Just How FAST Was Jeff Thomson, Actually?

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  • @CricketStories007
    @CricketStories007  10 місяців тому +11

    Hey Cricket Lovers, what topic should we cover next?

    • @gautaml6891
      @gautaml6891 10 місяців тому +3

      Chris Cairns

    • @andrewksadventures
      @andrewksadventures 10 місяців тому +4

      How about Rebel Tour's or early WSC.

    • @baricho4771
      @baricho4771 10 місяців тому +5

      How about some of the great All Rounders we have had the pleasure of seeing over the last 50 years? Benaud, Miller, Sobers, Botham, Akram, Imran, Kapil Dev, Hadlee.. just to name a few.. All Rounders bring something special to our great game..

    • @vincentmahon6423
      @vincentmahon6423 10 місяців тому +1

      Jacques Kallis, please. The runs, the wickets, the catches. Is he the best ever in the history of the game?

    • @hallmitchell
      @hallmitchell 9 місяців тому +2

      West Indian pace bowlers, 1983 World Cup, Greatest teams of all time.

  • @robertferraro236
    @robertferraro236 10 місяців тому +52

    As a kid I saw Thommo live at the MCG. What blows one's mind the most is how far from the end of the pitch the keeper and slips are. You don't get an idea of that from video.

    • @pramodsmehta8531
      @pramodsmehta8531 10 місяців тому +1

      I remember listening commentary of India vs Australia 1977-78 series. Along with Alan Hurst he was fearsome. Regards to Thommo

    • @seanyuke3249
      @seanyuke3249 9 місяців тому

      Right you are. I remember seeing high shots in black and white back in the day and noticing that.

    • @evilstorm5954
      @evilstorm5954 9 місяців тому +3

      I also saw Lillie and Thomo at the MCG as a kid, and Viv and Clive, what a game Cricket was back when Men played it.

    • @kaiberberich1
      @kaiberberich1 Місяць тому

      @@evilstorm5954 that's a dumb comment - and an unnecessary put-down of all cricketers since then,
      Yes Thommo and Lillee were awesome, and I loved them - but I also appreciated Merv Hughes, Brett Lee, Shane Warne, Mitch Johnston, Ryan Harris, etc etc along with all the great international bowlers and all the great batsmen that played with them and faced them.

    • @evilstorm5954
      @evilstorm5954 Місяць тому

      @@kaiberberich1 piss off softcock

  • @oliverr9841
    @oliverr9841 9 місяців тому +15

    Thommo was a one one on a million freak of nature. A combination of fast twitch and extreme flexibility. His action is impossible to replicate.

  • @mis-tur-tay-bur
    @mis-tur-tay-bur 10 місяців тому +32

    From a book titled the Quicks by Robert Drane. Came out in 2022:
    It’s Thommo’s effect we’ll remember. His shattering, pillaging, trucking-well effectiveness. Who cares about statistics? Thommo doesn’t. His influence on a game - on the game - was enormous. Why? Because he was not only inhumanly fast; he made that rock do unprecedentedly vicious things, with steepling, blast-off bounce, from what was previously considered a good length. Good batsmen had their faces, ribcages and life-priorities rearranged. Opponents who’d just come off triumphant series were reduced to pallid, frail wraiths. He made batsmen who dined on good bowlers want to apologise for hitting him to the boundary. Not one worthy archrival stood when he was in the mood to prove batting was a hoax, its greatest practitioners overrated.
    Speed guns? Anyone who saw him, or faced him, especially pre-1977, would be amused at the ‘fastest man in history’ contest between Brett Lee and Shaoib Akhtar. Thomson was officially measured, long after the 1976 on-field collision that ruined his bowling shoulder. Two years before that, he’d already hurt it during a tennis match.
    The video assessment happened during season 1978-79, when he didn’t play, and had been sitting around drinking beer for months. In fact, he put down a beer to participate in the little exercise. Against Holding, Lillee, Roberts, Khan and LeRoux, he clocked the quickest, around 150, hardly extending himself. The Wild Man surprisingly also proved most accurate. He’d been unofficially clocked three years earlier, at over 160. Lillee, by the way, was timed at mid-150s then, after his comeback with reduced pace.
    Ian Chappell, never given to exaggeration, ignores ‘studies’, measurements, or historical judgements. He believed there was Thomson, then daylight, then the frightening Holding. ‘He had another gear’. Rod Marsh was in the front row, as Thommo’s wicketkeeper. I spent a week with him at the Cricket Academy in 1998. He was effusive then about a kid named Brett Lee. Later, he put the Lee-Akhtar ‘duel’ in perspective: ‘If they’re bowling 160, Thommo bowled 180.’ Clive Lloyd faced or played with them all. ‘There’s only one way to play him’, the fearless and ferocious Big Cat said once in his laconic way, ‘and that’s to get up the other end.’

    • @BarkerT
      @BarkerT 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the read 👍

    • @petepierre6458
      @petepierre6458 7 місяців тому +1

      Exactly spot on!!

    • @PraveenKumar-sr6ne
      @PraveenKumar-sr6ne 5 місяців тому

      Wow! What a read! Thanks for sharing..Love Thommo. Born to be bowl fast.

  • @tonyroy8123
    @tonyroy8123 9 місяців тому +12

    Thommo was lethal. I saw most of his test matches and other games. What a bowler!

  • @iandibley8032
    @iandibley8032 10 місяців тому +25

    Jeff Thompson,the greatest bowler... a fantastic era of Australian cricket.....no sandpaper or snivelling 😅

  • @BigAmp
    @BigAmp 10 місяців тому +20

    I think it also shows just how good some of the batsmen were that had to play him. Amazing reactions by Dennis Amiss just being able to get out of the way.

    • @BatMan-oe2gh
      @BatMan-oe2gh 10 місяців тому +3

      That's because they had already planned to get out of the way...lol..

    • @stephenhosking7384
      @stephenhosking7384 10 місяців тому +2

      0:44?
      I thought that was Alan Knott, but if it's Dennis Amiss then thanks!
      Either way, that short, which appeared several times, made the most impression on me. Ammis' (?) lightning reactions to get out of the way, then looking back down the pitch at Thomson with horror, as if "That's just too dangerous. Not fair!!". Batsmen instill in themselves a discipline to not show fear to fast bowlers, but that just shocked that of Ammis (?).

    • @BigAmp
      @BigAmp 10 місяців тому

      Hi - there were quite a few shown from the 74 - 75 tour and Alan Knott was amongst them. There is John Edrich getting bowled, Tony Greig getting bowled via a sand shoe crusher, Dennis Amiss getting his head out of the way, David Lloyd aka bumble getting hit in the bollocks, I think there is also a clip of Keith Fletcher and Derek Underwood and a few more - Brian Luckhirst may be one of them as well.@@stephenhosking7384

    • @kaiberberich1
      @kaiberberich1 Місяць тому +1

      And to think... many faced him without helmet with visor, and also, often without helmet at all...
      That's a "yeah.. nah ... but thanks !!!" - for me

  • @vincentmahon6423
    @vincentmahon6423 10 місяців тому +12

    When Thomson and Lillee were bowling Rod Marsh was taking a huge amount of deliveries into his gloves.
    His hands were taking such a pounding he put raw steak into the gloves as a liner for protection.
    Jeff said when the game was over he'd gladly have a beer with the opposition. Top, top sportsman.

    • @alaricgoldkuhl155
      @alaricgoldkuhl155 8 місяців тому +2

      Learnt that from Les Ames the English keeper in the Bodyline series keeping to Larwood who did the same.

  • @glennduarte
    @glennduarte 8 місяців тому +6

    Those days bowlers had upper hand nowadays its the batsman

  • @terryallen5328
    @terryallen5328 10 місяців тому +18

    Saw him in his prime before the shoulder injury in 1976 and his pace was absolutely frightening. Watching from square of the wicket the ball was often just a blur until it reached the keeper. After the shoulder injury he was still very quick but he had lost the extra zip which had made him so frightening. When he was timed back in the 70’s at 99.79mph this was as the ball reached the batsman’s end not out of the hand like they do today. Given that a ball slows down through the air and off the pitch, what speed must it have been travelling at as he released it? On average a ball slows down between 10%-15% through the air and off the pitch, obviously this will vary on different pitches etc. however if you use the lower 10% figure and apply it to the speed of the ball after it had reach the batsman’s end. This would give it an out of the hand speed of 109.76mph. Even if the ball slowed by as little as 5% this still gives a hand release speed of 104.77mph. Which ever way you look at it Thommo was quicker than the bowlers of today, including Acktar, Lee & Tait who have all been timed at 100mph out of the hand. The main thing about Thommo was that he didn’t just bowl the odd delivery at this speed, he was consistently bowling up there.

    • @charliebrady3751
      @charliebrady3751 10 місяців тому +3

      Terry, the first time I saw him bowl was at the SCG in Sheffield Shield. I came into the ground under the old Sheridan Stand and across the concrete concourse which was below pitch level. I had exactly the same experience of seeing the slips and keeper so far back and often losing sight of the ball. I didn't even see the blue that you did.
      Looking at the UA-cam videos of the 74/75 Ashes Tests I'm amazed at how green the pitches are, and Dad's Army was facing that pair with no helmets etc. Wow!

    • @rhodawg666
      @rhodawg666 9 місяців тому +5

      lol 109 no you can take footage of all his deliveries . the measure the time and pitch distance .they normally between 143 to 155 theres a few closer to 160 but yer find the fastests ball in footage you can and meausure it. he never ever ever ever bowled over 165 with any test or fottage let alone his claims of 180. and the tv out of hand is aq mesurement that doesnt exists the gun is 3/4ths down the track on both side. and caculate the speed to which it will reach batsman. you cant get out of hand speed as it would read the arm hand body batsman walking out of crease another thompson myth.

    • @terryallen5328
      @terryallen5328 9 місяців тому +2

      @@rhodawg666 opinions differ.

    • @rhodawg666
      @rhodawg666 9 місяців тому +2

      Ok? It's maths . The quickest delivery for example in this videos the almost black and white one . At 32 33 seconds . I've checked that one before it's between 155 to 160 at its fastest estimate. It's how fast the ball travels between frams after leaves hands and reaches batsmen crease. There no delivery here that's is over thst... please provide one. It's maths not opinions

    • @mastersplinter1950
      @mastersplinter1950 9 місяців тому +2

      @@rhodawg666 So are u talking about an average speed of 155-160?

  • @BobHutton
    @BobHutton 10 місяців тому +12

    There was a view that batsmen (particularly lower order batsmen) feared Thomson more than Lillee because he seemed to have less control. You just never knew where the ball was going to go.

    • @alaricgoldkuhl155
      @alaricgoldkuhl155 8 місяців тому +2

      Botham famously said "Lillee was likely to get you out, but Thommo would knock you out."

  • @Faazthetruthseeker
    @Faazthetruthseeker 10 місяців тому +7

    I feel so respectful and great towards the tail end batsman who faced him even without helmet. Today's batsman will take all the safe guards to face even a medium pacer.

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 9 місяців тому

      I don't agree that "respect" for people who wanted to play "head the Thommo bouncer" is the right word. Fool comes to mind :)

  • @ranjitvedajna4705
    @ranjitvedajna4705 9 місяців тому +5

    His bowling action was the best & the smartest action that I have ever seen.

  • @Chapps1941
    @Chapps1941 9 місяців тому +7

    No bowler has won a series like Thommo did against the Poms in 1974/5. And what he did to the Windies in 1975/6 caused Lloyd to unleash fury on the cricket world that lasted at least 15 years
    Thommo was cruelled by that shoulder injury. His two years before that were the fastest anyone has bowled.

  • @jahno7154
    @jahno7154 10 місяців тому +3

    Great compilation and some lovely quotes from some great cricketers well done my friend Absolutely terrifying to watch let alone face

  • @NEETPMT
    @NEETPMT 10 місяців тому +36

    He is the quickest ever !!!

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  10 місяців тому +3

      Yesss

    • @garywarner9388
      @garywarner9388 10 місяців тому +4

      His run fast but his ball delivery wasn't deadly like west indies quicks

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 10 місяців тому +5

      @@garywarner9388His run up was not fast he trotted in and he bowled at 100mph What the hell are you talking about haven't you heard any Vivian Richards interviews ?

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 9 місяців тому +1

      Slingshot action was hard to predict

    • @mikespenceTHEGOATB
      @mikespenceTHEGOATB 9 місяців тому +3

      HOLDING! WAS! QUICKER! BECAUSE! HE! HAD! A! BETTER! BOWLING! ACTION! THOMPSONS! BOWLING! ACTION! LIKE! THE! OTHER! BOWLERS! OF! HIS! TIME! WAS! SUSPICIOUS! A! THROWER! HA! HA! HA!

  • @geoffreypayne6867
    @geoffreypayne6867 9 місяців тому +5

    He had two years at the top but never was the same after his injury in 76/77.

  • @petercorbett3794
    @petercorbett3794 5 місяців тому +2

    I saw Thomson, live, on the spot. I watched him from behind bowler’s arm, side-on, and up close in the nets. Close up I couldn’t track the ball physically. It made this whizzing noise, though. Quickest I ever saw. I’ve seen a few. Rarely mentioned, Bob Willis was extremely quick when his blood was up, his quick ones made that fizzing noise through the air. I saw Thomson bowl a short one from side on, batter got out the way, the ball climbed over the keeper and didn’t come to ground til it hit the sight screen about half a second later.

  • @firemission1477
    @firemission1477 9 місяців тому +3

    Used to live on Melton Road in Nundah and watch him bowl on the cricket ground across the road from my front verandah.

  • @melthoidserendipity1332
    @melthoidserendipity1332 9 місяців тому +4

    He wasn't just the quickest. He was the most dangerous. The ball that got Lawrence Rowe in the Melbourne test in 75 was so typical. At the throat off a good length. There were some ordinary techniques from batsmen in these clips but they were facing him without a lot of the padding they wear now, no helmets, bats that were less powerful and boundaries that weren't roped in. Anyone with a test average of over 50 during this era was a genius. Speaking of which, how good was Rod Marsh keeping to any types of bowler. He didn't get to wear baseball type gloves like Healy and those after him.

  • @stephenhosking7384
    @stephenhosking7384 10 місяців тому +2

    I started watching test cricket in the 1974/5 Ashes, and then the following summer in the WI tour. Most commentators reckon Thomson against the WI as even faster and more dangerous than against England.
    It's hard to imagine, but he did make Lillee (also at his peak) look like the bowler the batsmen would rather face.
    Some batsmen from those tours described the main problems with Thomson being that: 1, he would deliver a particularly fast ball with no sign in the run-up or action, and that, 2, they couldn't read the length, because of his slinging action. He delivered plenty of "rubbish", but it was the thunderbolts which caused the fear and havoc.
    I vividly recall one ball against Lawrence Rowe which I saw "live" and haven't seen in the TV vaults - a ball which went outside the outside edge to the wicket keeper, and Rowe was still playing his defensive shot after the ball had gone cannoned past. The fastest ball I've ever seen, and maybe one of those "180mph" deliveries which Rod Marsh described.

  • @markuswilmes3694
    @markuswilmes3694 10 місяців тому +9

    Great bowler great human

  • @Warpedsmac
    @Warpedsmac 4 місяці тому +2

    I saw him bowl at the SCG in 1977 v Pakistan. Rod Marsh stood closer to the boundary than the stumps. One could not see the ball thru the air from side on. That impressed a 10 year old cricketer.

  • @preachyourstory3452
    @preachyourstory3452 2 місяці тому +2

    I recall the late, great Richie Benaud - who saw plenty of Thommo - once saying he thought Frank Tyson (mid-1950s) was the fastest bowler he ever saw. Or maybe Tyson was the fastest Benaud ever faced...

  • @faisalshabbir408
    @faisalshabbir408 10 місяців тому +3

    Geof thomsan what a marvelous and intimidating fast bowler and a great sight to watch

  • @Tully_23_32
    @Tully_23_32 9 місяців тому +3

    Great vid mate! Just subbed & will now marathon all ya.
    Take care from the Great Southern Land 🇦🇺

  • @paulflanagan7739
    @paulflanagan7739 9 місяців тому +2

    Thomo played for Bankstown in Sydney Grade cricket. Their other fast bowler was Lenny Pascoe. What a combo for club cricket pretty sure nobody fancied playing them on suburban pitches.

  • @simonround2439
    @simonround2439 6 місяців тому +1

    I watched him bowl in the nets at Lord's. I was standing behind the batsman and he was bowling at maybe 80 per cent of max pace. The speed of the ball was frightening.

  • @kaiberberich1
    @kaiberberich1 Місяць тому +2

    Funny thing about Thommo's bowling was... absolutely NOBODY had any clue where the next delivery was heading... including .. often .. Thommo !!!

  • @AndrewLane-pm2ro
    @AndrewLane-pm2ro 9 місяців тому +2

    Retiring hurt after getting hit by a Thommo delivery was effectively taking a wicket.
    Bowling against a county side in England, he literally sent three batsmen to hospital in the same innings.

  • @andrewksadventures
    @andrewksadventures 10 місяців тому +4

    Nice compilation buddy. 👌

  • @TrascyJaac
    @TrascyJaac 9 місяців тому +2

    Can't believe those guys were facing him without a helmet; ridiculously dangerous!

  • @mastersplinter1950
    @mastersplinter1950 9 місяців тому +4

    if you haven't seen Thommo bowl a 6 byes at the WACA you haven't lived. 😁 nice video mate

  • @RichardHayhoe
    @RichardHayhoe 6 місяців тому +1

    I think that great batters averages should be viewed on the era they performed. Imagine walking out to face that with a thin plastic box, cane pads, 2 winter mittens and a thoroughly protective woolen cap. Oh, and no bouncer restrictions.

  • @michaelparadisis4076
    @michaelparadisis4076 10 місяців тому +3

    Thomo was my original hero when I was boy.

  • @nickmannion3879
    @nickmannion3879 10 місяців тому +1

    I am old enough to have seen him in his pomp.
    I believe as a teenager he was a State/National javelin thrower and if you look at his action and think of that 'sling shot' type release, maybe that gave him those extra few yards of pace.

  • @NaheemBasit-rc9cv
    @NaheemBasit-rc9cv 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks bro ❤❤

  • @Jasper9000-wd5sm
    @Jasper9000-wd5sm 3 місяці тому +2

    And yet he was only that scary fast in this Ashes series and the following summer against West Indies, have a look at him after his shoulder injury, he looks at least 15kmh slower against India in 1977-78, yet he was still very effective in 1977 and 1978 and got plenty of wickets. But without Lillee at the other end he didnt get much support. After 1978 his career was patchy, other than a couple of brief successful comebacks from 1981 to 1983 he struggled at the end of his career. England batsman destroyed him in the 1985 Ashes.

  • @shantaghosh5928
    @shantaghosh5928 10 місяців тому +16

    Thomson described as Thommo. And the sound " Thommo" was enough for a batsman.

  • @jimmartin9704
    @jimmartin9704 10 місяців тому +9

    He was the fastest by a long way. When they clocked him at 160kph it was at the batsmen wicket, not out of his hands like today. They say Australia success again the West Indies in 1975 is what made them use so successfully for 15 years after with there pace attack

    • @craigrodgers9693
      @craigrodgers9693 10 місяців тому +3

      Sorry, that is completely incorrect.
      The 160km/HR deliveries were taken at Perth in 75 and calculated OUT OF HAND.All explained in a chapter in Lillee's book "the art of cricket".
      Do not believe the bull crap mostly spread mostly by Thommo on UA-cam

    • @petepierre6458
      @petepierre6458 10 місяців тому +2

      @@craigrodgers9693 While that is correct, plenty of his team mates, Marsh, Ian Chappell, Walters all stated he bowled much faster on other occasions, with Ian Chappell & Marsh suggesting it was closer to 175.
      I saw Thommo in 2 tests against England & the WI before he had his shoulder injury & Marsh was standing back at least 30 metres, a good 6 to 7 metres further back than Derryck Murray stood against Holding & Roberts & where he stood to Lillee (against England as Lillee didn't play the Sydney test against the Windies).
      I would have loved to have seen what the speed gun would have shown for him at that time.
      It's all speculation but having seen him live, along with every other quick bowler who played in Sydney since that time, he stood out by far as being quickest than anyone else I've seen.

    • @craigrodgers9693
      @craigrodgers9693 10 місяців тому +2

      @@petepierre6458 no doubt Thomson was as quick as anyone.
      But you have to think about what you are saying. Someone 50 years ago was supposedly bowling 15km/HR faster than anyone else....in NO other sport EVER has that sort of regression been seen.

    • @petepierre6458
      @petepierre6458 10 місяців тому +2

      @@craigrodgers9693 I'm only saying what his fellow teammates said & I also saw, first hand, how much further back Marsh was standing compared to where he was with Lillee & Murray was with Holding & Roberts.
      His action was also unusual, almost a javelin thrower's actin.
      When Sergey Bubka was setting pole vault records all those years ago, his attempts were considerably more than 15% from his nearest competitors & he was holding back as his sponsors were giving him incentives every time he broke his own world record, so he would only attempt the new record 1 or 2 cm each time.
      Although I played grade cricket in Sydney after he moved to Qld, every team used to share how quick he was & how often he would hit the sight screens on the first bounce!
      Some grounds weren't too large but still, I have never seen anyone else even come close to doing that.

    • @craigrodgers9693
      @craigrodgers9693 10 місяців тому

      @@petepierre6458 Bubka was certainly better than his compatriots. But his records are not standing TODAY. That is the point. Athletic performance does not get worse....
      I am afraid I take tales a little lightly as regards fast bowlers. Tall tales have been told ever since Spofforth supposedly bowled Grace with his first ball in the nets (despite being in a different state).
      I find it incredible, for instance, that Thompson half volleyed the sightscreen TWICE according to himself in a test match,yet no film exists.
      Again, I agree. Thomson was very quick. Certainly up there with Akhtar, Lee etc. But almost 10 mile an hour quicker?? Really? Watch Akhtar fast spell to Pointing on UA-cam and really tell me you think Thomson was quicker by the same amount that Lee was quicker than Stuart Broad....

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 4 місяці тому +1

    It wasn't just Thompson's speed that made him dangerous to face, it was the unpredictability of his bowling. With his 'sling shot' action and delivery from wide of the crease, he never had complete control over where the ball was going. Batsmen don't like that. It's hard to get comfortable or into a groove.

  • @hallmitchell
    @hallmitchell 9 місяців тому

    What hurt Jeff's career was shoulder injuries to that legendary right shoulder. One was a collision with Allan Turner in a test against Pakistan and another when he was playing tennis on a day off. Maybe hit those level of speeds a handful of times post that mid seventies prime.

  • @tepid1903
    @tepid1903 6 місяців тому +1

    0:41 was lethal, but quite a bit of help from a fast bouncy pitch.

  • @cloudattack3279
    @cloudattack3279 10 місяців тому +2

    Interesting that his unique bowling style hasnt been replicated at the highest level of the game. Makes him stand out even more as the prime opening paceman he was.

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  10 місяців тому

      Yesss

    • @saganspirit
      @saganspirit 9 місяців тому

      Some bowlers have used that type of action - Shaun Tait, Shoaib Akhtar and Malinga to a lesser extent but it has awful toll on the delivery shoulder/side

    • @SimonFranck100
      @SimonFranck100 9 місяців тому

      @@saganspirit malinga surely, tait a little bit, but akhtar not all

  • @RoyBennett-dz2cq
    @RoyBennett-dz2cq 5 місяців тому +1

    He should have played in the 1984tour against the west Indies both the tour and home tests..I had the opportunity to speak to him as a 16 year old at a cricket camp at the Uni of n.s.w. it was 1983 and he wasn't playing at home so he devoted his time as a guest coach for a day amongst other club,NSW,and former test players like Doug waters.he threw balls at us ,had us running around,and he bowled in the nets but at a reduced pace .he tolerated our questions .I was gobsmacked, for when the nets were cleared of us kids..he really wound up the ball a mere blue .it was sad to see his career end how it did in England being smashed around .there was a time when the English men would ward of balls that jumped at your throat like a viper,and speed that made the ball hit your bat.200 wickets don't do justice for his reputation that even now follows him

  • @TaeeshNENE
    @TaeeshNENE 4 місяці тому +1

    In the minds of the batsmen of the 70s decade, Thommo and Lillie must like the lions of Tsavo.
    THE GHOST AND THE DARKNESS.

  • @doctormarazanvose4373
    @doctormarazanvose4373 10 місяців тому +1

    2:16 That was David Lloyd. His box shattered and he was pulling pieces of plastic out of himself in the dressing room.

  • @daisychainsmusicpublishing4789
    @daisychainsmusicpublishing4789 10 місяців тому +6

    best bowling action ever imo

    • @mikespenceTHEGOATB
      @mikespenceTHEGOATB 9 місяців тому +1

      WRONG! THE! BEST! (BOWLING)! ACTION! IS! HOLDING! THE! ROLLS! ROYCE! OF! FAST! BOWLERS! THE! (QUICKEST)! BOWLER! AS! (WELL)! THOMMO! BOWLED! LIKE! A! TANK! WITH! A! SUSPICIOUS! BOWLING! ACTION! A! THROWER! HA! HA! HA!

    • @teclarns
      @teclarns 7 місяців тому

      @@mikespenceTHEGOATB Jeff Thompson's arm was straight through his action. What's suspicious about that? Get it right.

  • @krishSavarna-ud8qo
    @krishSavarna-ud8qo Місяць тому +1

    The West Indies fast bowlers of late 70's and early 80's might be the fastest of all time. The results and impact, they had made against stronger teams, overcoming pitch conditions and climatic barriers were unmatched in cricket history. Andy Roberts, Michael Holding, Sylvester clarke, collin Croft, Wayne Daniel and Malcolm Marshall, among others had proved it, even in the slow pitches of India and Pakistan., that too, without using reverse swing.Others, including Jeff Thomson had always struggled in slow pitches. Even in 1975, when he was at his fastest, Jeff Thomson failed miserably in England. He always failed against Pakistan., both at home and in Pakistan. Dennis Lilee and all other bowlers, except perhaps Richard Hadlee, generally struggled in Asia, while West indians thrived and conquered, everywhere.

  • @mr_pizza3910
    @mr_pizza3910 9 місяців тому +1

    he was the fastest ever because back then they measured the speed of the when it got to the batsmen rather then out of the hand

  • @gauravjha8938
    @gauravjha8938 10 місяців тому

    Unreal!!

  • @BarkerT
    @BarkerT 9 місяців тому +1

    Jeff Thomson, the quintessential Aussie, was the reason Tony Grieg invented the helmet.

  • @gautaml6891
    @gautaml6891 10 місяців тому +5

    He remainds me of Shaun Tait.

  • @Qaziharoon
    @Qaziharoon 21 день тому +1

    Jeff Thompson :- do you want to break my record
    shoaib akhtar :- yes honey

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 9 місяців тому +1

    He had a shoulder op early in his career too

  • @Ajayk9099
    @Ajayk9099 10 місяців тому +1

    The fastest bowler of all time.

  • @mudgut69
    @mudgut69 9 місяців тому +1

    The equipment used to clock Thommo was really primitive. His true top speed was over 170. That’s incredibly fast and super scary.

    • @fruitopia6798
      @fruitopia6798 9 місяців тому

      They had the technology back then to measure the distance between earth and the moon to within a few inches, any improvement in accuracy since then is only a few thousandths of a percent

    • @mudgut69
      @mudgut69 9 місяців тому

      @@fruitopia6798 umm, yeah but they weren’t using that. They were using a primitive speed gun which was subsequently found to be inaccurate.

    • @subtyrant
      @subtyrant 8 місяців тому

      ​@@mudgut69"they" were sports scientists from UWA and they used highly accurate high speed cine cameras to measure him in 1975 and 1979

  • @hedonismunderstands2469
    @hedonismunderstands2469 9 місяців тому +1

    'if history ever looks back into the past' - um, kind of what history is...

  • @KamranAli-mo9bw
    @KamranAli-mo9bw 4 місяці тому +1

    He bowled a beamer to a batman aimed at the neck however the batter managed to stop that with the bat. A slight mistake and he would have been dead i think the batsman was mohsin hassan khan of Pakistan

  • @hallmitchell
    @hallmitchell 9 місяців тому

    Kim Hughes was saying it's likely that in his prime his peak deliveries would of been hitting around 170km/hr. Richie Benaud who saw Frank Tyson and Jeff Thomson said that Frank was the fastest through the air. Jeff was the fastest off the pitch.

    • @yadukrishnanvs7283
      @yadukrishnanvs7283 9 місяців тому

      Frank Tyson had a load up similar to that of Shane Bond, arching back like a coiled spring before letting it rip.

  • @rossprentice4975
    @rossprentice4975 9 місяців тому +1

    Saw him demolish England at the Gabba, no one faster

  • @sentimentalbloke185
    @sentimentalbloke185 9 місяців тому

    The fastest of them all, consistently. This was due to his unique action & his exceptional suppleness of limb, he was very athletic & naturally fit. Richie Benaud thought the only bowler who could match him for consistent pace was Frank Tyson.

  • @TRUMP20Z4
    @TRUMP20Z4 9 місяців тому +12

    Hey ALL YOU COUCH PROs...... all the PLAYERS say thommo was the quickest EVER!!! Just accept it FFS. He bowled 165ks plus in his prime 100% 180.... NO

    • @sidharthkumar5159
      @sidharthkumar5159 6 місяців тому +3

      Did he bowl to Tendulakar ? Would have been a great battle . No guesses who’d have won 😉

    • @TRUMP20Z4
      @TRUMP20Z4 6 місяців тому +2

      @@sidharthkumar5159 of course not silly, decade of time seperation

    • @sidharthkumar5159
      @sidharthkumar5159 6 місяців тому +2

      I am a great great fan of Aussie cricket player producing system .. one after another great players with amazing regularity . But my all time favorite is McGrath .. awesome accuracy and control

    • @TRUMP20Z4
      @TRUMP20Z4 6 місяців тому +2

      @@sidharthkumar5159 thanks mate, our domestic comp is a good reason why.

    • @davifdavid4347
      @davifdavid4347 3 місяці тому

      No,not everyone thought he was the quickest! And that's because he wasn't.

  • @odetteswann7694
    @odetteswann7694 5 місяців тому +1

    Today, batsmen can ramp the quickest bowlers... if they tried it against Thommo back then, they'd barely have moved by the time the ball slammed into them!

  • @chakra7562
    @chakra7562 9 місяців тому

    Those bowler's in old times.. on bouncy pitches where dangerous because of batsmans that time have no proper protection gear's to bat freely.

  • @barbraabsalom4531
    @barbraabsalom4531 10 місяців тому +3

    Back then , no helmets , you better learn to duck real quick ! , no helmet against Thommo , no thanks.

  • @ztheletter5296
    @ztheletter5296 9 місяців тому +1

    It was "If Lillie don't get you, Thommo must"

  • @batmandestroys1978
    @batmandestroys1978 9 місяців тому +1

    The ball at 0.43 is fast!

  • @gabrielmicheal413
    @gabrielmicheal413 10 місяців тому +6

    Jeff thomson comes in bowls to Amiss a bouncer goes over the batsmens head, over rod marshes head keeps going and flying crashes into the site screen on the full, wow, that's what lm talking about
    Mind you before the big injury he had, only timmed twice and 160 kms both times
    Would have been going between 160 to 170 at times

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed

    • @kevingatebridge3656
      @kevingatebridge3656 10 місяців тому +2

      There's really no footage of that delivery...is just a myth

    • @gabrielmicheal413
      @gabrielmicheal413 10 місяців тому +4

      I saw thomo back then, it's just unfortunate that he wasn't timed every ball
      I have no doubt he was approaching speeds of 160+ true fact
      People who are negative on these comments don't know, they were not around back in the day ,
      They Just don't understand

    • @BatMan-oe2gh
      @BatMan-oe2gh 10 місяців тому

      @@kevingatebridge3656 I watched many tests when Thommo played. The keeper and slips moved up about 15 yards when Lillee bowled. And many times, Marsh was jumping high and reaching to try and get the ball. And that was of a ball just short of a length.

    • @kevingatebridge3656
      @kevingatebridge3656 10 місяців тому

      @@BatMan-oe2gh yes...but nothing ever went over rod and went crashing into the sidescreen on the full....show me a footage....otherwise it's pure bullshit

  • @PlatoCave
    @PlatoCave 10 місяців тому +1

    Probably the only genuine, very stylish and truly fast bowler in cricket history. His hard-to-follow action alone had enough charm to impress the cricket lovers.

  • @milnez
    @milnez 10 місяців тому +1

    He clocked 160 at the end of his career…

  • @hbt253
    @hbt253 10 місяців тому +2

    Had he ever visited India for any test series??

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  9 місяців тому

      i dont think so

    • @hbt253
      @hbt253 9 місяців тому +1

      @@CricketStories007 ye sab nam ke great bowlers hai jo India tour ke waqt injured ho jate the ya nahi khelte the taki speen friendly pitches pe ye exposed na ho jaye.
      Jaise batsmen ka performance out of Asia performance pe anka jata hai waise hi in great bowlers ka performance Indian soil pe anka jana chahiye.
      Recent years me maine sirf McGrath and Stayen ko hi Bharat me achchha karte dekha hai. Muje yad hai late 90s ke WI ke India tour pe great Ambrose injured hoke nahi aye the sirf Walsh aye the captain banke.
      Jab Kapil ne Sir Richard Hadley ka record toda to English patrakar kahene lage ki Kapil itne jyada test khela aur 27 ki average se wicket liye jabki Kiwi allrounder jabardast the. Tab swayam Hadley ne kaha tha " But Keps has taken more than half of the wickets on Indian dead pitches" wo jante the there was nothing for fast bowlers on Indian dead pitches.
      Us hisab se Kapil aur bad me Srinath great hai jo apne daur me akele in pitches pe junzte rahe aur safal bhi rahe.

  • @rajeevshandillya8438
    @rajeevshandillya8438 9 місяців тому

    Jeff Thomson is the fastest bowler in the history of Cricket!!

  • @krishSavarna-ud8qo
    @krishSavarna-ud8qo Місяць тому +1

    When some Australian players like Ryan Harris and Doug Bollinger were young and charging in, he bowled around 130kmph., later when he looked burly and unfit., he clocked 150 kmph, how?. Is there any magic potion available in Australia.Shaun Tait and Mitchell Starc., generally bowls in the 140ട. How can someone bowls very fast for a single delivery. Few others., Ryan Harris, Ben Hilfenhaus and Doug Bollinger., all Australian s, who were medium pacers, when they were young and raring to go, later on, when they become burly and aged, unexpectedly, started to bowl quick., magical isn't it

  • @RichardHayhoe
    @RichardHayhoe 6 місяців тому +1

    Christ, he was sharp though. Definitely the quickest ever. Total side on action. Only Shoaib has come close...

    • @longjohn5322
      @longjohn5322 2 місяці тому

      Only Shoaib has come close to what??

  • @nikhilhembrom8952
    @nikhilhembrom8952 6 місяців тому +2

    If jeff thompson were playing today batsmen will surely have tough time

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  6 місяців тому

      Exactly 💯

    • @relevantbrother8964
      @relevantbrother8964 3 місяці тому

      He averaged 28 with the ball in an era of quicker pitches, poor tailend batting and poor protective equipment.

  • @relevantbrother8964
    @relevantbrother8964 3 місяці тому

    He wasnt quick in his first UK Ashes series.probably fast medium by modern standards. In the 1979 pace competition he averaged around 140km..
    Probably touched 160 a few times in his earlier career prior to injury and was one of the scariest quicks prior to Sylvester Clarke.

  • @arshan52
    @arshan52 10 місяців тому +1

    His bowl action look likes Shoaib Akhtar copied his action of slinging bowl.

  • @tehseenullah8728
    @tehseenullah8728 9 місяців тому

    I think jeff thomson was the quickest ever

  • @stevetarrant3898
    @stevetarrant3898 9 місяців тому +1

    He was ok

  • @Dogwash
    @Dogwash 9 місяців тому +1

    Don't forget, they didn't have helmets in those days either.

  • @agro-valleyfarm7217
    @agro-valleyfarm7217 9 місяців тому +2

    He was destroyed by Viv Richards.

    • @mikesuahtla9826
      @mikesuahtla9826 2 місяці тому

      Not in the 75/76 series. Only after he busted his shoulder and remember Thomson never played World Series cricket until they amalgamated. Thomson wax well passed his best by then

  • @nickvegas2459
    @nickvegas2459 9 місяців тому +1

    So many stories, yet i reckon he bowled 160kmh

  • @matthewtaylor7355
    @matthewtaylor7355 6 місяців тому +1

    Tommo was actually just that bit slower than Typhoon Tyson...... Kalashnikov has not been bettered and neither has Shakespeare...

  • @chiragdash
    @chiragdash 2 дні тому

    Action reminds about our Jasprit Bumrah

  • @Ames-gn9iw
    @Ames-gn9iw 9 місяців тому +2

    Tommo the fastest ever

  • @richardwarren4830
    @richardwarren4830 9 місяців тому

    He was certainly very quick but how effective was he? Traditionally bowlers effectiveness is assessed by their averages. On this basis Thompson doesn’t even make into the top 100 of test bowlers.

    • @jonrichardson8461
      @jonrichardson8461 9 місяців тому

      He wasn’t as quick after he injured his shoulder in late 1976. His peak was 1974-78 when he took 139 wickets in 29 Tests at an average of 24. Wasn’t as good in the early 80s after World Series Cricket.

  • @saranyanv4615
    @saranyanv4615 12 днів тому +1

    It seems the script is mostly copied from Wikipedia. Aslo it is obvious that you are not talking but reading from a script. Try to talk naturally.

  • @immaturityComplex-mv9fj
    @immaturityComplex-mv9fj 10 місяців тому +1

    is that throwing?

    • @CricketStories007
      @CricketStories007  10 місяців тому +1

      Nope, action similar to shaun tait

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 10 місяців тому +1

      Watch Shoaib Akhtar bowl then you'll see throwing.

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 10 місяців тому

      @@CricketStories007 Really ?

  • @richardgrant418
    @richardgrant418 9 місяців тому +1

    The fastest. But he didn’t take the most wickets
    I know which of those I’d prefer to have in my team

    • @trevorpayne9671
      @trevorpayne9671 9 місяців тому

      Remember, Tony Greig said Lillee got more wickets because the batsmen were trying to make up for cringing before Tommo. So they played more strokes and therefore got out. Tommo scared them like hell. Who wouldn't be. Numerous times watching him I could not see the ball, if side on, till near the stumps.

    • @savageduck4487
      @savageduck4487 3 місяці тому

      Fast Bowlers hunt in packs.
      You would be out to the guy at the other end.

  • @ClarkKent71
    @ClarkKent71 9 місяців тому

    No helmets. No forearm guards. Ordinary gloves and pads.

  • @timb8095
    @timb8095 9 місяців тому +1

    Not a helmet in sight, seems mad now

  • @zafarmunshi328
    @zafarmunshi328 9 місяців тому +1

    In England he was called Tho
    In Australia he was. Thommo
    In India he was called. Thomesh
    And the Rest he was Thom

  • @petelewisNZ
    @petelewisNZ 9 місяців тому +1

    I've seen a interview with him and he said he bowled at 175kph....I very much doubt that Thommo 🤔

  • @prihnt1233
    @prihnt1233 10 місяців тому +1

    His action seems like chucking

  • @krishSavarna-ud8qo
    @krishSavarna-ud8qo Місяць тому +1

    Jeff Thomson may not be the quickest. He struggled on slow pitches right through his career. And once, the West indians took over., he got the lesson of his life, for sledging and abusing the opposition. Jeff Thomson was the most expensive bowler of his generation, with an economy of 4.56 runs per over., even tail enders used to to tonk him for big sixes

  • @alaypatel6050
    @alaypatel6050 10 місяців тому +1

    Very strange bowling action though. Ofcourse aussie umpires did not gave him chucker like they did with muralidharan.

    • @longjohn5322
      @longjohn5322 10 місяців тому +2

      Bowlers with a slinging action are more often the most unlikely chuckers because their elbow moves into an extended position much earlier.

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 10 місяців тому +2

      That's because he never chucked.

    • @ZillianZilch
      @ZillianZilch 9 місяців тому

      That’s because he didn’t chuck it, unlike Muralitharan. Don’t you think it’s strange that nobody ever says Muralitharan was as good as Shane Warne, even though he has more wickets at a better average and a better strike rate? It’s because Shane Warne bowled properly and Muralitharan didn’t. His records should be struck from the game.

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 9 місяців тому

      @@ZillianZilch Muralitharan didn't chuck he had a deformed arm that gave him the illusion of throwing .He didn't get the praise of Shane Warne because his strange arm gave him an advantage of getting a lot of over spin on the ball whilst normal off spinners didn't have that sort of advantage.

    • @longjohn5322
      @longjohn5322 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jahno7154 He did chuck it! That’s why the authorities brought in the 15 degrees of tolerance rule, so he could keep playing.

  • @gamekid2420
    @gamekid2420 10 місяців тому +2

    The secret was the wickets and lack of batsmen protection gear
    Nothing over 145

    • @eldoroonie
      @eldoroonie 9 місяців тому

      Nothing over 145 😅😅😅 you discerned that from your couch? Consistently faster than any other bowler at the time...if he was timed properly before he destroyed his shoulder, there would be many many balls quicker than 160

    • @gamekid2420
      @gamekid2420 9 місяців тому

      @@eldoroonie u timed 160 from your couch
      That is why his 160 balls were smashed all over by batsmen without helmet and modern protection and that too on pitches which resembled barn floors
      Watch his balls , exactly 1 second from delivery to reach the bat
      Watch again and u can time it
      He would be badly smashed all over on today pitches and with the protective gear especially the T20 format
      Enough of the overestimation

    • @eldoroonie
      @eldoroonie 9 місяців тому

      @@gamekid2420 Go back to your Pokemon

  • @pacus123
    @pacus123 9 місяців тому +2

    I seriously doubt this guy ever got up to 160kph.

    • @pricey4566
      @pricey4566 9 місяців тому

      Really 😂 Watch fast bowling competition was in Australia in the 70's i think Thommo bowled 100 mph and won most accurate Bowlers from around the world were involved including Andy Roberts and Lillie

    • @gokuvegeta9500
      @gokuvegeta9500 4 місяці тому

      He was timed at 99.69 mph or 160.45 Kmph in 1975

    • @gokuvegeta9500
      @gokuvegeta9500 4 місяці тому

      ​@@pricey4566
      Nah, in that competition Thommo bowled 152 Kmph as his fastest but he hadn't played a test match for 2 months by then

    • @topendgold9284
      @topendgold9284 Місяць тому

      He was timed at 160, 3 times.Ifvevery ball he bowled was timed, instead of the few dozen that were, he would have clocked 160 many many times. How many times did Shohid, Lee and Tait clock 160? I think Brett Lee hit 160 more than any other bowler. Tomorrow would have clocked it way more than any other bowler. ​@gokuvegeta9500

    • @gokuvegeta9500
      @gokuvegeta9500 Місяць тому

      @@topendgold9284
      Brett Lee and Shoaib wasn't timed in their domestic cricket and some games played in the late 90s where they were even quicker

  • @krishSavarna-ud8qo
    @krishSavarna-ud8qo Місяць тому +1

    Sylvester Clarke and collin Croft., perfect antidotes for these ugly Australian sledgers, invented by the greatest captain in cricket history, clive Lloyd.If these gentlemen had played, in this series.,the result would have been reversed. You may have to visit Dennis Lilee, Jeff Thomson,in mortuary. Everybody knows how Sylvester Clarke take ting, particularly, after that incident in Pakistan. He was the fastest bowler of his time, and he proved it in the slow pitches of India and Pakistan. Jeff Thomson alway struggled in slow pitches. Even in 1975, when he was at his fastest, he struggled miserably in England. He always failed against Pakistan., both at home and in Pakistan. Dennis Lilee and all other Australian bowlers, generally struggled in Asia, while West indians thrived and conquered, everywhere.