A disability is only a disability in a society not designed for that disability. People who need glasses would have been considered disabled hundreds of years ago, but nowadays it’s just a normal thing. ADHD didn’t have to mess up my entire school career if schools weren’t just designed for neurotypical kids. It’s like using right handed scissors when you’re left handed
@Peter A. ok, but blindness is a serious problem as you lack one of the 3 main human senses. Autism is different, it’s not a mental illness or disease, nor is it life threatening. I don’t think autism itself is bad by itself especially for those on the lighter side of the spectrum. Learning disabilities aren’t rooted from autism either.
Agreed, I say this a lot. I think a better example would be a fish on land though, where it would do perfectly fine in a place where there was water to breath and swim in, but it's not adapted to dry land, and so the other animals call it ill...
The message in this video I am in full agreement with! I have autism and I'm 41 and haven't been able to work all my life because of how I am unable to fit into society's box of expectations. Society rules are too rigid, incompatible with me, inflexible policies, and other unchanging social expectations make it so hard to be accepted by most people, or work amongst them, as I am often overstimulated to a point of mental shutdown. Too many times I would ask for something to change in the environment, and my request is denied, and I'm often accused of expecting special treatment, as if it was a bad thing, and they refuse to change the environment, so I'm unable to function at my best. They make wheelchair ramps so people in wheelchairs can thrive in this world, why not make needed adjustments for those with neurological differences. If only society would stop treating us like our whole existence is a deficit. Allow exceptions to rules and policies with neuraldiversity awareness and understanding, to make a way for us to thrive.
my mother is an extreme neurotypical escaping from her required an epic struggle as soon as got my masters degree I hugged my professor and I moved toe hague an di cut all ties here if eel free and not because of the drugs and prostitution I fee free finally I can be myself all I have to do is endure the underable at least fatou bensouda accepts me she tells me ia m excellent lawyer and انا ارف كل صعلة我说中文 I speak six un languages je parles six languages я говорю на все шести языков ООН yo se todos los paises en el mundo
Thanks for this. Very inspiring message. This video is great too in general for being on UA-cam in the first place. It celebrates us in ways that weren't even mentioned before. This woman has a really good way of putting words to neuro-diverse people's everyday life, and how they best succeed.
As someone with ADHD, no. My ADHD can be profoundly disabling. There isn’t a single piece of medical literature that suggests ADHD people have any advantages compared to a control group. The idea that there is anything to celebrate about my disability is offensive to me.
I'm a neurodivergent person that has ADHD and Autism and I have come to known to be accepted as that's part of how my life is in 2023! I had a very dark and difficult childhood, but I was able to get through the hard times and find my own way of happiness and acceptance in this crazy world we live in
Not me getting emotional over the facts, I needed to hear these words so much as a child & only now as an adult do I understand myself, how I should've been treated, & getting to live my best life.♾
The reason why people can't be who they are is the society hates people to be different. Sad result is: it's way harder to be yourself than pretending to be someone else because of cultural society expectation
Exactly I praise parents who encourage and support their children to be themselves. Doing so early in someone's life can make a big difference, though it's not guaranteed. Not enough parents do this I feel.
Adhd and depression ruin peoples lives. It ruined a family member and friends of mine. Its not cute. Its not bueatiful. When its mild its manageable but when its sever it is often one of the most ugly things that can happen to a person. I don't know why idiots like u want to tell people they arent victoms.
This is such a great message. This opened my eyes. Thank you! It's ridiculous how people are pushing back against something so good-willed. When she says "Celebrate neurodiversity," I don't think she means she wants to INTENTIONALLY make people autistic or develop ADHD. But these people exist, regardless. What we can do is support them so we can live in harmony. Simply put - be nice to each other. .....and vaccinations are a totally different thing. This isn't the place to complain about that. Whatever the cause of autism is (not vaccines btw), we can be nice to each other. Easy.
Aleister Owley thimerosol is flushed out of the body within 14 days. Not to mention the amounts they put in are ridiculously small. Stop spreading your BS.
Well said Russell but it must go way beyond being nice to also changing the environment (institutions like schools and jobs, living arrangements, schedules), from one in which neurodivergence is debilitating to one where it is not.
For those who are quite clearly unaware, neurodiversity is not a new and modern concept, the concept has been around since 1980. It's only just gaining attention from mainstream culture now.
@@booboobunny5655 Just to clarify, the Neurodiversity Movement and Neurodiversity Paradigm are two very different things. What we're talking about here is the Neurodiversity Paradigm. It's important to make the distinction, because there are some problematic things about the ND movement--mainly, it centers itself around so-called "high-functioning" ND's when it should advocate for all. The paradigm, however, is what good we've learned from the movement and what we should carry forward.
I don't get why she has to make a false binary between changing the child or changing the environment. Neither extremes are even plausible...Let's be real, it's always a compromise between the two.
Your right, but only because we still have to fit into and exist in a largely Neurotyoical society. But I believe her point is that focusing on changing the child instead of his environment is wrong and harmful.
@@midoriryans yes, agreed. However I fear the Neuro diversity movement puts legitimate behavioral therapy at risk, by lumping in negative aspects of disorders as "positives" that shouldn't be touched. With ADHD for example, impulsivity and aggression/mood swings can lead to self endangering behavior. ADHD also leads to prefrontal development lag equivalent to 2-3 years behind other children...not output, literally size and activity of the frontal lobe. These are not just "quirks" nor are the socially constructed. Behaviotal therapy in combination with other interventions(drugs, though nutrition is on the rise) is essential to living to full potential with ADHD. To say that this disability is just a "difference" and thus removing the level of concern it deserves, is basically taking the easy way out and giving up rather than actually solving problems. Also, some of her "positives" listed are negatives. Increased sensory perception from autism is not "good"...it is a nightmare. I have high function Autism myself and cannot drove because of sensory overload when I'm behind the wheel. Increased perception doesnt mean you're "super human" or the next step of evolution if it overloads you and shuts you down.
Neurotypicals also have harmful behaviors too if you didn't notice, and many aren't really considered disorders or something that needs to be treated/prevented. If things neurodiverse may do need treatment, then so does things neurotypicals do
Wrong. Today its 99% focused on changing the person (not just children). Any shift away from that would be huge. 50/50 would be a major transformation. You say its not plausible to change the environment but human societies have been very diverse and little is set in stone. Its a matter of lack of will and the need for struggle against obstacles to transformation.
I have OCD, and some days it is debilitating. I definitely think we should continue to call something like this a disorder and not give up on finding a cure one day, because disorders generally make life a lot more difficult and painful. When I started taking meds, I started feeling a lot better because it lessened my symptoms. While the video is clearly well--intentioned, I worry it sort of romanticizes mental illness and disabilities by focusing on positives too much, while ignoring the difficulties that come with those. But at the same time, I think it makes some good points. There are surely many ways society could change to make life for people with mental illnesses and disabilities better, and I want people to stop stigmatizing others for having a mental illness/disability. But the idea that we should resist even labeling things like debilitating OCD as disorders disturbs me, because I feel like it fails to acknowledge how horrible these conditions can be. I don't want people to think OCD is a wonderful thing. I want people to think I'm not a lesser person for having it.
I think all neurotypes have a dibilitating, harmful variant. In neurotypicals it's called being unable to be by themself or live without approval from others. With autistics it's hyperfixation on something to the point of bodily neglect and with adhd it's similar. I think that stuff so people don't have problems with extremity like that should exist but it should change in perspective from how it is and seeing them as disorders, rather they should be seen as things that can get out of hand but have balanced states too (that aren't judged as being balanced by their "normalness" or similarity to being neurotypical)
Also, for different people different things are more easily unbalanced than others, any way that person needs to balance is nessecary and needed (so in that case, even medication etc)
Ok i thought about it more, my criteria for if something is an absolute disability is if it is unable to form a stable or functional society of it's own (even if it takes a lot of intricate rules to work) though it's probably possible to make an ocd society function, it would be a difficult one to manage (though it'd be managed by people woth ocd) and would be very, very hivelike. Yhe main issue that would arise with the earlier generations of establishing such, would be interfering obsessions and manner of doing things. A problem that might be solved early on would be problem solving. The test over time would be keeping the ecosystem of this hypothetical ocd civilization in a balanced state where there isn't too much being put towards something. It would take a lot of interpersonal coordination, but could in theory be done with some support and something to lean on in the beginning (more so than a hypothetic autistic civilization, narcissist, adhd, psychopath or neurotypical, but much less than a bpd or bipolar civilization). Not to say the civilization would have to be very unlike any we know now both socially, culturally and maybe even economically
So, I get where you're coming from, but OCD is a very different disorder than the onces mentioned in this video. This person is talking about neuro-developmental differences, not disorders like OCD. OCD is a mental disorder, not a neuro-developmental condition, that is highly distressing, regardless of the kind of environment the sufferer is in. This video is talking about how environments exist wherepeople with ADHD and Autism can thrive, and that changing the person to fit an environment that doesn't work for them (through medication or distressing behavioral interventions) may not be the best choice. I really do not believe that this psychologist is advocating for mental disorders like OCD not to be treated. She even acknowledges the challenges and distress that adhd and autism cause.
I have ADHD and my doctor, who treats it as the disorder that it IS improved my life significantly. Living with an illness that is chronic, things would be a lot better if people wouldn't belittle or infantilize this very serious problem. It's not a "unique" or "special" form of cognition uwu. It IS a disorder.
Great message and I am in total agreement. The same thought process applies to other diversity areas as well, such as the gender spectrum. I think as a society we need to learn to be more tolerant of differences and even celebrate them!
I have to say that although I watched this video for a class I am in for college I ABSOLUTELY loved the information here I have a child that has both ADHD and Autism and I love her positive outlook on the benefit that those with these differences can bring to the table
I can appreciate what your doing and the message of empowerment. I do however challenge you to perhaps see us as thinking very similar to everyone else we just learn differently come to solve our puzzles a little quicker but maybe struggle with time management . We don’t realize it’s been 5 min even hours feel like 0 Min to us at times .
Cried. Yea so it's hard to accept myself. This video made me cry ...(diagnosed neurodivergent and ADHD age 3 mom got $600 monthly I didn't find out till age 31 from social security 😐😑
How ironic, you give a report on neurodivergence whilst playing loud music over the speaker, one of the things that neurodivergant people find extremely difficult.
I Agree with this Video! I always thought it was Cruel for People to try to be Chanbed by their Parents and Families who want to "make them Better" ! ! ! !
The Definition of Normal is ............... Majority. That's It. So if my people (on the Spectrum) were the Majority Those of you who are not, would be DIS.....
But such conformist attitudes are harmful. When we tell a person to conform to what a majority wants, we take away that person's identity, and there are simply some things about a person that cannot be changed. For those that have neurological differences, it means society should not be so rigid, just as it means for perhaps a homosexual that society should not persecute them for loving differently. When asked not to allow the expression of these traits, we cut off the individual from what may be a fundamental part of their identity, a part they cannot just edit or remove at will. Sure, what is normal is what is determined by the majority, but even the majority can be wrong, and that is exactly why normal is only ever normal when we feel normal. Or, less confusingly, when we feel comfortable in our own skin.
It's so good to listen to this. I've thought these things for years, told these things to normal people who simetimes couldn't just get out of their heads. Society loose so much money and, time and effort with these rigidities that normal people think are useful even when there's zero evidence of its utility
"Feeling comfortable in your own skin" is more about accepting yourself. That is a personal issue and outside of being a sounding board not something that others can be involved with.
Great content. I wish they'd lower the volume of the music in this video. It distracts from her message. A little ironic considering lots of neurodiverse folks are sensitive to sound :)
It's kinda frustrating hearing "you can find your niche," because it's true, BUT that's not something that usually happens until you're much older. When you're young you need to fit in and conform as much as possible so you can get through school, then when you're just starting out in your career you can't pick and choose what jobs you take because you're just scrambling to get experience so you can get better jobs. Some people will never get to the point where they have the level of privilege to choose where they want to be and what they want to do, and actually be able to build the life they want rather than just trying to keep a roof over their head and food on the table.
This is a great message! Athough it's about 30 or so years too late for me. Maybe that would have kept my parents and doctors from dealing with my ADHD the way they did when I was a child. Instead of just doping me up with meds, and the two lengthy periods of time I was put in a mental hospital because I was deemed unruly and problematic. It certainly couldn't have been anything to do with my always fighting and abusive parents either. No, couldn't be that, parents don't cause problems, it's the child's fault. 🙄
I love every word that she said 🤧. I actually I accept having adhd and Dyscalculia even though I get downs like ( I believe) everyone's ups and downs. But the only I regret something from myself, being harsh to myself when I had selective mutism (still have it just weakly), but I didn't have social media to know that I wasn't alone. With adhd didn't hurt me, just opened my eyes because I actually was born with adhd and math problems.
I wonder where NVLD fits into this, since it's similar to both ADHD and autism. I guess we won't know for awhile since it's not popular and not many people want to research it.
the real value of diversity of brains is the different ideas and solutions it produces. So the real message should be: diversity of idea should be celebrated, not censored.
While I get what you mean, your expression is harmful. The value of neurodiversity is about much more than the ideas and solutions we produce. This is about people.
@@DerUberBrot wow, you guys must be very neurologically atypical and contributing to neuro-diversity. Let's appreciate the shapes and sizes of the brain but not what those brains do; what is this, modern art? quirks and idiosyncrasies are good as long as they are all politically uniform. Celebrations and encouragements for traits as long as they are inconsequential
my ''neurodiversity'' IS very disableing, im singificantly disabled, by my disabilities, they are deficits, and its cheated me out of a chance at success, jobs, carrerrs, realtionships and a life !, and i used to be on board, i liked myself, was comfortableand proud of who and how i wwas for many years !!.... and its neer got me anywhere thats got me shunned because in most societys minds, i ''wassettling'' and not trying or being unwilling to workand try harde t to better myself, im not ''mildly disabled, or highly functional''... i actually am suignificantly disabled and very impacted by it !! its not just a lil different, or some quarks, no i gotmajor issues that most peoplerefuse to see or respect, and they think i could just do nbetter if i tried harder....never mind that i try so hard and work so hard that i made myself sick literally....
The fact that your not describing what it is that causes all these problems and instead just insisting they exist makes me question the legitamy of your claims. There has been a history for "fake" Autistics their complaits about autism posting in neurodiversity forums to oppose it. But they fail to really grasp what it means to be Autistic, because they aren't.
@@midoriryans yea im also seeing this. but i wont take my word for it. i personally am autistic and the way i see it is that im just built different. yes schools arent fit for these neurodiverse people, but hopefully over time we can change it to fit us. i dont really know whether im diagnosed or not, but im 100% positive that im neurologically diverse, from sensitivity to loud noises, slow processing, and hard time reading. its disabling, but im trying my hardest through a society that hasnt changed their perspective of us yet.
@@J4rj4r81nx i see what u mean, but wouldnt it be much more easier to just support them with true information and not faking it? its like supporting a disabled person by pretending to be one. i think u mean it in a supporting way, but personally i think it would be easier to listen to us
Ok well everything you just said wouldn't be an illness if we lived in a society where people weren't valued based on their money/behaving certain ways. Fish aren't able to do much on dry land, is that the fish disabled, or ill? Neither.
Am I to take it you think non-Christians have to adopt Christianity? Or that LGBT+ have to become cis-het ? Or even that Blacks, Hispanics, etc. have to give up their music an start listening to "White" music instead? Just curious.
@@filrabat1965 really, you don't have to do anything...but ask a yourself, when it comes to these movements ( like what she is talking about) ...who paid for them to be popular and forced adoption on everyone else? i'm not going adopt anyone else's mental illiness.
Autistic people are some of the most intelligent people I have ever met. My cousin listened to his parents speak Spanish a few times. He doesn't talk much but he started speaking fluent Spanish to them randomly. They are so intelligent but lack communication skills. ADHD people had in advantage back in the hunter gatherer era, but thus world just doesn't operate like that anymore
Autism and ADHD are two different things. I think most people understand what Autism is but not ADHD. ADHD is just how it starts with life compounding the issues caused by this first thing. A person with just ADHD has trouble with organization organizing their thoughts(lacks focus), difficulty organizing things(constantly loses things), loses track of time(often late), difficulty managing personal finances, relationship difficulties ,and difficulty regulating emotions(loses temper) People with ADHD are more likely to have substance control issues, anger control issues, make oversights or mistakes, and more likely to have psychological comorbidities such as depression/anxiety. ADHD also makes one more likely to experience a motor vehicle accident. It should be stressed ADHD is not a learning disabilty those with ADHD have difficulty in school due to needing high stimulation, being prone to distraction, poor time management, and procrastination Same traits that makes someone a 'bad employee' as well. Knowing someone that has ADHD is not a good indicator if what it is as there is a continuum of severity, furthermore individual expression/manifestation of it , and environmental component(which can inflect or modulate it). As an Adult with ADHD, I would not mention that I even have it and before society can get on the neurodiversity bandwagon with ADHD people in general need to first understand it for what it truly is.
100%. In drama, i decided to be a lighting designer as i want to contribute, but without being watched by everyone. I just change sliders and improve the Perfomer's act tenfold now.
It's one thing to treat them with respect but another thing entirely to view them as just a different type of person. They are disorders, they are dysfunctional and they do suffer from them. If we could detect and repair these 'Neurodiversities' in the womb, safely and effectively, would you do so? If yes then you have to acknowledge these conditions are a disability
Wonderful! I'd searched for 'Neurodiversity is Not a DISorder but a Difference.' Noting that for the neurodiverse especially females there's minimal to zero support, and career paths, with stable incomes for those gifted with linguistics/arts as opposed to sciences, are shockingly poorly supported. One thing about this video, is the massively obvious under representation of female children. Please update the images for the inclusivity angle, i.e., substantial part of main message of speaker. Thanks
This is woefully wrong. Hiding behind words to protect those with autism isn't wise. It IS a disability and it DOES hold people back in significant ways. This does not mean that autistic people don't deserve love and respect. It means the exact opposite. You can't face the challenges of autism unless everyone gets practical about the challenges they face and what society can do to help them. Likewise, they themselves must recognize that they face these challenges and should not expect all of society to conform to their needs. It's unfortunate - but practical, and in my opinion, serves a much better approach to preparing them for the hardships they face. Why this has even become political is beyond me.
Excuse me, Dr. MacEachron, but which "foundation in India" have you worked for? One would think, wouldn't one, that this would be proudly named on your website. Would you like to share that wish us now? What are the connections of the foundation? Where does the money come from? This is a rude question . . . too bad . . . but you must reveal your financial connections if you are going to express a professional opinion like this one.
A disability is only a disability in a society not designed for that disability. People who need glasses would have been considered disabled hundreds of years ago, but nowadays it’s just a normal thing. ADHD didn’t have to mess up my entire school career if schools weren’t just designed for neurotypical kids. It’s like using right handed scissors when you’re left handed
@Peter A. not a good comparison to autism.
@Peter A. ok, but blindness is a serious problem as you lack one of the 3 main human senses. Autism is different, it’s not a mental illness or disease, nor is it life threatening. I don’t think autism itself is bad by itself especially for those on the lighter side of the spectrum. Learning disabilities aren’t rooted from autism either.
@Naters yeah, mostly because of suicide due to the way we’re treated
This is known as the soscial model of disability
Agreed, I say this a lot.
I think a better example would be a fish on land though, where it would do perfectly fine in a place where there was water to breath and swim in, but it's not adapted to dry land, and so the other animals call it ill...
The message in this video I am in full agreement with! I have autism and I'm 41 and haven't been able to work all my life because of how I am unable to fit into society's box of expectations.
Society rules are too rigid, incompatible with me, inflexible policies, and other unchanging social expectations make it so hard to be accepted by most people, or work amongst them, as I am often overstimulated to a point of mental shutdown. Too many times I would ask for something to change in the environment, and my request is denied, and I'm often accused of expecting special treatment, as if it was a bad thing, and they refuse to change the environment, so I'm unable to function at my best.
They make wheelchair ramps so people in wheelchairs can thrive in this world, why not make needed adjustments for those with neurological differences. If only society would stop treating us like our whole existence is a deficit. Allow exceptions to rules and policies with neuraldiversity awareness and understanding, to make a way for us to thrive.
my mother is an extreme neurotypical escaping from her required an epic struggle as soon as got my masters degree I hugged my professor and I moved toe hague an di cut all ties here if eel free and not because of the drugs and prostitution I fee free finally I can be myself all I have to do is endure the underable at least fatou bensouda accepts me she tells me ia m excellent lawyer and انا ارف كل صعلة我说中文 I speak six un languages je parles six languages я говорю на все шести языков ООН yo se todos los paises en el mundo
Thanks for this. Very inspiring message. This video is great too in general for being on UA-cam in the first place. It celebrates us in ways that weren't even mentioned before. This woman has a really good way of putting words to neuro-diverse people's everyday life, and how they best succeed.
its your incapability of interacting that is truly preventing you from developing, humans are social animals.
@@raulmaximo5810 that’s a complete myth.
Us Neurodivergents aren't built for this society.
As someone with ADHD, YES. Some of the best friends I have had are those who are neurodiverse. All anyone wants is love and to be accepted.
We understand our kin, I just find our people and we instantly get each other. Our pain, our suffering, our alienation etc.
As someone with ADHD, no. My ADHD can be profoundly disabling. There isn’t a single piece of medical literature that suggests ADHD people have any advantages compared to a control group.
The idea that there is anything to celebrate about my disability is offensive to me.
this videos makes me feel noticed and appreciated, like i belong in this place
Reality: "Haha.. No"
@@NTKM-om9vn hehe yea, society be like "um no ur brain doodoo", but then again i shouldnt aslo victimize myself so im over here like "o_O"
@@walmartmcnasty9688 Lol, “um no ur brain doodoo” made me laugh. But that is true- society does act like this.
@@itzgamerwolf5899 hehe yea, its basically insulting, but sadly thats how it is
@@walmartmcnasty9688 Yeah
As a mother with a dyslexic child and another with ADHD this video made me happy and hopeful. Thank you for making this.
I'm a neurodivergent person that has ADHD and Autism and I have come to known to be accepted as that's part of how my life is in 2023! I had a very dark and difficult childhood, but I was able to get through the hard times and find my own way of happiness and acceptance in this crazy world we live in
This video should be watched in all schools and universities and shared with all teachers and employers!
In my country, people only use the word "Autist" as a slur.
I would like to show them this message.
What about women and girls on the spectrum ? I just counted three women , please we need visibility 🧚🏻♀️💕
Not me getting emotional over the facts, I needed to hear these words so much as a child & only now as an adult do I understand myself, how I should've been treated, & getting to live my best life.♾
The reason why people can't be who they are is the society hates people to be different. Sad result is: it's way harder to be yourself than pretending to be someone else because of cultural society expectation
Exactly
I praise parents who encourage and support their children to be themselves. Doing so early in someone's life can make a big difference, though it's not guaranteed. Not enough parents do this I feel.
@@Metallian81My parents were like this. Sadly the rest of the world is often not.
This is a great message that needs to be spread as much as possible, neurodiversity is truly a beautiful thing...
thank you so much for sharing this
Adhd and depression ruin peoples lives. It ruined a family member and friends of mine. Its not cute. Its not bueatiful. When its mild its manageable but when its sever it is often one of the most ugly things that can happen to a person. I don't know why idiots like u want to tell people they arent victoms.
That's how so many autistic people end up homeless ... you don't need help, this is not a handicap!!
as a parent of a differently wired kid: thank you!
This is such a great message. This opened my eyes. Thank you!
It's ridiculous how people are pushing back against something so good-willed.
When she says "Celebrate neurodiversity," I don't think she means she wants to INTENTIONALLY make people autistic or develop ADHD.
But these people exist, regardless. What we can do is support them so we can live in harmony.
Simply put - be nice to each other.
.....and vaccinations are a totally different thing. This isn't the place to complain about that. Whatever the cause of autism is (not vaccines btw), we can be nice to each other. Easy.
Aleister Owley thimerosol is flushed out of the body within 14 days. Not to mention the amounts they put in are ridiculously small. Stop spreading your BS.
I'd actually want to intentionally make people have ADHD and autism. It has it's downsides but they have been shown to think better than others.
Well said Russell but it must go way beyond being nice to also changing the environment (institutions like schools and jobs, living arrangements, schedules), from one in which neurodivergence is debilitating to one where it is not.
For those who are quite clearly unaware, neurodiversity is not a new and modern concept, the concept has been around since 1980. It's only just gaining attention from mainstream culture now.
It shouldn't be mainstream.
@Peter A. Ok Boomer.
@@hemprope4326 Sure. 🙄
@@itzgamerwolf5899 Exactly. Social justice includes the neurodiversity movement.
@@booboobunny5655 Just to clarify, the Neurodiversity Movement and Neurodiversity Paradigm are two very different things. What we're talking about here is the Neurodiversity Paradigm. It's important to make the distinction, because there are some problematic things about the ND movement--mainly, it centers itself around so-called "high-functioning" ND's when it should advocate for all. The paradigm, however, is what good we've learned from the movement and what we should carry forward.
I don't get why she has to make a false binary between changing the child or changing the environment. Neither extremes are even plausible...Let's be real, it's always a compromise between the two.
Your right, but only because we still have to fit into and exist in a largely Neurotyoical society.
But I believe her point is that focusing on changing the child instead of his environment is wrong and harmful.
@@midoriryans yes, agreed. However I fear the Neuro diversity movement puts legitimate behavioral therapy at risk, by lumping in negative aspects of disorders as "positives" that shouldn't be touched. With ADHD for example, impulsivity and aggression/mood swings can lead to self endangering behavior. ADHD also leads to prefrontal development lag equivalent to 2-3 years behind other children...not output, literally size and activity of the frontal lobe. These are not just "quirks" nor are the socially constructed.
Behaviotal therapy in combination with other interventions(drugs, though nutrition is on the rise) is essential to living to full potential with ADHD. To say that this disability is just a "difference" and thus removing the level of concern it deserves, is basically taking the easy way out and giving up rather than actually solving problems.
Also, some of her "positives" listed are negatives. Increased sensory perception from autism is not "good"...it is a nightmare. I have high function Autism myself and cannot drove because of sensory overload when I'm behind the wheel. Increased perception doesnt mean you're "super human" or the next step of evolution if it overloads you and shuts you down.
Neurotypicals also have harmful behaviors too if you didn't notice, and many aren't really considered disorders or something that needs to be treated/prevented. If things neurodiverse may do need treatment, then so does things neurotypicals do
Wrong. Today its 99% focused on changing the person (not just children). Any shift away from that would be huge. 50/50 would be a major transformation. You say its not plausible to change the environment but human societies have been very diverse and little is set in stone. Its a matter of lack of will and the need for struggle against obstacles to transformation.
I have OCD, and some days it is debilitating. I definitely think we should continue to call something like this a disorder and not give up on finding a cure one day, because disorders generally make life a lot more difficult and painful. When I started taking meds, I started feeling a lot better because it lessened my symptoms. While the video is clearly well--intentioned, I worry it sort of romanticizes mental illness and disabilities by focusing on positives too much, while ignoring the difficulties that come with those. But at the same time, I think it makes some good points. There are surely many ways society could change to make life for people with mental illnesses and disabilities better, and I want people to stop stigmatizing others for having a mental illness/disability. But the idea that we should resist even labeling things like debilitating OCD as disorders disturbs me, because I feel like it fails to acknowledge how horrible these conditions can be. I don't want people to think OCD is a wonderful thing. I want people to think I'm not a lesser person for having it.
I think all neurotypes have a dibilitating, harmful variant. In neurotypicals it's called being unable to be by themself or live without approval from others. With autistics it's hyperfixation on something to the point of bodily neglect and with adhd it's similar. I think that stuff so people don't have problems with extremity like that should exist but it should change in perspective from how it is and seeing them as disorders, rather they should be seen as things that can get out of hand but have balanced states too (that aren't judged as being balanced by their "normalness" or similarity to being neurotypical)
Also, for different people different things are more easily unbalanced than others, any way that person needs to balance is nessecary and needed (so in that case, even medication etc)
Ok i thought about it more, my criteria for if something is an absolute disability is if it is unable to form a stable or functional society of it's own (even if it takes a lot of intricate rules to work) though it's probably possible to make an ocd society function, it would be a difficult one to manage (though it'd be managed by people woth ocd) and would be very, very hivelike. Yhe main issue that would arise with the earlier generations of establishing such, would be interfering obsessions and manner of doing things. A problem that might be solved early on would be problem solving. The test over time would be keeping the ecosystem of this hypothetical ocd civilization in a balanced state where there isn't too much being put towards something. It would take a lot of interpersonal coordination, but could in theory be done with some support and something to lean on in the beginning (more so than a hypothetic autistic civilization, narcissist, adhd, psychopath or neurotypical, but much less than a bpd or bipolar civilization). Not to say the civilization would have to be very unlike any we know now both socially, culturally and maybe even economically
So, I get where you're coming from, but OCD is a very different disorder than the onces mentioned in this video. This person is talking about neuro-developmental differences, not disorders like OCD. OCD is a mental disorder, not a neuro-developmental condition, that is highly distressing, regardless of the kind of environment the sufferer is in. This video is talking about how environments exist wherepeople with ADHD and Autism can thrive, and that changing the person to fit an environment that doesn't work for them (through medication or distressing behavioral interventions) may not be the best choice. I really do not believe that this psychologist is advocating for mental disorders like OCD not to be treated. She even acknowledges the challenges and distress that adhd and autism cause.
@@redacteduk82 ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
I've had dyspraxia since birth. I am of the opinion that, no matter how hard we try, most people in this world will never, ever understand us.
I met a person who had dyspraxia and I tried to find out what it was but where ever I search I couldn’t find it so
I am asking what is dyspraxia
I have ADHD and my doctor, who treats it as the disorder that it IS improved my life significantly.
Living with an illness that is chronic, things would be a lot better if people wouldn't belittle or infantilize this very serious problem.
It's not a "unique" or "special" form of cognition uwu. It IS a disorder.
this psychologist gets it
I needed this, you understand. Thank you so much, I know I have a place somewhere I just have to find it
Great message and I am in total agreement. The same thought process applies to other diversity areas as well, such as the gender spectrum. I think as a society we need to learn to be more tolerant of differences and even celebrate them!
I LOVE THIS!! I have ADHD and my daughter is on the spectrum, and we rock! :)
I have to say that although I watched this video for a class I am in for college I ABSOLUTELY loved the information here I have a child that has both ADHD and Autism and I love her positive outlook on the benefit that those with these differences can bring to the table
Thank you,thank you,thank you...you just opened my eyes.
I can appreciate what your doing and the message of empowerment. I do however challenge you to perhaps see us as
thinking very similar to everyone else we just learn differently come to solve our puzzles a little quicker but maybe struggle with time management . We don’t realize it’s been 5 min even hours feel like 0
Min to us at times .
Cried. Yea so it's hard to accept myself. This video made me cry ...(diagnosed neurodivergent and ADHD age 3 mom got $600 monthly I didn't find out till age 31 from social security 😐😑
How ironic, you give a report on neurodivergence whilst playing loud music over the speaker, one of the things that neurodivergant people find extremely difficult.
Best Video ever. A must watch.
This is brilliant! Thank you!
I Agree with this Video! I always thought it was Cruel for People to try to be Chanbed by their Parents and Families who want to "make them Better" ! ! ! !
The Definition of Normal is ............... Majority. That's It. So if my people (on the Spectrum) were the Majority Those of you who are not, would be DIS.....
But such conformist attitudes are harmful. When we tell a person to conform to what a majority wants, we take away that person's identity, and there are simply some things about a person that cannot be changed. For those that have neurological differences, it means society should not be so rigid, just as it means for perhaps a homosexual that society should not persecute them for loving differently. When asked not to allow the expression of these traits, we cut off the individual from what may be a fundamental part of their identity, a part they cannot just edit or remove at will. Sure, what is normal is what is determined by the majority, but even the majority can be wrong, and that is exactly why normal is only ever normal when we feel normal. Or, less confusingly, when we feel comfortable in our own skin.
It's so good to listen to this. I've thought these things for years, told these things to normal people who simetimes couldn't just get out of their heads. Society loose so much money and, time and effort with these rigidities that normal people think are useful even when there's zero evidence of its utility
Can't agree more.....
"Feeling comfortable in your own skin" is more about accepting yourself. That is a personal issue and outside of being a sounding board not something that others can be involved with.
Great content. I wish they'd lower the volume of the music in this video. It distracts from her message. A little ironic considering lots of neurodiverse folks are sensitive to sound :)
This video should be shown in schools everywhere in the world because it is spot on!
I feel seen heard and acknowleged! Well said
It's kinda frustrating hearing "you can find your niche," because it's true, BUT that's not something that usually happens until you're much older. When you're young you need to fit in and conform as much as possible so you can get through school, then when you're just starting out in your career you can't pick and choose what jobs you take because you're just scrambling to get experience so you can get better jobs. Some people will never get to the point where they have the level of privilege to choose where they want to be and what they want to do, and actually be able to build the life they want rather than just trying to keep a roof over their head and food on the table.
This is a great message!
Athough it's about 30 or so years too late for me.
Maybe that would have kept my parents and doctors from dealing with my ADHD the way they did when I was a child.
Instead of just doping me up with meds, and the two lengthy periods of time I was put in a mental hospital because I was deemed unruly and problematic.
It certainly couldn't have been anything to do with my always fighting and abusive parents either.
No, couldn't be that, parents don't cause problems, it's the child's fault. 🙄
Thank you so much for this video ❤ !...
It is so interesting and inspirational to see things from that perspective !
mental disorders are also neurodivergences. And they deserve respect.
Life its like a puzzle and only when you find all the pieces you'll get the most beautiful view 😊😊😊
I’m autistic with severe adhd and guess what I’m 35, and a psychology major. No one is going to consider me disabled when I’m at work.
The comment section in this video goes from wonderful and accepting, to disgusting and hateful so quickly.
That’s how it goes unfortunately. :(
The comment section in this video goes from brainwashed idiots, to common sense so quickly.
@@Upcastpanther ...
Such a great information and I really appreciate it. Much thanks!!
100% Support this message!
Honestly, i couldnt concentrate on anything you said because of the background music.
Welcome in the ADHD team XD XD XD XD XD
The profit busness model lacks the authenticity of curiosity to interrupt greedy indifference to environment and living things in it.
I love every word that she said 🤧. I actually I accept having adhd and Dyscalculia even though I get downs like ( I believe) everyone's ups and downs.
But the only I regret something from myself, being harsh to myself when I had selective mutism (still have it just weakly), but I didn't have social media to know that I wasn't alone. With adhd didn't hurt me, just opened my eyes because I actually was born with adhd and math problems.
Surviving the nt education
The number is now 1 in 27 children are now diagnosed with ASD
I wonder where NVLD fits into this, since it's similar to both ADHD and autism. I guess we won't know for awhile since it's not popular and not many people want to research it.
I think this is true.
the real value of diversity of brains is the different ideas and solutions it produces.
So the real message should be: diversity of idea should be celebrated, not censored.
It isn't a message about political ideas but about the diversity of neurological structures.
Yeah, way to derail the subject.
While I get what you mean, your expression is harmful. The value of neurodiversity is about much more than the ideas and solutions we produce. This is about people.
@@DerUberBrot wow, you guys must be very neurologically atypical and contributing to neuro-diversity. Let's appreciate the shapes and sizes of the brain but not what those brains do; what is this, modern art?
quirks and idiosyncrasies are good as long as they are all politically uniform. Celebrations and encouragements for traits as long as they are inconsequential
Life is hard enough as it is already
Oh good, I am not the only one who thinks this!
my ''neurodiversity'' IS very disableing, im singificantly disabled, by my disabilities, they are deficits, and its cheated me out of a chance at success, jobs, carrerrs, realtionships and a life !, and i used to be on board, i liked myself, was comfortableand proud of who and how i wwas for many years !!.... and its neer got me anywhere thats got me shunned because in most societys minds, i ''wassettling'' and not trying or being unwilling to workand try harde t to better myself, im not ''mildly disabled, or highly functional''... i actually am suignificantly disabled and very impacted by it !! its not just a lil different, or some quarks, no i gotmajor issues that most peoplerefuse to see or respect, and they think i could just do nbetter if i tried harder....never mind that i try so hard and work so hard that i made myself sick literally....
The fact that your not describing what it is that causes all these problems and instead just insisting they exist makes me question the legitamy of your claims.
There has been a history for "fake" Autistics their complaits about autism posting in neurodiversity forums to oppose it. But they fail to really grasp what it means to be Autistic, because they aren't.
@@midoriryans yea im also seeing this. but i wont take my word for it. i personally am autistic and the way i see it is that im just built different. yes schools arent fit for these neurodiverse people, but hopefully over time we can change it to fit us. i dont really know whether im diagnosed or not, but im 100% positive that im neurologically diverse, from sensitivity to loud noises, slow processing, and hard time reading. its disabling, but im trying my hardest through a society that hasnt changed their perspective of us yet.
If it is possible that people are faking autism to oppose a narrative, isn't it also possible that people are faking autism to support it?
@@J4rj4r81nx i see what u mean, but wouldnt it be much more easier to just support them with true information and not faking it? its like supporting a disabled person by pretending to be one. i think u mean it in a supporting way, but personally i think it would be easier to listen to us
Ok well everything you just said wouldn't be an illness if we lived in a society where people weren't valued based on their money/behaving certain ways.
Fish aren't able to do much on dry land, is that the fish disabled, or ill? Neither.
This is so great! Thank you! YES!
Yes! So true. Diversity is strength. Implanting universal design benefits all of us. Justice must be intersectional.
very beautifully said
I'm in total agreement here! Thank you for this.
What's the name of the speaker?
I am different
Thank you for this.❤️
Um they are things that hold u back but that just means ppl arnt good a school and its ok
THIS IS STUPID...now you have to acclimate to society, not the other round.
Am I to take it you think non-Christians have to adopt Christianity? Or that LGBT+ have to become cis-het ? Or even that Blacks, Hispanics, etc. have to give up their music an start listening to "White" music instead? Just curious.
@@filrabat1965 really, you don't have to do anything...but ask a yourself, when it comes to these movements ( like what she is talking about) ...who paid for them to be popular and forced adoption on everyone else?
i'm not going adopt anyone else's mental illiness.
Autistic people are some of the most intelligent people I have ever met. My cousin listened to his parents speak Spanish a few times. He doesn't talk much but he started speaking fluent Spanish to them randomly. They are so intelligent but lack communication skills. ADHD people had in advantage back in the hunter gatherer era, but thus world just doesn't operate like that anymore
Thank you for sharing
Thank you so much , never related to anything 🙏🤍
Spot-on opinion piece!
I hope society changes in my lifetime
There is a bad aspect ratio for this video.
It's strange how we've went full circle and back to 4:3
Who cares? The content is excellent.
Like rules and norms should respect the difference
If I could love and not like this video, I would.
Real X men human beings 🧬
Autism and ADHD are two different things. I think most people understand what Autism is but not ADHD.
ADHD is just how it starts with life compounding the issues caused by this first thing. A person with just ADHD has trouble with organization organizing their thoughts(lacks focus), difficulty organizing things(constantly loses things), loses track of time(often late), difficulty managing personal finances, relationship difficulties ,and difficulty regulating emotions(loses temper)
People with ADHD are more likely to have substance control issues, anger control issues, make oversights or mistakes, and more likely to have psychological comorbidities such as depression/anxiety. ADHD also makes one more likely to experience a motor vehicle accident.
It should be stressed ADHD is not a learning disabilty those with ADHD have difficulty in school due to needing high stimulation, being prone to distraction, poor time management, and procrastination Same traits that makes someone a 'bad employee' as well.
Knowing someone that has ADHD is not a good indicator if what it is as there is a continuum of severity, furthermore individual expression/manifestation of it , and environmental component(which can inflect or modulate it).
As an Adult with ADHD, I would not mention that I even have it and before society can get on the neurodiversity bandwagon with ADHD people in general need to first understand it for what it truly is.
This is wise! What's her name?!
Thank you.
My Therapy sent me this
I can't find this post on y'all's Instagram page 😢
"There's a different type of diversity that you might not know about."
LOL! There always is. But this was a really good video. Interesting topic.
I'm not crying you are... this touch me so much...
thank you!!
100%. In drama, i decided to be a lighting designer as i want to contribute, but without being watched by everyone. I just change sliders and improve the Perfomer's act tenfold now.
thank you
It's one thing to treat them with respect but another thing entirely to view them as just a different type of person. They are disorders, they are dysfunctional and they do suffer from them. If we could detect and repair these 'Neurodiversities' in the womb, safely and effectively, would you do so? If yes then you have to acknowledge these conditions are a disability
Super powers
Wonderful! I'd searched for 'Neurodiversity is Not a DISorder but a Difference.' Noting that for the neurodiverse especially females there's minimal to zero support, and career paths, with stable incomes for those gifted with linguistics/arts as opposed to sciences, are shockingly poorly supported. One thing about this video, is the massively obvious under representation of female children. Please update the images for the inclusivity angle, i.e., substantial part of main message of speaker. Thanks
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This is woefully wrong. Hiding behind words to protect those with autism isn't wise. It IS a disability and it DOES hold people back in significant ways. This does not mean that autistic people don't deserve love and respect. It means the exact opposite. You can't face the challenges of autism unless everyone gets practical about the challenges they face and what society can do to help them. Likewise, they themselves must recognize that they face these challenges and should not expect all of society to conform to their needs. It's unfortunate - but practical, and in my opinion, serves a much better approach to preparing them for the hardships they face.
Why this has even become political is beyond me.
YES
so humanly .... truth .....
this video makes me not feel noticed or appreciated at all lol.
1:24 Ha contribuído a habilidades de memoria esta diversidad.
Who is the presenter? Dr. Devon MacEachern's name is shown, but it seems the presenter isn't identified.
This thing isn't even new. It has been there since forever in history. It created the archetypes existing in world's mythologies.
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What's the difference between Neurodivergent and Neurodiverse??
I need to tell this to all those ignorant , evilish people who are confused about autism and mental illness.
Mental disorders are also neurodivergences.
Not only ADHD and autism are neurodivergences but also schizophrenia and bipolarity are also neurodivergences.
who is this woman? PLEASE
Likely Soros or BlackRock-owned.
ANYONE HAS A BOOK TITLE TO DEEPEN THIS TOPIC ????? TXXXX
Excuse me, Dr. MacEachron, but which "foundation in India" have you worked for? One would think, wouldn't one, that this would be proudly named on your website. Would you like to share that wish us now? What are the connections of the foundation? Where does the money come from? This is a rude question . . . too bad . . . but you must reveal your financial connections if you are going to express a professional opinion like this one.