All I would like to do in comment is to express my gratitude for your amazing work. Without this video I would have continued trying to cure my supposed tennis elbow for ever. You are directly responsable for me being able to climb without any pain again.The amount of work you put into this video is unbelievable. In short: Thany you very much.
17:44 I just realized as a computer scientist, that's the first time I heard "neural network" in the literal sense! Thanks for the great video as always!
I’ve had this for a year and thought I had some mechanical injury in my lumbricals or my Palmer/dorsal interossei muscles in my ring and pinky fingers. I did the treatments in the video and already see minor improvements to my pain and weakness in those areas. I appreciate every second of the 50 hours you spent making this video. If I had to go with hand pain for the rest of my life I would be terribly depressed. Thanks so much for the video :)
Thank you so much for this video. This information is priceless. I injured my index finger and lost feeling in it a while back, but after performing some neural tension exercises, I've noticed that I've been able to feel my index finger more and more with each passing day. Keep doing what you're doing man! We all appreciate you.
Fellow climbing DPT here- so great to see quality explanations really going into depth on these topics. I’ve had to explain these topics to friends and you hit all the details and then some. Ill be sharing your content to friends my man. Keep it up.
dude i think you just saved my ass, ive been struggelig with pain in all sorts of areas. the tests casued symptoms. will begin doing the non agressive treatments now :) thank you, awesome channel
this channel is truly a gem. I thought i would never have this problem but i recently compressed the ulnar nerve. It tooked me a few days to realize it was the ulnar nerve. At first i thought i was some shoulder issue...
I've been having pain in areas associated with climbers elbow but not during muscular engagement but afterwards. I've been really confused why it doesn't hurt during climbing or exercise but directly afterwards. I got a positive for a median nerve entrapment in the elbow, and one set of glides has started to reduce symptoms. Thank you so much!
Came here after leaving a comment on your latest short about Ulnar nerve entrapment. Think I've narrowed it down to my median nerve and I've got some new tools to try out, thanks!
Thanks man, this video goes straight to Finnish doctor and physiotherapist who cares me. They don't know nothing about these and i have had all of those problems two years now without climbing anymore. I have done two nerve gliding moves a year now and they where the primary key to start recover
They've been educated on these, I can say that for sure as a classically trained massage therapist from the same country. Being able to diagnose accurately without knowing your hobby's contents well is a whole other animal.
Absolute beauty of a video! So great to see other PT’s sharing their knowledge with others on UA-cam. I can tell that you put a ton of effort/work into this video, but the quality is absolutely on point!
Incredible resource, thank you SO much. Nerve issues are so uncomfortable and disconcerting. And it's hard to get climber-specific information a lot of times.
It is insane how on point your videos are compared to most other channels talking about climbing and climbing related injuries. I had ulnar nerve entrapment in the elbow some years back. Even after seeing orthopedic doctors, a neurologist and several sessions at a physical therapist I didn’t feel as informed as I do now after watching 25min of video. I spent days researching treatments on my own and I ended up massaging and stretching the tissue around my elbow plus doing nerve glides with which I was able to get rid of the symptoms. I wish I had seen this video though as it would have saved me months of stress, pain and doctors visits. This is by far the best climbing related channel and unfortunately extremely underrated.
Wow this video is exactly what I needed. The rest of the internet told me it was my ulnar nerve and gave me confusing incomplete information, but your detailed descriptions at 2:06 and exercises helped me discover it was my median nerve that I entrapped when at the climbing gym last week! Keep up these videos, very helpful!
This is the first video if yours I've watched. Initially I just thought this was interesting, but when I thought about it a little more, I realized I was having issues with this. I was having increasing tingling in my ring through thumb on my palm side, especially in the mornings. I tried the nerve flossing and the early results are noticable improvement after just one day (2 sets on each exercise for the median nerve). Thanks so much for making this video. It reached me at a perfect time. And now I am a superfan. Can't wait to tell my climbing friends about your channel.
That's awesome!! Thank you for sharing and super happy this has already benefited you! And thanks for the support and sharing with your climbing friends!
Thanks so much for this! I have been having so much fun nerding out on your channel.. this one is an issue I've been working on in my climbing. Your explanation really helps!
Thank you for the informative video. I've been climbing for just under a year and have avoided injury so far. Its nice to know what symptoms to look out for and methods to self test in future if a nerve injury happens. Love your channel, thanks again for the great content.
One tip for people with compressed nerve on their wrist is to pay attention when they are using the computer. I realized that it wasn't getting better because my wrist was always engaged when i was using the keyboard. Once i started to rest it in a neutral position it started slowly getting better.
Man can you do a video lije this but on the pelvic region for pelvic pain syndrome or post op inguinal hernia surgery pain or pudendal neuralgia. It would be greatly appreciated
Stoked my shirt is on the way!! Got a new born on the way and was hoping to still at least max hang OR 7:3 repeater 2-3x a week. Does lack of sleep correlated to injury still apply to controlled hangboarding? What kind of minimal effective dose training is feasible with new born baby lack of sleep?
Yew!! Thanks for the support with the shirt and congrats on the new born! If you keep it controlled and rest when needed and don't increase your frequency too heavily you should be OK! Try to maintain 3x/week training and if you can hit most of your normal activities at least 1x/week you shouldn't have issues maintaining most of your strength.
I was wondering if you have any recommendations for an upper trap stretch that doesn't involve stretching the neck? The neural tension in my neck (circled at 2:14) tends to be exacerbated by the one I know (Ear to shoulder) but I got some toight traps. Also thank you for this video and content! New to the channel and am blown away by how well presented everything is:]
Honestly for me I like just movement of the upper traps, sometimes shoulder rolls are super useful (gently contract the upper trap then relax them both). There are of course numerous stretches out there and sometimes it takes a little experimentation to find out which ones work best for you. Also, welcome to the channel! Stoked to have ya :)
If the Olympics was the nadir of rising popularity of climbing, hooper is the apex. So lucky to live and climb in a time when someone exists who wants to put this level of talent and education into our silly game.
Hey. Love your channel and this video! One question: I started doing the nerve gliding and I feel tingling down my arm and into my ring finger when doing the gliding and you explained I should feel nothing. What might this imply or what should I do differently? Thanks for all you do!!
loved the video, very useful! I have a question though, I stopped climbing for three weeks, but I would like to start again and try these exercises. Parallel to climbing, is it contraindicated to do some exercises such as pull-ups, pushups, and some easy weights? I mean, at least until this problem is solved
Not necessarily, it really depends on the status of your symptoms. If you're able to modify the exercise / weight / range etc and not have symptoms, that might be preferable at this time. But it's also not a bad idea to simply ween your way back into climbing and then slowly reintroduce those other exercises. That way you can see if there are any specific triggers to your symptoms as well.
@@HoopersBeta thank you very much, I'm actually doing these exercises, and hope to be able to give you some good feedback soon! Unfortunately, I don't think nerve tension is the only problem.
I have problems with ulnar nerve. I have been going to a physiotherapist for 4 times for the same reason, doing everything the therapist tells me to do, doing everything you tell me to do. Still can't get rid of the problem. Been closer to a year now.
Thanks for such an informational video! I'm pretty sure I have some sort of ulnar nerve entrapment since I testes positively to the ULTT4 (and also a bit on ULTT1). What kind of stretches or massages would you recommend for mobilising tissue around the elbow and the wrist to complement nerve gliding? I'm afraid I could worsen the condition if I do something wrong. Also, physiotherapists I visited in the past for this problem suggested me to wear wrist braces during climbing since I have loose wrists (but it did not help much), could it be detrimental to wear compressive braces since it's probably a nerve problem?
Another quick question. Is the first median nerve glide like that? Fingers moving up? Or should they be moving down like you would be stretching the median nerve... Thanks a bunch
Hi Hooper, I noticed that during the median nerve tension test the palm is facing upwards but for the glide it's facing downwards. Does this make a difference?
Hello, I fit every symptom of pronator teres syndrome but I noticed during flare ups of the nerve and muscle aches I get lumps around the pronator/median nerve area that cant be seen but can be felt. I had an ultrasound and they couldn't find any lumps but I wasnt flared up then. I cant find any cases online of anyone having 'lumps' in the muscle/under skin like this with pronator teres syndrome so im confused whether its a cause or symptom of the entrapment? Have you ever seen something like it, the pronator and forearm flexor is tight and lumpy when I have the nerve symptoms.
Great video! Do you know if neural tension can cause tight forearm mucles (along the nerves) and biceps? Or is it more likely the other way around? I've been suffering from neural tension problems on both arms for a year, with an associated chronic tightness on one of my forearms+biceps.
You're right, it can be either way. You can have tightness in the muscles entrapping the nerve, but you can also have neural tension which causes guarding / tightening of the surrounding muscles as it attempts to protect the area from further irritation. Sorry to hear you've been dealing with this for so long!
Not sure if comments still get checked. I've been doing ecentrics to rehab from tendinopathy (wrist curls and pronator eccentrics and tricep eccentrics). I can't seem to recover that last 1%. It seems like it's going pretty good but it flairs up again slightly if I try to increase the load/difficulty during weight lifting or climbing (slight ache/tightness or urge to massage areas). I get a stretching/pain sensation around my ulna nerve/pronator for pretty much all the steps on the second move (re depressing the shoulders after positioning arm). Hopefully shifting the focus from my tendons to my nerves helps heal the last bit. Should I continue with the eccentrics while doing the nerve glides?
Sorry to hear that! Honestly my advice would be to seek 1 on 1 treatment for that. You might need exercises that are a lower tier, exploration of other areas that may be causing the symptoms, and 1 to 1 feedback/advice. Whether that's with me in a consult or with a local physical therapist, that would be better than online written advice without a consult. Sorry!
Can neural tension be detected by an EMG? If not, are there other tests that can confirm this? I’m suspicious of my tibial nerve- my left calf is always super tight/stuck/dysfunctional- lots of spasms, twitching. Hard time standing in place- better when walking. Cannot do heal raises without it maxing out.
Good question! I'm definitely not a specialized in EMG work itself, so I may be wrong here, but... if the nerve is decently compressed it can reduce the signal amplitude or velocity which would be picked up on an EMG. If it is just neural tension though, and only to a mild / moderate amount, it can create the symptoms you're experiencing but without the signal interruption that an EMG would pick up on.
With pictures and nerves and nerves names showed me first and then how to nerves go to hand and figures your body later .we see and watch more understand.
Sometimes the treatment can be applied on both sides, other times you need to figure out the root cause. Is it from a central source, similar on both sides, or different, etc. Seeking help from a skilled practitioner might be pertinent.
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All I would like to do in comment is to express my gratitude for your amazing work. Without this video I would have continued trying to cure my supposed tennis elbow for ever. You are directly responsable for me being able to climb without any pain again.The amount of work you put into this video is unbelievable. In short: Thany you very much.
Woohoo! This is awesome. Thank you for sharing! So happy that you were able to solve your problem and get back to climbing :)
dude same, this dude is the best!
So much appreciation ! 💓
17:44 I just realized as a computer scientist, that's the first time I heard "neural network" in the literal sense! Thanks for the great video as always!
Haha that's fun
I’ve had this for a year and thought I had some mechanical injury in my lumbricals or my Palmer/dorsal interossei muscles in my ring and pinky fingers. I did the treatments in the video and already see minor improvements to my pain and weakness in those areas. I appreciate every second of the 50 hours you spent making this video. If I had to go with hand pain for the rest of my life I would be terribly depressed. Thanks so much for the video :)
Thanks for showing your appreciation and we are so happy that this has helped! Keep it up and wish you a great recovery.
Thank you so much for this video. This information is priceless. I injured my index finger and lost feeling in it a while back, but after performing some neural tension exercises, I've noticed that I've been able to feel my index finger more and more with each passing day. Keep doing what you're doing man! We all appreciate you.
That's awesome!! Glad to hear it's improving. Keep it up and thanks for the comment!
A complex topic well pictured, illustrated AND performed. 👍for acting and 👌
for going the extra (s)mile at 16:30 😇!
Fellow climbing DPT here- so great to see quality explanations really going into depth on these topics. I’ve had to explain these topics to friends and you hit all the details and then some. Ill be sharing your content to friends my man. Keep it up.
dude i think you just saved my ass, ive been struggelig with pain in all sorts of areas. the tests casued symptoms. will begin doing the non agressive treatments now :) thank you, awesome channel
this channel is truly a gem. I thought i would never have this problem but i recently compressed the ulnar nerve. It tooked me a few days to realize it was the ulnar nerve. At first i thought i was some shoulder issue...
These tests feel fantastic for some reason. Currently doing them on my unaffected limb.
Awesome! Yeah they can improve symptoms and neural mobility even if they aren't currently causing pain.
I've been having pain in areas associated with climbers elbow but not during muscular engagement but afterwards. I've been really confused why it doesn't hurt during climbing or exercise but directly afterwards. I got a positive for a median nerve entrapment in the elbow, and one set of glides has started to reduce symptoms. Thank you so much!
Came here after leaving a comment on your latest short about Ulnar nerve entrapment. Think I've narrowed it down to my median nerve and I've got some new tools to try out, thanks!
Thanks man, this video goes straight to Finnish doctor and physiotherapist
who cares me. They don't know nothing about these and i have had all of those problems two years now without climbing anymore. I have done two nerve gliding moves a year now and they where the primary key to start recover
They've been educated on these, I can say that for sure as a classically trained massage therapist from the same country. Being able to diagnose accurately without knowing your hobby's contents well is a whole other animal.
Absolute beauty of a video! So great to see other PT’s sharing their knowledge with others on UA-cam. I can tell that you put a ton of effort/work into this video, but the quality is absolutely on point!
Yeah, thanks man! I really appreciate this!
Our pleasure!
Thanks, that was really helpful. The 50 hours were worth it!
Thank you! Great to hear :)
Incredible resource, thank you SO much. Nerve issues are so uncomfortable and disconcerting. And it's hard to get climber-specific information a lot of times.
Yeah I agree they can be super tricky!!
Concise and easy to understand. Some of the best climbing content on UA-cam.
I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a video but needed to say thank you because these exercises helped me so much. Thank you!
Amazing! Thank you for commenting and stoked that it was helpful!
It is insane how on point your videos are compared to most other channels talking about climbing and climbing related injuries. I had ulnar nerve entrapment in the elbow some years back. Even after seeing orthopedic doctors, a neurologist and several sessions at a physical therapist I didn’t feel as informed as I do now after watching 25min of video. I spent days researching treatments on my own and I ended up massaging and stretching the tissue around my elbow plus doing nerve glides with which I was able to get rid of the symptoms. I wish I had seen this video though as it would have saved me months of stress, pain and doctors visits. This is by far the best climbing related channel and unfortunately extremely underrated.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the support :)
This is an awesome video and very helpful - and I see you've got more than 20 likes!
Glad it was helpful! Hello Brie from New Zealand!
Damn, that was awesome in so many ways. Leaving a comment for the algorythm.
You are a blessing good sir, my Body will thank you later.
Get a room!
Wow this video is exactly what I needed. The rest of the internet told me it was my ulnar nerve and gave me confusing incomplete information, but your detailed descriptions at 2:06 and exercises helped me discover it was my median nerve that I entrapped when at the climbing gym last week! Keep up these videos, very helpful!
Glad it helped!
I just had to pause already to give some thumbs up for this one... 👍👍👌👌
Much appreciated!
This is the first video if yours I've watched. Initially I just thought this was interesting, but when I thought about it a little more, I realized I was having issues with this. I was having increasing tingling in my ring through thumb on my palm side, especially in the mornings. I tried the nerve flossing and the early results are noticable improvement after just one day (2 sets on each exercise for the median nerve). Thanks so much for making this video. It reached me at a perfect time. And now I am a superfan. Can't wait to tell my climbing friends about your channel.
That's awesome!! Thank you for sharing and super happy this has already benefited you! And thanks for the support and sharing with your climbing friends!
Great topic! We were just discussing about this yesterday with my brother. Now my assumptions are put to test.
Nice! What great timing.
This chanel is so underated
Thank you so much for this video! I have been dealing with an annoying elbow + wrist + thumb pain combo which was not getting better despite resting.
Hope it helps you!
Love your channel and knowledge! Really really appreciated! Thanks a lot 🤩
Thank you so much this is exactly what I needed
Glad it helped!
Love this channel so much.
My elbows will most likely thank you later for this!!! Great videooooo :)
Thank you for being science-driven! Just subscribed, love your channel!
Welcome aboard!
Just WOW. Thanks so much for this video, amazing work. Really informative and helpful. Keep them coming!
Awesome video! Struggling with what feels like a radial nerve issues, so really looking forward to put this into use. Thanks so much!
Hope it helps you!
Thanks so much for this! I have been having so much fun nerding out on your channel.. this one is an issue I've been working on in my climbing. Your explanation really helps!
Happy to help!
Thank you for the informative video. I've been climbing for just under a year and have avoided injury so far. Its nice to know what symptoms to look out for and methods to self test in future if a nerve injury happens. Love your channel, thanks again for the great content.
You da best, Hoop!
Great content, like always. The video came exactly at the right time, having issue with the radial nerve! Thank you.
Thanks for the awesome betas!
Glad you like them!
One tip for people with compressed nerve on their wrist is to pay attention when they are using the computer. I realized that it wasn't getting better because my wrist was always engaged when i was using the keyboard. Once i started to rest it in a neutral position it started slowly getting better.
Man can you do a video lije this but on the pelvic region for pelvic pain syndrome or post op inguinal hernia surgery pain or pudendal neuralgia. It would be greatly appreciated
Great work!
Thank you for sharing!
Stoked my shirt is on the way!! Got a new born on the way and was hoping to still at least max hang OR 7:3 repeater 2-3x a week. Does lack of sleep correlated to injury still apply to controlled hangboarding? What kind of minimal effective dose training is feasible with new born baby lack of sleep?
Yew!! Thanks for the support with the shirt and congrats on the new born! If you keep it controlled and rest when needed and don't increase your frequency too heavily you should be OK! Try to maintain 3x/week training and if you can hit most of your normal activities at least 1x/week you shouldn't have issues maintaining most of your strength.
Great video! Can you do one on thoracic outlet syndrome? It would be so helpful.
Good idea! We will add it to the list :)
Thanks for this!!
Our pleasure!
Thank you for the video! What is the role of NSAIDS and or Tylenol? Helpful/harmful/etc.
Great video!
Thank you!
I was wondering if you have any recommendations for an upper trap stretch that doesn't involve stretching the neck? The neural tension in my neck (circled at 2:14) tends to be exacerbated by the one I know (Ear to shoulder) but I got some toight traps.
Also thank you for this video and content! New to the channel and am blown away by how well presented everything is:]
Honestly for me I like just movement of the upper traps, sometimes shoulder rolls are super useful (gently contract the upper trap then relax them both). There are of course numerous stretches out there and sometimes it takes a little experimentation to find out which ones work best for you.
Also, welcome to the channel! Stoked to have ya :)
If the Olympics was the nadir of rising popularity of climbing, hooper is the apex. So lucky to live and climb in a time when someone exists who wants to put this level of talent and education into our silly game.
We appreciate your comment! Thank you for the kind words of support :)
Hey. Love your channel and this video! One question: I started doing the nerve gliding and I feel tingling down my arm and into my ring finger when doing the gliding and you explained I should feel nothing. What might this imply or what should I do differently? Thanks for all you do!!
loved the video, very useful! I have a question though, I stopped climbing for three weeks, but I would like to start again and try these exercises. Parallel to climbing, is it contraindicated to do some exercises such as pull-ups, pushups, and some easy weights? I mean, at least until this problem is solved
Not necessarily, it really depends on the status of your symptoms. If you're able to modify the exercise / weight / range etc and not have symptoms, that might be preferable at this time. But it's also not a bad idea to simply ween your way back into climbing and then slowly reintroduce those other exercises. That way you can see if there are any specific triggers to your symptoms as well.
@@HoopersBeta thank you very much, I'm actually doing these exercises, and hope to be able to give you some good feedback soon! Unfortunately, I don't think nerve tension is the only problem.
Was actually looking into radial nerve issues today, unfortunately I think mine is my brachioradialis.
I have problems with ulnar nerve. I have been going to a physiotherapist for 4 times for the same reason, doing everything the therapist tells me to do, doing everything you tell me to do. Still can't get rid of the problem. Been closer to a year now.
Thanks for such an informational video!
I'm pretty sure I have some sort of ulnar nerve entrapment since I testes positively to the ULTT4 (and also a bit on ULTT1). What kind of stretches or massages would you recommend for mobilising tissue around the elbow and the wrist to complement nerve gliding? I'm afraid I could worsen the condition if I do something wrong.
Also, physiotherapists I visited in the past for this problem suggested me to wear wrist braces during climbing since I have loose wrists (but it did not help much), could it be detrimental to wear compressive braces since it's probably a nerve problem?
Another quick question. Is the first median nerve glide like that? Fingers moving up? Or should they be moving down like you would be stretching the median nerve... Thanks a bunch
Thank you!
Thank you thank you thank you thank you
You're most welcome!
Hi Hooper, I noticed that during the median nerve tension test the palm is facing upwards but for the glide it's facing downwards. Does this make a difference?
Hello, I fit every symptom of pronator teres syndrome but I noticed during flare ups of the nerve and muscle aches I get lumps around the pronator/median nerve area that cant be seen but can be felt. I had an ultrasound and they couldn't find any lumps but I wasnt flared up then. I cant find any cases online of anyone having 'lumps' in the muscle/under skin like this with pronator teres syndrome so im confused whether its a cause or symptom of the entrapment? Have you ever seen something like it, the pronator and forearm flexor is tight and lumpy when I have the nerve symptoms.
Great video! Do you know if neural tension can cause tight forearm mucles (along the nerves) and biceps? Or is it more likely the other way around? I've been suffering from neural tension problems on both arms for a year, with an associated chronic tightness on one of my forearms+biceps.
You're right, it can be either way. You can have tightness in the muscles entrapping the nerve, but you can also have neural tension which causes guarding / tightening of the surrounding muscles as it attempts to protect the area from further irritation. Sorry to hear you've been dealing with this for so long!
Killing it.
Not sure if comments still get checked.
I've been doing ecentrics to rehab from tendinopathy (wrist curls and pronator eccentrics and tricep eccentrics).
I can't seem to recover that last 1%.
It seems like it's going pretty good but it flairs up again slightly if I try to increase the load/difficulty during weight lifting or climbing (slight ache/tightness or urge to massage areas).
I get a stretching/pain sensation around my ulna nerve/pronator for pretty much all the steps on the second move (re depressing the shoulders after positioning arm).
Hopefully shifting the focus from my tendons to my nerves helps heal the last bit.
Should I continue with the eccentrics while doing the nerve glides?
can similar things happen in the lower body? Around my hip and glute area?
Yes the piriformis muscle can cause compression of the sciatic nerve.
I have severe neural tension and even the nerve gliding is causing tingling and symptoms. Is there anything you can suggest for me?
Sorry to hear that! Honestly my advice would be to seek 1 on 1 treatment for that. You might need exercises that are a lower tier, exploration of other areas that may be causing the symptoms, and 1 to 1 feedback/advice. Whether that's with me in a consult or with a local physical therapist, that would be better than online written advice without a consult. Sorry!
Can neural tension be detected by an EMG? If not, are there other tests that can confirm this? I’m suspicious of my tibial nerve- my left calf is always super tight/stuck/dysfunctional- lots of spasms, twitching. Hard time standing in place- better when walking. Cannot do heal raises without it maxing out.
Good question! I'm definitely not a specialized in EMG work itself, so I may be wrong here, but... if the nerve is decently compressed it can reduce the signal amplitude or velocity which would be picked up on an EMG. If it is just neural tension though, and only to a mild / moderate amount, it can create the symptoms you're experiencing but without the signal interruption that an EMG would pick up on.
@@HoopersBeta thanks for your reply!
With pictures and nerves and nerves names showed me first and then how to nerves go to hand and figures your body later .we see and watch more understand.
Could you make the same video but for the legs and knee? 😂
thank you so much this makes so much i thought i had golfers elbow for a while but it turns out i have this shit instead
Nice! Glad this helped elucidate the true issue!
Okay but what if I have some nerve issue in both arms?
Sometimes the treatment can be applied on both sides, other times you need to figure out the root cause. Is it from a central source, similar on both sides, or different, etc. Seeking help from a skilled practitioner might be pertinent.
Do you think, that Powerball can help?
You got on the nerves of that one person who did not like this video
Haha only 1! I'll take it 😅
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way more than 20 likes, cmon mannnn!
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Nice let's grind these nerves ,ah I mean glide.
Nerve grinding sounds so painful 😬
I have neural tension on both my median and ulnar nerves in both elbows so who knew lmao.
The more you know! :)
Swervy hair in this one.
Thank you!
Welcome!