Kung-Fu Kenny sitting all day will get u spine, hormonal and circulatory problems before you reach 45. This lifestyle is actually hazardous imo. Id never wanna earn the SD salary if it meant sacrificing my health and pretty nuch licing in seclusion
I have been doing this for close to 20 years and I don't make anywhere near 200K. BUT, I have also chosen to work for small local companies that don't sell software. I find that the jobs where I am the only developer\database engineer to be so much more relaxing and stress free because nobody else can argue with me on how I am doing things. I have been given project assignments where they expect me to get it done in 4 weeks but I can get it done in just a couple of days. There have been times when I contacted my boss while working from home and telling him I have nothing to do and he was perfectly fine with it. I was salaried and still got paid. I sat there and just monitored my work email for weeks while at the same time playing video games. I absolutely love it..
The 200k is also for the big companies, for some reason people only think about those. I would much rather have a lower salary and be one of the smartest guys in the room, than be in a company full of geniuses that makes me feel dumb.
@@sorvex9 that s not a good mindset. If you re the smartest in the room you re blocked to a certain level. If you re surrounded by people smarter than you you will continue to learn and advance.
@@PopaRobertFlorian Wrong, surrounding yourself with people that are basically better than you in large corporations is horrible, there's always people that can replace you, and always people that are doing your job way better
@Tee You get fired, that's what's wrong with it. Never go into a job where every single other person is better than you, you might like being challenged but you want be challenged every single day for the rest of the time you're working there?
@WhiteHatHacking It's so easy to catch though if you're using an IDE and not a notepad to code. The worst bugs are logic bugs buried within loads of different classes and functions. I only see first year students complain about semicolons.
I always loved computers and still love. Computer science is not for everyone, I spent years at university trying to make excuses not to quit. The moment I quit I felt free. It's not about whether you can or can't do it. You need to love it otherwise is a pain that keeps growing on you. Good videos you're a nice guy. Remember people follow your heart not money.
Lorenzo Stewart Yeah, following your heart doesn’t pay the bills and doesn’t give you ownership over your time. Do things you and everyone else hates = you’ll get paid $$
@How To unless someone automates website creation and upkeep then... yeah. Although is it as valuable as software dev ? No, as there are more people with knowledge on web dev.
@@SmokieJay thats exactly what I started coding for, im slowly starting to get interested bc you start to notice the ingenuity behind our daily items. Like whenever i use my phone or pc or swipe a card im thinking about how it was coded and realize that what im learning basically runs the world.
These are so accurate! Love that you're being honest with it. My biggest insecurity is the competition, especially if i want to apply for job at other companies. im not really good with programming interviews. Like, i can code on my own, but when people are watching, i got so anxious lolll
Always learning is a pro for me and is one of the main reason i want to become a software engineer. I have an insatiable appetite for learning and have a job that challenges me and allows me to continue learning is perfect for me.
@@galaxygkm4696 same that’s my biggest fear, I don’t want to go to university and then realize I actually don’t like it as much as I thought I would. It’s scary
Same same. I would die repeating the same exact task every day for the rest of my life…. I know the pressure of always having to learn is a hassle but in the end it’s so worth it!
My biggest complaint as a software engineer is actually the legacy code bit. The issue is that most teams have the mentality "don't fix what isn't broken", then 5 years later when competitors are bigger/faster, then folks decide to dust off their spiderweb code. My advice to young engineers is to take small wins where possible and push for innovation when you see great value.
almost everytime i watch one of your vids, i find some new resource. this time is was levels.fyi. good job man. i see your backgrounds changing up too (more depth, colors, etc.). keep it up, and stay healthy!
I have been in tech for 15 years and have spent time at a help desk, coding, as a network engineer, and systems admin/engineer and this list is the same across the field. Those salaries come with something, no one is going to pay you well and not expect excellence. Depending on the role that could mean traveling or being on call. Traveling while it sounds fun it becomes overwhelming at some point. Even working as a tech lead or other management position the business side is just as taxing. I say all of that to say do not take your personal time for granted. Having personal time is far more important than an inflated salary. It may sound easy for me to say that having been in the industry a long time. Although you need money to live don't neglect your personal well being.
i think it's funny how "having insurance", "parental leave", "paid holidays" is something special for these jobs .... It's just something im too unamerican to understand....
It's really weird that insurance, parental leave or holidays can be unpaid. And we are talking about a country that is considered to be highly developed.
America believes in personal choices, its not an employers responsibility to pay for you to have children nor to take care of you when you get sick. I guess I'm too american to understand socialism
You forgot to mention the opportunity to work remotely. I love to work while traveling to new countries. it may be fewer jobs like that, but even thinking about this is making me feel I am in the right way.
My friend was an editor for a NBC in Los Angeles. He got paid a lot of money and he called it the golden handcuffs, because he felt trapped in that job.
He could easily cut down on expenses, save, and invest if he was serious about leaving the job. These companies also keep their employees due to consumerism. Once people make above $100k, they want the fanciest lifestyle. Definitely a self induced problem he could get out of if he wanted to
CONS: 1. You'll have to grow a beard 2. You'll have to dress like a teenager even in your late 30s 3. You'll have to interact with narcisissts all day 4. In interviews you'll have to pretend like you don't wish for the sweet release of death.
i am gonna try to become a software engineer because: I can do something and in the end i created something Its logic and imma work with PC, I like that Job Security Pay is very good, its so good that you really can get wealthy. I want that. but sitting all the time and looking at a screen may annoy me after many years of work.
I became a software developer to help my family, many of us want to help our families and software developing is been really stress heavy. But I would do anything for my family
Watched this and your other video (5 things i wish i knew...) and it helped understand it more. I've always loved technology and software engineering has always stood out to me. I didnt know what I wanted to major in a while back, but I'm gonna jump into Software Engineering. I already have my gen ed courses complete!
I was going to start school for software developer but was also wanting to be a engineer but they didn’t have that course at my community college. Are they the same thing kind of or would I have to get 2 separate degrees
Great video. Love your channel. Agree with all the pros and cons! One additional con I would add is that being a software engineer means you have put up a lot of time polishing your technical skills at the detriment of your social skills. Its a tradeoff since time is limited. You won't have as many friends, social activities, dating pool non existent etc. So I recommend that once you are happy with your technical skills, do spend some time building the social skills as well. Get a part time job in sales, attend meetups, pick up hobbies that require human interaction. In the end, having functional social skills will let you advance your tech career as well.
I sit all say on my computer doing something, and this seems the perfect career to choose. I am a beginner and just started some python and its not easy but for me its not hard either. I could do this 12 hours a day and not get bored. The best part i love doing this and i probably will.
My first dev job was one of the hardest things I’ve done(switching from policing career) but once inside it 6 months I was getting assaulted by recruiter messages lol
Just found your channel. I’m working for a FAANG now in a non-SWE technical role (can write advanced SQL in my sleep) and exploring making the switch to software engineering. Really appreciate the content you have here. BTW, nice hat! Ride high, Mustangs!
Thanks alot for the key details! I'm starting a software development course and I'm absolutely loving every minute of it. Now I can face on this career w/ pride 😁
You have summed this up nicely. I've been a software engineer for over 20+ years and coached and mentored numerous software developers. I now make similar videos helping the community
Lots of people try to get into SWE purely for the money which isn't a terrible plan but if you don't truly love what you're getting into then it's never going to work out. Kind of a Golden rule to finding something you wanna do - you gotta love doing it lol.
Wow legit me I’m working as a bank teller and I want to get into computer science. Your videos have helped me understand more of the environment! Thank you.
The meaningful work part. I work for a fintech company as a software developer and yeah it's cool knowing banks and other financial institutions are going to use the software products I had a hand in.
Salary will depend on country, heavily and in some countries software engineer doesn't have this insane salary/year. e.g you can land in jobs with less than 10k a year and they might even have probation periods... Don't trust the inflated salaries that are usually posted on inet. That's for people that will watch this vid from other country other than America.
Even for the US the major players are outliers. Many software DEV positions giving you waaaaay less than the Googles, Facebooks & Microsofts of the world. It even varies by living area, with Silicon Valley taking center stage in both wages AND living costs. And of course, as ya said ... international wages for software development wouldn't necessarily be that high ... but that's cause there's no Google in France or Germany for example. :-) MS's head office here for instance doesn't necessarily have any core development going on. It's mostly a sales office, so nobody here gets 200K/Year. Not even close!
@@marcw6875 True! But, it is worth noting that a frugal developer in the bay area can walk away each year with more invested savings than a developer in a low cost of living area. But it may be hard to be frugal in the Bay Area because everything costs so much (:
I'm the kind of person that gets working by being in that environment, so having to go to a workplace is actually what I prefer and having my first job be stay at home (covid) actually sucks for me, especially since I have to do uni work, work work and play at the same desk.
i can see why you need to go in. if you're especially a huge company it's really important that your employees are comfortable with eachother and are able to connect with others. i've been doing online software engineering at my university and on top of just the general difficulty of some of the classes, i realized that staying on top of your schedule takes a TON of energy and planning within itself, on top of that it's very difficult to connect with others because it has to be INTENTIONAL. almost all of my college friends are just accidental as it should be, you just strive a convo with someone and it could turn into an awesome friendship/study partner but online you lose this natural feeling of connecting with others. anyways just my 2 cents
Also, I would never consider always learning a bad thing at all. Never even crossed my mind. I think it’s the best thing about being a software engineer 👌🏾
I’m graduating this year. Personally compared to other fields (my friends are in) cs seems like easy mode for job hunt. I’m constantly spammed on my linkedin and I’m not even done with school
To be honest I clicked on the video mentally ready to question my career choice as I gear up for my first software engineering job in two weeks but I feel pretty confident now. The pros definitely outweigh the cons
My company also has 10 levels. I started in the 3rd level, because I had a bachelors degree. There exists level 1 and 2 in my company, but are pretty uncommon. They are the starting points for people that have a lower degree that just done their internships and trainings. I guess that's the same for Google, etc. and the reason they aren't listed, as a college degree is usually required.
Pros 1) Salary - A lot. 2) Benefits - insurance, medical etc. 3) Free food, filming your own coding videos. 4) Smart co-workers 5) Job security 6) Your influence on others. 7) Work for yourself. 8) Free lance works Cons 1) Salary - 'If you work yourself' then this might be a problem 2) Competition - a lot. 3) Unnecessary commute 4) Sit all day 5) Working with old tech 6) Always learning (Pro and con)
Hey Sam, thanks for the video. I agree with all the points you mentioned, specially the "always learning" definition, which is good and dangerous at the same time lol Keep doing your great job, buddy. Cheers 🤙🏽
Cons: sitting all day in front of a computer with all the frustration related to the job because new code never works on the first try. First time in my life I neeed to follow a daily routine of sleeping well and working out. Also I can’t spend much time in front of the computer when the day is over. If I did otherwise I’d go nuts.
In my poor country, i finished law and started working as a lawyer but the salary is not close to a programmer, so better for something that's more paid.
instagram.com/keep_on_coding
If you work for yourself you can open a solo 401k and put up to 56k in there
@@michaelsemper1044 is doing okey
Pros
0:24 - #1 - Salary
3:16 - #2 - Benefits
4:44 - #3 - Smart Coworkers
5:45 - #4 - Job Security
6:25 - #6 - Meaningful Work
6:59 - #7 - Ability to Work for Yourself
Cons
7:48 - #1 - Salary (when working for yourself)
9:15 - #2 - Competition
10:02 - #3 - Unnecessary Commute
10:31 - #4 - Sit All Day
11:18 - #5 - Old Tech
12:01 - #6 (or Pro #8) - Always Learning
Damn man these cons don’t seem that bad honestly. Things could always be worse. But I do understand it would get tiring overtime
Sit all day and always learning doesnt seem like cons to me
prod. Saint OJ !p
Kung-Fu Kenny sitting all day will get u spine, hormonal and circulatory problems before you reach 45. This lifestyle is actually hazardous imo. Id never wanna earn the SD salary if it meant sacrificing my health and pretty nuch licing in seclusion
Additional cons: no social life
A cool visual effect for this video would have been changing your background lighting from green when discussing pros to red when discussing cons
Yeah that would have been cool!
Genius!
Yess
I have been doing this for close to 20 years and I don't make anywhere near 200K. BUT, I have also chosen to work for small local companies that don't sell software. I find that the jobs where I am the only developer\database engineer to be so much more relaxing and stress free because nobody else can argue with me on how I am doing things. I have been given project assignments where they expect me to get it done in 4 weeks but I can get it done in just a couple of days. There have been times when I contacted my boss while working from home and telling him I have nothing to do and he was perfectly fine with it. I was salaried and still got paid. I sat there and just monitored my work email for weeks while at the same time playing video games. I absolutely love it..
The 200k is also for the big companies, for some reason people only think about those. I would much rather have a lower salary and be one of the smartest guys in the room, than be in a company full of geniuses that makes me feel dumb.
@@sorvex9 that s not a good mindset. If you re the smartest in the room you re blocked to a certain level. If you re surrounded by people smarter than you you will continue to learn and advance.
@@PopaRobertFlorian Wrong, surrounding yourself with people that are basically better than you in large corporations is horrible, there's always people that can replace you, and always people that are doing your job way better
@Tee You get fired, that's what's wrong with it. Never go into a job where every single other person is better than you, you might like being challenged but you want be challenged every single day for the rest of the time you're working there?
how did you find these companies, and how many do you work for?
Great content. I like how you get right into it without lingering on for a minute or two like so many other channels.
Thanks man! I try to avoid adding too much fluff in my videos.
Keep On Coding much appreciated!
Honestly that's every single video on UA-cam lol people like to ramble first but yes this gentlemen gets to the point!
@@jinouji6025 not all of them tbh
yes that's a Short and sweet video 📸
Seriously man I lowkey don't know what to do in life
Same🥺
@@fatimasaleem5315 : (
Rolli Polli I’m thinking bein a software engineer
@@fatimasaleem5315 me too but people make it look like its a trash job
Rolli Polli same man. So do my parents. They tell me how shit it could be.
the missing a semicolon is so accurate
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I don't think I have ever got that error
It definitely triggered some PTSD
I swr
@WhiteHatHacking It's so easy to catch though if you're using an IDE and not a notepad to code. The worst bugs are logic bugs buried within loads of different classes and functions. I only see first year students complain about semicolons.
I always loved computers and still love. Computer science is not for everyone, I spent years at university trying to make excuses not to quit. The moment I quit I felt free. It's not about whether you can or can't do it. You need to love it otherwise is a pain that keeps growing on you.
Good videos you're a nice guy.
Remember people follow your heart not money.
@Lorenzo Stewart FACTS
Lorenzo Stewart Yeah, following your heart doesn’t pay the bills and doesn’t give you ownership over your time.
Do things you and everyone else hates = you’ll get paid $$
@How To unless someone automates website creation and upkeep then... yeah. Although is it as valuable as software dev ? No, as there are more people with knowledge on web dev.
What if you love money ?
@@SmokieJay thats exactly what I started coding for, im slowly starting to get interested bc you start to notice the ingenuity behind our daily items. Like whenever i use my phone or pc or swipe a card im thinking about how it was coded and realize that what im learning basically runs the world.
These are so accurate! Love that you're being honest with it. My biggest insecurity is the competition, especially if i want to apply for job at other companies. im not really good with programming interviews. Like, i can code on my own, but when people are watching, i got so anxious lolll
Always learning is a pro for me and is one of the main reason i want to become a software engineer. I have an insatiable appetite for learning and have a job that challenges me and allows me to continue learning is perfect for me.
Same dude, exactly the same
Same but I’m also scared about possibly losing interests or it being too difficult for me
@@galaxygkm4696 same that’s my biggest fear, I don’t want to go to university and then realize I actually don’t like it as much as I thought I would. It’s scary
Same same. I would die repeating the same exact task every day for the rest of my life…. I know the pressure of always having to learn is a hassle but in the end it’s so worth it!
My biggest complaint as a software engineer is actually the legacy code bit. The issue is that most teams have the mentality "don't fix what isn't broken", then 5 years later when competitors are bigger/faster, then folks decide to dust off their spiderweb code. My advice to young engineers is to take small wins where possible and push for innovation when you see great value.
almost everytime i watch one of your vids, i find some new resource. this time is was levels.fyi. good job man. i see your backgrounds changing up too (more depth, colors, etc.). keep it up, and stay healthy!
That’s awesome Michael! I’m glad I’m able to provide value!
I have been in tech for 15 years and have spent time at a help desk, coding, as a network engineer, and systems admin/engineer and this list is the same across the field. Those salaries come with something, no one is going to pay you well and not expect excellence. Depending on the role that could mean traveling or being on call. Traveling while it sounds fun it becomes overwhelming at some point. Even working as a tech lead or other management position the business side is just as taxing. I say all of that to say do not take your personal time for granted. Having personal time is far more important than an inflated salary. It may sound easy for me to say that having been in the industry a long time. Although you need money to live don't neglect your personal well being.
Thank you for this comment
i think it's funny how "having insurance", "parental leave", "paid holidays" is something special for these jobs .... It's just something im too unamerican to understand....
It's really weird that insurance, parental leave or holidays can be unpaid. And we are talking about a country that is considered to be highly developed.
If my company stops covering these things for me, I can always look for another company. It's not so easy to look for another country.
America believes in personal choices, its not an employers responsibility to pay for you to have children nor to take care of you when you get sick. I guess I'm too american to understand socialism
@@patgraeme775 where i come from the employer is not responsible either
I'd imagine you get taxed less/paid more to compensate
You forgot to mention the opportunity to work remotely.
I love to work while traveling to new countries.
it may be fewer jobs like that, but even thinking about this is making me feel I am in the right way.
Thanks for being real. Your honesty is greatly appreciated.
This was great, THANK YOU!! I love the chill vibe you give, very calming especially to those of us new to the industry.
My friend was an editor for a NBC in Los Angeles. He got paid a lot of money and he called it the golden handcuffs, because he felt trapped in that job.
@Blazing Comet More than likely no one pays as much and maybe his lifestyle was dependent on that.
it's a self induced problem.
He could easily cut down on expenses, save, and invest if he was serious about leaving the job. These companies also keep their employees due to consumerism. Once people make above $100k, they want the fanciest lifestyle. Definitely a self induced problem he could get out of if he wanted to
CONS:
1. You'll have to grow a beard
2. You'll have to dress like a teenager even in your late 30s
3. You'll have to interact with narcisissts all day
4. In interviews you'll have to pretend like you don't wish for the sweet release of death.
well fuck
Is there something you need to get off your chest I would be glad to talk about it
Let it all out
Sper ca ai numai parte de bine in viata frate
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i am gonna try to become a software engineer because:
I can do something and in the end i created something
Its logic and imma work with PC, I like that
Job Security
Pay is very good, its so good that you really can get wealthy. I want that.
but sitting all the time and looking at a screen may annoy me after many years of work.
self discipline will help stay in shape. and i recommend looking into blue glasses lens if looking at a screen bothers you.
If you become a software engineer and manage money even somewhat well you won’t have to work for long lol
I became a software developer to help my family, many of us want to help our families and software developing is been really stress heavy. But I would do anything for my family
I think it really varies from company to company and the exact thing you're working on, as well as the "domain" your company is in.
You explain users the things they want to hear. Great content. Be motivated and never leave making videos. Kudos to you!!!
Thanks! I’m glad I’m providing value to you all!
with seven good seasons of GOT, comes season eight. i died 🤣🤣🤣
rip
@Ali Malik 🤨well, that says a lot about you as a person( and in a very bad way)
lol I heard it and went straight to comments
How the hell don't you have MORE subscribers. Your videos are amazing.
Ah I don't know! Hopefully one day! Thanks for watching!
Your cons are way better than my current jobs pros lol
😂😭
*But moral of the story is, be what you want don’t listen to the internet, continue your journey*
Love the video btw ♥️
Pretty solid advise!
Listen to what pays well.
Watched this and your other video (5 things i wish i knew...) and it helped understand it more. I've always loved technology and software engineering has always stood out to me. I didnt know what I wanted to major in a while back, but I'm gonna jump into Software Engineering. I already have my gen ed courses complete!
How you liking it did you complete it ?
What inspires me the most as a software engineer is the amount of people that will be looking at the feature I am working on. That was spot on!
this was a great video, i’m currently a software engineering major!!
I was going to start school for software developer but was also wanting to be a engineer but they didn’t have that course at my community college. Are they the same thing kind of or would I have to get 2 separate degrees
Great video. Love your channel. Agree with all the pros and cons! One additional con I would add is that being a software engineer means you have put up a lot of time polishing your technical skills at the detriment of your social skills. Its a tradeoff since time is limited. You won't have as many friends, social activities, dating pool non existent etc. So I recommend that once you are happy with your technical skills, do spend some time building the social skills as well. Get a part time job in sales, attend meetups, pick up hobbies that require human interaction. In the end, having functional social skills will let you advance your tech career as well.
Always learning something new from your videos. I really enjoy just learning about computers and programming.
This guy is a Legend
i did security for 12 yrs and now starting college for software development from scratch at age 63 by the time i finish
Super helpful and i like how you delivered it. I felt like you're a friend.. thanks!!
😁😁
Pro - I get to sit behind a computer all day, on my favorite operating system implementing my favorite kernel doing what I love to do :D
I love your content very much. Thanks. Man
I sit all say on my computer doing something, and this seems the perfect career to choose. I am a beginner and just started some python and its not easy but for me its not hard either. I could do this 12 hours a day and not get bored. The best part i love doing this and i probably will.
Pro: work from home
Loved the golden handcuffs analogy. You smashed the cons section. I say it all the time! I did retire though, saved and invested much of it ;)
i knew from the moment i was digging through my dog's poop looking for my car keys i wanted to be a software engineer
Thanks for the insights dude! it's hard to come across with genuine honesty on this videos, but nup, you've naturally got it made.
Man you nailed it! Pretty much sum up all pros and cons of our industry! Good job!
My first dev job was one of the hardest things I’ve done(switching from policing career) but once inside it 6 months I was getting assaulted by recruiter messages lol
Congarts to you, the best programmer to have ever lived just subscribed!!
Just found your channel. I’m working for a FAANG now in a non-SWE technical role (can write advanced SQL in my sleep) and exploring making the switch to software engineering. Really appreciate the content you have here.
BTW, nice hat! Ride high, Mustangs!
Thank you so much. Your video was super helpful with my career journey.
For anyone wondering, the song that's playing between 2:55 - 8:00 is "Dreary Summer" Streambeats by Harris Heller
Thanks alot for the key details! I'm starting a software development course and I'm absolutely loving every minute of it. Now I can face on this career w/ pride 😁
Curious what course did you sign up for? How is it going now, have you started a job as a software engineer
You have summed this up nicely. I've been a software engineer for over 20+ years and coached and mentored numerous software developers. I now make similar videos helping the community
You just earned my respect... I love it!
I have absolutely no interest in starting my own business, so the first con isnt even a concern for me lol
@yeekers exactly that confused me
@yeekers nope 250,000 is what a company gives u but that's not what u receive u forgot about taxes and other stuff u need to pay
@@choalon2381 for example EINSTEIN?! WE ARE NOT A SOCIALIST CHILDSUPPORTCARE COUNTRY, THANK YOU.
Great Content! Thank you 🙏
great advice, thanks for being so blunt.
Appreciate your video!
Great analysis!!!
Thank you for all the information, very helpful.
Lots of people try to get into SWE purely for the money which isn't a terrible plan but if you don't truly love what you're getting into then it's never going to work out. Kind of a Golden rule to finding something you wanna do - you gotta love doing it lol.
Really good video, super clean. Edits are simple, very very informative.
I got a high blood pressure by being a software engineer 😂
Wolf Stop consuming so much salt. 💁🏻♂️
Can i ask! How much is the packing salary @being SE?
How pressuring it is being a software engineer
Francisco Leon 1.5 bar
or switch to red salt/ sea salt?
I subbed keep it up bro
💪🏼
Reppin Cal Poly CS class of '22 here!
Another bonus is that many big tech companies are going remote permanently now; so you can reap the high pay and still live wherever.
OK I'm gonna tell you what's going on. . .
I just discovered your channel.
And it is awesome.
So I subscribed !!!!
Great and informative man. Thanks!
Wow legit me I’m working as a bank teller and I want to get into computer science. Your videos have helped me understand more of the environment! Thank you.
Love this video. New subscriber !!
Amazing Video, Great Info! Thank you
The meaningful work part. I work for a fintech company as a software developer and yeah it's cool knowing banks and other financial institutions are going to use the software products I had a hand in.
The quality of your audio is extensively good and enjoyable to listen! Definitely a Pro ;)
Great video as always, Sam!
Thank you! 🙂
Salary will depend on country, heavily and in some countries software engineer doesn't have this insane salary/year. e.g you can land in jobs with less than 10k a year and they might even have probation periods... Don't trust the inflated salaries that are usually posted on inet.
That's for people that will watch this vid from other country other than America.
Even for the US the major players are outliers. Many software DEV positions giving you waaaaay less than the Googles, Facebooks & Microsofts of the world. It even varies by living area, with Silicon Valley taking center stage in both wages AND living costs.
And of course, as ya said ... international wages for software development wouldn't necessarily be that high ... but that's cause there's no Google in France or Germany for example. :-)
MS's head office here for instance doesn't necessarily have any core development going on. It's mostly a sales office, so nobody here gets 200K/Year. Not even close!
People should also keep in mind that 5 times the salary isn't quite as good if it involves moving somewhere that costs 4 times as much to live. :)
@@marcw6875 True! But, it is worth noting that a frugal developer in the bay area can walk away each year with more invested savings than a developer in a low cost of living area. But it may be hard to be frugal in the Bay Area because everything costs so much (:
I'm the kind of person that gets working by being in that environment, so having to go to a workplace is actually what I prefer and having my first job be stay at home (covid) actually sucks for me, especially since I have to do uni work, work work and play at the same desk.
This was super great. Thank you so much
i can see why you need to go in. if you're especially a huge company it's really important that your employees are comfortable with eachother and are able to connect with others. i've been doing online software engineering at my university and on top of just the general difficulty of some of the classes, i realized that staying on top of your schedule takes a TON of energy and planning within itself, on top of that it's very difficult to connect with others because it has to be INTENTIONAL. almost all of my college friends are just accidental as it should be, you just strive a convo with someone and it could turn into an awesome friendship/study partner but online you lose this natural feeling of connecting with others. anyways just my 2 cents
I’m an outco alum. No wonder why this is my recommended video for today
Also, I would never consider always learning a bad thing at all. Never even crossed my mind. I think it’s the best thing about being a software engineer 👌🏾
I’m graduating this year. Personally compared to other fields (my friends are in) cs seems like easy mode for job hunt. I’m constantly spammed on my linkedin and I’m not even done with school
Always learning is a huge pro for me
Great Content keep up the good work
To be honest I clicked on the video mentally ready to question my career choice as I gear up for my first software engineering job in two weeks but I feel pretty confident now.
The pros definitely outweigh the cons
How's it going so far?
i love maintaining old code and stuff, its like restauration of an old car :)
My company also has 10 levels. I started in the 3rd level, because I had a bachelors degree. There exists level 1 and 2 in my company, but are pretty uncommon. They are the starting points for people that have a lower degree that just done their internships and trainings. I guess that's the same for Google, etc. and the reason they aren't listed, as a college degree is usually required.
Bro your i.g i have doubt n
Good lord I need that song at the end
Pros
1) Salary - A lot.
2) Benefits - insurance, medical etc.
3) Free food, filming your own coding videos.
4) Smart co-workers
5) Job security
6) Your influence on others.
7) Work for yourself.
8) Free lance works
Cons
1) Salary - 'If you work yourself' then this might be a problem
2) Competition - a lot.
3) Unnecessary commute
4) Sit all day
5) Working with old tech
6) Always learning (Pro and con)
Small salaries is what is going on. 15 or 20 years ago Software Engineer were making at least 3 times more than now
thank you ,great knowledge.
I swear I'm actually fucking in love with computer science.
Very informative video!
Hell yeah, let’s go Sam 💪🏼 🔥
This is great. Thank you.
i want 1 of those standing desks. once i'm done with my education i'm definitely investing to get a nice one
Thx for the link to levels.fyi
I start school in January to become a software engineer. Super excited.
Hey Sam, thanks for the video. I agree with all the points you mentioned, specially the "always learning" definition, which is good and dangerous at the same time lol
Keep doing your great job, buddy. Cheers 🤙🏽
Thanks Everton! I’m glad you agree 😄😄
You missed the most important cons: stress, responsability, lack of management.
Yeah I guess those are some cons of EVERY JOB EVER
Man you got me with GoT example 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Subscribed - Man is about to change careers
Cons: sitting all day in front of a computer with all the frustration related to the job because new code never works on the first try. First time in my life I neeed to follow a daily routine of sleeping well and working out. Also I can’t spend much time in front of the computer when the day is over. If I did otherwise I’d go nuts.
You might be able to afford to have your own apartment at those salaries, Sam!
Wow I feel so lucky! Haha
Keep On Coding You are so funny 😂
Not in SF, probably the minimum to buy a reasonable house.
In my poor country, i finished law and started working as a lawyer but the salary is not close to a programmer, so better for something that's more paid.
I always tell my friend No matter what job you have There is no job out there that is easy and perfect there's gonna be a bad part of any job