Note to reviewer do you homework! Volvo puts safety first so in a collision you don’t want an electric steering wheel in case you get pinned under the wheel a manual will allow you to move it out of the way.
I don't believe any Volvos have a motorized steering column. I've read that Volvo made that choice for safety reasons, in the event that the driver needs to be extricated after an accident.
We bought a 2021 xc 90 used with 9k for 71k in 2021. It had a 82k msrp sticker, very nice car, so we are going on our 3rd year ownership with 48k on it. We love the car, the best luxury car. I was thinking about a Mercedes but the treatment I got when I drove my old rav 2012 v6 to the dealership. I left and I paid cash for my Volvo. Recently I bought a xc 60e loaded, Love the radios in these cars and the air suspension. No issues or problems with the cars. Great deal 73 k price tag for 54500. You can find some great deals on these cars with a few miles.
We test drove a 2022 T8 XC60. Had 2000 miles on it . They were asking 59k. But ended buying a 2022 XC90 T6 Polestar with 12k miles. My wife likes the XC90 more. The XC90 has much more leg room in the back. It has a 78655 MSRP and we got it for 55K. I thought that was pretty good price. Plus it still has the free maintenance thru Oct. 2025 and b2b thru Oct. 2026.
The reason I didn't buy the NX or RX, is because in the UK to get the under-thigh-extending support you have to have an RX Takumi... and the Takumi comes with a sunroof (no option to not have the sunroof), and my head hit this sunroof... .... so, what have I just bought? An XC60 T8 Recharge Ultimate.. Maybe you have more flexibility with what options you can get (or not) in North America - over here in the UK there are very few options as the XC60 T8 Recharge Ultimate pretty much comes fully loaded on a take-it-or-leave-it basis! PS like your very clear Volvo reviews so much, I even showed one to my elderly mother (who I think is keen to try out Power mode...)!
This one here is the top trim with all the options, even the $3200 bowers stereo. The base trim for the phev starts at 58k, so exactly where you said you wanted it to be.
I feel like the cowcatcher grill on the NX and the RX is the Lexus attempt at bringing back the Edsel My wife just could not get past it So we got the XC 60 T8 recharge for that and so many other reasons
@@KirkKreifels Wrong. There is no drive shaft to the rear wheels. If the battery is depleted it is front wheel drive. I test drove one with 0% battery and I spun the front wheels accelerating from a stop light. No rear wheel assist.
The thing I don't understand with these PHEVs is, why do they bother making the ICE so complicated. You would think the ICE would just be treated like it's a very simple backup to the electric power unit. I kind of think BMW got it mostly right with the i3 REX except for the fact that the petrol tank was too small. I know that 90% of my driving would be electric with a PHEV. I love the Volvo designs and I'd consider a full XC60 BEV if it wasn't so overpriced. XC40 recharge with the first package is 71k CAD here in Canada. That's a Model Y AWD..... hummmm
I agree. When the ICE acts purely as a generator, you no longer need VVT, ability for high revs or even turbos. A very simple but power dense ICE is the answer. Did you own a REx? That realization came to me during ownership: 24,000 annual miles on 25 gallons gas. We'll see if Mazda's plans for the Wankel rex in their MX30 takes that approach.
@@donswier Good points from you both. The ICE is not a generator, it's a secondary engine that is called in when needed. (I think Mitsubishi may have done something different) And that is where simplicity should be a bonus. I really like(d) the Mazda CX-60 PHEV approach with a simple 4 cylinder naturally aspirated 2,5l ICE working with a decent electric motor. NO turbos or superchargers or whatever to worry about. Also liked their smart arrangement of having the motors inline with clutches so they both feed the gearbox so you always have 4x4. BUT Mazda do not seem to be able to build that complex line-up of components to be consistent. I returned mine after 3 and a half months and a few fix attempts because of a horrible resonance (I assume from the drive train) at 25 - 45 MPH. Lots of other folks with the same issue. Nice idea Mazda but you gotta build it to work. Sadly I think the 'simple' electric motor drives the rear and the ICE drives the front is simpler, albeit not as elegant
The Lexus brand seems very reliable but was passengered in one and the gearbox and engine were so loud. Ride in the UK on our poor roads was also bumpy and noisy. The kit count was impressive however. I like Lexus and Volvo for their understated luxury.
I’ve driven a normal xc60, was pretty decent if not a little bouncy. Love the aesthetic, but I don’t trust it to last and not add complications to my life with ownership of 10yrs. Plus the Chinese ownership, and at times manufacturing location, is a huge downside.
@@BarkandJack while a private company, such a thing doesn’t really exist in communism. I don’t support products made in communist countries or buy communist-based entities (with a larger than normal share of parts from such countries).
Yes it’s absolutely better than the lipstick wearing rav4 prime. Sorry, nx450h+ The xc60 is a proper luxury car. Top quality materials, more leather and wood, and just sheer elegance and class. 455hp sounds way better than 300hp for the same price
@@AAhmad3449 his comment isn’t helping. He’s just over promoting Toyota because he owns a Lexus NX350h I bet his mommy bought for him 😆. Unlike me where I worked hard to finance my car and insure it and register it entirely in MY name
Again my problem with EVs is the high prices. $75K. I am not impressed. Infotainment screen size is small. Lexus, Kia/Hyundai are way more luxurious. I think a Mitshubishi PHEV is a better buy for $50K and they are available. Just saying... Heck at this price point why not go to pure EV and get a Tesla?
European cars cost a lot of money and there is a robustness about the Volvo that isn't quite in the Kia/Hyundai. The Lexus is a great car too but it is different. It's more fluid and softer where the Volvo feels robust and has an underlined firmness. I don't think you need to spend north of $70K for it though. You can option out the Volvo for less. Also, I think Genesis does compete well with Volvo and Lexus. About the screen size, this is an almost 7-year old design. The new Volvo EX90 has a 14.5 inch screen. This has a 9-inch screen.
I had it on my short list and giving the smaller electric range, petrol tank smaller also and bumpy ride, I just preferred XC60. Nice design though on Mazda, but worth it?
@@KirkKreifels it has but I think chip shortage is in place here... in Europe, right now, we are facing chip shortage for BLIS system, blind spot assisance...
I have the top spec NX450h+ and what it lacks is a sound system on par with the rest of the car (you can't get the ML in the 450h+). And the dashboard is outdated, you can't even get a GPS map there. Besides that, it's great! :) I wouldn't get the Volvo (I have tried it) even if I'm Swedish. It too is a great car though.
Model Y doesn't come close to the refinement or build quality. Teslas are tech cars, not refined cars. So I don't think the Model Y is worth the money over a premium Volvo. But opinions vary on this.
If you have a cold winterin your location, Tesla's doors will not open until you melt ice from the windows and handles...so crappy designing for the northern countries. Polestar or Volvos are much better for this reason, no such problems. In warm climate Teslas are ok, except if it is raining....the rain will flow in to the trunk directly when opened, so poor desing again. And the feel in Tesla...not even near to the premium cars, for example at least in Model Y the center console is wobbling unlike in other more premium cars. So better to test carefully before you buy!
@@Henttari Think you need to reeducate your opinion, the water in the trunk issue was solved in 2019. The frozen door handles, admittedly a poor design but if you plug in and schedule a warm up then it's no problem. Alternatively, you can warm it up from your phone during breakfast, the energy you use warming it up you'll probably regain during your drive from a better km/kw ratio. Centre console doesn't wobble at all on mine. Before you ask, no, I'm not a Tesla fan boy, I've just ordered an XC60 T8 Ultimate but simply for the convenience while we shift to pure EV. Tesla have completely changed everyone's expectations of the whole ordering process, the idea of over the air updates etc. OK, the interior isn't premium but they've forced other manufacturers to change a lot of things and that can only be good. I'll be switching back to pure EVs in a few years when they add 1 or 200km of range.
Its Geely Volvo-please be specific. Also, the hood opens up high like a Beemer, Benz, Audi/VW because you would expect to have massive engine issues on these endless money pits
Note to reviewer do you homework! Volvo puts safety first so in a collision you don’t want an electric steering wheel in case you get pinned under the wheel a manual will allow you to move it out of the way.
I don't believe any Volvos have a motorized steering column. I've read that Volvo made that choice for safety reasons, in the event that the driver needs to be extricated after an accident.
We bought a 2021 xc 90 used with 9k for 71k in 2021. It had a 82k msrp sticker, very nice car, so we are going on our 3rd year ownership with 48k on it. We love the car, the best luxury car. I was thinking about a Mercedes but the treatment I got when I drove my old rav 2012 v6 to the dealership. I left and I paid cash for my Volvo. Recently I bought a xc 60e loaded, Love the radios in these cars and the air suspension. No issues or problems with the cars. Great deal 73 k price tag for 54500. You can find some great deals on these cars with a few miles.
We test drove a 2022 T8 XC60. Had 2000 miles on it . They were asking 59k. But ended buying a 2022 XC90 T6 Polestar with 12k miles. My wife likes the XC90 more. The XC90 has much more leg room in the back. It has a 78655 MSRP and we got it for 55K. I thought that was pretty good price. Plus it still has the free maintenance thru Oct. 2025 and b2b thru Oct. 2026.
The reason I didn't buy the NX or RX, is because in the UK to get the under-thigh-extending support you have to have an RX Takumi... and the Takumi comes with a sunroof (no option to not have the sunroof), and my head hit this sunroof...
.... so, what have I just bought? An XC60 T8 Recharge Ultimate..
Maybe you have more flexibility with what options you can get (or not) in North America - over here in the UK there are very few options as the XC60 T8 Recharge Ultimate pretty much comes fully loaded on a take-it-or-leave-it basis!
PS like your very clear Volvo reviews so much, I even showed one to my elderly mother (who I think is keen to try out Power mode...)!
Absolutely terrible for $75k for $55k - $60k I think it’s a good buy.
This one here is the top trim with all the options, even the $3200 bowers stereo. The base trim for the phev starts at 58k, so exactly where you said you wanted it to be.
bro volvo’s are luxury cars and considered sleeper luxury cars based on their safety and reliability.
@moistpimple - absolutely agree! I have an XC60 now and had an XC40 prior to this. I love them both!!
Hawaii gives a 15K cash back on any Hybrid / EV. So with that, we're right where you wanted the price to be 🤙
I feel like the cowcatcher grill on the NX and the RX is the Lexus attempt at bringing back the Edsel
My wife just could not get past it
So we got the XC 60 T8 recharge for that and so many other reasons
I thought the Recharge version have the wireless charging
I had an XC70 it was simultaneously the best and worst car I ever owned.
Having owned a Volvo and swearing to never get one again but longing for some aspects of it, I totally get this.
can you enlighten us as to why it was the "worst"? what made you love and hate it?
If the batteries are out of energy, does it just become front wheel drive as the rear axle is electric?
No. You still get plenty of assistance from the rear motor when battery is depleted
@@KirkKreifels Wrong. There is no drive shaft to the rear wheels. If the battery is depleted it is front wheel drive. I test drove one with 0% battery and I spun the front wheels accelerating from a stop light. No rear wheel assist.
@@jeffreylindley845 Akumulator nigdy nie wyczerpuję się do zera, tak samo jest w hybrydach Toyoty 😉
@@ukaszt.5506 😂
Massage seats and 60k price and prob would be slam dunk
The lack of the wireless charger is a current chip issue for the 23 model year. When that gets resolved, they will put it back in.
In Europe model 2023 do have a wireless charger. It was also in model 2022 in US. For some reason Volvo disabled it from US models.
Without wireless CarPlay I don’t see a reason for a wireless charger.
The thing I don't understand with these PHEVs is, why do they bother making the ICE so complicated. You would think the ICE would just be treated like it's a very simple backup to the electric power unit. I kind of think BMW got it mostly right with the i3 REX except for the fact that the petrol tank was too small. I know that 90% of my driving would be electric with a PHEV. I love the Volvo designs and I'd consider a full XC60 BEV if it wasn't so overpriced. XC40 recharge with the first package is 71k CAD here in Canada. That's a Model Y AWD..... hummmm
I agree. When the ICE acts purely as a generator, you no longer need VVT, ability for high revs or even turbos. A very simple but power dense ICE is the answer.
Did you own a REx?
That realization came to me during ownership:
24,000 annual miles on 25 gallons gas.
We'll see if Mazda's plans for the Wankel rex in their MX30 takes that approach.
@@donswier Good points from you both. The ICE is not a generator, it's a secondary engine that is called in when needed. (I think Mitsubishi may have done something different) And that is where simplicity should be a bonus. I really like(d) the Mazda CX-60 PHEV approach with a simple 4 cylinder naturally aspirated 2,5l ICE working with a decent electric motor. NO turbos or superchargers or whatever to worry about. Also liked their smart arrangement of having the motors inline with clutches so they both feed the gearbox so you always have 4x4. BUT Mazda do not seem to be able to build that complex line-up of components to be consistent. I returned mine after 3 and a half months and a few fix attempts because of a horrible resonance (I assume from the drive train) at 25 - 45 MPH. Lots of other folks with the same issue. Nice idea Mazda but you gotta build it to work. Sadly I think the 'simple' electric motor drives the rear and the ICE drives the front is simpler, albeit not as elegant
That's not a wireless charger for your keys. It's a key reader. Wireless phone charger was available in previous model but was removed in 2023.
Didn't talk about bowers and wilkins?
I mentioned that it's excellent.
The Lexus brand seems very reliable but was passengered in one and the gearbox and engine were so loud. Ride in the UK on our poor roads was also bumpy and noisy. The kit count was impressive however. I like Lexus and Volvo for their understated luxury.
Hi! is this the Thunder Grey color?
I’ve driven a normal xc60, was pretty decent if not a little bouncy. Love the aesthetic, but I don’t trust it to last and not add complications to my life with ownership of 10yrs. Plus the Chinese ownership, and at times manufacturing location, is a huge downside.
I would NEVER buy a Volvo these days ... too many gremlins.
lol you can't afford it anyways
@@engineerprototype9191 I can’t?
What’s wrong with Chinese ownership?
@@BarkandJack while a private company, such a thing doesn’t really exist in communism. I don’t support products made in communist countries or buy communist-based entities (with a larger than normal share of parts from such countries).
The Volvo every time
Copying Raitis Rides titles I see… copying Straight Pipes thumbnails I see… 😉
Nice car but $70k is painful to shovel out for it.
Yes it’s absolutely better than the lipstick wearing rav4 prime. Sorry, nx450h+
The xc60 is a proper luxury car. Top quality materials, more leather and wood, and just sheer elegance and class. 455hp sounds way better than 300hp for the same price
Naveen " still driving his moms machine" funny a minimum wager commenting on the " value " of a 75g car
@@mikej238 lmao 🤣
Your comment isn’t really helping.
This
@@AAhmad3449 his comment isn’t helping. He’s just over promoting Toyota because he owns a Lexus NX350h I bet his mommy bought for him 😆. Unlike me where I worked hard to finance my car and insure it and register it entirely in MY name
@@naveenthemachine you financed a car 😂
I paid cash for mine , just like my winter vacation home.
Again my problem with EVs is the high prices. $75K. I am not impressed. Infotainment screen size is small. Lexus, Kia/Hyundai are way more luxurious. I think a Mitshubishi PHEV is a better buy for $50K and they are available. Just saying... Heck at this price point why not go to pure EV and get a Tesla?
Lexus isn’t luxurious and kia hyundai are cheap looking this Volvo is classy
European cars cost a lot of money and there is a robustness about the Volvo that isn't quite in the Kia/Hyundai. The Lexus is a great car too but it is different. It's more fluid and softer where the Volvo feels robust and has an underlined firmness. I don't think you need to spend north of $70K for it though. You can option out the Volvo for less. Also, I think Genesis does compete well with Volvo and Lexus.
About the screen size, this is an almost 7-year old design. The new Volvo EX90 has a 14.5 inch screen. This has a 9-inch screen.
@@benjaminsmith2287 genesis beats anything Lexus. Genesis beats Volvo in some ways but they’re tied
@@naveenthemachine most genesis don’t even have their own dealers
@@AAhmad3449 he is paid by Genesis. You will find him, with stupid comments in several videos.
Why did he keep saying $75k as if the base model isn't $58k to start??
Lexus for reliability, Volvo for almost all the rest
Thanks, I'd rather have a Mazda CX-9 ... or the new CX-90
Can’t wait for cx90. But that’s a competitor to the xc90 not the xc60.
I had it on my short list and giving the smaller electric range, petrol tank smaller also and bumpy ride, I just preferred XC60. Nice design though on Mazda, but worth it?
75 grand? No power steering wheel?
Or wireless charger 🤷♂️
@@KirkKreifels it has but I think chip shortage is in place here... in Europe, right now, we are facing chip shortage for BLIS system, blind spot assisance...
You made a federal case out of the hood, for a really unknown reason. Just because?
Excellent Volvo 👍
Xc60 isn't equal to nx.. needs to be cross referenced with the RX.
Wouldn't the XC90 be more like an RX?
@@jleggy2010 no. Xc90 is bigger.
There is no RX PHEV in USA yet. Also rear legroom here isn't Rx class.
On paper they are similar, but Rx has more legroom in reality
@@KirkKreifels from what I heard by redline the RX only has 1 inch more rear legroom than the nx
its BETTER SUV than the Lexus NX 450h+ ?
Try to get a service appointment at Volvo….you will be waiting for months…. I like Volvo tho… but the service department is sketch…
I have the top spec NX450h+ and what it lacks is a sound system on par with the rest of the car (you can't get the ML in the 450h+). And the dashboard is outdated, you can't even get a GPS map there. Besides that, it's great! :)
I wouldn't get the Volvo (I have tried it) even if I'm Swedish. It too is a great car though.
That's a truck question, RIGHT??
Awesome
Ofc it’s better.. better looking faster better materials the nx has hard touch plastic on the bottom door panels and still give toyota vibes 🤷🏽♂️
Do you consider now Volvo as Asian being under Geely?
Would you consider Range Rover to be Indian or rolls Royce as German?
Not enough XC60 sold to make it a good vehicle to own.
No thanks . I'd take a Model Y for that kind of cash 💸 💰 🤑
Model Y doesn't come close to the refinement or build quality. Teslas are tech cars, not refined cars. So I don't think the Model Y is worth the money over a premium Volvo. But opinions vary on this.
If you have a cold winterin your location, Tesla's doors will not open until you melt ice from the windows and handles...so crappy designing for the northern countries. Polestar or Volvos are much better for this reason, no such problems. In warm climate Teslas are ok, except if it is raining....the rain will flow in to the trunk directly when opened, so poor desing again. And the feel in Tesla...not even near to the premium cars, for example at least in Model Y the center console is wobbling unlike in other more premium cars. So better to test carefully before you buy!
@@Henttari Think you need to reeducate your opinion, the water in the trunk issue was solved in 2019. The frozen door handles, admittedly a poor design but if you plug in and schedule a warm up then it's no problem. Alternatively, you can warm it up from your phone during breakfast, the energy you use warming it up you'll probably regain during your drive from a better km/kw ratio. Centre console doesn't wobble at all on mine. Before you ask, no, I'm not a Tesla fan boy, I've just ordered an XC60 T8 Ultimate but simply for the convenience while we shift to pure EV. Tesla have completely changed everyone's expectations of the whole ordering process, the idea of over the air updates etc. OK, the interior isn't premium but they've forced other manufacturers to change a lot of things and that can only be good. I'll be switching back to pure EVs in a few years when they add 1 or 200km of range.
Its Geely Volvo-please be specific. Also, the hood opens up high like a Beemer, Benz, Audi/VW because you would expect to have massive engine issues on these endless money pits
Opens like a Supra 😜
@@KirkKreifels which uses a BMW engine