NO GPS || Pilotage & Dead Reckoning || Piper Cherokee 235

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • As part of my commercial checkride, I had to plan a cross country flight entirely using pilotage and dead reckoning for naviation. Meaning: looking out the window for landmarks, and using airspeed, windspeed and math to predict fuel usage.
    I wanted to fly down to RBW to get a preview of what waypoints were down there that I could easily see. So I decided to fly the entire way to RBW via pilotage & dead reckoning. And I had a complete blast doing it.
    Piper Cherokee 235 N9070W
    KVUJ Stanly County Airport
    KRBW Walterboro Low Country Regional Airport
    #geekflies #privatepilot #generalaviation #pipercherokee #piperchereokee235 #aviation #avgeek
    ⚡1dullgeek@getalby.com
    00:00 Intro
    01:31 Takeoff
    02:27 Lake Tillery Dam
    02:55 Anson County
    04:12 Cheraw
    04:51 Darlington
    06:26 I-95 and I-26
    07:53 I-95 and 378
    09:30 Manning
    12:33 Lake Marion
    14:57 I-95 and I-26
    17:17 RBW in sight
    17:57 Landing at RBW
    18:15 Outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 32

  • @1dullgeek
    @1dullgeek  4 місяці тому +5

    Pilotage & Dead Reckoning is way more fun now than it was a student pilot. I think I will be doing more flights like this. This was partly inspired by a pilotage & dead reckoning competition at a nearby airport that I found out about too late to be able to participate. Next time.
    What do you think about the idea of flying without any navigation aids like a GPS? If you're a pilot, when was the last time you flew this way and what keeps you from doing it again?

  • @NathanBallardSaferFlying
    @NathanBallardSaferFlying 3 місяці тому +2

    The lost art of the all important P&DR. Nice video! We all need to see this is action, so we don’t get caught up in looking inside. Well done ✅✅✅

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  3 місяці тому

      Thanks, Nate! Like I said it was really fun! And I noticed things I would have never noticed had I not done this.

  • @bensinger297
    @bensinger297 4 місяці тому +3

    You really made it look easy. For non pilots, it isn't. Well done sir, great video.

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  4 місяці тому

      Actually it was easy. I was really surprised at how much easier it is now than it was as a student pilot. I'm guessing you'd think so too.

    • @bensinger297
      @bensinger297 4 місяці тому +1

      @@1dullgeek I do think it is easIER, yes. Checking calculations, checking landmarks, and running checklists can be a handful.

  • @FlyingPast50
    @FlyingPast50 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video. I always enjoy just watching you go up and fly. I had a lot of fun with pilotage and dead reckoning during my training… you’ve inspired me to plan a flight to do it again.

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  4 місяці тому

      Thank you! It was really fun. I look forward to hearing how yours goes.

  • @RusscanFLY
    @RusscanFLY 3 місяці тому +1

    This is so awesome! I haven’t done pilotage and dead, reckoning in a long time. You are my inspiration! I need to do this myself as well. It’s been a while! Keep flying, high, brother, and good luck on that commercial check ride!

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, Russ! Back when I was in private P&DR seemed like a chore. This was an absolute blast! I had so much fun. I'm looking forward to the next time I get to do another flight like this.

  • @PhoenixSales
    @PhoenixSales 3 місяці тому +1

    This video has me looking forward to my next VFR cross country doing P&DR!

  • @EvansBackpackingVideos
    @EvansBackpackingVideos 3 місяці тому +2

    That was a fun and original (and old-school) video. Imagine doing that with the chart folded up in your lap! You were lucky to have such good visibility on flight day-better for the video too. Based on hitting your times, I guess you had a pretty good wind forecast when you did your nav plan. Did you do the plan the day of the flight or the night before?

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  3 місяці тому

      Thanks, Evan!
      I did the plan the night before using the winds aloft chart in the weather briefing from Foreflight. But that's the only thing I used from FF. I did all the calculations using an e6b whiz wheel.
      Overall I ended up at very close to my predicted times. However that was because some where a little ahead of schedule and some a little behind. They all ended up averaging out to be 1 later than the schedule at the end.
      And yeah using a paper chart is a challenge that I experienced in private training. I didn't want to do that again.
      I totally agree the visibility made this a lot easier. Less visibility would require either:
      A) more waypoints closer together or
      B) trust that I'm headed in the right direction
      I'd likely choose A.

  • @ianshirreffs5604
    @ianshirreffs5604 3 місяці тому +1

  • @Mikinct
    @Mikinct 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice video,
    This should be mandatory for every pilot every so often.
    I feel many ga pilots that qrent professsional pilots flying 3-5 days a week. They mistly fly via GPS & use ainstrument appraches.
    Many might have a gps or ipad malfunction or autopilot disengages & the pilot eho hasnt hand flown in sometime wuickly gets behind their planes.

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  3 місяці тому

      You might be right about that. Personally I thought it was fun. I do like that it resuscitates skills that I haven't exercised in a while.

  • @jeffreyhughes7107
    @jeffreyhughes7107 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m left handed and it is so challenging to note stuff… I should add that I’m 6’4” in a Cherokee 140 so the yoke is also in the way. Enjoyed your video - you’re making such quick progress!

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  4 місяці тому

      Oh wow. Yeah I hadn't thought about the challenges of being left handed for writing in a navlog.
      I will say that I don't feel for you re: being 6'4. There's gotta be *some* advantage us short people get to have! :)

    • @jeffreyhughes7107
      @jeffreyhughes7107 4 місяці тому +1

      @@1dullgeek That actually made chuckle… there’re many advantages of being right handed and well below 6’4”, you just may not notice them. I’m also over 50 so the linemen always get some entertainment watching me get in and out of the plane. I tell people, it’s like putting on a pair of tight jeans. For the uninitiated, Cherokee 140s have one door and you step down from the wing to get in; then shuffle over to the left seat.

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  4 місяці тому

      @@jeffreyhughes7107 I'm familiar with Cherokee 140. If you look at my other videos I used to own one. Now I'm a partner with two others in the Cherokee 235 that's in this video.

    • @midlifeppl4969
      @midlifeppl4969 4 місяці тому +1

      Hi guys, greetings from the UK. @jeffreyhughes I can imagine the challenges of entering/exiting a 140. I am over 60 but only 5’8” so not such a challenge (yet!). Not sure of FAA regulations for PIC but would sitting in the right seat be better for you? Personally I would give my right arm to be ambidextrous!!😊

    • @jeffreyhughes7107
      @jeffreyhughes7107 3 місяці тому

      @@1dullgeek Yes, I remember. I’m the guy from Wilmington and our 140’s were/are very close in serial numbers, like two off.

  • @flysport_tedder
    @flysport_tedder 3 місяці тому

    4:30 I gotten that "navigate via [airport]" and then they think you're landing thing. Not always though.
    8:39 "I'm pretty sure that's gotta be it." .. like you are getting more confident with each word you say. heh.
    10:38 any idea what that was? I looked up Manning, maybe the fields up by Gable, zip code 29051?
    that feels like someone giving a lesson to a student about doing P/DR. Almost like you'd do well at the single i part.

    • @1dullgeek
      @1dullgeek  3 місяці тому

      4:30 Yeah any time I've ever gotten flight following on a non-direct route, they get confused and ask questions. I started off with CLT approach before I got handed off to FLO approach - who you heard. Both of the controllers asked the same question.
      8:39 lol... I hadn't noticed that
      10:38 It looks like it's just a big field. Here's the location: maps.app.goo.gl/apMXxJQXdTfVJdjE8
      re: single i, the XC flights during that stage would be the most fun part. It's all the rest that would be annoying.