I would love to just hear someone on board just wondering how the fuck dose a bug worship facism if its a bug Like all the bug things about its eat ,kill and protect nest where dose the facisit idea fit in its a bug not a free thinking democracy lover .
Are you saying service guarantees citizenship? To be fair I don’t understand the difference between a citizen and a civilian. Or am I thinking of something else?
Every player has a slightly randomized crew. The voicework is all the same, but the names, skin tone, and sometimes the face meshes are different for each player's destroyer. Democracy officer will randomly have an eyepatch, too. It's a fun little touch.
@@molassesman4066 Except that in the first game the bald guy is a technology and stratagem officer, and the black guy is your campaign overseer and the propaganda narrator, while in the second game the bald guy is your campaign overseer.
You know that classic "Hive mind evil alien bug wants to destroy humans!" Trope that Starship Troopers and Helldivers is using? The bugs (Terminids) were ACTUALLY super peaceful during first contact and even managed to make a basic way to communicate. It was when humans started to get scared of the gigantic bugs was when all the fighting started, and AFTER when they learned of the bugs fossil fuel property, did it get ALOT worse...
Most? Name one person who can explicitly mention being on super earth, even the propaganda minister never does. If super earth is real, its definitely off limits for "normals"
10:15 “Managed Democracy offers true freedom. Freedom from the burden of choice” has gotta be one of the funniest voice lines I’ve ever heard in a video game
I don't know what is is about her delivery of the Ines, but Eriksson talking about the days back home feels so... nostalgic. Like, I feel a little moved with her delivery because it's the most romanticized of the 3. Like, you can feel the genuine pride and love for Super Earth. What a great performance
@@janehrahan5116I mean there are some pretty overt scenes in the troopers film. The issue is sometimes you can not be overt enough for people who ACTUALLY believe in the things it is making fun of.
"If we don't stop the bugs' mindless reproduction, the burden's going to fall on our children. And our children's children." This one made me laugh out loud. So good.
Taking out that Bile Titan with an impact grenade straight to the noggin, almost perfectly timed with the punchline of *_"Watching Helldivers in action is great for crew morale. It's even better than a... dissident execution."_* at 8:00 was amazing. Including gameplay clips was definitely a good idea.
You can actually find the planet on galactic war map. Currently it’s under Super-Earth control, but it’s pretty close to where automatons are advancing. Would be cool if they took it and an event/video was posted by the devs about it.
Yeah, a frozen hell scape of snow that reached all the way to your waist and cyborg camps every 10 steps... I wish I could have fought there more, but I focused my efforts on the Illuminates in the south.
When the second girl says about giving a half day off for liberty day most probably laugh and think “why not a full day “ then you remember they are basically on the front lines in a war
Lol democracy where an algorithm chooses the candidate and chooses one for you, you dont "vote" but the program votes for you. Lol love it, so "democratic".
@@had_fun_once I almost like the idea of anonymous, blind voting for someone based purely on how much you like their policies instead of the letter next to their name.
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You should read the heartwarming letters the SS and Wehrmacht sent home. Talking about their pride in their work. Of course that work was genocide in death camps and Soviet villages, but those were just "commie robots". It's actually the same now. Your soldiers harass and rob entire populations. Theft and rape are common. In real war zones like the Donbass and Palestine you're outright genocidal. Your tanks even have iron crosses and swastikas on them. But the letters sent home are all about pride and democracy.
There was one line from bettman that you missed. It was binary code supposedly from the first ever transmission from the automatons. It was only two letters, but I can't confirm because remembering binary is difficult when it's spoken so fast and so suddenly. I'm gonna have to assume the transmission said "Hi".
@@victuzAssuming there is even a human being behind it. Since voting is controlled by a program, who knows if it’s being used to control masses by someone, or if it is controlling the masses by itself.
bug: *screeching in biological lifeform that is just born, lives, moves around, eats, reproduces, and dies* human: "Fascist!" human: "What kind of propaganda are you fed?"
They are based in starship troopers bugs, which means they are probably highly intelligent life forms. I doubt they have propaganda though, freeing themselves from the shackles of their oppressors is all the motivation they need.
They're actually fully intelligent and achieved peaceful if rudimentary communication with humanity at first contact... then we learned that they decompose into starship fuel when they die. And up went the death camps-- er, _freedom farms._
Damn, I'm missing one quote... 😂 When mechanic says: When I was a child, I remember sometimes a democracy officer arrives and gives us some candies and he ask us what the adults are doing..." That was hilarious... 😂😂😂😂😂
@@JodchosenThey aren’t, the automatons were created by the Cyborgs from the first game and they also freed the bugs that were used to create oil from the breeding farms.
@@sxna4420I think the automatons are the cyborgs, just even more cybernetically enhanced and called automatons to make it seem like you aren’t killing humans
@@declicitous1763 nope its kinda confirmed that automatons are an AI of cyborgs, when cyborgs got caged they managed to send this AI out, so now automatons have a directive to get the cyborg leaders out of their prison on super earth. Thers a whole theory going around that we gonna get cyborgs or something similar after automatons capture super earth (the first game was a cycle, sonetimes helldivers won and sane systems were kept, sonetimes they lost and super earth had to be left behind and new one was formed, I think its posible this game could have a similar thing. Additionally it could be an interesting way to add a new faction, as when the devs are ready they could start a special event, like a large scale atack (similar to the defense even we have now but times 10) so automatons whould push us all the way to super earth, then if we as a comunity manage to somehow hold the onslought and protect it, they could easily say that during the fighting automatons relised the cyborgs or if we lose then just that the automatons victory alowed a new enemy to rise. That whould be a great even and overall thing, as if they gave players a posibility to influence the history and lore of the game then even more people whould be interested in the game, althou I'm preatty sure the servers are suffering enought as it is hahaha
Updates including more voice lines & NPCs to expand our perspective, would be fun. Could include a dissenter good at double speak & mincing their words, to avoid detection.
@@vladimirlestrad3120 It’ll improve one’s critical thinking & deduction, when identifying traitors. Which may improve one’s cognitive decision making, out in the field against our fascist & socialist adversaries.
I love how everyone is commenting on the lines and stuff, but are we going to ignore the fact that this gamer killed a bile titan with a frag grenade at 8:06? That is genuinely impressive.
I know you probably put the gameplay to make the video interesting, but I love that it comes across like the Helldiver is remembering these conversation with their crew in the middle of combat.
12:10 A strange twist on Nathan Hale's (supposed) final words, "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." Hale was a spy for the Continental Army in the American Revolution. He was caught and executed by the British in 1776.
It's like that IRL too A single jet fighter is worth dozens of millions, guided missiles are often priced between tens of thousands to several million a piece
As veteran, what the Service tech employer said about bug evolving into the Terminids in the war today is very accurate. The body cams (Videos) I see today doesn't have the tentacle boss bug anymore, the chargers are faster and more ferocious, and the small infantry bugs doesn't have as much shell-ish cover anymore.
There's something so satisfying about adding the word "Super" to everything. Super Earth, super citizen, super credits, super destroyer. Im almost surprised they don't call it super democracy rather than managed democracy.
It's kind of a brainwashing type of speech if you think about it. They are shoving the political propaganda down your throat. Helldivers 2 cranked that up from the first game to 11.
I like to imagine even the hire ups in government are being effected by the constant freedom propaganda too..: so much so they might have actually tried to make bugs and automatons do freedom. Just watching them do what ever
I have a theory that the algorithm does actually work and is selecting what people are asking for and super earth is actually the result of everyone's choices. Example I want to know the truth Easy way to do that is to put a bunch of people in charge who decide what the truth is As a loose example
@@rg7599id say its more... starship troopers adjacent... the book itself has some points that are interesting. But this is just a evil society, not all of the points the crew make are wrong, but a lot of them are not right.
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni (CHORUS) Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle dandy! Mind the music and the step, and with the girls be handy!
That's the Democratic Enhanced Enforcement chip, also known as "The DEE," activating that officer's more sensible alternate personality. Clearly, his normal persona is trapped in the memories of the last war, when the Illuminate were s constant threat. His alternate persona has accepted that these WMD-having aliens are gone forever; if only his normal persona would do the same...
How do you not realise it's satire of modern day liberalism? Right side of history Enemies are fascists Voting machines Policed speech and thought. Preventing people from "voting against their interests" There's even references to telling people to spend their money to help the economy. It's taking the piss out of the "threat to our democracy" bullshit that's been rolled out for decades.
honestly, it’s kinda sad listening to how all this propaganda effectively molds their brains and society. From the engineer lady, you could hear that having a gold fish or god forbid a hamster is a luxury in their universe. Hell, one of the propaganda advertisements in your destroyer states, clear as day that once a child reaches the age of eight, they’re eligible for drafting or enlistment. I know I’m not the first to say this and I know I damn well wont be the last, but Super Earth and the whole “all are equal, but some are more equal than others” thing puts into perspective that we aren’t the bad guys, but we truly, are not the good guys
Nah you're the bad guys, at least as much as the mindless stormtroopers in star wars or w/e. The terminids in particular being peaceful intelligent aliens that humanity forced into death camps to use as fuel is pretty much as evil as it gets lol
The bugs you fight came from bugs that broke out of captivity because they were being harvested for fuel - the robots you fight are war machines, I have no idea if there is a peaceful bot version in their home sector or what. It's a game, with over the top and on the nose humour, and sometimes, when some events or voice lines hit a little too close to home, it becomes great satire -Is what a weak pre-democratic citizen from not-super-earth would say. So I guess, in human terms, youre the good guys, but to every other galactic species, you're the villain.
@@Macintoshibathe automatons were originally people who left super-earth cause they didn't agree politically then became cyborgs then full on robots cause they got almost completely destroyed so make of that what you will.
@@Macintoshiba essentially, yeah. Basically what a tyrant nation is. Amazing living conditions to the unknowing and lower ranking folk, but horrible and ruthless people to anybody the nation sees as any type of roadblock or future problem
Most likely humans. The reason why Super Earth hasn't eradicated the bugs yet even tought they could have is because they produce quality oil when they die. So they've been trying to tame them in farms with no success and the bugs escaped.
@@wintersong2266 And they have "mutated" (they have evolved actually) according to Super Earth's government since Helldivers 1, that's why they are looking a tiny bit "refreshed" in appearance now, although we don't have tentacles bugs and black drones anymore, we still have Behemoths (who are now called Chargers) and transparent bugs. While we don't know if the Automatons are related to the Cyborgs or not. Now we have to wait until the Illuminates eventually return to the galaxy.
Has anyone gotten the binary code dialogue from shipmaster Bettman? She says it was the first message from the automatons and I’m wondering if anyone has deciphered the code yet?
The sad thing is I do genuinely think that Super Earth's prop machine is the only way to have a galactic government like that. Warhammer 40K is a great example of how dissent inside an empire, even a small amount, can lead to an absolute fracture of leadership and unity, leading to trillions of deaths. A unified Imperium would be far stronger, the galaxy wouldn't stand a chance. The Imperium would be able to handle everything because half of their time is spent chasing down traitors. If we had the same issue on Super Earth, Helldivers would be dispatched to kill off dissidents too much to be able to spread Democracy to the bots and the bugs.
Where did the automatons come from I wonder? They still wear the icons of the cyborgs, but the cyborgs were enslaved, so... Guess we will have to make our way to Cyberstan to figure out what the hell happened.
I think the cyborgs created them as cannon fodder in desperation. I also suspect that they'll try to retake cyberstan and that will be how the cyborgs come back.
Think it's Oil. The bugs produce oil when they die. That's why Super Earth supposedly goes out of their way to ensure that they are never fully killed o*BAM* THOUGHT CRIME DETECTED AND DEALT WITH! GLORY TO DEMOCRACY!
That's what I thought too. How can the Terminids understand the concept of society and politics? Unless they are also just as intelligent and we don't know it yet.
ngl the letting the algorithm select our leaders one kinda hit a little close to home living in the US. Just replace algorithm with the so called two separate parties.
Idk if mine was bugged but once I talked to the service tech, the only other Npc with a white talk icon was the person against the wall hard right of the armory where the computers are. Obviously I can’t get down there to talk to them but it’s weird that npc even has a talk icon
To be fucking honest, I would prefer to live with all those bugs being woken every fucking day by another stomping titan right over my window or hearing every 30 seconds same automaton march out of my bedroom again that living a second in a world where you get "another doctors visit a year" or "get enough citizenship points to get my children goldfish". My god in christ, this isn't a fucking satire anymore. That's straight saying living in slimy bug conditions is better.
Its weird how i dont see like any form of citizen suffering except when theyre stuck on a planet, and even then they're Totally grateful, its all just funny
Yeah they don’t suffer and rarely if ever does a normal citizen have anything to worry about. Except if they are one of those worlds that are taken over. that’s pretty much the worse they can suffer
So the bugs i dont understand why we act like there understand propaganda and radio . Now the robots I understand those fuckers sing so they must understand propaganda These are just some ideas that i could see some NPC saying
The absurdity of these speeches is that Super Earth's government assumes the Terminids are an intelligent species who understand the concept of society and political system (and not a queen-based hivemind), and not that they are like a type of fauna like the animals on Earth.
The bugs are sentient, or were at some point before we enslaved and genetically modified their species... maybe they still are, who knows lol. We actually made entirely peaceful first contact with them, though communication was rudimentary because their means of it are very different from human speech and writing. Then we found out that they decompose into starship fuel when they die...
"It's so silly how they believe they're fascists but they've been tricked into thinking they're democratic heroes spreading freedom" muses the 36-year-old American IT guy on his lunch break. He closes the video and goes back to his desk, coffee mug in hand, and gets back to work on a flight control program for drones that will be used by his military to drop bombs on people on the other side of the world.
"B-but it's the Palestinians, Russians and Chinese that are fascist! Everyone knows that! I know propaganda when I see it. Now I haven't actually heard a word any of them have said or what they're shown on TV but I know it's fascist propaganda!"
The 36 year old guy (if he knows it's being done for the military) damn well knows what that drone will be used for. There is no pretentious notions like that anymore for most military folk, it's more a "it's my life or theirs" attitude.
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni (CHORUS) Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle dandy! Mind the music and the step, and with the girls be handy!
8:41 the Shipmaster worships Super Earth without ever actually visiting Earth. Imagine that... so anyway all Muslims point themselves towards Mecca when they pray
It’s really funny to hear them talk about how it’s the bugs that are being influenced by propaganda.
That sounded a little treasonous there, bud.
It aint wrong aint it? they are influenced by a "Hive" network. That's a form of propaganda! Managed Democracy doesn't accept this.
I would love to just hear someone on board just wondering how the fuck dose a bug worship facism if its a bug
Like all the bug things about its eat ,kill and protect nest where dose the facisit idea fit in its a bug not a free thinking democracy lover .
@@AlbertJ04😂😂😂
In a sense, the hivemind and pheomones they're using to control the drone bugs can be akin to propaganda.
Brain? Bug? Frankly, I find the idea that a bug could *think* offensive!
The fact they don't accept our freedom makes it more than enough of a confirmation that they don't have brains.
Starship Troopers
Well it doesnt!
*IT ABSORBS YOURS*
A full tour of duty equals full citizenship.
Full tour of duty= death for liberty and freedom
Lore wise?
For some strange reason, few have attained citizenship this way.
@@RuiWang-zm2ueTeamkilling!!!
Are you saying service guarantees citizenship? To be fair I don’t understand the difference between a citizen and a civilian.
Or am I thinking of something else?
Every player has a slightly randomized crew. The voicework is all the same, but the names, skin tone, and sometimes the face meshes are different for each player's destroyer. Democracy officer will randomly have an eyepatch, too. It's a fun little touch.
So your saying my ship having a mission overseer guy looking identical to the one in the first game is luck?
Wait the democracy officer occasionally doesn’t have an eyepatch?
@@molassesman4066 Except that in the first game the bald guy is a technology and stratagem officer, and the black guy is your campaign overseer and the propaganda narrator, while in the second game the bald guy is your campaign overseer.
Mine has an eye patch, I like to think he is my old character from the 1st game.
@@victuz Guess Baldy got a promotion
They have to pay for their own equipment?
Pretty sure everyone here is an indentured servant.
It's a facist government. The state owns everything. All "private property" is a thin illusion. You will own nothing and will be happy :)
Well. That's sounds an awful lot like treason.
Thanks for free Citizenship points, undemocratic traitor
@@NebKraheget his ass
You say that like you don't pay taxes, you filthy fifth columnist
They nailed the Democracy officers voice.
He sounds ALOT like Zapp Branigan, like disturbingly so, literally checked online to see if the guy who voiced Zapp voiced the officer.
@@Laikafan02 Absolutely, that line about 'I only regret that I only have one ship worth of lives to sacrifice.' immediately brought him to mind.
And the Japanese dub DO is pretty 🔥
I legit thought it was Keith David doing his voice lol
You know that classic "Hive mind evil alien bug wants to destroy humans!" Trope that Starship Troopers and Helldivers is using? The bugs (Terminids) were ACTUALLY super peaceful during first contact and even managed to make a basic way to communicate. It was when humans started to get scared of the gigantic bugs was when all the fighting started, and AFTER when they learned of the bugs fossil fuel property, did it get ALOT worse...
That fits. All super earth's enemies are ones they created.
Sounds like dissident propaganda this will be documented and reported
Sorry mate but I'm calling the feds on you. Can't have false information on our site now can we.
HEY!
NO TREASON!
Sounds like communist cockroach propaganda. Your local democracy officer WILL be hearing about this.
the fact that most of them don't even get to live on super earth lmao
Most? Name one person who can explicitly mention being on super earth, even the propaganda minister never does. If super earth is real, its definitely off limits for "normals"
@@janehrahan5116 Reckon it's a situation where Earth is destroyed and no one is allowed in the origin system to find out?
That's my other hypothesis
They all grew up there before deployment??? It’s in the video???
I suspect that may not be the "real" super earth.
@@Drip_Relyks64
7:47 “you know the problem with the bugs is that they are relentless expansionist in they’re region of space we found the on every planet we settled”
What are you implying? Nothing treasonous, I hope.
10:15 “Managed Democracy offers true freedom. Freedom from the burden of choice” has gotta be one of the funniest voice lines I’ve ever heard in a video game
Wait until you learn about real life democracy. You'll laugh yourself silly!
I don't know what is is about her delivery of the Ines, but Eriksson talking about the days back home feels so... nostalgic. Like, I feel a little moved with her delivery because it's the most romanticized of the 3. Like, you can feel the genuine pride and love for Super Earth. What a great performance
It would almost be sweet if it wasn't so dystopic
@@The-Okami-Project hold your talk right there dissident, i'm reporting you to the ministry of truth. glory to the managed democracy!
@@The-Okami-Project Thanks for the citizenship point traitor, now I can go get my knee checked out
@@Im_oofman232 dissident gang
I love how ironic this is lmao
Erikkson: oh, if only there was a peaceful solution to the war.
Illuminate: MOTHERFU-!!
"The bugs are expansionists. We found them on nearly every planet we settled
its Starship troopers turned up to 11 lol
It's what verhoven thought he made but didn't.
@@janehrahan5116I mean there are some pretty overt scenes in the troopers film. The issue is sometimes you can not be overt enough for people who ACTUALLY believe in the things it is making fun of.
"If we don't stop the bugs' mindless reproduction, the burden's going to fall on our children. And our children's children."
This one made me laugh out loud. So good.
Human reproduction isn't mindless! We gotta fill out a C-1 Form first.
Also "Bots are rapid expensionists, we found signs of them in every planet we settled on!"
Lmao
Taking out that Bile Titan with an impact grenade straight to the noggin, almost perfectly timed with the punchline of *_"Watching Helldivers in action is great for crew morale. It's even better than a... dissident execution."_* at 8:00 was amazing. Including gameplay clips was definitely a good idea.
Wait Cyberstan is a real place and NOT just a joke my brother made up?
Yes, I was there among other old veteran divers during Cyberstan's Last Defense, you can watch the records here on UA-cam.
You can actually find the planet on galactic war map. Currently it’s under Super-Earth control, but it’s pretty close to where automatons are advancing. Would be cool if they took it and an event/video was posted by the devs about it.
@@Blackwatch8800Filthy traitors probably want their silly little 'capital' back.
Yeah, a frozen hell scape of snow that reached all the way to your waist and cyborg camps every 10 steps... I wish I could have fought there more, but I focused my efforts on the Illuminates in the south.
Yep it's where first real uprising happened and was also swiftly put down
Quick reminder that your characters in the first game allowed all of these people in the 2nd game to even live
wym
When the second girl says about giving a half day off for liberty day most probably laugh and think “why not a full day “ then you remember they are basically on the front lines in a war
Yeah it’s probably a shift system. One half of the crew gets their half day off while the rest of the crew are on duty.
Lol democracy where an algorithm chooses the candidate and chooses one for you, you dont "vote" but the program votes for you.
Lol love it, so "democratic".
It's Managed Democracy socialist automaton sympathizer!
Eriksson did mention something about filling in a preferences ballot... so I guess the algorithm votes for you based on that.
Allegedly
@@had_fun_once I almost like the idea of anonymous, blind voting for someone based purely on how much you like their policies instead of the letter next to their name.
I mean, it's probably a pretty good algorithm
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You know, some of those lines from the service crew are actually... heartwarming in a way.
You should read the heartwarming letters the SS and Wehrmacht sent home. Talking about their pride in their work. Of course that work was genocide in death camps and Soviet villages, but those were just "commie robots".
It's actually the same now. Your soldiers harass and rob entire populations. Theft and rape are common. In real war zones like the Donbass and Palestine you're outright genocidal. Your tanks even have iron crosses and swastikas on them. But the letters sent home are all about pride and democracy.
There was one line from bettman that you missed. It was binary code supposedly from the first ever transmission from the automatons. It was only two letters, but I can't confirm because remembering binary is difficult when it's spoken so fast and so suddenly.
I'm gonna have to assume the transmission said "Hi".
Yes it's 2 letters and supposedly says AH, but I can't get a screencap anywhere to confirm. My original guess was also "Hi"
E-710 farms: 710 is “OIL” spelled backwards. Lol
E-0IL
makes sense.
Upside down not backwards😂
Just swap 'Freedom' with 'Emperor' and it just fit right in. lol
I wonder who the head of the state is in Helldivers universe, is it a "president" or an oligarchic council like the High Lords of Terra?
@@victuzAssuming there is even a human being behind it. Since voting is controlled by a program, who knows if it’s being used to control masses by someone, or if it is controlling the masses by itself.
@@victuzprobably a quote unquote democratic counsel
@@victuz There is a president of Super Earth I think.
@@victuz Some of the newsreels have explicitly mentioned a President. How much power they actually have is another matter.
bug: *screeching in biological lifeform that is just born, lives, moves around, eats, reproduces, and dies*
human: "Fascist!"
human: "What kind of propaganda are you fed?"
They maybe intelligent since they somehow achieved intergalactic travel.
They are based in starship troopers bugs, which means they are probably highly intelligent life forms. I doubt they have propaganda though, freeing themselves from the shackles of their oppressors is all the motivation they need.
They're actually fully intelligent and achieved peaceful if rudimentary communication with humanity at first contact... then we learned that they decompose into starship fuel when they die. And up went the death camps-- er, _freedom farms._
@@Bolt451 the hive leaders are probably low level sentient, but they didn't spread to other planets on their own
@@reecetaylor2626 they how did they as far as I’m aware there were no other species in the area for them to stow away on ships
Damn, I'm missing one quote... 😂
When mechanic says: When I was a child, I remember sometimes a democracy officer arrives and gives us some candies and he ask us what the adults are doing..."
That was hilarious... 😂😂😂😂😂
When you think about it, the democratic officer sounds alot like Zapp Branigan from Futurama
Hey, foxhole dude, what are you doing here?
When you're a Helldiver, every mission is a suicide mission.
:O
I’d like to see the npcs more animated and doing real duties around the ship, mopping, talking, planning, arguing… More immersion, more everything.
After we squash the bigs, we dismantle the bots, I will personally recommend Eriksson for Class A citizenship.
"Hans, are we the baddies?"
No. We are spreading managed democracy
We literally have skull motif on our helmets.
I wonder when the dissidents will become their own faction.
The automatons are the dissidents apparently
@@Jodchosen True, but imagine if we had missions to put down dissident human colonies in already liberated planets
@@JodchosenThey aren’t, the automatons were created by the Cyborgs from the first game and they also freed the bugs that were used to create oil from the breeding farms.
@@sxna4420I think the automatons are the cyborgs, just even more cybernetically enhanced and called automatons to make it seem like you aren’t killing humans
@@declicitous1763 nope its kinda confirmed that automatons are an AI of cyborgs, when cyborgs got caged they managed to send this AI out, so now automatons have a directive to get the cyborg leaders out of their prison on super earth.
Thers a whole theory going around that we gonna get cyborgs or something similar after automatons capture super earth (the first game was a cycle, sonetimes helldivers won and sane systems were kept, sonetimes they lost and super earth had to be left behind and new one was formed, I think its posible this game could have a similar thing.
Additionally it could be an interesting way to add a new faction, as when the devs are ready they could start a special event, like a large scale atack (similar to the defense even we have now but times 10) so automatons whould push us all the way to super earth, then if we as a comunity manage to somehow hold the onslought and protect it, they could easily say that during the fighting automatons relised the cyborgs or if we lose then just that the automatons victory alowed a new enemy to rise.
That whould be a great even and overall thing, as if they gave players a posibility to influence the history and lore of the game then even more people whould be interested in the game, althou I'm preatty sure the servers are suffering enought as it is hahaha
Updates including more voice lines & NPCs to expand our perspective, would be fun. Could include a dissenter good at double speak & mincing their words, to avoid detection.
That’s not a very democratic suggestion pal. Might have to report you to the Ministry of Democracy.
@@vladimirlestrad3120 It’ll improve one’s critical thinking & deduction, when identifying traitors. Which may improve one’s cognitive decision making, out in the field against our fascist & socialist adversaries.
Maybe some kind of brig to hold all the no good dissenters
@@Crabririyes, perhaps it’s a Ministry of Truth agent pretending to be a dissident precisely to test people?
Democracy officer = commissar
"If we don't stop the bugs' mindless reproduction, that burden is going to fall on our children. And our childrens' children."
I love how everyone is commenting on the lines and stuff, but are we going to ignore the fact that this gamer killed a bile titan with a frag grenade at 8:06? That is genuinely impressive.
Yo ho yo ho a helldivers life for me.
It's honestly crazy that Super Earth has somehow turned Democracy into a religion.
Chesterton did say that to abolish God is to make Government God.
I know you probably put the gameplay to make the video interesting, but I love that it comes across like the Helldiver is remembering these conversation with their crew in the middle of combat.
Its really funny hearing them talk about their life while saying things like "Freedom savings time"
Why would they have Daylight savings time in space?? 😂
Just as idiotic as some Americans saying Freedom Fries, post 9/11, cause they disliked the French for not supporting their war.
12:10 A strange twist on Nathan Hale's (supposed) final words, "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."
Hale was a spy for the Continental Army in the American Revolution. He was caught and executed by the British in 1776.
among us counter (with timestamps)
6:21 - among us 1
9:11 - among us sequel
hope you guys enjoyed
"...the cost of one stratagem is more than most citizens make in a year"
Oh...
Wow
It's like that IRL too
A single jet fighter is worth dozens of millions, guided missiles are often priced between tens of thousands to several million a piece
Some of the best parts of the game is in these lines
0:06
"No fascism here, insects!"
Narrator: "But there was, in fact, fascism here."
As veteran, what the Service tech employer said about bug evolving into the Terminids in the war today is very accurate. The body cams (Videos) I see today doesn't have the tentacle boss bug anymore, the chargers are faster and more ferocious, and the small infantry bugs doesn't have as much shell-ish cover anymore.
i want the tentacle bug boss back since its the first big enemy you face in the bugs
There's something so satisfying about adding the word "Super" to everything. Super Earth, super citizen, super credits, super destroyer. Im almost surprised they don't call it super democracy rather than managed democracy.
Take a shot for everytime they say democracy
I, too, am tired of life
It's kind of a brainwashing type of speech if you think about it. They are shoving the political propaganda down your throat. Helldivers 2 cranked that up from the first game to 11.
*bug noises*
"hmm yes these bugs are being fed propaganda"
appreciate the gameplay and god damn that's a lot of 500 KGs.
eriksson has to be lilith from bl2
I wouldn't worry too much about the names, because I'm pretty sure they alternate from a list.
I like to imagine even the hire ups in government are being effected by the constant freedom propaganda too..: so much so they might have actually tried to make bugs and automatons do freedom. Just watching them do what ever
I have a theory that the algorithm does actually work and is selecting what people are asking for and super earth is actually the result of everyone's choices. Example
I want to know the truth
Easy way to do that is to put a bunch of people in charge who decide what the truth is
As a loose example
"Holy shit! I got selected to be a candidate in the next election! What an honor to become a beacon of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!" - future president.
6:45 They talked about bugs and then you can see a dragonfly passing behind the player.
Whoever wrote these lines deserves an award
Personal favorite is the one about everyone becoming political experts overnight
Better dead as a patriot than alive as a dissenter!
0:40 "freedom saving time", 😂 good one.
3:55 That was a tad suspicius, Service Technician Erikson
helldivers 2 is the parody to heinlein book verhoven wishes he couldve done with the starship troopers movie
It's not a starship troopers parody.
no shit
@@rg7599id say its more... starship troopers adjacent... the book itself has some points that are interesting.
But this is just a evil society, not all of the points the crew make are wrong, but a lot of them are not right.
I don't know how anyone can hear this and not understand the satire lmao
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni (CHORUS) Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle dandy! Mind the music and the step, and with the girls be handy!
D.O Johansson sound almost the same with EDF 5 Commander
I love these crew!
Some times the democracy officer says”the moment the illuminate-) then cuts off to a different voice line
That's the Democratic Enhanced Enforcement chip, also known as "The DEE," activating that officer's more sensible alternate personality. Clearly, his normal persona is trapped in the memories of the last war, when the Illuminate were s constant threat. His alternate persona has accepted that these WMD-having aliens are gone forever; if only his normal persona would do the same...
Ours will be the hands that tear the binds of tyranny asunder.
I really want to play as the dissidents maybe it could be a spin off game.
Griefers in multiplayer games are referred to as dissidents.
The tools are leased out to their engineers.. jeez!!
Man the you can tell the entire society has been fed propaganda for centuries. Devs did a good job satirizing the ideal fascist state.
Sounds like treason right there.... I'll report you to the ministry of truth
How do you not realise it's satire of modern day liberalism?
Right side of history
Enemies are fascists
Voting machines
Policed speech and thought.
Preventing people from "voting against their interests"
There's even references to telling people to spend their money to help the economy.
It's taking the piss out of the "threat to our democracy" bullshit that's been rolled out for decades.
"democratic preference ballot" lmao
I'd like to fill out My C-01 Permit with Ship Master Bettman if you know what I'm saying. B]
honestly, it’s kinda sad listening to how all this propaganda effectively molds their brains and society. From the engineer lady, you could hear that having a gold fish or god forbid a hamster is a luxury in their universe. Hell, one of the propaganda advertisements in your destroyer states, clear as day that once a child reaches the age of eight, they’re eligible for drafting or enlistment. I know I’m not the first to say this and I know I damn well wont be the last, but Super Earth and the whole “all are equal, but some are more equal than others” thing puts into perspective that we aren’t the bad guys, but we truly, are not the good guys
Is a cyborg writing this?
Reported to a democracy officer
Nah you're the bad guys, at least as much as the mindless stormtroopers in star wars or w/e. The terminids in particular being peaceful intelligent aliens that humanity forced into death camps to use as fuel is pretty much as evil as it gets lol
The bugs you fight came from bugs that broke out of captivity because they were being harvested for fuel - the robots you fight are war machines, I have no idea if there is a peaceful bot version in their home sector or what. It's a game, with over the top and on the nose humour, and sometimes, when some events or voice lines hit a little too close to home, it becomes great satire
-Is what a weak pre-democratic citizen from not-super-earth would say.
So I guess, in human terms, youre the good guys, but to every other galactic species, you're the villain.
@@Macintoshibathe automatons were originally people who left super-earth cause they didn't agree politically then became cyborgs then full on robots cause they got almost completely destroyed so make of that what you will.
@@Macintoshiba essentially, yeah. Basically what a tyrant nation is. Amazing living conditions to the unknowing and lower ranking folk, but horrible and ruthless people to anybody the nation sees as any type of roadblock or future problem
First one did she admit to the bugs being modified by someone
Most likely humans. The reason why Super Earth hasn't eradicated the bugs yet even tought they could have is because they produce quality oil when they die. So they've been trying to tame them in farms with no success and the bugs escaped.
@@wintersong2266 And they have "mutated" (they have evolved actually) according to Super Earth's government since Helldivers 1, that's why they are looking a tiny bit "refreshed" in appearance now, although we don't have tentacles bugs and black drones anymore, we still have Behemoths (who are now called Chargers) and transparent bugs. While we don't know if the Automatons are related to the Cyborgs or not. Now we have to wait until the Illuminates eventually return to the galaxy.
Super earth was using the bugs for farming porpuses and modifed them
@@victuzwhat did illuminate do to get nuked they didn’t deserve it.
@@valentinov901 yeah that sounds about right for humans lol
Has anyone gotten the binary code dialogue from shipmaster Bettman?
She says it was the first message from the automatons and I’m wondering if anyone has deciphered the code yet?
No joke. The first one just says "Hi"
Wait, what the hell is going on in your gameplay at 12:40 and onward? Like, is that pilot high on Liberty or sth?
That might have happened because there was a charger in the landing zone.
Theres a fourth crewmate on the right when entering the bridge. He has a "talk" button, but you cant reach him.
The sad thing is I do genuinely think that Super Earth's prop machine is the only way to have a galactic government like that. Warhammer 40K is a great example of how dissent inside an empire, even a small amount, can lead to an absolute fracture of leadership and unity, leading to trillions of deaths. A unified Imperium would be far stronger, the galaxy wouldn't stand a chance. The Imperium would be able to handle everything because half of their time is spent chasing down traitors. If we had the same issue on Super Earth, Helldivers would be dispatched to kill off dissidents too much to be able to spread Democracy to the bots and the bugs.
"Lady liberties calls for aid haunts my dreams"
Oh lord they still have day light savings time
Where did the automatons come from I wonder? They still wear the icons of the cyborgs, but the cyborgs were enslaved, so... Guess we will have to make our way to Cyberstan to figure out what the hell happened.
My guess is they’re a splinter group of cyborgs who retreated into a less-explored sector
I think the cyborgs created them as cannon fodder in desperation. I also suspect that they'll try to retake cyberstan and that will be how the cyborgs come back.
What’s E-710? Is it like a miracle cure or something?
Think it's Oil. The bugs produce oil when they die.
That's why Super Earth supposedly goes out of their way to ensure that they are never fully killed o*BAM*
THOUGHT CRIME DETECTED AND DEALT WITH! GLORY TO DEMOCRACY!
FTL fuel.
It's oil. It's quite literally just space ship fuel that we're fighting the bugs over, since killing them and letting them rot produces it
@@DB-cn6rw The United States would have the biggest boner of it's life if that happened in real life.
@@DB-cn6rw It's simply a fossil fuel.
6:21
AMOGUS
Goddamit
All the people saying this game isn’t political satire and I hear the word facist like 5 times in the first 2 minutes lmao.
in all honestly how does one convince a thinking people that bugs have the ability to be affected by propaganda
That's what I thought too. How can the Terminids understand the concept of society and politics? Unless they are also just as intelligent and we don't know it yet.
Have to? Not at all. Choose to. Of course. Why go with one layer of hatred when you can have an onion.
@@victuz They likely don't.
Reminder there are people in the real world that believe the world is flat and the government are lizard’s
6:06 tell that to my teammate just casually drop a 500kg bomb under my feet. 🤬
Or a few minutes after your mark, we see 3 different stratagems get dropped on one patrol
ngl the letting the algorithm select our leaders one kinda hit a little close to home living in the US. Just replace algorithm with the so called two separate parties.
Idk if mine was bugged but once I talked to the service tech, the only other Npc with a white talk icon was the person against the wall hard right of the armory where the computers are. Obviously I can’t get down there to talk to them but it’s weird that npc even has a talk icon
Superearth is a stupid name, but thats the point right?
Rule Of Cool
Pretty much
@@Random.Rebel.Lt.General "Cool" is not the word I'd use
They named it Superearth after the unification of all governments under one rule
At 1:37
Some bug's leg was cut off and glitched to just jitter in air
"mellifluous clarion" !!
3:01 Sympathy for bugs and bots? Sounds like treason to me. I'll be reporting this to a democracy officer.
Shipmaster Bettmann got a big butt 😂
I do love how a legit fascist gov is calling bugs fascist 😂 bugs dont even know what governments be
I want this woman to marry me, once i earn enough Super Citizen credits to get married
Least brainwashed Super Citizen
There are two more NPCs you didn't talk to one on the side of the walk way and one below you when you get unfrozen
3:04 she caught herself 😭
To be fucking honest, I would prefer to live with all those bugs being woken every fucking day by another stomping titan right over my window or hearing every 30 seconds same automaton march out of my bedroom again that living a second in a world where you get "another doctors visit a year" or "get enough citizenship points to get my children goldfish". My god in christ, this isn't a fucking satire anymore. That's straight saying living in slimy bug conditions is better.
You doubled a lot of the lines in this video you know
Its weird how i dont see like any form of citizen suffering except when theyre stuck on a planet, and even then they're Totally grateful, its all just funny
It's almost like they live in a Brave New World.
Yeah they don’t suffer and rarely if ever does a normal citizen have anything to worry about.
Except if they are one of those worlds that are taken over. that’s pretty much the worse they can suffer
Humanity are the true bad guys here.
trolling much?
Report to the nearest Democracy Officer
So the bugs i dont understand why we act like there understand propaganda and radio . Now the robots I understand those fuckers sing so they must understand propaganda
These are just some ideas that i could see some NPC saying
The absurdity of these speeches is that Super Earth's government assumes the Terminids are an intelligent species who understand the concept of society and political system (and not a queen-based hivemind), and not that they are like a type of fauna like the animals on Earth.
The bugs are sentient, or were at some point before we enslaved and genetically modified their species... maybe they still are, who knows lol. We actually made entirely peaceful first contact with them, though communication was rudimentary because their means of it are very different from human speech and writing. Then we found out that they decompose into starship fuel when they die...
"It's so silly how they believe they're fascists but they've been tricked into thinking they're democratic heroes spreading freedom" muses the 36-year-old American IT guy on his lunch break. He closes the video and goes back to his desk, coffee mug in hand, and gets back to work on a flight control program for drones that will be used by his military to drop bombs on people on the other side of the world.
"B-but it's the Palestinians, Russians and Chinese that are fascist! Everyone knows that! I know propaganda when I see it. Now I haven't actually heard a word any of them have said or what they're shown on TV but I know it's fascist propaganda!"
yeah no shiet, the woke is the continuation of the western imperial moral system not its antithesis.
The 36 year old guy (if he knows it's being done for the military) damn well knows what that drone will be used for. There is no pretentious notions like that anymore for most military folk, it's more a "it's my life or theirs" attitude.
Ah, now I see why conservatives don’t get the joke.
They get the joke. They consider it a dumb joke and find it more fun to buy into the satire. Especially when it upsets people like you.
@@shifty_dragon3679 so, your only point is you don't get the joke and live to annoy people? Yup, i'm so upset at your empty life.
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni (CHORUS) Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle dandy! Mind the music and the step, and with the girls be handy!
8:41 the Shipmaster worships Super Earth without ever actually visiting Earth. Imagine that... so anyway all Muslims point themselves towards Mecca when they pray
The last pure religion