I’m REALLY liking what you’re doing. To be honest, I wasn’t expecting much originally. But this bag is turning into something I’m totally excited about. Love the tighter expansion from 20-25 liters. I’ve purchased 3 Knackpacks so I’m familiar with and love that feature. Can’t wait for the finished product. Well done.
I like the addition of the stitched darts in the flap a lot. I personally think gray interiors are overly done/safe and would go for the second lining choice or a brighter color. And finally, if I go to Vietnam, I’m naming my motorbike Natasha (or Tasha for short). Good luck with your bag, it’s looking great!
Pumped for the next update video. I was hardcore researching bags for edc from your reviews but now this is the bag. Can’t wait for the Kickstarter. Take my money!
So awesome!!! I really excited…lining…go big, 49 is a magic number. Make it stand out, every time I watch reviews (and I watch many of them) it’s something that everyone points out 😊
Hey Aaron, great to see you made it to this point. I am also happy about the decision to go with the 20-25 liter expansion - that is perfect! I can really see myself using this bag atop a roller for long trips or alone for a shorter one. Perfect size to use as a daypack at 20L! And a horizontal luggage strap! You are killing it, and I love being able to see it being made backstage... Enjoy your trip with your baby 😁
Congrats!! 🎉🎉🎉 I'd vote brighter the better for inside fabric. Easier to find stuff, and easier to see if your bag is left open or someone else is trying to open. Cheers! 👍💜👍
Bro it is precious to see you so excited and you should be. You are not building a bag, you are building your dream. That is what should make a man happy. No matter how it will look, or how many people will like it. It is your heart and soul you put in that bag and when it's done people will carry your heart and soul with that bag anywhere they go...! Damn, I didn't know I could make such an inspiring speech. 😁 Btw, vivid, vibrant, colorful internal material.
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Love the direction the backpack is going. I hope you'll consider some small aspects but can be game changer: 1. Small zippered pocket on the back for security pouch (check out Cor Surf's design); 2. Water bottle pocket; 3. Some reflective bits on the outside (maybe the upper front flap?); 4. Rain cover in dedicated storage (maybe on the bottom?); 5. Some way to have the front zipper secure or lockable (great design so far but concerned about security). Sorry for the long wishlist, I'm always on the quest of finding that perfect pack! Congrats again on the progress!
On the lid, I like the idea of magnets to keep the lid open. The thought of opening the bag and not having to fight a flap that keeps wanting to come down bring me joy. Also, I like the cool pattern for the interior fabric. Maybe a brighter color for the highlight effect. But definitely go with a cool pattern, a unique one for the brand.
totally agree on the lid staying open - it will be tough with the lid as currently constructed, but something we are actively exploring! Good news though is that you never need to lift the lid to actually grab the stuff in the compartment - everything is accessible with the zip alone. The lid acts more for aesthetics, additional access when you (seldomly) need it, and the locking mechanism (most important feature of all - details coming soon!)
Great to see you working with Luke from Bagme. We had a few conversations with him during our early days designing products, great guy and full of knowledge. Good luck with the sample testing process and bringing it to market.
Oh dude! I can't believe the amount of work that goes into making a bag. You and the team have worked so hard - I hope you're fkn proud, mate! I'm not saying this coz I'm a fanboy (ha! I am!) but the bag looks absolutely perfect and with the expansion it can even pass the six 0,5 cans of beer test! I love the honeycomb internal lining. I'm not on social media, but once I get my hands on this bag I'll make sure to promote it as much as I can in Holland and when traveling for work! sorry for the long comment (you know me by now)... I'm just excited! Cheers, Chris W
49 internal fabric. The only thing I’d add is that a bright colour (as used in Aer) makes it easier to find things. Great design Can’t wait to get mine!
@@riccardovecchi3592 that's great feedback! I'm taking a lot of inspiration from premium car brands for this bag, so that would be perfectly in-line with the vision
This is a fantastic watch of your journey. Thanks for allowing us to share in it! I think the inner lining that is green/light grey would look great. I’d also go with #49 (honeycomb) pattern. It just looks more elegant. I like the flap idea up top with the darts to give it a more 3D look. It will look better when that pouch is full. Also - if you were being serious, I’m not all that keen on the pink polka dot lining for the lap top compartment.😬. The light green was Fyro 🔥! Looking forward to the rest of the build!
Nice to see in Vietnam where I was born. Keep it light and easy to access everything AND a sturdy waterbottle! Thanks for the update and good luck with the next step. Good you ate as much Vietnamese food as possible!
Hey hey, that final sample is looking really good. Seeing the hatch in action, I get it more, gives you either left side or right side access if you do the single shoulder swing up, and the quick lid action from the top. I always liked the waterfield air porter for its little quick access magnetic lid on its side pocket so appreciate the hatch. I like that darker interior more than the white one. its still light enough and it would be original to this brand. I do like the smaller expansion if it means its only on the top half has the zipper and it doesn't go all the way around, keeping the base the same size and standable while only the top expands I feel looks more elegant like the dayfarer and waterfield backpacks. When the zip goes all the way around its more like a "oh crap I bought too much on my trip" type of travel luggage expansion.
The function over form in me would like to see 43 interior liner, but the weird guy in my says 49. Most of the time I listen to the weird guy 😂 Great to see the fabric sample turned out great. I agree with 20 L to 25 L. Slim yet roomy enough to start the day, and 5 L is plenty enough if you suddenly need to bring back more stuff at the end of the day. And I've done a week's one bag business casual travelling in SEA with a 24 L backpack and it's more than capable, even at that time I was still learning the ropes of one bag travelling. Can't wait to see the next step! 🎉
It's so exciting to follow your journey, like cheering a friend on in a major life milestone (which this is)! The bottle holder(s) would be a dealbreaker for me, so im really hoping that you'll include it! I like a bright interior, so orange (4) for me. Also, the 5L expansion isn't too much that I'd notice it a lot in everyday carry. I would just stick with the 25L without needing to expand or zip up for a slightly flatter bag. Weight is a bigger factor for me, so I'd rather the zipper weight be used for something like a hidden passport pocket. It's your bag though, so I'll wait till the final design to see what it looks like!
Man the 43 color its the better wayfor the interior material. I'm really exited for your backpack! I have some cosiderstion: The bottom new material its enought anti scratch material? Look like the nomatic material that scratch easly 😅 Second things the new dimension are interesting: i was super exited about the 10 l of ecpansion but i understand and i agree that the new shape of your bag its better for edc and the l weekend travel, good intuition! Im alredy in doubt about the hatch (for the security feature) and i dont know how i feel about the lack of the top quick access pochet that i feel more secure 😅. Sorry for the wall of text thst i write here . And i hope that o can try and wear your backpack soon . Good luck dude cant wait to see the next email
Its feels awesome to be made to feel a part of the fyro journey and to participate in little ways possible !! For the lining I personally prefer the 43 over the 49! 49 is a bit camouflaging to the eye, if I am trying to grab something really quick from my bag. Also, brighter shades for a more adventurous segment would be great, but if the target segment is wider, then the 43 is a happy medium.. at least for me, I would be somewhat uncomfortable if I am the cause of distraction in the middle of a meeting, just bc I pulled my laptop out of a bright orange pocket 😁
Looks great. Initial feedback: front pocket looks great, but I wonder if theres a way to make it functional for both sling type and vertical.access without gear spilling out
great feedback! After using this bag extensively on my travels for 2 weeks, I can confidently say that the gear is not spilling out at all - for both slinging over the shoulder and vertical access. And I have a few ideas for making the compartment even more secure, just in case ;)
Great update! I'm def a backpack head/nerd, and I'm getting tired of the light grey interior. Although number #43 is nicer because of the pattern, I think #49 is nice (but also really like the color of #14, with the pattern of 49). Also, the main color of #49 gives me a Boundary Supply vibe, which I'm not mad at.
I also agree with you when you said that the lid isn't there yet. I think the lid looks good when the bag is semi packed out, but when the bag is empty, the lid looks really wide. I feel like for people who use the bag for their EDC won't always have the bag super packed out, and the lid will seem "off" or too wide.
Great feedback! And yea, the lid needs some work for sure, but we are working on 5 new variations as I type, so we’ll have plenty of tests to run to see what looks best. The work has only just begun! 💪🏾
I think 20L is a good size for a bag like this. I think 43 is a great looking color for the interior. I'd prefer a lighter shade green for the 49, if you choose to go that route. Looks great so far. I'm excited to see the end product. Will gladly support your business in getting your bag when it comes out.
I was researching a bag to use as my EDC for commuting to work. Watched some of your videos and I'm on the journey with you. Can't wait for Kickstarter. Bright lining, great work on the lid update.
fyroooooo lez goooooo! already saving up for these lol thanks for sharing the journey Aaron! that power outage bit is so funny, so common here in asia haha glad the sample made it in time! cant wait for the next
Definitely 49. White will be a magnet for dirt and ink spills from pens. But I would say pick a signature bright color like a bright blue with orange stitching?
I was thinking about it and didn't add to my comment on the survey but a perfect waterproof lunchbox to fit in the pack as an accessory would be 👌 ideal as a stretch goal/target for Kickstarter
For a 180-degree clamshell opening for the laptop compartment (like in the Minaal Daily), the lining colour should be 18% gray: a great help for photographers who need a white balance gray card in challenging white balance situations. Of course, people like those bright neon ones like green, yellow, orange, but can provide the gray as an option.
I believe you are still working on the water bottle holder options from what you've hinted at. One for umbrellas and one for a bottle. Maybe a small hole to allow a compact wet umbrella/leaky bottle to drip through & avoid mold buildup? Hidden pockets are a must (I'm sure you're onto it) and I prefer a completely waterproof design option for the unknown weather Love the expansion option for the most common daily/weekend capacity range
Between 43 and 49. I like 43 its brighter so easier to see stuff inside. That said I'd prefer one of the colored ones you flashed through to get to 49. My favorites are probably 14 or 3
43 would be a safe choice, if it’s the first product, lighter in Color mean more contrast from the dark, easier to search for item. Yet 49 would be cool, but probably nice in some sort of special / giveaway edition of the bag.
This is really taking shape. On the fence on the cut back to 25L. To me that sweet spot that approaches 30L can be useful. Perhaps I am an over packer? Still I love watching the way this is headed. I am not one for extreme colors in the internals-however I do like the patterning.
Solid feedback! Expansion to 30L was the original goal, but implementation wasn’t as good as the idea. 5L expansion still gives a ton of versatility though which I’m excited about :)
How about you pick the colour, material & the upgrade design.? It's your project mate. We watch almost all of your multiple vids and somehow we got this feeling the improvement that you're going to make. We feel you matey.!! Go rock the world..!!!
I would love to see cordura balistic as exterior fabric,interior propably something in the yelow/orange or light red spectrum since fyro makes me think of fire 🔥 ykk zips and duraflex hardware and it will be a dream backpack (im already in love with the design ❤)great work for you and everyone involved 👍🏼
Sooo envious of your progress! Congrats Aaron!! :) I'm still screwing around with features on my bag, once I have something less embarrassing I'd love to send you a sample! Are you thinking of different exterior colours as well? Personally I feel like a navy or grey exterior would really elevate the looks of this bag. All Black isn't really doing it for me personally.
Thanks melody! I had the community vote on the color and the overwhelming majority picked black - but I’m personally not feeling the ballistic nylon right now. We’re gonna test out some different materials and hopefully it will improve the look of the bag. Maybe other color options too, hopefully. Looking forward to seeing a sample of your bag!
Great bts video! I love seeing your excitement as you see your bag come to life. Im looking forward to ordering my own. Will you make it available for company logos? I've been looking to grab an all-purpose bag for my nonprofit.
thanks dude, the excitement is real! And yes, we are toying with ways to add company logos - probably on the top lid for ultimate sexiness ;) contact me aaron@nomadsnation.com for more info
Re color, I love 73 or 78 in your color montage, 73 that teal really pops! Maybe it's regional, but I think if you don't include a water bottle pocket or a top lockable quick pocket, you'll lose a lot of folks especially if you're not getting carry handles or using compression buckles (usual exchanges for side pocket). For the back, the trolley sleeve could have a zip at the base so it doubles as a pocket....) Several people have mentioned the name Natasha (not sure why), but my ears perked up, of course! 😂 (diff spelling tho')
thanks for the feedback! carry handles and compression buckles are things we might add later, but don't want to overcomplicate the bag too much. External water bottle holder is tough right now as the expansion really fucks with our ability to have both.... might have to decide for one over the other....
I can imagine fidlock being expensive to licence but will that magnet closure at the top of the quick access pocket in the front hold up if the bag is turned on it's side or upside down? Looks easy to undo and even a loose bottle of moisturiser may undo it. Just some feedback but keep up the great work!
after rigorously testing it for a few weeks I can say everything stays in place - even if the bag falls over. But the fidlocks are something we are still potentially considering....
I like 46 as it's different than what others are doing but I also liked 73 since no one I'm aware of is doing that color. 49 is cool too. They all allow seeing what's in the bag. I have a Knack Series 1 and I like it, but the orange is a bit much sometimes. Also like what they did with the flap. The bag you left with looks great so far. I think everything's definitely moving in the right direction.
Thanks for the feedback dude! 73 was also an interesting choice. Agreed that the orange can be a bit much sometimes. Based on these comments I think the goal is to find something fun/different/interesting, but without being TOO LOUD lol
I prefer #43 for the internal fabric. I believe it would be easier for me to spot my objects on the inside of the bag. My concert is visibility with #49.
The lighter honey comb material for the lining would suit. Its a great looking bag , my only concern is the front pocket with the zip in the middle which is a great concept for ease of use and access. However, this zip is easy for someone / thief to open it. Are you going to include some security into the zip? On another note - great web site and enjoying your journey
Thanks so much! And yes, we have a few unique ideas for security of that front zipper that will bring the whole bag to the next level. Details coming soon!
Hey Aaron love watching ever step in the process of making a backpack. I love #49 for the interior. What the thought process for attaching or storing keys in the front pocket? Are you going the magnetic route or more of a retractable zip line? Excited for the next steps in the process!
noted on 49! As for keys, I'm not sure just yet. We are going to test out a few different things - either a magnetic option, or maybe a retractable one. Maybe something simple like a leash will work best... I'll be sure to keep everyone posted on this 💪
Hi Aaron! 49 is interesting but it could be a little bit darker so it might be not easy to find stuff inside. I will go with something in contrast so 43 is my favorite choice between these 2 options. What do you thing for something orange inside? The contrast with the black outside could be awesome! Have a nice day! 😉
That 49 liner is sweet. I also like the new lid design, I think it’s moving in a good direction. Do you think after wear the top corners of the lid flap will start to sag?
My vote is for interior 49. The shape of the bag really turned out well, it looks great. I can’t see what the first actual sample looks like. I’m assuming it’s going to have one of the bottle holder options incorporated into it right?
you can see what it looks like at the end of the video. I am not showing off the bag in it's entirety on purpose because it's still a mockup - once the first sample is done, then I'll run you guys through everything. Water bottle holder = still working on it... We might have to cut it though with the addition of the 5L of expansion. There just might not be enough room to make both work. But we've got a couple more ideas, details coming soon! 😏
Just some thoughts…not a fan of the ‘hatch’ or it being held by magnets (a pickpocket’s dream!), would rather see a safer zippered hidden compartment at the top. While the vertical zipper looks cool and stylish, I’d be worried at things falling out when unzipped…would like to see a u-shaped zippered compartment that flap out with multiple internal pockets for smaller items…microfiber pocket for glasses, and mesh for cords, wallet, etc. Brightly colored lining instead of gray. Hidden zip in the straps, maybe. Adjustable placement for padded straps on the back (not just being able to lengthen or shorten) to accommodate variety of torsos. Excited to see the next version!
I’ve been traveling with this bag for 3 weeks now and the hatch is literally a dream. Everything stays perfectly in its place and is super accessible, and we have some anti-theft ideas in the works that will make this bag a pickpockets nightmare 💪🏾
Alpaka bags do have a sexy design language, so I like that you gave them a shoutout. Not sure that you reviewed any of their bags, though. Would definitely love to see your take on their products. My vote goes for that #43 fabric for the inside lining. "Crazy" can be good, but "neutral" has universal appeal for everyone. Or you could go with some red liner because red is sexy.... Also, watching you demonstrate the back pocket by swinging the bag around and pulling things out, it's making me think...does this bag NEED the flap? Maybe I'm not seeing the functional benefit. With the flap closed, it doesn't look like it's getting in the way of using that pocket, and opening the flap doesn't seem like it actually gives you enough access to that pocket without unzipping it anyway, but I dunno. Couldn't tell really. Aesthetics are always important, but functional aesthetics are something I can get behind. It definitely brings the look of the bag together, though.
I'm thinking maybe seeing you only grab things deep from the back pocket made it so that I couldn't visualize what grabbing stuff from those top internal packets would be like, cause, on second thought, I'm thinking that might be a good place for earbuds. Swing the bag around, pop open the flap, grab your buds. Or keys.
great points dude! You are totally correct that you don't need to open the lid to access The Hatch - but if you really want to get into the compartment, being able to open the lid helps to much. This way it's the best of both worlds - a quick access option, and a more open/accessible option. Plus, we are going to be adding a few features to the lid that will help take the bag as a whole to another level. More details coming soon ;)
Echo n all the comments for a nice bright interior to make things easy to find. One thought, do you think a small tab on the hatch would help in opening it? Something nice and grabby.
Great suggestion - John (our designer) wants to add something subtle like this. We'll add it in the first sample which will hopefully be ready in a month 😊
Personally, I'm not a fan of white fabric for internal lining. Yeah, it's bright, but I always get paranoid about getting dirt on it. The other one, while "funky", puts unnecessary strain on the eyes. Not sure how crucial it is in the case of backpack, but if I to choose between those two, I'd go for the monotone white one. Maybe beige - like in some Bellroy's products, and in Able Carry Max Backpack in blue and green color options.
working on it haha. right now we are in a tough spot - it doesn't look like we can have BOTH the expansion AND the external water bottle holder. We are trying to get creative to think of a solution, but this is the challenges of making a physical product - everything is a give and a take
Great feedback! We have a top handle already - it's very low key and is connected to the top of the back panel. As for the side handles, I would TOTALLY agree if this were a larger travel bag, but as an EDC/small carry on, I just don't think it's necessary. Happy to debate it though!
I appreciate the excitement of getting it closer to being done but that front ‘hatch’ is concerning. A verticals zip pocket allows everything to fall out when opened and limits the amount that can be put in it. Also, that dangling zipper just begs for a pickpocket to do his thing. Liningwise the gray is safe. Did you consider a bright blue? Just a thought.
Been using the bag for three weeks non-stop now - the hatch is amazing. And we’ve got some anti-theft features we are implementing that will take the compartment to the next level 💪🏾
I don't plan to at this point, no. But the bag will still be able to fit a few pairs of shoes no problemo, all of which can be stored in a shoe-bag or other bag
I think a more adventurous lining is WAY more appealing, so long as visibility remains a priority
100% - I think we’ll try out a few different options to see what works best
I’m REALLY liking what you’re doing. To be honest, I wasn’t expecting much originally. But this bag is turning into something I’m totally excited about. Love the tighter expansion from 20-25 liters. I’ve purchased 3 Knackpacks so I’m familiar with and love that feature. Can’t wait for the finished product. Well done.
I appreciate that! It’s a very unique bag and I’m so stoked to see where it goes moving forward
I like the addition of the stitched darts in the flap a lot. I personally think gray interiors are overly done/safe and would go for the second lining choice or a brighter color. And finally, if I go to Vietnam, I’m naming my motorbike Natasha (or Tasha for short). Good luck with your bag, it’s looking great!
Thanks so much - love the name for your bike 😂
Pumped for the next update video. I was hardcore researching bags for edc from your reviews but now this is the bag. Can’t wait for the Kickstarter. Take my money!
ha thanks so much dude! Some HUGE updates with the bag coming in the next week or so
So awesome!!! I really excited…lining…go big, 49 is a magic number. Make it stand out, every time I watch reviews (and I watch many of them) it’s something that everyone points out 😊
thanks dude! And yea, #49 is pretty sick 😎
Hey Aaron, great to see you made it to this point. I am also happy about the decision to go with the 20-25 liter expansion - that is perfect! I can really see myself using this bag atop a roller for long trips or alone for a shorter one. Perfect size to use as a daypack at 20L! And a horizontal luggage strap! You are killing it, and I love being able to see it being made backstage... Enjoy your trip with your baby 😁
totally agree - I just used the bag for 2 weeks with my roller luggage and it was freaking perfect. More updates coming soon1
Congrats!! 🎉🎉🎉 I'd vote brighter the better for inside fabric. Easier to find stuff, and easier to see if your bag is left open or someone else is trying to open. Cheers! 👍💜👍
brighter = better! I'm gonna try and find something with a copper color
@@Nomads.NationCopper sounds awesome.
@@dominikg4818 its so sick, we've got some samples coming in soon!
A copper lining sounds sick! Definitely go with a brighter lining.
@@adriancharles hell yea! We've got a few copper linings lined up, I think it's going to look fantastic
Bro it is precious to see you so excited and you should be. You are not building a bag, you are building your dream. That is what should make a man happy. No matter how it will look, or how many people will like it. It is your heart and soul you put in that bag and when it's done people will carry your heart and soul with that bag anywhere they go...!
Damn, I didn't know I could make such an inspiring speech. 😁
Btw, vivid, vibrant, colorful internal material.
thanks for the support and inspiring words my dude! huge updates coming in the next week or two with this bag
@@Nomads.Nation is there any other way to support you my brother?
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Love the direction the backpack is going. I hope you'll consider some small aspects but can be game changer: 1. Small zippered pocket on the back for security pouch (check out Cor Surf's design); 2. Water bottle pocket; 3. Some reflective bits on the outside (maybe the upper front flap?); 4. Rain cover in dedicated storage (maybe on the bottom?); 5. Some way to have the front zipper secure or lockable (great design so far but concerned about security). Sorry for the long wishlist, I'm always on the quest of finding that perfect pack! Congrats again on the progress!
Thanks and really appreciate the suggestions!
On the lid, I like the idea of magnets to keep the lid open. The thought of opening the bag and not having to fight a flap that keeps wanting to come down bring me joy. Also, I like the cool pattern for the interior fabric. Maybe a brighter color for the highlight effect. But definitely go with a cool pattern, a unique one for the brand.
totally agree on the lid staying open - it will be tough with the lid as currently constructed, but something we are actively exploring! Good news though is that you never need to lift the lid to actually grab the stuff in the compartment - everything is accessible with the zip alone. The lid acts more for aesthetics, additional access when you (seldomly) need it, and the locking mechanism (most important feature of all - details coming soon!)
Great to see you working with Luke from Bagme. We had a few conversations with him during our early days designing products, great guy and full of knowledge. Good luck with the sample testing process and bringing it to market.
Luke's the man and is so freaking knowledgable. His expertise is crucial for us making this game-changing bag
Oh dude! I can't believe the amount of work that goes into making a bag. You and the team have worked so hard - I hope you're fkn proud, mate!
I'm not saying this coz I'm a fanboy (ha! I am!) but the bag looks absolutely perfect and with the expansion it can even pass the six 0,5 cans of beer test!
I love the honeycomb internal lining.
I'm not on social media, but once I get my hands on this bag I'll make sure to promote it as much as I can in Holland and when traveling for work!
sorry for the long comment (you know me by now)... I'm just excited!
Cheers, Chris W
appreciate the support Chris - and I think this bag might actually pass the 12-pack test!!
49 internal fabric. The only thing I’d add is that a bright colour (as used in Aer) makes it easier to find things. Great design Can’t wait to get mine!
Thanks dude!
The 49 gives it a more premium look, it reminds me some kind of supercar seats
@@riccardovecchi3592 that's great feedback! I'm taking a lot of inspiration from premium car brands for this bag, so that would be perfectly in-line with the vision
This is a fantastic watch of your journey. Thanks for allowing us to share in it! I think the inner lining that is green/light grey would look great. I’d also go with #49 (honeycomb) pattern. It just looks more elegant. I like the flap idea up top with the darts to give it a more 3D look. It will look better when that pouch is full. Also - if you were being serious, I’m not all that keen on the pink polka dot lining for the lap top compartment.😬. The light green was Fyro 🔥! Looking forward to the rest of the build!
Thanks so much for following! I’ve got a bit email coming out this week with huge updates - hopefully you are on the email list too 💪🏾
Looking great! 20-25L is indeed the perfect spot. Excited for the next updates.
Appreciated dude!!
The latest sample looks fantastic where it's taking shape nicely - the form, texture and smaller details make it exciting! 🙂👌
Thanks so much - we are really getting there! (But so much more work to do 💪🏾)
Nice to see in Vietnam where I was born. Keep it light and easy to access everything AND a sturdy waterbottle! Thanks for the update and good luck with the next step. Good you ate as much Vietnamese food as possible!
Great suggestions! Headed back to Vietnam soon for the newest sample - updates coming in a few weeks! 🇻🇳
Hey hey, that final sample is looking really good. Seeing the hatch in action, I get it more, gives you either left side or right side access if you do the single shoulder swing up, and the quick lid action from the top. I always liked the waterfield air porter for its little quick access magnetic lid on its side pocket so appreciate the hatch.
I like that darker interior more than the white one. its still light enough and it would be original to this brand.
I do like the smaller expansion if it means its only on the top half has the zipper and it doesn't go all the way around, keeping the base the same size and standable while only the top expands I feel looks more elegant like the dayfarer and waterfield backpacks. When the zip goes all the way around its more like a "oh crap I bought too much on my trip" type of travel luggage expansion.
oh yea, that dual-access feels so nice, and we made the bag super slim, so all your gear in that compartment is still super easy to access
Exciting stuff Aaron! As fellow bag developers with Luke, we love seeing your process and all the ups and downs. All part of the journey ☺️
Thanks Rachel! I'd love to hear more about your brand
49! Go for the weird options always🤘
and love the organization in the front pocket.
Haha love me some weird!!
49 or pink with polka dots! Super happy for you. Great work.
Pink polka dots all day!
Looks like the best backpack ever made on Earth ✌️
We are getting there!! ❤️
The function over form in me would like to see 43 interior liner, but the weird guy in my says 49. Most of the time I listen to the weird guy 😂
Great to see the fabric sample turned out great. I agree with 20 L to 25 L. Slim yet roomy enough to start the day, and 5 L is plenty enough if you suddenly need to bring back more stuff at the end of the day. And I've done a week's one bag business casual travelling in SEA with a 24 L backpack and it's more than capable, even at that time I was still learning the ropes of one bag travelling.
Can't wait to see the next step! 🎉
Thanks my dude, and love the advice - let’s get weird! 😉
It's so exciting to follow your journey, like cheering a friend on in a major life milestone (which this is)!
The bottle holder(s) would be a dealbreaker for me, so im really hoping that you'll include it! I like a bright interior, so orange (4) for me.
Also, the 5L expansion isn't too much that I'd notice it a lot in everyday carry. I would just stick with the 25L without needing to expand or zip up for a slightly flatter bag. Weight is a bigger factor for me, so I'd rather the zipper weight be used for something like a hidden passport pocket. It's your bag though, so I'll wait till the final design to see what it looks like!
thanks for the input dude! We are working on the water bottle holder still - got a few ideas we gotta test
Awesome. You have made it so far. I like fabric 49. Very exciting.
Thanks dude! Every day getting closer
Man the 43 color its the better wayfor the interior material.
I'm really exited for your backpack!
I have some cosiderstion:
The bottom new material its enought anti scratch material? Look like the nomatic material that scratch easly 😅
Second things the new dimension are interesting: i was super exited about the 10 l of ecpansion but i understand and i agree that the new shape of your bag its better for edc and the l weekend travel, good intuition! Im alredy in doubt about the hatch (for the security feature) and i dont know how i feel about the lack of the top quick access pochet that i feel more secure 😅. Sorry for the wall of text thst i write here . And i hope that o can try and wear your backpack soon . Good luck dude cant wait to see the next email
Thanks for the feedback my dude! I’ll sell you on the hatch eventually - just wait 😜
😂 I trust in you 😜
@@fabriziogargiulo7435 🫶
Its feels awesome to be made to feel a part of the fyro journey and to participate in little ways possible !! For the lining I personally prefer the 43 over the 49! 49 is a bit camouflaging to the eye, if I am trying to grab something really quick from my bag. Also, brighter shades for a more adventurous segment would be great, but if the target segment is wider, then the 43 is a happy medium.. at least for me, I would be somewhat uncomfortable if I am the cause of distraction in the middle of a meeting, just bc I pulled my laptop out of a bright orange pocket 😁
Thanks for following the journey and great points about the lining! 🤙🏽
Looks great. Initial feedback: front pocket looks great, but I wonder if theres a way to make it functional for both sling type and vertical.access without gear spilling out
great feedback! After using this bag extensively on my travels for 2 weeks, I can confidently say that the gear is not spilling out at all - for both slinging over the shoulder and vertical access. And I have a few ideas for making the compartment even more secure, just in case ;)
Really like the idea of a bright, contrasting liner. No gray please! I'm digging the design. Looking forward to getting one!
great feedback - thanks so much!
adding couple of pen holders should be great.
we are trying to add one in The Hatch 😎
Great update! I'm def a backpack head/nerd, and I'm getting tired of the light grey interior. Although number #43 is nicer because of the pattern, I think #49 is nice (but also really like the color of #14, with the pattern of 49). Also, the main color of #49 gives me a Boundary Supply vibe, which I'm not mad at.
I also agree with you when you said that the lid isn't there yet. I think the lid looks good when the bag is semi packed out, but when the bag is empty, the lid looks really wide. I feel like for people who use the bag for their EDC won't always have the bag super packed out, and the lid will seem "off" or too wide.
Great feedback! And yea, the lid needs some work for sure, but we are working on 5 new variations as I type, so we’ll have plenty of tests to run to see what looks best. The work has only just begun! 💪🏾
I think 20L is a good size for a bag like this. I think 43 is a great looking color for the interior. I'd prefer a lighter shade green for the 49, if you choose to go that route. Looks great so far. I'm excited to see the end product. Will gladly support your business in getting your bag when it comes out.
Really appreciate the feedback and support dude! The next version of the sample is being prepped now - can’t wait to share it
I am excited bro! Goodluck!
thanks so much!
49 for the interior fabric! Something different, very cool!
It’s certainly different! We’ll have to test it out to know if it’s the right call, but I like it’s bold-ness
I was researching a bag to use as my EDC for commuting to work. Watched some of your videos and I'm on the journey with you. Can't wait for Kickstarter. Bright lining, great work on the lid update.
So stoked to have you here!!! Hopefully you are on the email list as well - big updates coming in the next week 🫶🏽
@@Nomads.Nation of course! Filled in the survey also.
@@9unks brilliant! Stoked to have you on this journey
fyroooooo lez goooooo!
already saving up for these lol
thanks for sharing the journey Aaron!
that power outage bit is so funny, so common here in asia haha glad the sample made it in time!
cant wait for the next
thanks so much Joey! The power outtage was not ideal timing lol, but the team at The Sang made the bag happen regardless - they are truly pros!
Definitely 49. White will be a magnet for dirt and ink spills from pens. But I would say pick a signature bright color like a bright blue with orange stitching?
Nice suggestion! Signature color for sure - leaning towards copper right now
I was thinking about it and didn't add to my comment on the survey but a perfect waterproof lunchbox to fit in the pack as an accessory would be 👌 ideal as a stretch goal/target for Kickstarter
It’s a great idea! A bit of a niche product, but something I do get asked every now and then
Very excited for this!
me too haha
Option 49 looks really nice. I hope you pick that one.
Thanks for the feedback!
Cant wait for the final result. Please make sure you deliver to singapore!
We will!!
For a 180-degree clamshell opening for the laptop compartment (like in the Minaal Daily), the lining colour should be 18% gray: a great help for photographers who need a white balance gray card in challenging white balance situations. Of course, people like those bright neon ones like green, yellow, orange, but can provide the gray as an option.
great suggestion!
49 choice on the fabric looks pretty nice
49 for the win!
Oh yeah sounds great
I'll never buy it cause I'm a sling and 30L user, but I'm excited for you. I'm sure this will be a banger EDC.
Thanks dude!
Congrats! Looks great! Congrats!!!
apprecaited!!
I believe you are still working on the water bottle holder options from what you've hinted at. One for umbrellas and one for a bottle. Maybe a small hole to allow a compact wet umbrella/leaky bottle to drip through & avoid mold buildup? Hidden pockets are a must (I'm sure you're onto it) and I prefer a completely waterproof design option for the unknown weather
Love the expansion option for the most common daily/weekend capacity range
great suggestions! We've got some big updates coming in the next few weeks when we finish our first real sample :D
3 and 49 were my favorite for the internal material
thanks for the feedback!
Between 43 and 49. I like 43 its brighter so easier to see stuff inside. That said I'd prefer one of the colored ones you flashed through to get to 49. My favorites are probably 14 or 3
thanks for that feedback! 14 is a good option as well
Congratulations bro! 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much 😀
43 would be a safe choice, if it’s the first product, lighter in Color mean more contrast from the dark, easier to search for item. Yet 49 would be cool, but probably nice in some sort of special / giveaway edition of the bag.
Good looks, the more options the merrier
This is really taking shape. On the fence on the cut back to 25L. To me that sweet spot that approaches 30L can be useful. Perhaps I am an over packer? Still I love watching the way this is headed. I am not one for extreme colors in the internals-however I do like the patterning.
Solid feedback! Expansion to 30L was the original goal, but implementation wasn’t as good as the idea. 5L expansion still gives a ton of versatility though which I’m excited about :)
How about you pick the colour, material & the upgrade design.? It's your project mate. We watch almost all of your multiple vids and somehow we got this feeling the improvement that you're going to make. We feel you matey.!! Go rock the world..!!!
My project for sure, but the community’s input has been so helpful (and freaking fun!) 🤠
I would love to see cordura balistic as exterior fabric,interior propably something in the yelow/orange or light red spectrum since fyro makes me think of fire 🔥 ykk zips and duraflex hardware and it will be a dream backpack (im already in love with the design ❤)great work for you and everyone involved 👍🏼
Great suggestions! We are thinking of using some sort of copper color for the interior - a bit firey but not as loud as a neon orange
Copper? 😍I'm sold😅
@@alexandermoursiotis1465 yea im stoked about it 😍
I wanna see the funky lining! Being unique and different from other companies!
we plan it!
Sooo envious of your progress! Congrats Aaron!! :) I'm still screwing around with features on my bag, once I have something less embarrassing I'd love to send you a sample!
Are you thinking of different exterior colours as well? Personally I feel like a navy or grey exterior would really elevate the looks of this bag. All Black isn't really doing it for me personally.
Thanks melody! I had the community vote on the color and the overwhelming majority picked black - but I’m personally not feeling the ballistic nylon right now. We’re gonna test out some different materials and hopefully it will improve the look of the bag. Maybe other color options too, hopefully. Looking forward to seeing a sample of your bag!
Great bts video! I love seeing your excitement as you see your bag come to life. Im looking forward to ordering my own. Will you make it available for company logos? I've been looking to grab an all-purpose bag for my nonprofit.
thanks dude, the excitement is real! And yes, we are toying with ways to add company logos - probably on the top lid for ultimate sexiness ;) contact me aaron@nomadsnation.com for more info
Re color, I love 73 or 78 in your color montage, 73 that teal really pops! Maybe it's regional, but I think if you don't include a water bottle pocket or a top lockable quick pocket, you'll lose a lot of folks especially if you're not getting carry handles or using compression buckles (usual exchanges for side pocket). For the back, the trolley sleeve could have a zip at the base so it doubles as a pocket....) Several people have mentioned the name Natasha (not sure why), but my ears perked up, of course! 😂 (diff spelling tho')
thanks for the feedback! carry handles and compression buckles are things we might add later, but don't want to overcomplicate the bag too much. External water bottle holder is tough right now as the expansion really fucks with our ability to have both.... might have to decide for one over the other....
I can imagine fidlock being expensive to licence but will that magnet closure at the top of the quick access pocket in the front hold up if the bag is turned on it's side or upside down? Looks easy to undo and even a loose bottle of moisturiser may undo it. Just some feedback but keep up the great work!
after rigorously testing it for a few weeks I can say everything stays in place - even if the bag falls over. But the fidlocks are something we are still potentially considering....
I like 46 as it's different than what others are doing but I also liked 73 since no one I'm aware of is doing that color. 49 is cool too. They all allow seeing what's in the bag.
I have a Knack Series 1 and I like it, but the orange is a bit much sometimes. Also like what they did with the flap.
The bag you left with looks great so far. I think everything's definitely moving in the right direction.
Thanks for the feedback dude! 73 was also an interesting choice. Agreed that the orange can be a bit much sometimes. Based on these comments I think the goal is to find something fun/different/interesting, but without being TOO LOUD lol
@@Nomads.Nation I agree, different, but not at the expense of retinas.
@@Scott__C those retinas are important lol
I prefer #43 for the internal fabric. I believe it would be easier for me to spot my objects on the inside of the bag. My concert is visibility with #49.
Good points! I’m thinking of doing some sort of fusion between the two to get the best of both worlds
The lighter honey comb material for the lining would suit. Its a great looking bag , my only concern is the front pocket with the zip in the middle which is a great concept for ease of use and access. However, this zip is easy for someone / thief to open it. Are you going to include some security into the zip?
On another note - great web site and enjoying your journey
Thanks so much! And yes, we have a few unique ideas for security of that front zipper that will bring the whole bag to the next level. Details coming soon!
Hey, I think 49 is the best, it looks cool and I dont think it will stain as fast as the white one
Great point - white is temperamental for sure
If you have time can you please review the Mous 25l backpack?
Review will be live this week or next 💪🏾
@@Nomads.Nation Thank You so much!
@@LionelSSMS_10 my pleasure :)
Hey Aaron love watching ever step in the process of making a backpack. I love #49 for the interior. What the thought process for attaching or storing keys in the front pocket? Are you going the magnetic route or more of a retractable zip line? Excited for the next steps in the process!
noted on 49! As for keys, I'm not sure just yet. We are going to test out a few different things - either a magnetic option, or maybe a retractable one. Maybe something simple like a leash will work best... I'll be sure to keep everyone posted on this 💪
Hi Aaron! 49 is interesting but it could be a little bit darker so it might be not easy to find stuff inside. I will go with something in contrast so 43 is my favorite choice between these 2 options. What do you thing for something orange inside? The contrast with the black outside could be awesome! Have a nice day! 😉
nice! orange is overdone imo - I'm going to try and find something unique if I can :)
looking good! Congrats!
Thanks a ton!!
That 49 liner is sweet. I also like the new lid design, I think it’s moving in a good direction. Do you think after wear the top corners of the lid flap will start to sag?
Awesome to hear! And no, it won’t, especially as we continue to refine it and make it sexier and more durable
@@Nomads.Nation Nice!
My vote is for interior 49.
The shape of the bag really turned out well, it looks great. I can’t see what the first actual sample looks like. I’m assuming it’s going to have one of the bottle holder options incorporated into it right?
you can see what it looks like at the end of the video. I am not showing off the bag in it's entirety on purpose because it's still a mockup - once the first sample is done, then I'll run you guys through everything. Water bottle holder = still working on it... We might have to cut it though with the addition of the 5L of expansion. There just might not be enough room to make both work. But we've got a couple more ideas, details coming soon! 😏
49 for the internal fabric!
Congrats!!
Thanks so much!
Just some thoughts…not a fan of the ‘hatch’ or it being held by magnets (a pickpocket’s dream!), would rather see a safer zippered hidden compartment at the top. While the vertical zipper looks cool and stylish, I’d be worried at things falling out when unzipped…would like to see a u-shaped zippered compartment that flap out with multiple internal pockets for smaller items…microfiber pocket for glasses, and mesh for cords, wallet, etc. Brightly colored lining instead of gray. Hidden zip in the straps, maybe. Adjustable placement for padded straps on the back (not just being able to lengthen or shorten) to accommodate variety of torsos. Excited to see the next version!
I’ve been traveling with this bag for 3 weeks now and the hatch is literally a dream. Everything stays perfectly in its place and is super accessible, and we have some anti-theft ideas in the works that will make this bag a pickpockets nightmare 💪🏾
Alpaka bags do have a sexy design language, so I like that you gave them a shoutout. Not sure that you reviewed any of their bags, though. Would definitely love to see your take on their products.
My vote goes for that #43 fabric for the inside lining. "Crazy" can be good, but "neutral" has universal appeal for everyone. Or you could go with some red liner because red is sexy....
Also, watching you demonstrate the back pocket by swinging the bag around and pulling things out, it's making me think...does this bag NEED the flap? Maybe I'm not seeing the functional benefit. With the flap closed, it doesn't look like it's getting in the way of using that pocket, and opening the flap doesn't seem like it actually gives you enough access to that pocket without unzipping it anyway, but I dunno. Couldn't tell really. Aesthetics are always important, but functional aesthetics are something I can get behind. It definitely brings the look of the bag together, though.
I'm thinking maybe seeing you only grab things deep from the back pocket made it so that I couldn't visualize what grabbing stuff from those top internal packets would be like, cause, on second thought, I'm thinking that might be a good place for earbuds. Swing the bag around, pop open the flap, grab your buds. Or keys.
great points dude! You are totally correct that you don't need to open the lid to access The Hatch - but if you really want to get into the compartment, being able to open the lid helps to much. This way it's the best of both worlds - a quick access option, and a more open/accessible option. Plus, we are going to be adding a few features to the lid that will help take the bag as a whole to another level. More details coming soon ;)
Loving the 49!
it’s bold for sure !
Man I'm getting exited
Me too! Haha
can't wait!
thank you!
The pattern of 49 stands out more. I would keep in mind the colors that you chose. If it gets dirty easily it would negate the effect of the pattern.
Great feedback, appreciated!
49 for the win
💪🏾 👑
Concerning the inner lining, for me: go bold, go bright, go flamboyant
I like that advice! 🫡
Echo n all the comments for a nice bright interior to make things easy to find. One thought, do you think a small tab on the hatch would help in opening it? Something nice and grabby.
Great suggestion - John (our designer) wants to add something subtle like this. We'll add it in the first sample which will hopefully be ready in a month 😊
Personally, I'm not a fan of white fabric for internal lining. Yeah, it's bright, but I always get paranoid about getting dirt on it. The other one, while "funky", puts unnecessary strain on the eyes. Not sure how crucial it is in the case of backpack, but if I to choose between those two, I'd go for the monotone white one. Maybe beige - like in some Bellroy's products, and in Able Carry Max Backpack in blue and green color options.
great points - I'm gonna try and look for another option that's maybe a middle ground between the two
I'm suggesting the 49 for the internal
Thanks dude!
49 is good. Or something like 49 that is slightly brighter. Copper would be awesome.
Hell yea, I’m thinking the same thing.
Please add an external water bottle holder😢
working on it haha. right now we are in a tough spot - it doesn't look like we can have BOTH the expansion AND the external water bottle holder. We are trying to get creative to think of a solution, but this is the challenges of making a physical product - everything is a give and a take
Keep it going ❗️❗️❗️
never gonna stop! 🙌
Are you adding a large hidden pocket on the back harness padded area for secure storage of passports, etc?
of course! this is a MUST have in a bag for me
please keep the branding lowkey and stealth, nothing ruins a bag more for me then loud branding. Brands like Aer and Goruck do this well.
It’s going to be super low key - this is crucial for a bag like this
Hey Aaron can you swap the front zip to something you can hook your fingers into (similar to the Maxpedition zippers)
Oh yea, our zipper pullers will have bigger holes and also be lockable. Hopefully they’ll be ready by the next sample
@@Nomads.Nation That's awesome
@@IdhamIdris 💪
I like it but I think a top and side grab handle might make it more sellable
Great feedback! We have a top handle already - it's very low key and is connected to the top of the back panel. As for the side handles, I would TOTALLY agree if this were a larger travel bag, but as an EDC/small carry on, I just don't think it's necessary. Happy to debate it though!
I wish you consider putting a hidden compartment in your backpack in the future
We plan to have at least 3 hidden compartment currently!
And please, dont forget the luggage pass-through handle. It's a make or break for me.
don't worry - me too 🖐️ 🧳
oooo 49 is sexy. also i feel like turquoise as weird as it sounds would be a fun interior color
Not weird at all - could be very cool!
How thick of a computer will the laptop sleeve be able to handle? I use an hp snook that is an inch thick and it doesn’t fit in many smaller bags.
Not 100% sure yet - hoping up to a 17 inch
I like 49 better. I think the more adventurous lining is more fun.
its ballsy for sure lol
Swatch 49 for sure, or something with more character/color!
I agree!
@@Nomads.Nation any timeline on actual release? Been going in between a few bags but this has me waiting!
@@jacksonmatthew1072 hoping for early 2024! Don’t want to rush anything - the bag has to be perfect 💪🏾
would there be a quick-access side pocket for bottle?
Still working on that… not sure at this point to be honest though.
rockin them san mig lights😅😅😅
All day haha
Not sure how is your distributed channel, can I expect to get mine as I am in Thailand?
Hoping to - absolutely!
Finally I can get myself a Fyro.
You can take notes on UA-cam videos? How!?
Can’t get it yet haha, this is only the fabric mock-up - now we move into the sampling phase
I appreciate the excitement of getting it closer to being done but that front ‘hatch’ is concerning. A verticals zip pocket allows everything to fall out when opened and limits the amount that can be put in it. Also, that dangling zipper just begs for a pickpocket to do his thing. Liningwise the gray is safe. Did you consider a bright blue? Just a thought.
Been using the bag for three weeks non-stop now - the hatch is amazing. And we’ve got some anti-theft features we are implementing that will take the compartment to the next level 💪🏾
Can’t wait to see it
Clean interior material ala that alpaca grey over a busy pattern
thanks for the feedback!
Will there be a shoe compartment?
I don't plan to at this point, no. But the bag will still be able to fit a few pairs of shoes no problemo, all of which can be stored in a shoe-bag or other bag
@@Nomads.Nation ok thanks, that’s cool.