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Would love to see how close the Dual Wreck to the Knuckles going to a power amp. And maybe same IR from the normal output channel with IR loader pedal or plugin.
@@79who it would be even better if he used them with a dual recto and compared the two pedals with the amp, pedals in the loop using the amp power section with them.
I have v550 and I think that the problem with the pedal is the fixed Celestion IR which is mediocre and that's why it sounds kinda artificial-ish. When I plugged it into my cab through the power amp it sounded really, really close to the real thing, same when I used my favourite IR which I mostly used with my 5150 plugged to the loadbox. All in all these pedals are amazing but not out of the box instantly. Sure, build in IR can be used in FOH situation, but when I can use better one it starts to sound amazing. A quick tip from me. 😃 Aaah, I forgot - update the firmware to get better tones!
I have the Dual Wreck. Built in IR is decent. Works fine for live scenarios through FOH. However... I've been running it through my valve amp as a preamp and HOLY MOLY it makes my tiny little fender valve sound like an actual dual rectifier. Overall- great on its own, but elite when through an amp.
Played a dual wreck live direct through a PA the other day. Honestly couldn't tell the difference between it and an actual dual rectifier mic'd up. At home I plugged it into a neutral small valve amp I have and cranked it and it sounded incredible. If I ever 'need an amp' to play, I'll take my small valve amp with the DW as its preamp but going direct is fine.
I have the v550 My thoughts: 1. Do the firmware update, it sounds much better 2. I wish I could load my own ir ,the stock one is ok ,but when you run an external ir it sounds much better 3. The boost is great if you have the gain on the drive low , ie around 9 or 10 o’clock . Turns it from a rock crunch to a high gain tone
I have The 550 and Dual Rec. They sound excellent in the clean channel of my Fireball 100. Very usable tones with further enhancement by my EQ and effects in the loop. I actually prefer these to my BEOD and Revv G4.
I wish someone would Do a video on all the pedals that are based off a certain amp against each other run through a cheap solid state amp and see which one can sound the closed to whatever amp they are based on.
Liked the review but have to know if you used the latest firmware updates or if these were just straight from the box as the Anderson music review on the whole range seemed to put them all in a much better light.
That 550 was my favorite, this inside an LS2 mixing some HM-2 must sound killer. Unless we have access to a Lightlaerm Medusa or DunnEffects Deathknob…
They sound great. A little more work left on the video to properly compare them to UA. Why on earth did they use a Mini USB on the back? C'mon TC, buy new connectors.
I had the Ampworx 800 an the 45. They were cool. But than I got the UAFX Lion and it blew me away. In my opinion these Ampworx pedals are absolutely no comparison to the UAFX stuff.
Hey man can you make a tutorial how you load your OwnHammer IRs? I use the Pulse plugin but there are so many IRs on the package I bought I dont understand anything especially with the Hz. And most of the time they sound Fizzy. I use a jcm 800 studio
How are you recording these guitars? It sounds like one recording split into 2 channels (left and right) and a widener on them or something... Please explain.
I went with the TC Electronic JIMS 800 pedal over the UAFX stuff simply because I don't like being tied to an app to do deep editing, especially when apps end up being taken off online stores, or become obsolete to operating systems etc. No thank you. Also, for other cab sims I can just run it into any IR loading pedal or like me, a HX Effects for other IR's, stereo output, and custom IR's.
Do the pedals save your settings for when you switch to the 2nd channel or do you have to change everything each time you switch over. Would you need to have two pedals to keep the settings the same for each channel?
@@VelhosNovos Yeah, I'm aware of that, but I think it would be nice to be able to change the IR on the pedal itself thus eliminating the need to have an extra pedal (IR loader). Also a DI on top of an ABY if you want to use IE as well... or even go through an amp's FX loop/poweramp. The direct output the pedal has is literally just in case someone's desperate, which is a shame as it's basically useless in a live situation and also forcing you to reconsider your ampless rig and pedalboard space.
The Dual Wreck and 550 are definitely better sounding than UA's Knuckles and Anti (IMO, ofc). Not because they sound more realistic or anything, it's just that the Dual Wreck and 550 sound more mix-ready. Some people don't prefer mix-ready sounding amp sims and IRs tho. UA doesn't have a JCM800 pedal so there's nothing to compare the Jims 800 to.
@ That's exactly why I intended this comment! The leads always show a different perspective of any music related product and it also sounds good when you do it! Keep it that way bro!
The 800 sounds really good, captures the spirit of my vintage 800 combo. Also worth noting, I will never buy another UA product because of their needlessly Using their corporate platform to spout off about cultural issues.
Maybe save up for a Theta and be done with it. Rectifier sounded Ass, garbage Wow! I can see and feel You disappointment and I was kinda bated for it was not a shootout. I’m assuming UA for 250$ More or 399$ Asking I would pray does better. 550 and the Dual Wreck sounded weak, Digital, and lifeless as Well as the 550, at least You were able to dial in.
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DUDE. I was literally scouring youtube YESTERDAY looking for a shootout like this and couldn't believe nobody had done it yet. Thank you for this!
I would want a shootout between each of these and the UA Lion, ANTI and knuckles. To be fair the Lion is a plexi and not a JCM800, but still
Would love to see how close the Dual Wreck to the Knuckles going to a power amp. And maybe same IR from the normal output channel with IR loader pedal or plugin.
the knuckles is a rev C, this is a rev G, but still would be a cool comparison.
@@NicholasMausIsn't the knuckes based on a rev F? It stands on the pedal.
@@jaktje yeah my bad
Dual Wreck vs Knuckles would be an interesting video.
i've been waiting for that video since the knuckles came out. hopefully someone will get that video done.
@@79who it would be even better if he used them with a dual recto and compared the two pedals with the amp, pedals in the loop using the amp power section with them.
I have v550 and I think that the problem with the pedal is the fixed Celestion IR which is mediocre and that's why it sounds kinda artificial-ish. When I plugged it into my cab through the power amp it sounded really, really close to the real thing, same when I used my favourite IR which I mostly used with my 5150 plugged to the loadbox. All in all these pedals are amazing but not out of the box instantly. Sure, build in IR can be used in FOH situation, but when I can use better one it starts to sound amazing. A quick tip from me. 😃
Aaah, I forgot - update the firmware to get better tones!
As usual, budget gear being held back by the speaker choice.. _they cant keep getting away with this!_
Yes this ^
I have the Dual Wreck.
Built in IR is decent. Works fine for live scenarios through FOH.
However... I've been running it through my valve amp as a preamp and HOLY MOLY it makes my tiny little fender valve sound like an actual dual rectifier.
Overall- great on its own, but elite when through an amp.
For what it's worth, my thoughts are, how much I sincerely appreciate your video content!
Thanks, that really means a lot!
Came for the tonez, stayed for the chops!
Been waiting for this
i boost the dual wreck with a king in yellow, and it sounds like it’s coming outta of a engl xxl cab because the engl cab loader is so amazing!
Would also love to hear these through a real cab!
For live use absolutely convincing!
Played a dual wreck live direct through a PA the other day.
Honestly couldn't tell the difference between it and an actual dual rectifier mic'd up.
At home I plugged it into a neutral small valve amp I have and cranked it and it sounded incredible. If I ever 'need an amp' to play, I'll take my small valve amp with the DW as its preamp but going direct is fine.
I have the v550
My thoughts:
1. Do the firmware update, it sounds much better
2. I wish I could load my own ir ,the stock one is ok ,but when you run an external ir it sounds much better
3. The boost is great if you have the gain on the drive low , ie around 9 or 10 o’clock . Turns it from a rock crunch to a high gain tone
I have The 550 and Dual Rec. They sound excellent in the clean channel of my Fireball 100. Very usable tones with further enhancement by my EQ and effects in the loop. I actually prefer these to my BEOD and Revv G4.
Finaly !! Thanks
WTH! This has no right to sound that good holy molly, it's going to be perfect as a preamp through the power section of my tube amp!
I wish someone would
Do a video on all the pedals that are based off a certain amp against each other run through a cheap solid state amp and see which one can sound the closed to whatever amp they are based on.
Great video! Nice guitar!!! Wich you tested is the most realistic to the Marshall one?
Liked the review but have to know if you used the latest firmware updates or if these were just straight from the box as the Anderson music review on the whole range seemed to put them all in a much better light.
I used the latest fw
New drinking game....take a shot every time he says FUN
Sounds like fun!
Or “great”
Finally. I’m poor RN, could You capture these and put on Mvave Blackbox? I have My OwnHammer IRs ready to sustain!
That 550 was my favorite, this inside an LS2 mixing some HM-2 must sound killer. Unless we have access to a Lightlaerm Medusa or DunnEffects Deathknob…
A demo od the LTD BK600 maybe? :) Do you like it?
That schecter is awesome! Did it come with one pickup or did you change it?
It's stock
They sound great. A little more work left on the video to properly compare them to UA. Why on earth did they use a Mini USB on the back? C'mon TC, buy new connectors.
I had the Ampworx 800 an the 45. They were cool. But than I got the UAFX Lion and it blew me away. In my opinion these Ampworx pedals are absolutely no comparison to the UAFX stuff.
Hey man can you make a tutorial how you load your OwnHammer IRs? I use the Pulse plugin but there are so many IRs on the package I bought I dont understand anything especially with the Hz. And most of the time they sound Fizzy. I use a jcm 800 studio
How are you recording these guitars? It sounds like one recording split into 2 channels (left and right) and a widener on them or something... Please explain.
Double tracked. One left, one right
I went with the TC Electronic JIMS 800 pedal over the UAFX stuff simply because I don't like being tied to an app to do deep editing, especially when apps end up being taken off online stores, or become obsolete to operating systems etc. No thank you. Also, for other cab sims I can just run it into any IR loading pedal or like me, a HX Effects for other IR's, stereo output, and custom IR's.
Do the pedals save your settings for when you switch to the 2nd channel or do you have to change everything each time you switch over. Would you need to have two pedals to keep the settings the same for each channel?
Yes they do save your previous setting when you switch channels.
Can the IR be changed? Also, why not going through a poweramp to check that as well?
@@woochyna no, IR is fixed, you can check my other comment about my feelings playing it through power amp
@@ChristopherOrz You can use a external IR pedal (Torpedo CAB, Mooer, etc)
@@VelhosNovos Yeah, I'm aware of that, but I think it would be nice to be able to change the IR on the pedal itself thus eliminating the need to have an extra pedal (IR loader). Also a DI on top of an ABY if you want to use IE as well... or even go through an amp's FX loop/poweramp. The direct output the pedal has is literally just in case someone's desperate, which is a shame as it's basically useless in a live situation and also forcing you to reconsider your ampless rig and pedalboard space.
@@ChristopherOrz Alright, read it. Thanks for the clarification!
🤘🏽🤘🏽
The Dual Wreck and 550 are definitely better sounding than UA's Knuckles and Anti (IMO, ofc). Not because they sound more realistic or anything, it's just that the Dual Wreck and 550 sound more mix-ready. Some people don't prefer mix-ready sounding amp sims and IRs tho. UA doesn't have a JCM800 pedal so there's nothing to compare the Jims 800 to.
Could you start doing some more lead demos?
I've been sprinkling more leads through my demos recently. I also want to do that more!
@ That's exactly why I intended this comment! The leads always show a different perspective of any music related product and it also sounds good when you do it! Keep it that way bro!
@john_sandilau thanks!
The 800 is the thickest and punchiest.
Yeah with boost on it punches
The riffs you did on the 550 it was meant to be on the dual
The 800 sounds really good, captures the spirit of my vintage 800 combo. Also worth noting, I will never buy another UA product because of their needlessly Using their corporate platform to spout off about cultural issues.
Hebben pedalen als deze nog wel zin als je voor hetzelfde geld ook tonex one hebt?
It's a different approach so it depends on what you need
TBH, I like the sound of the TC 550 one better. Money aside.
JIMS800 was the best, dual had a noticable hiss and just didn't like the 550. Wouldn't buy any but the 800 sounded the best.
What model is that Schecter?
PT Black Ops. I recently reviewed it on the channel
Maybe save up for a Theta and be done with it. Rectifier sounded Ass, garbage Wow! I can see and feel You disappointment and I was kinda bated for it was not a shootout. I’m assuming UA for 250$ More or 399$ Asking I would pray does better. 550 and the Dual Wreck sounded weak, Digital, and lifeless as Well as the 550, at least You were able to dial in.
Lets see a comparison video. The question Is Ampworx better than UA was never answered - this is essentially an ampworx demo video.
This video sucked. I thought he would do a comparison with the UA counterparts.
OF COURSE they are
not.