Out of Gas!! || Carbon Monoxide || Piper Cherokee 140
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- This is how I use self-service fuel for my airplane. Also I tell a story about a time when I had dangerous levels of carbon monoxide in the cabin.
Sensorcon CO Detector I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09...
Great video by @AV8OR51 testing different CO detectors: • CO Detector test! Tocs...
Piper Cherokee 140 N6374W
Stanly County Airport KVUJ
Concord-Padgett Regional Airport KJQF
Music: Dover by The Westerlies • The Westerlies: "Dover...
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⚡1dullgeek@getalby.com
0:00 Intro
1:04 Enroute
2:26 Carbon Monoxide Detector
4:00 Turning Final
5:36 Setting Up for Fuel
7:20 Fueling the Airplane
9:06 Checking the Fuel
9:52 Going Home
I was surprised when my CFII told me how long it was before he knew how to use self-serve fuel. I just assumed that was taught as part of private pilot training. Are there any other things that I might show you how to do?
full-serve fuel and asking/following for parking are things I didn't have experience with.
@@flysport_tedder Yeah I'm still not very good at talking on unicom. I really need to get into a habit of doing that.
Actually yeah, I'd like to learn how to do full service fuel. I've never done it so far and I have no idea how. I plan to mostly avoid it both to save cost and I just don't like the idea of trusting someone else to fill my plane, but I think there are some airports where that's the only option.
@@cheapskateaviation I can think of two airports I've done it. One had a contracted full-serve rate that was cheaper than the "retail" self-serve rate. The other was because it was the only option. Generally I like going to smaller airports, so they don't have bougie services anyhow.
@@cheapskateaviation My home airport is full service only. And it's very expensive. Hence why I'm flying to the next airport over to get gas.
I have “Check CO” as one of my last steps on my run up check list. I’ve found that my 235 usually hovers around 50ppm on run up with cabin heat on. This yields 0ppm in flight. It’s something everybody should pay attention to!
Oh. That's a good one. I think I'll add that to my checklist.
Before I bought my Sentry ADS-B (w/built-in CO detector) a couple of years ago, I was using those "orange dot" card-style CO monitors. Thanks for sharing your experience, and glad that it turned out well for you. Guys and Gals are dropping $1000 on headsets, they can spend $150 on a life-saving device, and there are several CO detectors out there. As a matter-of-fact, one headset manufacturer is incorporating a CO detector into one of their latest models (no sales plug intended).
Meticulous and thorough fueling procedure - especially GROUNDING the flying machine, and re-sumping your tanks after refueling!
Yeah it's 1 hour of flying if you're renting and less than two hours if you own. I still think it's easy, but I don't presume to know everyone's circumstances.
Thanks for the kind words!
Even if some part 91 schools fueling an airplane is never done. I remember having to do a fuel run myself, and needing someone to help me feel the the airplane. Great video!
Yes, thank you! I remember that video! I remember the story of the guy who was really helpful.
Thanks for watching! And fly well.
Amazing about the Co2 scenario! Just wow! Glad you had that thing. So you post in Discord. Great video! SUB!
Yeah I was surprised at how useless those little orange circle things are.
Thanks for watching and for the sub!
Of course you say we. We're is you and me (your audience). We're going with you. But you have to do all the hard work. You also get to do all the flying.
Still sounds awkward to me when I'm watching the video. Personally, my friend, I'd like you to go with me IRL too. When are you moving closer?
Great video! Thanks for the shoutout!
Yours was a great video! Deserved the shoutout!
I feel the "we" thing is to say "me and this airplane I am trusting with my life"
Maybe. Still feels awkward looking at myself flying solo in an airplane and hearing "we".
@1dullgeek do what thou will!
One thing about the credit card machine I'd like to mention. They put a hold of $500 on your card, as you mention it was making sure you have enough for 50 gallons, it is doing so by putting the hold for 24 hours. I was in the same position as your CFI as I fly out of part 141 school so I asked and got shown, if you are using AVcard from your club/or plane then it wont matter so much however if you are using your own personal credit/debit card. It surprised me a lot the first time because I wanted to know where my money went then it got explained :D
Yeah I know. Doesn't bother me. It's just the for a short time.
Cool song, brass music and flying!
Thanks. The song is Dover by The Westerlies. It's in the youtube audio library, so it's free to use without risk of copyright strike.
ua-cam.com/video/h5R4ewjfKWE/v-deo.html
@@1dullgeek Thank you, was getting limited on my music choices. Was using music I wrote and recorded.
@@theljungholmfamily Oh! Wow. I have almost zero musical talent. My 2nd son though has written some music and he's going to provide me with something that I can use. This video uses one of his songs without the lyrics: ua-cam.com/video/QtBug3L7eMg/v-deo.html
I'm hoping he'll make more for me.
This is such a great video! My CFII had never fueled his own plane either and during training, we never had to do. Believe it or not, the first time I fueled my own plane was at the inaugural Midlife Pilot Fly-In in OBX. I had done enough research to know how to if I ever needed to, but I was equally surprised to learn my CFII did not know how to self-serve fuel.
Oh interesting! Seems like not knowing how to self serve fuel an airplane is more common than I thought.
Thanks for the encouraging words!
Funny you say that. First time I ever fueled my own airplane was on my first solo cross country because my home airport only has full service. Someone at the airport had to show me how to use the machine. Not too hard once you know how
Your vlog is super cool.
Thanks
Thanks for the video. Regarding the "we" thing, I think its a pilot thing. I've always chuckled when I see solo pilots saying we on the radio. I'm not sure I've even ever heard someone say "I" on the radio. I guess it even transfers over to non-radio talking.
BTW that was helpful for me even though I always do self-serve fuel. I've only ever filled up at 2 airports so far and their pumps look drastically different from the one you showed there. I would have definitely needed to stand there scratching my head for a bit to figure out how to do it.
Yeah there were a couple of things along those lines that came to mind when I was editing the video. For example: why did that fuel pump already know my tail number?
Answer: because there are tons of fuel pump credit card thingies that are all linked, and they recognize my credit card number. The VERY first time I used this fuel pump, it knew my tail number because this type is linked.
And I could have mentioned that not all fuel pumps have eletric hose reels. And many have a different on/off switch.
I didn't think of this when I was filming and kinda thought it would change the focus of the video a bit. Maybe I should have put something in there. 🤷♀
And also, I've found myself saying "I" to ATC in a couple of my own private videos. So I know it's possible.
You never mentioned the metal "full tabs" in the wing tank necks. Indicates 18 gal / wing tank level vs 25 gallons capacity when full to top of tank. Only filling to 36 gallon level helps with your forward C of G when carrying heavy passengers out of short or high density altitude airfield. I own a 1972 PA28-140E .
Yes that's a good point. That tends to not ever be an issue for me, but it's a good point.
@@1dullgeek I fly out of a 2000 ft grass airstrip with 50 ft trees on the ends. Zero timed 160 hp, Art Mattson VG, Wing Gap fairings, and Horner wing tips. Every little bit helps.
@@bobkimmcdonald6171 Makes sense!
Another great video as usual! I actually didn’t know you didn’t have to know the exact amount. Usually I do fill up but I encountered an airport that didn’t have a full up option and proceeded to go back and dip the tanks to calculate the fuel needed. I thought it charged you for how many gallons you put into the computer. That is good info to know! Another thing I learned is if you don’t turn that pump on fast enough it shuts off and you have to start over again
Thanks and yup!
“WE” as in you, and us your viewers 😃
Thanks! Yeah it still feels awkward when I'm editing the video.
I try to avoid clipping the clamp on my exhaust. If you trip over it it can rip the exhaust and possibly crack or chip it or cause wear and tear leading to early cracking at that end.
Just a little thing I practice.
Interesting. So where do you clamp it to, then?
Such a great practical video! Yes, we're all going along with you on the video.
I'm considering completing my PPL training in a Cherokee 140. All of my training thus far has been in a 172. The short answer why is possibly changing flight schools. I remember you transitioned as well from some high wing (172?) to a low wing (Cherokee?). At this point I'm done with all my required hours and have to finish cleaning up maneuvers as well as brushing up from not flying since November. In your case how many hours do you think was taken up by the transition?
Thanks and God bless. ~Russ
Thanks for the kind words!
I also started out in a 172. According to my logbook it took 4.9 hours to transition before I did my first solo in the Cherokee. I've never looked back!
Good luck on your PPL & Checkride!
0:38 everyone says "we" on the radio, it's funny.
7:20 admit it, how many times do you "time out" the card reader before getting the pumping going? I've gotten better, only about 1/3rd of the time.
I put the sump cup on my seat. That way I can wait as long as possible after refueling yet I'm not going to start without sumping. That might be more difficult with a monodoor, especially with a passenger, do you have a habit?
Re: we, yeah I know.
Re: timeout, I must have done it at least once because I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember it.
What brand of carbon monoxide monitor do you have. I would like to get one.
I have this one
Sensorcon AV8 Inspector AV8-CO-01... www.amazon.com/dp/B0985Z4JYS