very true. most of the cars in the lineup (those and trains are the only things i’m interested in from TLG nowadays) that are 18+ i would have loved when i was 12-14. i think this one almost takes some appreciation of modern engineering to fully enjoy the build.
The more I look into this set, it looks like what really happened is that Lego ran into some real engineering problems and materials limitations while designing this set. It's novel and impressive looking, but I can't help but wonder if the noticeable changes from the real thing are simply because they couldn't find a half-decent way to build this set and still have it be more or less "functional". They probably could have resolved the issue with more new parts... but that would turn this set into a sunk-cost monstrosity (for Lego). To point out an easy difference, the lack of counterweights on the back of crane's main body. I think this would have resulted in the body not balancing well on the central ring. It could have also become too heavy to turn around. Similarly, the tracks dancing around with the top spins means that the tracks are simply too light. Which means bigger tracks (perhaps even a double-track system)... and stronger/more motors to turn everything. Issues like these keep cropping up, and before long you find out the biggest limiting factor is that you're working with plastic and not steel. And I wouldn't be surprised if the crane model mentioned was the original intent for this set... and simply didn't work, resulting in a scaled back but still very functional version of a crawler crane. And for anyone who has been around cranes... seeing the tracks lift off the ground *AT ALL* is a terrifying sight. The guys running the excavators might have fun doing that, but you never see that with the cranes. Luckily, this is just Lego. To comment on the price? It's definitely too much, and I think the price is intentionally inflated to cover the bigger than anticipated design costs along and to offset the expected lower sales. While the price appears to be the biggest complaint, the other issues with the set would have inevitably come to light. I think Lego is expecting only the most dedicated and die-hard fans to get this one, and are bumping the price in an attempt to off-set the already incurred costs during the design phase. I think this is definitely not a "price per piece" issue so much as it ended up being a much bigger design cost. On the bright side, it's very likely that Lego learned quite a few lessons from designing this set, which will go to helping design future sets.
Would have been nice to see it they used metal wrapped in plastic counterweights instead, would have added more lifting capacity. Also could account for the much higher price as the counterweights won't get much use in other sets.
I think their legal department put their foot down. Cranes are very tricky and need very skilled operators assisted by loads of sensors not to tip over. I once built a big Lego crane with regular Lego Technic parts and started fooling around with ever heavier weights and counterweights. All fine and dandy right up to the point the load let go and my crane turned into a trebuchet. The hook came nowhere near my face but with less luck could have taken out an eye. Not something you want to sell nowadays.
Each crane has a lifting diagram (in the cabin also). If you check a real one, that might have incredible low lifting weight capacity in flat angles. If you make a linear calculation: 1) 1 dimension ratio to the weight; 2) rational weight difference (because it is made of plastic). Then you can get how much the lego version should lift in what angle
I am a crane driver and enthousiast myself. And I know a view things of the real crane. I know that it can lift 660 (metric)tons at a distance of 100 metres. So the real crane is quite a beast!
It has two hubs and some 3-4 motors. Also bigger stronger pieces, which I think may justify a slightly higher price, maybe 450 ish, there's the Liebherr name used, so that easily adds more value.
@@mathieuedde1465not the configuration but the superstructure, tracks and ballast are badly reproduced. The R9800 was very close to reality, it’s sad they didn’t manage to do as good.
definitely impressive to see. i'd like to see a "death match" against this and the Liebherr excavator and the rough terrain crane. would be one for the ages.
This crane is at my work right now. Like the real one 😂 it's mind boggling how massive it truly is irl. I'm 6'1. The top of my head is not even as tall as to the top of the front wheel. It's truly an amazing machine. The ballast weights are ridiculously huge.
This is an insanely good review. I've gotten so burnt out from the typical LEGO review style after over a decade of watching them on UA-cam, but your attention to detail and vast knowledge about what you're talking about is fantastic. Just subscribed, can't wait for future content
Life is too short for safety limits :D Thanks for the review. Without talking about the price, it's a very cool set. I wonder how low the hook can go, so you can lift up things from lower than the crane is placed.
Thanks for the partial review. - I would love to see more info about the new parts such as the new spools. - What's the maximum load you can lift when the arm is positioned as horizontal as possible. - Does the type (especially weight) of batteries used in the top battery box affect the crane's's ability to measure load.
This set gives me the same feeling I had when I saw my friend showed me his Lego city crane years ago. I thought it was huge and cool. This is crazier.
I don't know much about crane, but I was expecting the counterweights to be moved further back in order to compensate for heavy loads. At first, I thought that would be linked to the overload detector (either by a motor, or just geometry with a shaft pulling/pushing them away from the center of gravity. That could be a customisation theme for a MOC based on this model.
Great review as always! I wonder how it would fare with heavier counterweights. I know lego has to include them for the sake of it, but I can't help but feel like it would have been significantly cheaper and more effective if it was just left to the buyer. You'll probably touch on this in part 2!
have lego said what the weights are made of? have you compared with similar size of system bricks (dense as possible)? I'm also surprised about the superstructure rotation speed - don't the more recent motors allow for variable speed control?
@@RacingBrickbecause of the rough surface on the weights it made me think of your adventures in 3D printing. Would you be able to 3D print heavier weights to increase lifting capacity?
I find it crazy… the price is a problem but the set itself is aswell… I guess at some price I would overlook everything and buy it but that wouldn’t change the fact that the set itself is absolutely trash.
@NiklasOjas I like this set, but I feel like a $500 price is warranted. $700 is insane, I'd rather buy the other leibherr excavator for $800 (the retired one) . And even then, I'm paying the retired price, but it's at least somewhat justified vs. this abomination.
The high resistance of the motor at 2:55 is actually a really good idea-in the bucket wheel excavator, the motors needed fresh batteries to have enough torque to even drive the whole system.
Brilliant review Balazs! 🥳 Yes, the first thing that came to mind when seeing the set was that the counterweight would not be enough. I would imagine if there was another counterweight far back on the ground (akin to the 'real' LR13000) then the lifting capacity would be improved. (Although structural stress and bending will have to be factored in.) 🤔
in Australia this set is around $1000 and the box is very heavy and i seen it on the top shelf which could be dangerous is a staff member will not be able to get it down
Lol, the beginning of your video was funny with the crane tipping over and the old guy tipping over. Awesome start, just that alone would get people to start watching. Love your videos and I'm looking forward to building this set, I pre-ordered when it was up for Pre-order on the USA Lego website. As you said, it does turn a little too fast, the Rough Terrain Crane was better about turning at a slower realistic speed.
Yall commenting, “not the same crane” it is, the lr 13000 comes in diff varieties, lego just did a poor job of sourcing the correct imagine for the crane. And if you dont believe me, THIS EXACT MODEL is on the liebherr page for this conventional crane. Just search lr 13000 jib configuration
However the lack of hanging weights on the rear is not accurate and would completely fix the weight issue. In real life it has about triple the counter weights. Also the boom should be about 8 feet taller to match scaling😅
as seen so far: had way more building and "playing" fun with the 42082 for about a quarter of the price - but wouldn't be the first time your final review would change my mind 🤠
Maybe if I can buy a couple more tower pieces for cheap. Still doesn't look like that much for $700, if buying that much lego I'd go for millennium falcon
Would be interesting to see someone increase the counterweight and the top boom length. Would make it look much more like the real crane. I wonder how well it would hold up?
you incorrectly estimated the load capacity of the crane, you need to put the boom completely up and the goose, too, this will give you the opportunity to lift the load directly under you and show the maximum load capacity
Re the rotation speed of the superstructure. The speed varies depending on how far left and right you slide the "lever" from the centre point. If you want it to move more slowly, just dont slide the lever as far.
Building from a set is okay, building from your own design deserves a Video! I am currently building a F1 Car and all from my brain, no set or instructions.
I enjoy the box being that shape. It's tall. Which is the main feature of the model too. Yea it's a dang nice model of a real workhorse. But dang it's tall.
This set is Awesome !!! Now can you take this set to the next level? Please max out the boom length and the counterweights to see how massive this set can be. 😲😎
if i could recomend a custom build lego set it would be the 11200 leibherr ltm crane by jeroen ottens design. it costed me $400 for all the parts and the instructions, took me around 3 months to build, and it could reach up to 6 ft into the air! it is an incredible crane and i would love to see you build it!
I have just assembled these models and I think that I should release a kit for sale to improve the length of the two feathers, increase the counterweights and improve the strength of the motors. lego would have to add for that price some accessory like a container or something similar to be able to use it with the crane.
It's functioning just like an actual crane would behave. Of course you can't pick out of chart at that radius. Also, the button that let's you override the safety features is also present in real cranes, "turning the keys."
The price is insane even for lego. Don’t tell me that licence for Liebherr is more expensive that ones for Lamborghini, Ferrari or Bugatti. And those sets was about €350. And now, crane with 2800+ pcs for 750-800 euros? WTF? There is something rotten in Billund, Denmark..
There is only one mainboom, the other one is the superliftboom ore backboom. There are missing two stapels of ballast at the end of the superstrucesure, one on every site ( left and right) The counterweight on the model is de superliftballast. And one the carbody between the tracks is also missing ballast, the centralballast. And iff i look at the pictures the dimensions of boomsections are to small (wide and heigt) What are your thoughts about this Greetings from Holland Rob !!
How hard is it really to control this mechanism Plus lego should make a real technic forklift truck being the same scale as this lr model plus with motor and app
Wonder why they went with a sand blue gear rack sleeve for the weight sensor mechanism. Yellow or DBG would’ve worked much better here. Maybe to clear the excess stock after that ninjago set a few years ago?
The Liebherr have many configuration and the set represent one. Also the counterweight is not heavy enough, I'm curious how it would perform with a custom one.
The whole point of the counter weight assembly is to balance out the load. So it would be of no use if the counterweight stayed resting on the ground supports all the time. Of course shifting the angle of the super structure inlcudes bending stress on LEGO beams and connections, but that seems to be intentional given the boundaries that the system allows.
@@RacingBrick My way of saying it was somehow misleading. Of course the weight can counteract the tilting of the structure even without being lifted off the ground, but as long as it´s resting on the ground it´s hard to tell how much counter weight is actually needed. Think of a set of old-school scales where you can use your finger to lift the counter weight, which doesn´t make it useless, but undermines the idea of balancing out the scales.
@@klausM54 well, I guess the job of the good folks at LEGO was to test properly how much counterweight would be needed for the crane to be able to lift the amount they wanted it to, and set the limits in the app accordingly. I think the limits are simply too high, and they allow movements for the crane that look way "unnatural". The other option could have been to add more weight, but that of course would have increased the price even more.
@@RacingBrick Probably wright. They are doing their best given the length of the beams. On the other hand it´s a nice demonstration of how these loads and forces have to be calculated for LEGO and real machinery as well.
You will be surprised how much the real cranes will bend. Of course not with the tracks off the ground like that, but the boom deflection itself during erecting is insane. I've helped erecting Liebherr LG1550-LG1750 and LR1600 LR1750 in real life on windmill projects. And did lifts with the LG1550 and LR1600. The moment the boom gets pulled from the ground is critical for the crane in so many ways. In some long boom configurations it can't even do it with all the ballast on the hook. The tip of the boom is already 6m high in the air while the middle is still laying flat on the ground. There are also configs where the superlift tray needs to be as heavy as possible just to get the boom itself of the ground. After it is raised the tray has to be made lighter (by ~150 tons!) Just to be able to operate it. Otherwise the tray would be too heavy and sitting on the ground all the time preventing you to slew left or right. The LR13000 is on another level. A really impressive machine.
A fantastic review, thank you. Your content is always thorough, accurate and enjoyable. A little English feedback, if I may. "Winding" is pronounced as "wine-ding" (English, eh! 😅)😊
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700 I gotta pay 1050 😢
@@alexwarren5447depends on which country currency he uses
This set feels like one of the few times where the 18+ age rating is truly justified.
Yes.
The 18+ rating means minimum age to afford it 😂
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@@1403gavinwas about to comment this lol
very true. most of the cars in the lineup (those and trains are the only things i’m interested in from TLG nowadays) that are 18+ i would have loved when i was 12-14. i think this one almost takes some appreciation of modern engineering to fully enjoy the build.
The more I look into this set, it looks like what really happened is that Lego ran into some real engineering problems and materials limitations while designing this set. It's novel and impressive looking, but I can't help but wonder if the noticeable changes from the real thing are simply because they couldn't find a half-decent way to build this set and still have it be more or less "functional". They probably could have resolved the issue with more new parts... but that would turn this set into a sunk-cost monstrosity (for Lego).
To point out an easy difference, the lack of counterweights on the back of crane's main body. I think this would have resulted in the body not balancing well on the central ring. It could have also become too heavy to turn around. Similarly, the tracks dancing around with the top spins means that the tracks are simply too light. Which means bigger tracks (perhaps even a double-track system)... and stronger/more motors to turn everything. Issues like these keep cropping up, and before long you find out the biggest limiting factor is that you're working with plastic and not steel.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the crane model mentioned was the original intent for this set... and simply didn't work, resulting in a scaled back but still very functional version of a crawler crane.
And for anyone who has been around cranes... seeing the tracks lift off the ground *AT ALL* is a terrifying sight.
The guys running the excavators might have fun doing that, but you never see that with the cranes. Luckily, this is just Lego.
To comment on the price? It's definitely too much, and I think the price is intentionally inflated to cover the bigger than anticipated design costs along and to offset the expected lower sales. While the price appears to be the biggest complaint, the other issues with the set would have inevitably come to light. I think Lego is expecting only the most dedicated and die-hard fans to get this one, and are bumping the price in an attempt to off-set the already incurred costs during the design phase. I think this is definitely not a "price per piece" issue so much as it ended up being a much bigger design cost.
On the bright side, it's very likely that Lego learned quite a few lessons from designing this set, which will go to helping design future sets.
Would of been better off making the lr1600
Dont the counterweights extend out? Like the real thing when you add more load or extend the beam out farther?
Would have been nice to see it they used metal wrapped in plastic counterweights instead, would have added more lifting capacity. Also could account for the much higher price as the counterweights won't get much use in other sets.
I very much agree in your assessment 👍🏻🇩🇰
I think their legal department put their foot down. Cranes are very tricky and need very skilled operators assisted by loads of sensors not to tip over. I once built a big Lego crane with regular Lego Technic parts and started fooling around with ever heavier weights and counterweights. All fine and dandy right up to the point the load let go and my crane turned into a trebuchet. The hook came nowhere near my face but with less luck could have taken out an eye. Not something you want to sell nowadays.
Each crane has a lifting diagram (in the cabin also). If you check a real one, that might have incredible low lifting weight capacity in flat angles. If you make a linear calculation: 1) 1 dimension ratio to the weight; 2) rational weight difference (because it is made of plastic). Then you can get how much the lego version should lift in what angle
I am a crane driver and enthousiast myself. And I know a view things of the real crane. I know that it can lift 660 (metric)tons at a distance of 100 metres.
So the real crane is quite a beast!
@@musictolive4 can you search the lifting diagram of the crane config in question? I'm lazy.
Liebherr has the load charts in pdf for free on their site.
Thanks a lot for unraveling this mysterious technic set. Finally it is here and can’t wait for the next episode.
It would be ok for 300Euros, but the price is insane, and model doesn't really represent the Liebherr LR 13000. Great review, as always!
It has two hubs and some 3-4 motors. Also bigger stronger pieces, which I think may justify a slightly higher price, maybe 450 ish, there's the Liebherr name used, so that easily adds more value.
Actually if you look into it a bit, this configuration is actually used irl, it’s just rare
@@mathieuedde1465not the configuration but the superstructure, tracks and ballast are badly reproduced. The R9800 was very close to reality, it’s sad they didn’t manage to do as good.
@@romix8340 im no expert when it comes to the level of replications, but i'll take your word
@@nivethofficial well people thought cat was expensive but now it looks like a better deal....
definitely impressive to see.
i'd like to see a "death match" against this and the Liebherr excavator and the rough terrain crane. would be one for the ages.
This crane is at my work right now. Like the real one 😂 it's mind boggling how massive it truly is irl. I'm 6'1. The top of my head is not even as tall as to the top of the front wheel. It's truly an amazing machine. The ballast weights are ridiculously huge.
This is an insanely good review. I've gotten so burnt out from the typical LEGO review style after over a decade of watching them on UA-cam, but your attention to detail and vast knowledge about what you're talking about is fantastic. Just subscribed, can't wait for future content
Life is too short for safety limits :D
Thanks for the review. Without talking about the price, it's a very cool set.
I wonder how low the hook can go, so you can lift up things from lower than the crane is placed.
Yet it's much shorter without them.
@@EviGL beat me to it! :D
@@EviGLwe’re here for a good time not for a long time
"Life is too short for safety limits."
You sound like Stockton Rush. 😀 😛
Thanks for the partial review.
- I would love to see more info about the new parts such as the new spools.
- What's the maximum load you can lift when the arm is positioned as horizontal as possible.
- Does the type (especially weight) of batteries used in the top battery box affect the crane's's ability to measure load.
This is the building review, I bet he’ll do a very thorough walk through on the functional perspective.
Great way to start my morning here in America. Been waiting for this vid all week! Fantastic review and def a set I look forward to saving up for :)
I saw this set today my LEGO shop in the mall. Its a great looking set. Technic is Amazing
This set gives me the same feeling I had when I saw my friend showed me his Lego city crane years ago. I thought it was huge and cool. This is crazier.
I don't know much about crane, but I was expecting the counterweights to be moved further back in order to compensate for heavy loads. At first, I thought that would be linked to the overload detector (either by a motor, or just geometry with a shaft pulling/pushing them away from the center of gravity.
That could be a customisation theme for a MOC based on this model.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Great review as always! I wonder how it would fare with heavier counterweights. I know lego has to include them for the sake of it, but I can't help but feel like it would have been significantly cheaper and more effective if it was just left to the buyer. You'll probably touch on this in part 2!
As a crane operator omin real life i HAVE to get this set as it fills me with joy😍
Over 500€ with discount, No thanks
It's a functional crane made of Lego, what did you expect?
@@thespacementv1506If I spent 700 dollars on that, it should be 3x bigger that it already is.
@@thespacementv1506the made out of Lego makes the prize.
@@ATypiclaNPCI do not care if it’s over 700$ I’m buying it bc I have 83 Lego sets
Lego moment
have lego said what the weights are made of? have you compared with similar size of system bricks (dense as possible)? I'm also surprised about the superstructure rotation speed - don't the more recent motors allow for variable speed control?
They didn't say anything, they look like solid plastic. Motor speed could be easily lower, it totally depends on the app
@@RacingBrickbecause of the rough surface on the weights it made me think of your adventures in 3D printing. Would you be able to 3D print heavier weights to increase lifting capacity?
@@Gzilla313 it's certainly possible
The weights are ABS...moulded ABS that's it.
Price is simply outrageous. Lego is definitely charging way too much for this. Thanks for the review.
I find it crazy… the price is a problem but the set itself is aswell… I guess at some price I would overlook everything and buy it but that wouldn’t change the fact that the set itself is absolutely trash.
Thats not a review, it's an ad. Quite pointless, they pay him cheap money and he makes a whole ad for them in reward
True! Which is why Lego has become the largest toy company in the world surpassing Hasbro, Mattel, & Bandai ..... and profits.
@NiklasOjas I like this set, but I feel like a $500 price is warranted. $700 is insane, I'd rather buy the other leibherr excavator for $800 (the retired one) . And even then, I'm paying the retired price, but it's at least somewhat justified vs. this abomination.
It's a crazy insane price, but I still want it lol!!
Incredibly cool this set!!!😊
2:28 there is a stupid mistake in the instructions, all measurements in imperial tons, should actually say metric tons.
The high resistance of the motor at 2:55 is actually a really good idea-in the bucket wheel excavator, the motors needed fresh batteries to have enough torque to even drive the whole system.
Brilliant review Balazs! 🥳
Yes, the first thing that came to mind when seeing the set was that the counterweight would not be enough. I would imagine if there was another counterweight far back on the ground (akin to the 'real' LR13000) then the lifting capacity would be improved. (Although structural stress and bending will have to be factored in.) 🤔
yeah, it needs a derrick ballast, without it it looks like a lr1500 or something.
in Australia this set is around $1000 and the box is very heavy and i seen it on the top shelf which could be dangerous is a staff member will not be able to get it down
I would love to see it compared with older lego cranes (42082, 42042, 42009, 8421) maybe in another separate video.
I can't promise all of them, but about 75% of the list ;)
I wasn't even considering this before, but I suddenly want it now!
Lol, the beginning of your video was funny with the crane tipping over and the old guy tipping over. Awesome start, just that alone would get people to start watching. Love your videos and I'm looking forward to building this set, I pre-ordered when it was up for Pre-order on the USA Lego website. As you said, it does turn a little too fast, the Rough Terrain Crane was better about turning at a slower realistic speed.
When will you make the video about the 42160 audi rs q e-tron mods?
When I won't review other huge sets, but proper mods will take more time for sure
Yall commenting, “not the same crane” it is, the lr 13000 comes in diff varieties, lego just did a poor job of sourcing the correct imagine for the crane. And if you dont believe me, THIS EXACT MODEL is on the liebherr page for this conventional crane. Just search lr 13000 jib configuration
However the lack of hanging weights on the rear is not accurate and would completely fix the weight issue. In real life it has about triple the counter weights. Also the boom should be about 8 feet taller to match scaling😅
as seen so far: had way more building and "playing" fun with the 42082 for about a quarter of the price - but wouldn't be the first time your final review would change my mind 🤠
NICE! thanks for the cool video
Thank you, as usually - amazing job!
It's finally here! Let's goooo
Maybe if I can buy a couple more tower pieces for cheap. Still doesn't look like that much for $700, if buying that much lego I'd go for millennium falcon
Would be interesting to see someone increase the counterweight and the top boom length. Would make it look much more like the real crane. I wonder how well it would hold up?
A few extra pieces and you could extend the counterweights back farther from the cab, which would help with balancing the heavier weights.
woah what a behemoth. I think I would have to leave my room and live somewhere else to accomodate that beast xD
Am glad that they at least numbered their bags, unlike some other technic sets
Wow! What a big monster you have there!! 😀😀
You're a really bad influence! I just bought the 42146 Crane, 42156 9X8 and 10317 Land Rover! Can't wait till next weekend 😆❤️
I wish lego would do a tower crane in technic
you incorrectly estimated the load capacity of the crane, you need to put the boom completely up and the goose, too, this will give you the opportunity to lift the load directly under you and show the maximum load capacity
I didn't estimate anything, I simply showed the amount of load and the position when the alert kicks in
How does the load sensing work? Does the hub have a tilt/compas sensor built in and then it measures the angle it sits at to estimate the load?
Exactly, the hub has a tilt sensor
IF you know how to sand cast you can use the weights to make some iron of aluminum ones
This video appeared 5 times on my home page so I decided to give it a view
For comparison, check out the Mould King Liebherr LR13000. It has all the right proportions and is actually affordable.
I am curious to know more about the load measurement system
Awesome review! Keep up the great content. Thanks!
Re the rotation speed of the superstructure. The speed varies depending on how far left and right you slide the "lever" from the centre point. If you want it to move more slowly, just dont slide the lever as far.
Hi, do you have instructions or a set of bricks for the container you used as weights? Thanks a lot.
It is from the Technic Mack truck set
Building from a set is okay, building from your own design deserves a Video!
I am currently building a F1 Car and all from my brain, no set or instructions.
Yeah that’s how real cranes work. The greater the radius of the lift, the less it can lift without becoming unstable
Nice Review, just want to ask if it's possible to add more Truss to increase the height like 42042, i hope you will try that next time, tnx
I want to see how it behaves with more counterweight!
Agreed
Can the pieces for the boom be bought separate? The included pieces isn’t enough to build a realistic boom
I enjoy the box being that shape. It's tall. Which is the main feature of the model too. Yea it's a dang nice model of a real workhorse. But dang it's tall.
This set is Awesome !!! Now can you take this set to the next level? Please max out the boom length and the counterweights to see how massive this set can be. 😲😎
Boom parts are not available yet separately. Counterweight increase is in the next video, stay tuned ;)
Will I buy this? No. Did I watch the entire video? Yes.
I'm waiting for mine which i've preordered and will definitely try to make some extension upgrade to make it look more like a real one :D
if i could recomend a custom build lego set it would be the 11200 leibherr ltm crane by jeroen ottens design. it costed me $400 for all the parts and the instructions, took me around 3 months to build, and it could reach up to 6 ft into the air! it is an incredible crane and i would love to see you build it!
I just built this set and now i understand why he said cable management is the hard part 😅, because it is, i messed it up twice
I hope Lego never gets rid of their plastic bags they're so useful
Try to put more weight on the back of the crane and see how much load really the motors can withstand, and the overhaul crane assembly.
What set is that "container" from. I'd love to get the parts and have it part of my display with this!! Early on in the build now.
@jasonm9336 The Lego Technic Mack Anthem 42078
I have just assembled these models and I think that I should release a kit for sale to improve the length of the two feathers, increase the counterweights and improve the strength of the motors. lego would have to add for that price some accessory like a container or something similar to be able to use it with the crane.
I still haven’t got a control plus set due to fear it will no longer work once the app will eventually be discontinued
It's a beautiful looking piece.
Love it!
Try adding more counter weights on it
Can you show us if the boom and fly jib can go completely down?
I think the age rating is for how small the parts are and how easily it is to accidentally swallow them.
That doesn't make much sense over the age of 3-4, I don't think a 12 year old swallow more parts than a 16 year old :)
@@RacingBrick Ah I see. :)
It's functioning just like an actual crane would behave. Of course you can't pick out of chart at that radius.
Also, the button that let's you override the safety features is also present in real cranes, "turning the keys."
Very nice, thank you for this video 🙂
Oh wow, they have the core parts of Technic and include the Lego Spike parts
The price is insane even for lego. Don’t tell me that licence for Liebherr is more expensive that ones for Lamborghini, Ferrari or Bugatti. And those sets was about €350. And now, crane with 2800+ pcs for 750-800 euros? WTF? There is something rotten in Billund, Denmark..
Can you please increase the counterweights and see how much stress the motors can take???
There is only one mainboom, the other one is the superliftboom ore backboom.
There are missing two stapels of ballast at the end of the superstrucesure, one on every site ( left and right)
The counterweight on the model is de superliftballast.
And one the carbody between the tracks is also missing ballast, the centralballast.
And iff i look at the pictures the dimensions of boomsections are to small (wide and heigt)
What are your thoughts about this
Greetings from Holland Rob !!
6:27 how did you get it to be so tight mines loose
I want this so badly now after seeing it built
Very helpful review!
I would like to see you attach a weight to the end and then spin the crane around 360° like it's swinging a wrecking ball
How hard is it really to control this mechanism
Plus lego should make a real technic forklift truck being the same scale as this lr model plus with motor and app
I am not a big fan of this set. But I am sure that people gonna love it! Compared with the Eiffel Tower, this one will do probably do better.
I would rather have the Eiffel Tower, at least that looks like the real thing.
try doing the same weight tests but without counterweights to check how much they do
Wonder why they went with a sand blue gear rack sleeve for the weight sensor mechanism. Yellow or DBG would’ve worked much better here. Maybe to clear the excess stock after that ninjago set a few years ago?
this is cool but where did you buy these?
Great review as always
Looking at the back I get the feeling that we are suppose to ass our own counter weights in the "boxes" at the back of the crane
can you build a sky scrapper with it?
The Liebherr have many configuration and the set represent one.
Also the counterweight is not heavy enough, I'm curious how it would perform with a custom one.
So impressive and nice!
The whole point of the counter weight assembly is to balance out the load. So it would be of no use if the counterweight stayed resting on the ground supports all the time. Of course shifting the angle of the super structure inlcudes bending stress on LEGO beams and connections, but that seems to be intentional given the boundaries that the system allows.
So you say the weight has no use if it is not lifted from the ground? :)
@@RacingBrick My way of saying it was somehow misleading. Of course the weight can counteract the tilting of the structure even without being lifted off the ground, but as long as it´s resting on the ground it´s hard to tell how much counter weight is actually needed. Think of a set of old-school scales where you can use your finger to lift the counter weight, which doesn´t make it useless, but undermines the idea of balancing out the scales.
@@klausM54 well, I guess the job of the good folks at LEGO was to test properly how much counterweight would be needed for the crane to be able to lift the amount they wanted it to, and set the limits in the app accordingly. I think the limits are simply too high, and they allow movements for the crane that look way "unnatural". The other option could have been to add more weight, but that of course would have increased the price even more.
@@RacingBrick Probably wright. They are doing their best given the length of the beams. On the other hand it´s a nice demonstration of how these loads and forces have to be calculated for LEGO and real machinery as well.
You will be surprised how much the real cranes will bend. Of course not with the tracks off the ground like that, but the boom deflection itself during erecting is insane.
I've helped erecting Liebherr LG1550-LG1750 and LR1600 LR1750 in real life on windmill projects. And did lifts with the LG1550 and LR1600. The moment the boom gets pulled from the ground is critical for the crane in so many ways. In some long boom configurations it can't even do it with all the ballast on the hook. The tip of the boom is already 6m high in the air while the middle is still laying flat on the ground. There are also configs where the superlift tray needs to be as heavy as possible just to get the boom itself of the ground. After it is raised the tray has to be made lighter (by ~150 tons!) Just to be able to operate it. Otherwise the tray would be too heavy and sitting on the ground all the time preventing you to slew left or right.
The LR13000 is on another level. A really impressive machine.
you should have weight them all at the same time and just divide by count to get a better average weight
So, if you wanna use the motors for something else is it actually possible or do they only work in this configuration?
Looking forward to part 2. Question: why all the different colors? Red, grey, should be yellow imho. What are your thoughts about this?
Add some counterweights even if it's not lego to see how well it operates. This is a really cool set.
finally, lego motors dont cry if they have to lift more than spoon
A fantastic review, thank you. Your content is always thorough, accurate and enjoyable. A little English feedback, if I may. "Winding" is pronounced as "wine-ding" (English, eh! 😅)😊
Very cool, but 700 bucks😢
Please test the true lifting capacity by adding counterweights as needed!