Показал это видео своему давнему знакомому , Ивановичу . Дай бог ему здоровья - 9-тый десяток не шутки . токарь - фрезеровщик с почти 50-ти летним стажем . В своё время в нашем мех. цеху осваивал одним из первых ЧПУ с перфолентой . В каптёрке стояли шахматы , шашки и домино полностью из металла . Причём слоны с бивнями и поднятыми хоботами , хвостами и лошади с рыцарями в седле и копьями . Тура - башня крепости с лучниками и т. д . Чёрные - воронённые , белые отполированные . Всё это можно было сложить в коробку с полем . Вес шахмат с шашками в коробке - 39 с копейками кг. Он внимательно просмотрел и в конце сказал - " я бы так не смог "
As a " I love when people preface themselves " retired Machinist I enjoy watching true Machinist working and even using machines I used in the 70's. I feel many comments on these sights are from paper pushers that never worked in industry, like on the shop floor making stuff. Keep up the great videos.
Глядя этот фильм осознаешь, что по сути ничего сложного нет. Мы погрязли в формулах, таблицах, и в компьютерных расчетах, создавая коленчатый вал, а бородатый мужик с помощью линейки его сделал. И ведь будет работать. Похоже это поток, работают несколько токарных станков 50 годов того столетия и среди гор стружек и мусора делают коленчатые валы из цилиндрической заготовки, а не из поковки или литья, как мы привыкли. Мерительный инструмент похоже берегут как зеницу Ока, потому как достают в особо важных моментах, а так пользуются линейками, проволочными скобочками и на глазок. Обучить, обеспечить современными средствами и эти парни стали бы токарями высокой квалификации, возможно.
туда современное оборудование никогда не завезут, они математику и сопромат не изучали ! это работать не будет , а если будет то совсем не долго ! это все шляпа, без компов и чпу и расчетов нихуя не сделаешь, а ебошить на глаз станками 30 тых годов это все хуета !
Surely it's not unsecured, otherwise it would have left in one of the very many times they do this operation. And I guess that you haven't watched the video, as the same operation is then shown in full detail.
@WolfieMel I am a cutting machine operator with 35 years of professional experience. The counterweight is not secured against the risk of someone getting into its movement space. With all the rubbish lying around on the floor of this workshop, you can quickly stumble, because you can imagine the rest yourself.
@@chris-su8ns it is obvious to anyone that safety, as mandated by Western standards, is almost non existent in this kind of shops. Hopefully the smart worker will compensate with extra attention and this thinking which is always the most important factor to prevent accidents. First you said unsecured, which means poorly fastened, then shifted to say unprotected against someone stumbling? First world thinking at its best. If you come here to give lectures about all that could happen that is a wasted effort, and it sounds out of context.
@WolfieMel He means the fixture on the faceplate that hold the work, and acts as counterweight for the unbalance at the same time. Cleverly designed and we'll executed with the little available means.
Какие универсалы токаря сам работал на таких токарных станках но не сталкивался с такой ответственной работай.большой респект таким токарям мастерам своего дела.❤❤❤.😊😊😊.🎉🎉🎉.
Good old fashioned sweat, muscle and common sense are in abundance in this shop!!! Loved the improvised dial indicator at 5:09!! Just goes to show theres more than one way to skin a cat.
That's called a surface gauge, even Starrett makes them, and that's what you use for scribing in layout, and setting up a 4 jaw chuck with a casting or forged workpiece proving out that your work will clean up to finish size with no hammer marks or air pockets or sand that has turned into glass etc...
the amount of work you guys get done with the tools you have at hand and not any whining i can see or understand always impresses me. Skill and knowledge of what you are doing is always the greatest safety measure to me and a good working partnership with your fellows. Stay safe and busy and hope you are all making a living.
I thought this was going to be a repair to the massive shaft in the intro image! So, anyway, now I know where all the clapped out old machine tools went from the UK! How they manage to achieve anything like precision from these things is amazing! That part anywhere in the west would be knocked out on a CNC in a fraction of the time, the difference being of course that these guys could never afford such equipment and why would they when they can buy a knacker lathe for 10 quid and pay the operators a pound a day, and no costs for worker safety! Impressive results though, despite the circumstances.
I hope the steel quality is equivalent or better than those of the broken crankshaft. It’s not very likely they test the steel properties, in Pakistan quality is secondary 😂
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I swear that is the drive square of the ratcheting wrench i broke last summer. These people are like 5cm tall max.
I did notice that the lifting gear is to small for the crane hook . This can result in undue stress on the equipment . I would not like to see the results if this failed with such a heavy load being moved about . It is possible to buy shackles to overcome this problem .
Can’t be a replacement for a broken ammonia machine, the other guy on the other lathe is making the exact same 3 piston crankshaft, but still nice work👍
Do they have brooms, safety glasses and safety shoes? I imagine that they spend their nights picking shards of metal from their eyes and feet! It's no wonder that so many of our jobs have gone overseas! There's no such thing as OSHA in other countries! Goverment agencies and red tape in America has stifled the factories here to the point that our factories are forced to move overseas to make a profit! I know this particular factory is in some far east country and it's not in competition with factories here in America but this is just one example that there's businesses that aren't redtaped to death! 🤬
Волшебство! Это настоящая машина времени! Я попал на сто лет назад! Тогда люди были проще, честнее и добрее друг к другу. Хочу туда! В какой стране это происходит?
So feared backlash is actually meaningless to the machinist that knows how to use the machines. Simply do all measurements moving the slides always in the same direction, against the work.
@@paulcandiago9339 Where you see depression I see will, results, and the ability of doing independently, breaking the chain of globalization and industrial dominance by few.
Они сделали предмет похожий на коленвал. Допотопные станки с конским износом , микрометров нет, нет закалки, стали кусок примерно подходящей, нет балансировки. Возможно это будет, вопрос сколько.
Думаю это только заготовка, дальше сделают шпонпазы и прочие отверстия, просверлят каналы , потом закалят, потмо отшлифуют шейки и посадки под подшипники.
Amazing skills demonstrated there but the huge absence of workplace safety procedure is a real eye opener. What sort of worker's compensation do they have ? One other observation is the quality of the scrap steel being repurposed for high stress applications - seems to be too soft to me as they're cutting it so easily without the use of carbide tools. Perhaps there's a tempering/case hardening final stage in the process not being shown to us in the video. Edit: Closeups in the later part of the video do show what appears to be brazed carbide tipped tools :)
@@joesilverbliss1721 I've only even seen 2 broken crankshafts in all my decades yet here I see what appears to be a huge pile of them. The steel looks to be too soft in the lathe videos.
I think that this is not a repair, but a standard item. Observe all the clamps on the shaping machine all just happen to fit. Why no cutting oil at all, at least not on the final bearings cut. Something is not honest in this video. @@potterteksmith7548
Because an adjustable caliper (Note, in English a compass is a magnetic direction device) can quickly measure keeping the work turning, while a vernier or digital caliper would be damaged. Wire gauge is then something completely different.
They seem to spend a lot of time making and repairing ammonia compressor crank shafts. Are they making them wrong and they break? Are the compressors faulty?
Title and description is poorly written, as you would expect. They are using a broken crankshaft to build other things, not necessarily an ammonia crankshaft.
After every machining operation, the part must be deburred. Those burr's are as sharp as a razor and will cut the hand with ease. Think about the next guy who has to handle the part. I know safety isn't important in your country but this is just being lazy. You guys act like you have the best doctors and hospitals, that your health care is free, and medicine is plentiful.
What are ammonia compressors used for?…… 70-80 years ago ammonia was used as a refrigerant gas……. Is that what this compressor does.? Replacement parts are probably not available so they do the necessary thing for an obsolete machine.
Показал это видео своему давнему знакомому , Ивановичу . Дай бог ему здоровья - 9-тый десяток не шутки . токарь - фрезеровщик с почти 50-ти летним стажем . В своё время в нашем мех. цеху осваивал одним из первых ЧПУ с перфолентой . В каптёрке стояли шахматы , шашки и домино полностью из металла . Причём слоны с бивнями и поднятыми хоботами , хвостами и лошади с рыцарями в седле и копьями . Тура - башня крепости с лучниками и т. д . Чёрные - воронённые , белые отполированные . Всё это можно было сложить в коробку с полем . Вес шахмат с шашками в коробке - 39 с копейками кг. Он внимательно просмотрел и в конце сказал - " я бы так не смог "
As a " I love when people preface themselves " retired Machinist I enjoy watching true Machinist working and even using machines I used in the 70's. I feel many comments on these sights are from paper pushers that never worked in industry, like on the shop floor making stuff. Keep up the great videos.
Глядя этот фильм осознаешь, что по сути ничего сложного нет. Мы погрязли в формулах, таблицах, и в компьютерных расчетах, создавая коленчатый вал, а бородатый мужик с помощью линейки его сделал. И ведь будет работать. Похоже это поток, работают несколько токарных станков 50 годов того столетия и среди гор стружек и мусора делают коленчатые валы из цилиндрической заготовки, а не из поковки или литья, как мы привыкли. Мерительный инструмент похоже берегут как зеницу Ока, потому как достают в особо важных моментах, а так пользуются линейками, проволочными скобочками и на глазок. Обучить, обеспечить современными средствами и эти парни стали бы токарями высокой квалификации, возможно.
туда современное оборудование никогда не завезут, они математику и сопромат не изучали ! это работать не будет , а если будет то совсем не долго ! это все шляпа, без компов и чпу и расчетов нихуя не сделаешь, а ебошить на глаз станками 30 тых годов это все хуета !
The sight of the unsecured counterweight on the lathe in the background sends chills down my spine.
Surely it's not unsecured, otherwise it would have left in one of the very many times they do this operation. And I guess that you haven't watched the video, as the same operation is then shown in full detail.
@WolfieMel I am a cutting machine operator with 35 years of professional experience. The counterweight is not secured against the risk of someone getting into its movement space. With all the rubbish lying around on the floor of this workshop, you can quickly stumble, because you can imagine the rest yourself.
@@chris-su8ns it is obvious to anyone that safety, as mandated by Western standards, is almost non existent in this kind of shops. Hopefully the smart worker will compensate with extra attention and this thinking which is always the most important factor to prevent accidents.
First you said unsecured, which means poorly fastened, then shifted to say unprotected against someone stumbling? First world thinking at its best.
If you come here to give lectures about all that could happen that is a wasted effort, and it sounds out of context.
@WolfieMel He means the fixture on the faceplate that hold the work, and acts as counterweight for the unbalance at the same time. Cleverly designed and we'll executed with the little available means.
😊
Amazing to see such old equipment make such big products.
Кузня и токарка стала популярная как и герои которые на ней трудятся 😊
, crazy guys but real work heroes!!!!
Sir, really commendable engineering works.
I proud all of you.
Thanks a lot.
Hugely impressed as always. Great skill👏👍
Esses profissionais realmente tiraram água de pedra, parabéns pelo profissionalismo.
47:03 47:04 47:08 47:10 47:11
This is amazing machine work just using a common lathe and a set of calipers. Lots of experience and practice! Good job!
Какие универсалы токаря сам работал на таких токарных станках но не сталкивался с такой ответственной работай.большой респект таким токарям мастерам своего дела.❤❤❤.😊😊😊.🎉🎉🎉.
Well there s a war going on, some people think that is more important.
Good old fashioned sweat, muscle and common sense are in abundance in this shop!!! Loved the improvised dial indicator at 5:09!! Just goes to show theres more than one way to skin a cat.
That's called a surface gauge, even Starrett makes them, and that's what you use for scribing in layout, and setting up a 4 jaw chuck with a casting or forged workpiece proving out that your work will clean up to finish size with no hammer marks or air pockets or sand that has turned into glass etc...
Good bro aap ka all videos super par chal raha hai very nice
I still want to know how their dead centers survive? Magic white lead, filthy pig grease, whatever?
A hundred years ago,the recommended lubricant was sperm oil. Since that is a complete no no,perhaps motor oil with some rapeseed pill added.
the amount of work you guys get done with the tools you have at hand and not any whining i can see or understand always impresses me. Skill and knowledge of what you are doing is always the greatest safety measure to me and a good working partnership with your fellows. Stay safe and busy and hope you are all making a living.
Well said, sir.
Throws every on the ground when done with it . Tool ,washer , nuts,bolts ,everything
uma equipe bem sincronizada, parabéns.
lindo o trabalho detes senhores....joinville sc Brasil
These lathes probably remember Queen Victoria
Beatiful 👍
I will never complain about my job again, ever
A Kafkian chaos of the Human mind in a mechanical shop transformed in a depressing prison of disorder, prison, and dirt.
JAJAJAJAJA , ME TOO
I thought this was going to be a repair to the massive shaft in the intro image! So, anyway, now I know where all the clapped out old machine tools went from the UK! How they manage to achieve anything like precision from these things is amazing! That part anywhere in the west would be knocked out on a CNC in a fraction of the time, the difference being of course that these guys could never afford such equipment and why would they when they can buy a knacker lathe for 10 quid and pay the operators a pound a day, and no costs for worker safety! Impressive results though, despite the circumstances.
Very few places in the west have the skill base to do this type of work .
incredible job!
You would think that the work areas would be cleaned of all the metal shavings for work safety.
At least they are not wearing sandals as I have seen in other videos from the Indian sub-continent.
Good job bhai man sha Allah
Это потрясающе. Музей металлообработки. Путешествие на 100 лет в прошлое.
PARABÉNS MENINOS VOCÊS SÃO DIMAIS
These guys are just amazing
I hope the steel quality is equivalent or better than those of the broken crankshaft. It’s not very likely they test the steel properties, in Pakistan quality is secondary 😂
I swear that is the drive square of the ratcheting wrench i broke last summer. These people are like 5cm tall max.
"Great we spent almost 200 hrs making a new crank, lets check the compressor block for damage--- OOPS...."
Good job!
All tolerances are guaranteed less than 2 fingers.
I wonder if these people know what a broom is used for?
I did notice that the lifting gear is to small for the crane hook . This can result in undue stress on the equipment . I would not like to see the results if this failed with such a heavy load being moved about . It is possible to buy shackles to overcome this problem .
Where they used ?
Well done!☘️👍
Inches, inches of precision!
This is a ridiculous comment (and you know it)
@@morganfreeman5171 and as a viewer of machining channels, you might understand why.
Vocês são muito tralhador
Can’t be a replacement for a broken ammonia machine, the other guy on the other lathe is making the exact same 3 piston crankshaft, but still nice work👍
Do they have brooms, safety glasses and safety shoes? I imagine that they spend their nights picking shards of metal from their eyes and feet! It's no wonder that so many of our jobs have gone overseas! There's no such thing as OSHA in other countries! Goverment agencies and red tape in America has stifled the factories here to the point that our factories are forced to move overseas to make a profit! I know this particular factory is in some far east country and it's not in competition with factories here in America but this is just one example that there's businesses that aren't redtaped to death! 🤬
Buon lavoro
Волшебство! Это настоящая машина времени! Я попал на сто лет назад! Тогда люди были проще, честнее и добрее друг к другу. Хочу туда! В какой стране это происходит?
Pakistan!?
Look at the backlash in that cross slide @ 6:40......😳
A Kafkian chaos of the Human mind in a mechanical shop transformed in a depressing prison of disorder, prison, and dirt.
Look at the backlash in your brain ! No money they do what they can. No money No money capiche ??????
So feared backlash is actually meaningless to the machinist that knows how to use the machines. Simply do all measurements moving the slides always in the same direction, against the work.
@@paulcandiago9339 Where you see depression I see will, results, and the ability of doing independently, breaking the chain of globalization and industrial dominance by few.
Bhai I'm from Karachi 🥰💓
When would you guess this equipment was made? 1950’s?
Holy crap that's dangerous
Made from old ships.
A Kafkian chaos of the Human mind in a mechanical shop transformed in a depressing prison of disorder, prison, and dirt.
That's their metallurgic lab, use something that previously lived a hard life well.
@@paulcandiago9339 Like a nightmare that never ends till death.
Numero de oficina
Они сделали предмет похожий на коленвал. Допотопные станки с конским износом , микрометров нет, нет закалки, стали кусок примерно подходящей, нет балансировки. Возможно это будет, вопрос сколько.
Думаю это только заготовка, дальше сделают шпонпазы и прочие отверстия, просверлят каналы , потом закалят, потмо отшлифуют шейки и посадки под подшипники.
amazing
Amazing skills demonstrated there but the huge absence of workplace safety procedure is a real eye opener. What sort of worker's compensation do they have ?
One other observation is the quality of the scrap steel being repurposed for high stress applications - seems to be too soft to me as they're cutting it so easily without the use of carbide tools. Perhaps there's a tempering/case hardening final stage in the process not being shown to us in the video.
Edit: Closeups in the later part of the video do show what appears to be brazed carbide tipped tools :)
I was also wondering about the steel quality. Looks nice but is it strong?
@@joesilverbliss1721 I've only even seen 2 broken crankshafts in all my decades yet here I see what appears to be a huge pile of them. The steel looks to be too soft in the lathe videos.
I think that this is not a repair, but a standard item. Observe all the clamps on the shaping machine all just happen to fit. Why no cutting oil at all, at least not on the final bearings cut. Something is not honest in this video. @@potterteksmith7548
Люди, которых я уважаю
А почему они не в шлепанцах?
scam bait
They using compass to measure the size why don't the use vernier calipers or wire gauge.
Because an adjustable caliper (Note, in English a compass is a magnetic direction device) can quickly measure keeping the work turning, while a vernier or digital caliper would be damaged.
Wire gauge is then something completely different.
No thank you, dangerous enough on modern equipment i should think.
54:42
They seem to spend a lot of time making and repairing ammonia compressor crank shafts. Are they making them wrong and they break? Are the compressors faulty?
It is their business...As you would have a car workshop, they fix cars....
ua-cam.com/video/aUS19q5wQ_Y/v-deo.html I see a crack, maybe they do break??
What do we know? All what matters is that they are able to make them.
Title and description is poorly written, as you would expect. They are using a broken crankshaft to build other things, not necessarily an ammonia crankshaft.
Aloha Snackbar!
Это какая страна?
колена на дискаря точат
никогда в видюхах не видел ни чертежа, ни плана работ . в милиметры из памяти ебошат ??
A Kafkian chaos of the Human mind in a mechanical shop transform in a depressing of disorder, prison, and dirt.
😢😢
You repeated that not less than three times for this same video. In the same time, these people provided income for their families.
장갑 좀 끼고 하시요. 재발
After every machining operation, the part must be deburred. Those burr's are as sharp as a razor and will cut the hand with ease. Think about the next guy who has to handle the part. I know safety isn't important in your country but this is just being lazy. You guys act like you have the best doctors and hospitals, that your health care is free, and medicine is plentiful.
Cудя по объёму работ,на вал весь день ушёл....
день он только на строгальном плясал а весь коленвал неделю ложи .режимы резания не изменить
What are ammonia compressors used for?…… 70-80 years ago ammonia was used as a refrigerant gas……. Is that what this compressor does.? Replacement parts are probably not available so they do the necessary thing for an obsolete machine.
well looks like to this company's owner and management DONOT VALUE HUMAN RITES OR WELLBEING OF THERE EMPLOYE,
А есть то, что вы не можете сделать?
took half the video to use the chain hoist
A never ending state of broken down
And these ships show up in our harbours. Disaster waiting to happen