO.
Maybe it’s not meant to wear in public. But in your own home
I don't think you should feel weird wearing it in your home, but certainly this form factor is not meant to be worn out in public (despite the hilarious videos of people doing just that). Though, I do think the airplane-ride use case is amazing, so there are exceptions. Also, just in terms of VR headsets, this one is by far the prettiest one out there.
for $3000 you can buy a high end gaming laptop or a decent desktop
I’ll be buying one when they make the broke people one
Dude uses this to edit content?! Of all the UA-camrs who got this that’s the absolutely only person I’ve heard say they would use it for editing. That feels … less than believable.
It’s basically an iPad on your face. No one I’ve heard of is intentionally using an iPad to edit (when they have other options).
Not if you pair it up with a macbook. It essentially becomes a massive screen for your laptop... which is great for editing.
@@joelface that is about an 8k computer setup. It had better be absolutely amazing. 4k just on monitors seems … insane to me. You’d still run into fatigue issues though. Longer form videos take a long time to edit. And, most people who have them and enjoy them don’t like to wear them for more than an hour or two.
That still feels like a pretty big problem.
Channels like MKBHD have spoken about this at length. They have the Vision Pro. They have the MacBook pros. They still don’t use the Vision Pro to edit even with it in the room. Yeah? Lots of UA-camrs have these. How many do you think are actually using them?
People like these for watching movies … if they can wear it comfortably for the full duration of the movie. And, that seems to be it.
@@zero11010I wear my AVP for over 10 hours each day, it’s completely changed my entire work flow. Ergonomically, I think it’s actually better than a handheld device, or a laptop for that matter.
@@TimCooksEar why lie? You have video of yourself on your channel. You’re a child. You don’t have one and you don’t use it for hours a day. Why lie?
I pair it with my MacBook Pro and am able to edit with a massive virtual screen
I didn’t hear any productive uses for it. Maybe expand on that??
Since they didn’t, I will. There are plenty of enterprise apps on the visionOS App Store, including the Microsoft Office Suite, Box, and Apple’s iWork programs. There are also a ton of compatible apps which are ported over from iPad. And of course you have Mac Virtual Display, so you can use any Mac app in the AVP
I mentioned several during the interview, but they didn’t end up including them here in the final cut of the video!
Yes
I’m an Apple fan but this is next level weirdness of Apple fanboism. I think each and everyone in this video convinced themselves to buy a Vision Pro and are still trying to find a use for it.
Have you tried one of these systems, AVP or A Meta Quest 3? They have multiple uses cases when it comes to entertainment value. The only off putting thing about them are the fact that both are quite large at this stage. Smart raybans with displays and interaction will be wildly popular wearables.
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 yes Meta quest.
I mentioned in the video that I use mine daily. I still do. It’s not hard to find a use for it, and I certainly don’t have to “try.” 😂
@@Andru I’m happy you’re enjoying it, but suspect you’re an exception to the rule.
'Real owners try to justify how they spunked 3.5k on overpriced gadget and show off to friends'
These things will only take off when it’s just like a pair of glasses. See you in 10 years
it's only the price - period
4:30 this statement by this guy is exactly what’s wrong with society. exclusive elitism. 🤮
all these people sound like they have never experienced VR at all to begin with ...
What ever it's takes 😎🤳💻🎮
An amazing product ahead of its time this is Meta x 50
Mostly hype and would be a waste of money for most people. Apple has a huge base that just wants something that is easy to use and simple, this is not that and probably will never be.
Haha what… The Vision Pro is SO simple. You just pinch to select things lol… Doesn’t get much more natural than that.
The Meta Quest 3 is leaps and bounds better than the Vision Pro for much cheaper in my opinion.
It’s great for games, but the UI is nowhere near as refined as AVP.
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Just make it for entertainment in xreal goggles form factor
you need 3D activities in order to use it properly
Who is this group of weirdos
That’s good only to watch P movies and cm.. 😅
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The exclusivity guy is so cringe
I don't like anyone who buys apple products with a passion. It just tells a lot about that person
Pricy gimmick, that’s it. Thanks god the hype already is gone 😅
It really isn’t a gimmick… It can do myriad of things both for work and play and is an incredible experience. If you live near an Apple store, I would definitely recommend doing a demo of it.
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Yikes..
As someone with a little bit of inside in tech i can tell you, first adopters on this kind of products are usually dumb.
Is that a man??
What a rubbish product 🗑
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Failed Apple product. Lets be honest.
Nah it’s the start of the future. It was made to get to market and start the future. Not most people right now