Be Careful of Overfilling your Hydraulic Fluid

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  • @BradMyers
    @BradMyers Рік тому +22

    Does Kubota offer any dye to be able to see the level easier, especially for us with older eyes?

    • @chucks4328
      @chucks4328 Рік тому +2

      John Deere mt3668. I wouldn't recommend using it if your tractor is still under warranty. It won't hurt it but Kubota will say it did to avoid paying.

    • @hugostiglitz8465
      @hugostiglitz8465 Рік тому +6

      They should've made the stick portion if the dipstick black so that it can be easily seen.

    • @Thecowboy1950
      @Thecowboy1950 Рік тому +1

      John Deere has a dye

    • @jimmie7520
      @jimmie7520 Рік тому +5

      Take flat paper towel drag ur dip stick across it slowly and u will see the Utd level ..70 yrs old same problem could not see on dip stick fluid so clear …makes u feel dump first you do it for not thinking of ur self …hope this helps

    • @danstevens2204
      @danstevens2204 Рік тому +1

      @@jimmie7520 was about to write the same comment apart from being 70 👍🏻

  • @donutman3089
    @donutman3089 Рік тому +6

    Surely there's a drain plug where you could drain a little of it, Neil. Sticking and wiping the dipstick will take forever to get the level back to specs. (grinz)

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren Рік тому +3

    Exasperated some of the leaking? Perhaps exacerbated? :)

  • @btsllc9676
    @btsllc9676 Рік тому +8

    Neil, sending a big thank you to your parts department. Very courteous, patient, and knowledgable. Received the exact part and installed in an hour with the tractor up and going. This is one reason I order from Messick's instead of my nearest Kubota dealer.

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому +3

      I bought a set of pallet forks from Messick's about a year ago since my dealer couldn't seem to get me any. I had them in a week, and I'm in Idaho, they shipped them to a Fedex warehouse, and all I had to do was simply drive over to the warehouse and pick them up....Fedex warehouse guy was nice enough to load them onto my trailer with their forklift....definitely highly recommend Messicks...even if you don't live in a state that they have a store in, they're extremely helpful.

  • @mr.e.chemist9750
    @mr.e.chemist9750 Рік тому +3

    Yes, that is exacerbating, but not necessarily exasperating!

    • @kylerayk
      @kylerayk Рік тому

      I caught that too. Neil likes to use agronomic instead of ergonomic when describing how easy it is to reach controls, etc. on tractors.

  • @lmm2013
    @lmm2013 Рік тому +7

    When I get a dipstick that's hard to read I'll line the end up with a paper towel and touch it to the towel. You should be able to see how tall the wet spot is, not perfect but it will get you close

    • @comlbbeau
      @comlbbeau Рік тому +2

      Yep, that's the best way I know to ensure a proper level. Blot the stick against the paper towel.

    • @Carknocker001
      @Carknocker001 Рік тому

      Terrific idea!

    • @richschmitt4621
      @richschmitt4621 Рік тому +1

      Use the blue shop towels, like in the video. Since clean oil drips off a dipstick quickly: take the dipstick out, lay it flat on top of a piece of blue towel on the palm of your hand. Fold the towel over the dipstick and then unfold it. The dark oil stain next to the dipstick shows you the exact amount you have.

  • @scrappydappy2827
    @scrappydappy2827 Рік тому +7

    Great info Neil. I can’t stand the hydraulic sight bulb that Kubota used on some of the l series tractors. It’s hard to tell when it needs fluid.

    • @wallacehenry5127
      @wallacehenry5127 Рік тому

      Same with b series

    • @JimPriest
      @JimPriest Рік тому

      Amen. I stare at it - and always wonder. Is it high? Is it low? Horrible horrible design. Give me a dipstick!

  • @kibbeystovall7546
    @kibbeystovall7546 Рік тому +1

    Love what you do in these videos, but the word you were looking for was "exacerbated" in describing how the problem was made worse....

  • @claytonkeeney8911
    @claytonkeeney8911 Рік тому +1

    Wow, under 3 min, might be a first

  • @boomerau
    @boomerau Рік тому +1

    my tractor has a glass. easy to spot the level with a hand pump and watching it (and watching and watching and watching....) the problem is every attachment and even the 3 point at different heights changes the level - buckets, backhoes, grapples, height of 3pt implement, etc. if filled to "right" height it is unhappy when working and needs more fluid but change configuration and it is unhappy it has too much - ugh

  • @snymat_68
    @snymat_68 Рік тому +2

    Neil, is there a recommended due for hydraulic fluid to aid in seeing it? My tractor (non Kubota) has a sight glass instead of a dipstick and it is impossible to know if it's under or over filled.

  • @mattkraus406
    @mattkraus406 Рік тому +1

    Love my BX-22, that tractor is a beast! Hate where the hydraulic oil fill plug is, hard to get back on without kid size hands.

  • @dalemyers3945
    @dalemyers3945 Рік тому +1

    Kubota should have a better dip stick, something painted a flat black with hatch marks. I have 2 Kubotas that use the same hydraulic oil and is very hard to see the stick especially when you are older.

  • @AnomadAlaska
    @AnomadAlaska Рік тому +1

    Is there some kind of dye you could safely add to the oil? My tractor's dipstick was dry when it was delivered. Not buying from them again...

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому +1

      Hope you checked other stuff besides just the hydraulic fluid level LOL. Just about every lug nut on the wheels wasn't torqued on my BX2680....engine oil level was fine, coolant was fine, but the front axle and hydraulic fluids were low.

  • @JohnWilson-ql8ks
    @JohnWilson-ql8ks Рік тому +1

    I have to agree with the other comments, I bought a very old Cub Cadet SC-2400 tractor and they God bless them had the upper hood that I couldn't find any where else shipped to San Antonio Tx. and got it in one piece. thanks guys for the great service.

  • @jessevadney9458
    @jessevadney9458 16 днів тому

    I. Made my own dip stick out of a wooden dowl and painted it black so i could see oil level for front axle

  • @usmarshall336
    @usmarshall336 Рік тому +1

    Can you add any type of dye to that to be able to see the oil where it's at on a dipstick ? I've heard of some companies actually having a the dipstick a different color to where they can be able to see the oil on the dipstick

  • @rox9975
    @rox9975 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, finally subscribed 😊

  • @robertbloomquistsr6351
    @robertbloomquistsr6351 Рік тому +1

    I saw somewhere that there is a red dye for hydraulic fluid for just that reason. Maybe it was "Tractor Time with Tim".

    • @Doug-yp2xy
      @Doug-yp2xy 3 місяці тому

      I have this dye, you can get it at a naps store

  • @bryanmccallum4614
    @bryanmccallum4614 Рік тому +1

    Is there something that can be put in the oil to make it easier to see? ?

  • @dr2casto
    @dr2casto День тому

    I recently experienced a Hydro loss of power and my steering system it just got real slow and sluggish. I replaced the pump given that my tractor is a 2006 model. I figured it was time for a pump anyway. Long story short, it took a while to bleed the air out of the system, but it worked again to repair the steering but now my tractor is weaker and slower. What should I consider doing next to improve operation to prior performance? Just seems sluggish.

  • @paulmollise1856
    @paulmollise1856 Рік тому +1

    Overfilled can be just as bad as not enough, overfilling can cause cavitation in the system

    • @lcee6592
      @lcee6592 Рік тому

      Cavitation is a condition that a pump can have under certain operating conditions. Usually from an inadequate supply of liquid on the suction side or, too high of head pressure on the discharge side. Over speeding a pump can also cause cavitation. Over filling the hydraulic fluid in the tractor is highly unlikely going to cause cavitation in a tractor pump(s).

  • @ThomasLips
    @ThomasLips Рік тому +1

    I'm not sure which other Kubota models employee the sight glass, but my l2501 combined with clear udt can be some fun😉

    • @mikef1570
      @mikef1570 Рік тому +1

      I unhook my backhoe all the time and loose fluid, that sight glass is worthless. I’ve found in need to have somone watch the glass while I run the loader all the way up then you can see the level drop. Dumb ass design.

  • @Kubotajoesfarm
    @Kubotajoesfarm Рік тому +1

    So I always use Kubota hyd. fluid, but you are right, it is next to impossible to accurately see the level on the dipstick. Do you have any suggestions on how to avoid this visibilty issue?

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому

      Add food coloring maybe? Not sure if that's something that could be done, I mean they add dye to transmission fluid to make it red, so I don't know why it couldn't be done to the hydraulic oil. They add dye to diesel fuel for "offroad" diesel, so I'm sure a dye could be put in hydraulic fluid to more easily see it on the dipstick.

  • @davidgroff3355
    @davidgroff3355 Місяць тому

    What's the correct way to check the level? Cold ? Putting dip dipstick in a few times when cold? Thanks Neil 😊

    • @MessicksEquip
      @MessicksEquip  Місяць тому

      The correct way is to simply be consistent with whatever you choose so the conditions are the same each time and you'd notice a leak or consumption

  • @alexxiv14
    @alexxiv14 Рік тому +1

    when checking the fluid level of the tractor with say a loader attached or other hydraulics should the hydraulic cylinders be retracted or extended my understanding is that on hst models these share the same revivor and depending on the attachment extended or closed could be a significant difference in volume in the cylinders?

    • @jaxturner7288
      @jaxturner7288 Рік тому +1

      Read the owners manual, everything with cylinders will have a “parked” or “maintenance” position and the fluid should be checked in that configuration for the reason you mentioned.
      Most often it’s checked with all cylinders retracted but there are some that should be centered or in a particular position when checking the fluid level. 👍

  • @blankblank224
    @blankblank224 Рік тому +1

    Wouldn’t matt black solve the dip stick issue?

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому

      Definitely would help. The newer BX models have a yellow plastic dipstick...still isn't any help trying to see the fluid level LOL. I've thought about painting mine black or gray.

  • @jaasx
    @jaasx Рік тому

    Should have talked about oil dye. In a tractor site glass you can't tell how much oil you have unless the line is actually in the window (which it often isn't, let's be honest. The world ain't flat). 1/2 tablespoon of dye and 12 gallons of oil is now a nice, very visible red.

  • @sparkplug0000
    @sparkplug0000 Рік тому

    Yep, it’s hydraulic fluid, specifically designed to be incompressible, designed to “push”, so it’s going to do exactly that when it expands.

  • @wildbill23c
    @wildbill23c Рік тому

    Wonder if the breather was clogged up? Being that old of a machine its quite possible. Although for being a 20+ year old machine that tractor looks to be in really good shape, at least the paint isn't pink, so it must have been kept indoors.
    My aunt had a VW Beetle towed into the dealership where the customer had hydrolocked the engine. Turned out every time she would fill the car up with gas, she'd add a quart of oil to the engine....the crank case was filled completely to the oil fill cap of oil...several gallons of oil drained out late, and the car started and was fine LOL....overfilling things is often worse than being underfilled LOL.

  • @SpartanZapp
    @SpartanZapp Рік тому

    Deere offers a dye to make their hydraulic fluid colored.. I'm sure others have dye that makes it easier to see that's compatible with Kubota fluids.

  • @Shane_O.5158
    @Shane_O.5158 Рік тому

    we had that problem Niel with a sightglass, why don't Kubota put a dye in it.

  • @richardbrookins5406
    @richardbrookins5406 Рік тому

    I wish Kubota would put a colorant in the UDT2.

  • @keithrayeski6417
    @keithrayeski6417 Рік тому

    Give yer stick a couple taps with a grinder wheel and you’ll be able to see it a bit better.

  • @amywright2243
    @amywright2243 Рік тому

    Hope your employee with an injured foot has been healing.

  • @kylerayk
    @kylerayk Рік тому

    In the owners defense, it's not exactly easy to see the fluid line on the shiny silver dipsticks.

  • @darrell3927
    @darrell3927 Рік тому

    Always enjoyed three minute Thursdays. Thanks Neil.

  • @jimmcknight3021
    @jimmcknight3021 Рік тому

    I heard that Kubota used a dye for their hydraulic oil.

  • @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849

    Outstanding, Neill! Not having owned any other brand besides Kubota, does anyone else colorize their fluid?

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому

      Only fluid I know of is automatic transmission fluid that is dyed red....and offroad diesel is dyed red as well. Other than that everything else is pretty much clear, with the exception of the growing number of antifreeze types.

  • @veteranprecision6532
    @veteranprecision6532 Рік тому

    Say it's just a hair over the hash marks on the dip stick on. 2021 BX2680? Is that horrible? Overfilled a little with the filter change, as it was pretty low. Thought I only put in a little, but it was enough to bring it to level and be just a little over. I don't really want to open the drain plug just to try letting a small amount out, I've tried a metal fluid suction device to little effect. Other tips?

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому

      Not terrible. Depends on what your definition of "hair over" is though LOL. The fluid level on my BX2680 is maybe a 32nd of an inch over the top of the hash marks...and it don't seem to go up any when it heats up so I'm fine with it....next time I change it though, I will watch the level more closely as I refill it. Being over by a tiny bit like that isn't going to hurt anything, being over by a quart, or several quarts is a different story though....that's when you start blowing out seals.

  • @matthewmurray5956
    @matthewmurray5956 Рік тому

    Neil where is the shop that you work out of a live in Hartly Delaware and would like to stop by and check out your lineup of equipment. Thanks
    Matt

    • @MessicksEquip
      @MessicksEquip  Рік тому

      Mount Joy, PA. If it suits you, we have a huge open house next week.

  • @TheTradosaurus
    @TheTradosaurus Рік тому +2

    Get the JD hydraulic oil dye. MT3668. Only check hydraulic dye level with all implements at ground level and tractor turned off

  • @johnhershey4010
    @johnhershey4010 Рік тому

    I miss your 3 min Thursdays.

  • @TheCC89
    @TheCC89 Рік тому

    Only tip I've been told that helps you see hydraulic oil level on Kubota's dip sticks is to take a hack saw and score "X's" or hash marks on the dip stick. This helps the oil stick and stay on the dip stick so it is easier to read. Still not easy, but easier...
    This should be a part upgrade on future Kubota's and is one of my biggest complaints I have with mine. I never feel comfortable that I know the exact level of one of the most important fluid lvls on my tractor...

    • @circuitbreaker9001
      @circuitbreaker9001 Рік тому

      If this helps I have read if you lay the stick on a paper towel you can see the wet area. I have not tried this yet but plan on doing it.

    • @TheCC89
      @TheCC89 Рік тому

      @@circuitbreaker9001 It does, but still takes 10 or so attempts to get a general idea of level. The hash marks and a paper towel is the way to go.
      The L3901 hydraulic level can fluctuate A LOT if not on Perfectly level ground. Not sure about other machines.

  • @dieselwelds8645
    @dieselwelds8645 Рік тому +1

    All gearboxes should have breather tubes in some shape or fashion. If a gearbox cannot breath then it will find a seal somewhere to leak.
    I have to change the rear main seal on my 2001 MF1225. And probably the mid PTO seal. I paid stupid tax trying to rebuild my water pump last year. It held but recently found it was leaking again. I even wore gloves and NEVER touched the seal nor let oil get on it. Cost $200 to rebuild. Cost $400 to replace with new - always pay more to fix it right the second time 🤦

  • @markcole6475
    @markcole6475 Рік тому

    So most all kubota tractors and lawn mowers you check hydrostat fluid level with engine off?

    • @wildbill23c
      @wildbill23c Рік тому

      Yes. With my lawn tractor you ain't checking the fluid level in the hydrostatic transaxle with it running, heck you can't even get to it with the battery in place...even if you could you'd have quite the challenge as the hydro fan is on the top of the transaxle HAHA!!
      But, yes, check the fluid level with all your implements/loader sitting on the ground, and tractor level.

    • @markcole6475
      @markcole6475 Рік тому

      @@wildbill23c ok…wasn’t sure cause like automatic transmissions ( pretty much a hydraulic pump) needs to be checked with engine running!

  • @handymandp1
    @handymandp1 Рік тому

    Is it better to check the fluid when the fluid is hot or cold?

    • @MessicksEquip
      @MessicksEquip  Рік тому

      does not matter, just be consistent when you check it so you know if its leaking. The heat will change the level.

  • @DJC995
    @DJC995 Рік тому

    Nice One Neil Thanks again

  • @daveschmidt5713
    @daveschmidt5713 Рік тому

    Nice reminder.

  • @dieselwelds8645
    @dieselwelds8645 Рік тому

    Neal, several years ago I restored a Kubota L225. Even had paint color matched at PPG. I sold it to a buddy, but if you're interested I can share photos of the end product